Audemars Piguet Just Copied Grand Seiko...

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  • @hotsung
    @hotsung ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The little quip at 4:24 where Michael subtly questions if Christian knows what cockfight is and Christian answering 'what?' is the great comedic timing we all love from this duo

  • @brownmcpherson5724
    @brownmcpherson5724 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Reminds me of my gold Patek Nautilus 3700 I sold in 2005 for $15,000 and pleased that I'd made a couple thousand after wearing it for 14 years. Now over $200k.

    • @ronp4737
      @ronp4737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True.....

    • @whatsup4616
      @whatsup4616 ปีที่แล้ว

      Long live the hype (not)

    • @whatsup4616
      @whatsup4616 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t like tourbillons, just don’t like the look of a gaping hole in the dial. I’d much rather have an grande sonnerie

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That was back when it was priced @ what’s it’s really worth.

  • @croco1968
    @croco1968 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember very well the AP tourbillon you had, a special Japan edition with a black dial :) Great watch!

  • @jmso786
    @jmso786 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those AP dials are Canal St Grand Seiko dials

  • @samuelburton5576
    @samuelburton5576 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Micheal continually shocked by what comes out of Christian's mouth. 😂

  • @evano8312
    @evano8312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael do you know there is a thickness difference from the 2018 and 2021 zenith chromomaster OG??

  • @rudebeats907
    @rudebeats907 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What happened to the podcast?

  • @theonewson1987
    @theonewson1987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely AP however imo there’s a lot going on - the dial, the bezel, the tourb, it looks better when the dial is simple and the tourb really pops

  • @masterwatch
    @masterwatch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    and of course you have the success of the Casio G-Shock Casioak and now the new kits you can buy for modding. I think taking design inspiration from other designs is fine as long as it is not just a straight forward copy.

    • @dado380
      @dado380 ปีที่แล้ว

      Casio history are full of hommage ,they started as Seiko hommage brand basically,irony is that Casio Royale which they sold a shit ton is just a blatant copy of iconic G757!!

  • @johnscholl6719
    @johnscholl6719 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Y’all are my morning drive to work

  • @kgrohmusic
    @kgrohmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only in Westfield, where I think you said you live, will you find a snobby Postman. 🤣I grew up in Linden.

  • @Adskie
    @Adskie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Missing the podcast fellas 🙌🏼

  • @MDchaz
    @MDchaz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LVMH owns Tiffany & Co. LVMH is going to have a huge watch presence in the future.

  • @thadpasquale
    @thadpasquale ปีที่แล้ว

    This dial isn't new. It was first used on the Millenary line a couple years back I believe.

  • @dimman77
    @dimman77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A UPS clerk with a 6-figure AP Tourbillon? Hmmm...

  • @nathanthebe6497
    @nathanthebe6497 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The intro aged so well

  • @TheRacerRich
    @TheRacerRich ปีที่แล้ว

    I always think of Tag as a mall watch.

  • @DogMadTwenty
    @DogMadTwenty ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I could listen to you guys talk about nothing and be entertained. Always look forward to your videos

  • @theopulentlife889
    @theopulentlife889 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you guys sure that the AP tourb was being worn by the clerk or was it the owner maybe?

    • @frankpentangeli7945
      @frankpentangeli7945 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's exactly what I was thinking ... there is ZERO chance a guy working at UPS owns an AP Tourbillon. That was clearly a fake. And are there UPS store "owners"? They're just offices with managers, aren't they? In any event, unless it was another customer I seriously doubt the legitimacy of that AP Christian saw in the UPS office.

    • @theopulentlife889
      @theopulentlife889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frankpentangeli7945 I agree its way out of league, I'd like to visit that UPS 🤣 perhaps he's upgraded to a Patek 😂

    • @frankpentangeli7945
      @frankpentangeli7945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theopulentlife889 LOL! He probably wears the AP on one wrist and the Patek on the other.

  • @tom_simons
    @tom_simons ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty sure $70K is the median household income in the United States... pretty wild that the typical LV customer is the dead-ass average person in the US. Not throwing shade at all, but I'd be curious to see if this is totally accurate.

  • @toegunn4905
    @toegunn4905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Daniel Roth revived Breguet, and then came out of the park swinging to take down his own creation.

  • @ericjav3183
    @ericjav3183 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Are they still called AP, or do we just say Royal Oak Watch Company

  • @QualityTimeWatches
    @QualityTimeWatches ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My boys!!! Giveaway time!?😎⌚️✌️

  • @StephenMorganCanada
    @StephenMorganCanada ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate how we all call it Tag and forget the heritage of Heuer.

  • @dimman77
    @dimman77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Problem number one with Zenith is that their designers seem to have a great looking watch 90% finished then screw it up in the last 10% of their work. There's always some little "off" thing that screws what could have been a great design.
    I think part of the design problem with Zenith is that they relied too much on the Elite and El Primero movements. And when those used subdials (El Primero usually as a Chrono, Elite often with 9h sub seconds) in their design they are WAY too close to the center and on anything bigger than 36mm look incredibly pinched together. If the style cycle swings back to very small watches for men Zenith is well positioned there if they hire a new design team (or whichever manager is "tweaking" it right before production).

  • @richardolmos6908
    @richardolmos6908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hidden tourbillon is cool.. hidden chrono is next level!

  • @francisng341
    @francisng341 ปีที่แล้ว

    cartier tank must quartz or solar? i cant make up my mind...

  • @bradmaytum5309
    @bradmaytum5309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Unimatic (LE with Massena Lab) that I bought ~2 yrs ago and have NEVER worn it. In fact I was thinking about selling it recently. Based on Christian's comments maybe I'll put it on the wrist and try it out for a bit.

    • @dukes70
      @dukes70 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually like Unimatic a lot. I have several. Which one is it? They’ve done several with Massena Lab.

  • @carlosmaldonado6200
    @carlosmaldonado6200 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is my favorite Seiko dial.

  • @canadianwatchmonkey3992
    @canadianwatchmonkey3992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does LVMH still owen EBEL?

  • @kartelkilla
    @kartelkilla ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How in the world does anyone at UPS have a Royal Oak Tourb?

    • @nicolew1316
      @nicolew1316 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The UPS stores are separate from actual UPS employees. They are franchised and the guy may own the store

    • @FernandoRodriguez-fj5pj
      @FernandoRodriguez-fj5pj ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's a racist question. Black people can own APs

    • @cleansingserum
      @cleansingserum ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FernandoRodriguez-fj5pj 😂

    • @johnmonachelli5256
      @johnmonachelli5256 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'd imagine he simply opened the package and helped himself

    • @steelsteez6118
      @steelsteez6118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnmonachelli5256 🤣

  • @dBsdecibels
    @dBsdecibels ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still pretty new to the watch world, and Breguet is probably my favorite brand. Their guichet and enamel dials are incredible. I wasn't aware of Daniel Roth, but now I am, thank you! They have a similar artistry. Don't know that I'll ever afford one, but I will appreciate them from afar!
    My mom doesn't do the watch thing. Probably for the best too, because she's a little badass. She has a black belt, scuba dives, chops wood, goes hunting, all in a petite 5',

    • @diavalus
      @diavalus ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re new into the watch world but already know of Breguet, then you had a good start. There is a female (the one living in the UK) with a channel here on youtube which had no idea about Breguet till recently.

  • @SteveFWatches
    @SteveFWatches ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LFG finally huckberry sponsors!

  • @JibyJab
    @JibyJab ปีที่แล้ว

    don't forget that lvmh owns tiffany and co, meaning they sell patek as well

  • @lindboknifeandtool
    @lindboknifeandtool ปีที่แล้ว

    Artichokes are hairy and spiky. Inspect one when on mushrooms, it’s not fun. And it’s a flower bud too.

  • @VersedNJ
    @VersedNJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Better watch, Oyster's and vegan oysters will get a cease and desist order and trademark violation from Rolex.

  • @staceygram5555
    @staceygram5555 ปีที่แล้ว

    True. The vegan didn't 'murder' the oyster. Technically, it was manslaugter.

  • @gniffub
    @gniffub ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I paid like 60, 70 thousand, like he is buying a pair of sneakers. 😂

  • @johnmonachelli5256
    @johnmonachelli5256 ปีที่แล้ว

    Laurent ferrier is up the bracket

  • @cohan.forcer
    @cohan.forcer ปีที่แล้ว

    What. a. duo.

  • @RobertKusicki
    @RobertKusicki ปีที่แล้ว

    The vegan tangent 😂😂☠️

  • @gelmibson883
    @gelmibson883 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woo!

  • @karan956
    @karan956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In which universe are oysters vegan?

  • @tenettttt
    @tenettttt ปีที่แล้ว

    you know. right? totally.

  • @TheExpirimented
    @TheExpirimented ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone explain how an oyster is vegan?

  • @constantinbalzer9831
    @constantinbalzer9831 ปีที่แล้ว

    AP did these kind of dials already on their "millenary philosophiques" four or five years ago, so saying that they copied GS is misleading...

  • @michaeladams9744
    @michaeladams9744 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oysters are not vegan... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @sylvainbougie7269
    @sylvainbougie7269 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mansplaining to his Mom, is that a first?

  • @structurescience
    @structurescience ปีที่แล้ว

    My mom's lovely.

  • @gyrfalcon7332
    @gyrfalcon7332 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m paraphrasing here: So you say to guy, hey nice watch. He says thanks, you like AP? You say, yeah I had one those but got rid of it. Sooo who let their manhood swing first? Cmon Christian, that’s such a I’m so cool that I got rid of the watch you’re super proud of maneuver, even if you didn’t mean it. We’ve all had someone do that, whether it be in person or on social media. Doesn’t feel great, but I’m a thin skinned baby man that super really cares about what others think. 😬

  • @Jabingla2810
    @Jabingla2810 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see Kenickie from Grease has joined the chat

  • @jayoungrn
    @jayoungrn ปีที่แล้ว

    if they had a spring drive they would not need the tourbillon

  • @mrcom4359
    @mrcom4359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tag Heuer is the working man's Rolex. I hope that isn't too offensive to people that think that Rolex is the working man's Rolex. I've been surprised to find that Tag has a Relex-esque notoriety among the blue collar professionals that I know.

    • @WestCoastAce27
      @WestCoastAce27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought Tudor was the working man’s Rolex? 🤣 (or at least for procrastinators like me who thought about buying an R 10+ yrs ago, put it off).

    • @mrcom4359
      @mrcom4359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WestCoastAce27 haha honestly, though the watch community isn't like this at all, and probably most of the world isn't like this, but in my boondocks part of the world I've never met anybody in person who has heard of Tudor.

  • @TheSwaggamumma
    @TheSwaggamumma ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you wearing a Unimatic, Christian?

  • @TheSpritz0
    @TheSpritz0 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate it SO MUCH that I LOVE it!!!!

  • @408stuff
    @408stuff ปีที่แล้ว

    oysters are not vegan

  • @JoeyJiggles
    @JoeyJiggles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AP are the clowns of the industry

  • @papricep6248
    @papricep6248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dials on those new APs are total garbage because they're stamped, not hand carved like GS does.

    • @wheremycoffee
      @wheremycoffee ปีที่แล้ว +4

      contrary to what you said.. GS dials are stamped and not hand carved

    • @RobbyWheelerGuitar
      @RobbyWheelerGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah GS dials are also stamped. They hand engrave the master template then stamp each watch dial.

    • @samuelburton5576
      @samuelburton5576 ปีที่แล้ว

      AP is second to noone in the watch world. Period

    • @VersedNJ
      @VersedNJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samuelburton5576 Second to A.Lange. Tied with Patek.

  • @blackwood3243
    @blackwood3243 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish Grand Seiko would stop coming out with watches so quickly, the way they are doing it really cheapens the brand to me.

    • @herbtube7824
      @herbtube7824 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could that brand be any cheaper?

  • @WestCoastAce27
    @WestCoastAce27 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clickbait title but otherwise solid video.
    Tourbillion is a rather useless complication.

  • @DW94576
    @DW94576 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a joke and also a preference, not misogyny.

  • @Mthusiast4life
    @Mthusiast4life ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think while the dial is Grand Seiko-ish, the rest really ain't. We also need to bear with the poor manufacturers, as every year they got to bring up something new and it started to really become an super tricky task to deliver everytime. Sometimes our guys go the slippery route ( not saying any names ) but yo 50mm in diameter is very ambitious😅

  • @awdturbopowah773
    @awdturbopowah773 ปีที่แล้ว

    TIL: Oysters are vegan 😂😂

  • @Rosscotron
    @Rosscotron ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you block the swearing out? Who cares

  • @thepiemaster0933
    @thepiemaster0933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $5000 profit isn’t enough? No disrespect but that’s a lot of money

    • @hibernopithecus7500
      @hibernopithecus7500 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not just not enough. Not just a waste of money. But a *complete* waste of money.
      He seemed sincere, but he must have been joking, right?
      Right?

    • @thepiemaster0933
      @thepiemaster0933 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope so 😮

  • @stevelangsdorf7307
    @stevelangsdorf7307 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christian, I'll try to be as polite as possible....... STOP TOUCHING YOUR NOSE 🤧. Thank you.

  • @itoldunot2fuckwithme
    @itoldunot2fuckwithme ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been sayin it for almost ten years now. Not a matter of IF but a matter of WHEN GS is the one everyone else will have to follow. All my seven GS watches goes "Show me the money!!"

  • @gyang333
    @gyang333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael, it sounds like you may have trypophobia?

  • @dimman77
    @dimman77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus Christ, you can't compare Roth to Dufour...

  • @itoldunot2fuckwithme
    @itoldunot2fuckwithme ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone who considers themselves a genuine watch lover knows that the AP tourbillons are some are the most fragile creations in the business. It will spend at least half the time of your ownership being shipped back and forth from Le Brassus.

  • @theoneandonly7213
    @theoneandonly7213 ปีที่แล้ว

    225 dollars for a bloody apron. You Americans are crazy LOL! Or maybe you just have a lot of cash or maybe I don't belong to this channel's audience lol

  • @300IQPUG
    @300IQPUG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    christians gf tells him not to worry about yung mikey. but he should be very worried

  • @EP-yi3gy
    @EP-yi3gy ปีที่แล้ว

    Calling the AP "Audemars Piguet Tourbillon Grand Seiko"
    A person in Japan and Switzerland are watching Theo and Harris at the same time. The Grand Seiko dial designer starts laughing at the same time the AP dial designer threw up in his mouth.
    Hilarious.
    Grand Seiko owns that dial design language.

  • @samuelburton5576
    @samuelburton5576 ปีที่แล้ว

    LVMH is just clout chasing, trying to rival the Rolex and PP led Geneva watch show. Yawn for the thirst!

  • @BrittPearceWatches
    @BrittPearceWatches ปีที่แล้ว +20

    artichokes are just gross!

    • @johnswick7108
      @johnswick7108 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wrong! Lol

    • @AnaInTh3Sky
      @AnaInTh3Sky ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cancelled

    • @joshuakaplan5726
      @joshuakaplan5726 ปีที่แล้ว

      You've never had Jerusalem style then...

    • @andrewhennessy9789
      @andrewhennessy9789 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, but why can they be good (in moderation) on pizza?

    • @AnaInTh3Sky
      @AnaInTh3Sky ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mybrainlikesthings Capricciosa will always be my #1... 😄

  • @m.e.p.r
    @m.e.p.r ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First

  • @telanos2492
    @telanos2492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys. Your podcast cries out for attention!

  • @My6216
    @My6216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see two gay men into the watch world. Keep it up boys.

  • @samuelburton5576
    @samuelburton5576 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really Michael and Christian? AP VS GS???? really? Really? AP doesn't have to copy anyone! They are worlds above the brand known as GS.

    • @MrPolowu
      @MrPolowu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂
      Sure, man. Sure
      😂😂😂

    • @iliasanastasiadis7658
      @iliasanastasiadis7658 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, with their one watch design and unreliable movements. 🤦‍♂️

  • @kevinklino3193
    @kevinklino3193 ปีที่แล้ว

    Between the wrist movement and gurgling between these two, this channel isn’t for me