I have to say if these firearms belong to you you have a very nice collection and looking at how well maintained if you ever create another channel it should be on firearms
@@lockpickinglawyer I'm not even the biggest gun guy on earth but I have to say you have a great collection would love to see a video of your gun collection as well as your lock collection one day again I don't know the first thing about luck nowhere lock-picking but I really enjoy your videos you have a very calming vibe to you which I really enjoy not to mention if I ever get into lock picking I'll be glad I spent so much time watching your videos to chill out. Are those cheap Chinese transparent locks and lock pick sets a good value for beginners? Because I would not mind giving it a try and I could acquire one of those off of dhgate for not much money if they are worth giving it a go I'm going to give it a try because your videos got me interested
Thank you so much! I just started lockpicking as a hobby and just received a bag of old locks from ebay to practice on. One of them was this very lock. I watched your video and in the time you took to explain about, pick twice I was able to pick my own lock as well. Best thing is, this is the first non acrylic practice lock I have tried and you talked me thru it. Thanks!
2:40 It also keeps the slide and frame together, if it only locked on the frame or vice versa anyone could still strip it for parts. Same goes for rifles.
I came across your channel a few years ago. I've always had a fascination with locks, and your videos fanned that flame. I bought a cheap and simple lockpicking kit that fits in my wallet. Not too long ago my dad needed to open a padlock, and thought I had the key (I'd given it back to him months before). My first attempt was to shim it with an old soda can. No go. I couldn't get the piece of aluminum in the gap at the shackle. So I pulled out my lock picks. Using the raking method (he was in a hurry) I got it after a few attempts. Thank you LPL!
As someone who owns a handful of these locks, I've always known that the best use for them would be to just put them into a tube sock to use as a mace...
With good quality springs, you can leave your slide locked open till the day you die and it will not harm the operation of the gun by any significant amount.
@@BadWolf507 Don't underestimate 10 year olds. They are just small, not dumb. If one already interedted in picking, it will pick it. But apparently the ones that have any skill at 10 are probably smart enough already to not kill anyone by accident.
A cold chisel and 3 Lb. sledge will sever that cable in about 3 seconds. I know this because a trusted friend lost his key to the lock and asked if I could cut the cable for him. The actual cable is thin (maybe 1/16" dia.) but is covered by hardened articulating segments and that plastic cover. The chisel apparently spread the segments apart enough to allow the chisel to easily cut the thin cable.
I just came across two locks similar to this one. Since the keys were M.I.A., and my brother was deceased, my solution was to use my small bolt cutters to cut through the cable. The cable was a joke to cut.
pins 3 & 4 already at shear line? That's a major failure of design. On another note, what's the purpose of the aluminum tape over what I presume is the serial?
Haha funny enough I was looking at one this morning with my buddies and went “I’ll bet you could pick that with paper clips” that being said we have no idea what we are doing my father is the lock Smith I have no idea what I’m doing when it comes to that shit so even with picks we had no luck but oh well (the lock wouldn’t open with the key afterward and needed hit with a hammer before functioning again so idk if that’s our reason for failure or if our attempts caused it to quit working but doesn’t really matter now)
I was home alone house sitting a large property in the countryside last night,.... heard some noises in the back yard and the neighbor's dog kept barking. I'm pretty sure someone was on the property. I was relieved to find that this worked!!! Much appreciated!!!! My interest in lockpicking has been fully renewed! Thanks for sharing
When he said the gun was completely disabled all I heard was chief wiggum "yeah I had sell the barrel and most of the handle to feed my family...I can throw this pretty hard!"
Maybe more of a display case at a pawn shop lock. Where you can let the customer hold the gun but not actuate anything. At least if they run with it, there's a bright blue thing on it.
I was surprised to see that Cabelas has shot guns on display that the public can just walk up and touch just sitting on the display racks. They only use trigger locks that look just a cheap is this.
These gun lock videos are insane because you'll be going over the stupidest security flaws and then pull out the most gorgeous firearm possible to test it on
Aunt lost her key to one of these and it apparently had the same key. Used the short hook from the Genesis set and I didn't even have time to work the tool all the way in before it just... opened. Maybe it saw your video and got scared! Thank you!!!
These cable locks are there only to present the illusion of security. Apart from the obvious one-second bolt/wire cutter attack, most can be opened by jiggling a wave rake for a few seconds, no separate tension tool needed.
One of the common misconceptions the people have about the locks and other security measures is that “it won’t hold against the prepared intruder”. However, while it is true, it does not mean you may just go on without the locks altogether. If the intruder is not motivated to break that particular lock, it gets an extra chance of them deciding it is not worth the effort. If the intruder is determined and decisively makes their move, even a bad lock or whatnot gives you some more time to call for help.
I guess those are used for securing a gun from being used quickly or to keep them safe from kids. After all, anyone can pull a trigger but not everyone is even a novice picker. I think that is still a lot better than an unlocked loaded gun anyone can grab or steal. In my country you are required to lock guns up securely (that must prevent from it being stolen while locked). If you have multiple firearms, you are required a standardized gun safe that is not an easy pick nor easy to open by force and usually needs to be fixed to the house to prevent the safe from being carried away.
Here we are required to use EN14450 S1 standard approved gun safes (or better) if you have multiple firearms. Standard EN 14450 regulates test methods for safes and strongboxes. A distinction is made between security levels S 1 and S 2. where S2 is slighly better The security requirements of this standard are lower than those of EN 1143-1, but higher than the requirements of VDMA 24992. The locks used for the ones I've seen seem to be lever locks like in cheaper safes. I've yet to t find details of the standard about picking resistance. (I guess that is the most interesting detail being on this channel. Sorry to dissapoint everyone) For mechanical protection it is required to be able to take quite a bit of abuse but the standard requires only protection from common hand tools like crowbars, chisels, drilling etc. Double walled door with 1/2" hinges and several side bolts seems very typical. Typical 5-6 rifle size cabinet might weight from 80 to 130 kg. I guess the weak point is the walls that are probably "easily" cut by tools like torches or plasma cutters. Typical wall thickness is perhaps something like 5 mm or so. With any hydraulic tools I could also see how those could be opened easily. They are to protect only from the common with burgler that has hand tools, lots of elbow grease and some determination unlike "real safes".
I've never used any of the many gun locks i have on a gun. Been a complete newb with picking the one i have but the small size gave trouble. I will have give it another look after watching this.
I guess you have some sort of gun safe for your fire arms. If you do have a safe do you still use these locks for extra protection when they are inside the safe.
It wouldn't be for "extra" protection per se; but rather a legal requirement. Even if guns are locked up, often local laws require that they still have some sort of lock on them. Practically speaking. If someone were to get into the safe. They wouldn't be able to use the firearm until they got the lock off. But once they're in the safe, they can just steal the firearm and worry about the lock later. Ultimately it would all depend on the intruder's intentions and the scenario they find themselves in. A theft wants a quick grab and run. Someone who intends to do harm, would come prepared.
Not sure if you read comments on old videos - I bought a P320 recently and their lock has changed slightly on the keyway. I believe it to be the same manufacturer - just a black covering instead.
I have a Sig Saur, same blue lock. From the key, seems I'd only have to pick one pin! The other three are cut deep. Anyway when we lost the key to my wife's 9mm case, my son just set it on the ground and shot the cable with his 45. Zero skill attack.
This is a pretty standard gun lock. I have several that were shipped with Glock, Smith & Wesson, Mossberg, and Rock Island Armory. I'm sure many other companies use locks like this for compliance reasons.
What do you use to lock your guns up it would be cool to see what you do so people can have an idea of good gun storage and proper edict. I also love to see how other people do it so I can improve the way I secure mine.
honestly these locks are just included not for security but just to comply with Safe Storage laws. Safe storage laws don't require your locks to be effective, just that your guns are locked to begin with.
I have picked S&W, Kriss, H&K, FNH, and Springfield with a paperclip no tension wrench. These locks i do not think were intended to be secure. Though 100% more secure than nothing.
I have two guns, they gave me one of these each one. It's not a good lock, in fact im surprised the second one even took that long to pick, but it's not meant to be an anti-pick lock. It's just a very basic safety tool more than anything else, preventing little kids from accidentally firing it since the slide cant close, for example.
Hey I like the videos And I also like your gun collection It looks like you keep them very well maintained And that's nice of you to actually comment back to people that comment on your videos
Thanks and thanks. As for comments, if you take the time to write me, it's only courteous to return the favor. That said, I'm reaching the point where this is unsustainable. Hundreds of comments a day is tricky to keep up with.
certainly in a situation this will slow the criminal down they won't have time to pick the lock, but if they steal the gun then getting the lock off isn't difficult.
There's a dump somewhere in Louisiana that's full of these kinds of locks from me... Every time I buy a gun the first 2 things that get thrown in the trash is these locks and the brushes they ship with them as well... LOL If you want to keep someone from using your gun when they ain't supposed to buy a safe if you don't want to buy a safe teach them about guns so they don't play with them!!!
At least it wasn't the wave rake...Hope Sig sees this and goes for an upgrade. And that none of the ban groups start accusing LPL of teaching children how to beat safety measures...court of public opinion passes quick sentence.
@LockPickingLawyer I have a question: I have 2 of these same locks although possibly newer versions because mine have a drill plate covering the entire bottom of the lock, with a recessed core. The drill plate also has a shaped opening that seems to intend to allow for the inserted key to rotate, only in the appropriate direction, and anything larger to be blocked from turning. Nevertheless I have managed to open both locks a few times but not consistently. I don't have any reason to believe there are security pins, but there is a weird oddity that both locks have that I would like your thoughts on. The oddity is that the cores are not stable. There are a few degrees of rotation allowed without the key in. Interestingly, if the core is rotated those few degrees off 12 o'clock, the pins seize and the key cannot be inserted. The result is that under tension, thr core is turned those few degrees and all of the pins are incredibly stiff, so much so they deformed my pick. The only time the pins are appropriately springy and moveable is when the core is at 12 o'clock, which it cannot be while under tension. Somehow I was (as I said) able to pick both locks anyway a few times, but I heavily damaged my pick and do cannot repeat my success at will. I've watched a LOT of your videos (great work btw) but haven't seen anything addressing this specific issue. It's similar to a false set, only it occurs by default even without any pins set. Sorry for the long question but I had to try providing as much detail without any visual aids. I hope I succeeded, and you can offer some insight. Thanks in advance.
NO JOKE! He said a novice could pick this, and I have one that came with one of my SIGs. I decided to try picking it. I couldn't manage with paper clips, so I decided to just stick a pen's clip (Like, to clip it onto your pocket) basically a thin strip of metal down the keyway and jiggle. IT OPENED! I PICKED IT WITH A SHANK! I HAVE NEVER PICKED A LOCK BEFORE!(Well, I shimmed a lockbox once....) This lock is hilariously vulnerable to picking!
AWESOME REVIEW L.P.L. MOST HAND GUNS CAN BE BROKE DOWN IN A MATTER OF SECONDS AND REASSEMBLE IN MATTER SECONDS LAST THING I WOULD DO IS ADD A LOCK MY OPINION ONLY .IT TAKES LONGER TO GET A KEY AND OPEN A LOCK.OR STORE THE BOLT SEPARATED .I KNOW SOME REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE IT LOCK WITH CABLE..THANKS FOR SHOWING. 😎😎😎😎😎
I remember hearing somewhere that the main reason why so many handguns come with these included and why they are given out for free on military bases to personnel is actually for suicide prevention. Having another step in the way of you picking up the gun and shooting yourself helps to decrease the chance you will actually do it. Granted it’s also another step between you picking up the gun and using it in self defense but ah well. One of the other major purposes for these locks is to prevent someone like your own child who might manage to find your gun from being able to hurt themselves with it. Small children aren’t typically good at picking locks. A gun safe would be better but if you are just an average Joe who owns a single handgun for home defense you might think it’s not worth the money to buy one when the gun you bought probably came with one of these. Tl;dr These locks don’t have to be great because they are primarily for childproofing and suicide prevention. They don’t replace a gun safe, they are a “it’s better than nothing” measure usually included with your handgun purchase.
I'm a total noob with no skill. I bought a lot of 6 different gun safety locks off eBay for practice. Beretta, Ruger, Savage, Marlin, etc. "brands." One was a model CL-885, very similar to this. Within 30 minutes of receiving them today I had picked them all. The only challenge was the tiny keyways on some of the 30mm locks and being able to tension them.
I don't think that lock is to prevent thieves but instead kids. I believe the reason firearms are shipped with the lock is because a kid was killed and the family lobied to have locks come with guns. It may not stop a thief but stopping a 4 year is important too
I'm sure these locks are shipped with the guns as part of the youth handgun act or whatever that paper that comes with them is. It's not high security but it's so you have zero excuse to let a kid access a most kids will not be a lock picking lawyer, nor will they have immediate access or knowledge of basic wire cutters. It's a low security detergent for the curious and opporutunistic.
I have a couple of that style lock for my glock and my Smith. They are good for young child protection, which is my main focus as I have 2 under six. I will not trust the trigger well locks even with an empty firearm, heard too many stories of accidental discharges with that type "protection."
Sig Sauer may not be the company that made the lock, but if they're distributing the lock with their firearms, then they are indicating their support for it and their belief that it is of sufficient quality.
Try thrift stores to pick up locks cheaply that people have donated sans keys. I saw a bunch of these in a Goodwill, but have seen other bike locks, padlocks & door locks, too.
Hi Harry, I have an approved gun safe at home containing a double barrel shot gun and two rifles. Under Australian law, the gun safe must be bolted down if it weighs under 150 kgs ( 330lbs ). Above that weight it can be free standing. There should be a separate lockable container for ammo. within the safe. Unless you belong to a pistol club etc., hand guns are prohibited. My question is, regardless of the quality of the gun locks, when would they be used, or required to be used? Is it a situation with kids at home, gun under the pillow, lock it? Carrying hand guns in a vehicle, lock it? Where would there be a requirement to actually lock the action but still have quick access? Just curious .... Regards, Brian.
I shudder to think of the nasty security that a safe expert like you employs! As for these gun locks, they are certainly not quick access devices. Personally, I don't see a use for them, but I honestly think that they are intended to be used in lieu of a security container. That's scary.
I think your ideas are on the mark. In the US how you are required to secure a firearm is almost always a matter of state law. Some states require any firearm in a home where there is a minor be locked when stored. Some states require firearms to be unloaded and inaccessible during transportation; on a motorcycle there could be no other option than locking it.
The gun shop sold me an sig sauer gun with a gun lock. I also bought a pelican case for my handgun. Thankfully I placed the gun lock on the case first… turned out they gave me the wrong key 😅 I didn’t have time to go back so now I’m just trying to pick the gun lock or cut it off.
Re: the anti-drill plate... I would guess it's there simply because the company uses the same core for many applications and the plate is part of the general components set. Especially with it being actually attached to the core. Question: Is your baseline idea of a novice picker "Barely any practice but at least has proper picks" or "Idiot putzing around with a screwdriver and a bent paperclip or hairpin"?
nothing that even a novice picker would have any trouble opening at all **me** sitting here trying to pick my exact same lock model from the same firearm for the last hour unsuccessfully so that was a lie
Soooo... I noticed he's having the same kind of trouble with these locks as I have: the keys are hard to remove! My key is stuck in my lock, which would make it totally impossible to use.
![[464] LPL Project: The Best Gun Lock Ever?](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oImZsAI1L0Q/mqdefault.jpg)
![[464] LPL Project: The Best Gun Lock Ever?](/img/tr.png)
He buys a gun so he can continue testing the locks given with them. “Hey babe, I need to buy this gun so I can test this lock!” 😉
And then it's a business expense!
Lmao 🤣 I can honestly hear someone else say that to there “babe” 😅
Genius
Any reason to buy a gun is a good reason.
LPL is a based 2a supporter confirmed
The drill protection is probably to cover up the fact that it's basically a small two pin lock!
Don'z Lockz is the plate part California storage laws?
LOL.
Definitely not a CA thing. I have similar locks that are CA approved without the plate.
I have to say if these firearms belong to you you have a very nice collection and looking at how well maintained if you ever create another channel it should be on firearms
They are mine, and thank you.
@@lockpickinglawyer 69 (nice).
ThatGuy67 70 likes now BITCH
The GlockPickingLawyer.
@@lockpickinglawyer I'm not even the biggest gun guy on earth but I have to say you have a great collection would love to see a video of your gun collection as well as your lock collection one day again I don't know the first thing about luck nowhere lock-picking but I really enjoy your videos you have a very calming vibe to you which I really enjoy not to mention if I ever get into lock picking I'll be glad I spent so much time watching your videos to chill out.
Are those cheap Chinese transparent locks and lock pick sets a good value for beginners? Because I would not mind giving it a try and I could acquire one of those off of dhgate for not much money if they are worth giving it a go I'm going to give it a try because your videos got me interested
Thank you so much! I just started lockpicking as a hobby and just received a bag of old locks from ebay to practice on. One of them was this very lock. I watched your video and in the time you took to explain about, pick twice I was able to pick my own lock as well. Best thing is, this is the first non acrylic practice lock I have tried and you talked me thru it. Thanks!
It may be a two-pin lock, but it works better than other gun locks.
*At least the gun can't fire and there's SOME picking involved.*
2:40 It also keeps the slide and frame together, if it only locked on the frame or vice versa anyone could still strip it for parts. Same goes for rifles.
I love that this guy owns guns. Hes like "Ill show you how to pick virtually any lock! Also I have guns, so don't try to break into my home."
He knows no lock is unpickable, but he has yet to test the bulletproofness of human
He famously tested the bulletproofing of his own body by allowing BosnianBill to put a bullet in his leg .
I came across your channel a few years ago. I've always had a fascination with locks, and your videos fanned that flame. I bought a cheap and simple lockpicking kit that fits in my wallet. Not too long ago my dad needed to open a padlock, and thought I had the key (I'd given it back to him months before). My first attempt was to shim it with an old soda can. No go. I couldn't get the piece of aluminum in the gap at the shackle. So I pulled out my lock picks. Using the raking method (he was in a hurry) I got it after a few attempts. Thank you LPL!
If lost key a angle grinder works good.
As someone who owns a handful of these locks, I've always known that the best use for them would be to just put them into a tube sock to use as a mace...
Hilarious 😂😂😂
I would prefer not to store a gun with an open bolt for a longer period of time.
With quality springs, it shouldn't matter, but FWIW, I agree.
With good quality springs, you can leave your slide locked open till the day you die and it will not harm the operation of the gun by any significant amount.
@@randomlyentertaining8287 I'd prefer to keep the environment outside of the inner workings, to be honest.
What are some better locks designed for these guns that won't put wear on the springs and action? Maybe just a simple trigger lock?
Springs wear out from compressing and decompressing, not remaining compressed.
Oh my word... is there no good lock from any of these manufacturers???
None that I've found thus far... we will see as I have more inbound.
dont worry your 10yrs old kid wont be able picked a lock
@@BadWolf507 Don't underestimate 10 year olds. They are just small, not dumb. If one already interedted in picking, it will pick it. But apparently the ones that have any skill at 10 are probably smart enough already to not kill anyone by accident.
I use this to keep my mom from taking my electronics
A cold chisel and 3 Lb. sledge will sever that cable in about 3 seconds. I know this because a trusted friend lost his key to the lock and asked if I could cut the cable for him. The actual cable is thin (maybe 1/16" dia.) but is covered by hardened articulating segments and that plastic cover. The chisel apparently spread the segments apart enough to allow the chisel to easily cut the thin cable.
Wow, surprised that lock didn't just spring open out of fear from just touching the Sig :D
Well, it was pretty close to doing exactly that!
I just came across two locks similar to this one. Since the keys were M.I.A., and my brother was deceased, my solution was to use my small bolt cutters to cut through the cable. The cable was a joke to cut.
I use these gun locks on the side Gates to my back yard and small shed because I have a bunch of them and they give a really good illusion of security
pins 3 & 4 already at shear line? That's a major failure of design.
On another note, what's the purpose of the aluminum tape over what I presume is the serial?
The tape is to cover the SN's for purposes of the video.
To cover the proof that the gun is stolen.
To hide the fact that lpl is secretly a gangster and his guns don't have serial numbers
I have a lock similar to this one at home and I picked it with paper clips
Haha funny enough I was looking at one this morning with my buddies and went “I’ll bet you could pick that with paper clips” that being said we have no idea what we are doing my father is the lock Smith I have no idea what I’m doing when it comes to that shit so even with picks we had no luck but oh well (the lock wouldn’t open with the key afterward and needed hit with a hammer before functioning again so idk if that’s our reason for failure or if our attempts caused it to quit working but doesn’t really matter now)
I was home alone house sitting a large property in the countryside last night,.... heard some noises in the back yard and the neighbor's dog kept barking. I'm pretty sure someone was on the property. I was relieved to find that this worked!!! Much appreciated!!!! My interest in lockpicking has been fully renewed! Thanks for sharing
Lol, I have a pile of those. They often come with brand new guns.
When he said the gun was completely disabled all I heard was chief wiggum "yeah I had sell the barrel and most of the handle to feed my family...I can throw this pretty hard!"
This deserves so many more likes.
Maybe more of a display case at a pawn shop lock. Where you can let the customer hold the gun but not actuate anything. At least if they run with it, there's a bright blue thing on it.
It's very rare that I see locks in use at guns shops.
I was surprised to see that Cabelas has shot guns on display that the public can just walk up and touch just sitting on the display racks. They only use trigger locks that look just a cheap is this.
These gun lock videos are insane because you'll be going over the stupidest security flaws and then pull out the most gorgeous firearm possible to test it on
Just realized my Springfield XDS came with the same lock, just is black with XD in white on the lock body. A new lock for me to have fun with 😉
Aunt lost her key to one of these and it apparently had the same key. Used the short hook from the Genesis set and I didn't even have time to work the tool all the way in before it just... opened. Maybe it saw your video and got scared! Thank you!!!
I learned 2 things today. 1. I do not have the patience to pick locks. And 2. A pair of garden shears can easily wreck this lock
These cable locks are there only to present the illusion of security. Apart from the obvious one-second bolt/wire cutter attack, most can be opened by jiggling a wave rake for a few seconds, no separate tension tool needed.
One of the common misconceptions the people have about the locks and other security measures is that “it won’t hold against the prepared intruder”.
However, while it is true, it does not mean you may just go on without the locks altogether.
If the intruder is not motivated to break that particular lock, it gets an extra chance of them deciding it is not worth the effort.
If the intruder is determined and decisively makes their move, even a bad lock or whatnot gives you some more time to call for help.
I guess those are used for securing a gun from being used quickly or to keep them safe from kids. After all, anyone can pull a trigger but not everyone is even a novice picker. I think that is still a lot better than an unlocked loaded gun anyone can grab or steal.
In my country you are required to lock guns up securely (that must prevent from it being stolen while locked). If you have multiple firearms, you are required a standardized gun safe that is not an easy pick nor easy to open by force and usually needs to be fixed to the house to prevent the safe from being carried away.
Where? Can you send a link to this "standardized gun safe." I'm curious. Thanks.
Here we are required to use EN14450 S1 standard approved gun safes (or better) if you have multiple firearms.
Standard EN 14450 regulates test methods for safes and strongboxes. A distinction is made between security levels S 1 and S 2. where S2 is slighly better The security requirements of this standard are lower than those of EN 1143-1, but higher than the requirements of VDMA 24992.
The locks used for the ones I've seen seem to be lever locks like in cheaper safes. I've yet to t find details of the standard about picking resistance. (I guess that is the most interesting detail being on this channel. Sorry to dissapoint everyone)
For mechanical protection it is required to be able to take quite a bit of abuse but the standard requires only protection from common hand tools like crowbars, chisels, drilling etc. Double walled door with 1/2" hinges and several side bolts seems very typical. Typical 5-6 rifle size cabinet might weight from 80 to 130 kg. I guess the weak point is the walls that are probably "easily" cut by tools like torches or plasma cutters. Typical wall thickness is perhaps something like 5 mm or so. With any hydraulic tools I could also see how those could be opened easily. They are to protect only from the common with burgler that has hand tools, lots of elbow grease and some determination unlike "real safes".
hoggif thanks.
*I have one these, came with my P226 MK-25D. I use to to secure a trail camera...*
I've never used any of the many gun locks i have on a gun. Been a complete newb with picking the one i have but the small size gave trouble. I will have give it another look after watching this.
I guess you have some sort of gun safe for your fire arms. If you do have a safe do you still use these locks for extra protection when they are inside the safe.
It wouldn't be for "extra" protection per se; but rather a legal requirement. Even if guns are locked up, often local laws require that they still have some sort of lock on them.
Practically speaking. If someone were to get into the safe. They wouldn't be able to use the firearm until they got the lock off. But once they're in the safe, they can just steal the firearm and worry about the lock later. Ultimately it would all depend on the intruder's intentions and the scenario they find themselves in.
A theft wants a quick grab and run.
Someone who intends to do harm, would come prepared.
I do have a safe -- actually a few. I am not going to discuss my exact security arrangements... but they are adequate in my mind.
@@lockpickinglawyer Adequate in your mind must be Fort Knox levels of security to us mere mortals.
Not sure if you read comments on old videos - I bought a P320 recently and their lock has changed slightly on the keyway. I believe it to be the same manufacturer - just a black covering instead.
I got one of these with my SP2022 and I can't get the lock to open even with the key.
I'm liking this series.
Thanks -- more to come.
These type locks are usually only for show to take a gun to a gun range or in a gun shop or pawn shop. It just shows safe gun!
I have a Sig Saur, same blue lock. From the key, seems I'd only have to pick one pin! The other three are cut deep.
Anyway when we lost the key to my wife's 9mm case, my son just set it on the ground and shot the cable with his 45. Zero skill attack.
Did he drop the .45 to shoot it? We all know about the drop test success of the 9mm p320.
@@beowulf9878 They fixed the p320 in 2016 so chances are it would not matter. This is because most are post 2016.
@@NativeAmericanPatriot it was just a joke.
This is a pretty standard gun lock. I have several that were shipped with Glock, Smith & Wesson, Mossberg, and Rock Island Armory. I'm sure many other companies use locks like this for compliance reasons.
I've picked all of my cable locks with a mere 2 paperclips and a multi-tool
Sounds about right. This is the first lock I've ever picked and I used a broken pen cap and a paper clip😂
What do you use to lock your guns up it would be cool to see what you do so people can have an idea of good gun storage and proper edict. I also love to see how other people do it so I can improve the way I secure mine.
Sorry, but as I mentioned to you in the comments of a different video, I will not talk about my personal security arrangements...
Completely understood is there am way you can show locks that you do recommend for higher security of firearm storage and variabilities of such locks
Great Video & Picking LPL Lovely Sig, Very Cool. Keep up the great work. Nick.
+Nicholas Aarons Thanks.
I just bought a P226 Nitron a few weeks ago and it is soooo nice.
When the introduction takes 6x as long as the pick.
Great job picking as always brother, thanks for the review!
honestly these locks are just included not for security but just to comply with Safe Storage laws. Safe storage laws don't require your locks to be effective, just that your guns are locked to begin with.
I have picked S&W, Kriss, H&K, FNH, and Springfield with a paperclip no tension wrench. These locks i do not think were intended to be secure. Though 100% more secure than nothing.
I have two guns, they gave me one of these each one. It's not a good lock, in fact im surprised the second one even took that long to pick, but it's not meant to be an anti-pick lock. It's just a very basic safety tool more than anything else, preventing little kids from accidentally firing it since the slide cant close, for example.
Hey
I like the videos
And I also like your gun collection
It looks like you keep them very well maintained
And that's nice of you to actually comment back to people that comment on your videos
Thanks and thanks. As for comments, if you take the time to write me, it's only courteous to return the favor. That said, I'm reaching the point where this is unsustainable. Hundreds of comments a day is tricky to keep up with.
certainly in a situation this will slow the criminal down they won't have time to pick the lock, but if they steal the gun then getting the lock off isn't difficult.
There's a dump somewhere in Louisiana that's full of these kinds of locks from me... Every time I buy a gun the first 2 things that get thrown in the trash is these locks and the brushes they ship with them as well... LOL If you want to keep someone from using your gun when they ain't supposed to buy a safe if you don't want to buy a safe teach them about guns so they don't play with them!!!
Where do you live that requires gun locks like this? Va does not give these out with firearms
Enjoying your content sir. Hi from the uk!
Thank you.
At least it wasn't the wave rake...Hope Sig sees this and goes for an upgrade. And that none of the ban groups start accusing LPL of teaching children how to beat safety measures...court of public opinion passes quick sentence.
@LockPickingLawyer I have a question: I have 2 of these same locks although possibly newer versions because mine have a drill plate covering the entire bottom of the lock, with a recessed core. The drill plate also has a shaped opening that seems to intend to allow for the inserted key to rotate, only in the appropriate direction, and anything larger to be blocked from turning. Nevertheless I have managed to open both locks a few times but not consistently.
I don't have any reason to believe there are security pins, but there is a weird oddity that both locks have that I would like your thoughts on.
The oddity is that the cores are not stable. There are a few degrees of rotation allowed without the key in. Interestingly, if the core is rotated those few degrees off 12 o'clock, the pins seize and the key cannot be inserted. The result is that under tension, thr core is turned those few degrees and all of the pins are incredibly stiff, so much so they deformed my pick. The only time the pins are appropriately springy and moveable is when the core is at 12 o'clock, which it cannot be while under tension. Somehow I was (as I said) able to pick both locks anyway a few times, but I heavily damaged my pick and do cannot repeat my success at will. I've watched a LOT of your videos (great work btw) but haven't seen anything addressing this specific issue. It's similar to a false set, only it occurs by default even without any pins set.
Sorry for the long question but I had to try providing as much detail without any visual aids. I hope I succeeded, and you can offer some insight. Thanks in advance.
I feel like if there are any commandments of lockmaking "thou shalt not put multiple zero cuts in a 4 pin core" should be one of thwm.
NO JOKE!
He said a novice could pick this, and I have one that came with one of my SIGs. I decided to try picking it. I couldn't manage with paper clips, so I decided to just stick a pen's clip (Like, to clip it onto your pocket) basically a thin strip of metal down the keyway and jiggle. IT OPENED! I PICKED IT WITH A SHANK! I HAVE NEVER PICKED A LOCK BEFORE!(Well, I shimmed a lockbox once....) This lock is hilariously vulnerable to picking!
It wouldn't pass the "curious teen" safety check.
I picked this myself, and couldn’t remember which pistol it went with… now I know!
I have a mossberg lock that opens just by sticking a pick in, no picking or raking needed
Have you tried accessing the FORTEM Car Trunk Organizer,?
So my question is, can you pick it quicker than I can open it with a set of bolt cutters? It seems like a terrible lock all round tbh
I just bought a Taurus G2C and a similar lock came with it. Looks the same but is red.
AWESOME REVIEW L.P.L. MOST HAND GUNS CAN BE BROKE DOWN IN A MATTER OF SECONDS AND REASSEMBLE IN MATTER SECONDS LAST THING I WOULD DO IS ADD A LOCK MY OPINION ONLY .IT TAKES LONGER TO GET A KEY AND OPEN A LOCK.OR STORE THE BOLT SEPARATED .I KNOW SOME REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE IT LOCK WITH CABLE..THANKS FOR SHOWING. 😎😎😎😎😎
Thanks... I guess circumstances dictate locking requirements. With a kid in the house, I wouldn't rely on disassembly.
I remember hearing somewhere that the main reason why so many handguns come with these included and why they are given out for free on military bases to personnel is actually for suicide prevention. Having another step in the way of you picking up the gun and shooting yourself helps to decrease the chance you will actually do it. Granted it’s also another step between you picking up the gun and using it in self defense but ah well.
One of the other major purposes for these locks is to prevent someone like your own child who might manage to find your gun from being able to hurt themselves with it. Small children aren’t typically good at picking locks. A gun safe would be better but if you are just an average Joe who owns a single handgun for home defense you might think it’s not worth the money to buy one when the gun you bought probably came with one of these.
Tl;dr These locks don’t have to be great because they are primarily for childproofing and suicide prevention. They don’t replace a gun safe, they are a “it’s better than nothing” measure usually included with your handgun purchase.
That embarrassing moment when the button snap on my holster provides more security than the lock...
I'm a total noob with no skill. I bought a lot of 6 different gun safety locks off eBay for practice. Beretta, Ruger, Savage, Marlin, etc. "brands." One was a model CL-885, very similar to this. Within 30 minutes of receiving them today I had picked them all. The only challenge was the tiny keyways on some of the 30mm locks and being able to tension them.
what about cutting the chain (or whatever it is)?
This lock looks like it can beat cut easily with bolt cutters
Does it unlock itself when dropped? 😂
Pick??? Ahhhhh...... My bolt cutter with 1 snip on the cable.... 1 second.
They can be smashed with a hammer nearly as quickly.
I don't think that lock is to prevent thieves but instead kids. I believe the reason firearms are shipped with the lock is because a kid was killed and the family lobied to have locks come with guns. It may not stop a thief but stopping a 4 year is important too
I'm sure these locks are shipped with the guns as part of the youth handgun act or whatever that paper that comes with them is. It's not high security but it's so you have zero excuse to let a kid access a most kids will not be a lock picking lawyer, nor will they have immediate access or knowledge of basic wire cutters. It's a low security detergent for the curious and opporutunistic.
I'm curious to know if all the keys for these locks are actually the same.
I have a couple of that style lock for my glock and my Smith. They are good for young child protection, which is my main focus as I have 2 under six. I will not trust the trigger well locks even with an empty firearm, heard too many stories of accidental discharges with that type "protection."
wow not very safe.cool video buddy😊👍😊😊
Thanks.
Out of boredom I tried picking this with a Bobby pin not expecting anything… it opened first try. I have no experience picking locks prior to this😅
Sig Sauer may not be the company that made the lock, but if they're distributing the lock with their firearms, then they are indicating their support for it and their belief that it is of sufficient quality.
What type/size of tension wrench?
You need to score an Ed Brown, Wilson or some other high end 1911 to go along with your spiffy lawyer lock picking skills.
Lock Picking Lawyer picking lawyer lock
The problem with the first lock was probably an oversight.
Which locks do you actually use?
Can you do one for H&K? I lost my stupid key, now I can't open my case (I wrapped it around my case, not the actual handgun).
What do you use to lock your guns up
I will not talk about my personal security arrangements, but they are quite robust.
What would you recommend for handgun?
What are you going to be using it for? Duty gun, home, CC?
Home.
I think that this king of cheep lock is just for law, not for security. Only way to secure the gun is good safe or carrying gun with you all time
Got my first tool kit today! Only have 1 lock to play with right now. I think it's this lock! Mine came from a food donation thing. Interesting
Try thrift stores to pick up locks cheaply that people have donated sans keys. I saw a bunch of these in a Goodwill, but have seen other bike locks, padlocks & door locks, too.
These locks are mostly to stop kids from using guns. Not many kids have the skills and tools to open even a simple lock.
Hi Harry, I have an approved gun safe at home containing a double barrel shot gun and two rifles. Under Australian law, the gun safe must be bolted down if it weighs under 150 kgs ( 330lbs ). Above that weight it can be free standing. There should be a separate lockable container for ammo. within the safe. Unless you belong to a pistol club etc., hand guns are prohibited. My question is, regardless of the quality of the gun locks, when would they be used, or required to be used? Is it a situation with kids at home, gun under the pillow, lock it? Carrying hand guns in a vehicle, lock it? Where would there be a requirement to actually lock the action but still have quick access? Just curious .... Regards, Brian.
I shudder to think of the nasty security that a safe expert like you employs! As for these gun locks, they are certainly not quick access devices. Personally, I don't see a use for them, but I honestly think that they are intended to be used in lieu of a security container. That's scary.
I think your ideas are on the mark. In the US how you are required to secure a firearm is almost always a matter of state law. Some states require any firearm in a home where there is a minor be locked when stored. Some states require firearms to be unloaded and inaccessible during transportation; on a motorcycle there could be no other option than locking it.
Huh, I genuinely thought guns just straight up weren't allowed for civillians in Australia
The gun shop sold me an sig sauer gun with a gun lock. I also bought a pelican case for my handgun. Thankfully I placed the gun lock on the case first… turned out they gave me the wrong key 😅 I didn’t have time to go back so now I’m just trying to pick the gun lock or cut it off.
6yrs too late with this comment but when are you starting a gun channel, LPL?? GSL has a ring to it.
oh, Sig Sauer is a gun! I thought it was just the name of the lock
Where can we buy this?
that is one pretty gun
Thanks... older 226.
Re: the anti-drill plate... I would guess it's there simply because the company uses the same core for many applications and the plate is part of the general components set. Especially with it being actually attached to the core.
Question: Is your baseline idea of a novice picker "Barely any practice but at least has proper picks" or "Idiot putzing around with a screwdriver and a bent paperclip or hairpin"?
nothing that even a novice picker would have any trouble opening at all
**me** sitting here trying to pick my exact same lock model from the same firearm for the last hour unsuccessfully
so that was a lie
I found a lock like this being tossed in a box of non essential police stuff. No key sadly... I guess until now ;)
You sir are a life saver 🥂🇺🇸
"This firearm is disabled"... "It" may feel offended :P
I prefer 'special needs'.
After all of these videos on bad gun locks I have no idea what good gun safes I could use lol has he done positive reviews on gun safes?
$800 gun locked up with a $6 lock😳
Soooo... I noticed he's having the same kind of trouble with these locks as I have: the keys are hard to remove! My key is stuck in my lock, which would make it totally impossible to use.