Karl: "what's the first thing that I do on InRange to find out if something is working out well?" Me: "douse it in mud? I'm not sure how that's helpf-" Karl: "we take it to a match." Me: "Oh. Right, I knew that."
Most gun channels don’t even bother going into the history of weapons because they all acknowledge that Karl and Ian are the subject matter experts on just about everything
@@vballwise And not only them, but Larry A. Vickers from VickersTactical as well. Thats what I love about all of them, they dive into the history behind the firearm we see and the though process behind how they work. A breath of fresh air in a way
@@dsomething2837 "Lunar Brutality is fun they said! Lower gravity makes everything easyer they said! No one tells you that the damn kettlebell you've just thrown will fly about 100 meters or more! Better start running now!"
Karl is one of the few “gun influencers” that when he says: “buy this! This is amazing” - you can trust 100% without suspecting of some marketing deal behind the curtains (which when they are disclosed, I’m totally fine with it)
Me and my friend use Carl and Ian’s term/comment “InRangeTV Stamp of Hubris” from the original WWSD component videos to describe other things that are truly great. If it’s got the stamp of hubris you can’t go wrong with it lol
@@jakesdaysoff4683 You're absolutely right! IIRC, in the movie "The Hitman's Bodyguard ", two of the characters empty their pistols at each other, then throw them at each other. It's an old gag, but the "weapon" Karl had to do an unpleasant review on has a great advantage in such a situation. Whereas the movie protagonists must waste time emptying their weapons before using them as a makeshift rock, owners of the double barreled doorstop know to immediately throw it at their attacker without wasting precious time actually trying to shoot their attacker. Hopefully he is distracted by shiny new things and will forget about his attack and pick up the doorstop and go about figuring out the manual of arms for it. Ultimately allowing said (previous) doorstop owner to go about his business. Whoops, I went inside my head again. I'm ok now
The MDR is quietly becoming one of the most interesting rifles on the market. It fulfills so many of the modular promises of the wonder rifles of the 2000s. After completely writing off bullpups, this one has started to change my mind.
Caliber conversion, integrated (and solidly built) bipod, no ejection jams, safe ejection of hot brass, bullpup rifle with M-Lok and all the tacticool Magpul accessories, and from a precision bolt-action rifle manufacturer? epic.
Throw on a clear viewport to the action and make magaizne well pivotable to combat the drawbacks of a bullpup and you now have a highly efficient weapon system
One of the reasons I watch this show, is Karl's brutal honesty. He holds nothing back and informs the viewer, using an educated opinion. Hard to say for alot of folks these days.
It was so interesting to watch the whole Desert Tech MDR journey play out live on In Range. First was the honest review identifying the initial problems with the gun. It was honest and constructive criticism. Next was the equally honest response from the company owning the problems and initiating actions to remedy them. I remember the CEO’s sort of awkward video essentially saying that the company was invested in correcting the identified issues. That was an exercise in corporate responsibility that any number of multinationals could learn from. The result is a bull pup that even Karl can love (or at least accept). A master class in honest constructive feedback and a successful corporate response. Congratulations to both parties
That looks really nice, and I think the bullpup layout is a really ideal place for BLK-LBL's bipod setup. Handguard space is at an absolute premium, and you can't monopod on a magazine, so the strengths are even more important.
@@InrangeTv Well now I feel silly for doing the math on how many misses they had (700 billion) and how long it would have taken Daniel C to fire all his shots with an M134 Minigun (210 years).
@InRangeTV Thanks for your part in this! Just last week I was wishing there was a BLK LBL handguard for the MDRX. I ordered one a few months ago based on your and Ian's thoughts along with DT's willingness to fix the issues you raised.
@@InrangeTv Just to confirm: The down range one or the across one? The across is easier to set up for sure, but I am guessing the "traditional" one is the better drill for the shooter.
After watching several weeks of side-to-side Kasarda Drill on multiple channels, it is so refreshing to see the classic advance-to-position drill. Also nice to see you have the 60-rd drum in there. I have wondered how they would work in a bullpup ergonomically.
Ergonomically, drum mags and bullpups generally don't like each other. But from a prone position, you don't have to support the weight and can kick your right elbow out more. But when standing, your elbows like to rub against the drum mag. It works, but isn't super comfortable.
This is my dream gun right now. I keep getting my dream guns and I keep on dreaming....it never ends. But seriously the mdrx with this handguard looks absolutely fantastic.
I saw this on desert techs youtube a week ago and inrangetv was the first thing that came to mind since this solved alot of karl's complaints on the rifle cool to see he kick-started the process.
I’m impressed and very happy to see how much influence you have now... your own(Ian and Russell’s too) full scale production AR variant on the market and now your ideas are resulting in great products from different manufacturers. I can’t wait to see what else InRangeTV has up its sleeve!!!
Buy once cry once though. I see soo many people I know just buy handgun after handgun that they kinda like, instead of saving and getting the quality rifle system that they can be satisfied with.
@@Gerwulf97 I have that problem. I like to try out all of the budget/mid priced options and never end up getting something nice. With guns though, I don’t want to cheap out on my first since they’re took that can potentially be the difference between life and death. That’s why I’m saving up for a WWSD rifle and a CZ P10C with a red dot for my first guns.
I have been saving up for my ultimate multi-role rifle and for the past year or so, I have planned on it being the MDRX in 6.5CM. This handguard is now on the list of required accessories for when I am finally able to get it. This video seriously just reignited my excitement for this project.
Hey Karl, you mentioned that you wouldn't trust a plastic handguard to maintain zero on a laser device. What about the carbon fiber handguard on wwsd2020? Should that hold zero with a laser?
Glad to see your work, no matter how small or large it was, helped make this cool gun even better. I look forward to getting an MDRX and throwing this on it!
Got a BLK LBL Handguard both on my AR-10 and Tikka when they came out. Couldn't be happier, it works out really well and ultimately wasn't more expensive then a quality handguard and bipod.
@@therealknightrider.7908 Unless you're using a helical suppressor, there will always be some quantity of gas coming back down the barrel due to the increased dwell time the baffles create. The placement of the ejection port is what determines how "gassy" the rifle will be to the shooter.
This video is like watching the last episode of an emotional miniseries. First, there was Ian's first video showcasing the intricacies and peculiarities of the action. Then, the initial failures happened, triggering Karl and Ian to discuss the philosophical question of the bullpup's worth as a concept. Karl at the time voiced his opinion that bullpup's had no redeeming qualitites (at least, thats how I remember it felt :) ) Now, after the gun has been fixed and Desert Tech has shown themselves to be a truly SUPERB company, Karl has come so far around to the concept that we get to hear him sing praises of both the machine and the company that built it. God Almighty, I do love happy endings :)
Which state? Desert Tech now offers compliant versions of the MDR. Straight from their website you can get a CA-compliant MDR, complete with fin and longer barrel.
Awesome video. I really liked the last ones when you and Ian took a first time look at the MDR and identified some of the issues it was having. And how Desert Tech responded to the feedback. Unlike some others who have completely ignored their customers >_< I'd buy one if I were living in the US.
They are for sale outside the US, you know. I have a friend in Switzerland who has an MDR. There are a few guys in Brazil who I know have MDR's. MDR's are in the unrestricted category in Canada.
Watching Karl hammer on that pin with the screw driver handle is what makes me love this channel. I feel like most channels now either have super fancy tools for everything or they baby their expensive rifles. Karl just gets shit done with what he's got on hand like the rest of us peasants.
@Scumfuck McDoucheface I just did a quick search. Looks like a quality product. Good stuff ain't cheap. I'd snap one up at $250 but just can't justify it at that price.
"What's the first thing we do to make sure something works?" Me: Raising hand in class confidently "We Mud" Teacher Karl "We take it to a match" Me: Why yes we take it to a match
Great review and info. Have FDE in route this week. DT only had black Mantis in stock.. REALLY appreciate the showing of the blk model on your fde rifle.. I’m digging the contrast..
Gah love this content. Thankyou for being so thorough and driven to make this weapon system live up to it's full potential. It's not even close to your favorite type of rifle and yet because you believed in the companies and saw an opportunity to improve on the system you took it. And now the MDR is on my list of must haves!
The problem is that they made the bipod legs just the right height. If you make the legs too long, by extending the handguard, then you've made the bipod less practical. Also, this handguard should work just fine for the 20" MDR barrels. As is, the factory handguards for the MDR aren't increased in length when you order a 20" barrel. So far, there are no longer handguards, so I'm not sure I see the benefit in investing the money to make a longer handguard model for the few people who got 20" barrels and the even fewer people who got a 20" barrel AND want the BLK LBL mantis AND would only get the BLK LBL mantis if it were longer.
@@LinkHyrule03 I hear you, but like me and OP and the 25+ other people liking this, we would want to see it. And there's no need to increase the bipods length. You just have the bipod part stop, and the back 1/2 to 1/3 would just be normal handguard. This is not only for 20" barrels, like what I want in 6.5CM, but also anyone wanting more rail space with a suppressed 16", just like desert techs handguard. You may be right, it may not be worth it for them, but it'd be perfect for some of us at least.
Would you ever do a series of videos where you test modern weapons vs other modern weapons? i would lover to see WWSD2020 vs MDR, Sig rifles, the Bren ect.
Why not get one, then? Stimulus money is coming, the MDR is the best bullpup on the market, and this BLK LBL bipod handguard just pushes it over the top in its superiority over the competition. If you are interested, the MDRxSE in 5.56 is less than $2000. If you look around, you can find them for $1700-$1800 new. The side ejecting model offers A LOT of advantages. They completely redesigned and reengineered the internal mechanism, so it has a traditional side ejecting mechanism like an AR or Tavor, it takes less gas to run (thus less recoil), it has a bunch of reliability improvements, many users report getting even better accuracy from the side ejecting models, and the side ejecting model sheds half a pound of weight from the older MDR models. Literally the only disadvantages are: 1) It's only for .223/5.56, so no .308, 6.5CM, or the larger full rifle calibers. The side eject apparently only works for the intermediate calibers. 2) It no longer ejects forward, but it is still quickly swappable for the ejection side. If you want a 5.56 MDR, the MDRxSE side ejecting model is the way to go. It's cheaper and lighter as well.
@@LinkHyrule03 in the uk or i would silverback doing an airsoft version will be getting that and then if the move to the states is on in a few years grab one.
You have a stimulus check coming? Why not hop on before Biden passes more gun control? You can find an MDRxSE in 5.56 for $1700-$1800 new if you look around.
There's one thing about bullpups that never gets any attention. They are 1M times less annoying to climb through windows with. Or hatches in armored vehicles or doors in, well, anything. The back heft is actually a big plus when you have to aim upwards from the bottom of a staircase etc, because you can hold that aim basically forever without getting tired. Try it with an AK or FAL if you want to discover how quickly your aim suffers. the _Thing_ is that bullpups are so much better in cities and vehicles than regular layout, and that is seriously important for anyone who will have to deal. _And_ they can do that with the same effective range as long rifles.
Or even woods, and reeds, or just holding the rifle up in a ready position, or when you need to take a hand off to talk on the radio. Yes all can be accomplished with a carbine, but then you give up long range ballistics/terminal ballistics, and that is huge.
Hey BLK-LBL... There are a lot of Tavor X-95s out there that could seriously benefit from this (I love the rifle, but the stock handguard kind of suck).
Anyone else here that’s sick of the MAC SVD controversy? I hope the truth comes out, whatever it is. Thank God for InRangeTV and Forgotten Weapons!!! Great content, no bull$#!+
I really want an MDR. I have no idea why. Rule of cool primarily though I'm sure I can get plenty of work out of one of these provided I can get ammo. Gorgeous guns and their interactions with the community at large and InRange in particular give me the warm fuzzies about Desert Tech as a company. The BLK bipod seems like a pretty obvious upgrade for it too. Hopefully I can get one in a few years.
That MDR looks more and more high tec as time goes on. Not quite a pulse rifle yet but definitely would fit in if found in say the Halo universe at this point.
I saw the promotion video on their channel and I instantly went to the website to buy it for my MDRX, but I saw the price tag of $499 and that instantly turned me away. I get that it’s a nice hand guard and I have no clue what all goes into making a hand guard like that so maybe I’m just naive, but I feel like $499 for a hand guard that will only ever work on the MDR series of rifles is a little much. Looks awesome though. Maybe they’ll go down in price eventually because it would be perfect for me.
Irishman has an aluminum handguard for the MDR for $299.00, but then buying a decent quality bipod for $99.00 and QD mount for another $65.00 and ending up with a bulky bipod setup that snags on everything when I am moving around.....this option is a lot easier to justify. Buy once, cry once.
I think the price point is a little off on the high side, but not by much. If you stop and consider the investment, infrastructure and man hours required, it's really not that expensive, even if it is a lot of money. And it honestly is a lot of money. 🤷♂️
$500 isn't bad at all considering not only are you getting a top-tier carbon fiber bipod that pans, tilts, and levels, but you're also getting a really nice aluminum handguard. A nice carbon fiber bipod with pan, tilt, leveling, and an adjustable friction collar on its own will run you $400-$600. A nice MDR aluminum handguard from Lucky Irishman on its own will run you $250-$300. So already, you're coming ahead in price. Not only that, but the end result is FAR lighter than a handguard with a separate bipod AND the bipod is lower profile, which is an insane advantage. Bullpups struggle to accept bipods well because of how short they are. There is not enough room on such a short handguard to accommodate BOTH your hand and a bipod like there is on a long AR. But with this, you have a streamlined flush handguard that your hand can hold and you get no interference from the bipod. That alone is worth $500. Their price aside, for the pure advantage of having a flush-fit bipod that isn't there when I don't want it, has ZERO disadvantages, but is still there when I need it, I'd easily pay $800. To me, this is a steal.
Best Bullpup on the market?! Still waiting on you to test the M17s... Honestly I know it wont be as good as the MDR in many ways but it deserves some attention.
This makes the choice of my first rifle even harder, I can't decide whether I want an mdr in 6.5 cm or a wwsd build in 6.5 grendel. Thank god I don't have the money so I don't have to choose yet
Karl: "what's the first thing that I do on InRange to find out if something is working out well?"
Me: "douse it in mud? I'm not sure how that's helpf-"
Karl: "we take it to a match."
Me: "Oh. Right, I knew that."
Not ashamed to admit that this is where I went, too.
Was going to comment this exact thing lol
Very legit
Been watching too much flannel daddy
Thought the same thing myself lol
Karl and Ian are quickly becoming the enlightenment philosophers of the modern firearms industry
They totally are. Like warrior philosophers
@@markgolden1418
Renaissance men.
Most gun channels don’t even bother going into the history of weapons because they all acknowledge that Karl and Ian are the subject matter experts on just about everything
@@vballwise
And not only them, but Larry A. Vickers from VickersTactical as well. Thats what I love about all of them, they dive into the history behind the firearm we see and the though process behind how they work. A breath of fresh air in a way
@@markgolden1418 "War Poets", if you will
Man, this setup looks futuristic af
Yeah, when are we getting a Lunar brutality matches
@@dsomething2837
"Lunar Brutality is fun they said! Lower gravity makes everything easyer they said!
No one tells you that the damn kettlebell you've just thrown will fly about 100 meters or more! Better start running now!"
@@dsomething2837 what, so you can introduce 150KG kettlebells?
And yet still all practical
The gun looks like a mass effect weapon.
Karl is one of the few “gun influencers” that when he says: “buy this! This is amazing” - you can trust 100% without suspecting of some marketing deal behind the curtains (which when they are disclosed, I’m totally fine with it)
Me and my friend use Carl and Ian’s term/comment “InRangeTV Stamp of Hubris” from the original WWSD component videos to describe other things that are truly great. If it’s got the stamp of hubris you can’t go wrong with it lol
And on the inverse, if Karl says "Don't buy this, It's shit." - you know it has no redeeming value.
@@AtholAnderson hey now, just because it can't hit anything you aim at past 3 yards doesn't mean it has no redeeming qualities. Lol
@@jakesdaysoff4683 It tastes nice at least?
@@jakesdaysoff4683
You're absolutely right!
IIRC, in the movie "The Hitman's Bodyguard ", two of the characters empty their pistols at each other, then throw them at each other. It's an old gag, but the "weapon" Karl had to do an unpleasant review on has a great advantage in such a situation.
Whereas the movie protagonists must waste time emptying their weapons before using them as a makeshift rock, owners of the double barreled doorstop know to immediately throw it at their attacker without wasting precious time actually trying to shoot their attacker. Hopefully he is distracted by shiny new things and will forget about his attack and pick up the doorstop and go about figuring out the manual of arms for it.
Ultimately allowing said (previous) doorstop owner to go about his business.
Whoops, I went inside my head again.
I'm ok now
Karl not only won, but he also won with a comfy margin. Impressive.
Very sleek design, surprisingly refreshing that the guys at Black Label and Desert Tech are so willing to collaborate so efficiently. Impressive 👍
Shout out to Karl for how engaged he is in the comment section.
If he’s so engaged with it, why doesn’t he just marry it already?
@@notforsaletoday1895 The comment section appears to be emotionally unstable.
@@tok3659
Hey! We're no GaranDaddy comment section! (Yet, at least)
The MDR is quietly becoming one of the most interesting rifles on the market. It fulfills so many of the modular promises of the wonder rifles of the 2000s. After completely writing off bullpups, this one has started to change my mind.
The second I heard of the MDR I had a good feeling about it, so far it seems I'm right
Caliber conversion, integrated (and solidly built) bipod, no ejection jams, safe ejection of hot brass, bullpup rifle with M-Lok and all the tacticool Magpul accessories, and from a precision bolt-action rifle manufacturer? epic.
all that's missing is a huge integrated carry handle for the modern FAMAS
You could slap on a detachable A2 carry handle on the picatinny rail. With a red dot / holographic sight without a magnifier it would probably fit.
found Ian's alt account.
Throw on a clear viewport to the action and make magaizne well pivotable to combat the drawbacks of a bullpup and you now have a highly efficient weapon system
It's been a joy to watch the MDR project get better and better with InrangeTVs help
One of the reasons I watch this show, is Karl's brutal honesty. He holds nothing back and informs the viewer, using an educated opinion. Hard to say for alot of folks these days.
It was so interesting to watch the whole Desert Tech MDR journey play out live on In Range. First was the honest review identifying the initial problems with the gun. It was honest and constructive criticism. Next was the equally honest response from the company owning the problems and initiating actions to remedy them. I remember the CEO’s sort of awkward video essentially saying that the company was invested in correcting the identified issues. That was an exercise in corporate responsibility that any number of multinationals could learn from. The result is a bull pup that even Karl can love (or at least accept). A master class in honest constructive feedback and a successful corporate response. Congratulations to both parties
That looks really nice, and I think the bullpup layout is a really ideal place for BLK-LBL's bipod setup. Handguard space is at an absolute premium, and you can't monopod on a magazine, so the strengths are even more important.
Well said. I just got an over-bore bipod for my MDRX to save space. Now I wish I had waited.
@@AverageJoe4063 Yeah, I've been eyeing an Atlas for a few years for my MDR but now I'm super happy I waited. This is a much slicker solution.
Well said.
I feel like there's a story behind the two last place finishers at that match.
Cool bipod and neat way that it happened!
DQ or quit early.
Yeah that was funny to see
@@InrangeTv Well now I feel silly for doing the math on how many misses they had (700 billion) and how long it would have taken Daniel C to fire all his shots with an M134 Minigun (210 years).
Fun semi-related fact, if you use FALSE in your spreadsheet the cells with them are sorted to the last places on sort.
@InRangeTV Thanks for your part in this! Just last week I was wishing there was a BLK LBL handguard for the MDRX. I ordered one a few months ago based on your and Ian's thoughts along with DT's willingness to fix the issues you raised.
Hope you enjoy it!
@@InrangeTv Thanks! I hope so too, still waiting for it to ship.
2:33 had me excited for a mud test for a second... ;)
I was doubtful about the MDRX until I saw this video. It's really a game changer. Thanks Karl!
Glad it was helpful!
It was so weird to see the kettle bell thrown down range again
It’s the better version of that drill, imo.
@@InrangeTv Just to confirm: The down range one or the across one?
The across is easier to set up for sure, but I am guessing the "traditional" one is the better drill for the shooter.
Hey, Karl, ever think that you’d impact the firearms industry so much when you first started InRange? Keep up the awesome work.
After watching several weeks of side-to-side Kasarda Drill on multiple channels, it is so refreshing to see the classic advance-to-position drill. Also nice to see you have the 60-rd drum in there. I have wondered how they would work in a bullpup ergonomically.
Ergonomically, drum mags and bullpups generally don't like each other.
But from a prone position, you don't have to support the weight and can kick your right elbow out more. But when standing, your elbows like to rub against the drum mag. It works, but isn't super comfortable.
Loving that the MDR is gaining popularity.
This is my dream gun right now. I keep getting my dream guns and I keep on dreaming....it never ends. But seriously the mdrx with this handguard looks absolutely fantastic.
Karl, you're an absolute beast with that gun.
Lol
@@fokjohnpainkiller nothing wrong with fanboying a bit, if it's earned. I'm not a bad shot, but Karl is well beyond me. 🤷♂️
I saw this on desert techs youtube a week ago and inrangetv was the first thing that came to mind since this solved alot of karl's complaints on the rifle cool to see he kick-started the process.
1st by a full 20 seconds, that's a good difference.
Nice review, thanks Karl!
Thanks for watching!
*nods in approval at innovative product design*
Awesome, thanks for being the connection that made the development happen! Karl you rock.
Just picked one up! Always wanted something like this for the MDR and here it is!
I’m impressed and very happy to see how much influence you have now... your own(Ian and Russell’s too) full scale production AR variant on the market and now your ideas are resulting in great products from different manufacturers. I can’t wait to see what else InRangeTV has up its sleeve!!!
The fact that Karl actually likes the MDR and this setup makes me want it even more. Too bad it’d cost almost as much as my first car.
And?
Yeah, I don't see a problem here.
You're paying for quality that will last a lifetime, unlike that first car.
@@LinkHyrule03 i don’t have a problem with how much it cost, I just can’t afford it at the moment. One day, I’m definitely gonna pick one up
Buy once cry once though. I see soo many people I know just buy handgun after handgun that they kinda like, instead of saving and getting the quality rifle system that they can be satisfied with.
@@Gerwulf97 I have that problem. I like to try out all of the budget/mid priced options and never end up getting something nice. With guns though, I don’t want to cheap out on my first since they’re took that can potentially be the difference between life and death. That’s why I’m saving up for a WWSD rifle and a CZ P10C with a red dot for my first guns.
My Mantis handguard arrived today. The final jigsaw piece to fully assemble my new MDRX. Exciting times!
How's it holding up? And you get a suppressor for your puzzle?
This is rad. It's super cool to see companies listen to their customers and actually innovate. That shouldn't be rare but it unfortunately is.
I have been saving up for my ultimate multi-role rifle and for the past year or so, I have planned on it being the MDRX in 6.5CM. This handguard is now on the list of required accessories for when I am finally able to get it. This video seriously just reignited my excitement for this project.
Desert tech makes my brain happy but my wallet is shaking nervously
Stimulus money coming.
@@jerrylong381 don’t tempt me
@@thefrogstronaut *palpatine voice* DO IT.
I still cant shake the urge to buy one of these so that I can larp as an ODST
Same though. That's why I need one in .308
Also that armor concept that Hoplite had last year that looked just like UNSC armor
@@Turambar117 I swear that some day I'm gonna show up to a 2gun match wearing some mashup of Odst and modern kit and rock it the whole time
Halo is the whole reason i bought my MDRx in the first place, HK slapping a Bullpup is a childhood dream of mine 🤣
I hope Desert Tech and Blk Lbl continue to work together. A SRS with a Blk Lbl bipod would be amazing.
Hey Karl, you mentioned that you wouldn't trust a plastic handguard to maintain zero on a laser device. What about the carbon fiber handguard on wwsd2020? Should that hold zero with a laser?
This will be discussed in a future video.
I was thinking about that a while ago, I'm glad somebody less forgetful than me asked
@@johnfaire2359 all my yes. Happens soooooooo often. 🤷♂️👍😉
@@InrangeTv excited anime noises
Yes. Carbon fiber is much stronger and stiffer than plastic.
I enjoy watching people having fun with their pain and suffering. Thanks. 👍
Glad to see your work, no matter how small or large it was, helped make this cool gun even better. I look forward to getting an MDRX and throwing this on it!
You made that happen?! What a great contribution, thank you!
Got a BLK LBL Handguard both on my AR-10 and Tikka when they came out. Couldn't be happier, it works out really well and ultimately wasn't more expensive then a quality handguard and bipod.
How is the gas coming back when the suppressor is on there?
No gas what's so every as you can see when he shot there was not dust kick up in his face when shooting. That bullpup design also helped with that.
@@therealknightrider.7908 Unless you're using a helical suppressor, there will always be some quantity of gas coming back down the barrel due to the increased dwell time the baffles create. The placement of the ejection port is what determines how "gassy" the rifle will be to the shooter.
I'm not a bullpup fan but if I was this would be the way I'd go. Awesome product!
This video is like watching the last episode of an emotional miniseries.
First, there was Ian's first video showcasing the intricacies and peculiarities of the action. Then, the initial failures happened, triggering Karl and Ian to discuss the philosophical question of the bullpup's worth as a concept. Karl at the time voiced his opinion that bullpup's had no redeeming qualitites (at least, thats how I remember it felt :) ) Now, after the gun has been fixed and Desert Tech has shown themselves to be a truly SUPERB company, Karl has come so far around to the concept that we get to hear him sing praises of both the machine and the company that built it.
God Almighty, I do love happy endings :)
I've been excited about the MDR since it was announced. If only I lived in a state that respected the constitution
Which state? Desert Tech now offers compliant versions of the MDR.
Straight from their website you can get a CA-compliant MDR, complete with fin and longer barrel.
@@LinkHyrule03 I have used a fin, it makes me feel like I don't have full control of the weapon. I refuse to use fins anymore
Awesome video. I really liked the last ones when you and Ian took a first time look at the MDR and identified some of the issues it was having. And how Desert Tech responded to the feedback. Unlike some others who have completely ignored their customers >_< I'd buy one if I were living in the US.
They are for sale outside the US, you know.
I have a friend in Switzerland who has an MDR.
There are a few guys in Brazil who I know have MDR's. MDR's are in the unrestricted category in Canada.
@@LinkHyrule03 I'll need to check if they are legal in Northen Ireland. I don't think simi-auto is though. Even air soft is restricted here >_
Watching Karl hammer on that pin with the screw driver handle is what makes me love this channel. I feel like most channels now either have super fancy tools for everything or they baby their expensive rifles. Karl just gets shit done with what he's got on hand like the rest of us peasants.
Now the MDR/MDRX has a bipod. Adjustable leg lengths. Adjustable rotation around the barrel. Take that, FAMAS.
Damn. I understand why it's a $500 accessory but that puts it out of my price range. Looks like a great option for those who can afford it.
@Scumfuck McDoucheface I just did a quick search. Looks like a quality product. Good stuff ain't cheap. I'd snap one up at $250 but just can't justify it at that price.
@Scumfuck McDoucheface I think BLK LBL is a Canadian company.
STD Manufacturing: I sleep
Desert-Tec: REAL SHIT?!
I've been saving up for a 6.5 conversion kit, and now this... arrrrg!!!
Is this your duty gun for Space Force? Need to test some tactical space helmets now!
I’m ready for Mars colonization.
Fun fact, gas operated weapons work in space :D
@@kap8495 quite a few older ones were gravity feed and some wont work well in the wrong orientation so I assume some would be poor in zero g.
@@jakraziel actually everything high powered that cold punch holes into the spacecraft outer hull would be a hazard.
@@kap8495 it all depends on your definition of "work". I wouldn't wanna have to suffer the consequences of recoil in space. Just saying.🤷♂️😉
"What's the first thing we do to make sure something works?"
Me: Raising hand in class confidently "We Mud"
Teacher Karl "We take it to a match"
Me: Why yes we take it to a match
Great looking setup, always great when an idea turns into a successfully executed product
Im a nerd for looks, if the MDR had a hand guard on the grip like the X95, I'd buy this gun in a heart beat. Straight up for looks, nothing more.
Would love to see this, but with that longer and a bit wider handguard. I always thought that one looked better than the standard one
Great review and info. Have FDE in route this week. DT only had black Mantis in stock.. REALLY appreciate the showing of the blk model on your fde rifle.. I’m digging the contrast..
Gah love this content. Thankyou for being so thorough and driven to make this weapon system live up to it's full potential. It's not even close to your favorite type of rifle and yet because you believed in the companies and saw an opportunity to improve on the system you took it. And now the MDR is on my list of must haves!
Are they planning an extended rail version for 20" barrel MDRs?
Ooh I hope so
The problem is that they made the bipod legs just the right height. If you make the legs too long, by extending the handguard, then you've made the bipod less practical.
Also, this handguard should work just fine for the 20" MDR barrels. As is, the factory handguards for the MDR aren't increased in length when you order a 20" barrel. So far, there are no longer handguards, so I'm not sure I see the benefit in investing the money to make a longer handguard model for the few people who got 20" barrels and the even fewer people who got a 20" barrel AND want the BLK LBL mantis AND would only get the BLK LBL mantis if it were longer.
@@LinkHyrule03 I hear you, but like me and OP and the 25+ other people liking this, we would want to see it. And there's no need to increase the bipods length. You just have the bipod part stop, and the back 1/2 to 1/3 would just be normal handguard. This is not only for 20" barrels, like what I want in 6.5CM, but also anyone wanting more rail space with a suppressed 16", just like desert techs handguard. You may be right, it may not be worth it for them, but it'd be perfect for some of us at least.
@@LinkHyrule03
You make some solid points to not bring out an extended version, my man
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
I don't really like the look of the original handguard on this rifle, but with this replacement it looks GORGEOUS!
This video has earned the Stamp of Hubris. Thank you for another informative video Karl.
Would you ever do a series of videos where you test modern weapons vs other modern weapons? i would lover to see WWSD2020 vs MDR, Sig rifles, the Bren ect.
Crazy how this guy can run this gun through and win a competition while other channels have a jam every other round.
The sound of him crawling under the barrels sounds like solid snake crawling around... 6:10
Are you able to pressure load the bipod? It didn't look like you were applying much forward pressure while prone in the match.
Yes
@@InrangeTv good to know!
@@SR-wz2iv The legs lock in the down position. Buttons on either side of the handguard release the legs so they can fold.
@@LinkHyrule03 It does lock, but that feature in and of itself doesn't tell the viewer if it is actually durable enough to use that way.
Holy crap how did I miss this video
Already loved this gun now i want one even more!!!!
Why not get one, then?
Stimulus money is coming, the MDR is the best bullpup on the market, and this BLK LBL bipod handguard just pushes it over the top in its superiority over the competition.
If you are interested, the MDRxSE in 5.56 is less than $2000. If you look around, you can find them for $1700-$1800 new.
The side ejecting model offers A LOT of advantages. They completely redesigned and reengineered the internal mechanism, so it has a traditional side ejecting mechanism like an AR or Tavor, it takes less gas to run (thus less recoil), it has a bunch of reliability improvements, many users report getting even better accuracy from the side ejecting models, and the side ejecting model sheds half a pound of weight from the older MDR models.
Literally the only disadvantages are:
1) It's only for .223/5.56, so no .308, 6.5CM, or the larger full rifle calibers. The side eject apparently only works for the intermediate calibers.
2) It no longer ejects forward, but it is still quickly swappable for the ejection side.
If you want a 5.56 MDR, the MDRxSE side ejecting model is the way to go. It's cheaper and lighter as well.
@@LinkHyrule03 in the uk or i would silverback doing an airsoft version will be getting that and then if the move to the states is on in a few years grab one.
Just bought the Blk Lbl bipod for the x95. Really neat.
Yea that bipod Handguard ha just changed my mind on the mdr
I wish to have an MDR one day. Loved desert tech ever since the SRS. For now, ill keep using it in tarkov until I get my hands on the real deal
You have a stimulus check coming? Why not hop on before Biden passes more gun control?
You can find an MDRxSE in 5.56 for $1700-$1800 new if you look around.
@@LinkHyrule03 Do tell where you are looking. I ordered one from DT in December and am still waiting.
There's one thing about bullpups that never gets any attention. They are 1M times less annoying to climb through windows with. Or hatches in armored vehicles or doors in, well, anything. The back heft is actually a big plus when you have to aim upwards from the bottom of a staircase etc, because you can hold that aim basically forever without getting tired. Try it with an AK or FAL if you want to discover how quickly your aim suffers.
the _Thing_ is that bullpups are so much better in cities and vehicles than regular layout, and that is seriously important for anyone who will have to deal.
_And_ they can do that with the same effective range as long rifles.
Or even woods, and reeds, or just holding the rifle up in a ready position, or when you need to take a hand off to talk on the radio. Yes all can be accomplished with a carbine, but then you give up long range ballistics/terminal ballistics, and that is huge.
I own one and love ir. The advantages of bull pup over conventional are numerous.
Yesterday I was thinking that I wanna see the MDR again on timer, today Karl uploads the video. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Making that kettle bell look easy💪
Hey BLK-LBL... There are a lot of Tavor X-95s out there that could seriously benefit from this (I love the rifle, but the stock handguard kind of suck).
Karl, the great facilitator!
Anyone else here that’s sick of the MAC SVD controversy? I hope the truth comes out, whatever it is.
Thank God for InRangeTV and Forgotten Weapons!!! Great content, no bull$#!+
That is a slick setup. And I guess if you can afford a MDR/MDRX you can afford a $499 handguard/bipod.... I can't afford either :(
Compelling kit! Interesting Match! Well done.
Excellent video
God damn it, Karl. You're gonna make me buy an MDR
Wow, that is a really nice design...
With the integrated bipod, magnified optic and the drum mag this is almost like a good L86A1. All it's missing is a longer barrel and a fun switch.
And the jams
@@509Gman I guffawed. Cheers.
Definitely looking at getting one for my MDR
Oh, that cool gun is now even cooler.
Dying to see the MDR in 6mm ARC!
I really want an MDR. I have no idea why. Rule of cool primarily though I'm sure I can get plenty of work out of one of these provided I can get ammo. Gorgeous guns and their interactions with the community at large and InRange in particular give me the warm fuzzies about Desert Tech as a company.
The BLK bipod seems like a pretty obvious upgrade for it too.
Hopefully I can get one in a few years.
Why not use your stimulus check?
An MDRxSE in 5.56 can be had for $1700-$1800 new if you look around.
They need to make a x95/tavor7 version... I'd be willing to bet theres a lot more of those guns out there than the mdr.
That MDR looks more and more high tec as time goes on. Not quite a pulse rifle yet but definitely would fit in if found in say the Halo universe at this point.
Brooo that is sick! I'm gonna get that when/if I can get an MDRX.
Stimulus check?
An MDRxSE in 5.56 can be had for $1700-$1800 new if you look around.
@@LinkHyrule03 Ah not interested in 5.56 or side eject, but that's still good to know!
Omg finally a good hand guard for this gun
Looks like the bull pups are the go to rifle for these brutality challenges coz I see they don't kick up dust when firing in the prone position.
Ngl, the MDR with the exposed barrel is pretty sick looking.
I've shot mine that way while testing the gas system. The problem is, you still have the habit of reaching for it with your off hand....
I saw the promotion video on their channel and I instantly went to the website to buy it for my MDRX, but I saw the price tag of $499 and that instantly turned me away. I get that it’s a nice hand guard and I have no clue what all goes into making a hand guard like that so maybe I’m just naive, but I feel like $499 for a hand guard that will only ever work on the MDR series of rifles is a little much. Looks awesome though. Maybe they’ll go down in price eventually because it would be perfect for me.
Irishman has an aluminum handguard for the MDR for $299.00, but then buying a decent quality bipod for $99.00 and QD mount for another $65.00 and ending up with a bulky bipod setup that snags on everything when I am moving around.....this option is a lot easier to justify. Buy once, cry once.
I think the price point is a little off on the high side, but not by much. If you stop and consider the investment, infrastructure and man hours required, it's really not that expensive, even if it is a lot of money. And it honestly is a lot of money. 🤷♂️
$500 isn't bad at all considering not only are you getting a top-tier carbon fiber bipod that pans, tilts, and levels, but you're also getting a really nice aluminum handguard.
A nice carbon fiber bipod with pan, tilt, leveling, and an adjustable friction collar on its own will run you $400-$600.
A nice MDR aluminum handguard from Lucky Irishman on its own will run you $250-$300.
So already, you're coming ahead in price. Not only that, but the end result is FAR lighter than a handguard with a separate bipod AND the bipod is lower profile, which is an insane advantage. Bullpups struggle to accept bipods well because of how short they are. There is not enough room on such a short handguard to accommodate BOTH your hand and a bipod like there is on a long AR. But with this, you have a streamlined flush handguard that your hand can hold and you get no interference from the bipod. That alone is worth $500.
Their price aside, for the pure advantage of having a flush-fit bipod that isn't there when I don't want it, has ZERO disadvantages, but is still there when I need it, I'd easily pay $800. To me, this is a steal.
crazy you got the wolverine suppressor and now DT is coming out with the WVLVRN
Best Bullpup on the market?! Still waiting on you to test the M17s... Honestly I know it wont be as good as the MDR in many ways but it deserves some attention.
Pretty slick, my complaint would be the weight. 8.3 lb gun naked + 1 lb of optics + 1.2 lb supressor + 1.2 lb loaded mag + bipod = 12 lb gun.
Looks like a great piece of kit 👍👍
Powerful kettlebell throws. Imagine the glutes.
This makes the choice of my first rifle even harder, I can't decide whether I want an mdr in 6.5 cm or a wwsd build in 6.5 grendel. Thank god I don't have the money so I don't have to choose yet