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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Hey everyone! I just recently picked up MK1, and I've been having all sorts of fun with it. Definitely a game I'd recommend you pick up if you like slower fighting games, because there's a lot of sauce to be found here. The online isn't the best, but I'm willing to admit SF6 online has heavily spoiled me for the last few months. The online isn't that bad compared to other non-rollback methods of online fighting games.
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Idk how you casually just beat those kombo tutorials. That’s crazy. I could barely do a couple of liu Kangs. Props to you
My best guess is that I'm kind of a combo trial maniac 😅I've played many different fighting games, and if there are combo trials, I always like to try my hand at them. Perhaps it's just a lot of practice in combo execution?
@@Myloe Same, execution is among the most fun aspects of fighters.
Even then, Li Mei also got the best of me. After hitting the air fireball the dash up knee ender is super tight. Have you had any luck since?
They’re easy asf
Might wanna change your control settings, sometimes things like release check and input window can mess up special canceling and your inputs during combos
“Street fighter player” do you understand how many buttons you have to press to land a combo on sf comparative to mk1 ? Mk1 is probably like scratching his ass ☠️ ( I hate sf spammy asf
To casually hop on and beat combo trials is honestly impressive. Very interesting to hear cause a lot of MK players have more gripes because they are used to certain things
The one thing I like about the recent MK games is their tutorials and move lists are very detailed, they covered nearly all mechanics and how frame data works, lots of other fighting games and earlier MK games don't do that
what modern fighting games don’t have that in their tutorial?
@@r.i.petika829 I don't remember street fighter and tekken games have it when I still play them many years ago
@@r.i.petika829 Frame data? like most of them bud🤣
everyone that replied with a smartass comment is weird as
sure mainstream titles are expected to have these features but its a far leap to say every fighting game nowadays has as much informative content as Mk1 has
I came from Dragonball Fighterz, so I can really feel it when you say that the game is pretty slow paced compared to what you’re used to. Even though it’s a fighting game, it feels completely different, but that the neat thing. It’s a fun learning experience and a way to broaden your perspective on things.
😂that r2 blocking fucking me up. I just wanna press back
Oh man, I can't even imagine how drastic that change must have been like, from DBFZ to MK1. I jope you like it though! I agree that playing different fighting games of different styles can really help open your mind to other games you never knew you'd enjoy. It's fun 😁
Mk is the best fg
@@jupiterjaheim6550 Seriously, I keep super dashing when playing with my friends 😬
Tekken was more of a change for me. Going from MK9 to injustice (the first one, not the second one) to MK11 to SF6 to DBFZ to Tekken is a ride.
(I played a lot more fighting games back in the day, but these are the recent ones that are also in the "more recent" category.)
It is so cool to hear the opposite perspective. I'm an MK playing trying SF for the first time with SF6 and man on the surface this game feels so damn mashy. Everything feels non-committal with unclear windows for punishing things outside specials. In MK I feel like neutral is very straightforward when it comes to the passing back and forth of frame advantage. If MK is a tennis game where plus frames are the ball, then SF feels like high level ping-pong. Anti-airing someone and then immediately getting mashed on with a 4f button was eye-opening. Like wut..I hit YOU! How is it YOUR TURN!? I honestly don't get how people say MK is the scrubby fighting game, these characters have GIMMICKS in SF.
So yeah, still learning how to approach neutral in SF but one thing I am enjoying though is combos. The combos are much shorter, and with much more resources needed for damage but man some of these conversions have my hand hurting. Oh you didn't confirm that hit in .5 nano seconds? DROPPED! Though, I think it's just getting used to lack of actual strings and having to deal with "links". They're coming together steadily.
Hope to see an update soon about whatever new shit you discover on your journey bud! Like some new busted kameo paring for your sub. I actually would like to steer you in the direction of Goro. He gives sub combo potential off of his back 3, 4 and let's you make this b2 overhead PLUS on block!
I loved reading about your journey into SF, this awesome. It really is just growing pains of moving from one fighting game to the next eh? I'm excited to keep playing around with Sub, and Goro is actually a Kameo I've been looking to lab a bit of combos with! Thanks for the recommendation 😁
From personnal experience I figured that MK is all about mixups Overhead/lows with combos that you can dial in advance, whereas SF is all about shimmy and (almost) frame perfect execution. I feel that sometimes its ok to mash in SF to guarantee that your EX move comes out, for exemple. MK feels a lot more like a rhythm game once you open the opponents defense. Tech-ing feels a lot simpler in SF though, even though the timing is a lot stricter.
@@Myloe Paulo Garcia himself confirmed the ex clone is bugged during a Tom Brady's stream. I think you just were a bit too ate for this specific conversation and don't follow/know the MK heads.
@@BeedjiI think you might be on to something there. Dropping a combo in MK is most often because you mistimed it, failed the "rhythm". SF feels like I wasn't fast enough, not to say there isn't some precision timing that's needed with certain things where mashing will cause it to drop.
Definitely agree with the mixup focus from MK. I was actually shocked to find that you really can just block low 99% of the time in SF. I think that's why I think it feels so much slower for me because you can be in a footsies battle for centuries. Like please someone get hit!
MK players all hate it too for the most part. But I think it's a necessary evil to have to guess the throw direction because unlike SF, you can duck throws in MK for FULL punishes. If teching was also easier I feel like we wouldn't see them used past a certain level of play because it's so much risk for little reward. On top of OS ducking being a thing making it even RISKIER for certain characters that lack a fast mid to check people.
@@Myloe goro is the best cameo for sub, it gives you armor slide launcher, launchers from f123, b34 and saves your b2
Traditional fighting game fan talking positively about MK is a blessing and rarely seen.
I always find it's better to look at the positives than the negatives! Sure there are a few things that don't jive perfectly with me in MK1, but overall, I'm still learning. I like to take in as much as I can, and rather than get frustrated by something that I don't understand, I like to learn about it and what my options are to deal with it 😁
I'm glad you enjoyed the video
Both games are extremely fun! It was nice hearing your positive review 👍😎
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I find video games are a lot more fun when you focus on the cool fun stuff than if you're always talking about the lame bad stuff. Funny how that works hahaha
Sub Zero’s EX Ice Clone got changed in the last balance patch - it’s a straight up nerf where the opponent no longer hits all three and freezes, they just get frozen on the first one. people immediately noticed it, but the thing is that this move was not a problem… nobody is sure whether the change was intentional or a bug, and as far as I know NRS hasn’t confirmed one way or another. that’s probably the reason you couldn’t find anyone talking about it, because there’s nothing to talk about unless we hear that the change was intended. if it was intended, then what the fuck, and if it wasn’t intended, the change will get reverted whenever the next patch comes out.
It's apparently been changed back already! People in these comments have said it was not meant to be that way, they just messed up while tweaking it in the last patch
@@Myloe oh good, thank god it got reverted. that change was so unnecessary lol good thing it was a bug!
W content kinda of a underrated vid I stumbled across but gl bro
Thank you for the kind words! I really like to analyze the games I play, and fighting games are always asking for a bit of analysis, especially if you come from a different fighting game series into a brand new one!
That would be so cool if the ice clone triple bounced or something off a corner combo. They should consider adding that, would be swaggy.
it failing to work that way is a glitch. it has since been fixed on the season 2 patch, so it works now
It used to
The ice clone is a bug thats been around since the first true balance patch unfortunately. They still didnt fix it after this newest update apparently
it is fixed in the omniman update mate, I'm on pc btw...
I'm an SF player and was looking into MK1 if it was discounted this Black Friday, this was the exact kind of thing I needed! Great vid
Thank you! I'm glad you were able to get something out of it, and if you do end up picking up the game, I wish you the best of luck! It's such a fun game to play online, and so many of the characters have fun stuff to lab and play around with when it comes to their options and the assists they can all take advantage of 😄
An actual non-toxic comment from a sf player about mk1, that is great! Objective analysis. I honestly like it👍 wish more people were like this dude.
I appreciate the kind words! I always find it’s better to focus on the positives and just have fun with new games. I don’t wanna get mad at something I don’t understand, I wanna learn how it works and find a way to play against it 😁 That’s one of my favourite parts of fighting games! No need for negativity 👌
Man casually beats combo trials casually and I'm over here like "Hur dur, find the combo pieces."
While im not an expert in MK1 (super low tier kasual) there is two thing id like to reflect on your video: If you having a hard time finding openings as Sub, try Kung Lao as a kameo. He has a low hat spin which can be delay and the player can confuse the enemy with the overhead launcher (b2). Kung Lao has no combo extensions, so the damage is extremely low (average 240-310 / combo) but its easier for experienced players to find openings so the small combos adds up.
The other thing is the ice clone glitch. For some reason, NRS avoids Sub Zero since release. Sub is considered one of the weakest characters in the game. Sub Zero is a massively popular character in the franchise and barely anyone using it on higher leves, he has no appearance in e-sports. We, Sub mains waiting for a buff for 2 months straight now, lol.
Btw, cool video! I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for the kind words! Goro and Kung Lao are kameos I've been looking to experiment with actually. It's clear to me that Sareena isn't really ideal for Sub anyways, I just used her to dip my toes into the game. Thanks for the recommendation 🙏
Not to be that guy, but Lao's forward kameo(the spin) is a launcher that leads to really good damage for Sub. You can do it basically anytime you would normally do an EX ground freeze to combo. Though it tends to whiff after a 12
Sub's lower damage generally happens due to all of his freezes scaling tf out of the combos, but any kameo that lets you launch without a freeze lets you do a lot more damage.
I just uploaded a very detailed Sub-Zero breakdown/combo guide on my tiny ass channel if any of you Sub players are interested in learning more about him. I tried to cram as much info as I could and keep it accessible to all skill levels
@@MyloeGoro is fun since you get to full combo off of B34, F123, and EX slide. Or you can use his Back Kameo (the grab) to get meterless combos off of openings. He doesn't really help you create openings, but is pretty fun to use when you get the openings lol
And I would actually say Sareena is one of the better kameos for Sub cuz she helps you control the screen from the midrange which is generally where Sub wants to be until you get a freeze or something. And she obviously helps him get more damage than he usually can get otherwise lmao
Lao is probly his best kameo overall though, but there are a lot of fun options. Sonya gives fun combo extensions too
actually the ex ice clone now works. It was right after the omni man update i think. It worked for me thankfully
FaZe Jev plays sub and he has talked about the bug with the ex clone in his videos
Thx for making this video, this is helpful to me as a MK main lookinh to get into SF6. The worlds are very different. SF6 combo trial doesn't seem to be as descriptive as MK1, which is disappointing because the combo trials in MK1 are actually broken. And yes, MK1 is so slow compared to SF6, but that gives greater emphasis to defensive playing.
I totally agree! While the speeds between games are similar, the speed they each have really helps play towards the strengths of both games
@@Myloe What do you recommend for getting better at combos in SF6? Because the tutorial doesn't tell me how to perform the moves on screen. Do I really have to sift through the menu to find out what the move is and how to do it? MK1's combo challenge has at least a rough estimate of which buttons I need to press, rather than listing names of the moves
In SF6's start menu during combo trials, you can change the way combo trials are displayed! It probably defaulted to show move names rather than input instructions, but you can change it to show you inputs instead in the start menu.
In the start menu, there is an option called "Trial Display Method" and you can change it from "Move Name Display" to "Command Display". I hope this helps
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interesting to see how an sf player feels making their way into mk. I bought sf6 and played til mk dropped. I made diamond and couldn't play anymore cuz i wanted to keep my blood pressure low
Mk1 is an interesting game. In time youll see the negatives of the game that are still being ironed out but gameplay wise it is a mass improvement from mk11.
Also the sub zero ex ice clone is a bug. A dev came out and said it isnt suppose to do that post- patch lol
Sub zero has the majority of the nerfs. All they gotta do now is lower his health.
Man didn't choose a top tier character and went with one of the worst characters in the game just because he looked cool. He's a real one
I’ve always been a fan of playing the characters I think look the coolest haha. Happy to see someone else appreciates it 😁
Me and you share the same mortal kombat journey, almost beat by beat. I landed on sub-zero as well😂
That's awesome haha. Maybe Sub Zero is the character a lot of SF players land on?? 🤔
Nice video man! Glad this was recommended. I was in your position but from a switched perspective when sf6 came out
Thanks 😁 I always like to hear about how people in one fighting game feel transitioning into a new fighting game series, so I thought I'd share my experience too!
The Sub amplified shadow clone is currently broken, it SHOULD work the way it used to but it’s bugged and they’ll probably patch it soon, or maybe they already have idk
According to some of these comments, it was patched to work normally again as of the Omni Man update 😁 I have yet to experiment haha
I started playing subzero this season and i agree on how he isn't great at finding openings as a few of the other characters. Smoke has mix ups that easily lead to big combos😊
Smoke mix ups are fake.
Yes, the EX Ice clone was an accident
I just thought it was so funny. I haven't tested it since, but I'm sure they fixed it with the patch that added Omniman. If not, they'll probably fix it soon haha
@@MyloeThey fixed it long before they added omni man I think. At least on PS5, not sure about PC
Welcome to MK, its always dope to hear a newcomer experience, especially if come from another fighting game, and also especially if its as positive sounding as yours was!
Also Sub is a cool character, and i actually just put out an exhaustively long form overview/combo guide on my channel if youre interested in learning more about the character.
But either way, you got a sub from me and ill be checking out your content!
Hey thank you so much for the kind words! I always love branching into fighting games I haven't played much of before, and MK1 gave me a great experience! I will 100% check out your sub guide today!
@@Myloe No problem! And yo same. I started with Smash 4, got into Injustice 2 and then been into the MK and Smash scene ever since, but also tend to try out all the new fighting games at this point. Still haven't made the jump to Street Fighter yet tho lol.
But its dope that you had such a great experience with MK! I hope it continues to be that way dude
And yoooo thats awesome of you! I hope you like it/find it informative!
Wow, you are the only person who was ever trying to use EX clone. Developers know about this situation. They will fix i...t one day
I just like to put swag in my combos sometimes 😭😭 I know it's not that good of a move haha, but I play Sub Zero for the cool flashy stuff anyway
I'm pretty sure the ex ice clone is bugged but ion know. That came out about a few weeks ago so either they knew about it or it was a shadow nerf because the ice clone never was mentioned in the patch notes
Welcome to MK, where developers and the community hate sub-zero.
If you want a faster and, arguably, fuller Mortal Kombat game try MK XL. That game is extremely fats but fun to learn. Is not as fast as Dragon Ball Fighterz, but you'll feel like Flash in comparison to other fighting games.
I’ve been told so much that MKX is the way to go, and I’m really considering giving it a shot now 😁 Even if it is older and probably harder to find matches in, I want to give it a shot
Yessss ima sub main I’ve been stomping.
Sub Zero was just insanely overpowered during beta. Combos dealt insane damage from every connection, zoning was out of this world, clones were constantly covering the screen. They ended up trying to nerf everything he had and overnerfing him in the process. He is bound to get changed at some point in the near future. And yes, the triple clone used to bounce properly.
I don't know they haven't buffed him yet. I had to drop him because once I hit champion rank winning became such a hastle. I want them to buff him, I just don't know if they plan to sense they haven't yet and they've already buffed a few characters.
He probably not a big priority.
@@hands-ongaming7180 Well he should be!!
That notification for unlocking stuff for characters I don't own really pisses me off. I'm glad I'm not the only one lmao
I honestly cannot believe it’s still a thing. It’s ridiculous! It doesn’t incentivize me to buy the characters either, it just makes me upset lol
I am a tournament player and ill tell you no one talking about Subs glitches and clone problems because hes bottom tier with the most offensive issues out of any characters. His clone is the worst it's ever been in mortal kombat games. Beta sub had a 3.5 second clone with 1second of recovery where you could use it as corner pressure and counter Rushdown oppressive chars but its punishable on reaction with nearly every character and some kameos.
MKTomBrady talked about this glitch to EX Clone but the move is useless anyways hecause its 2BARS and still punishable.
Im hoping Sub gets buffs, i use Ashrah, Sindel, SubZero, Reptile, Geras and Tanya and I've used all characters to learn matchup. I'd main Sub Zero if not fir how bad they nerfed him. He has so many safeguard and flaws to only have half the cast do everything he did Beta but better & still do!!!
I love playing Sub Zero, but even just messing around with Kitana has shown me that Sub Zero is missing a lot haha. The thing is he's still stylish and cool, and that's 90% the reason I like to play any character in the first place. Doesn't matter much to me how good/bad his options are, I'll use them 'til I get sick of them!
@@Myloe I get that but it's important to me because tournament players don't let you get away with much, everything he has is punishable. Clone is punishable from poke on hit let alone on block. It's reactable.
His Divekick is UpBlockable on reaction.
12, 21, 122, 212, B34, 34, F123 all have armor gaps.
That leaves F12 and BF2 clone push. They can jump kick punish BF2 and F12 is -7 ending your turn unless you do a very punishable clone off it.
Hope he gets buffs
It would be cool to see him buffed. I'd like to see him get a little bit of time in the sun with MK1 yet
Love the skullgirls music in the background
This is one of my favourite tracks from Skullgirls 😁 The music in that game kicks ass
Negative Edge is ON by default as far i remember, some combos aren't easy with that option ON.
I should have mentioned that. I turned off negative edge almost immediately upon visiting the settings for the first time and it made everything a lot smoother
I'd suggest going to practice settings and selecting the show frame data option for Sub Zero's respective kombo strings/specials. The reason for this as the move list data is somewhat incomplete for whatever reason. Ideally this should be fixed eventually but you're never too safe to be sorry here.
I've discovered this since the making of this video! I love the show frame data option, it's very helpful
It is funny because I struggle with SF combos and gameplay whereas am a beast with MK1 and find the combos so easy.
And I’m completely the other way around! It’s crazy how we can be so hard wired to play one game and the others become more difficult as a side effect haha
Cool seeing different perspectives on my favorite game
That block button on mortal Kombat games... Hate that shit.
It took me so long to use a button to block on reflex 😂 I just be standing there taking free hits sometimes because I'm so NOT used to button blocking.
I played dbfz and I learn mk1 quickly.
Nice! These games are super different, that's pretty impressive. Perhaps going from such a fast paced game to such a slow paced game is what helped you get into MK1 so quickly?
Most positive mk 1 review
on a similar experience with going from ggst and sf6 to mk1 and while i am trying to get into it the movement just feels unbearably sluggish but i am enjoying it most of the time
I definitely feel you there. There really isn't a quick way to move around, and often i find I get antsy to move closer to the opponent and just use Sub Zero dive kick 😂
@@MyloeWorth looking up wavedashing in MK1, essentially you can wavedash by cancelling a dash into a block and alternating between them, characters like Johnny straight up glide across the screen with this technique
Glad you like it lol
Good video. Just felt like you should have gone a lil more In depth about how mk differs from sf
I might do that in the future. The way combos work, the speed of the gameplay, etc, there's a lot to talk about there! SF and MK are two very different fighting games, and I'd say detailing the differences could be a very good video on it's own.
@@Myloe ^ This.
@@Myloe yea that was what i was expecting of this video. Would love to watch it
@@Myloe i would love to see that detailed comparison aswell ... currently playing MK but im seriously want to pick up SF6 ...and im trying to find somewhat detailed comparison ibetween these two .
The enhanced sub freeze should work fine now it was a bug they fixed after a couple days I think they tweaked the scaling or hit box and it messed up the second clone in air combos for whatever reason
Thank god haha, I thought it would probably get fixed soon 👌
Almost Every move in Mk is hit confirmable and can Combo. Street fighter having to put together “links” is incredibly tedious especially online when you can miss an input by half a millisecond.
Yeah a lot of moves are confirmable into combos, I just meant the down 1 doesn't really have combo potential outside of probably cancelling it into a special move. Meanwhile SF6 crouch jab can lead into as big a combo as you mean to spend resources on. Just trying to highlight the differences between the games, I'm not trying to speak about MK1 with any sort of authority. I'm still quite new to the series haha
@@Myloe as a long time NRS player; although I find SF to sometimes be tedious and annoying with input timings I do believe SF6 is a far better well rounded fighting game. As a “fighting game” you capcom guys defiantly have a foot up for sure.
Still skeptical on buying MK1 because of the issues it's been facing since launch
The skullgirls music 😍😍😍
I’m in love with this song!
Let’s see some general shao
EX ice klone got nerfed to oblivion. don't use it, ever
the ice clone was a bug and they patched it thankfully
Other people have definitely talked about subs enhanced clone not connecting. It’s a big. One that I thought they fixed
I think they have a of the Omni Man update. That's what a few of these comments have been saying at least.
good channel
Thanks!
w subzero gives me hope for my character
Sub Zero is so much FUN! I love playing him so much, it's honestly taken away from me even experimenting with other characters lmao. He's just such a great character to play as for me
1:20 I did all the trials, but that one Nitara's combo in the air was the most impossible for me
Yes! That one was another that I struggled with for quite a while before I finally got it down. After I did though, I kept going until I could do it another two or three times, because it's so cool and fun to pull off when you get the timings down. Nitara is a crazy character
what a mad lad 🫡
MK just always feel really clumsy to me, like the animations don’t flow into one another and there’s a little gap in between transitions.
Yeah I do kind of agree with that. I’ve mostly not tried mk before this video because the visual were never very striking to me. Mk1 still feels a little bit like that, but I do think it’s much better than even mk11 was, plus the air combos and assist combos really got me wanting to try it out
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the sub zero triple ice clone is bugged right now, it's supposed to hit but it's bugged.
The subzero ice clone was a bug that’s been fixed already, also everyone was talking about this bug idk how you didn’t find anyone talking about it
I don't knoe how I didn't see it either 😂 I've been watching all sorts of MK1 content and looking it up on reddit and I wasn't seeing anything haha. Good to know I'm noy crazy and other people know what's going on lol
Interesting, I've been an MK player for a decade and MK1 personally looked so ass when they teased it that I bought Sf6 and have been playing that since. Its crazy how the same game looks to different people.
I totally agree! I’ve gotten a lot of comments from disgruntled MK players about MK1 but as a new player to the series I find that I’m really enjoying my time with it. It makes me wonder what I’ve been missing out on with the MK games people really loved. Might have to go back and check some of them out too 👀
Yeah nah li meis combo is ridiculous fr
MKs biggest issue is speed, the game play is slow, its the only fighting game i feel i need to wait my turn to fight back.....i hate that, but mk1 is the best game so far. Hopefully they can being back the speed of mk10 amd keep the feel and look of mk1.
Is this moist cr1tikal on a hidey?
I know this video is 3 weeks old but multiple people talked about the SubZero ice clone issue almost the same hour it dropped for 2 days straight. Maybe you were not looking in the right places 🤔
I guess not 😅😅 Many people have told me it was widely known, I guess the players I watch just didn’t talk about it in the videos/streams I was watching at the time lol
@@Myloe that's because the players you watch probably don't play subzero cuz he had no damage 😂
That is almost certainly the case 🤣
I’m LMFAO I clicked on this video while playing watched a bit saw u talk abt kombo trials reminded me to complete li Mei’s 7th one…a char who’s in my top 2 and couldn’t do it came back to the video and found u couldn’t do it either 😭 I swear that shit is unreal feels better to my ego at least that someone who’s really good at these trials and a completionist like u couldn’t knock it out either lol gonna take me a min to get that one down forsure
That combo trial is ridiculous 😂 I still haven't gone back to complete it, but one day I'm just gonna sit down and pound it out until I get it down!
Did you play tekken? I'm trying mortal kombat as a tekken fan and man, aerial combos and 2d mechanics are not easy coming from a 3d experience
I've played quite a bit of Tekken 7 although not very recently. The thing is my roots have always been in 2D fighters myself, as SF4 was my starting place. To me, Tekken and it's third dimension has always taken me a bit to get used to myself, so I can completely understand it being difficult coming at it from the other side. 2D fighters and 3D fighters are two very different beasts.
MK1 is the first MK I can take at least semi seriously
Complete opposite for me.💀
for me MK1 is the first FG i take semi seriously and now looking to get SF6 as it looks faster and more fun.
@@marekbabik2791 and it’s on Black Friday sale to boot
@@marekbabik2791Better game, MK1 is garbo sauce.
Killer Instinct is still the best fighter graphically, combos, counters and speed. Personally beats MK and SF6 for me.
Since it became free to play recently, I’ve really been meaning to give it a try! I’ve never played a KI game before actually, so I’m sure there’s a lot of fun waiting to be had 😁
Ive been mostly an MK and Smash Bros player but recently picked up Tekken and SF6. Havent looked back at mk1 since- especially with how overly monetized the game is.
SF just feels so much more precise and dynamic. Tekken is super complex for a newbie and very technical in terms of spacing and understanding frame data, but it feels great.
But MK1 just feels too slow. I always feel like im “waiting my turn”. Animations look weird and floaty. Not a fan of the kameo system currently but Ill admit this could be more of me needing to experiment. MK movement feels so limited and slow, contrasted with crazy fast moves and mixups that lead to overly long, boring combos. FB has always been a bad mechanic and the fact that it recharges so fast now makes it worse.
That said, it’s miles better than MK11 gameplay wise. But unfortunately, it is still a game i only will ever play single player and never break 30 hours on.
These are all valid criticisms in my opinion. Personally I don't mind a slower fighting game here and there, but you're right about having to wait for long combos to end, and fatal blows coming back to quickly. I'm kind of excited to see what changes as the game continues to develop though!
fatal blows are the worst mechanic ever in FG genre in my opinion ...the cinematic is interesting maybe just the first time ....as are fatality ... brutality on the other hand are the best finishers ....but MK1 is first FG i take semi seriously ..but now im looking at SF6 ..want to pick it up as it looks more fluent and dynamic ...with a lot more like string combinations which are not that many and really limited in MK ... but funny thing is ... when i first picked MK1 ...it was and kind of still is quiet fast ( except waiting the damn turn specially against Johny) and SF6 looked funny to me ....but now i want to pick it up and give it a try ... as it looks much more entertaining after u get the mechanics ...also moves looks really great compare to MK1(which feels kind of a robotic). But i wont stop playing MK1 by any means .
You should really try li Mei she’s my main and her with scorpion like the bare minimum you would get out of that is 45 percent and she’s just fun to play with
sub zero's iceclone-ex bug is fairly old news now, and should have been patched out already since i see it sometimes online, very strange if u still see it but ofc idk when this footage was recorded
The footage is a little old. I believe it's been patched as of the Omniman update 👌
I like this video a lot, thanks for sharing!
You're welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed watching it 😇
I play both but ever since MK1 came out I haven’t played SF6 😂
That's awesome haha. I still find I spend more time with SF6, but I'm trying to keep muscle memory and game feel alive with MK1 so I don't just lose what I've learned. It's really fun playing MK1 online, even if some of the connections aren't the best haha
that final Li Mei combo took me like 50-60 tries its so overly specific
little tip, you want to do the dash 3 from F4 dash 3, DB3 kameo, as early as you can and do the kameo as late as you can. You want to maximize their height gained from the updog ;) db3 and the time between that and the kameo hitting so you can get a full dash jump in.
the last part I have no help it was complete rng for me because the timing was so specific on the dash and the back 3. I did use the trick of doing B3F4 instead of B3 BF4, i think that might have helped a bit
the demo shows it being done the hard way, it can be done easier the way I described above ^
thats why you may notice it looks different when you follow my advice
I wanna go back and complete it, especially now that with the Omni Man update, every character has another trial to complete. I want to get them all done!!
@@Myloe a lot of the number 8's are easier than the number 7's lol, its all fatal blow confirms
Haha fair enough, that's too bad. I'll probably still go in and complete them all, and it functions as a good excuse for me to try li mei's again anyway haha
MK1 combos arent that hard until you start optimizing and incorporating variables like positions and other advanced techniques to properly time a launcher or catch with a juggle.
4:40. Maybe that's why NRS games are better for me than some other fighting games. I'm bad at fighting games, with the only one I feel confident in being Smash. But I did grind Injustice 2 for a a while and got decent
It's also nice coming from smash and finding a fighting game that uses a block button like smash does! I totally feel you. I think MK is a great series to start with branching out of smash bros into other fighting games 👌
tthey fixed the xfreeze combo
They did indeed! I almost never go for a combo with this move anyways, but now that it works, I do occasionally choose style over damage/practicality by using ex freeze haha. I just like how it looks, it's a pretty unnecessary move overall 😂
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Nice video! Which of the two games do you like better and why? Which game is harder to get good at? Also hope to see some Sub Zero Kombat League footage!
I might do a kombat leage video yet, stay tuned!
Also I don't think I'm deep enough to really say which game is harder to improve in. Personally I still play and prefer SF6, but atm it's largely because I'm a huge SF nerd qnd have been playing the series for years. It's hard to say one is better than the other when the two are so different. I'm just a Street Fighter kind of guy 😁
funny thing is, i feel like leaving MK1 for SF6 or Third Strike.
I think they've patched the ice clone thing. I struggle when the game asks you to press two normals at the same time, (I think i'm saying that right? like Y+X in a combo, for example.) any tips? nice video dude, interesting perspective as i've grown up on MK (this is the first one i've taken serious though)
When they're asking you to press Y+X in a combo, they just want you to grab. It might not be the easiest thing to do mid combo, but maybe in the settings you could bind a key that acts as pressing them both? I know you can do that in SF, but I haven't checked the controls screen in MK1 for anything like that. If you can make grab a single button input, that might help you out!
you can just press the grab button when it says to press 2 buttons at the same time in a combo
Oh perfect, that's what I was hoping was in this game. A grab button that works the same as pressing the two of them together. It should be a lot easier to get the grab part of the combo if you don't need to focus on hitting two simultaneously
If I had to choose mk1 vs sf6 which would you recommend? I'm used to SC6 and MK11.
If you're used to MK11, I'd say MK1 is probably what U would recommend. But purely from my own interests, I'd probably recommend SF6 because I love it so much haha
Yoo whats crazy is i was the same way just the other way around 😂😂😂 I’ve been playing mk since 2015 and i tried sf6 when it dropped earlier this year. So i understand what you’re talking about 😂
It is very interesting switching between the two! I've been having a ton of fun playing both lately, and I intend keep playing them both moving forward, although SF6 will definitely remain my more competitive game.
Also could never complete Li meis last kombo lol. Had to give
If you enjoy MK1, the you definitely would have enjoyed MK X and MK11, but it’s too late for those, especially MKX :(
I’m so sure I would have. Seeing how much I enjoyed MK1, I just know I would have loved what MKX was already doing back in the day
i felt the same way
The ice clone is a known bug check out mk Tom Brady I think he talked about it
The sub zero klone one is a bug sadly
Did you try invasions
I did actually! I completely forgot to mention it in this video, but honestly I found the mode a little boring myself. Some cool parts for sure, but it's not for me haha
I think mk1 is easier to play, comparing to ST6; this is why I prefer mk1.
Ist Not the trial, ex ice clone doesnt work singe the update period
Honestly thoe play Johnny or smoke, sub is super limited.
I've definitely noticed, especially in watching other people's videos on how to play him better, that he is a pretty limited character. The thing is I like him too much, and I think he's way too cool for me to quit hahaha. He's my guy. Probably gonna second Kitana tbh whenever I want to play another character.
Sub Zero is a cool character but man they did him dirty
They really did! I still love to play him, but just a little bit of time playing around with Kitana, I can tell Sub Zero is LACKING options pretty badly. Regardless, I don't think I'll drop him for a while yet. No matter what he's flashy and stylish, and that's the biggest reason I pick any of my characters in fighting games to begin with!
5:00 you are not the only one suffering
I hope they patch that soon 😅 I have no intention of buying Shang Tsung
Cool Myloe!!! :D
Keep on fighting! :)
Thanks!! I will 😇
PC version of this game is notoriously bugged and Sub Zero mechanics are intentionally hamstrung.
I main Li Mei and cannot do her last one either everyone else's seems easy ish too
Good to know I'm not the only one struggling there 😅