Best thing of episode 10 was Walter Koenig voicing Anton Chekov. A nice tribute to the original cast and crew of the original series and a nice tribute to Anton Yelchin who passed away to early.
It wasn't just Picard's offer to sacrifice himself with Jack that convinced him to return. When Picard was connected to the collective, Jack could sense his thoughts and feelings and could sense Picard's love and desire to be a father to him. He realized he really wasn't alone.
How do you know that? Why did Jack even want to be a Borg, and not just want to join a gang or take drugs, or do all the things that rebellious sons do? What did we see in Jack to make us feel like he wanted to be in the Borg? Does he want to go back and deliver drugs to sick people?
@@valueofnothing2487 I think Jack always felt alone and the borg queen capitalised on that. Also the fact that Jack is a kid he didn't realise he wouldn't be able to just assassinate the Queen. So his hubris kinda screwed him too
@@valueofnothing2487 the collective connects thoughts so he would have been able to easily sense if Picard was lying. As for Jack he didn't want to be borg but he did want to Show the borg that he wasn't their plaything and had planned to shoot the Queen dead. But he was unable to do so which she mocked him for and thus she assimilated him.
@@jtkirkfan2002 I thought that was just part of the flashback that I wasn't buying to begin with. Picard barely knows who Jack is. A few conversations at a bar.
This was the best most heartwarming ending to such an incredible series ❤️, it was everything I hoped for and more. Truly a love letter to all the fans around the world.
Seeing all of the old crew together again was beyond magical. What a great sequel for TNG. They gave us exactly what we wanted. Even the old ship! So good.
Strongly disagree. Season 3 was poorly written and threw out all of the storyline progression of the prior two seasons. It had all of the "feels" but no coherent story or plot structure. I'm honestly a little offended that they gave us this to finish off the series.
@@jonathanmartin6608here’s also that niggling little detail of upwards of 100k Starfleet personnel dying in the battle (multiple people have done the math) that just get glossed right over so the crew can have a few laughs over drinks and poker. They spent half an episode whining about Wolf 359 and implying trauma for the few survivors, and then multiply the death count significantly and don’t even acknowledge it. Like nearly everyone these people knew from their entire careers *not* on the Enterprise were more than likely dead, also, but hey, happy ending, right?
ah yes, weak, spineless, useless, shivering Piccard is exactly what I wanted to see. Killing ALL borgs with one bobmb and power of love is just cringe. old Data... lol they tried to play our nostalgia, but forgot to hire decent screenwriters
I always liked Riker, but I have gained new found respect for his abilities. Dr. Crusher has finally spread her wings and boy did Gates McFadden show up this series well done!
I will be forever grateful to Terry Malalas for this damn near perfect season to TNG, and to giving a PROPER send-off to this crew. Terry, you are forever locked into Star-Trek history now and forever.
Thank you Terry matalas! Thank you to Gene Roddenberry for seeing where humanity could go. These past few years of Covid have shown humanity in all its darkness. This ending of the show shows us all that there is glimmers of hope even when darkness seems to have destroyed it. The ending shows also as a species, humanity is one big family mirroring our real lives today. Valuable lessons for everyone😊😊
I want to see more so bad. Star Trek hasn't been the same or hasn't been this good since the cancellation of all the TNG, Voyager, DS9, series. I want that timeline to continue. When Picard came out, this continues all their journeys. Not a reboot. This series deserve to move on and I hope the writers, producers, and all the higher ups can make it happen. Please? So many touching moments. Yes, I shed tears as well. Everything made sense in the end. The series "wow'ed" me where I literally just shouted out, "WOW!!!" You see what you did? You got that to come out of me and that's when you know, you got something good going on. Just terrific!
Major tears for me in the finally. I bet mostly the old loving fans were the ones to wait for the credits to end hoping there was one more little fix of STNG to send us off, and there sure was. Q didnt disappoint! Damn I want more!!!!
I think the bottle is finally dry. We're very lucky to have gotten another chance after 30 years. It shows how good the original series was that they'd bring it back one last time and with such an awesome conclusion.
The last season of Picard was the best of all three. It would be nice to see a new series with Seven of nine. I wish they would have brought Janeway in the final season.
Absolutely loved season 3 but I'm confused about one thing. Did nothing from season 2 carry over? At the end of S2, there's a new Borg Queen. So where did this S3 queen come from? I wish we also knew more about how the Changelings and S3 Borg hooked up. Any theories about this would be most appreciated. Live long and prosper. 🖖
The borg are transtemporal and different collectives can exist in alternate timelines with different queens The borg in season 3 are the original borg from the prime timeline that we encounter in next gen
So no one is gonna mention how Borg Queen merged with Dr Jurati at the season 2? Did I miss something? And secondly, what happened to Laris? Was she dumped by Picard?We will never Know😅😅😅
That Queen was from a different timeline. She's from the timeline where Picard's ancestor never discovered the microbes and Adam Soong somehow turned Earth into a fascist dystopia with the shield from Highlander 2. This Queen is the same one we've seen in First Contact and the Voyager finale. They never explained how she returned after seeing a different Queen for a while but this is her
So we have seen 4 Queens destroyed. First contact, Season 2 Picard (which actually gave us some insight into how the Borg Queen comes about) , the Queen from END Game, and This Incarnation. She is essentially a central processor, and whenever one is destroyed then the role is transferred to another drone who becomes the queen. This queen said she had been left rotting at the edge of the galaxy by Picard, She didn’t seem to have any knowledge of the pathogen inflicted by Janeway, or of the queen transported to the alternate dimension by Q. So to me that suggests she was on one of the cubes en route to Earth in First Contact and severely damaged which was then cut off from the collective as a whole, but was able to maintain the temporal link with the sphere, and when the temporal signal from that queen halted, she was activated on a damaged ship already removed from the whole, and began to cannibalize the remainder of the cube until she happened upon a changeling. The Jurati/Queen Hybrid started as queen from the prime timeline she was also taken to the alternate timeline, when they first found her she was the Borg equivalent of insane, until she got on the ship and used it to help her organize her self and adapt. Just my theory on it, but i dont think the Borg are gone.
Skip Season 1 and 2. of Picard. it's not required. Writing so bad I find it hard to believe they even knew what a Sci-Fi story is. Season 3 , Great Writing. Respect to the genre, lore and fans. The best Star Trek story in a decade. Pity there won't be more.
I agree that season 3 is by far the best. But I did go back and rewatch season 2. And I have to say, after rewatching it. It was kind of interesting and I don't call it season 2, I call it season Q.
the whole story of season 2 should have taken no more than three episodes (one episode for the alternate earth future and two episodes forvthe time travel plot).. making it a whole season and 90% of it back in the 'past' made it feel even less like star trek than any other series.. hell, stargate feels more like star trek than picard season 2. as for season 1.. its not bad.. probably should have been a movie instead of a season.. but still watchable. season 3 though... up there with the dominion war as some of the best trek ever written imo
@@WyattKupka You're probably right. Maybe why tho Colm didnt seem very interested in doing O'Brien again, tho I personally think O'Brien was cooler, and it could have been O'briens kids as Starfleet ensigns lol.
Picard Season 3 was like true finale of TNG. I savored every second of it. It was heartwarming to see LeVar Burton on screen with his daughter Micah Burton, as a LaForge father/daughter duo. But all love letters aside... I still don't understand where this Borg queen came from. I feel like I've run into a broken continuity. Picard and Data killed the Borg queen in First Contact, and Janeway decimated the Borg armada with a virus. How is the Borg queen still alive? Jurati became a Borg queen to, what I can only assume is, a splinter faction of the Borg. Where the heck did she go in Picard S3?
This Borg queen is the one from the last episode of voyager where Janeway decimated them with a pathogen. I'm guessing she survived barely with the unicomplex. When she heard Jack's voice she plotted the slow transporter assimilation. And when Jack was of age, she used what power she had to open a transwarp aperture to jupiter to hide. Jurati is another timeline borg, and is at another timeline. The Queen in Picard is still the OG queen from First Contact and Voyager. At least that's what I interpret, not sure if I'm right.
If I had to guess it's like a Bee colony, where each colony has their own Queen. These Borg Collectives each have their own queens to control them. If they're spread across the galaxy there's no way to communicate to everyone all at once if there's just one Queen.
@@wongscp1701 Interesting idea about multiple Borg queens running multiple hives. I just did a quick search on that idea, and it seems the official position on Borg leadership is there is only one queen at any given time, and a new one replaces the old whenever the old one dies. This means the queen from First Contact is most definitely dead, just as we saw. She could definitely be Voyager's queen.
You shouldn't see the borg queen as an individual. She is the personification of the borg and more of a concept. Her body is like another drone controlled by her, her conscience is the collective itself. "I am the beginning, the end, the one who is many. I am the Borg." This results in her beeing basically immortal as long as the collective exists. By memory alpha: The Queen was subsequently replicated after each death, although the exact mechanism of her reincarnations remains unclear. As a sidefact the queen in Picard S3 was voiced by the same actress that played her in first contact and voyager endgame.
This was a golden season... very well layd out and written. Terry Matalas have my respect... to link stories from the past, with the lackluster story telling from S1 and 2 from ST:P, is a feat on itself! But it was cleverly made and all made sense... This was the StarTrek we needed and deserved... Thats Right! Nothing is more important then familly! Being blood or otherwise... familly is all that we need... the pure love and trust that we can have... Long lasting friends... I believe on this kind of future... a future where love, respect and understanding of the fellow suffering will move us foward as a species...
It's still a future walked into while looking backwards, rather than a bold new vision of a better future. It was great fan service, but in the end, it was driven by nostalgia, by notions of a better past, rather than visions of a better future. A problem of a lot of recent Trek series - with Discovery Season 3 being the most egregious offender. It was a story well told, with but a handful of eyebrow-raisers, but it's not the Star Trek I needed.
How can I resist making the 500th comment here? Impressive synopsis of a very conflicted series/career. Insanely lucky that they still had so many vital characters/actors still alive to do this. Tho they left some doors open for future projects, most of the older ones will surely be done. Will be interesting to see which newer ones can keep it going.
Loved all 3 seasons of Picard. It seems as though many of the characters finally received some hopes, they had for most of their lives. It seems that Picard finally felt the true meaning of family. He can be the father who was better than his father had been. A possibly unpopular opinion that Beverly Crusher was correct in not telling Picard he had a son, does have a strong base Picard would have flitted in & out as the universe called for him. Being a father & possibly a husband requires consistent presence. Having a father take off from your life with very little notice, not knowing when or if he'd be back, if he was dead or alive or somewhere in between, critically injured. Children need more consistency in their early years. Laris got a taste of that when she & Picard had made plans, made extensive preparations. Then, *poof* all plans go for nought. All in all, Picard is such a great man, everyone's savior & hero! What happened with Laris? We may be left hanging there or, maybe get a glimpse into what she went on to do with or without Picard as part of her life. Romulans have the same life span as Vulcans.
I enjoyed series 3 and it is a great send off for the TNG crew. To me, the weakest part of the season was the death of Shaw. In a very short time they developed a great character. I would have loved to see more interactions between him and Seven. Those two would make a perfect pairing.
I get that part and it was done well. I just think, my opinion, it would have been nice/better to see those two characters interact more. There was good chemistry between the two.
I think as long as Jack Crusher is presented on the show, that will leave a lot of room for Cameo appearances from Picard. Patrick Stewart doesn't have to have his own show but he can at least be a side character for 7/9 or Jack Crusher.
While there were the closures cited in the Looper episode, there are some WTF things, too. So Locutus' Queen didn't die and hooked up with the Founders. Why did this happen after we had the previous ending with Jurati-Queen? For me, the sequencing is wrong. This left Laris hanging, too. I missed Dr Crusher's red hair. Trivial, I know, but given her impact on the story, it would have been part of the continuity. And further... I kind of hope Wesley comes back as a Traveler to screw with Q and defend humans. Goldberg-Guinan would have been nice at the end at her bar.
I love how they ended it. The crew needed a proper sendoff. Seeing them now and then in future episodes would be cool too. Not sure if a show with Jack, 7 & Co. would be that interesting though.
I thought the whole point of the end of s2 was the queen melded with Jurardi and the new Borg were charter members of the federation watching a newly formed transwarp conduit. Also I thought the Titan was getting long in the tooth, I thought the Odyssey class enterprise G was newer, bigger and more powerful but took a backseat to the titan? I would have loved to see the titan renamed the USS Picard instead.
Well if the producers wanted the original fans to watch Star Trek going forward that had to say that the previous two seasons are not actually Star Trek. They don't count since they ruin the Star Trek Universe.
@@Annapurna818 not sure what that has to do with the season 2 Borg ending. Surely they could have assisted, seeing as they were charter members of the federation.
Man this season fully embraced the inevitable. It's Star Trek TNG to it's core. This is my canon following the TNG finale. I'm glad to have witnessed this. I laughed, I cried. Thank you Star Trek.
Agnes/Borg Queen became the watchers of the gate at the anomaly they encountered at the end of season 2 in case something or someone emerged from it. She is a completely new and separate Borg Queen that is helping Starfleet and awaiting permission for their provisional approval into the federation.
One missed opportunity. Upping the lighting and adding features of the older Enterprises to the Renamed Titan bridge along with some hull alterations to show a hefty refit. Sovereign deflector, and more TMP style nacelles would be good external changes while the bridge gets Excelsior Enterprise B and Enterprise D elements like cooler silver rails and maybe get some carpetting for the floors. The dark bridge and hall designs just don't fit the optimistic ending.
I thought it was Lovely that the President was called Anton Chekov a nod to TOS but also to the late Anton Yelchin who of course is Chekov in the Calvin Timeline!
Watching your summary was so much more satisfying than watching the episodes themselves. This finally makes sense of the the season for me: it was a soulless series of plot points designed to make sense in a summary (or geek-wiki). As actual narrative storytelling, the season was a stuttering mess. The dialogue was trite, the emotional junctures were forced, character motivations were unleavened, and character growth was sabotaged by withheld information in service of superficial reveals. The best parts of the season for me were the episode titles, again revealing that the season was simply a cerebral exercise. At no time did I feel I was spending time with beloved characters. They were all stereotypes of themselves. I felt so bad for the actors having to deliver so many bad lines.
S3 was a nice way pay tribute to the previous Star Trek cast and introduce new era of the story :) They must have taken notes from the disaster that was the latest Star Wars trilogy
Picard's girlfriend was in the first episode of the season. The Jaradi Borg doesn't exist in this time line because Picard went back in time and changed the past. So they're in between time at the portal.
@@eddiecancelmusic yes, because Jaradi was left in that past, she as the Borg existed, so she was able to jump time streams because she knew what was going to happen. It's like this. In season two, we learn that the Borg were aware of many realities (timeliness). Agnus as Borg, also had this ability to cross realities. When the Borg first appeared, it was such a jump. The rift they're guarding intersects many timelines. So they can freely exist within it. Also remember it was Q that brought Picard back.
@@dragonweyr44 Agnus' Borg collective still exist as they are guarding the transwarp conduit that got created in the end of the second season. They are a provisional member of federation and are most likely now the only Borgs alive because they are not part of the original Borg collective. They most likely still are there guarding and studying the conduit.
To clarify these are the original Borg from this timeline, dimension. and were weak and vulnerable because of future Admiral Janeways Neurolytic_pathogen gambit. Thus the queen mentioning "At the very edge of Space where you left us *Poisoned!*" Have to give Janeway never did things in halves so she didn't just blow up a bunch of cubes and a uni-complex, she dealt them a near death blow.
You nailed it right on the head! Not many others have caught on to this, which is kind of sad but maybe they're not familiar with the golden age of Star Trek lol (TNG-ENT). Endgame is another favorite Trek episode of mine, tho All Good Things, and I must admit Picard S3 E10 will now be another top favorite.
All correct except..it was Janeway that dealt the huge death blow to The Borg when she destroyed as Captain and Admiral Janeway one of the main transwarp conduits. Pretty good synopsis though. A- for this one mistake. 🖖
There was more schmaltz in this season of Picard than in a Jewish Deli. It was an exercise in pure Fan Service, which is fine, but please don't call it quality, touching, or clever - it tarnishes the value of those words. The number of contrivances were far too many, the suspension of disbelief required was insulting, and lastly I wish not to revisit the transgressions of Picard as I'd prefer to remember STTNG and its associated characters with fondness.
Can I ask a silly question, I thought in the the end of season 2 Dr jurati was the Borg queen? So I’m confused who this Borg queen is in season 3. My apologies if it’s a silly question
What ever happened to the Borg human hybrid at the end of Season 2? Surely she could have or should have played a crucial role against the new Borg threat.
Q could always return regardless and exist at just any point in time. Even if his death was real, whatever he would still do in the future could already be past to Q at this point.
Been a Trekkie since it 1st Aired in the late 60's watching for the 1st time being aired, I liked the ending but was hoping to see some of the crew of Deep Space 9, since the Changlings were involved I would have liked to see Odo (Of Course played by a new actor since Rene has died) and Sisko perhaps, because since Sisko was responsible largely for the defeat of the Changelings I would have thought the Evolved Changelings would have to target him & the Prophets in the Worm Hole (Worm Hole Aliens) to exact revenge seeing as they destroyed over 2000 Jem Hadar ships and contributed to the Federation winning the war. Also would have liked to see Dr. Bashir and Exri Dax join in on all this. One of the things that got me since the Movie "Nemesis" was why wasn't the New Armor not used that Janeway brought back from the Delta Quadrant and the Trans Phasic Torpedoes? Admiral Janeway was mentioned in the season once but that was all. Also? what Happened to Chakotay & 7 of 9 ? why they break up? he was never mentioned.
What would everyone think about a Data spinoff show about his early Starfleet career. Including the Academy which would be accelerated. They would have to cast a new actor of course. And Brent Spiner would be reluctant to appear in any form. But if done with the right actor and writing team it could be amazing.
Sooo where was Jurati and her borg crew when the S3 finale was going down?? Did I miss something, cause they would have been a great help to stop the other borg queen’s plot. We left S2 with jurati on guard at the mysterious gateway, right?? But I presume that gateway was caused by the other queen n Borg, or am I missing something???
Incoming communication We are the borg. Resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. You will be assimilated. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Humans are flawed, weak, organic. We evolved to include the synthetic. Now we use both to attain perfection. Your goal should be the same as ours. Petty emotions, fear, anger, vanity, have corrupted you. Your archaic cultures are authority driven. Human sentiments are irrelevant. Compassion, guilt, empathy, irrelevant. Freedom is irrelevant. Self determination is irrelevant. Death is irrelevant. Your culture will adapt to service ours. Your life, as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service us. You will leave behind your trivial selfish life and be reborn with greater purpose. Delivered from chaos into order. You will become one with the borg. You will join the collective. We will work as one mind. We are the beginning, the end, the one who is many. We are the borg. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
That is the problem with near omnipotent beings capable of traveling through time. Picard's Q antagonist died giving him the knowledge he needed to ally with the Borg and stop a quadrant destroying phenomenon but Q decides to involve himself with Picard's son as well after he died in the past, because you can do that in the future before you died in the past.
I have always been a fan of star trek next generation, and I loved this show too. All 3 seasons were great, but I can't help but be extremely confused about 2 things. #1) I thought the Borg queen assimilated Dr. Jurati, chose too become good, and joined the Federation at the end of season 2? #2) How is it that no one has addressed this huge plot whole? No I'm not a troll, I really like the show. I'm just curious
I’m a different timeline yes. Jurado Borg collective is a different collective. These Borg are the original evil Borg whose collective has been destroyed by Janeway at the end of voyager.
"In the finale, Picard destroys the Borg queen which signals the end of the Borg forever." (7:10) That suggests a single point of failure that seems like something the Borg could easily have protocols to address. Whoever wrote the entry for "Borg Queen" on Memory Alpha said, "The death of the Borg Queen, while traumatic to drones in the immediate vicinity, did not seem to permanently affect the Collective or its hive mind as a whole. The Queen was subsequently replicated after each death, although the exact mechanism of her reincarnations remains unclear."
@Gary Moore: That entry seems to be relevant to the one in First Contact. What's different about the ending in Voyager is that the alternate Admiral Janeway poisoned the Collective with the neurolytic pathogen by having the Queen unknowingly assimilate it while within the Unicomplex itself. Something about this definitely looks and feels different. The location and the target for the pathogen are just "chef's kiss" perfect in terms of where to introduce chaos to the Collective. The Queen doesn't immediately detect the subterfuge until she begins losing contact with her Collective slowly. "Just enough.. to introduce chaos to order" - Admiral Janeway. I think this causes the state where the Collective was "left to rot" and the "poisoned" state the Queen aludes to in the finale. The facts seem to fit what happened in Picard, so I imagine the Memory Alpha entries will be updated to reflect this.
@@Annapurna818 Yes I know that, very sad. My questions was about continuity, Jurati/Borg Queen helped save the universe last season...so what happened that inception as it seems from this story line that this Borg Queen links back the the Voyager finale where they blitz the Borg.
Jack voluntarily going to the borg queen was the stupidest thing ever written into star trek. Vadic should of captured him and delivered him to the queen would of been much more believabe.
I may be wrong but I think this Borg Queen is the survivor of Adm. Janeway's viral infection from the final episode of Voyager. All the queens were connected. She's occupying the severely damaged trans-warp nexus she was in when that cascading explosion destroyed the Borg trans-warp network and she's been living off the remains of the drones around her
Yes , this is the canon Borg Queen of The movie The first Contact and Voyager Series... The borg Queen manage to survive the infection by using the the drones to keep regenerating it self... Self preservation... but in the end it killed most of the cube drones and being cutoff from the delta quadrant the link with the collective was severed beyond repair... In the end all the Borg Queen had was scraps and a dying drone crew... But the alliance with ther rogue faction of the changelings gave the Queen the oportunity to rise again and get a new collective back... Actually the story is pretty clever...
@@tonydagostino6158 and it is! Its the same Queen, but on that movie she went to the past but it informed the future queen (herself) about the humanity and event´s that happend on that movie... Later on we see that effect on the Voyager Series and now reconnected with the current day post virus borg queen...
Jameway severely damaged the Borgs ability to maintain their collective nature and detonated the transwarp conduit system that gave the borg their ability to cross great distances quickly. This queen somehow heard jack's voice and set up with what little she had left in the storms of Jupiter. Over Jacks life she developed am alliance with the disgruntled changelings and developed the dna infection. Using the changelings to do it. While she consumed the drones on the ship ton keep herself alive. I believe this is the last iteration of the Queen from First Contact and voyager. The need for copies being essential as time travel would cut the borg off from her in First Contact and render them without a control node. I believe that was the end off the borg. And I believe it should be the end of the borg. But theres always Jurati sonwhonthe hell knows. Come up with a better monster
@@LgiovanniF , that is correct as Jurati is still watching The Gate /New Transwarp Tunnel that was created at the end Season 2 last episode & do to being her group job to watch /Guarding it which prevented her from helping Picard ,,
It has become by far my favourite of all the star trek series , I would happily say this is last season is 10/10 for me, the only regret I have is that the people who directed and wrote this final season, werent either available or given the freedoms to direct all of picard, because the majority of picard proceeding the last season was middling to average at best. While the last season was the best star trek ive seen .
Killing the Borg queen would not mean the end of the collective. She is a widget just like every other borg. She is just more complex. If the queen were to die the remaining Borg drones would either go back to being leaderless or they would select a species to target and assimilate one of them to make a new queen. It is also possible that there are multiple queens spread out across Borg space. Just like how bees do it. Each hive has a queen. It is possible we only ever saw one queen when there are in fact many.
John de Lancie's son played Q's son, Q junior we'll call him, in Star Trek Voyager. That's the Q that should be partnered with Jack Crusher. Or is he Jack Picard now? 🤔
I agree 100%, I do not see him as a hero at all, I see him as a whiny bi*ch that got tons of good people killed because of his daddy issues. It was driving me crazy when they were wasting time while so many people were dying.
Wesley is a Traveler now. Rewatch Season 2, when Noonian Singh's 21st- century ancestor's plan to stop the space launch is thwarted. Good for Wesley, StarFleet would have been a frustratingly horrible waste of his...time.
I wonder if Q's son will be Jack's "Guide" like his father was for Picard lol Delaney will start getting even older and hours of shooting takes it's toll, great work everyone, fans too
first season was ok but really didn't like how treatred picard in it, and over the top ending with machine gods stuff, 2nd season to me was a mess, i reallly didn't care for it,but nice closure q and picard. This season was best of bunch, still bit of issues here there but if turned off by last 2 seasons i give it a try.
I had a blast with season 3...but I'm so confused with the end of season 2. I thought we had a a new kindler gentler Borg with Jurati merging with the Borg queen. I won't even get into how that would've rewritten the timeline, but is the Borg truly gone? Also, I love Q, but he was dying...and now he's not. I know there are lots of other Q but the whole last act of kindness in season 2 doesn't have much weight if he's fine in the season 3 last episode stinger. God, when you introduce time travel it's a migraine
lets just say q lives for 4 trilion years, season 2 could have been the 3.9 trillion year old q while season 3's could have been 2.2 trillion year old Q. Hence why Q said humans think so linearly
I found the destruction of the Borg in the finale to be somewhat dissatisfying. They got beaten so easily, but then after the hard nerfing they got in Voyager, I guess I shouldn't be wholly surprised. I still want to know how the Queen even survived Endgame anyway. There's a bunch of theories as to how the Borg Queen works, like just being a singular consciousness that takes over a new body when one expires, but it would still be nice if the show actually explained it.
@@HOCOsports and that's why no one should be watching this season as well. Since they have not truly apologize for ruining Star Trek. Seven of Nine needs to be dropped for her perverse behavior during the first two seasons. Rafi was a dumb character should have been dropped as well. They should have completely started over. And not use any of the characters or story elements from the previous two seasons.
Best thing of episode 10 was Walter Koenig voicing Anton Chekov. A nice tribute to the original cast and crew of the original series and a nice tribute to Anton Yelchin who passed away to early.
He tosses in a slight russian accent...listen to it a few times.
Best thing about episode 10 was episode 10!
It wasn't just Picard's offer to sacrifice himself with Jack that convinced him to return. When Picard was connected to the collective, Jack could sense his thoughts and feelings and could sense Picard's love and desire to be a father to him. He realized he really wasn't alone.
How do you know that?
Why did Jack even want to be a Borg, and not just want to join a gang or take drugs, or do all the things that rebellious sons do?
What did we see in Jack to make us feel like he wanted to be in the Borg? Does he want to go back and deliver drugs to sick people?
@@valueofnothing2487 I think Jack always felt alone and the borg queen capitalised on that.
Also the fact that Jack is a kid he didn't realise he wouldn't be able to just assassinate the Queen. So his hubris kinda screwed him too
@@valueofnothing2487 the collective connects thoughts so he would have been able to easily sense if Picard was lying. As for Jack he didn't want to be borg but he did want to Show the borg that he wasn't their plaything and had planned to shoot the Queen dead. But he was unable to do so which she mocked him for and thus she assimilated him.
@@valueofnothing2487 Those scenes of Picard flashing through his mind when Picard said he would stay there with him were a dead giveaway.
@@jtkirkfan2002 I thought that was just part of the flashback that I wasn't buying to begin with. Picard barely knows who Jack is. A few conversations at a bar.
This was the best most heartwarming ending to such an incredible series ❤️, it was everything I hoped for and more. Truly a love letter to all the fans around the world.
Seeing all of the old crew together again was beyond magical. What a great sequel for TNG. They gave us exactly what we wanted. Even the old ship! So good.
first they kill Data then they bring him back from the dead sounds familiar🤣
Really liked S3. And would like to see a spin off with Seven, Rafi and Jack
Yes
@@passiveaggressive6175 Not forgetting Q of course 😊
No Raffi. She is a horrible character.
Those 3 have the same rebellious personality. They need to add a Vulcan or android or someone like Shaw to make it a good show.
Rafi should be ELIMINATED from the show,....an absolute joke.
The whole season 3 has been a love letter to fans, to Star Trek Legacy, to Sci-Fi and Humankind!
Excellently put. 🖖
A love letter written with 💩.
Strongly disagree. Season 3 was poorly written and threw out all of the storyline progression of the prior two seasons. It had all of the "feels" but no coherent story or plot structure. I'm honestly a little offended that they gave us this to finish off the series.
@@jonathanmartin6608here’s also that niggling little detail of upwards of 100k Starfleet personnel dying in the battle (multiple people have done the math) that just get glossed right over so the crew can have a few laughs over drinks and poker.
They spent half an episode whining about Wolf 359 and implying trauma for the few survivors, and then multiply the death count significantly and don’t even acknowledge it.
Like nearly everyone these people knew from their entire careers *not* on the Enterprise were more than likely dead, also, but hey, happy ending, right?
ah yes, weak, spineless, useless, shivering Piccard is exactly what I wanted to see.
Killing ALL borgs with one bobmb and power of love is just cringe.
old Data... lol
they tried to play our nostalgia, but forgot to hire decent screenwriters
I have lost the hope for happy endings of a series since "The Mentalist" , but this time my wishes becomes true. Wonderful !
I always liked Riker, but I have gained new found respect for his abilities. Dr. Crusher has finally spread her wings and boy did Gates McFadden show up this series well done!
I will be forever grateful to Terry Malalas for this damn near perfect season to TNG, and to giving a PROPER send-off to this crew. Terry, you are forever locked into Star-Trek history now and forever.
any old season is better than this cringe.
@@fast1nakuspeople like to pretend there wasn’t PLENTY of goofy stupid episodes of TNG. This season of Picard was amazing.
Thank you Terry matalas! Thank you to Gene Roddenberry for seeing where humanity could go. These past few years of Covid have shown humanity in all its darkness. This ending of the show shows us all that there is glimmers of hope even when darkness seems to have destroyed it. The ending shows also as a species, humanity is one big family mirroring our real lives today. Valuable lessons for everyone😊😊
Some folks such as myself never allowed that hysteria to took root.
I want to see more so bad. Star Trek hasn't been the same or hasn't been this good since the cancellation of all the TNG, Voyager, DS9, series. I want that timeline to continue. When Picard came out, this continues all their journeys. Not a reboot. This series deserve to move on and I hope the writers, producers, and all the higher ups can make it happen. Please?
So many touching moments. Yes, I shed tears as well. Everything made sense in the end. The series "wow'ed" me where I literally just shouted out, "WOW!!!" You see what you did? You got that to come out of me and that's when you know, you got something good going on.
Just terrific!
Major tears for me in the finally. I bet mostly the old loving fans were the ones to wait for the credits to end hoping there was one more little fix of STNG to send us off, and there sure was. Q didnt disappoint! Damn I want more!!!!
I cried my tears out while I was home alone when watching the last episode
I think the bottle is finally dry. We're very lucky to have gotten another chance after 30 years. It shows how good the original series was that they'd bring it back one last time and with such an awesome conclusion.
@@alexgataric I agree. An amazing ride that has stood the test of time.
It’s nice to have a TV show that ends well. Hope is a hell of a drug
The last season of Picard was the best of all three. It would be nice to see a new series with Seven of nine. I wish they would have brought Janeway in the final season.
Janeway is in Prodigy. It is realistic trek despite being cgi. It is not slapstick cartoon like lower decks.
I kept waiting for Janeway to pop up at th very end...
Absolutely loved season 3 but I'm confused about one thing. Did nothing from season 2 carry over? At the end of S2, there's a new Borg Queen. So where did this S3 queen come from? I wish we also knew more about how the Changelings and S3 Borg hooked up. Any theories about this would be most appreciated. Live long and prosper. 🖖
It was a separate collective
Who cares … if it were solid writing it might be of interest but for me nothing of Picard’s seasons is canon it’s fan service nothing more.
The borg are transtemporal and different collectives can exist in alternate timelines with different queens
The borg in season 3 are the original borg from the prime timeline that we encounter in next gen
@@worldpeace1822 that's very world peace of you.
season 2 ending was good s.3 sucks
So no one is gonna mention how Borg Queen merged with Dr Jurati at the season 2? Did I miss something?
And secondly, what happened to Laris? Was she dumped by Picard?We will never Know😅😅😅
The Jurati Borg are a different faction. Shaw briefly addressed it in ep 4 in his wolf 359 speech.
As for Laris, haha, who knows
That Queen was from a different timeline. She's from the timeline where Picard's ancestor never discovered the microbes and Adam Soong somehow turned Earth into a fascist dystopia with the shield from Highlander 2. This Queen is the same one we've seen in First Contact and the Voyager finale. They never explained how she returned after seeing a different Queen for a while but this is her
Yeha wild story Gaga that becomes obsolete in the next season is always a sign of quality writing 😂
@@ledavee 👍
So we have seen 4 Queens destroyed. First contact, Season 2 Picard (which actually gave us some insight into how the Borg Queen comes about) , the Queen from END Game, and This Incarnation. She is essentially a central processor, and whenever one is destroyed then the role is transferred to another drone who becomes the queen. This queen said she had been left rotting at the edge of the galaxy by Picard, She didn’t seem to have any knowledge of the pathogen inflicted by Janeway, or of the queen transported to the alternate dimension by Q. So to me that suggests she was on one of the cubes en route to Earth in First Contact and severely damaged which was then cut off from the collective as a whole, but was able to maintain the temporal link with the sphere, and when the temporal signal from that queen halted, she was activated on a damaged ship already removed from the whole, and began to cannibalize the remainder of the cube until she happened upon a changeling. The Jurati/Queen Hybrid started as queen from the prime timeline she was also taken to the alternate timeline, when they first found her she was the Borg equivalent of insane, until she got on the ship and used it to help her organize her self and adapt. Just my theory on it, but i dont think the Borg are gone.
Skip Season 1 and 2. of Picard. it's not required. Writing so bad I find it hard to believe they even knew what a Sci-Fi story is. Season 3 , Great Writing. Respect to the genre, lore and fans. The best Star Trek story in a decade. Pity there won't be more.
That's a little harsh IMHO, at least for season 1 (I never watched season 2). I kind of looked at season 1 as their take on the plot of mass effect.
I agree that season 3 is by far the best. But I did go back and rewatch season 2. And I have to say, after rewatching it. It was kind of interesting and I don't call it season 2, I call it season Q.
the whole story of season 2 should have taken no more than three episodes (one episode for the alternate earth future and two episodes forvthe time travel plot).. making it a whole season and 90% of it back in the 'past' made it feel even less like star trek than any other series.. hell, stargate feels more like star trek than picard season 2.
as for season 1.. its not bad.. probably should have been a movie instead of a season.. but still watchable.
season 3 though... up there with the dominion war as some of the best trek ever written imo
DS9 never gets any love, I wanted to see chief O'brien and we deserve a DS9 spin-off too.
You had Changelings.
When you have a Laforge whats an O'brien to do?
obrien is abitsch
@@WyattKupka You're probably right. Maybe why tho Colm didnt seem very interested in doing O'Brien again, tho I personally think O'Brien was cooler, and it could have been O'briens kids as Starfleet ensigns lol.
Me too!
Picard is legit one of the best comeback stories I have ever seen on a TV show in terms of narrative quality recovery.
Picard Season 3 was like true finale of TNG. I savored every second of it. It was heartwarming to see LeVar Burton on screen with his daughter Micah Burton, as a LaForge father/daughter duo. But all love letters aside... I still don't understand where this Borg queen came from. I feel like I've run into a broken continuity.
Picard and Data killed the Borg queen in First Contact, and Janeway decimated the Borg armada with a virus. How is the Borg queen still alive?
Jurati became a Borg queen to, what I can only assume is, a splinter faction of the Borg. Where the heck did she go in Picard S3?
This Borg queen is the one from the last episode of voyager where Janeway decimated them with a pathogen. I'm guessing she survived barely with the unicomplex. When she heard Jack's voice she plotted the slow transporter assimilation. And when Jack was of age, she used what power she had to open a transwarp aperture to jupiter to hide.
Jurati is another timeline borg, and is at another timeline.
The Queen in Picard is still the OG queen from First Contact and Voyager.
At least that's what I interpret, not sure if I'm right.
If I had to guess it's like a Bee colony, where each colony has their own Queen. These Borg Collectives each have their own queens to control them. If they're spread across the galaxy there's no way to communicate to everyone all at once if there's just one Queen.
Wow I never knew Micah was Lavars daughter. Love when she guest stars on Critical Role
@@wongscp1701 Interesting idea about multiple Borg queens running multiple hives. I just did a quick search on that idea, and it seems the official position on Borg leadership is there is only one queen at any given time, and a new one replaces the old whenever the old one dies. This means the queen from First Contact is most definitely dead, just as we saw. She could definitely be Voyager's queen.
You shouldn't see the borg queen as an individual. She is the personification of the borg and more of a concept. Her body is like another drone controlled by her, her conscience is the collective itself. "I am the beginning, the end, the one who is many. I am the Borg." This results in her beeing basically immortal as long as the collective exists.
By memory alpha: The Queen was subsequently replicated after each death, although the exact mechanism of her reincarnations remains unclear.
As a sidefact the queen in Picard S3 was voiced by the same actress that played her in first contact and voyager endgame.
Season 3 was magnificent I teared up several times during the season!!! This is how you pay homage to a beloved ip!!!!
The episode was pretty self-explanatory. Borg we’re finally annihilated, TNG crew gets a happy ending. Boom
Loved it when Data drifted the Enterprise inside the Borg Cube.
Old Borg: "resistance is futile" New Borg: "Exterminate! Exterminate!"
This was a golden season... very well layd out and written. Terry Matalas have my respect... to link stories from the past, with the lackluster story telling from S1 and 2 from ST:P, is a feat on itself!
But it was cleverly made and all made sense... This was the StarTrek we needed and deserved... Thats Right! Nothing is more important then familly! Being blood or otherwise... familly is all that we need... the pure love and trust that we can have... Long lasting friends...
I believe on this kind of future... a future where love, respect and understanding of the fellow suffering will move us foward as a species...
It's still a future walked into while looking backwards, rather than a bold new vision of a better future. It was great fan service, but in the end, it was driven by nostalgia, by notions of a better past, rather than visions of a better future. A problem of a lot of recent Trek series - with Discovery Season 3 being the most egregious offender. It was a story well told, with but a handful of eyebrow-raisers, but it's not the Star Trek I needed.
Someone at the Looper is a huge Star Trek fan. I have learned things about Picard I didn't even think about.
How can I resist making the 500th comment here? Impressive synopsis of a very conflicted series/career. Insanely lucky that they still had so many vital characters/actors still alive to do this. Tho they left some doors open for future projects, most of the older ones will surely be done. Will be interesting to see which newer ones can keep it going.
Loved all 3 seasons of Picard. It seems as though many of the characters finally received some hopes, they had for most of their lives. It seems that Picard finally felt the true meaning of family. He can be the father who was better than his father had been. A possibly unpopular opinion that Beverly Crusher was correct in not telling Picard he had a son, does have a strong base
Picard would have flitted in & out as the universe called for him. Being a father & possibly a husband requires consistent presence. Having a father take off from your life with very little notice, not knowing when or if he'd be back, if he was dead or alive or somewhere in between, critically injured. Children need more consistency in their early years. Laris got a taste of that when she & Picard had made plans, made extensive preparations. Then, *poof* all plans go for nought.
All in all, Picard is such a great man, everyone's savior & hero!
What happened with Laris? We may be left hanging there or, maybe get a glimpse into what she went on to do with or without Picard as part of her life. Romulans have the same life span as Vulcans.
I enjoyed series 3 and it is a great send off for the TNG crew. To me, the weakest part of the season was the death of Shaw. In a very short time they developed a great character. I would have loved to see more interactions between him and Seven. Those two would make a perfect pairing.
Had to set it up for 7 of 9s own show
I get that part and it was done well. I just think, my opinion, it would have been nice/better to see those two characters interact more. There was good chemistry between the two.
And as much as Todd Stashwick enjoyed his time as Captain Shaw, my feeling is that he's ready to do other projects.
I think as long as Jack Crusher is presented on the show, that will leave a lot of room for Cameo appearances from Picard. Patrick Stewart doesn't have to have his own show but he can at least be a side character for 7/9 or Jack Crusher.
So, Beverly is just not capable of producing a regular kid, only super children?
the Howard clan for generations
While there were the closures cited in the Looper episode, there are some WTF things, too. So Locutus' Queen didn't die and hooked up with the Founders. Why did this happen after we had the previous ending with Jurati-Queen? For me, the sequencing is wrong. This left Laris hanging, too.
I missed Dr Crusher's red hair. Trivial, I know, but given her impact on the story, it would have been part of the continuity.
And further... I kind of hope Wesley comes back as a Traveler to screw with Q and defend humans.
Goldberg-Guinan would have been nice at the end at her bar.
Thank you for continuing to explain endings that weren't confusing. The Ending of (blank) Discussed
I love how they ended it. The crew needed a proper sendoff. Seeing them now and then in future episodes would be cool too. Not sure if a show with Jack, 7 & Co. would be that interesting though.
Terry Matalas did a PHENOMENAL job! Keep up the good work, Mr. Matalas!
What happened to Jurati and her Borg history? What happened to Wesley Crusher and why didn't he return?
I thought the whole point of the end of s2 was the queen melded with Jurardi and the new Borg were charter members of the federation watching a newly formed transwarp conduit.
Also I thought the Titan was getting long in the tooth, I thought the Odyssey class enterprise G was newer, bigger and more powerful but took a backseat to the titan? I would have loved to see the titan renamed the USS Picard instead.
Well if the producers wanted the original fans to watch Star Trek going forward that had to say that the previous two seasons are not actually Star Trek. They don't count since they ruin the Star Trek Universe.
I know what happened with the end of season 2 then?? Did they just completely let that story go nowhere??
That was the Queen from the fascist timeline. This is the Queen from First Contact and the Voyager finale
The actress from season 2 died of cancer. That is why they had to bring back the original Queen Alice Krige.
@@Annapurna818 not sure what that has to do with the season 2 Borg ending. Surely they could have assisted, seeing as they were charter members of the federation.
Looks like a brilliant series. Hope I get to see it someday
Man this season fully embraced the inevitable. It's Star Trek TNG to it's core. This is my canon following the TNG finale. I'm glad to have witnessed this. I laughed, I cried. Thank you Star Trek.
I have one question after season 3's finale: where the heck was Agnes Jurati? She literally became the borg queen at the end of season 2
Agnes/Borg Queen became the watchers of the gate at the anomaly they encountered at the end of season 2 in case something or someone emerged from it. She is a completely new and separate Borg Queen that is helping Starfleet and awaiting permission for their provisional approval into the federation.
@@kboo74 Being connected to the collective, you'd think she'd have still known about the other Queen's intentions
@@0perativeX I think it was a purposeful omission. Maybe this leaves the door open for a movie or tv show with Jack and Q.
@@0perativeX I absolutely agree with you.
What confuses me is Agnes became the borg queen in season two and started an alliance so how does the borg in season 3 come to be
So what about Picards lady friend back home? Wasn’t the borg different at the end of last season?
One missed opportunity. Upping the lighting and adding features of the older Enterprises to the Renamed Titan bridge along with some hull alterations to show a hefty refit. Sovereign deflector, and more TMP style nacelles would be good external changes while the bridge gets Excelsior Enterprise B and Enterprise D elements like cooler silver rails and maybe get some carpetting for the floors. The dark bridge and hall designs just don't fit the optimistic ending.
I thought it was Lovely that the President was called Anton Chekov a nod to TOS but also to the late Anton Yelchin who of course is Chekov in the Calvin Timeline!
Second star to the right, and straight on till morning!
Picard ghosted Laris. He’s with his bae Beverly
Watching your summary was so much more satisfying than watching the episodes themselves. This finally makes sense of the the season for me: it was a soulless series of plot points designed to make sense in a summary (or geek-wiki). As actual narrative storytelling, the season was a stuttering mess. The dialogue was trite, the emotional junctures were forced, character motivations were unleavened, and character growth was sabotaged by withheld information in service of superficial reveals. The best parts of the season for me were the episode titles, again revealing that the season was simply a cerebral exercise. At no time did I feel I was spending time with beloved characters. They were all stereotypes of themselves. I felt so bad for the actors having to deliver so many bad lines.
Can anyone tell me what happened to S2 Borg Queen / Agnes Jurati? Why was Q alive? Did I miss something or this makes no sense at all?
S3 was a nice way pay tribute to the previous Star Trek cast and introduce new era of the story :)
They must have taken notes from the disaster that was the latest Star Wars trilogy
What happened to the Ajanti borg collective? The one that people voluntarily become borg
And what about Picard's Romulan girlfriend?
Picard's girlfriend was in the first episode of the season.
The Jaradi Borg doesn't exist in this time line because Picard went back in time and changed the past. So they're in between time at the portal.
Yeah but when Picard came back to present time, Dr Agnes Jurati, the news Borg Queen was there
@@eddiecancelmusic yes, because Jaradi was left in that past, she as the Borg existed, so she was able to jump time streams because she knew what was going to happen.
It's like this.
In season two, we learn that the Borg were aware of many realities (timeliness). Agnus as Borg, also had this ability to cross realities.
When the Borg first appeared, it was such a jump. The rift they're guarding intersects many timelines. So they can freely exist within it.
Also remember it was Q that brought Picard back.
@@kewlztertc5386 So doe Agnus' borg exist in the season 3 timeline or not? And if they do, where were they to stop this queen?
@@dragonweyr44 Agnus' Borg collective still exist as they are guarding the transwarp conduit that got created in the end of the second season. They are a provisional member of federation and are most likely now the only Borgs alive because they are not part of the original Borg collective. They most likely still are there guarding and studying the conduit.
To clarify these are the original Borg from this timeline, dimension. and were weak and vulnerable because of future Admiral Janeways Neurolytic_pathogen gambit. Thus the queen mentioning "At the very edge of Space where you left us *Poisoned!*" Have to give Janeway never did things in halves so she didn't just blow up a bunch of cubes and a uni-complex, she dealt them a near death blow.
You nailed it right on the head! Not many others have caught on to this, which is kind of sad but maybe they're not familiar with the golden age of Star Trek lol (TNG-ENT). Endgame is another favorite Trek episode of mine, tho All Good Things, and I must admit Picard S3 E10 will now be another top favorite.
@@mlbslugger62 Agreed. Nothing like watching the Enterprise D absolutely wreck a giant borg cube solo. It gave me goosebumps!
Well, you know Janeway. She doesnt respond well to threats.
I think this episode is the Best Way to End a Serie. Closing loose Ends, great Emotions and a sneak peak to a posible new Serie 😍😍😍😍
Great job Mr. Matalas! The future of Star Trek is in good hand.
All correct except..it was Janeway that dealt the huge death blow to The Borg when she destroyed as Captain and Admiral Janeway one of the main transwarp conduits. Pretty good synopsis though. A- for this one mistake. 🖖
So is the Borg or original borg completely destroyed now.?
Or are they still active in the delta quadrant?
There was more schmaltz in this season of Picard than in a Jewish Deli. It was an exercise in pure Fan Service, which is fine, but please don't call it quality, touching, or clever - it tarnishes the value of those words. The number of contrivances were far too many, the suspension of disbelief required was insulting, and lastly I wish not to revisit the transgressions of Picard as I'd prefer to remember STTNG and its associated characters with fondness.
It’s funny to seeing Worf napping on the bridge.
Having trouble understanding the Borg situation. Did they not form a new relationship with federation at the end of season 2?
The series needs to continue. Borg are still vital in Star Trek and serves a greater purpose.
So... you're rooting for the Borg?!
What ever became of the borg from the end of Season 2? They weren’t the same borg in Season 3, were they?
Can I ask a silly question, I thought in the the end of season 2 Dr jurati was the Borg queen? So I’m confused who this Borg queen is in season 3. My apologies if it’s a silly question
What ever happened to the Borg human hybrid at the end of Season 2? Surely she could have or should have played a crucial role against the new Borg threat.
Why is everyone surprised that Q returned? His "final" episode set up the possibility of return, or was no one paying attention?
Q could always return regardless and exist at just any point in time. Even if his death was real, whatever he would still do in the future could already be past to Q at this point.
When do we see the episode hinted at with Jack, Seven and the new character?❤❤❤
Been a Trekkie since it 1st Aired in the late 60's watching for the 1st time being aired, I liked the ending but was hoping to see some of the crew of Deep Space 9, since the Changlings were involved I would have liked to see Odo (Of Course played by a new actor since Rene has died) and Sisko perhaps, because since Sisko was responsible largely for the defeat of the Changelings I would have thought the Evolved Changelings would have to target him & the Prophets in the Worm Hole (Worm Hole Aliens) to exact revenge seeing as they destroyed over 2000 Jem Hadar ships and contributed to the Federation winning the war.
Also would have liked to see Dr. Bashir and Exri Dax join in on all this.
One of the things that got me since the Movie "Nemesis" was why wasn't the New Armor not used that Janeway brought back from the Delta Quadrant and the Trans Phasic Torpedoes? Admiral Janeway was mentioned in the season once but that was all.
Also? what Happened to Chakotay & 7 of 9 ? why they break up? he was never mentioned.
What would everyone think about a Data spinoff show about his early Starfleet career. Including the Academy which would be accelerated. They would have to cast a new actor of course. And Brent Spiner would be reluctant to appear in any form. But if done with the right actor and writing team it could be amazing.
9:03 last time Troi was behind the helm of the Enterprise D it got hot dropped on a planet.
Sooo where was Jurati and her borg crew when the S3 finale was going down?? Did I miss something, cause they would have been a great help to stop the other borg queen’s plot.
We left S2 with jurati on guard at the mysterious gateway, right?? But I presume that gateway was caused by the other queen n Borg, or am I missing something???
Incoming communication
We are the borg.
Resistance is futile.
We wish to improve ourselves.
You will be assimilated.
We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Humans are flawed, weak, organic.
We evolved to include the synthetic.
Now we use both to attain perfection.
Your goal should be the same as ours.
Petty emotions, fear, anger, vanity, have corrupted you.
Your archaic cultures are authority driven.
Human sentiments are irrelevant.
Compassion, guilt, empathy, irrelevant.
Freedom is irrelevant.
Self determination is irrelevant.
Death is irrelevant.
Your culture will adapt to service ours.
Your life, as it has been, is over.
From this time forward, you will service us.
You will leave behind your trivial selfish life and be reborn with greater purpose.
Delivered from chaos into order.
You will become one with the borg.
You will join the collective.
We will work as one mind.
We are the beginning, the end, the one who is many.
We are the borg.
Resistance is futile.
You will be assimilated.
That is the problem with near omnipotent beings capable of traveling through time. Picard's Q antagonist died giving him the knowledge he needed to ally with the Borg and stop a quadrant destroying phenomenon but Q decides to involve himself with Picard's son as well after he died in the past, because you can do that in the future before you died in the past.
I have always been a fan of star trek next generation, and I loved this show too. All 3 seasons were great, but I can't help but be extremely confused about 2 things. #1) I thought the Borg queen assimilated Dr. Jurati, chose too become good, and joined the Federation at the end of season 2? #2) How is it that no one has addressed this huge plot whole? No I'm not a troll, I really like the show. I'm just curious
wasnt there a new good Borg queen at the end of season 2?
I’m a different timeline yes. Jurado Borg collective is a different collective. These Borg are the original evil Borg whose collective has been destroyed by Janeway at the end of voyager.
"In the finale, Picard destroys the Borg queen which signals the end of the Borg forever." (7:10) That suggests a single point of failure that seems like something the Borg could easily have protocols to address. Whoever wrote the entry for "Borg Queen" on Memory Alpha said, "The death of the Borg Queen, while traumatic to drones in the immediate vicinity, did not seem to permanently affect the Collective or its hive mind as a whole. The Queen was subsequently replicated after each death, although the exact mechanism of her reincarnations remains unclear."
@Gary Moore: That entry seems to be relevant to the one in First Contact. What's different about the ending in Voyager is that the alternate Admiral Janeway poisoned the Collective with the neurolytic pathogen by having the Queen unknowingly assimilate it while within the Unicomplex itself. Something about this definitely looks and feels different. The location and the target for the pathogen are just "chef's kiss" perfect in terms of where to introduce chaos to the Collective.
The Queen doesn't immediately detect the subterfuge until she begins losing contact with her Collective slowly. "Just enough.. to introduce chaos to order" - Admiral Janeway. I think this causes the state where the Collective was "left to rot" and the "poisoned" state the Queen aludes to in the finale.
The facts seem to fit what happened in Picard, so I imagine the Memory Alpha entries will be updated to reflect this.
Just Hope the Next stories wont be about saving the universe again, as If there is nobody Else in the universe capable to
Basic Question, is this Borg Queen different from nice Borg Queen (Dr. Agnes Jurati), coz it seems like there is a disconnect
No. Alice Krige is the original Queen. The actress from season 2 who played the Queen died of cancer.
@@Annapurna818 Yes I know that, very sad. My questions was about continuity, Jurati/Borg Queen helped save the universe last season...so what happened that inception as it seems from this story line that this Borg Queen links back the the Voyager finale where they blitz the Borg.
Thanks for this video.
The Enterprise-D flies into the Cube like the Voyager in Star Trek experience: borg invasion: 4d.
Jack voluntarily going to the borg queen was the stupidest thing ever written into star trek. Vadic should of captured him and delivered him to the queen would of been much more believabe.
I may be wrong but I think this Borg Queen is the survivor of Adm. Janeway's viral infection from the final episode of Voyager. All the queens were connected. She's occupying the severely damaged trans-warp nexus she was in when that cascading explosion destroyed the Borg trans-warp network and she's been living off the remains of the drones around her
Yes , this is the canon Borg Queen of The movie The first Contact and Voyager Series... The borg Queen manage to survive the infection by using the the drones to keep regenerating it self... Self preservation... but in the end it killed most of the cube drones and being cutoff from the delta quadrant the link with the collective was severed beyond repair...
In the end all the Borg Queen had was scraps and a dying drone crew... But the alliance with ther rogue faction of the changelings gave the Queen the oportunity to rise again and get a new collective back...
Actually the story is pretty clever...
@@LordPaulusCobris I made my comment because Looper suggested she was the First Contact Queen
@@tonydagostino6158 and it is! Its the same Queen, but on that movie she went to the past but it informed the future queen (herself) about the humanity and event´s that happend on that movie... Later on we see that effect on the Voyager Series and now reconnected with the current day post virus borg queen...
Jameway severely damaged the Borgs ability to maintain their collective nature and detonated the transwarp conduit system that gave the borg their ability to cross great distances quickly.
This queen somehow heard jack's voice and set up with what little she had left in the storms of Jupiter. Over Jacks life she developed am alliance with the disgruntled changelings and developed the dna infection. Using the changelings to do it. While she consumed the drones on the ship ton
keep herself alive.
I believe this is the last iteration of the Queen from First Contact and voyager.
The need for copies being essential as time travel would cut the borg off from her in First Contact and render them without a control node.
I believe that was the end off the borg. And I believe it should be the end of the borg.
But theres always Jurati sonwhonthe hell knows.
Come up with a better monster
@@LgiovanniF , that is correct as Jurati is still watching The Gate /New Transwarp Tunnel that was created at the end Season 2 last episode & do to being her group job to watch /Guarding it which prevented her from helping Picard ,,
It has become by far my favourite of all the star trek series , I would happily say this is last season is 10/10 for me, the only regret I have is that the people who directed and wrote this final season, werent either available or given the freedoms to direct all of picard, because the majority of picard proceeding the last season was middling to average at best. While the last season was the best star trek ive seen .
Killing the Borg queen would not mean the end of the collective. She is a widget just like every other borg. She is just more complex. If the queen were to die the remaining Borg drones would either go back to being leaderless or they would select a species to target and assimilate one of them to make a new queen. It is also possible that there are multiple queens spread out across Borg space. Just like how bees do it. Each hive has a queen. It is possible we only ever saw one queen when there are in fact many.
Im so confused as to what happened to the S2 Borg
Actress died. Alice Krige is the original Queen
My question with this ist: What is with the Jurati Borgs from Season 2 or the Cooperative in the Delta Quadrant?
If the assimilation of star fleet was already in place and the changelings were working with the Borg, why did they need Picard’s body?
Can someone explain to me what happened to the borg queen that she appears in such a rough condition?
John de Lancie's son played Q's son, Q junior we'll call him, in Star Trek Voyager. That's the Q that should be partnered with Jack Crusher. Or is he Jack Picard now? 🤔
Didn't Jack just get thousands of people killed? As did the delays on destroying the cube to rescue Jack? Why is he being treated as a hero?
I agree 100%, I do not see him as a hero at all, I see him as a whiny bi*ch that got tons of good people killed because of his daddy issues. It was driving me crazy when they were wasting time while so many people were dying.
What happened to Wesley??? Seems to me the dynamic between him and Jack would’ve been an interesting “exploration.” 🤷🏾♂️
Wesley is a Traveler now. Rewatch Season 2, when Noonian Singh's 21st- century ancestor's plan to stop the space launch is thwarted. Good for Wesley, StarFleet would have been a frustratingly horrible waste of his...time.
@@ShyGuy1066 Aaaaahhh…thanks!
I wonder if Q's son will be Jack's "Guide" like his father was for Picard lol
Delaney will start getting even older and hours of shooting takes it's toll, great work everyone, fans too
The best season ever
first season was ok but really didn't like how treatred picard in it, and over the top ending with machine gods stuff, 2nd season to me was a mess, i reallly didn't care for it,but nice closure q and picard.
This season was best of bunch, still bit of issues here there but if turned off by last 2 seasons i give it a try.
I had a blast with season 3...but I'm so confused with the end of season 2. I thought we had a a new kindler gentler Borg with Jurati merging with the Borg queen. I won't even get into how that would've rewritten the timeline, but is the Borg truly gone? Also, I love Q, but he was dying...and now he's not. I know there are lots of other Q but the whole last act of kindness in season 2 doesn't have much weight if he's fine in the season 3 last episode stinger. God, when you introduce time travel it's a migraine
lets just say q lives for 4 trilion years, season 2 could have been the 3.9 trillion year old q while season 3's could have been 2.2 trillion year old Q. Hence why Q said humans think so linearly
Q at any time in his lifetime can visit any time of our timeline.
Okay but what has happened to the friendlier Queen Dr jurati borg ???
Where was Wesley??? :P all kidding aside not sure if they could do any better than they did. Was nearly perfect final chapter for TNG crew
Star Trek: Titan damned well better be the next series, with Capt. Seven and Rafi (Number one).
Sooo _which_ Borg Queen did we see in the final episodes, and how exactly did she get onto the cube on Jupiter?
what happened with borg from season 2 then?
Who is this Borg queen ? Its not the same one as in s2 so who is it ?
I found the destruction of the Borg in the finale to be somewhat dissatisfying. They got beaten so easily, but then after the hard nerfing they got in Voyager, I guess I shouldn't be wholly surprised. I still want to know how the Queen even survived Endgame anyway. There's a bunch of theories as to how the Borg Queen works, like just being a singular consciousness that takes over a new body when one expires, but it would still be nice if the show actually explained it.
I’m still wondering where the new borg from season 2 went.
Probably settling new worlds.
Plot hole. It was a stupid plot anyways
They cease to exist. The previous two seasons are no longer cannon since they are not Star Trek.
@@johnpglackin345 but everything else from those seasons exists, like Ralphie and 7s relationship.
@@HOCOsports and that's why no one should be watching this season as well. Since they have not truly apologize for ruining Star Trek. Seven of Nine needs to be dropped for her perverse behavior during the first two seasons. Rafi was a dumb character should have been dropped as well. They should have completely started over. And not use any of the characters or story elements from the previous two seasons.
Maybe I missed something, but I thought at the end of season 2 didn't the borg ask to join the federation?