Want To Nail Gilmour's Tone? Before Effects Pedals & Amps, Understand His **Phrasing**
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- If you really want to nail the legendary guitar tones of David Gilmour, or any of your six-string heroes, first you need to understand their phrasing
Life too short for long TH-cam videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
Welcome! Dan here. This started as a vlog idea. Sat here in TH-cam Gearvideoland, we are constantly bombarded with questions about the equipment our favourite players used to get certain tones. And we find ourselves constantly replying that focussing only on the gear is never going to get you there.
The next old chestnut to come out is that 'tone is all in the hands'. We LOVE this one - hold those hands up next to your ears. Can you hear that tone? No, of course you can't because the gear clearly plays a part too. It all matters.
The thing that links a player's hands with the gear is their approach and technique. And more than anything else, what marks a specific player out is their phrasing. That's why it's often said that you can plug David Gilmour into anything… and he'll sound like David Gilmour. In fact it was probably him who said it in the first place!
We think it's worth some time. Looking closely at a player's phrasing will get you closer to their sound than any boutique pedal. Not only that, but it's absolutely free to take and there's no three-year wait list!
Let's do this…
Gear in this episode
Dan
• 1965 Fender Telecaster
• Hook Amps Little Lenny II
hookamps.com/lenny/
• Matchless HC30
www.matchlessamplifiers.com/a...
• Grossman SG-FatBox Iso Cab with Greenback 20 Watt Celestion Speaker
grossmann-audio.de/en/shop-2/
• Kingsley Peasant Preamp
kingsleyamplifiers.com/product...
• Kingsley Page Boost
kingsleyamplifiers.com/product...
• Empress Compressor MkII
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3atbpUn
Australia: bit.ly/2OS1TCd
• Yamaha L1-01 Limiter
No longer made
• TheGigRig G3
www.thegigrig.com/g3
• UAD Apollo Twin Duo MkII
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3s7U0GK
USA: imp.i114863.net/yRgbyB
• UAD Pure Plate Reverb
www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/re...
• UAD EP-34 Delay Plug-In
www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/de...
• UAD Neve 1073 Preamp & EQ Plugin
www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/ch...
Mick
• 2017 Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335
No longer made
• Kingsley Maiden D
kingsleyamplifiers.com/product...
• Kingsley Page DS
kingsleyamplifiers.com/product...
• Chase Bliss Audio CXM1978
UK & Europe: bit.ly/31U6LKu
Australia: bit.ly/37R8McD
USA: bit.ly/3cOrwwe
• Two-Rock Classic Reverb Signature and Two-Rock 112 / WGS12L speaker
www.two-rock.com/classic-reverb/
• Hughes & Kettner Puretone and Zilla Custom 112 / WGS12L speaker
No longer made
Interesting bits and go-to sections
- Another Brick In The Wall Part 2 solo cover first section: 00:00
- What are we doing today?: 00:40
- Emulating your inspiration: 01:15
- The problem with chasing a ‘sound’: 01:50
- How important is the gear?: 02:10
- The importance of phrasing: 03:02
- Rockloe - / @rockloe : 03:35
- TheSwiety - / @theswiety : 03:40
- Gleyfy Brauly - / @gleyfybrauly : 03:46
- Same solo on the drums?: 04:20
- Different solo, same phrasing: 05:07
- Mick here, hello!: 06:05
- Unpicking the opening phrase: 06:45
- Rake and bends: 07:15
- 1 Learn The Rhythm: 07:45
- 2 Change Position: 08:10
- 3 Change Direction Of Travel: 08:45
- The MASSIVE Major 3rd Bend: 09:50
- Using this concept with other instruments: 11:40
- Gilmourish.com: 12:30
- How Dan Gets The Tone: 12:45
- It's not the right guitar…: 13:50
- …or amp, Hook Little Lenny II: 14:13
- The Speaker Cab - Grossman SG FatBox Iso Cab: 14:34
- UA Apollo Twin interface: 14:50
- Working with the direct tone EQ: 15:00
- The Pedalboard: 15:35
- Kingsley Peasant: 15:50
- Empress Compressor MkII: 16:05
- Adding a limiter after the compressor: 17:05
- Turning off the reverb in the amp: 17:30
- Cone Cry?: 18:05
- Direct tone in the mix, adding plugins: 18:25
- UAD Pure Plate and Neve 1073 Preamp plugins: 19:15
- Closing thoughts: 20:15
- Jamming with Gleyfy: 21:15
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Thanks for the shout out guys! Great episode! - Bjorn/Gilmourish
Thank YOU for your awesome work 🤓🙏
Gilmourish is one of the greatest rabbit holes on the internet. It's a labour of love.
Gilmourish is great and so is this video. Thank you both for the fantastic content. Love from down under.
Yes, I visited that site when I was looking for a good Univibe pedal. Great site.
I’ m a big fan of you !!
Dan says "this isn't rocket science.."
As someone that's done a bit of rocket science I concur. Rocket science is WAY easier than emulating Gilmour's tone.
...and I bet, rocket science is still easier than music theory. ;-)
@@Mr_Bollie As a former NASA contractor turned professional musician, I second that notion.
Two degrees in IT, 4 amps, seven guitars and I can't nail it
So, did you reach the dark side of the moon?
i am going to be a fly 🪰 in the ointment. i’ve heard the “tone” of dg’s on several songs and have found them not particularly alluring, if not harsh. why gilmour is so mesmerizing is his note choice, phrasing, and the air between those notes that allow them to breathe..
Fantastic video guys! 🙌🏻
👆this is the guy!! Outstanding
Not a bad day to get name dropped with DG @chrisbuck
You, sir, are among the best at phrasing. All the stuff they are saying about Gillmor applies to your work as well.
Cheers mate 🤓🙏
Yes, more of this please!
I kind of see TPS as an educational channel - be it pedals, amps or even mental health - rather than a gear channel and I thoroughly enjoy this. Keep it up lads
Absolutely. I totally agree.
David is absolutely one of THE GOATs. Never, ever, ever tire of hearing his mastership.
One of the best non-pedal episodes you’ve ever done. I’ve been waiting for years to see you guys do something on Gilmour. His playing is as unique and hard to nail down properly as I’ve ever heard. This did not disappoint. Keep it up!
Everything you guys do is so thoughtful and executed to such a high quality! Another great video packed full of insights - I’ve honestly learnt so much from the two of you and your videos give me a weekly dose of inspiration to go and play!
Just watched this again and Dan’s playing at the start is so good. 👏👏 The most resonant guitar lesson I’ve seen on the ‘tube in forever. Phrasing is everything!
Thanks Neil 🙏
The Gilmour feel is unmistakable. Also another good tip for learning feel is to practice some sax players licks on your guitar.
For sure! I did a few trumpet covers on my channel for that reason
This is great advice. Learning parts written on different instruments has really helped me break out of that "playing where your fingers take you" routine that's easy to fall into for intermediate guitarists
I couldn't agree more with this. I learned the sax solos to Will You by Hazel O'Connor and Just the Way You Are by Billy Joel and it taught me an amazing amount. Trying to work out how to get the same feel using bends and slides., and working out where to play it on the neck. You end up learning the same licks in 3 different places.
You also play licks that guitarists don't play, as they don't naturally fall under the fingers. Many of those licks have now worked their way into my subconscious and pop up in other solos, and those licks are often the licks that other players ask about, because they haven't heard them before, at least not on a guitar.
@@WharfRat4 nice! Just the way.... great choice
Exactly! Think about it, going all the way back to Charlie Christian, guitar players have often emulated either singers or horn players. Automatically makes your phrasing more "natural" because it's tied to breathing. Jeff Beck has said he's trying to "sing" with the guitar. Dave Gilmour actually took up the sax. And if you go back and listen to Eddie Van Halen, he did a LOT of horn-like stuff that swung like crazy!
I’ve been playing for over 40 years and you guys have opened my eyes on many subjects in the guitar/amp/pedal world as well as music in general. I thank you both from the bottomed my heart..
Love the bit on phrasing, it’s an integral part of tone indeed, which the channel is about. So glad you guys are taking this new direction. Would love more of this in forthcoming videos! As always, great job gents, thank you 🙏
GREAT Episode guys! I think you really hit the nail on the head with some of the aspects that make his playing so special. Gilmour has been one of my all time favorites and was one of the artists that inspired me to get into music full-time since 1985- and I've never looked back since. Thank You!
this is genius and beautiful. You and Mick bring such a love of the music and sounds. Its why TPS is the best thing going. You both have your own phrasing that brings everything to life and isnt elitist so rubbish guitarists like me feel involved and engaged. Thank you so much!!!!!
This is the only timed this has clicked, I feel I’ve instantly become. A better guitarists just using these ideas! Thank you so much. This is a masterclass
Fabulous lessons here. Great content. More like this!
Love the way you have adjusted your output to our current situation.
Holy moly, this was a WICKED lesson! So fun to discover what exactly it is that I love about his playing. Thanks guys!
Thx dudes. It was very cool. Please do more like this in the future.
A masterclass indeed. What I didn't expect was a sidelong unpacking of the brilliance of Mr. Chris Buck. Your analysis here shines a light on several things he does so well--and in the doing, you've revealed yet again what incredible players (and thinkers) you both are. Much love to all at TPS. Stay safe!
I hope there’s more of this style of video for years to come :) I love the gear breakdowns but this is game changing for players in my eyes. Thank you gents :)
I LOVE how you guys with our meeting us can really get inside our heads to make us RETHINK the fretboard!! You are BOTH. Great teachers!!
No, I have to thank you. You make me cry. This tone is amazing and you pay tribute properly. Amazing. Kudos...
This video clearly took a substantial amount of effort to produce. I enjoyed the balance of playing technique and gear talk. It was both practical/educational and entertaining. Way to keep things, fresh guys.
Loved that! Great episode, lots to think about and try to employ in my playing, recording and performing.
Dan, that ending.........that would bring a tear to a glass eye. Beautiful!
I have been watching your show for years now. I have probably seen every episode you guys have put out. This is one of my favorite episodes I’ve ever seen. The second y’all start talking about phrasing and you change the Notes and play the same freezing I feel like that’s going to be incredibly eye-opening for SSSSOOOOO many people. This makes me want to go back and do the same thing as an experiment myself. Well done fellas!
really interesting analysis, especially the breakdown of rhythmic phrasing
Best video I think I have ever seen you guys do - great concept, great execution and much more fun than *just* another gear vid. Thank you!
So genuine and straight to the point. One of the best videos I have seen recently. Cheers!
This should be a series. Great work!
So much detail, absolutely fascinating! 👍👍👍
This is fantastic. Absolute gold! Dans point on phrasing with different notes is so bang on
Great job here guys. Just getting the time to real dig in and appreciate it. Thank you.
Guys, this is one of the most brilliant, insightful and useful episodes yet! What really struck me was having Dougie play the solo on drums as a lesson in phrasing. I've got my pentatonic licks going my my phrasing really can use some help, so this will give me plenty to work on. P.S. Dan's collab at the end may break the internet!
I would LOVE for you guys to do more of the 'production' stuff - how to get a guitar part 'into the mix' and all that - would be really helpful and undoubtedly very entertaining... :-)
Keep up the good work guys!
Dan, outstanding! You Brooke the “CODE’” great explanation, thanks for all your great words to encourage all musicians. Cheers
Thanks Dan this is so great!!! You are a Mad scientist!!! Please please please MORE of these types of videos!!!!
Great vid How about a Gilmourish episode with Bjorn? I’d watch that over and over!
Yep, I came here to post exactly this. Please get Bjorn on the show someday :)
@@lewisjenkins8174 yes please do it !!
Bjorn on the show? YES, PRETTY PLEASE! ö.ö
Yeah, I'm down to clown with this
LOVE THIS VIDEO. Some of your best work boys! 👍💪
Cheers Cal
This is a great idea guys! Some very interesting concepts for me to add to my practice routine. Lovely Stuff!
Nice, guys. Really sound wisdom, there...thanks for sharing it. Thanks especially for continuing to provide great content under challenging circumstances. Love from North Carolina.
Great playing, Dan!
Dan, sometimes I forget how good a guitar player you are. Everything you played on this sounds so good, well done! Also, listening to you talk about tone makes me think I'm actually deaf. You hear so much more than I do in music. Your ears should be insured and I am truly humbled, cheers to you sir!
Ah, that’s too kind, cheers Rob 🤓🙏
Fantastic episode, Gilmour and That Pedal Show are my two biggest inspirations
Terrific stuff, Dan - thank you!
I know the key thing here is how/what he plays, but the creamy, vocal quality of the tone is so captivating. And a great compliment to what is being played.
Awesome video would like another episode like this in the future. I wish I had something like this to watch when I first started playing but I’ve been learning a lot from videos like this. Thanks for the awesome info.
You’re most welcome James 👍
@@ThatPedalShow no problem thanks for the awesome videos.
I've been waiting sooooo long for this!! Thanks so much!!
This was really good Dan! Well done on the editing and explanations, it was really clear and made a lot of sense.
As a fully devoted Gilmour cultist, the combination of TPS and study of Gilmour's playing is one the best videos I could've asked for.
Thank you for the immense level of joy this brought me!
Ah, cheers Bryan 🤓🙏
This was fantastic! You should make this a serious “nail the tone of...”!
That is the best I’ve heard you play Dan. Beautiful.
Loved the video format and the ideas on how to approach learning from our heroes.
TPS + DG = joy². Shame I can only like this video once.
Absolutely blown away by that first wrong notes solo, incredible work Dan. Also a fantastic proof provided by Doug. This is an amazing little resource you've created here.
Awesome video, nice work Dan. The jam at the very end wins the internet today!!
Great vid guys, a few things I hadn’t thought off. You certainly nailed the vibe.
who knew there was a hidden uncle Larry inside uncle Dan....so good
All dan is missing is the rolling rocks
Came here to drop an Uncle Larry comment, see you beat me to it haha! Little Danny Stienhardt, coming at ya from Aus!
@@Whitewallsessions BOOM great minds
hahahah
That's just the best. Yes, indeed. Can you believe how perfectly he nailed the little details about it! I'm just blown away. I thought I knew how to play that solo until Dan sent me back to the drawing board. LOL. We are all so lucky. I wish this world would have been at my fingertips when I was playing out in the late 80's/early 90's. Priceless.
Nice one! Much more interesting to achieve a similar tone with the "wrong" gear!
This is one of the best videos i‘ve ever seen! I think you‘re doing one of the most amazing guitar players a great honour!
Thanks for all, Dan and Mick!
👍👍😊
Did anyone else get the feeling the Hiwatt sitting behind Mick was going, 'uh, guys, um, I'm right here, y'know.'
Anyway, a superb video. I could listen to Dan talk all day about tweaking sound.
Mick here. The video is about not chasing the gear. That’s what it’s about. Or did we not really say that?
@@ThatPedalShow True, but it was just right behind you.
I find it marvelous that the YT community is in love with @Chris Buck. He plays and everybody gushes hahaha
Great video. Taking the fairly cerebral approach you guys have to pedals and extending that to guitar-playing as a whole is a great idea. I'd love to see more videos like these.
Guys - this was fantastic!! Thanks so much, Gilmour is a favorite of mine. Please keep doing this type of Series (SRV next????) . Love the channel!
Finally someone gets it. I spent years chasing Gilmour's tone with gear. I even put a mini switch on my Strat. It didn't work - I got _further_ away from what I was seeking. And then I worked out I should be paying more attention to *how* he played. A year later I was doing a passable (for me) impression. _On any guitar, with any amp._
OMG, the LEGEND Gleyfy Brauly! From Brazil to the world. Finally his talent was recognized.
Um abraço a todos os compatriotas, já que eu tenho certeza que a galera HUE não demora a começar a aparecer por aqui. :D
🤓❤️Gleyfy
Fato! Foi incrível ver o Gleyfy sendo mencionado neste canal! (Indeed! It was amazing to see Gleyfy being mentioned in this channel!)
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Love the different approaches of Dan and Mick! And the takeway is : "learn the vibe" ! Great video gents!
Oh and by the way, also loved the episode of Chris!
I love you guys! Thank you for keeping us company while in this mess 🔥
This was so many kinds of good and so helpful. You each were amazing, but damn, Dan. I am 3 days into this and just slain by how much you nailed the little things about this regarding pick attack and timing. I have known how to play this decently for 20 or more years and am such a David Gilmour fan. I have studied and cared about it and learned much, but am off to the wood shed on the things I thought I knew. You have raised the bar for me, sir. Well done and so tastefully executed.
Wow, cheers mate, I had a go. I will admit, it was really hard to do, but I learned so much in the process
@@ThatPedalShow Wow, I just posted and there you were. I feel touched by gods today! Seriously so inspired to dig in. Although underrated by fans and band members alike, Final Cut is worth a few listens. The parts and solos are impeccable as ever, well, as are all of those on The Wall, of course.
@@periloustemple8290 OMG YES! Vera Lynn still haunts me and I haven't listened to that album in decades.
Quote from Mr Steve Kimock from someone seeking how he gets his vibe going. Although he definitely gives a lot of tips on gear choices and very functional guitar setup, he goes on to say this...
"One more quick comment on the whole attitude, philosophy, approach, etc to "getting a sound".
The overwhelming majority of players from my own formative listening, the big influences for me, didn't come from that modern "get a sound" school where the idea is to try to get a sound out of the electric guitar.
The electric guitar is already a sound, you don't have to do anything, just turn it up and paint with the colors you got." --- Kimock
Of course, we all still like to try and sound like people we love with different gear and such, cause it's tons of fun!
Great video guys! Thanks a lot for all this amazing job.
Excellent job on this video! Hope you do more like this.
Doug screaming "YEAH!" while hitting a chord on a guitar is maybe the singularly greatest moment I have ever seen on TPS.
HahHHhHaha!
That’s Doug for you. What a character.
Holy hell, Batman! Mick - your second lick is literally in one of my solos on an unfinished demo, note-for-note, tempo-for-tempo, tone-for-tone. And, guess who was the first player who made me hear guitar in a way that made me want to play? Right. Shine on, you crazy diamonds!
Hahaha! That’s awesome Vince!
I heard a riff of mine from like '91/92 that I quit playing because I grew to not like in a song on the radio in around '05.
I appreciate this style of video. It balances out the tendency of the channel to focus on the gear rather than the playing. More, please!
This is even more fun and more interesting than the very good pedal demos. I had a great time watching this and grabbing my tele that looks just like yours!
I am what is commonly known in some circles as first. Thanks for all your work, Dan and Mick!
Dan, Ian Moss made me want to play guitar, his sound and style is instantly identifiable
Met Ian a few times, one of the nicest guys ever, true gent. And what a guitar player!!
Well done Dan! Lots of work! Thanks!
Best video you guys have done! You need to do more of this!!
Dan, you are such an inspirator. I know you don’t see yourself as a teacher, not now and not in the future, but in fact you are, and one of the greatest. Music & Love.
Ah, that’s very kind 🤓🙏
Dan: “See, it’s not rocket science”.
Me: (*looks up, stops booking online GCSE rocket science class, sighs*).
Great video guys - I think I have an awful lot of learning to do!!
Great video mate, thanks for this. That last jam is an absolute masterpiece !!.
Possibly your most interesting video ever. Really good.
The moment in dogs when the drum hits. Pause. Harmony guitar lead. This is my happy place.
Dogs is criminally under rated. One of my favorite PF songs. The 3rd solo makes me feel emotions that I never knew I had lol. And the ending "Who was born in a house...." just kicks so much ass, especially while playing it to a backing track. The outro solo to Pigs is also great. Animals is some of David's greatest guitar work. He truely is a king of tone.
@@frankbizzoco1954 I love animals. Great variety, feel and a really enjoyable album to listen to start to finish.
Dogs is also a great example for amazing phrasing (hey, it rhymes!). That first solo, with its first notes are coming (probably) 1/8th early and floating across the one.... it's pure pleasure.
@@Mr_Bollie I’m going to listen to it again right now!
"Join us next week, when Dougie will play all the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven on drums."
Outstanding Dan👏🏻
Dan, you're ear is amazing! Spending time with the famous players you and Mick do, you might not realize how great you are.
Re: singing your solos: the standards version of John Etheridge springs to mind. Not sure if Pass, Montgomery, Benson and the like sang along to solos on record, but Erroll Garner did, albeit on piano. My teacher tried to get me to do it, but I just got embarrassed about my singing voice, and couldn't do it at pace. Sadly my knowledge of jazz guitarists is not exhaustive.
Keith Jarrett was famous for singing while playing. What it does is make your fingers and mind think of phrases in smaller singable pieces. Do it now and stick with it; it will change your whole relationship to music, within your playing as well as regarding ALL music you hear
@@ricardorodriguez5549 Yes! I had the honor of being his page turner at a concert at Lincoln Center - he was delving into classical - this was 1993 perhaps - and he hadn't memorized the piece so I got to sit next to him and turn the pages - he was singing much of what he played - a Mozart Concerto I think - I'll have to google.
You don't have to sing out loud if it makes you unsure, even humming along quietly through phrases you are unsure of may help. I'm kind of coming from the other direction, I sang for many years before taking up the guitar. I had to learn Wish You Were Here for guitar class a couple of years ago and being able to sing the vocal helped me learn the phrasing. It was interesting to hear all about the studio set up and what differences that could make to the sound too.
We lost this week Rupert Neve ! Please a little piece on his massive effect on our music !!
Amazing video chaps as always. Covered so many aspects!
That was properly brilliant. Thank you so much
David Gilmour is the Frank Sinatra of guitar players.
When the Wall came out I learned every guitar part on the album ... no effect pedals whatsoever.
What I realized about DG’s playing/phrasing was that he writes symphonic & jazz parts. This solo reminds me of a saxophone. Parts of Comfortably Numb sound violin & cello and so on.
You’ve got it exactly right. He plays MUSIC instead of picking guitar. It’s a fundamental mental orientation. His playing was for me a doorway into this way of thinking, feeling time and communicating collaboratively with band mates and listeners
Well, no surprise he is an excellent Saxophone player!
Yep, and he also sings his solos/parts (sometimes during the take, WYHW title track & Any Colour You Like).
That's something I can't do yet. My voice is terrible.
Mick: "It's really hard to take a whole Gilmour solo and just changing all the notes."
Me: "Pfff, I do that every time..."
Hahahaha!!!
Love the videos like this. Keep it up!
Bring Bjorn from Gilmourish please!
My Uncle was a Gilmour nut. He was in a Pink Floyd tribute band forever. He was telling me yesterday, in fact about a conversation he had with Pete Cornish. He was frustrated...couldn't nail the tone. Pete told him just get such and such amp and such and such delay pedal...and there it was. 2 things that were a bit expensive even then but he says it was almost perfect. I wish I remembered what gear he said but I'm new to guitar so it went in one ear out the other. I will ask him again if anyone is interested.
I’d love to know
@@alecyeager6624 65 Twin Reverb and a Cornish delay he says.
@@questocd174 Awesome, thanks
Awesome video guys! Immaculate playing from Dan... vibratos are spot on!
Amazing video. Loved the drum phrasing section
In fact the first guitar player that inspired me before I ever thought, I‘m gonna get good enough to play solos was rick parfitt.
Add Francis Rossi and Angus And Malcolm and I’m right with you. Mick here