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How David Gilmour Uses Stacked Compression

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
  • If you’ve found compressors a little bit difficult to get into or would just like some ideas on some practical uses for compressors, what kind of playing styles they work with or how to mix them with other effects, this should be helpful.
    Signal Chain:
    CS-3 - Cali 76 - Dyna Comp - Big Muff - Tube Pilot - CE-2 - DD-8
    The MXR Dyna Comp is probably the compressor most associated with David Gilmour. I’ve set this one to do the most extreme compression out of the three. If you ever want to test a compressor to listen exactly to what it’s doing to the signal this is a great way to do it, play soft, then play hard. Then listen to how the compressor reacts. An extremely compressed sound is nice for certain things but I’m not too keen on it through an amp set really clean, I can hear and feel the pumping effect a bit too much, it sounds unnatural and feels a bit weird.
    If you turn your amp up, when you play hard, you get a bit of natural valve compression or tube compression. Combining the Dyna Comp with the natural compression of the amp makes the compression sound that is coming from the pedal a little less noticeable, it doesn’t sound or feel as weird. It’s causing signal to stay right on the cusp of sending the amp into overdrive and the compressor pedal is helping the signal stay at that level no matter whether you're playing gently or really digging in. There’s also a slight mid boost that happens with a lot of these OTR guitar pedal type compressors. Through a really clean amp that mid boost can sometimes sound a little harsh and aggressive but now it’s going through the amps natural valve compression that 2nd stage of compression helps even things out. I really like this sort of tone for the iconic solo in Another Brick In The Wall Part 2
    I'm using a more subtle setting on the CS-3, bear in mind that David Gilmour is better known for using the Boss CS-2 but this is just what I have. This is the sort of sound that I think is good for evening out clean funky percussive rhythm parts like in Another Brick In The Wall Part 2 or to fatten and even out clean articulate lead lines like in the lead playing near the start of Shine On You Crazy Diamond parts 1-5.
    The Origin Effects Cali76 is a bit of a more sophisticated studio style compressor. I’ve set this one for parallel compression where I’ve mixed the clean signal back in with the compressed signal. This way you can have quite a highly compressed setting that might be a bit over the top on its own, but then you can mix the clean sound back in to make it sound more natural and transparent but still adding that fat thickening sound you get from compressors.
    That’s a pretty heavily compressed sound but now listen to it with the clean signal mixed back in and I hope you can hear how it’s adding a lot of the natural transients and dynamics back in but there’s this thickness to the sound. It’s a great compressor setting if you don’t like the sound of those more traditional guitar pedal compressors.
    Now for stacking the compressor pedals. I’ll start with mixing the two more mild compressors the CS-3 and the Cali 76. The best way I can think to describe this sound is a heavy compression that is at the same time quite transparent. It's different to the sound of the MXR dyna comp which is a heavy compression but adds a lot more colour and pumps the volume more obviously. I like this dual compression sound for fattening the lead to solos that have a little bit of drive like the solo to Money, it evens the amount of input that’s being sent to the overdrive pedal so you have a more consistent amount of gain and notes higher up the neck never really get thin like they sometimes can on a strat.
    Now I’ll include some fuzz and distortion. I think David Gilmour often uses an overdrive pedal after his fuzz to reshape the tone, a lot of fuzz pedals like this Electro Harmonix Big Muff have a mid scooped sound to them and running an overdrive pedal after them reshapes the EQ so that they’re a bit more focused and cut through a mix a little better. Notice how because we’re using compression and multiple gain stages you don’t need as much gain on the overdrive and distortion pedals which in themselves are a type of compressor as well.
    Timecodes:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:12 - Heavy Compression (Dyna Comp)
    01:40 - Tube Amp Compression
    02:05 - Heavy Comp + Tube Amp Compression
    03:53 - Medium Compression (Boss CS-3)
    06:10 - Parallel Compression (Cali 76)
    08:20 - Summary of Settings
    08:50 - Stacked Compressors with Overdrive
    11:15 - Stacked Compressors Clean and with Fuzz

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  • @brianbelet2004
    @brianbelet2004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    5-star tutorial all around; probably the best, and clearest discussion of compression I have encountered. Thanks for posting this!

    • @autosmiley1532
      @autosmiley1532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think exactly the same 😎👍

  • @jonny1251
    @jonny1251 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I really like that a lot of your gear can be easily found and are widely available to the general public.

  • @moustachio334
    @moustachio334 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love compressors. Especially the simple MXR.

  • @soundknight
    @soundknight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +437

    The most compression is coming out of TH-cam...

    • @ourclarioncall
      @ourclarioncall ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is there any way to make video audio better in light of this compression? Often wondered if there was an optimal way of recording the sound of guitar valve amps for TH-cam

    • @ourclarioncall
      @ourclarioncall ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamescerone thanks James , that’s interesting

    • @nikolaki
      @nikolaki ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Haha. Different type of compression though.

    • @bumstudios8817
      @bumstudios8817 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ourclarioncall I’m no expert but recording to a amp sim on computer is probably the best way to record guitar

    • @anthonydallarosa8314
      @anthonydallarosa8314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

  • @gameoftones77
    @gameoftones77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have watched countless videos about compression, including videos by mick and Dan, but you sir did the best job of explaining it and demoing it of them all!!

  • @albertplaysguitar
    @albertplaysguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Definitely the best video on compression I've seen. Took me forever to really get the point of having a comp pedal. This video made it easy to understand.

    • @azuraq25
      @azuraq25 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice vid dude! Just getting into effects & recording so this was helpful.

  • @josephwright5921
    @josephwright5921 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Reverb seems to be a wonderful companion with compression, as it seems to smooth things out even more and provide a soft sonic space for notes to trail into the distance.

    • @experimentalsoundrecordings
      @experimentalsoundrecordings ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And delay. Pink Floyd used a ton of it.

    • @josephwright5921
      @josephwright5921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @I Angst Yes, Gilmore is a pioneer in the tasteful use of audio effects

    • @runreilly
      @runreilly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reverb before or after compression?

    • @experimentalsoundrecordings
      @experimentalsoundrecordings ปีที่แล้ว

      @@runreilly I usually run reverb before compression unless you run it in a effects loop.

  • @justinpridham7919
    @justinpridham7919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't normally comment but well done. It was really worth the 14 min ride. Your presentation is working well on this video media, I hope you're doing well by this. Would recommend.

  • @Jamestele1
    @Jamestele1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The combination of that beautiful Strat with the compression is a perfect sound. I've tried to emulate it on my Tele, which is close, but what you get out of that Strat is music to my ears

  • @MrNeurotix
    @MrNeurotix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    compression is the most underrated, yet widely used effect. thanks for another fantastic informative video!

    • @disthymia6929
      @disthymia6929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My favorite uses of one that are probably unconventional are using it as a solo boost or pseudo-attenuator after my drives or in an FX loop.

    • @jimmydriveway
      @jimmydriveway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It can’t be widely used and under rated at the same time. Lol.

    • @deathoftheendless001
      @deathoftheendless001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jimmydriveway I think what he meant about that is that it's not celebrated as much as distrotion, fuzz, or reverb.

    • @shawnshipstad9281
      @shawnshipstad9281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, this guy does not see the big pitcure.

    • @terrysteward
      @terrysteward 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have my Compression on all the time,on my GP100

  • @robertwalsh782
    @robertwalsh782 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Gilmour has stated that he did not utilize a guitar amplifier for his solo on Another Brick in the Wall, but rather plugged his axe directly into the mixing board. Subsequent signal processing is anyone's guess - but yeah, definitely compression is involved. He stated this in an interview with Guitar Player magazine sometime back in the 80's when I had a subscription to said publication. For what it's worth.

    • @xenod1066
      @xenod1066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My understanding is that he was plugged in to the desk, and running through multiple stages of compression and gates, and re-amped through a Mesa Boogie with light preamp drive.
      Also he was using a '50s Les Paul gold top with p90s. Everyone assumes it's a strat, as did I. I think you can really hear the gates too.

    • @robertwalsh782
      @robertwalsh782 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@xenod1066 That's really interesting. Sounds about right. That P90 tone is so luxurious. That's all I play personally. All my axes are loaded with P90's. Yeah, you can really feel the abrupt decay of the gates on that piece.

    • @ogmakefirefiregood
      @ogmakefirefiregood หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I remember the days of "Guitar Player for the practicing musician"
      Those were good days. So much has changed.

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      At the time Pink Floyd (and their producer for The Wall) were highly aware of what the top LA session guys were up to, and even got Lee Rittenhauer in to help on the album, as well as a top session drummer on a couple of parts. So they knew about the "desk tones" that defined 80s clean guitar, which is a technique that goes back much further with the likes of Nile Rogers.
      The key to a good desk tone is lots of compression, because that's the main thing that makes a DI guitar tone sound full. The other part is to avoid strat bridge pickups on their own. "in between" tones are where it's at. Then plenty of modulation (or the famous Eventide micro pitch effect), reverb and delay.
      Pink Floyd used all the latest technology and techniques on that album, just as they had on previous albums. They liked to keep up with what was going on. They always did their homework. "Run like Hell" used dotted 8th note delay for example, which at the time was still a pretty new trick that few guitar players had mastered.

    • @robertwalsh782
      @robertwalsh782 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Patrick-857 Another Brick in the Wall is decidedly a disco track. As such, it is only natural that recording methods of the era were utilized in the production. You are quite correct in stating that the direct-to-deck method was very popular at that time. Everyone from Steely Dan to the Bee Gees was plugging straight into the console.

  • @steveturner6770
    @steveturner6770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent demonstration. Thanks for taking the time out to do this.

  • @stratcat688
    @stratcat688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great tutorial. I enjoyed how you took the time to and clearly showed how the pedals interact with each other.

  • @jordynhodge9237
    @jordynhodge9237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i always wondered how David Gilmour made those amazing riffs sound the way he does.You have made it understandable so thanks! keep the cool videos coming!

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wrong information video.
      MXR isn't school kids making individual pedals.
      Its a professional factory that makes a SET of mix & match pedals for the professionals.
      The professional doesn't go to MXR and buy 1 red pedal.
      Lunatic thrifty idiots buy 1 pedal.
      The red pedal doesn't work without the green sparkle pedal at the end of the signal chain.

    • @LeviBulger
      @LeviBulger ปีที่แล้ว

      He never stacked compressor pedals. This video is embellishing that.

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv ปีที่แล้ว

      Gilmour makes his solos sound the way he does because he plays freakin amazing. Even without comp his playing would knock your head off. Compression just helps him keep it centered in the mix.

  • @ericbergmueller2981
    @ericbergmueller2981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you chose good musical examples to demonstrate compression. I had never thought of stacking them, but now i need to try.

  • @lanthaniated1
    @lanthaniated1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome demo, compression and sustain really helps with nuances, especially DG bends and trailing notes.

  • @ilyrican
    @ilyrican 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I literally just discovered your channel a couple of minutes ago. Let me say this, besides your undoubtedly deep and informative knowledge on guitar gear (thanks for sharing btw), you are a really, really good guitar player! I just love stumbling on channels like these. A true gem.

    • @kitesupskate1456
      @kitesupskate1456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      …if i would be Michael Banfield, I would be really happy with your comment. (I felt like someone needed to say that :)

  • @anthonystewart6044
    @anthonystewart6044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think I've seen a better vid on compression. Well done. 😎

  • @squirelova1815
    @squirelova1815 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has to be one of the world's most Superbly educational channels for serious aspiring and even Pro level musicians; not just "gear heads" but musicians that want to really want to quickly learn how to maximize equipment usage and minimize problems. There's a treasure trove of very useful knowledge here that I could not even have found anyone to Pay to teach me, IF they even would that is, and IF I could have even found someone like Michael here when I was a kid.

  • @drcockles
    @drcockles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For a compressor with a great blend and lots of versatility the Thorpy FX Fat General is amazing

  • @DEATHRAYCAT
    @DEATHRAYCAT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I keep coming back to your channel to learn about pedals I haven't figured out yet. This was great, thank you!

  • @Fedethedangerous95
    @Fedethedangerous95 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know when I'm gonna put it to good use, but for the first time I think I actually understand how to use compressors, thank you. definitely saving it in my favorites

  • @glassslide
    @glassslide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video---awesome tones and a fantastic tutorial on how to achieve them, thanks!!

  • @allatsea2746
    @allatsea2746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    VERY nice! Subscribed! I used to have a Dynacomp and just loved how this thing eats transients. Then got a Diamond Compressor, but for the last 5 years or so my main comp has been a Vahlbruch Quantum; a very quiet, transparent pedal that also offers a switchable parallel mode. Highly recommended.

  • @raiderjohnthemadbomber8666
    @raiderjohnthemadbomber8666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that last set up really brings something to the table. Thanks for the lesson!

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My pleasure. Glad you're into that fuzzy glorious mess for the last setup, it was a lot of fun to play.

  • @showpony321
    @showpony321 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it. Straight to the point and very informative. Superb playing, too. Thanks, Michael!

  • @edgardvera3132
    @edgardvera3132 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While the experts and conosceurs debate on what compression is, all I’m going to say is that I enjoyed listening to what the pedals do to the music you played so masterfully.

  • @enioantunesrezende5330
    @enioantunesrezende5330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent. Reducing the gain level in the distortion fuzz overdrive pedal when using a compressor a very important rule. For A Holdsworth tone as well

  • @dr_tomK
    @dr_tomK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Michael. First video I've seen of yours but also one of the most useful I've seen in awhile. I just bought a Cali 76 for a George Harrison/Beatles inspired board I'm building (Dr. Robert fuzz, Jext Telez white pedal, Keeley 30 ms). I've got a Boss CS-3 I've had for years sitting around. Definitely going to try stacking compressors. This was quite inspiring. Cheers.

  • @FitzyStrings
    @FitzyStrings ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Concise presentation. No BS. Well done, mate :)

  • @BazzyPredPop
    @BazzyPredPop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you this is a really interesting and useful and thought-provoking video never thought about stacked compression and regardless of what people say about it coming through a little iPad speaker. The whole point is to inspire you to get a couple of compressors and start experimenting for yourself ✊ so thank you. I’m about to go and do that now 👍

  • @davidrapant6398
    @davidrapant6398 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man Nice playing! I just started playing with compression and I dialed in a sustain for days setting. Its really a huge difference and what i used to think was just the sound of a Strat I'm finding it really brings that particular sound out a lot more. Really a great video on compression and what it does. You can talk about it for days but hearing it is way better and i can definitely hear it well demonstrated here. Thanks for the great video!! Subbed!!

  • @rolandrichards39
    @rolandrichards39 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Probably the best demonstration to explain that Gilmore sound.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's very kind! There are plenty of people who are far more knowledgeable than me about the exact gear that Gilmour used but I hope this video at least helps people learn some different ways of using compression. Thanks for commenting!

  • @srwaite7
    @srwaite7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Single coil pickups with some compression dialed in is magic 👍🏻🎸🖖🏻

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not the famous vintage sound by MXR.
      You've got the sound of an incomplete signal.

    • @robertwalsh782
      @robertwalsh782 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Especially if it is P90's!

  • @tripijb3162
    @tripijb3162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive!!!! Best video of how to use a compressor, ever!!! Inside a chain, as it should be!!

  • @timwhite5562
    @timwhite5562 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I've had a bit of a compression obsession forever. My favorite compression to this day is still an old tried and true Dyna Comp. If you were to list out at the things people want out of a compressor: transparent; headroo; no pump; retaining picking dynamics, etc the Dyna Comp would rate dead last, it has all those things in spades. Still, single coils through a clean amp with the comp between 9:00-10:00; it's glorious. It has a percussive click that no other compressor has. I've built scores of compressors over the years, most based off Dyna Comps/Ross compressors. The only real difference between the Dyna and the Ross are two pairs of resistors. The Dyna uses a higher value than the Ross, and that's where the click is. They use different opamps too, but that doesn't really effect how they compress.
    I bought a Keeley Compressor Plus several years when it came out. I had the original two knob, which I paid well over $200 back in 2005-06. The Plus was half the price and everyone raved about it, so I sold the two knob and bought one. I kept for two weeks, returned it and bought a used 4 knob, which just the two knob with the two internal knobs moved to the outside. Even with the blend on the Plus, the old circuit is far more transparent. You have to dial it in more, but when you do it's just cleaner. The Plus adds a high end that can't be dialed out, and the input gain is preset really high. Even with the blend all the way down I can still hear it.
    Plus you can get them for like $80 used. I'm confident that in a few years they're going to be one of those pedals that just flies up in value. Everyone uses comp now, but there aren't as many of those floating around as other pedals, due to the price and the fact that compression just wasn't as ubiquitous as it is today.
    *Try putting a tube screamer, or anything with a mid-hump in front of a Muff. Roll the gain back and the volume set for unity, or just a slight bump. It's the amazing Strat lead tone. It sounds more like running through a dimed stack. You get the sustain of the Big Muff, but with all the pick attack that you usually don't get. It makes even the thinnest bridge pickup sound HUGE.

    • @robertwalsh782
      @robertwalsh782 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I built two compressors back in the 80's from mail-order DIY kits based on Craig Anderton's wonderful book "Electronic Projects for Musicians." I used them for mastering reel-to-reel recordings. Everyone warned me against it , saying "You'll get transient artifacts like 'pumping' and 'breathing'." My response to that was simply "That's exactly what I'm after!" All of these supposedly deleterious side effects are precisely what makes compressors absolutely invaluable to me.

    • @timwhite5562
      @timwhite5562 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robertwalsh782 👍 indeed

  • @lucyfuir6386
    @lucyfuir6386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been playing guitar for over 30 years and bass for 15. The 1st time I used compression was when I was learning to pedal my fingers on bass. Now I use it on everything. Especially when I record drums for my demos

  • @Dang...
    @Dang... 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and informative, thank you. Your bends and vibrato are really good!

  • @paull8678
    @paull8678 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid. I have a Keeley Compressor Plus that has a blend knob that allows you to mix clean signal with your compressed signal. I guess my only gripe with it is that it has a switch to control attack rather than a knob, but it's still a great pedal.

  • @Bairov
    @Bairov 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you kicked on the compressors before the fuzz that was the sound mate! ❤

  • @cerclesvicieux
    @cerclesvicieux ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. I can actually hear the compression more than I can on other reviews, even whey you're not stacking them. Thank you, I have a better idea of how compression sounds.

  • @chusssMusic
    @chusssMusic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Thanks for all your efforts

  • @grbguitar11
    @grbguitar11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Interesting Video Thankyou. Highlights how vital Good Compressor is. Cheers

  • @Meylan191083
    @Meylan191083 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have a new subscriber from this video. I am in the process of putting together pedalboard options and Gilmour is one of my favourite guitarists. Will definitely be adding an extra compressor or two now.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome aboard! Have fun putting that new pedalboard together, hope this video helped a little. Thanks for commenting

  • @nigelwallis9223
    @nigelwallis9223 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really interesting video, very well done. I’ve learned something thank you 👍

  • @vikingsofvintageaudio7470
    @vikingsofvintageaudio7470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I record a lot and usually it's at least one compressor in the beginning of the signal chain, one at the end and then one on the master bus. So this makes a lot of sense 👍

  • @user-jg4yg9hp2h
    @user-jg4yg9hp2h ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Michael I just started watching your videos and I think they are fantastic! As an almost intermediate guitarist with a boss RC 600 Im starting to get my head around the effects and came up with a really cool chorus sound after your boss chorus pedal comparison so cant wait to try this out on my rc 600 even though I don't have valve!

  • @ViniBeber
    @ViniBeber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Breaking paradigms for everyone who doesn't like compression pedals

  • @ix-Xafra
    @ix-Xafra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started using a POD XT PRO for live solo work 20 years ago and you can stack compression with that which I did . Works well...

  • @citizencyclops406
    @citizencyclops406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful video, wonderful information, wonderful playing. I was in college when The Wall came out and was completely confused and obsessed by the guitar sound in Another Brick in the Wall. It’s nice to know wence it came.

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong and wrong.
      MXR IS a SET of pedals.
      1 pedal can't activate the famous vintage sound by MXR.

  • @tgorycki6825
    @tgorycki6825 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! I was waiting for a UniVibe to kick in at the end. I was experimenting with Gilmour's tone in AmpliTube and found this signal chain to be pretty close: Noise Gate > Dyna Comp > Maestro Fuzz Tone > Chandler Tube Overdrive > Echoplex > Uni-Vibe > Fender Twin Reverb Silverface (all effects in front of the amp). Some post amp Hall reverb mixed in. Different pedals on/off depending on song and section.

  • @jameskaihatu6209
    @jameskaihatu6209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a CS-3 and never got on with it so I sold it and went off compressor pedals entirely. Then my band decided to add country songs, and compression is a necessary component (especially with hybrid picking) so I got a Keeley Compressor Plus, and now that pedals is always on. It really tames the high frequencies of a Tele bridge pickup.

  • @rumplebunny
    @rumplebunny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Very nice. I've stacked compression at times over the years but I've never once even thought about parallel compresion, always just ran them in series. That parallel sound is what I've been chasing. Man, it just never even occurred to me to try that with compression even though I've done parallel processing with other effects heh. Thank you!

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have NO idea MXR red pedals can't be used without the green carbon copy delay pedal either.
      The red pedal by itself won't make the vintage sound.

    • @stephenburkett9193
      @stephenburkett9193 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you aware that the Carbon Copy is a modern MXR pedal and did not exist until decades after the Dyna Comp was released?

  • @1millioneggs3
    @1millioneggs3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video was great timing. I was just searching for Dyna Comp demos and this came up.
    I am going to have to try the Dyna Comp into overdrive. I didn't realise that was the secret to getting those notes to stick in the Another Brick in the Wall solo.
    Excellent video. I've been finding your demos really refreshing. Thank you and keep up the great work.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you! Yeah the Dyna Comp into a light overdrive is glorious! I got best results when combining it with the amps natural overdrive. If you're thinking of using a pedals overdrive sound I'd recommend something very natural sounding with a full and fairly even frequency response, a Boss OD-3, Nobels ODR-1, Full Tone OCD, or just a good 'amp in a box' type pedal should work well. I wouldn't recommend a mid focused OD like Tubescreamer or SD-1. If you watch the Money solo section on stacked compression with overdrive, you might be able to hear how I was getting too much mids coming through when I was combining the Dyna Comp with the Tube Pilot. That was my experience anyway, the tone of your guitar, amp and speakers all play a part as well. Thanks for commenting!

    • @1millioneggs3
      @1millioneggs3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Yep, I will try amp overdrive and also Boss OD-3. I recently obtained an OD-3 second hand after watching one of your videos. I really enjoy it. I might give the BD-2 a go too.
      Thanks for the tip of keeping away from the mid-focussed overdrives for this application.
      So much to explore now!

  • @kyzor-sosay6087
    @kyzor-sosay6087 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I heard Lowell George stacked compression too, I tried it,liked it,continue to use two compression pedals,sounds good.

  • @EthanRMus
    @EthanRMus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always super helpful videos, thank you!

  • @proletar-ian
    @proletar-ian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve had a dyna comp for a while now without knowing what to do with it. Definitely have some ideas now!

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It won't make the vintage sound by itself.
      The final pedal must be the green carbon copy delay pedal.
      If you don't use the SET of MXR pedals, you'll never hear the vintage sound designed by MXR.

  • @erikechegaray2475
    @erikechegaray2475 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great demo on compression pedals!

  • @joecastro6523
    @joecastro6523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a Bass player I've used stacked compression in my rig for years, it's a must for any player to be able to understand and use compression, I discovered the doubling and sometimes even trippling my compression for some great variation of Suttle to all out squash compression, especially for slapping and tapping on the bass, it can really make things pop.

    • @brianwarner308
      @brianwarner308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you better calm down...

    • @3Torts
      @3Torts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianwarner308 ...Relax.

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, and from row 10 onwards nobody can hear your sound cause its TOO LoFi it got lost.
      The piano beat you every time you played a note.
      Miles Davis just whips your arse with that trumpet.

  • @PaulWilliams-xz3mz
    @PaulWilliams-xz3mz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video and wonderful playing
    I'm quite new to all this stuff so you are a fantastic help to me, thank you 👍

  • @mikaso
    @mikaso 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a very good demonstration, enjoyed it very much. Subscribed!

  • @richardlabbe
    @richardlabbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video and you’re a great player. Thank you!

  • @christianboddum8783
    @christianboddum8783 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To control where you hit the breaking point of tubes is very important, compression or limiting can help that along the way. I use the LA compressor in my Helix on all presets to smoothe the signal a little befor hitting the amps. In a traditional setting I've employed the Carl Martin limiter/compressor as a limiter to take the peaks of my rhythm playing while keeping the soft dynamics intact. It has worked very well in worship where it's place before my first drive, it's a beautiful thing!

  • @wadehandy3462
    @wadehandy3462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had 60's Tremolux as a teen (80's) with which I used a distortion pedal... I let a guy use it and he had a compressor which got it sounding its best ever. It was wild.

  • @davidshields948
    @davidshields948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Great info, really well explained.

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool idea. I have a few affordable compressors.I love the Tone Corset by EHX and the Love Squeeze by Rothwell.

  • @alexandrebeauvilain6488
    @alexandrebeauvilain6488 ปีที่แล้ว

    super super interesting, and very well explained. Thanks.

  • @davidwoods358
    @davidwoods358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I always thought people would think I was crazy for stacking compressor pedals. Sometimes it's the only way I can get the note bite I need and also the correct feel through the strings. If used correctly on digital equipment, modellers, etc. you certainly can't tell the difference in feel between the digital and a really, really good tube amp.

    • @MichaelBanfieldGuitar
      @MichaelBanfieldGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah, that could be a video all of it's own. How to set a compressor to emulate a pushed tube amp. For certain sounds they can do that very well, especially for playing and practising at home.

    • @toddsanders7885
      @toddsanders7885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      David Gilmore wouldn’t have thought that! Ha!

    • @andywalex
      @andywalex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wouldn't worry about what people think, I've seen plenty of guitar players that don't even know why they put a compressor in their signal chain.

    • @paulbangash4317
      @paulbangash4317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can bloody well tell the difference.
      Each to his own.

    • @attilin
      @attilin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichaelBanfieldGuitar please do it ! It would be so interesting 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @thomasd9237
    @thomasd9237 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for posting this 👍👍

  • @GuitarraLibre
    @GuitarraLibre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video! 👏

  • @alexmurphy5289
    @alexmurphy5289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video. I haven’t ever bought a compressor because I use humbuckers but I definitely love the feel of natural amp compression. Thanks for this

  • @douglasmayhall8279
    @douglasmayhall8279 ปีที่แล้ว

    very useful info, and great presentation.. many thanks..

  • @gazb2069
    @gazb2069 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deffo try the behringer comp based on the boss one in this vid if your still on the fence about getting a comp, great introduction to compressors.

  • @cdreyes81
    @cdreyes81 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was eye opening

  • @RDFB101
    @RDFB101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very interesting
    Loving the shine on that Strat 🤩

  • @RomainBigeardGuitar
    @RomainBigeardGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Boss CS-2, it's really special (and was on Gilmour's board in the 80s). They're not too hard to find, it's worth having one.

  • @dietersdawgs
    @dietersdawgs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice job....you actually are on topic unlike a lot of guitar videos which go off on random tangents lol!

  • @nathankellstadt412
    @nathankellstadt412 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great topic & video.

  • @casaroli
    @casaroli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m really impressed how the guitar stayed in tune after those bends. Hahah

  • @tungtobak
    @tungtobak ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best cheap compressor I've tried is the Ampeg Opto Comp. I actually bought several, use it for both bass and guitar. I never hear anyone talk about it. Optical compressors are definitely my favourite. I have a Dynacomp but I find it noisy for recording.

  • @vladimird5280
    @vladimird5280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a solid video tutorial/experiment.

  • @sidmazzei
    @sidmazzei ปีที่แล้ว

    you have just opened a new door to me. thank you!

  • @JohanSegeborn
    @JohanSegeborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and wonderful playing!

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrong johan.
      1 MXR pedal can't activate the famous vintage sound by MXR.
      The poverty-stricken class is using the wrong perspective on pedals.

  • @kurtweiand7086
    @kurtweiand7086 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am bedroom jammer, for me a compressor is a must! Along with small tube amps you can get a real satisfying 😌 sound!

  • @paulbellamy2810
    @paulbellamy2810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video. I used a CS-2 for years and foolishly sold it. Although, it has to be said, it was pretty damn noisy. Now I'm thinking of the CP-1x as a suitable replacement. I like the hard, definite percussive thwack you get from high settings, which is something I used a lot. Addendum: I hope you get to doing some longer videos because your presentation is first class; no nonsense, no waffle, tons of good info.

    • @eph_kni
      @eph_kni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi paul! some versions of the CP-3 can be modded to have a much lower noise floor and a more flexible range of settings. reverb is a great source for finding these modded boss compressors but if youre feeling advantageous with your soldering skills, the mod is relatively easy

    • @karlmartin849
      @karlmartin849 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own an early 80's cs-2 and have never found it to be noisy. My other favourite compressor is the Jam Dyna-ssoR.

    • @paulbellamy2810
      @paulbellamy2810 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karlmartin849 Well there you go then. Maybe a different use case, because I know I'm not the only one to have said how noisy it is. I love the squish of the thing, but way too noisy.

    • @karlmartin849
      @karlmartin849 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulbellamy2810 Have you tried finding a way to eliminate the noise?

    • @paulbellamy2810
      @paulbellamy2810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@karlmartin849 Yeah, I sold it. :D

  • @joesmith8398
    @joesmith8398 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spot on The Wall solo !!

  • @RUAV2TWIN
    @RUAV2TWIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eye opening - great info - I`m off to get a pedal or two or three.. Cheers.

  • @denekawa
    @denekawa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video sir!

  • @justinbryson9053
    @justinbryson9053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos and that strat is gorgeous. Reminds me of my mij 62 reissue

  • @deeran656
    @deeran656 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're getting close, thank you and cheers 🍺🍺🍺

  • @joshualacey8828
    @joshualacey8828 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great sounds !!

  • @antonyfaulkner8649
    @antonyfaulkner8649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Try the Boss CP1X.... well worth the price tag to replace the Dynacomp and CS3. I also have the Cali76 CD and used both for Gilmour stuff.
    CP1X is very versatile, and the bonus IMO, is it preserves the Attack (double tracked Dry + Wet in Studio)... as long as you don't crank the controls.

  • @terrysteward
    @terrysteward 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the best compressors I have ever used is on a Boss BE5 one of their first multi Fx,Xotic is great too,and the Electro Harmonix Platform is incredible,,but I 99% use my Roland GP100 multi Fx,which has a great compressor,,my sequence is Wah,Comp,OD/Dist,Delay,Chorus

    • @Dwightpower88
      @Dwightpower88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recently got an Orange kongpressor, it's great. Not too expensive (compared to most pedals nowadays)

  • @garethmontanarello684
    @garethmontanarello684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info in this video 🔥

  • @matuldamegasen8562
    @matuldamegasen8562 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're doing a great job!

  • @paulweber9945
    @paulweber9945 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent vid, thank you!
    However, one KEY aspect when listening to comps in a clean sound settings is that the comp'd sound should be at the same level (sound pressure levels). Why is that? Because our ears are primed to Loud = "Better", in turn because, Fletcher-Munson (cue "loudness" controls on vintage hifi amplifier units).
    So - when AB'ing the clean vs. comp sounds one should always match the volume of the two signals to get the best picture of what is happening and if the comp settings are correct in terms of squish / pump, fattening, release, etc

  • @danwilhite
    @danwilhite 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool! Gonna try this!

  • @paullemon6542
    @paullemon6542 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job

  • @goodingmusic
    @goodingmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was fantastic thank you!

  • @jean-yves9667
    @jean-yves9667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got it ! Cool ! Thank you ! Very useful video !