I totally understand the Ensign's misunderstanding the message she was supposed to send. Every time Picard, in a heated discussion with an alien, used the throat-slitting gesture to mean "end communication", I feared Worf would fire torpedos and blow the alien ship instead.
@@thiagodeandrade7081 alien: I will not stand for this treachery you ha- Picard: *does throat slicing gesture* Worf: copy that captain, launch all photon torpedoes
@@M1Abrams-HEDP-loaded Data: I do not think that is what the Captain meant by the motion of waving one’s hand across the neck Commander Worf. However, scans indicated that if we did not fire upon the hostile alien, we wouldn’t be witnessing this. Picard: on screen Mister Data. Data: Right away sir. Riker: Data, what are we looking at? Data: It appears as if the Hostile Ship is in a Time Stasis Bubble within a Time Bubble. Had we waited a moment sooner, that Time Bubble would have formed around the Enemy ship anyway and accelerated their time by a magnitude by…. Oh my. Sir, to put it simply, one second here, several hundred thousand years have passed in the bubble. We might have very well saved that individuals life, for now.
True but A) Federation Starfleet is primarily a peace corp. Their job is to deescalate conflicts, not provoke them. And B) Go for the option that can be corrected later and C) Rule of Acquisition 76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.
@@thiagodeandrade7081 I think that was a joke in Galaxy Quest. "I did the throat slitting gesture! That means stop communications, and you nodded to confirm!" "No, it meant 'dead', and I was agreeing with you!"
I love how both Mariner and Boimler are sitting opposite of each other at the con, one totally confident, the other obviously clueless and insecure, but both turn out to be incompetent f*** ups.
She was told to send a message to a hostile ship, and she actively avoids positions of power. It's easy to misunderstand such a vague order in those instances.
And you should not forget freeman tone how she said "send them a message" sounding more "show them what we got". In such an instance the captain would get the full blame. Red alert, hostile ship, captain was attacked and emergency transport out of the situation, threatened conversation. Even with that negative tone "send them a message that we will invite them to dinner" will open Question, because the tone does not match the order. And in such cases the orders must be clear...not "send them a present" ... why did you blow a hole in their ship with a AP-HE round, you should order to get a cake out of our bakery, bring it to the shuttle and let it be delivered...got fuck captain, I can't read your thoughts
To be fair, both Boimler and Mariner would be pretty competent in this situation if they had been on bridge since the beginning of the situation and knew what the fuck was going on.
Boimler did mention the Crazy Ivan move. That is when you head straight for the enemy ship in a insane game of chicken to force the enemy to move away or you both crash. Being completely nuts has its advantages in instilling fear, intimidation, and unpredictability in the enemy.
3:23 Are we not going to talk about how the alien dude, in the middle of raging, still called them and hailed them on a channel to inform them that they were going to target the Cerritos' bridge? That's got to be honor even a Klingon would approve of. XD
I love how the line "there's nothing to do but vineyards and soul food restaurants" is referenced in Season 3 by Mariner and Boilmer hanging out at his parents vineyard and Rutherford and Tendi at a soul food restaurant.
Actually, if a captain tells someone who is at the helm to "send them a message" when faced of with an obviously hostile ship, I can see why the person at the helm would think that is the order to pull the trigger. Thinking about it more, I think Mariner showed restraint by limiting it to a warning shot.
This sorta begs the question: on a multi-person crewed ship and bridge, why does helm control also have WEAPONS control??? Shouldn't weapons control be its own station? The person at the helm should be focused on driving the ship.
Now I remember lol Star Trek Insurrection Riker: Photon Torpedo, isn’t that the universal greeting when communications are down? Geordi: I think it’s the universal greeting when you don’t like someone
The captain was at fault, she could have just said ‘Send them an invitation to discuss the matter’, just saying ‘Send them a message’ hardly give the person who’s sending it any real description on what type of message, and can just be misinterpreted as fire back at them.
TK Critic: they're trying to make a vague reference to some Star Trek episode, but it's lost when they're not specific. I don't remember Picard saying to the helm "send them a message;" more like to Riker, who knew what Picard meant. Seriously, a spaz like BM would never be allowed on the SHIP, let alone with control over weapons.
Ken Burns I remember a episode where Picard trap two alien at the deck and he look at warf and did a gesture with his thumb across his neck saying to cut it off(the stasis trap) It could be interpreted wrong where warf would kill them, especially he wouldn’t ask question.
I gotta disagree with Beckett on two things: 1. Roga Danar is a major badass, the guy leaves piles of bodies everywhere he goes; 2. Creole Food and Soul Food are two different things.
@@fredfry5100 Real food was just a nostalgia thing by then, you could get anything from a replicator. Penn&Teller even replaced gourmet dishes with store-bought, and most people couldn't tell the difference. This show just trashes Star Trek in every way possible, but it's not even funny because it's not true.
Ken Burns Yes this show takes place in the Star Trek universe, great observation captain obvious. Plus almost every Star Trek show at this point has referenced the Star Trek version of Earth many times, even shown it like in TNG. So referencing it isn’t just made up by this show..
there is nothing to do on earth but drink wine in vineyards or eat at soul food restaurants. wow this show is so great a love letter to star trek while poking fun at it.
@@kenburns4547 startrek had been taking itself too seriousely for over 50 years its about time it starts learning too laugh at it self, I am a life long startrek fan and I was craking up during each episode.
That Firefly Reference at 2:58 For those that don’t know what a Crazy Ivan Is, It’s a Little Pilot Trick in a Sci-fi series called “Firefly” that basically makes your ship turn on a Dime, You shut off hydraulic fluid in one of your engines and lick it so you can’t turn it, then you turn the other one making your ship do a Full 180°, and then You Blast Away at Full Speed! Or that’s how it worked in Firefly, Here I’m guessing it’s similar but only have 1 Impulse engine at Full Reverse While the other is at Full impulse, pretty much doing the same thing, AWESOME REFERENCE! ^^
Oddly enough in _Star Fleet Battles_ -- a wargame based on *part* of Star Trek -- ships could come to a dead stop by turning around. (Source: Jackson, Steve, and S. John Ross. _Murphy's Rules: And Other Strange Stuff from the Pages of Space Gamer, Pyramid and More!_ Steve Jackson Games, 1998.)
Guess what, kids. The Crazy Ivan maneuver was and is a real thing that submarines do, and have done so since the beginning of sound based submarine warfare.
"Come on. No wrong answers." "Well, okay… We could do… uh… evasive maneuver eighty... eiiiiiiiight?" _(short pause)_ "Is he fucking serious?" *“THAT WAS THE WRONG ANSWER!”*
@@det.bullock4461 I honestly still feel sorry for the unfortunate actors that got screwed over jsut to be featured In one of these episodes. Real shame really.
Yeah i to was curious bout con showing up in this also is he really as robot chicken made him out to be wut white hair n looking all well dirty I mean they were right bout the old woman in the dark crystal sooo
This completely ridiculous... the obvious answer is to scan the map and replicate it, throw it across the bridge as hard as you possibly can, and beam it to the bugs midflight, without inertial compensation.
@@kenburns4547 oh? Since when? Did regulations say Kirk had to give that cloak back? Or is that regulation why it was ok doe Sisco to "give" those mines back to the the Dominion??
@@SmartSmears especially after its been established like 3 or 4 times that they can cure diseased and restore damaged bodies. Hell! They can restore your youth!! Why were they so obsessed with that planet in Insurrection again?
I don't know if they've done that already but I would LOVE to see Okona in this series. They should be able to crank up the comedy on that and make it epic.
@@override367 I know, I saw it. O'Brien is tied with Scotty as my favorite engineer. I hate Geordi because he could never eject the god damn warp core, Insurrection doesn't count as he ejected a FULLY FUNCTIONAL warp core.
Hey he outsmarted Zeffame Cochrane. The funniest thing was when John Frakes was talking about First Contact, and said "we couldn't get actors like James Cromwell for the TV episodes" LOL I'm like, is this guy for real?
Khan would start talking. "At last we meet, I once knew a man like you. We did battle in the Himalayas and... *Roga Danar shoots Khan until his weapon's power cell is empty*"
Rogar Danar has... A ration kit. You never knew what fatal injuries a human augment could suffer from a ration kit, but... Yeah... It's not something that you want to see on a full stomach
Letting go for a second the fact that weapons control should be squarely under tactical's purview aka Shax's responsibility. What I see here is a clear and blatant display of nepotism by the captain, she berates Boimler for "kissing ass" while ignoring the fact that her daughter did the exact same thing before and after, even went along with it. I feel the real reason Captain Freeman doesn't get recognition is because Starfleet Command is fully aware of said nepotism and is subtly punishing her for it.
The correct response is too tell them to frack off and yell at them.They are the same species Wes Crusher was tested by who take gratitude and niceness as insult !!
It's only good if she's on the wrong side of the airlock. That Mouthy Sue bitch needs to fall into a black hole and wind up on Futurama-- because on Futurama, people who fall into black holes DIE.
Ep 3 she was wrong to try and fight vindor because she would have killed him whereas Ransom ended things ethically and she was later tossed in the brig. Ep 5 she was literally going crazy thinking Barb was a Alien and then lost the fist fight to her. Ep 8 she was the first one who said it was a trial when it wasn't.
What if the Cerritos had a "Trials and Tribble-ations" episode? Aka. The Cerritos time travel to an episode of a previous Star Trek show. You know what I think could be perfect? They time travel to Star Trek TAS, replicating the original Filmation "animation" of the 70's.
That’s one thing I’d love to see in S2. We’re so used to the sophistication of the animation here that it would be so funny to see them do an episode in the Filmation style with its extremely limited budgets, wooden dialogue and recycled animation and sound fx. I always like to say that Filmation makes Hannah Barbera look like Studio Ghibli.
Kurtwood Smith would make a fine Starfleet captain. I can see it now. Captain Red Foreman flying around space putting his foot in Romulan, Cardassian, Dominion and Borg asses.🙃
Ken Burns It’s called relative to the ship you dumbass. The ship has decks that are aligned as if up and down exists, so the ‘lower decks’ exist on the lower section of the ship relative to the god dam ship. Seriously, think with your brain for about two seconds.
@@MinecraftLD10 So why have it built like a MARITIME ship, when obviously the center is the safest part, and you view with SCREENS not windows? You do realize that maritime ships are steered with the naked eye, while starships NEVER are? Dumbass.
Actually if this species hates formalities and gratuities, wouldn't Mariner's message probably be seen to them as a positive message? I would think they would appreciate it.
I get it now Starfleet is composed of trouble makers, Earth is a utopia in the future and Starfleet is where our criminals and politicians go to be productive
That... makes an uncomfortable amount of sense. Send all the people who don't fit into your perfect society into space telling them it's cause they're "the best of the best"
Mariner is supposed to be unique in the fact that she's a troublemake. She doesn't represent all of starfleet, and the others have never been shown to be dirty.
@@ProjectEkerTest33 What major flaws, that are actually imperative to their jobs? Most of their flaws like the Captains narcissism of portrayed as little comedic kinks. It's never been shown as jeopardizing the mission.
We could do Evasive Maneuver 8...8? "..." "...is he f****** serious?" "THAT was the wrong answer!" "I mean 84." "In *this* situation??? Are you crazy?!" They don't even need to explain what 84 is 😂
My guess is a woman's blouse. Zhuge Liang tried to insult Sima Yi with that and two Icelandic feuding families continue their feud becausenone side decides to add one to sweeten the deal.
Watch "Hunt for Red October". 'Crazy Ivan' was a turning maneuver Soviet sub comers would pull when they thought a US sub was following. They'd make a random circular turn to clear their sonar.
One. Mariner do not screw up, the Captain did. She clearly didn't know the meaning of "Send our friends a message", she should've just said "Mariner invite our friends over to dinner". Savvy?
George Hermitage Yeah, she really isn’t though, latest episodes her decisions have started to come back and bite her in the ass, same as all the others, like everyone on the ship has flaws, some more than others.
this was the first episode I wasn't particularly in to. But, I also don't really enjoy Inter-dimensional Cable on Rick and Morty and this was almost that.
I still would not mind you guys to try transformers versus Star Trek or Star Trek/green lantern or Star Trek/Legion of superheroes or Star Trek the next generation/Doctor Who in a simulation number two or your own Star Trek radio dramas To do some of these for animated movies
UGNAvalon there’s one on the list they Can do Transformers versus Star Trek by the ID W paramount owns both franchises in right now And animators are pretty much working right now
Ken Burns Not quite, it takes place in the Star Trek universe in a so far, and correct me if I am wrong, unknown era, but seems to be after DS9. So I don’t quite think it’s a spin off, but just a B-Team show to fit into the Star Trek universe which well centers around the lower deck peeps that are the main characters even if it goes to the upper crew as well but that’s fine.
@@kenburns4547 Not really. The show's aesthetics have far more in common with classic Trek. It also dosen't have the dark pessimistic tone that STD and Picard have.
"Send a message," is highly contextual and open to interpretation. NEVER GIVE THAT ORDER!
I totally understand the Ensign's misunderstanding the message she was supposed to send. Every time Picard, in a heated discussion with an alien, used the throat-slitting gesture to mean "end communication", I feared Worf would fire torpedos and blow the alien ship instead.
@@thiagodeandrade7081
alien: I will not stand for this treachery you ha-
Picard: *does throat slicing gesture*
Worf: copy that captain, launch all photon torpedoes
@@M1Abrams-HEDP-loaded Data: I do not think that is what the Captain meant by the motion of waving one’s hand across the neck Commander Worf. However, scans indicated that if we did not fire upon the hostile alien, we wouldn’t be witnessing this.
Picard: on screen Mister Data.
Data: Right away sir.
Riker: Data, what are we looking at?
Data: It appears as if the Hostile Ship is in a Time Stasis Bubble within a Time Bubble. Had we waited a moment sooner, that Time Bubble would have formed around the Enemy ship anyway and accelerated their time by a magnitude by…. Oh my. Sir, to put it simply, one second here, several hundred thousand years have passed in the bubble. We might have very well saved that individuals life, for now.
True but A) Federation Starfleet is primarily a peace corp. Their job is to deescalate conflicts, not provoke them. And B) Go for the option that can be corrected later and C) Rule of Acquisition 76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.
@@thiagodeandrade7081 I think that was a joke in Galaxy Quest.
"I did the throat slitting gesture! That means stop communications, and you nodded to confirm!"
"No, it meant 'dead', and I was agreeing with you!"
I love how both Mariner and Boimler are sitting opposite of each other at the con, one totally confident, the other obviously clueless and insecure, but both turn out to be incompetent f*** ups.
She was told to send a message to a hostile ship, and she actively avoids positions of power. It's easy to misunderstand such a vague order in those instances.
@@bthsr7113 especially after a red alert.
@@bthsr7113 to be fair everyone on that bridge is a fuck up so
And you should not forget freeman tone how she said "send them a message" sounding more "show them what we got". In such an instance the captain would get the full blame. Red alert, hostile ship, captain was attacked and emergency transport out of the situation, threatened conversation.
Even with that negative tone "send them a message that we will invite them to dinner" will open Question, because the tone does not match the order. And in such cases the orders must be clear...not "send them a present" ... why did you blow a hole in their ship with a AP-HE round, you should order to get a cake out of our bakery, bring it to the shuttle and let it be delivered...got fuck captain, I can't read your thoughts
To be fair, both Boimler and Mariner would be pretty competent in this situation if they had been on bridge since the beginning of the situation and knew what the fuck was going on.
Captain: "Boimler, I want options."
Boimler: "Do the uh, Janeway Protocol?"
Ransom: "THE CHILDREN, THEY'RE ALL GONE!"
"RED particle cannons, full! BLUE particle cannons, full! Magnetic disruptors, full!"
Janeway protacall is to fire a torpedo at the warpcore
..... I think it also has to be a nano torpedo.
Boimler no ur always in check to deal wit situations such as this 👽🗡🔫🏹🗡☠
Boimler did mention the Crazy Ivan move. That is when you head straight for the enemy ship in a insane game of chicken to force the enemy to move away or you both crash. Being completely nuts has its advantages in instilling fear, intimidation, and unpredictability in the enemy.
@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 ill crazy ivan right into tindi. Gawd dawm shes cute. ❤
3:23 Are we not going to talk about how the alien dude, in the middle of raging, still called them and hailed them on a channel to inform them that they were going to target the Cerritos' bridge? That's got to be honor even a Klingon would approve of. XD
I love how the line "there's nothing to do but vineyards and soul food restaurants" is referenced in Season 3 by Mariner and Boilmer hanging out at his parents vineyard and Rutherford and Tendi at a soul food restaurant.
That's sounds like a great time to me! lol
It's also a reference to Picard (Jean Luc lives at his family vineyard) and DS9 (Sisko's dad runs a restaurant in New O.)
@@mrbibs350 Was looking for this -- Sisko's dad was a fun character
The way Mariner just threw Boimler under the bus! I just can't XD
And saved his ass by just firing the phasers
Actually, if a captain tells someone who is at the helm to "send them a message" when faced of with an obviously hostile ship, I can see why the person at the helm would think that is the order to pull the trigger. Thinking about it more, I think Mariner showed restraint by limiting it to a warning shot.
Sounds like something Janeway would say.
It's obviously one of those "opposite planet" aliens, where they got offended because she MISSED.
@@kenburns4547 Like Tellarites?
The helm dont have weapons control....
@@willt3223 I may have gotten my centuries (and bridge layouts) mixed up from watching too many episodes of the old series over the last few days.
This sorta begs the question: on a multi-person crewed ship and bridge, why does helm control also have WEAPONS control??? Shouldn't weapons control be its own station? The person at the helm should be focused on driving the ship.
“Send then a message.” I’m pretty sure that many Starfleet captains confused their subordinates with such wordings.
Yep
Was that line ever in an episode?
Ken Burns I vaguely recall an episode where Riker said it and torpedos being fired.
Now I remember lol Star Trek Insurrection
Riker: Photon Torpedo, isn’t that the universal greeting when communications are down?
Geordi: I think it’s the universal greeting when you don’t like someone
@@ChristopherG1990 I thought it was Picad saying it to Riker. However that was the senior bridge crew, not Wesley Crusher.
1:00 I love their expressions here, Mariner's face is like "wait, WHAT?!" and Tendi looks guilty because she was there and probably encouraged him
her description of earth sounds sweet.
Its literally what the captains do when they are on earth. Picard has a Vinyard and Sisko's dad runs a soul food restaurant.
@@nonenone5387 Yeah the show was called STAR TREK not "Seinfeld, 2330."
It is, but also is bored
Star Trek is suppose to be an utopia. The people who aren’t going out into the brave unknown are actually have a great time
Sounds like Picard or Sisko....
Maybe both, they could hang out on weekends.....
The captain was at fault, she could have just said ‘Send them an invitation to discuss the matter’, just saying ‘Send them a message’ hardly give the person who’s sending it any real description on what type of message, and can just be misinterpreted as fire back at them.
True, but the joke would be lost.
TK Critic: they're trying to make a vague reference to some Star Trek episode, but it's lost when they're not specific. I don't remember Picard saying to the helm "send them a message;" more like to Riker, who knew what Picard meant.
Seriously, a spaz like BM would never be allowed on the SHIP, let alone with control over weapons.
@@kenburns4547 Or rather than referencing something specific from Star Trek, they are referencing this trope in general...
Ken Burns I remember a episode where Picard trap two alien at the deck and he look at warf and did a gesture with his thumb across his neck saying to cut it off(the stasis trap)
It could be interpreted wrong where warf would kill them, especially he wouldn’t ask question.
Or how about open comms to them
I gotta disagree with Beckett on two things:
1. Roga Danar is a major badass, the guy leaves piles of bodies everywhere he goes;
2. Creole Food and Soul Food are two different things.
That's the best part about their argument, it seems like a real argument.
Dont forget Asian, american, and Mexican foods.(I'd go on but there are to many different kinds of food in the world.
She's lucky Ben Sisco didn't corrected her after grabbing the Defiant.
@@fredfry5100 Real food was just a nostalgia thing by then, you could get anything from a replicator. Penn&Teller even replaced gourmet dishes with store-bought, and most people couldn't tell the difference.
This show just trashes Star Trek in every way possible, but it's not even funny because it's not true.
@@fredfry5100 not after WWIII ....
This show is everything I ever wanted from a Star Trek show.
As someone who's, uh, been late to an important meeting (or three), their reactions on discovering their ship is on red alert is very realistic. 😅
Nothing but vineyard's and soul food restaurants. Very accurate.
Yeah it's called STAR TREK not Seinfeld.
@@kenburns4547 what?
@@DrewLSsix It's kind of about TREKKING THE STARS, not life on Earth; that's what SEINFELD is for.
Ken Burns Yes this show takes place in the Star Trek universe, great observation captain obvious. Plus almost every Star Trek show at this point has referenced the Star Trek version of Earth many times, even shown it like in TNG. So referencing it isn’t just made up by this show..
"Is he F**king serious?" We love this doctor
Yeah if your vet is sick
Ken Burns So you’re what a racist looks like in Star Trek.
Actually would it be Speciesit?
She's McCoy if he were constantly passed off. 100% enjoying the snark.
@@IamMeHere2See Right? I know we don't have alot of lines from her but every time she speaks it's gold
there is nothing to do on earth but drink wine in vineyards or eat at soul food restaurants. wow this show is so great a love letter to star trek while poking fun at it.
Just because Star Trek doesn't FOCUS on earth-life in 2300's.
No, this show is deliberately hating on Star Trek.
Fail.
@@kenburns4547 startrek had been taking itself too seriousely for over 50 years its about time it starts learning too laugh at it self, I am a life long startrek fan and I was craking up during each episode.
@@miles2378 Because you don't know satire from cynicism.
@@kenburns4547 are you hating on it because its cynical?
@@miles2378 Cynical - adjective
"bitterly or sneeringly distrustful, contemptuous, or pessimistic."
That Firefly Reference at 2:58
For those that don’t know what a Crazy Ivan Is, It’s a Little Pilot Trick in a Sci-fi series called “Firefly” that basically makes your ship turn on a Dime,
You shut off hydraulic fluid in one of your engines and lick it so you can’t turn it, then you turn the other one making your ship do a Full 180°, and then You Blast Away at Full Speed!
Or that’s how it worked in Firefly,
Here I’m guessing it’s similar but only have 1 Impulse engine at Full Reverse While the other is at Full impulse, pretty much doing the same thing,
AWESOME REFERENCE! ^^
"The Hunt For Red October" Russian sub captains would sometimes turn suddenly so they could check if they are being followed.
@@Mourtzouphlos240 Yep, "Crazy Ivan" was a thing long before Firefly (and the hunt for red october).
Oddly enough in _Star Fleet Battles_ -- a wargame based on *part* of Star Trek -- ships could come to a dead stop by turning around.
(Source: Jackson, Steve, and S. John Ross. _Murphy's Rules: And Other Strange Stuff from the Pages of Space Gamer, Pyramid and More!_ Steve Jackson Games, 1998.)
Guess what, kids. The Crazy Ivan maneuver was and is a real thing that submarines do, and have done so since the beginning of sound based submarine warfare.
'Send a message' - maybe this explains a lot of wars?
“If words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, then the general is to blame.” Sun Tzu
"Come on. No wrong answers."
"Well, okay… We could do… uh… evasive maneuver eighty... eiiiiiiiight?"
_(short pause)_
"Is he fucking serious?"
*“THAT WAS THE WRONG ANSWER!”*
Holy crap I've been watching clips of this and was wondering what was up withe Tactical officer's ear. Only just put together that he's Bajoran lol
The bug alien almost sounds like Lord Hater. Fitting we got Dominator on the crew with us.
First wander in the last episode now Hater in this one? Damn.
@@furionmax7824 Yup. Real shame. Poor Sylvia or Peepers ain't In It but i say It still for the better.
It was Kenneth Mitchell. AKA Kol, Kol'sha and Tenavik on Discovery.
Oh, god, only now I noticed both the Lord Dominator voice actors are in the main cast.
Mind. Blown.
EDITED a lapsus. wrote Hater instead of Dominator.
@@det.bullock4461 I honestly still feel sorry for the unfortunate actors that got screwed over jsut to be featured In one of these episodes. Real shame really.
"Khan and that thick thick chest".... I see someone also agrees with John Oliver
Yeah i to was curious bout con showing up in this also is he really as robot chicken made him out to be wut white hair n looking all well dirty I mean they were right bout the old woman in the dark crystal sooo
Crazy Ivan is literally just a hard turn in any direction
Roga Danar is probably correct, now that I remember. He basically fought off the entire enterprise security crew, and was only outsmarted by Data
This completely ridiculous... the obvious answer is to scan the map and replicate it, throw it across the bridge as hard as you possibly can, and beam it to the bugs midflight, without inertial compensation.
Why not just GIVE BACK THE MAP?
Then maybe replicate it from the transporter logs?
It's possible that map haves some kind of code to get past Romulan security checkpoints.
@@TheMrPeteChannel It's STILL their map; and Starfleet regulations require giving it back, if they want it.
Replicators are basically the TARDIS of Star Trek, you have to ignore them so they dont end every plot immediately
@@kenburns4547 oh? Since when? Did regulations say Kirk had to give that cloak back? Or is that regulation why it was ok doe Sisco to "give" those mines back to the the Dominion??
@@SmartSmears especially after its been established like 3 or 4 times that they can cure diseased and restore damaged bodies.
Hell! They can restore your youth!! Why were they so obsessed with that planet in Insurrection again?
I wonder which version of the "Crazy Ivan" Boimler was referring to: the one from "The Hunt for Red October" or the one from the tv show "Firefly".
The Hunt for Red October had the USS ENTERPRISE :)
Probably both! He was hoping the captain would choose based on the context he didn't know!
Riga Danar made the entire Enterprise crew look like a bunch of amateurs.
Picard's Enterprise, not Kirk's.
@@kenburns4547 He would have wrecked Kirk's Enterprise as well.
@@xaviervega468 Nope Kirk beat Gary Seven, the Mary Sue of all Star Trek; he can easily beat any lesser Mary Sues.
@@kenburns4547 A. Kirk didn't beat him.
B. Star Trek has easily had more powerful foes.
@@kenburns4547 jesus christ you are stupid.
I love how both Mariner and Boimler fuck up, but in different ways, and for attempting to do it "their way".
".. on Stardate five, seven, one, eight. fooooour" 😂 the way he delivers those Stardates in this episode is just lol
3:22 - Thats a face that says "I'm going to save this for ammo when I need it"
I love Roga Danar, but I also like the "Outragous" Okona from TNG
WORST. EPISODE. EVER.
I don't know if they've done that already but I would LOVE to see Okona in this series. They should be able to crank up the comedy on that and make it epic.
@@kenburns4547 Seriously? Worse than sleeping with a candle ghost?
@@blazerocker1734 I think they did reference him in at least one episode.
@@albertmartinez2539 I think Janeway and Paris turning into salamanders was worse than either.
"Send them a message" *fires a torpedo*
Make it a quantum 🙃
@@tachyontee3877 They'll have a quantum of solace before they suck vacuum. :D
The future sure has strange euphemisms. It makes you really wonder what 'bring it downtown' really meant.
Roga Danar was the bad ass. To quote a certain Transport Chief: MOAR SECURITY MOAR SECURITY!!!!
Am I the only Trek fan who likes O'Brien
@@niceguy60 Lower Decks has a future clip where they honor O'brien as the most important person in Starfleet history
@@override367 I know, I saw it. O'Brien is tied with Scotty as my favorite engineer. I hate Geordi because he could never eject the god damn warp core, Insurrection doesn't count as he ejected a FULLY FUNCTIONAL warp core.
But only Riker and Worf show up...
@@niceguy60 Yeah, he sucks at ejecting the core.😑
The middle of a red alert is NOT the time to be testing your ensigns.
"Roga Danar? Get the f*** out of my face!"
Hey he outsmarted Zeffame Cochrane. The funniest thing was when John Frakes was talking about First Contact, and said "we couldn't get actors like James Cromwell for the TV episodes" LOL
I'm like, is this guy for real?
Crazy ivan is literally turn around as fast as you can
I think even if you invited them out to dinner the creatures would've still been pissed and still demanded the map
Felt like beckette was trying to get mom approval for brad
Some aliens you really can not be nice to.
It's taken from the episode where Wesley was tested by Starfleet, using an alien that was insulted by everything but threats.
"Crazy Ivan" from 'Hunt for Red October' which had the USS ENTERPRISE - man I love this show
The true answer was to activate the Emergency Command Hologram, because they don't have any idea what they are doing.
But he might go straight to the photonic cannon 🤪
Or try to give Freeman a sensual massage.
Wouldn't be surprised if Roga Danar destroyed Khan one on one. Those Angosian super soldiers were really overpowered.
Khan would start talking. "At last we meet, I once knew a man like you. We did battle in the Himalayas and... *Roga Danar shoots Khan until his weapon's power cell is empty*"
@@override367 khan has the superior intellect
Rogar Danar has... A ration kit.
You never knew what fatal injuries a human augment could suffer from a ration kit, but... Yeah... It's not something that you want to see on a full stomach
That escalated quickly
Letting go for a second the fact that weapons control should be squarely under tactical's purview aka Shax's responsibility. What I see here is a clear and blatant display of nepotism by the captain, she berates Boimler for "kissing ass" while ignoring the fact that her daughter did the exact same thing before and after, even went along with it. I feel the real reason Captain Freeman doesn't get recognition is because Starfleet Command is fully aware of said nepotism and is subtly punishing her for it.
The correct response is too tell them to frack off and yell at them.They are the same species Wes Crusher was tested by who take gratitude and niceness as insult !!
They are? Honestly their ship looked to me like a Combination of Hur'q and Tzenkethi ships from Star Trek online.
@@foxxojones4757 Nope, Wesley crossed a Zaldan. Zaldans look human, except for a webbed thumb.
So far, personally, the best episode, and hate me for saying this, but it starts with Mariner being wrong for once!
It's only good if she's on the wrong side of the airlock. That Mouthy Sue bitch needs to fall into a black hole and wind up on Futurama-- because on Futurama, people who fall into black holes DIE.
She’s been wrong a bunch of times
@@elijahlovejoy5438 has her being wrong ever ended up actually being a negative thing? Or do we find out she was right all along.
Yeah! Denar would woop Khan's ass!
Ep 3 she was wrong to try and fight vindor because she would have killed him whereas Ransom ended things ethically and she was later tossed in the brig. Ep 5 she was literally going crazy thinking Barb was a Alien and then lost the fist fight to her. Ep 8 she was the first one who said it was a trial when it wasn't.
What if the Cerritos had a "Trials and Tribble-ations" episode? Aka. The Cerritos time travel to an episode of a previous Star Trek show. You know what I think could be perfect? They time travel to Star Trek TAS, replicating the original Filmation "animation" of the 70's.
They almost kinda did in the last episode
That’s one thing I’d love to see in S2. We’re so used to the sophistication of the animation here that it would be so funny to see them do an episode in the Filmation style with its extremely limited budgets, wooden dialogue and recycled animation and sound fx. I always like to say that Filmation makes Hannah Barbera look like Studio Ghibli.
Boimler should've suggested the Janeway Protocol.
Why on earth would they have 2 stations on the bridge unmanned at any time?
There's a reason why there's an Alpha, Beta, and Delta shift. And they weren't at their post on their shift
I think this is Kurtwood Smith as the Alien questioning them
It is
@@Thermool Thanks. I suspected it was him and that saves me from having to confirm it.
Kurtwood Smith would make a fine Starfleet captain. I can see it now. Captain Red Foreman flying around space putting his foot in Romulan, Cardassian, Dominion and Borg asses.🙃
Tachyon Tee so while Picard would be ass deep in Romulans, Red would come in kicking to save him?
I blame Q. This whole situation was created by him to test Boimler's worth.
or you know, Q was bored and the ponies weren't up to anything interesting enough to entertain him
But seriously, though - Roga Danar or Khan Noonien Singh?
I tend to call her Becki.
The biggest badass is Sisko, c'mon get it right.
Ahem, Jellicoe
Crazy ivan hunt for the red October
Are we going to talk about how a show called the lower decks now stars two bridge crew?
Or how "lower decks" can really exist in space, where up and down are relative?
Ken Burns It’s called relative to the ship you dumbass. The ship has decks that are aligned as if up and down exists, so the ‘lower decks’ exist on the lower section of the ship relative to the god dam ship.
Seriously, think with your brain for about two seconds.
@@kenburns4547 There was a TNG episode with the very same name.
@@MinecraftLD10 So why have it built like a MARITIME ship, when obviously the center is the safest part, and you view with SCREENS not windows?
You do realize that maritime ships are steered with the naked eye, while starships NEVER are?
Dumbass.
@@xaviervega468 Yes, and it was NOTHING like this.
This is the "Teen Titans GO!" of Star Trek.
The captain teleports using standard the kneeling position
From The Terminator
3:08 - 3:23 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Red Alert, and no one noticed that there is no one at Ops and Conn?
LOL, didn't expect Red October reference.
Actually if this species hates formalities and gratuities, wouldn't Mariner's message probably be seen to them as a positive message? I would think they would appreciate it.
A warning is too nice you need to hit them directly.
"I wanna talk about Khan and his big thick chest . . ."
I get it now Starfleet is composed of trouble makers, Earth is a utopia in the future and Starfleet is where our criminals and politicians go to be productive
That... makes an uncomfortable amount of sense. Send all the people who don't fit into your perfect society into space telling them it's cause they're "the best of the best"
Since they are all narcissist they believe it. Lol if true.
Mariner is supposed to be unique in the fact that she's a troublemake. She doesn't represent all of starfleet, and the others have never been shown to be dirty.
@@jasondrake323 No but they all have fairly major flaws
@@ProjectEkerTest33 What major flaws, that are actually imperative to their jobs? Most of their flaws like the Captains narcissism of portrayed as little comedic kinks. It's never been shown as jeopardizing the mission.
Yay crazy Ivan. I am getting firefly flashbacks
Green lady hot as hell
Seems like the wrong time for a teaching question. Lol
Picard never asked an ensign for options.
Picard was also Captain on the flagship.
@@kenburns4547 I wonder why. is almost like TNG didn`t focus on ensigns.
@@JayJayM57 That's not their job.
@@kenburns4547 TNG was a show, not a job.
Do a Crazy Ivan!!
I was wondering if anyone under 30 got the reference.
*My name is Ivan! Live Long and Prosper!! 🖖 **#ytmnd** **#thegalaxyrailways** **#mylittlepony** **#startrek*
We could do Evasive Maneuver 8...8?
"..."
"...is he f****** serious?"
"THAT was the wrong answer!"
"I mean 84."
"In *this* situation??? Are you crazy?!"
They don't even need to explain what 84 is 😂
Does anyone 😯want to know what the captains gratitude was???
I do
Ask Gowron. He might know. Oops, never mind Worf offed him.🙃
My guess is a woman's blouse. Zhuge Liang tried to insult Sima Yi with that and two Icelandic feuding families continue their feud becausenone side decides to add one to sweeten the deal.
What’s the song that plays in the end
Kinda have a crush on Mariner. 3:13 This is one of the reasons why.
Getting somente to replace the missing Bridge officers shouldn't have been top priority specially after the red alert?
They stole a space navigation device and they do not know how to clone and return the stolen artifact ?
You mean 'replicate'. And no, so far, no one does that.
@@kalexkhan5086 Yes, because there's no such thing as transporter-logs....oh wait.
The map wasn't stolen.... The map was given to them, then the crew did something to offend the aliens and they wanted the map back
@@kenburns4547 Transporter logs don`t reconstruct data.
@@JayJayM57 They ARE data!
Mariner hangs her best friend Boimler out to dry --again! What a terrible friend.
I wonder what kind of geneticly enginered monstrocity Tendy will creat next?
The Cat...
@@rommdan2716 I nominate "The Khan" as Tendy next abomination.
Second time watching STILL funny
Scan the map, duplicate it
Give the original back
Why does Mariner have access to phasers? Isn't she at OPs?
probably forward phasers.
So in this situation a competent underling would recognize the ambiguity and clarify.
Of course they had to ask boiler for options
Mariner is worried ??
Was Beckett born on earth ? Because she made it sound like that if she lost her job and had to live on Earth that it would suck and I know she's human
I don't know. Activate the ECH or ready the Photonic Cannons.
“Crazy Ivan” Was that a Firefly reference?
Actually a reference to real world naval combat.
Watch "Hunt for Red October". 'Crazy Ivan' was a turning maneuver Soviet sub comers would pull when they thought a US sub was following. They'd make a random circular turn to clear their sonar.
I only realized now Becket has her Ops console configured to fire phasers. She's not Tactical. Hmm...
I had to Google Raga Danar.when I saw his picture I remembered the TNG episode. It wouldn't be in my top ten TNG episodes.
When will this be in the uk?
Nobody knows!
Roger Worsley 😢
Hahahahhaha.... this shit, ugh show, is never going to leave the US....
@@julianmarco4185 That's what they all say
I've been forced to pirate the show but I would like to watch it and still support the creators.
1:10
No one pointing out the fact that Mariner screwed up. I don't watch the show, but the biggest complaint is her being perfect.
One. Mariner do not screw up, the Captain did. She clearly didn't know the meaning of "Send our friends a message", she should've just said "Mariner invite our friends over to dinner".
Savvy?
@@cobracorporal6738 okay, fair enough. Based on the hate posts, she's supposed to be to perfect not to understand the captain.;)
@@georgehermitage4704 Nobody's perfect. We all make mistakes and we even screw things up without thinking it through
@@cobracorporal6738 (gasp) the horror!
George Hermitage Yeah, she really isn’t though, latest episodes her decisions have started to come back and bite her in the ass, same as all the others, like everyone on the ship has flaws, some more than others.
I would have fired the phasers to lol
this was the first episode I wasn't particularly in to. But, I also don't really enjoy Inter-dimensional Cable on Rick and Morty and this was almost that.
Why didn't they just replicate the map and hand over the original?
I still would not mind you guys to try transformers versus Star Trek or Star Trek/green lantern or Star Trek/Legion of superheroes or Star Trek the next generation/Doctor Who in a simulation number two or your own Star Trek radio dramas To do some of these for animated movies
You do know that this isn’t the official channel for the series, right? And that crossovers require lots of licensing/royalties?
UGNAvalon there’s one on the list they Can do Transformers versus Star Trek by the ID W paramount owns both franchises in right now And animators are pretty much working right now
This is all Rutherford’s fault
Yeah but Rutherford's a perfect cinnamon roll protect him at all cost!
Lower Decks took an UPPER deck on trek.
Yep
No star Trek Picard did that
@@niceguy60 This show is a SPIN-OFF of Discovery AND Picard.
Ken Burns Not quite, it takes place in the Star Trek universe in a so far, and correct me if I am wrong, unknown era, but seems to be after DS9.
So I don’t quite think it’s a spin off, but just a B-Team show to fit into the Star Trek universe which well centers around the lower deck peeps that are the main characters even if it goes to the upper crew as well but that’s fine.
@@kenburns4547 Not really. The show's aesthetics have far more in common with classic Trek. It also dosen't have the dark pessimistic tone that STD and Picard have.
I want nothing more than to like this show but the more I watch the less it feels like Star Trek