I seem to be stuck at b group pace (~2:15 to 2:20) laps depending on traffic. Only done a couple track days so far and I just can't seem to find exactly where I'm losing time other than corner exit. High siding terrifies me tbh lol. Excited to see if I can apply some of this knowledge next time at T-hill. Thanks for making this video!
I was stuck in the low to mid-teens myself (somehow managed a 2:12 my first ever day there but couldn't match it again next few events) until I recently did the Ken Hill Pro School with Carter's (probably the best Nor-Cal organization - I Love FTD and the others too but still). I finally worked with an instructor for the first time after 15-20 events. The feedback was brutal but accurate and helped me immensely. What was I doing wrong? Bike positioning, aka lines. Very basic things that I THOUGHT I had figured but just didn't. I wasn't using consistent markers for turn in and apex, only for braking. This made me inconsistent, slow, unpredictable and dangerous for faster riders trying to pass me. And in just a few days after fixing this I dropped over ten seconds and am running low-mid 2's now. The school was interesting, but the main thing for me was having feedback from faster riders (everyone I worked with is capable of mid-1:50's there!) and also finally getting go-pro video of myself for multiple laps for the first time. Most organizations provide instructors you can work with for free. Take advantage! Look at the pictures from the photographers for some feedback too but video is gold for feedback.
Really enjoyed this. Well done. All skill levels can benefit. Glad you mentioned the Pirelli slicks--I was wondering what tires you were running. Thank you.
I don't know if I'll get around to ride Sonoma this year. I have old footage but usually like to do the Tutorial when it's fresh in my mind. Probably Laguna Seca is coming up first.
Heading Thunder Hill next week, couldn’t have come at a better time! Fantastic information. Having only been a handful of times, Im just beginning at track riding and love to see and hear how you approach this track. I’m definitely going to implement your strategies albeit a much slower pace. Just wanted to say ‘thanks’
Great vid. My best is a 2:02 and I'm 3 years into riding so really appreciate all your videos as I too want to keep pushing the envelope. Additionally I also have a 2020 s1000rr. Curious why you are at 0 for the TC. I'm usually either -3 or -4. Given you are posting better times I'm curious to hear why you run with more TC. Thanks in advance and keep the vids coming!
Well TC saved me a few times from crashing. As long as I feel it does not hold me back why go lower? You see I did with TC 0 1:57s and if you get your rear sliding it has a better chance to safe you. So in short I always go with the highest setting that feels like it's not holding me back. But I only go lower if I actually can feel it holding me back.
@@TylerTron21 You are absolutely right. I still rely a lot on it and in 2020 was really mostly focusing on lines and braking. in 2021 I'll go a bit lower in TC settings in general. The recorded lap however is also on a pretty used rear slick and usually at the end of the day when it's almost done I'll increase TC after it starts slipping. Definitely something fun to play around with.
Yeah on a 2020 S1000 you don't wanna turn it off fully as it's so good it'll make everyone faster with TC on. But finding the right level based on track and tires and skill is a fine art in itself.
@@MonoMoto Ya that was solely what I was commenting on. Your times are faster than mine so certainly no expert here however I've seen a lot of guys who are posting low 1:50's with their TC turned to -5 and -6. But again, it's because they are that much better/experienced than I am. I'm at T Hill in another 10 days so hope to see you up there soon!
Very good video and I wished I had it at my disposal before my first day at that track. No nonsense honest approach on what your strategy can be if you want to achieve better lap times. QQ, are you running slicks or street/race tires on this video? Trust and confidence in your tires plays a huge role. Much appreciated and thank you for taking the time to prepare and post this video.
I'm so glad to hear this kind of feedback ! It seriously makes me happy :) Yes I totally agree with you tires are the best performance upgrade you can do to your bike to go faster. I run Pirelli Slicks. Usually SC1s some times SC2. You can also use the Pirelli Race DOT tires, same construction as the slick and compound just has some grooves. That way they are legal ( but not ideal ) on the street. They work great and have never let me down.
Great suggestion! T-Hill West is a bit tricky, as it is run in up to 4 different configurations and luckily it is a very easy to learn track. But I'll think about it and see if I come up with a good solution !
How do you keep the motorcycle from pushing you back on the straits at full throttle? My First year on a 1000 (13 s1000rr) and when I go full throttle I feel like the bike pushes me bike in my seat, making me just want to hold on to handles instead of focusing on the track
great question and probably complex enough to make a full video about it , but in short it's with your body position. Sliding back is bad as it upsets the bike and will make it wheelie more. Being locked into the bike with feet, knees and hands does the trick.
@@MonoMoto Looking forward to it! Thanks for this super well made Thunderhill video! Can't wait to get back and try it out (... maybe I'll finally get out of Novice group?)
@@mackmama hehe still need to improve a few things for the next video to earn the "super well made" but working on it :) thx for the advance kudos *:) Getting to the next group is all about practice and lines. Hope this helps you.
Good video, thanks for putting it together! One suggestion - instead of using TH-cam for playback, use a video player playing a file on your computer. This will avoid the distracting TH-cam splash screen every time you unpause.
Planning on going next Saturday for the first time. Very helpful. I've got a week to memorize this!
Found your video after pitting next to you guys last weekend. Thankful to find these tips and walk thru.
Hah small world ! Hope you had a good time on track and already a plan what to improve on for the next visit :) see you out there !
Would love to see Laguna, Button Willow, and Sonoma! Thanks for posting TH. Its really helpful and hope you continue making these track guides!
I started working on a video for Laguna - sub to get the update when its done
Great turn by turn breakdown.
Glad you like it
I seem to be stuck at b group pace (~2:15 to 2:20) laps depending on traffic. Only done a couple track days so far and I just can't seem to find exactly where I'm losing time other than corner exit. High siding terrifies me tbh lol. Excited to see if I can apply some of this knowledge next time at T-hill. Thanks for making this video!
Good lines make everything easier . Hope it helps !
I was stuck in the low to mid-teens myself (somehow managed a 2:12 my first ever day there but couldn't match it again next few events) until I recently did the Ken Hill Pro School with Carter's (probably the best Nor-Cal organization - I Love FTD and the others too but still). I finally worked with an instructor for the first time after 15-20 events. The feedback was brutal but accurate and helped me immensely. What was I doing wrong? Bike positioning, aka lines. Very basic things that I THOUGHT I had figured but just didn't. I wasn't using consistent markers for turn in and apex, only for braking. This made me inconsistent, slow, unpredictable and dangerous for faster riders trying to pass me. And in just a few days after fixing this I dropped over ten seconds and am running low-mid 2's now. The school was interesting, but the main thing for me was having feedback from faster riders (everyone I worked with is capable of mid-1:50's there!) and also finally getting go-pro video of myself for multiple laps for the first time.
Most organizations provide instructors you can work with for free. Take advantage! Look at the pictures from the photographers for some feedback too but video is gold for feedback.
Really enjoyed this. Well done. All skill levels can benefit. Glad you mentioned the Pirelli slicks--I was wondering what tires you were running. Thank you.
Great video, Armin. Thanks!
Thank you for the feedback and the sub. This helps me to make more videos in the future!
@@MonoMoto looking forward to a Sonoma raceway how to go fast video. Are you still making one this year?
I don't know if I'll get around to ride Sonoma this year. I have old footage but usually like to do the Tutorial when it's fresh in my mind. Probably Laguna Seca is coming up first.
Heading Thunder Hill next week, couldn’t have come at a better time! Fantastic information. Having only been a handful of times, Im just beginning at track riding and love to see and hear how you approach this track. I’m definitely going to implement your strategies albeit a much slower pace. Just wanted to say ‘thanks’
It's a fun track and I hope this helps to progress and have tons of fun on track. Thank you for the feedback !
Great vid. My best is a 2:02 and I'm 3 years into riding so really appreciate all your videos as I too want to keep pushing the envelope. Additionally I also have a 2020 s1000rr. Curious why you are at 0 for the TC. I'm usually either -3 or -4. Given you are posting better times I'm curious to hear why you run with more TC. Thanks in advance and keep the vids coming!
Well TC saved me a few times from crashing. As long as I feel it does not hold me back why go lower? You see I did with TC 0 1:57s and if you get your rear sliding it has a better chance to safe you. So in short I always go with the highest setting that feels like it's not holding me back. But I only go lower if I actually can feel it holding me back.
@@TylerTron21 You are absolutely right. I still rely a lot on it and in 2020 was really mostly focusing on lines and braking. in 2021 I'll go a bit lower in TC settings in general. The recorded lap however is also on a pretty used rear slick and usually at the end of the day when it's almost done I'll increase TC after it starts slipping. Definitely something fun to play around with.
Yeah on a 2020 S1000 you don't wanna turn it off fully as it's so good it'll make everyone faster with TC on. But finding the right level based on track and tires and skill is a fine art in itself.
@@MonoMoto Ya that was solely what I was commenting on. Your times are faster than mine so certainly no expert here however I've seen a lot of guys who are posting low 1:50's with their TC turned to -5 and -6. But again, it's because they are that much better/experienced than I am.
I'm at T Hill in another 10 days so hope to see you up there soon!
@@jkalkstein I’ll go up there once it warms up in April ! Hope to see you
Any plans for a video on Buttonwillow?
Nope but Laguna soon
Very good video and I wished I had it at my disposal before my first day at that track. No nonsense honest approach on what your strategy can be if you want to achieve better lap times. QQ, are you running slicks or street/race tires on this video? Trust and confidence in your tires plays a huge role. Much appreciated and thank you for taking the time to prepare and post this video.
I'm so glad to hear this kind of feedback ! It seriously makes me happy :)
Yes I totally agree with you tires are the best performance upgrade you can do to your bike to go faster. I run Pirelli Slicks. Usually SC1s some times SC2. You can also use the Pirelli Race DOT tires, same construction as the slick and compound just has some grooves. That way they are legal ( but not ideal ) on the street. They work great and have never let me down.
Thank you Mono! Good choice of beer too. Ride safe and I look forward to more videos. Subscribing now.
Wohoo! Can't go wrong with Saporo :) See you at the track !
great tutorial, thx! can you make one for t-hill west?
Great suggestion! T-Hill West is a bit tricky, as it is run in up to 4 different configurations and luckily it is a very easy to learn track. But I'll think about it and see if I come up with a good solution !
T-Hill West video is up and live on my channel. Hope you subscribed and got the update already :)
I will be going there for the first time in two days. This is definitely very helpful.
Have a ton of fun ! And with everything in life it looks a lot easier than it is, so give yourself time to get used to it. But glad it helps ! :D
You're dope dude! I live like 30 minutes from thunderhill and am highly considering buying a ninja 400 just to race here with.
Feel like a pro rents those, if you want to give it a try before buying. But yes fun track you got close to you!
Great video
Thank you Felipe! Hope it helped :)
How do you keep the motorcycle from pushing you back on the straits at full throttle? My First year on a 1000 (13 s1000rr) and when I go full throttle I feel like the bike pushes me bike in my seat, making me just want to hold on to handles instead of focusing on the track
great question and probably complex enough to make a full video about it , but in short it's with your body position. Sliding back is bad as it upsets the bike and will make it wheelie more. Being locked into the bike with feet, knees and hands does the trick.
P.S. tank pads and a stickier racing seat helps too !
Would love to see a Sonoma Raceway Track Guide as well!
Thanks for the request ! Will certainly make one later this year !
@@MonoMoto Looking forward to it! Thanks for this super well made Thunderhill video! Can't wait to get back and try it out (... maybe I'll finally get out of Novice group?)
@@mackmama hehe still need to improve a few things for the next video to earn the "super well made" but working on it :) thx for the advance kudos *:)
Getting to the next group is all about practice and lines. Hope this helps you.
Good stuff. I'm on a 400
Thanks ! You probably have very different brake points :)
@@MonoMoto for sure! The cyclone got me in Oct. Will be enter the NRS in March.
@@tipinracing6101 hope you didn’t crash or crash not hard at least !
@@MonoMoto th-cam.com/video/ZuIcOIaO1vM/w-d-xo.html
Good video, thanks for putting it together!
One suggestion - instead of using TH-cam for playback, use a video player playing a file on your computer. This will avoid the distracting TH-cam splash screen every time you unpause.
Thanks for the idea!