The fact that prior to this update you could be an S safety rated driver and be matched with E safety rated drivers is ridiculous! Hopefully this new update fixes that, but I guess we won't truly know as they don't show opponents safety rating in game!! I wish they would just show the safety and driver ratings of the people you are up against, why do they have to be so secretive about it??!
@@sambradford8624 nah, there's no queue for lobbies so people are just dumped into any random match regardless of skill. Population is irrelevant. Also makes the tradeoff of an event every X amount of time useless
Tbf I think they launched the game with many 'features' that were in place but never worked. The rating system for one. Looked like it was doing something but actually was just for show. The game needed another years worth of dev time at least.
Came across my 360 this morning and curiously popped in FM4. I forgot how many tracks there used to be. I wish for more tracks and I miss the drag racing/drift modes.
They rotate their workers so their contractor never work for enough time to become full time employees. Then a new group of devs is brought on and need to continue the work of those who were sent away. It's a revolving door that garantess only the most mediocre of products can be made.
Nice narrative 😅 A manager with five-digit salary subcontract to an offshore company to do the development and negotiate a yearly contract of 4 digits for the entire game. I like the drop down list to select the racing track showing only two values 😅.
Haven't been keeping up to date with Game, gas it improved much since launch. My xb1 is dying and not sure if I'll be able to transfer fm7 to series x or s, so may be stuck with either ditching fm7, getting serues x/s or ps5 and gt7. I'm convinced gt7 is more realistic biased than arcade if these two simcades.
100% would rather have that BC compatible at this point. Then we would finally have Fujimi kaido, club shared garage, a good market place, and Soccer even!
Please add radars. In the lobbies it’s chaotic. You never know if the guy bumped into you by accident or trying to ram you. After turn 1 everyone is frustrated.
they ruined it for themselves no one is gonna buy any new games from them at least i would never again. how can they not put drag racing and drifting in a racing game
Not to mention never adding real motorsport modifications. For the love of God why can I still not put 285s or realistic looking aero on my little ford escort? Not every car uses the same damn splitter or wing 😭
Dude... I've grown up playing Forza.. I can't even remember how many days I spent playing fm3, especially and on. But dude, this game sucks.. It doesn't even LOOK significantly better if you aren't looking for details you wouldn't otherwise see anyway.. (and yes I'm playing on an X, with a 4k tv) The progression feels so hobbled compared to previous titles it isnt even rewarding to play, more like releiving to be done with that specific series. The menus are SO fking fk'd up. I STILL blunder my way through them half the time.. I'm equally impressed and surprised they came up with such a convoluted mess of having to go here for this and here for that.. The car progression was a senseless and unwelcome change.. What was wrong with just having mfg affinity?? Lastly, these "updates" are a total joke.. You're adding patches that could've been hot fixes and calling them updates.. They're neither.. lol
Still no drift tracks, still no open trackday or drift lobbies, no set race class playlist to stay available online, still missing a ton of tracks. Literal clownfest game bro.
Mt fuji Mt panorama Japanese cars needed More championships The updates each month does nothing we still sit here complaining because so much more is needed still
It's unbelievable how fh5 gets way more content added to it while its towards the end of its life hahaha. Like come on T10 what is this slack adding in so few actually new things to the game. Its still worse than fm7. Like 90% of the changes made to everything menus, how things work ect is worse than the previous games. It wasnt broken you didnt need to change anything. What was wrong with the way you would select a car, get in it and then choose what you want to do after that? Now it feels like a cheap game where you dont even get in the cars until at the track anymore, and even then its terrible. Game still forgets half the things you change with the car, have to select tyres every time you change car. It changes the car restrictions by itself. Takes maybe 3x the button presses and 2x the time just to swap between a couple different cars and track when test driving. In fact ill make a video on that to show how un streamlined theyve made everything
You're 100% correct. They should have only spent time on what matters with the physics, adding features to cars etc. I was really hoping they would try to add features that are getting added to the cars in real life. Why is it still basically on or off for TC when in modern cars they have dials with 10 different traction control settings. And when it comes to aero and body mods they're still in the stone age. They should have contacted aftermarket companies and asked them if they want their modifications in the game but instead we get a rear wing and a front splitter. Also, why did they remove vehicle info like the engine map etc? Players want more info and more abilities to change things not less and we've gotten less. And why do we need to win certain career series to get access to cars that were in PREVIOUS versions of FM? They spent so much time focusing on the wrong things.
@@tuclance then why make motorsport at all? That's why they have horizon. Horizon is for those people but the people that want more racing with better physics all want Motorsport. If they stopped making it those people would go straight to Gran Turismo and leave Xbox behind. Motorsport offers something for people that love cars but aren't gamers. It's what built the entire Forza brand.
That's because, it's an "Arcade" version. Not professional racing at all. FM8 is releasing things on time as they don't wanna kill every experience immediately. Hence, keep the amazing game going.
@@KTR_ProrataEevee FH5 got the big one after Playground had a Change of Creative Director, Mike Brown Quit/Got Fired (good, because he was utterly incompetent!) and Torben Ellert took over and Basically gave the Game a much needed Mid Lifespan Reboot! Shame he failed/was not allowed, to Scrap the FOMO Chore Chart Garbage however... No one knows Who, if anyone, is even in charge at Turn 10 at the Moment...
Not only graphics, but also content in the trailer: Forza Motorsport - Official Trailer - Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase 2022 at exactly 0:24 there was even a drift mode and if you stop to analyze the look of the cars they were also removed or changed in the final version.
Yea, if you want the graphics shown on the release, you need to buy the series x specific version. I've got it and the graphics are the best I've seen yet from Forza. It's a huge game and they would have needed to play it down for the smaller systems to run it.
I felt anxious watching this... like it actually pissed me off because it told me almost nothing and showed stuff we already have! Playground games doesn't a phenomenal job walking us through changes meanwhile turn 10 makes us wait for a 6 minute highlight reel
Dito bro, been drifting in FM since FM2. They haven’t listened to the community and have made terrible decisions. For the first time ever I’d admit that grand turismo is a significantly better game. I don’t even wanna get started with the games available on PC. FM doesn’t even compare tbh. This game is an absolute failure in my opinion.
I rarely play because of the rotating classes in multi-player. I enjoy racing in A class and occasionally S class and Forza 8 just refuses to keep all the classes open at all times (like Forza Motorsport 7) so I only race when A class is available and sometimes S class.
Credit when it's due, first impressions from racing with AI is it's a huge improvement. Not perfect, but much more like an enjoyable racing experience and that's all we want. Next up multiplayer, fingers crossed.
Still waiting on Bathurst, Sebring, Long Beach and many other real-world tracks that were in FM7. Would love the ability to create a custom race with cars from my garage (to include setup and livery).
Im still waiting on them to fix the AI that randomly brake in the middle of long straights on 7-8 difficulty. I thought the AI was supposed to be re-imagined and built from the ground up, but it is more of the same from Forza 7.
Just put a proper, fixed career mode in this game for Christs sake. People with jobs and families cannot get on for enough time every week to complete these limited time events. How did Turn 10 forget how to make a good Forza since number 4?
the things that actually matter: - safety rating improvements - AI improvements - tire wear multiplier for free play / private multiplayer - some spec series car balance changes - no more weather changes mid-race in featured multiplayer - assorted bug fixes
You have many cars, circuits and the same series every week. I'm starting to get bored now. The excuse is that we put this series requested by the community, of course because you know what works, because if not, you will be left without people online
One thing I have noticed and would change is the race starts at Daytona, due to the banking on the tri-oval it may be necessary to either go to a rolling start for races at Daytona or move the grid position back to the flat portion at the start of pit road. This would ensure all competitors are able to get going without the rear of the car dipping to the left and causing you to drive head on into the wall at the start of a race. I have seen and experienced this frequently. I also do not believe that there are any real life races with the exception of motorcycle races that are a standing start at this track and I do believe it will help with the quality of races at what is arguably one of the best tracks in North America.
This is the first Forza that I haven't bother playing. The same recycled cars as "new Content," still missing tracks that haven't appeared since FM4, FM4 still has the most driving event types by a mile. It's like Turn 10 almost stopped even trying to add content they already had, let alone adding something new.
Have they given up on this game? Do they realize that the game doesn’t work properly on PC and that even when it does work it looks awful? You could have sent this entire update as an in game message!!!
Im not one to be negative with comments, but honestly the devs either don’t understand what everyone wants, or they just don’t care! I don’t understand why new races are added but existing races are removed?! Why not just add more each update?! There’s such a small amount of content in this game at any one time. Just add more races each month so the game is always expanding and we can go back to do races we’ve done before and liked. You guys are constantly given feedback, and even ask for it sometimes, but you don’t listen to it
Look man, I’m sure the vast majority of people will share this sentiment. Idc about these updates until you guys add a drift mode to multiplayer. Drifting is the only reason I’ve played forza for damn near 20 years and you guys have yet to add something that has been in every game. The track list in the game is also lacking severely and the customization just isn’t quite what we expect coming from turn 10 in 2023-2024. There are customization options we had in older games that were stripped in this FM and I honestly feel like I paid $80 for a downgraded version of FM7 with better graphics. We’ve asked for Fujimi Kaido since FM4 was made obsolete and yet no Fujimi Kaido. We’ve asked for more customization like the ability for to change your offset on wheels or better body kits for cars but somehow we’ve ended up with less. Like dude there’s body kits and wheels that have been in the game since fm2 or 3 and yet we were promised an entirely new game. I’m just disappointed Turn 10. You guys did not deliver on what was promised. the only groundbreaking thing about this game is the amount of money turn 10 has made for such little content.
@@MrZBlackneffect it’s infuriating honestly. I have yet to play anything on multiplayer because of it. FM4 had a great system, I don’t understand why they ever broke away from it. They should’ve just built on it. Even down to the way you could vote to kick people. They had in FM7 but it never worked. Idk what they’re thinking at turn 10 but they need to fire a few ppl
@@JoseGarcia-tc1sf Are you a bot or are you just a immaculate kid? Who starts a conversation with someone they don't know with "you gotta be on crack"? Also, that's your opinion that racing in one class is "boring," I have my own opinion. I prefer A class and S class. You can change class every week, that's your prerogative not mine.
Which is hilarious, considering the fact that car was shown numerous times in pre-release trailers but didn't appear in the game at launch. Maybe in update 21, we might get those formula drift cars we were promised 🤣
@@HRM.HReadding everything that should've been at launch to begin with 🤦. Basically just baiting in players with readded stuff so they don't have to actually spend money to make more money. Typical
nice new update!!!! new match making ey.... now try and find more than 10 people to race against that's if it will even load into a race. little late for this so called update anyway everyone has already moved on to bigger and better things, like the staff at turn 10. cant wait to wear the cool new suit 👍
The game is still not that enjoyable. Still getting taking out by stupid people that don't know how to race. Where are the drag races? The drift races? Drag tires are available but no drag races? Give more racing options.
Tell me what you want but Turn 10 really needs new and fresh devs. Its so frustating. Where is Forza GT class Rivals? Why we dont have a timer to see when we have full control of the car after pitstop? Why the game crashes when i was searching for new designs? Safety system is a joke too.
So are we getting a proximity radar in multiplayer or not? It's one of the things listed in the update notes, I thought you would have wanted to showcase it here?
@@CAMCOHplay there was an update notes released a few days ago which stated a spectator mode was being introduced and a proximity radar… anyone who read the notes will remember. I cannot find the notes now so I can only assume they were taken down by T10.
I just got the game a few days ago as I am just getting into racing - I have played around 9 hours and spent some time looking for my stats from career mode to see the trophies and podiums I have achieved, only to learn this game has no stat database!? I could not believe it, now my incentive to keep playing has dropped. One of the most fun things would be keeping track of my improvements, what a joke!
The narrator in this video is clearly reading his lines. He has no passion and can't even pronounce Caterham. Fitting metaphor for the entire game tbh.
I hope this update is fix vram overflow memory problem! My pc say that 5.2gb uses vram memory, in real value is 6.5-7.4gb its for full hd settings. When i activate retracing memory is overflowing full and then drop down fps and then memory capacity error window lights up
@@WhiteCranKOk, I trying to change but, for many games of last years 8gb vram for Full hd resolution always Enough, not in this game. I have RTX 2060 super v-card. Forza horizon 5 goes ultra/high textures with retracing on my video card. Game not optimized
@@WhiteCranKunfortunately it’s still happening, happened to me yesterday. Full auto, dynamic render on ultra, with dlss on highest settings, all that with ultrawide 1080p monitor with a 3060ti. Game ran extremely good compared to launch but yeah received my first vram warning pop up!
Good start, now work on bringing back all the NASCAR content that should’ve been released at launch along with Road Atlanta, Rio, Sebring and COTA 💪🏿🇺🇸🔥🇺🇸🔥🇺🇸🔥✊🏿
Is this "Update" a joke? At this point it's just embarrassing! I had hopes that without a new track we would get more QoL-Content (Radar, manual controls for headlights etc.) and again, T10 knows how to disappoint. I'm done with this trash!
You present some of these bugfixes like they were the biggest features ever. So wow, you increased the calculation from 10 to 20 races for the safety rating... Junior programmers could make that change, are you for real? I hope this involves some really awesome under the hood tuning cos otherwise I can't explain it. I actually bought this game, I'm not a GPass player. I play Single Player only. Thanks for nothing then, I guess. Have you at least fixed the "race suit reverting to the orange one" bug? I bet you did... not.
@@WhiteCranK You are right, I take it back, they indeed did that. And with this pace we will have a playable SP game in 2028. The AI is still absolutely retarded, I do hope this change will make it at least a bit better.
@@REEEALS.A I said I don't care? I thought I said no one else cares. Let me check. *Checks comment* Yup, that's what I said. Ain't NO ONE care about this game. You must be a Turn 10 employee. You should get back to making the game decent.
@@xianmania8199 watch the video , but for my humble opinion , no extra tracks , some that should of been in from launch , no class based multiplayer lobbies , like d through to x , only the rotating one , the sound of some of the cars isn't too great , the ai in single player is still moronic .
Whooptie doo. Make it possible for me to adjust my career race length and I might have a reason to start playing again. Until then, enjoy the 100 bucks I gave you for nothing.
the updates are intentionally horrible because microsoft wants to kill off motorsport so they can direct all resources to horizon. horizon is their cash cow and they want motorsport to be forgotten. theres literally no other explanation to how you can produce THIS bad of a game with such a good foundation unless its intentional.
There’s no grand conspiracy, MS would just cancel the Motorsport series instead of wasting money on intentionally developing a bad game. This game is what happens when you think you can just throw money at devs on short term contracts, with no passion for what they are making because they will be gone in 18 months, add a little live service FOMO, and expect it to work out well.
Know what they changed in this update? "Players of S safety rating will no longer be matched with players of E and D safety rating." So not only safety rating until now was a complete lie, now you'll only be forced to play with rammers that have one more brain cell than the rest. And that took them 8 months to do it. This game is just garbage.
@@timmyrandomvideos4375 basically it means like something that was you know unresponsive when you get to the scene or in this case you pick the game and the minute it launched. It was basically abandoned due to the lack of tracks mediocre gameplay and just laziness from the developer so that's a good way of putting it.
Please let the new track be a street course. Detroit Belle Isle or the new circuit would be awesome. I would personally love to see more street circuits in the game. New York street circuits from the earlier games were awesome and I love having Long Beach, but please get some street circuits in the near future. I feel it would be a nice change and great for having more diverse track types.
I'm having more fun emulating Forza Motorsport 2 on PC with visual glitches than watching this video witnessing the fall of a legendary game deeper after every update. I played this in the first month of release, thanks to Game Pass, I'm not even interested in renewing the subscription because this game is so dead, flat and boring, said by a long time Forza fan, you screwed everything.
Need to add Sebring monza, road Atlanta, Bathurst immediately
Agreed i want all those tracks too. Seems empty without them
Well from what I read we won't be getting an new best update It's focused around the AI
Just only one track coming up.
And it has to be SEBRING RACEWAY!
idk if this is a hot take but i want rio de janiero. one of my favorite tracks. also long beach, i like street circuits
These ain't no content updates, they're just monthly playlists
agree with that , at this rate game will be dead before they add real interesting content ;[
*It's already dead.* @@Pieteros21
Yup. I uninstalled months ago and I'll check it again end of the year. Breaks my heart how Horizon is a 10/10 but motorsport is an afterthought
@@Bristol57 for me even horizon got boring without any noticable progression system but at least they adding stuff and features regularly
The game looks like crap and has since day one and it stutters and glitches at 1080p on a 4090 just bad
The fact that prior to this update you could be an S safety rated driver and be matched with E safety rated drivers is ridiculous!
Hopefully this new update fixes that, but I guess we won't truly know as they don't show opponents safety rating in game!! I wish they would just show the safety and driver ratings of the people you are up against, why do they have to be so secretive about it??!
Probaly bc of the declining player base to fill the lobby they made it wide matched
@@sambradford8624 nah, there's no queue for lobbies so people are just dumped into any random match regardless of skill. Population is irrelevant. Also makes the tradeoff of an event every X amount of time useless
@@sambradford8624it was like this from day one, just throwing everyone into random lobbies to make sure they were full
Tbf I think they launched the game with many 'features' that were in place but never worked. The rating system for one. Looked like it was doing something but actually was just for show. The game needed another years worth of dev time at least.
Why even have the safety rating if you arent going to match players from the same rating...
Came across my 360 this morning and curiously popped in FM4. I forgot how many tracks there used to be. I wish for more tracks and I miss the drag racing/drift modes.
Amen!
The best forza game ever!!
Yes sir
"You'll eat your live service slop and you'll like it, peasant." - microsoft
Forza 4 is the absolute best they ever made by FAR!
After that, has been downhill...
5 was the worst, now this edition is the worst, Great job T10...
Tyre wear multiplayer in Private Multiplayer and Free Play is a good addition, thanks for that.
do they have 3 people working on this game??
They rotate their workers so their contractor never work for enough time to become full time employees. Then a new group of devs is brought on and need to continue the work of those who were sent away.
It's a revolving door that garantess only the most mediocre of products can be made.
Nice narrative 😅
A manager with five-digit salary subcontract to an offshore company to do the development and negotiate a yearly contract of 4 digits for the entire game.
I like the drop down list to select the racing track showing only two values 😅.
Haven't been keeping up to date with Game, gas it improved much since launch. My xb1 is dying and not sure if I'll be able to transfer fm7 to series x or s, so may be stuck with either ditching fm7, getting serues x/s or ps5 and gt7. I'm convinced gt7 is more realistic biased than arcade if these two simcades.
@@remissiveslaveGet PS5 and GT7, it's not the best, but it's alright
Just make FM4 backwards compatible so we can enjoy this series again!
FM4 sucks
@@rcplayground7Yeah, that’s just utter BS..
@@rcplayground7 *Said no one ever*
100% would rather have that BC compatible at this point. Then we would finally have Fujimi kaido, club shared garage, a good market place, and Soccer even!
@@rcplayground7 You never played it, so how would you know??
It is the best concept they ever had, by far...
Splendid a 5 week wait for 2 recycled cars and a race suit. .. . Outstanding.
This game is so pathetic, lets hope itll be the death of Forza Motorsport
Why would you want that @@MartiniPinball
Please add radars. In the lobbies it’s chaotic. You never know if the guy bumped into you by accident or trying to ram you. After turn 1 everyone is frustrated.
They already announced in a blog post that it’s coming.
What is radar?
@@ilbroducciorecoming? Shouldve been there from launch..
I’m amazed on how a racing game that has “motorsport” in it’s name still completely lacks of racing cars in it’s career mode
they ruined it for themselves no one is gonna buy any new games from them at least i would never again. how can they not put drag racing and drifting in a racing game
Not to mention never adding real motorsport modifications. For the love of God why can I still not put 285s or realistic looking aero on my little ford escort? Not every car uses the same damn splitter or wing 😭
@@MrSirGiuseppe build from the ground up btw
@@MrSirGiuseppe bro its a joke .. why is rx7 only right hand drive .. think about that
Their idea of the perfect race is with grocery cars.
Update 8 : Microsoft shuts down Turn 10 🪦
That Would be awsome
Lol😂
Hope not, just buy this game and have fun. Thats simple.
Or subscribe to gamepass.
Hahaha
Dude... I've grown up playing Forza.. I can't even remember how many days I spent playing fm3, especially and on. But dude, this game sucks.. It doesn't even LOOK significantly better if you aren't looking for details you wouldn't otherwise see anyway.. (and yes I'm playing on an X, with a 4k tv)
The progression feels so hobbled compared to previous titles it isnt even rewarding to play, more like releiving to be done with that specific series.
The menus are SO fking fk'd up. I STILL blunder my way through them half the time.. I'm equally impressed and surprised they came up with such a convoluted mess of having to go here for this and here for that..
The car progression was a senseless and unwelcome change.. What was wrong with just having mfg affinity??
Lastly, these "updates" are a total joke.. You're adding patches that could've been hot fixes and calling them updates.. They're neither.. lol
So where is the content??? These are just playlists and 1 "new" car...
Don't rember Ginetta in FM7
@@Kl0zi9999 I think he means the BMW 1M.
Really glad this 95 GB update has absolutely nothing new.
Still no drift tracks, still no open trackday or drift lobbies, no set race class playlist to stay available online, still missing a ton of tracks. Literal clownfest game bro.
It's 11.4GB on PC
Mt fuji
Mt panorama
Japanese cars needed
More championships
The updates each month does nothing we still sit here complaining because so much more is needed still
Japanese cars are overrated, the most important ones are already in the game...
Drift. Mode.
It's unbelievable how fh5 gets way more content added to it while its towards the end of its life hahaha. Like come on T10 what is this slack adding in so few actually new things to the game. Its still worse than fm7. Like 90% of the changes made to everything menus, how things work ect is worse than the previous games. It wasnt broken you didnt need to change anything. What was wrong with the way you would select a car, get in it and then choose what you want to do after that? Now it feels like a cheap game where you dont even get in the cars until at the track anymore, and even then its terrible. Game still forgets half the things you change with the car, have to select tyres every time you change car. It changes the car restrictions by itself. Takes maybe 3x the button presses and 2x the time just to swap between a couple different cars and track when test driving. In fact ill make a video on that to show how un streamlined theyve made everything
thing is, this was exactly how fh5 was in the first year (feeling like nothing was being added), until the BIG one hit (series 19)
You're 100% correct. They should have only spent time on what matters with the physics, adding features to cars etc. I was really hoping they would try to add features that are getting added to the cars in real life. Why is it still basically on or off for TC when in modern cars they have dials with 10 different traction control settings. And when it comes to aero and body mods they're still in the stone age. They should have contacted aftermarket companies and asked them if they want their modifications in the game but instead we get a rear wing and a front splitter. Also, why did they remove vehicle info like the engine map etc? Players want more info and more abilities to change things not less and we've gotten less. And why do we need to win certain career series to get access to cars that were in PREVIOUS versions of FM? They spent so much time focusing on the wrong things.
@@tuclance then why make motorsport at all? That's why they have horizon. Horizon is for those people but the people that want more racing with better physics all want Motorsport. If they stopped making it those people would go straight to Gran Turismo and leave Xbox behind. Motorsport offers something for people that love cars but aren't gamers. It's what built the entire Forza brand.
That's because, it's an "Arcade" version. Not professional racing at all. FM8 is releasing things on time as they don't wanna kill every experience immediately. Hence, keep the amazing game going.
@@KTR_ProrataEevee FH5 got the big one after Playground had a Change of Creative Director, Mike Brown Quit/Got Fired (good, because he was utterly incompetent!) and Torben Ellert took over and Basically gave the Game a much needed Mid Lifespan Reboot! Shame he failed/was not allowed, to Scrap the FOMO Chore Chart Garbage however...
No one knows Who, if anyone, is even in charge at Turn 10 at the Moment...
Forza Motorsport is on life support, failing to attract new players and barely retaining old ones.
graphics downgrade is unreal from the initial trailers
I've notes yesterday when I played on nurburgring nordschleife the trees look downgraded from release don't know why. eddit: I'm on the series x
Must be playing in series s
Not only graphics, but also content in the trailer: Forza Motorsport - Official Trailer - Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase 2022 at exactly 0:24 there was even a drift mode and if you stop to analyze the look of the cars they were also removed or changed in the final version.
Yea, if you want the graphics shown on the release, you need to buy the series x specific version. I've got it and the graphics are the best I've seen yet from Forza. It's a huge game and they would have needed to play it down for the smaller systems to run it.
@@tommyvlogssimz4274 The game itself is absolutely awful
Just add a radar at least for close or side by side driving.
Forza: mmmm we need to release new content with out having new content.
I felt anxious watching this... like it actually pissed me off because it told me almost nothing and showed stuff we already have!
Playground games doesn't a phenomenal job walking us through changes meanwhile turn 10 makes us wait for a 6 minute highlight reel
I find very little reason to keep playing FM 2023, empty and soul-less with a frustrating GUI. And I was a longtime faithful Forza player.
Dito bro, been drifting in FM since FM2. They haven’t listened to the community and have made terrible decisions. For the first time ever I’d admit that grand turismo is a significantly better game. I don’t even wanna get started with the games available on PC. FM doesn’t even compare tbh. This game is an absolute failure in my opinion.
I rarely play because of the rotating classes in multi-player. I enjoy racing in A class and occasionally S class and Forza 8 just refuses to keep all the classes open at all times (like Forza Motorsport 7) so I only race when A class is available and sometimes S class.
@@BrOkEnSkAtEr1295 yo Im thinking of getting a PS5 just to try Gran Turismo
It's absolutely terrible, probably one the worst racing games I've played in a long time.
@MrMadanibarry getting a whole console to play one game is quite possibly one of the worst financial decisions you can make
Credit when it's due, first impressions from racing with AI is it's a huge improvement.
Not perfect, but much more like an enjoyable racing experience and that's all we want.
Next up multiplayer, fingers crossed.
Could you explain how they're better now?
Are they faster too?
Because on difficulty 8 they're still really slow :(
Still waiting on Bathurst, Sebring, Long Beach and many other real-world tracks that were in FM7.
Would love the ability to create a custom race with cars from my garage (to include setup and livery).
I can't imaging how stuning will New York track looks with the current Forza engine, so please bring the New York track back.
I would love to see favourite cars be add that way I don't need to scroll to all my cars.
This drip fed "career" mode is SO DAMN ANNOYING
Im still waiting on them to fix the AI that randomly brake in the middle of long straights on 7-8 difficulty. I thought the AI was supposed to be re-imagined and built from the ground up, but it is more of the same from Forza 7.
i played 200+h of forza 7 and for me the one's in new game seems WORSE hh
Cool. Track toys. The next track being added better be good. Better be formula drift cars like we saw in the launch trailer.
I hope you fix the graphics, reflections, rays, and car sound
Yes fix all that so basically start again “from the ground up”
@@keysersoze2041they didn't mention from the ground up was literally like digging up a dead corpse.
Why it looks and sound great to me
@@colin7225 from the ground up
@@dargis49Gran turismo is horrible 😂
That was it?
Just put a proper, fixed career mode in this game for Christs sake. People with jobs and families cannot get on for enough time every week to complete these limited time events. How did Turn 10 forget how to make a good Forza since number 4?
the things that actually matter:
- safety rating improvements
- AI improvements
- tire wear multiplier for free play / private multiplayer
- some spec series car balance changes
- no more weather changes mid-race in featured multiplayer
- assorted bug fixes
No weather changes is pretty lame tbh.
Loool why exhausts look the same? Stock, sport etc. Did you repair wheel usb issues, mini delays?:) Wheel ET parameter added? Cockpit view adjusting?
No wheel usb issues here mate..
You have many cars, circuits and the same series every week. I'm starting to get bored now. The excuse is that we put this series requested by the community, of course because you know what works, because if not, you will be left without people online
One thing I have noticed and would change is the race starts at Daytona, due to the banking on the tri-oval it may be necessary to either go to a rolling start for races at Daytona or move the grid position back to the flat portion at the start of pit road. This would ensure all competitors are able to get going without the rear of the car dipping to the left and causing you to drive head on into the wall at the start of a race. I have seen and experienced this frequently. I also do not believe that there are any real life races with the exception of motorcycle races that are a standing start at this track and I do believe it will help with the quality of races at what is arguably one of the best tracks in North America.
Arrows just isn't good enough we need radar and spotter.
U need better drivers in forza
They'll add radar.. it's already announced.
Absolutely, don't get why this hasn't been top priority.
feels like tap has been turn right down and drip fed is slowing even more. Wow BMW 1 for reward geez that as exciting as watch grass grow.
Love the game. It's definitely my favorite Forza Motorsport title. The amount of detail is awesome. More tracks would be welcome.
Why are these "updates" so bad and barebones?
I’m not surprised, they clearly ain’t responding to what we want car wise
Because the game is barebones so they have to drip feed us content and fixes that should’ve been implemented before launch
Tbh they ain't bad for what they are actually doing in the background of a rushed game yeah its been in work for "years" but still rushed is rushed
Build from the ground up @@speedhunter7156
Only so much you can do in a couple of months on a closed track racer
This is the first Forza that I haven't bother playing. The same recycled cars as "new Content," still missing tracks that haven't appeared since FM4, FM4 still has the most driving event types by a mile. It's like Turn 10 almost stopped even trying to add content they already had, let alone adding something new.
Have they given up on this game? Do they realize that the game doesn’t work properly on PC and that even when it does work it looks awful? You could have sent this entire update as an in game message!!!
Still a beta game for the full price. Add more tracks and dear God give us a long distance race Mode with the nordschleife to the lobbys
Will ray traced global illumination be coming soon?
Why would they bother when they can already advertise the game like it's there anyway?
Oh... Sorry, that Feature was Scrapped as the Purple Haired Land Whales found it Elitist and threw their Shoes at the CCD...
Im not one to be negative with comments, but honestly the devs either don’t understand what everyone wants, or they just don’t care! I don’t understand why new races are added but existing races are removed?! Why not just add more each update?! There’s such a small amount of content in this game at any one time. Just add more races each month so the game is always expanding and we can go back to do races we’ve done before and liked. You guys are constantly given feedback, and even ask for it sometimes, but you don’t listen to it
Forza Motorsport 7 is MUCH better game.
True
Look man, I’m sure the vast majority of people will share this sentiment. Idc about these updates until you guys add a drift mode to multiplayer. Drifting is the only reason I’ve played forza for damn near 20 years and you guys have yet to add something that has been in every game. The track list in the game is also lacking severely and the customization just isn’t quite what we expect coming from turn 10 in 2023-2024. There are customization options we had in older games that were stripped in this FM and I honestly feel like I paid $80 for a downgraded version of FM7 with better graphics. We’ve asked for Fujimi Kaido since FM4 was made obsolete and yet no Fujimi Kaido. We’ve asked for more customization like the ability for to change your offset on wheels or better body kits for cars but somehow we’ve ended up with less. Like dude there’s body kits and wheels that have been in the game since fm2 or 3 and yet we were promised an entirely new game. I’m just disappointed Turn 10. You guys did not deliver on what was promised. the only groundbreaking thing about this game is the amount of money turn 10 has made for such little content.
I just want all of the classes open in multi-player at all times. This waiting nearly a month to race in one specific class is aggravating.
@@MrZBlackneffect it’s infuriating honestly. I have yet to play anything on multiplayer because of it. FM4 had a great system, I don’t understand why they ever broke away from it. They should’ve just built on it. Even down to the way you could vote to kick people. They had in FM7 but it never worked. Idk what they’re thinking at turn 10 but they need to fire a few ppl
@@MrZBlackneffectyou gotta be on crack! I love it. Racing the same class is sooooo boring
@@JoseGarcia-tc1sf Are you a bot or are you just a immaculate kid? Who starts a conversation with someone they don't know with "you gotta be on crack"?
Also, that's your opinion that racing in one class is "boring," I have my own opinion. I prefer A class and S class. You can change class every week, that's your prerogative not mine.
@@MrZBlackneffect someone’s mad. Dude relax. 😂 just don’t get mad when you hear other opinions
Now we’re getting the 935 in the $80 financial mistake.
Which is hilarious, considering the fact that car was shown numerous times in pre-release trailers but didn't appear in the game at launch. Maybe in update 21, we might get those formula drift cars we were promised 🤣
They are just readding cars from motorsport 7... called it from the start
@@HRM.HReadding everything that should've been at launch to begin with 🤦. Basically just baiting in players with readded stuff so they don't have to actually spend money to make more money. Typical
nice new update!!!! new match making ey.... now try and find more than 10 people to race against that's if it will even load into a race. little late for this so called update anyway everyone has already moved on to bigger and better things, like the staff at turn 10. cant wait to wear the cool new suit 👍
Will my driver suit that I selected, stay selected
graphic improvement please
I think the graphic is far better than gt7.
Not far, no @@jconner3891
@@jconner3891
*FACTS!*
🤡
@@jconner3891 Not when they are using 2005 models
The game is still not that enjoyable. Still getting taking out by stupid people that don't know how to race. Where are the drag races? The drift races? Drag tires are available but no drag races? Give more racing options.
What's new in Update 8:
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
Edit: Not surprisingly, I was right.
Yes hard to pinpoint the improvement, oh dear whats this. it’s the same as before pants
Tell me what you want but Turn 10 really needs new and fresh devs. Its so frustating.
Where is Forza GT class Rivals?
Why we dont have a timer to see when we have full control of the car after pitstop?
Why the game crashes when i was searching for new designs?
Safety system is a joke too.
Tsukuba race track is so desperately needed in this game
Props on the tire wear and matte/gloss options, but A LOT more work needs done to be better than fm7
Please leave the featered tours in the Game and bring back the past ones, so we can enjoy them everytime we want, so we dont have the miss out anxiety
So are we getting a proximity radar in multiplayer or not? It's one of the things listed in the update notes, I thought you would have wanted to showcase it here?
Where does it say that in the patch note? I've read the patch note 2 times already and didn't find such information there
@@CAMCOHplay there was an update notes released a few days ago which stated a spectator mode was being introduced and a proximity radar… anyone who read the notes will remember. I cannot find the notes now so I can only assume they were taken down by T10.
@@lazymaverick5118 They mentioned in their quarterly update that those features "would be in the coming months".
Are you going to add a car radar and weather radar?
Where are the long-awaited statistics? Kilometers driven, races won, car driven the most??? It's a joke.
I just got the game a few days ago as I am just getting into racing - I have played around 9 hours and spent some time looking for my stats from career mode to see the trophies and podiums I have achieved, only to learn this game has no stat database!? I could not believe it, now my incentive to keep playing has dropped. One of the most fun things would be keeping track of my improvements, what a joke!
This game NEEDS VR support
On a single CPU thread? 😆
Yep, but it wont happen
This update is agressively bad
The narrator in this video is clearly reading his lines. He has no passion and can't even pronounce Caterham. Fitting metaphor for the entire game tbh.
If gran Turismo was on Xbox Forza wouldmt exist
I hope this update is fix vram overflow memory problem! My pc say that 5.2gb uses vram memory, in real value is 6.5-7.4gb its for full hd settings. When i activate retracing memory is overflowing full and then drop down fps and then memory capacity error window lights up
This problem is fixed bro. I belive since update 6 or for sure 7.
Turn your "player livery quality" to "auto" and you're good to go.
@@WhiteCranKOk, I trying to change but, for many games of last years 8gb vram for Full hd resolution always Enough, not in this game. I have RTX 2060 super v-card. Forza horizon 5 goes ultra/high textures with retracing on my video card. Game not optimized
@@alexzh.8779 It really isn't optimized good enough, that's true.
@@WhiteCranKunfortunately it’s still happening, happened to me yesterday. Full auto, dynamic render on ultra, with dlss on highest settings, all that with ultrawide 1080p monitor with a 3060ti. Game ran extremely good compared to launch but yeah received my first vram warning pop up!
@@Steve93K That's sh1t! But very weird!! With 8gb vram you definitely should be good to go. Turn off RT, it doesn't look good anyway in this game.
Can we please have Bathurst 😢
You guys should add text chat in the race lobbies before the race, would help the wait less boring..
Good start, now work on bringing back all the NASCAR content that should’ve been released at launch along with Road Atlanta, Rio, Sebring and COTA 💪🏿🇺🇸🔥🇺🇸🔥🇺🇸🔥✊🏿
I liked the new AI braking behavior. Please keep working on the AI 👍
How he says “Caterham” is like nails on a chalkboard.
Need better graphics i want the graphics that was shown in the trailer you scammers and drag racing is gone pls add it back
When will we get more hypercars from WEC and IMSA?? We have the Acura and Cadillac.
Acura isn’t a hypercat
@@luisparsons3981Ah yes, i now see it says DPi
@@YacineValfar I know what an LMP is. The Cadillac is classified in IMSA GTP and WEC Hypercar. Under the new FIA classified as "Hypercar"
Acura is a DPi car sadly we still don’t even have the Hypercar/gtp Acura that’s currently racing.
@@ryansanchez2448 my bad lol
Is this "Update" a joke? At this point it's just embarrassing! I had hopes that without a new track we would get more QoL-Content (Radar, manual controls for headlights etc.) and again, T10 knows how to disappoint.
I'm done with this trash!
On PC, Forza is beautiful!
Rivals?? For what? The leaderboards are full of cheaters, what's the point of setting a time?
Looks like a great update. The MP racing keeps getting significantly better with each release.
Want to see stats on my driver page like how many races attempt by me, win percentage, cp gain and used in the game
They only keep track of your last 10 races.
I love the game but there’s small details missing.
ive gone back to motorsport 7 due to lack of track options, more tracks and cars from horizon 5 like the 24 mustang, what are you doing turn 10
I agree the lack of tracks is the biggest issue in this game.
We need a real career mode like fm7.
Same problems as on 5th November last year, update 8 and still game dashboards me. I paid for a working game not a half game.
You present some of these bugfixes like they were the biggest features ever. So wow, you increased the calculation from 10 to 20 races for the safety rating... Junior programmers could make that change, are you for real? I hope this involves some really awesome under the hood tuning cos otherwise I can't explain it.
I actually bought this game, I'm not a GPass player. I play Single Player only. Thanks for nothing then, I guess. Have you at least fixed the "race suit reverting to the orange one" bug? I bet you did... not.
In SP they fixed the AI's braking behaviour...
@@WhiteCranK You are right, I take it back, they indeed did that. And with this pace we will have a playable SP game in 2028. The AI is still absolutely retarded, I do hope this change will make it at least a bit better.
@@pocolashon It actually is a lot better, but still not perfect. And yeah, sadly i have to agree with 2028. Idk what they're doing over there!
13 people waiting. Dang. I guess it's just Turn 10 employees cause ain't no one care about this game anymore.
Sure you dont care
Enough to comment
@@REEEALS.A I said I don't care? I thought I said no one else cares. Let me check. *Checks comment* Yup, that's what I said.
Ain't NO ONE care about this game. You must be a Turn 10 employee. You should get back to making the game decent.
That could be amazing 👏
Если бы сотрудников действительно волновала эта игра,то они не сделали бы её изначально таким дерьмом
@@alexwhite9101 😂 roasted!
Come on forza I hope this is good
Update 8 : spectator added
It is not good
It's not unfortunately
@@dwaynehicks6838 Why is that?
@@xianmania8199 watch the video , but for my humble opinion , no extra tracks , some that should of been in from launch , no class based multiplayer lobbies , like d through to x , only the rotating one , the sound of some of the cars isn't too great , the ai in single player is still moronic .
Another disappointing update😐😕
The aliens are already among us
How long might it typically take for updates to make their way to the cloud version on Game Pass Ultimate for PC?
Finally mate and glossy options for our vinyls!
HOW HAVE YOU NOT FIXED THE CRASHING ISSUE YET????????????????
Appreciate all the updates
Whooptie doo.
Make it possible for me to adjust my career race length and I might have a reason to start playing again. Until then, enjoy the 100 bucks I gave you for nothing.
the updates are intentionally horrible because microsoft wants to kill off motorsport so they can direct all resources to horizon. horizon is their cash cow and they want motorsport to be forgotten. theres literally no other explanation to how you can produce THIS bad of a game with such a good foundation unless its intentional.
There’s no grand conspiracy, MS would just cancel the Motorsport series instead of wasting money on intentionally developing a bad game.
This game is what happens when you think you can just throw money at devs on short term contracts, with no passion for what they are making because they will be gone in 18 months, add a little live service FOMO, and expect it to work out well.
Know what they changed in this update?
"Players of S safety rating will no longer be matched with players of E and D safety rating."
So not only safety rating until now was a complete lie, now you'll only be forced to play with rammers that have one more brain cell than the rest. And that took them 8 months to do it.
This game is just garbage.
Just get your safety rating up lol...
Who agrees that Forza Motorsport 4 is the definitive game of the franchise?
The penalty system needs an update. How about plat ACC to get an idea of how it should be?
This game was DOA
tf does DOA mean?
@@timmyrandomvideos4375 Dead on arrival
@@timmyrandomvideos4375 basically it means like something that was you know unresponsive when you get to the scene or in this case you pick the game and the minute it launched. It was basically abandoned due to the lack of tracks mediocre gameplay and just laziness from the developer so that's a good way of putting it.
Not even an update, I won't be coming back to motorsport until the prove they listen to the community. Weak weak weak, bring forza motorsport 4 back
Bruh Microsoft literally annnouced the they're not doing backwards compatibliity anymore.
Please let the new track be a street course. Detroit Belle Isle or the new circuit would be awesome.
I would personally love to see more street circuits in the game.
New York street circuits from the earlier games were awesome and I love having Long Beach, but please get some street circuits in the near future. I feel it would be a nice change and great for having more diverse track types.
Garbage.. Thumbs down once again scam 10
I'm having more fun emulating Forza Motorsport 2 on PC with visual glitches than watching this video witnessing the fall of a legendary game deeper after every update.
I played this in the first month of release, thanks to Game Pass, I'm not even interested in renewing the subscription because this game is so dead, flat and boring, said by a long time Forza fan, you screwed everything.
Cracking update. The visual side of things like the HDR change is beautiful.
Wait, did they fix the HDR??
@@WhiteCranKI noticed a difference right away.