Would love these 90s "normal" cars back in the modern games. The 323 variants, Mondeo, Punto, Prelude, Accords, Pulsars, Primeras, etc etc. Those were cars you would see everywhere growing up in the UK at the time and the fact you could rag them about in a game just delivers this sense of realism you don't get with all the modern vision cars.
@@muhammadrizkisatria5059yes, but they forgot about the road car, keeping the race car (which used to be the racing modification) from gt3 onwards (with an incorrect weight)
As a huge BMW nerd (and E39 5-series owner), its really a shame that the E36,39,38, & 31 never returned at all even in M spec configuration. And although I'm sure you've noticed the other comments but the E60 M5 brought the badge to the series in GT4
It’s good to see the community trying to place some cut cars and these forgotten cars in GT2+ and A-Spec Edition. I would like to see more of these behind the curtain cars getting the spotlight since it widens up the nuzlocks we can play. Speaking of some of these cars, some are popping up in the “New Car Suggestion” in A9, so this video might get me some ideas to bring some there for a better future.
@dynamicsushy I did saw Dustin play GT4 without using Japanese cars. I’m sure there are others out there who hit a certain amount of credits so there’s lots of opportunities to make.
Always felt like GT 3 felt like a next gen GT 1 successor, where as GT 4 felt like the true successor to GT 2, for various reasons including and beyond the large car list 2 and 4 had for their eras
This is, in my opinion, what makes GT2 one of the few truly realistic in the series: you can go into a dealership and... Have access to practically the entire production of the time and more, as in some cases. So many cars that some, like the Daiatsu van, I think, ironically featured in later titles, aren't even cars.
And also 1999 Super GT300 cars like WedsSport Celica, BP APEX KRAFT TRUENO, MOMO CORSE APEX MR2, and Porsche GT3R STP TAISAN GT300 and Renault Sifo Spider.
I am absolutely at a loss as to why GT2 is the only GT game to feature a first-gen RX7. Like, how do you ignore such a landmark car for so long? Especially as a Japanese developer? Great job on the video, Matt!
The Jaguar XJR 15 is featured in Forza Horizon 5, but never in any GT games since GT2 - Well, there are a few more of the road cars in the video that are featured in the Forza franchise. Also, the Golf was not a "VS" model. Instead, it was the VR5 (also written as V5) - This engine came from an era when VW was very creative in their designs. The VR5 engine never became a success, compared to the much more known VR6, or the standard inline-4 1.8 Turbo 20V engine. Another curious thing is that the Golf MK.2 was never featured, despite being a very popular model, even in the late 90's on the used car market. And being a VW, the Golf came in so many configurations, but the most popular ones at the time were the 1.8 and 1.6 Diesel variants, as well as the Syncro 4WD versions. Not forgetting the legendary GTI models either, with the 1.8 8V and 1.8 16V, as well as the G60 variant. - From a performance model standpoint, I am really curious to why the Golf G60 and the Polo G40 was never featured, or even the G60 Syncro Limited, which was the fastest production Golf at the time, before the R32 came along. Also curious to why the Passat has never been featured, despite being hugely popular in Europe. Most notably the 1.8 Turbo, and 1.9 TDI variants, or looking back to the 1980's with the MK.2 Passat Syncro 2.2 5E - It used a naturally aspirated variant of the legendary 5-cylinder engine, which hailed from the Audi Quattro. The Passat has been part of the european street-car scene for a long time, alongside the Golf and the well-known Audi models from that era.
Well said, what about the scirroco 1 and 2nd generation or the corrado G60 never available, yes why there's golf mk1, 3,4,5,6 but no mk2 ,any passat or even the phaeton ?? Like Polyphony ignore european taste...
This is just making me appreciate even more the nutso car roster GT2 had. Huge leap from GT1, and a lot of deep and weird pulls like the aforementioned Espace F1, the GT90, and a whole host of others. Amazing work here, Matt!
7:15 obviously not official, but GT2 Plus has a restored E36 323i Coupé. It's a pretty useful prize car. I'm still gutted 25 years later that none of the Super Tourers got carried over, especially the '98 P11 Primera. Would've been awesome to have them as fully licensed racing models in GT4.
@@KaterinUA5 I'm pretty sure Codemasters held the ToCA/BTCC license up until Motorsport Games got their grubby mits on it, which is why the '98/'99 Super Tourers were racing mods only instead of official race cars. GT3 has a fair few touring cars though, most of them are JGTC cars with 3 DTM cars (the Opel Calibra, Astra and Mercedes CLK) and a V8 Supercar (the AU Falcon).
It's impressive how gargantuan Gran Turismo 2's car list was for a game at the time. It makes sense why they drastically reduced the car list for Gran Turismo 3 given the major graphical overhault, but I wonder if we would have had less restrictive and repetitive events if there were more cars to race with. For example, all the kei cars that weren't included meant that the Lightweight K-Cup event in GT3's Beginner League could only be entered by three cars (only two of which were available to the player). Fortunately, both the Suzuki Alto Works and Daihatsu Cuore could be won from other beginner events instead of having to buy them.
More than allowing these car to return they should have fixed the inaccurate specs of cars that appeared in later games. The glaring examples are Panoz Esperante GTR-1 weight and chassis errors.(too heavy and the wheelbase, width and chassis of a road car) Overweight XJ220 and Lister cars being severely overweight in all titles the appeared in. Fix the Peugeot 905 slow shift and nerf the overperforming real life failure 88C-V.
@@purwantiallan5089 You talking about the A Spec mod right? I really want to try that one out! I hope they include the 1990 IMSA GTO RX-7 Race Car. That car was one of the most successful race cars in history and I'm confused as to why it was never implemented in the games. The closest we get is the 83 RX7 fully tuned with racing mod.
@@reinatycoon3644 yah, i havent played it myself but A spec mod fixes some of those inaccurate performace figures like the GT500 cars having over 600 to 700 HP was a mistake, and one I would love to learn the origins of. Like what did they think the 500 in GT500 meant at the time? I ended up assuming that perhaps they were unrestricted HP figures, but who knows. It was the same with the GT300 cars in GT2 instead of within 300hp they were more like within 400hp.
You could add one more car on this list from a livery standpoint is the '99 Toyota GT-One for its livery is from the Fuji 1000KM race that year. From GT3 onwards, it was made into the #3 Le Mans entry.
Getting rid of lower trim levels and differenr bodystyles is the biggest shame. Aswell as GT300 jgtc cars. Cultus Pikes peak too. P.S. I made it this far
The Tom's T111 deserved to not only be in later GT games but more in general. One of the most stunning cars of it's era and it goes entirely under the radar to this day
Great video, as a huge car nerd, I have always loved the variety of the GT games, all the Kei cars, sports cars etc etc, I need to try find a way of setting up my old consoles again.
Two things I love about this game. The variety of base cars (my first real life car was an Audi A3 1997) and also the amount of wagons. As far as I remember, there is not only 1 wagon included on GT7...
Thanks to Matt, I am now sticking to GT2 for another (A-Spec) cycle! No longer pursuing PS2 emulation now, even though my machine is more than ready...!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane Matt as always - what surprises me looking back is the sheer range of what are (on the face of it) mundane cars. But that's why I loved GT in the first place - for instance my uncle's Accord Estate (sorry Wagon) was in GT1 and 2 and I loved driving it around in full Castrol livery. Possibly very sad, but I couldn't care less
I love the variety in models GT2 had say you wanted to enter the 80s sportscar cup and want to use an R32 Skyline; you're not just locked to having the top of the line 1994 v-spec ii option; you can use the 1989 version to participate in aaid event. Btw, I made it to the end of the video (over the span of a couple days lol). Great work Matt👍🏾
Gran Turismo 2 forever the best GT game ever made!! (along with GT1 and GT4 of course) but GT2 forever the best game of the series! Everything on the game feels so magic and total nostalgia, all the cars on the game and lot of cars are only available on GT2 and never returned on the next GT games. For just 1 car example that I love so much and it's only on GT2 the totally amazing, wonderful, perfect and legendary STP Taisan Dodge Viper GT😻 Polyphony Digital making a full remake/remade of GT2, with everything from the classic 1999 game, including beta stuff all restored and included on the game, some cars from GT1 returning on GT2 too... the best GT game ever!!! and maybe addicting some more cars from the era just like the amazing mod the A-Spec for the game, also Polyphony Digital should be totally proud of the community in still making the GT2 all alive and running and more complete.
I love this game so much. Great times were had 😊, good man, Matt thanks for the memories brother 👍 I love the channel man your GT content is always top-notch stuff 👌 keep up the great work much respect 🙏 😊
Cant spell goat without gran turismo. I love gt2 as its the game my dad played when I was a kid. He'd trash me at the races every time. I dont know what it is but the 2nd one is my fave. These unique cars definitely add to that!
There are so many cars i miss seeing again. Lister storm road version and race version would've been appreciated if they made a return. I could make an endless list but ever since the first Gran turismo i always loved comparing the lap times between cars. If there's One thing that i appreciated GT 7 in having, it was the choice to use cars from the garage to race against.
With their inconsistent appearances, you could say that those Daihatsu's really MOVED quite often in the Gran Turismo Series... Also: Last I checked, the GT90 was not in the greatest shape as it appears to have not been well maintained so its appearance in ANY game now would need some serious attention. As for the 97 Nissan R390 GT1 Road car, big problem with that: The 97 and 98 model are exact same car. In yet another hilarious example of having a laugh with the GT1 regs, Nissan simply slapped a new bumper on the 97 car and rebadged it a 98 model.
Pretty fun video! Also for the RE Amemiya GT300 RX-7, it was simply updated to the 2004 tubeframe chassis version in GT4, and would in GT5 even get a premium version in form of the 2006 car that took the GT300 title that year. One thing that I feel like it's a bit of a missed opportunity for GT7, it's how they didn't made tune parts from these old tuned cars as modifications for equivalents in GT7. I'd love to get an RX-7 Spirit R for example and give it the GT-Concept aero kit!
GT2 was my first racing sim and the alfa 145 QV is now my car in reallife. I wish for years now it comes back in any racing game. Last one was 2004 kaido racer and i still did play it a couple of months ago. 😂
If I had to wager a guess, the 90's model Mitsubishi Galants were probably dropped in favor of the then newer Mitsubishi Lancers. The reason why I believe this is because I owned a base model 2002 Mitsubishi Lancer and the Haynes Repair Manual for it which detailed that the 1996-2003 Mitsubishi Lancers and Galants were the exact same car with different body moldings and trim options featuring almost exactly the same inner workings and engines. It's the same deal with a lot of Accura Integras, Honda Civics, and Honda Accord as well as they tend to be built off the same platforms with a lot of shared components but different trims and options.
Damn, I feel like with many inclusions of cars in GT2, we also lost a lot of cars mentioned going into the sequel(s), although some were updated to either newer or older models. That, along with the fact that the game gave more variants to some models which is cool and adds to the realism factor as well.
Thanks, Matt, you're great as always The only issue I was having while watching this video is absence of one of my favourite cars from GT1 and GT2 - Dodge Concept Car (Dodge Copperhead in real life). Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought, that after Gran Turismo 2 Polyphony never introduced this car again (which LM Edition as sure kicked ass and could easily beat not only GT500 championship, but World Championship as well). If they did, please specify, where exactly, so I could enjoy a bit more :)
That's definitely one I considered adding in because it changed a lot between GT1 and GT2. Ultimately I left it out because this video solely focuses on cars that only appeared on GT2 and no other games in the series. Anyway, I'm glad you liked the video. :)
Fun fact: the Sunny does appear in Forza Horizon 5, but under its appropriate localized name, the Nissan Tsuru. It was the most requested car in the Forza community. Also, The Road Runner would mostly be superceded by the Superbird, which in real life has a Road Runner trim available, complete with the iconic car horn. GT4 simply went with the standard Superbird instead of the Road Runner trim for the same reason the Road Runner was renamed in GT2. Lastly, the 1997 Corolla Rally Car is horribly slow in GT2, and the 1998 version is faster. Fast enough to stay competitive.
Isn't the 528i the L6 version? Which means 190 hrsprs, not 142. Wasn't the Terios always a SUV? This GT2 gen was sold in my country in 90's. It's not hard to get why the GT2 is still the best: it focused on daily cars, our cars, that we use or see in use, or cars our parents had, which gave and still give a different magic in the entire game. No one will ever reproduce what GT2 done.
add to that some viper also never returned 1. all of viper rt/10 (both standard and racing,tho it appeared before on first series. but it never returned after GT2,could be the console exclusive) 2. the racing version of viper oreca (white with blue stripe),canaska southwind (white with green stripe),chamberlain engineering (blue with white stripe),also never returned after 2. making it PS1 exclusive
I played both GT1 and 2 on my ps1, and really all those cars featured in your video missed me ❤. Especially the european brand with small, light, fun hatches and of course 4-doors and luxuous berlina's, they were so popular at their time. We know that choices needed to be made but cutting off and threw to the junkyard now classics cars from the early 90's and replacing them by hundred copy-paste skylines or dozens of miata's and lancers and imprezas and nsx (forcing us japanese cars to use) but hey, I tried one of each and don't need to collect them all ! GT5-6 gained quantity but loosed quality/diversification and mention that no dlc were available...
Cars I deeply miss that are in this video: Alfa 155 (yes, it's now in FH5, but it's a V6 AWD model, close, but not the same) Alfa 166. It always came across to me as a more classy 156 BMW 740i. I love a V8 E38 '97 Camaro. These earlier ones look so much better than the facelift Chrysler Phaeton. It's the law to include it Both HKS drag cars Honda Accord wagon. I just like wagons Honda Civic Ferio. And I like sedan Civics Jaguar XJR. Much nicer to look at than the S-Type Lexus SC400. Everyone loves the SC300, but I want the V8 Mazda RX-7 FB. I just really love the wedge design of the early ones Mitsubishi Legnum. I already stated that I like wagons Mitsubishi Mirage coupe, or as we call it over here, the Lancer coupe Mitsubishi Pajero Mini. These were fun Nissan March Super Turbo. Gotta love a twin charged car Nissan Primera wagon. Blah blah wagon Nissan R390 Road Car. See Toyota GT One for reasoning Literally any 4 door Nissan Skyline R34 Nissan Skyline 25GT. Because it's the R34 that you ACTUALLY see from time to time driving on the road Nissan Stagea. You can probably guess why Nissan 300ZX-GTS. C'mon, it just looks cool 1967 Plymouth GTX. This one stings the most, despite the fact the gearing was weird in GT2 (it was a 4 speed without 3rd basically). Also, that 'Cuda isn't a 1970, those taillights are from the later 72-74 or so model years. Also also, they could've gone around the Road Runner naming by just picking that year's GTX instead Renault Espace F1. Who doesn't want it to return? Subaru Vivio, possibly my favourite of the Kei cars, especially in supercharged form Toyota Caldina. Yes, there's the Caldina ED in GT4, but the earlier Caldinas look a lot nicer Toyota Celica SS-II Mechanical Sports Version, simply because LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE Celica of that generation where I live had that exact bodykit. I have never in person seen one without that. Bonnet spoilers and all NOT listed, but Toyota GT One Road Car. I'd love to see both that and the R390 Road Car appear in the same game again, and I only ever see Gran Turismo doing the GT One, despite the fact Forza has included the R390 1982 Toyota Starlet. C'mon, is a little hatchback with rear wheel drive Vector W8. It's awful, but you gotta love it
One question...err questions...did what about the TRD 3000GT, The Dodge copperhead concept, and maybe I missed the '67 stingray, and what about the NSX GT2 the one that participated in Lemans? As well as the GTR LM... again I may have missed these
Hey Matt! I know you mentioned Legnum VR-4 being in GT4, but I feel like since we have this, saying that 90s Galants were gone is a stretch - in fact, in some markets, Legnum was marketed just as Galant wagon :D And I feel like Polyphony felt it'd be a bit redundant to have Galant sedan and Galant wagon/Legnum for some reason.
For the record ive watched all of the video. Ive gotta pay nothing but respect for the amount of effort and time youve put into this. Its mad, how much GT2 spoilt us with cars.. we got so so much. You really dont know what you got, until its gone. This was why so many fans were angry at GT7 they wanted something similar to GT2 and GT4. Why the creators never got heed or the hint of how good GT2 and GT4 was, with the roster of cars.. is beyond me and anyone. But hey, its money, greed and microtransactions nowadays. 🤷🏾♂️
Can you please do (even if is a large video or by parts) A video of every and each car ever in all GT games, Pre-Buying, DLC, exclusives and so on Please!!! 🙏 Every car and version that has ever been on GT till current GT7
@@MattJ155 i remember your older videos your mic quality was superb, maybe you're using a different mic, or its probably on my end. Ill try a diff device. A lot of high, nasal-y tones, like if the audio had a old gramophone effect added to it, unless that's exactly what you did. It sounds like there is no base in your voice, and its very nasal-y.
The Ford GT90 has a similar engine aspect closer to the Veyron 16.4 GT90 has a quad turbocharger Also The Lexus GS300 Vertex Edition appeared in the later series
Allow me to correct you in some cars: It's Golf VS, ut's V5, a 5 cilinder engine. The Stagea is pronounced "Stage(ah)". And the Zanaví get a focus on the "ví" since there's a accent. Apart from that, the Beetle GT became the RSi, no?
This is the very reason GT2 will be my favourite GT. There's so many niche and oddball cars you can drive that you just can't find in other games , even future GT games.
Galant super vr4 such a good car honestly but its heavy (most galants are heavy due its made for mid class luxury instead of performance). Not much racing history but good to bring some variants for jdm legend vibes. And galant vr4 itself is still underrated 90s jdm out there
I wish they reused the mazda protege5/323f wagon for gt4! Thats what i drive, and its one of the most fun of its kind to drive. My own mother says its the most enjoyable car she's driven
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I just watched through all 66 minutes, as this herculean effort of research, footage capturing and cutting needs to get the respect it deserves.
Wish GT7 brought back venturi dealership...
Thanks for sticking around until the end!
Would love these 90s "normal" cars back in the modern games. The 323 variants, Mondeo, Punto, Prelude, Accords, Pulsars, Primeras, etc etc. Those were cars you would see everywhere growing up in the UK at the time and the fact you could rag them about in a game just delivers this sense of realism you don't get with all the modern vision cars.
the Venturi cars must've been so rare that PD only got 1 chance to capture them.
And lister😊
@@francescoiuliano5690Vector and Panoz too.
@@francescoiuliano5690 lister continue until 6 (?)
@@muhammadrizkisatria5059 yes but it's rare
@@muhammadrizkisatria5059yes, but they forgot about the road car, keeping the race car (which used to be the racing modification) from gt3 onwards (with an incorrect weight)
Gran Turismo 2 definitely feels like the Wild West of niche cars
As a huge BMW nerd (and E39 5-series owner), its really a shame that the E36,39,38, & 31 never returned at all even in M spec configuration. And although I'm sure you've noticed the other comments but the E60 M5 brought the badge to the series in GT4
The 1999 Clio Sport V6 24V on Gran Turismo 2 looked gorgeous.
Well said, the 750i, 850, M5 1990's all missing it's a shame !
It’s good to see the community trying to place some cut cars and these forgotten cars in GT2+ and A-Spec Edition. I would like to see more of these behind the curtain cars getting the spotlight since it widens up the nuzlocks we can play. Speaking of some of these cars, some are popping up in the “New Car Suggestion” in A9, so this video might get me some ideas to bring some there for a better future.
GT2 Project A Spec Mod boosted the car count to 760. From 650 in the original version
@dynamicsushy I did saw Dustin play GT4 without using Japanese cars. I’m sure there are others out there who hit a certain amount of credits so there’s lots of opportunities to make.
Always felt like GT 3 felt like a next gen GT 1 successor, where as GT 4 felt like the true successor to GT 2, for various reasons including and beyond the large car list 2 and 4 had for their eras
Always seemed like 1, 3 and 5 were them getting to grips with the new graphics of the day, where 2, 4 and 6 were where they could go full send
This is, in my opinion, what makes GT2 one of the few truly realistic in the series: you can go into a dealership and... Have access to practically the entire production of the time and more, as in some cases. So many cars that some, like the Daiatsu van, I think, ironically featured in later titles, aren't even cars.
The same goes to Vector and Mini Cooper cars.
@@purwantiallan5089 how it's named?? Daiatsu midjet II??? I think that jet part is too much poor😂🤣😂🤣
Still my favourite car list of all time, love the amount of normal cars that you could play about with
And also 1999 Super GT300 cars like WedsSport Celica, BP APEX KRAFT TRUENO, MOMO CORSE APEX MR2, and Porsche GT3R STP TAISAN GT300 and Renault Sifo Spider.
It is insanely varied, there's a lot of different types of car to enjoy
Underrated masterpiece, pressed between the newness revolution of the 1st, and the fraudness of wonderful visual esthetic of the 3rd.
I wish 1999 New Beetle GT from GT2 returns in Gran Turismo 7...
I am absolutely at a loss as to why GT2 is the only GT game to feature a first-gen RX7. Like, how do you ignore such a landmark car for so long? Especially as a Japanese developer?
Great job on the video, Matt!
The Jaguar XJR 15 is featured in Forza Horizon 5, but never in any GT games since GT2 - Well, there are a few more of the road cars in the video that are featured in the Forza franchise.
Also, the Golf was not a "VS" model. Instead, it was the VR5 (also written as V5) - This engine came from an era when VW was very creative in their designs.
The VR5 engine never became a success, compared to the much more known VR6, or the standard inline-4 1.8 Turbo 20V engine.
Another curious thing is that the Golf MK.2 was never featured, despite being a very popular model, even in the late 90's on the used car market. And being a VW, the Golf came in so many configurations, but the most popular ones at the time were the 1.8 and 1.6 Diesel variants, as well as the Syncro 4WD versions. Not forgetting the legendary GTI models either, with the 1.8 8V and 1.8 16V, as well as the G60 variant. - From a performance model standpoint, I am really curious to why the Golf G60 and the Polo G40 was never featured, or even the G60 Syncro Limited, which was the fastest production Golf at the time, before the R32 came along.
Also curious to why the Passat has never been featured, despite being hugely popular in Europe. Most notably the 1.8 Turbo, and 1.9 TDI variants, or looking back to the 1980's with the MK.2 Passat Syncro 2.2 5E - It used a naturally aspirated variant of the legendary 5-cylinder engine, which hailed from the Audi Quattro. The Passat has been part of the european street-car scene for a long time, alongside the Golf and the well-known Audi models from that era.
Well said, what about the scirroco 1 and 2nd generation or the corrado G60 never available, yes why there's golf mk1, 3,4,5,6 but no mk2 ,any passat or even the phaeton ?? Like Polyphony ignore european taste...
This is just making me appreciate even more the nutso car roster GT2 had. Huge leap from GT1, and a lot of deep and weird pulls like the aforementioned Espace F1, the GT90, and a whole host of others.
Amazing work here, Matt!
7:15 obviously not official, but GT2 Plus has a restored E36 323i Coupé. It's a pretty useful prize car.
I'm still gutted 25 years later that none of the Super Tourers got carried over, especially the '98 P11 Primera. Would've been awesome to have them as fully licensed racing models in GT4.
Maybe the license was a problem... Why in GT3 we haven't got many touring cars
@@KaterinUA5 I'm pretty sure Codemasters held the ToCA/BTCC license up until Motorsport Games got their grubby mits on it, which is why the '98/'99 Super Tourers were racing mods only instead of official race cars. GT3 has a fair few touring cars though, most of them are JGTC cars with 3 DTM cars (the Opel Calibra, Astra and Mercedes CLK) and a V8 Supercar (the AU Falcon).
Honda's being put "in the bin" and "chopped".
I got those references!
*Plays intercooler like a harp*
@@Cookiemaster98_98i remember also that HSV-010 in GT5 sounds like V8 engines of F1 car.
I love these long Videos about Gran Turismo
It's impressive how gargantuan Gran Turismo 2's car list was for a game at the time. It makes sense why they drastically reduced the car list for Gran Turismo 3 given the major graphical overhault, but I wonder if we would have had less restrictive and repetitive events if there were more cars to race with. For example, all the kei cars that weren't included meant that the Lightweight K-Cup event in GT3's Beginner League could only be entered by three cars (only two of which were available to the player). Fortunately, both the Suzuki Alto Works and Daihatsu Cuore could be won from other beginner events instead of having to buy them.
One of the reasons why GT2 is one of the best GT titles!
So many cars and even tracks never came back afterwards…
More than allowing these car to return they should have fixed the inaccurate specs of cars that appeared in later games. The glaring examples are Panoz Esperante GTR-1 weight and chassis errors.(too heavy and the wheelbase, width and chassis of a road car) Overweight XJ220 and Lister cars being severely overweight in all titles the appeared in. Fix the Peugeot 905 slow shift and nerf the overperforming real life failure 88C-V.
905 LMP1 in GT2 is absolutely OP.
@@purwantiallan5089 You talking about the A Spec mod right? I really want to try that one out! I hope they include the 1990 IMSA GTO RX-7 Race Car. That car was one of the most successful race cars in history and I'm confused as to why it was never implemented in the games. The closest we get is the 83 RX7 fully tuned with racing mod.
@@reinatycoon3644 yah, i havent played it myself but A spec mod fixes some of those inaccurate performace figures like the GT500 cars having over 600 to 700 HP was a mistake, and one I would love to learn the origins of. Like what did they think the 500 in GT500 meant at the time? I ended up assuming that perhaps they were unrestricted HP figures, but who knows. It was the same with the GT300 cars in GT2 instead of within 300hp they were more like within 400hp.
You could add one more car on this list from a livery standpoint is the '99 Toyota GT-One for its livery is from the Fuji 1000KM race that year. From GT3 onwards, it was made into the #3 Le Mans entry.
Is the 1999 Toyota GTONE livery standpoint also in TEST DRIVE LE MANS?
Good idea!
Im mad that 25GT Turbo never returned in other installments. Would be nice to see more Non-GTR Skylines.
and neither X Chassis Toyota Triplet Sedans (Cresta, Chaser & Mark II)
they only reappeared as Tuned TOM'S Chaser & NO STOCK version existed
Man, I really did like the look of the Vector and Venturi cars...
1 hour of video, u don’t know how i’m gonna enjoy this
A 1 hour+ video is just what i needed 🙏
7:25 iirc, the M5 first appeared in GT4 Prologue with the E60 generation as a concept car.
The kind of video you didn't know you needed in your life until you watch it
It's 3:38 in the morning and I can't sleep so I'm just gonna watch this instead 😂
Getting rid of lower trim levels and differenr bodystyles is the biggest shame. Aswell as GT300 jgtc cars. Cultus Pikes peak too.
P.S. I made it this far
Honestly, it's understandable why they got rid of lower trim level cars, or just older models. Most of them would be unnecessary.
33:54 Galants missing is a disaster...
Congrats on the sponsor dude, keep it up!
Thank you!
The Tom's T111 deserved to not only be in later GT games but more in general. One of the most stunning cars of it's era and it goes entirely under the radar to this day
I watched the whole thing 🙌 I played GT2 alot in my childhood this was a much watch for me 👍
Great video, as a huge car nerd, I have always loved the variety of the GT games, all the Kei cars, sports cars etc etc, I need to try find a way of setting up my old consoles again.
Two things I love about this game. The variety of base cars (my first real life car was an Audi A3 1997) and also the amount of wagons. As far as I remember, there is not only 1 wagon included on GT7...
Bummer they never added back the '95 Toyota Corolla Levin BZ-G after GT2 as it is my family's car that we owned ever since it came out in GT1 😔
Thanks to Matt, I am now sticking to GT2 for another (A-Spec) cycle! No longer pursuing PS2 emulation now, even though my machine is more than ready...!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane Matt as always - what surprises me looking back is the sheer range of what are (on the face of it) mundane cars. But that's why I loved GT in the first place - for instance my uncle's Accord Estate (sorry Wagon) was in GT1 and 2 and I loved driving it around in full Castrol livery. Possibly very sad, but I couldn't care less
I definitely stayed for the entire video!! There were alot of interesting cars that would have been cool to drive in newer games!!
I love the variety in models GT2 had say you wanted to enter the 80s sportscar cup and want to use an R32 Skyline; you're not just locked to having the top of the line 1994 v-spec ii option; you can use the 1989 version to participate in aaid event. Btw, I made it to the end of the video (over the span of a couple days lol). Great work Matt👍🏾
Gran Turismo 2 forever the best GT game ever made!! (along with GT1 and GT4 of course) but GT2 forever the best game of the series!
Everything on the game feels so magic and total nostalgia, all the cars on the game and lot of cars are only available on GT2 and never returned on the next GT games. For just 1 car example that I love so much and it's only on GT2 the totally amazing, wonderful, perfect and legendary STP Taisan Dodge Viper GT😻
Polyphony Digital making a full remake/remade of GT2, with everything from the classic 1999 game, including beta stuff all restored and included on the game, some cars from GT1 returning on GT2 too... the best GT game ever!!! and maybe addicting some more cars from the era just like the amazing mod the A-Spec for the game, also Polyphony Digital should be totally proud of the community in still making the GT2 all alive and running and more complete.
Dont forget GT5 also.
Nice man, good stuff with the sponsorship! Going up in the world!
Thanks!
1 hour long GT videos. Gotta love it
As someone who started playing GT in 1997, this is a gem. As usual, great video!🙂
Thank you!
Loved the Venturi Altlantique
ok ok the rally cars from arcade mode are actually just upgraded versions of stock models
hope this explains why they got cut
This is why i loved GT1 & GT2. Everyday cars are so satisfying to drive ❤ Fun fact, my first car was an Intrepid ES like the one here
I LOVE FINISHING CLASH🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
14:07 airshow in the background or something? lol
I love this game so much. Great times were had 😊, good man, Matt thanks for the memories brother 👍 I love the channel man your GT content is always top-notch stuff 👌 keep up the great work much respect 🙏 😊
With a video this long, I wish we could've collab'd and you used my Gran Turismo 2 music cover audio for the background music!!
Love your work davie💯🔥🔥
Cant spell goat without gran turismo. I love gt2 as its the game my dad played when I was a kid. He'd trash me at the races every time. I dont know what it is but the 2nd one is my fave. These unique cars definitely add to that!
There are so many cars i miss seeing again. Lister storm road version and race version would've been appreciated if they made a return. I could make an endless list but ever since the first Gran turismo i always loved comparing the lap times between cars. If there's One thing that i appreciated GT 7 in having, it was the choice to use cars from the garage to race against.
With their inconsistent appearances, you could say that those Daihatsu's really MOVED quite often in the Gran Turismo Series...
Also: Last I checked, the GT90 was not in the greatest shape as it appears to have not been well maintained so its appearance in ANY game now would need some serious attention.
As for the 97 Nissan R390 GT1 Road car, big problem with that: The 97 and 98 model are exact same car. In yet another hilarious example of having a laugh with the GT1 regs, Nissan simply slapped a new bumper on the 97 car and rebadged it a 98 model.
…a new MattJ155 vid? That’s a Happy Friday, indeed.
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Gt 2 is my favorite just because of the cars it has. Never have we gotten so many variations of Hondas. All the 4 doors
Pretty fun video!
Also for the RE Amemiya GT300 RX-7, it was simply updated to the 2004 tubeframe chassis version in GT4, and would in GT5 even get a premium version in form of the 2006 car that took the GT300 title that year.
One thing that I feel like it's a bit of a missed opportunity for GT7, it's how they didn't made tune parts from these old tuned cars as modifications for equivalents in GT7. I'd love to get an RX-7 Spirit R for example and give it the GT-Concept aero kit!
GT2 was my first racing sim and the alfa 145 QV is now my car in reallife. I wish for years now it comes back in any racing game. Last one was 2004 kaido racer and i still did play it a couple of months ago. 😂
If I had to wager a guess, the 90's model Mitsubishi Galants were probably dropped in favor of the then newer Mitsubishi Lancers. The reason why I believe this is because I owned a base model 2002 Mitsubishi Lancer and the Haynes Repair Manual for it which detailed that the 1996-2003 Mitsubishi Lancers and Galants were the exact same car with different body moldings and trim options featuring almost exactly the same inner workings and engines. It's the same deal with a lot of Accura Integras, Honda Civics, and Honda Accord as well as they tend to be built off the same platforms with a lot of shared components but different trims and options.
Damn, I feel like with many inclusions of cars in GT2, we also lost a lot of cars mentioned going into the sequel(s), although some were updated to either newer or older models. That, along with the fact that the game gave more variants to some models which is cool and adds to the realism factor as well.
Thanks, Matt, you're great as always
The only issue I was having while watching this video is absence of one of my favourite cars from GT1 and GT2 - Dodge Concept Car (Dodge Copperhead in real life).
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought, that after Gran Turismo 2 Polyphony never introduced this car again (which LM Edition as sure kicked ass and could easily beat not only GT500 championship, but World Championship as well). If they did, please specify, where exactly, so I could enjoy a bit more :)
That's definitely one I considered adding in because it changed a lot between GT1 and GT2. Ultimately I left it out because this video solely focuses on cars that only appeared on GT2 and no other games in the series.
Anyway, I'm glad you liked the video. :)
Fun fact: the Sunny does appear in Forza Horizon 5, but under its appropriate localized name, the Nissan Tsuru. It was the most requested car in the Forza community.
Also, The Road Runner would mostly be superceded by the Superbird, which in real life has a Road Runner trim available, complete with the iconic car horn. GT4 simply went with the standard Superbird instead of the Road Runner trim for the same reason the Road Runner was renamed in GT2.
Lastly, the 1997 Corolla Rally Car is horribly slow in GT2, and the 1998 version is faster. Fast enough to stay competitive.
Great list so far. Its missing the Honda Civic Ferio EG9 from 1994 however
will binge watch this at dinner tomorrow !
great video and I really hope we see the BMW 8 series (E31) and 7 series (E38) return one day :)
On the Re Amemiya part, their RX-7's succeeded more directly by the 2004 and 2006 versions of their race car.
The 2006 RE AMEMIYA RX7 (Ren Hazuki's car in GT5) looks almost identical to 2004 version.
@@purwantiallan5089 - let's set aside the anime bits for now, please.
Congrats on the sponsor!
Isn't the 528i the L6 version? Which means 190 hrsprs, not 142.
Wasn't the Terios always a SUV? This GT2 gen was sold in my country in 90's.
It's not hard to get why the GT2 is still the best: it focused on daily cars, our cars, that we use or see in use, or cars our parents had, which gave and still give a different magic in the entire game.
No one will ever reproduce what GT2 done.
add to that
some viper also never returned
1. all of viper rt/10 (both standard and racing,tho it appeared before on first series. but it never returned after GT2,could be the console exclusive)
2. the racing version of viper oreca (white with blue stripe),canaska southwind (white with green stripe),chamberlain engineering (blue with white stripe),also never returned after 2. making it PS1 exclusive
I played both GT1 and 2 on my ps1, and really all those cars featured in your video missed me ❤. Especially the european brand with small, light, fun hatches and of course 4-doors and luxuous berlina's, they were so popular at their time. We know that choices needed to be made but cutting off and threw to the junkyard now classics cars from the early 90's and replacing them by hundred copy-paste skylines or dozens of miata's and lancers and imprezas and nsx (forcing us japanese cars to use) but hey, I tried one of each and don't need to collect them all ! GT5-6 gained quantity but loosed quality/diversification and mention that no dlc were available...
Cars I deeply miss that are in this video:
Alfa 155 (yes, it's now in FH5, but it's a V6 AWD model, close, but not the same)
Alfa 166. It always came across to me as a more classy 156
BMW 740i. I love a V8 E38
'97 Camaro. These earlier ones look so much better than the facelift
Chrysler Phaeton. It's the law to include it
Both HKS drag cars
Honda Accord wagon. I just like wagons
Honda Civic Ferio. And I like sedan Civics
Jaguar XJR. Much nicer to look at than the S-Type
Lexus SC400. Everyone loves the SC300, but I want the V8
Mazda RX-7 FB. I just really love the wedge design of the early ones
Mitsubishi Legnum. I already stated that I like wagons
Mitsubishi Mirage coupe, or as we call it over here, the Lancer coupe
Mitsubishi Pajero Mini. These were fun
Nissan March Super Turbo. Gotta love a twin charged car
Nissan Primera wagon. Blah blah wagon
Nissan R390 Road Car. See Toyota GT One for reasoning
Literally any 4 door Nissan Skyline
R34 Nissan Skyline 25GT. Because it's the R34 that you ACTUALLY see from time to time driving on the road
Nissan Stagea. You can probably guess why
Nissan 300ZX-GTS. C'mon, it just looks cool
1967 Plymouth GTX. This one stings the most, despite the fact the gearing was weird in GT2 (it was a 4 speed without 3rd basically). Also, that 'Cuda isn't a 1970, those taillights are from the later 72-74 or so model years. Also also, they could've gone around the Road Runner naming by just picking that year's GTX instead
Renault Espace F1. Who doesn't want it to return?
Subaru Vivio, possibly my favourite of the Kei cars, especially in supercharged form
Toyota Caldina. Yes, there's the Caldina ED in GT4, but the earlier Caldinas look a lot nicer
Toyota Celica SS-II Mechanical Sports Version, simply because LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE Celica of that generation where I live had that exact bodykit. I have never in person seen one without that. Bonnet spoilers and all
NOT listed, but Toyota GT One Road Car. I'd love to see both that and the R390 Road Car appear in the same game again, and I only ever see Gran Turismo doing the GT One, despite the fact Forza has included the R390
1982 Toyota Starlet. C'mon, is a little hatchback with rear wheel drive
Vector W8. It's awful, but you gotta love it
These cars are forever in our hearts: RE AMEMIYA MATSUKIYO RX7 GT300, MAZDA 767B, Peugeot 905 LMP1, STP TAISAN PORSCHE 911 GT3R, Cultus PPV, Espace F1, etc...😢
The Puma being made today is a 1.0 Turbo crossover, a far cry from the original sporty Coupe, hence it's abscence in GT.
I just watched everything from beginning to the end!!! 😃 That was fun to watch!
One question...err questions...did what about the TRD 3000GT, The Dodge copperhead concept, and maybe I missed the '67 stingray, and what about the NSX GT2 the one that participated in Lemans? As well as the GTR LM... again I may have missed these
Your channel is one of my comfort channels 😅😊
Thank you!
In GT4 all the Galants were replaced by Legnum VR-4, wich is Galant combi
Hey Matt! I know you mentioned Legnum VR-4 being in GT4, but I feel like since we have this, saying that 90s Galants were gone is a stretch - in fact, in some markets, Legnum was marketed just as Galant wagon :D
And I feel like Polyphony felt it'd be a bit redundant to have Galant sedan and Galant wagon/Legnum for some reason.
For the record ive watched all of the video. Ive gotta pay nothing but respect for the amount of effort and time youve put into this.
Its mad, how much GT2 spoilt us with cars.. we got so so much.
You really dont know what you got, until its gone.
This was why so many fans were angry at GT7 they wanted something similar to GT2 and GT4.
Why the creators never got heed or the hint of how good GT2 and GT4 was, with the roster of cars.. is beyond me and anyone.
But hey, its money, greed and microtransactions nowadays. 🤷🏾♂️
Can you please do (even if is a large video or by parts)
A video of every and each car ever in all GT games, Pre-Buying, DLC, exclusives and so on
Please!!! 🙏 Every car and version that has ever been on GT till current GT7
Including GT Concept, Prologue, PSP, etc
Gran Turismo Prepare to Cry edition
In GT4 the 99 323 Sport 20 was replaced by 03 Familia Sport 20
Not having Lamborghini, Ferrari and Porsche (EA Copyright) in Gran Turismo was intentional. With this, JDM were able to shine in the game.
Not seeing the Stratus and Intrepid return was a travesty.
Is it just me, or your mic is acting up. Anyway, really loved the video.
Thanks! To me, the mic sounded OK. Always good to hear feedback though. :) Could you elaborate on how it sounds for you?
@@MattJ155 i remember your older videos your mic quality was superb, maybe you're using a different mic, or its probably on my end. Ill try a diff device. A lot of high, nasal-y tones, like if the audio had a old gramophone effect added to it, unless that's exactly what you did. It sounds like there is no base in your voice, and its very nasal-y.
Yeah the audio isn’t right for me on this one either. Sounds like you’re just recording on an inbuilt laptop mic or something. Your latest vid is fine
Hell yeah get that bag
The Ford GT90 has a similar engine aspect closer to the Veyron 16.4
GT90 has a quad turbocharger
Also The Lexus GS300 Vertex Edition appeared in the later series
57:17 Present!
Another banger by Matt! I love your content.
Wake up babe new gt lore just dropped
still a bit sore about 25GT-Turbo being cut
i do like the rear wheel drive skylines
Allow me to correct you in some cars: It's Golf VS, ut's V5, a 5 cilinder engine. The Stagea is pronounced "Stage(ah)". And the Zanaví get a focus on the "ví" since there's a accent.
Apart from that, the Beetle GT became the RSi, no?
This is the very reason GT2 will be my favourite GT. There's so many niche and oddball cars you can drive that you just can't find in other games , even future GT games.
i prefer GT2 than GT4 too
Galant super vr4 such a good car honestly but its heavy (most galants are heavy due its made for mid class luxury instead of performance). Not much racing history but good to bring some variants for jdm legend vibes. And galant vr4 itself is still underrated 90s jdm out there
4:06 The car i never bought in this game lol
Legacy mk2 sedan didnt appeared again too
The Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg R hatchback didn't return either after GT2, being replaced by the ZR hatchback.
I wish they reused the mazda protege5/323f wagon for gt4! Thats what i drive, and its one of the most fun of its kind to drive. My own mother says its the most enjoyable car she's driven
You missed the Mazdaspeed Rx7 A-spec (initial d) and Mirage Cyborg R.. 😅
Can you do the same with GT3? and maybe all of the other GT games?
IMO stil the best GT. Car list is the masterpiece :)