Lamborghini Huracán Performante record at the Nürburgring
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- On 5 October 2016, the Huracán Performante set a new production car lap record of 6:52:01 min on the Nürburgring Nordschleife with Lamborghini test driver Marco Mapelli. Discover the Huracán Performante: performante.lamborghini
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❤👍😍💕✌👌 :D👊
Already seen the car on private viewing, but still exciting!
I'll be in Geneva. Would love to come by to interview someone. I will be there on the press days. Please let me know.
Lamborghini 7th March is my birthday!!!
How you took a chance by speeding up a video to promote an unveiling of a non-consumer vehicle after VAG's recent fraud is beyond me, Lamborghini. Your German owners won't be happy.
No hybrid systems, no turbos just a N/A V10 ... Congrats Lamborghini , can't wait to see this beauty at Geneva !
insane.. this is on road legal tyres?
yes road legal Pirelli Trofeo R tyres
amazing, we'll see what aston and Glickenhaus SCG003s can do
How do you know that ? From the noise look more like slicks tyres ...
Excatly, it just doesnt squeal anywhere... even the line isnt perfect... only thing that actually points against slicks is that they would be louder on the straights... very strange though
Lamborghini showed how it is done. Lamborghini is a legend
#Lamborghini
That name alone sounds legendary!
Debatable, some say Lamborghini cheated.
coors TV there is a video up that makes sense from someone who lives lives and works on the ring.. His video was very logical
look at the Speedometer on 4:35
That's a typical GPS based speedometer glitch. Nothing suspicious.
Lamborghini has released telemetry for this lap and race logic has confirmed it. Deal with it haters. As for the speed jump, gps signal lag is the culprit. Good job Lamborghini!!
teenbbdude ep9 electric supercar got it at 6:45, 7 secs faster
Peter Robann Sobrepeña thatss only the ELECTRIC CAR record. But this right here is the Gasoline Car record lap
What about the roll cage, i want it in the production car
Peter Robann Sobrepeña
No one considers it a production car when they only made like 6 of the damn things
Jim You can still get a spec of the Performante to this day-_-
the haters are getting eaten up inside! love it!
Oh hi kevin
Kevin should take his performante to the nurburgring and do a tumble wumble
What
EYYYYYYY LAMBORGHIINIIIIIII!!!!!
FARGHINIIII EEYYYYYY
So what's going ova heeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
I'ts a lambo, pop pops are never weak!
I'm sure the pop pop pops are strong as fuck.
Jon Ho Pops and crackles don't make the car go any faster.
YES. YES. YES!!!! This is just AMAZING. This is an eternity leap in the Ring record!!! KUDOS Lamborghini! Well done!
DoctaM3 waiting for that little bitch Salomondrin ;) ;) Excellent work Lamborghini
DoctaM3 maaa man docta.
DoctaM3 are you traiding in red storm for a performante?
I bet he will order one, if not already.
sup? sup?
Well, one thing is for sure. These ring lap videos keep getting shorter.
🤣
Every time I see one of these on pictures I get goosebumps. I absolutely love this car which is why it's one of my life goals to own this car!
We both will get this car one day man
A proof that you can accomplish such an incredible feat without forced induction and hybrid bullshit.
But what about fuel economy?
Gohan bruh, go buy a BMW i3 or somethinh
Lol I own a prius
Agreed. Back to basics!
The "bullshit" you talk about is amazing and in all likelihood the future. You people are really binary with these things, you have to love one and hate the other. Wasn't the last hypercar crop proof enough that amazing stuff can be done with hybrids?
Edit: to be clear I have absolutely no issue with NA engines. I love them, in fact.
I filmed it that day on the Nordschleife! No words for this car! What a beast 😎
tormen76 or beacause the car is very light for there's no heavy hybrid system. keep in mind that the 918 is by far the heaviest of the big three, but manages to keep up because of its clever 4wd system (among other things). this lambo is a lot lighter than the 918 yet it still has 4wd. On the other hand, lamborghini is part of audi which is owned by VW, just like porsche. I think we can conclude VW dominates the ring
tormen76 it uses P Zero Corsas.
no. it uses P Zero Trofeo R. They are barely street legal
There is no thing called "barely street leal" .
They are streetlegal (DOTapproved. simple.
Pirelli Trofeo R, Toyot R888 and any other preformance tire is street legal and you can fit them in any car you want.
THeporsche 918 used Michelin Pilot sport cup that are basically the Pirelli trofeo rivals.
Thats a poor excuse.
tormen76 dude, just look at my just uploaded video. they are faster then the 918!
guys, get over it, the laptime is real. this thing is SUPERGLUED to the ground by the ALA system.
Porsche GT2 RS has 700hp and weighs 1470kg. The driver in the Porsche has a more aggresive driving style. Lambo stats 640Hp and weighs 1376kg and what appears to be a cruzy lap by the lambo driver. Ignorant people make ignorant comments haha.....
long john If you actually knew something about driving in tracks you'd see that the lap done by the Lamborghini driver is pretty good. The GT2RS has simply better aerodynamics.
praise ALA
I have the same Lambo and he was holding off down the pit straight, obviously didn’t want to win by to big of margin knowing the svj was coming. Thers plenty of time to be had still 😈
@@longjohn4476 arrogant people making arrogant comments haha.....
Whats what I want in the future gentlemen. *Pure sound of normally aspirated horses,* no puny hybrid stupefaction. And it performs! Well done Lamborghini, well done.
on the verge of depreciation the Porsche 918, McLaren p1 and laferrari.
Nah they won't.
OMGBlackst4r the fucking sv is going down it's the track focus aventador and it's slower than the track focus baby lambo (huracan)
laferrari definitely won't out of the 3
The big Lambos always need a V12 drivetrain. Which is in general available with a awd drivetrain. So in terms of performance it suffers from that. To big, to heavy - it will never be a track car (even with all the carbon fibre). Its a street sportscar with the ability to go a few hot laps. It was never made with race performance in mind.
Whitesox95 around the Nurburgring Porsche was the only brand to announce the time with the 918
It beat the frickin 918.....
by 5 whole seconds....
richzilla08 never expected it from the Gallardo predecessor tbh
Tyler Dh
If Lamborghini was ever going to beat the 918 Spyder Weissach Package, I thought it would be either the Veneno or Sesto Elemento doing it.
Jonathan Nzita exactly, but this is way more satisfying considering the size and mass productability(?) of the car
Both of these cars are for collectors and they are dated. This hurracan is a track car.
This is 100% legit. Go Lamborghini! The fastest car in da world!
20 liters of fuel in 7 minutes :D
No. This took much less than that. The fuel tank is 80 liters and the run consumed about 15%. Therefore, around 12 liters.
Ferrari has the Superfast and the FXXK. This should be called the Huracan Superfxxkingfast.
What a car! Hands down.
That is the most terrifyingly awesome camera angle ever, bravo!
Beating the fastest time by 5 full seconds? That's an eternity in Car world.
And a 918 for that matter? Seems legit.
Oh they did it.
Gt2rs holds record now lol
@@yaniqueapgar9220 One is naturally aspirated the other is a twin turbo lol , strap a twin turbo on that v10 and see what happens .
@@furiousscotsman2916 that doesn’t mean it’s gonna be faster. The gt2rs only has 60 more hp but weights little over 200lbs more lol dynamics of the car almost matter more than power especially on the ring
@@yaniqueapgar9220 it's got a performance kit, this one is stock
That's an awesome result for a naturally aspirated V10. Now it's our turn to put one through its paces...! Stay tuned
Supercar Advocates So I assume you have one on order Lee? :P
Impressive!
Now waiting for the GT2 RS
Dmitry L it wont be anywhere near as fast as this
Fernando Maes lets see
Snafu negative. look how far behind the gt2 rs record is compared to this lambo. no way in hell will it make that huge of an improvement.
What time did the old Gallardo Superleggera do? If Lamborghini can make that jump then it's not impossible for Porsche to surpass the Performante with the new GT2 RS
ZappoTan The new GT2 rs us going to have TT 700 hp, PDK. , It's definitely going to beat it,
Reminds me my shooting with Lamborghini Aventador S. This beast is so amazing. Thank you Lamborghini for such great cars.
Have you any actual experience with the Perf? Trust me, those who say something is not right, are well, right.
@@AB-80X Yes I have now experience with Performante. Great car with this mighty V10 engine. th-cam.com/video/6McXTQQdiWQ/w-d-xo.html
this was astounding..love lamborghini...awesome job on this
I like how it used nearly a quarter tank!
I'm gonna need you guys to get back there and go faster now. Thanks in advance.
Cry hater
4:37 speedometer jumps from 130 to 190 in less than a second
looks too damn fake
Must be a bump in the road, wheelspin or a glitch in the telemtry, but yeah its kinda funny
He continued accelerating as the speedometer was going down, it must’ve been an error in editing.
As impressive as the time around the Ring is in this car, I find the fact the steering in the hands of the driver is so relaxed an even more convincing element! The stability of this car must be just shy of amazing! Bare in mind the Ring is very, very bumpy... Incredible!
FINALLY A LAMBORGHINI THAT CAN BRAKE SOME RECORDS !! not just for showing off
The Aventador SV did it in 6:59, so both of their cars are special, to have your two models under 7 mins on The Ring is a special accomplishment.
skywalk3x The SV is not that big thing actualy , on motor trend it went slower than the actual huracan ... so the Performante should be the real deal with records to Lamborghini and i hope so
aimen banga oh come on they have different driver u know?
Carl Clinton Catulpos yes i know , but the same driver for all cars on motor trend
Check their video clearly johnny talks about the tyres on the sv ...and moreover aventador sv is a lot heavier...
Amazing! Thank you Lamborghini for bringing the record back to Italia
Forza Lamborghini and Marco Mapelli. Had been waiting for this since long. Waiting for my turn now at Imola to experience this amazing piece of machinery and publications from around the world to beat lap records of every track that exists in this world.
Oh Lamborghini how they mocked you when they said you couldn't be on the same level as Porsche McLaren and Ferrari
STR TV and "they" are right!
We still do. Now we mock because they put up a fake claim and still make cars that are not for drivers.
Lamborghini Meeting a few years ago:
"Sir the Porsche 918 Spyder just set a Ring lap record."
"Oh really? That's great. They own us so whatever."
"But sir viva l'Italia! sounds better than für Deutschland!"
"Don't worry, Pagani Huayra or LaFerrari will destroy that record, besides we don't have a flagship, the Aventador isn't fast enough."
*Ferrari doesn't release LaFerrari time. Pagani late to release the BC*
"WE WILL MAKE IT FAST ENOUGH."
*Enter the Aventador SV*
*2 seconds off the 918's time to not upset Porsche*.
"Sir I we must do more for Italia. Bologna is weeping."
"I know Roberto. Slowly slowly so Porsche doesn't pull the plug (pun intended)."
*2 years pass*
*Huracan Performante destroys record*
"VIVA L'ITALIA we did it sir... Sir? What is the driver pulling behind him?"
"It's just his balls of Italian steel"
Nice job stealing off Reddit
VirusTornado Too bad the aventador lap time was never official :)
It's posted from my account on Reddit you idiot. Go check I'll wait.
No actually. Lamborghini just released the telemetry data. The video might have weird inconsistencies, but the lap is legit.
Yeah that's the problem.
Excellente performance.franchement bravo.u are crazy man!!!
What a run! That is some good driving, beautiful car and well done Lamborghini.
Just pure power, this is awesome! The driver was incredibly skilled as well!
I'm in legitimate shock by the lap time. What the....
WAIT till you see how its done!
richzilla08 this video footage has been edited and sped up. THIS ISN'T RAW FOOTAGE. Lamborghini is lying to us all
i argee its fake
watch Mischa Charoudins Channel to see his opinion on it. Something NEEDS to be wrong, he found multiple errors (speed jumps from 130 to 190 in 1 frame, lower start and end speed at the long straight then the 918 while somehow still being faster by 0.6s over the length 244-290 faster then 255-292 hows that supposed to work). There is something fake in it, most likely sped up at the straight and best parts cut together to make it look nice.
Rubeus Hagrid if you're gonna say that you better have proof...
Awesome driving! Specially, when you had the sun in front of you, Marco. Respect. This Lambo is a total driver´s car, really fast, and with no e-drive... :)
Supremely impressive driving skills. And a Vmax of 304kph? That thing's got some oats!
Just look how smooth it take those corners, no side slips, no loss of grip. That suspension and traction control is perfect.
Looks like the understeer is all gone and now Lamborghini is the lone lion at the top of the hill... Congrats to you Lamborghini .....👍
They're so badass that they became the first bull at the top of the hill
6:26 look mam!! no hands :D
He probably has his other hand on the steering wheel
Outstanding.
Raging Bull.
Nono, that's "Faking bull"...
@@AB-80X you're so stupid, it was confirmed a long time ago that the lap time is real.
Yes! Good job Lamborghini!
That sound😍😍
probably my favorite sounding engine! that v10 is sweet
Bravo Lamborghini, nice driving Marco Mapelli!
So Hawt
WE HAWT
omg techsouece!!!
Sorry Ed.But Porsche will always beat Lambo. 6:47 for GT2 RS . CYA :D
Boi, What!? Didn't knew you were here
What? You love cars as well?
Congrats Lamborghini! Showing everyone how it's done!
Yeah! Speed up the video, and boom! "new ring record"
Beautiful!
Felicitaciones
That was crazy impressive. It took corners with such ease. You hardly ever heard the tires slip. It looked like it was on rails.
Dat turn in though. Amazing agility!
The start of this video = Instant Goosebumps!
Assetto Corsa released the Performante on Dec 20th, and I finally got a chance to boot it round the ring. Gotta say, Marco Mapelli has extraordinary talent. I've been sim racing for 10+ years and can lap with the best of them, even so, I only managed a 6:56 after a few warm up laps, and this was done with reckless regard for my own virtual life and what I thought was a flawless lap. Great job Lamborghini and Marco!
assetto corsa lap 20,8 km, lap in video is 20,6 km
All the Porsche fanboys saying this is fake and the 918 is faster LOL... Video looks legit to me. Keep in mind that the video in the 918 is inside the cabin. In this video, the camera was placed by the front bumper, which gives the impression of faster movement than if placed higher...
They mad, cause their piece of shite , 1.000.000 € whale was beaten by a car with less than 650 hp lmfao
Miguel's Garage gt2 rs just set a new record 6:48, goodbye Lamborghinipanini
Miguel's Garage 6:47.25 hahah
Well, you were asking for a faster porsche ??? gt2 rs just did a new lap record.
now what biatch
Wow!!! Congrats to Lamborghini. Well done. And what a driver this guy is. Kudos to him as well. He was very focused.
Absolutely superb!!!!!!
Congrats Lambo, you owned it!
Roddy Yang why is fake?
copy paste maniac.
and you know those tires are coming with the customer cars, as stated today by Lambo?
tire compound does not go head to head with speed when it comes to this track.
Compare fuel tank between 0:25 and 7:00
The Lambo DEVOURS almost a QUARTER in 1 lap!!
Beautiful
Beautiful.
Wow, just wow. These are going to sell!! Amazing to see how a 250-300k car from today can beat an almost 900k hypercar from almost 4 years ago.
A lot depends on the driver and the conditions though. So I guess on many tracks the 918 might still be faster. Also some parts of the Nordschleife were rebuilt in the last few years. Amazing time though, congrats! Love the Huracan
shockwave1xD no way it's gonna be 500k atleast
shockwave1xD yet 4 years ago the 918 couldn't beat a car made in 2005 called the Radical SR8.
Lamborbiker I know but there was no way the 918 was going to beat the Radical. The Radical is a full on racecar. And not street legal everywhere.
shockwave1xD well, the Huracan did.
Lamborbiker radical sr8 lm 6:48min street legal everywhere except in USA.
Even if people don't talk about it the radical sr8 lm is still holding the record for a production car since 2009, that's 8 years ago...
Too many dumbs talk about the nurburgring times, pretending like they know well about the track, but the truth is they don't. You should first know what happened to nuburgring recently. The new construction work of nurburgring have made the whole thing different. With the new track, Porsche 911.2 GT3 set the record 12 seconds faster than 991.1 model, only with 25hp difference and minor updates. Also the 991.2 carrera GTS have set the record of 7:23 after the construction work, which is almost 3 seconds faster than 560 hp 991.1 turbo s which was set before the construction work. Now you see the difference of before and after the construction work? Same for the huracan performante period
the track is may be 2 -3 seconde faster max since the 918 did his record .. Not more
The gt3 was probably meant to be an overall track beast, and the gt3 was probably aimed at this track.
@@WynnofThule They are all made by VW (mostly by Porsche) anyway, why are you even discussing this.
I don't care for any other record by Lamborghini, Mercedes or Porsche.
That was the most beautiful, technical, perfectly executed lap of all times.
Car + driver = Nürburgring perfection
Mega geil!!!
Lamborghini mais rápida dá história
😎Bullpower
Normally I don't like the huracan but Don't deny this car is insane
CONGRATS LAMBO
g-damn that was fast!
Mine arrives to Mexico next month.
Bloody marvelous.
I can't wait.
what a run, congrats !
great job Lamborghini nice cars
Like he's glued to that track. So smooth!
5 seconds faster than the 918...OMG, how is this even possible :V
Jesus fucking hell, this is why I love lamborghini!
Sérgio Pinto its not drive .its flying
Ya habla español chico 😂
thats because its fake, they cut the best runs together to a single run. There are Speed-jumps from 130-190 in 1 frame as well as a somehow faster straight then the 918 while the Huracan entered it at 244 and ended at 290 versus the 918 entering at 255 and ending at 292. Apparently the Huracan was 0,6s faster anyways? They cheated and sped it up. Fake bullshit to boost the hype.. watch Mischa Charoudins explanation on it, he has gotten this all proven with timestamps and a comparison video of the 918.
+iMrMalibuZ 918 fanboy detected.
you can clearly see it was a GPS dysplay fault... the car is going full throtle and the speed is going down.
That means the GPSsignal was just not great...
Congrats Lamborghini!
Nice smooth driving, kudos to the guy.
This car even from the comfort of my own home feels extremely fast. I want this Lamborghini.
4:35 why is the speedo going down to 130 km/h an then up to 190km/h?? they must have done something with the original onboard drive video...
Lenni123 Speedometer gets input from GPS not from the Wheels! That possibly explains the interferences...
just a simple glitch
Lenni123 But listen the motor.. Dont change gear so there is a problem with the gps
video of best sectors put together, also who knows what car with roll cage that was
I just uploaded a side by side comparison between the huracan and 918! :)
Awesome perf!
Spectacular!
chupa turbooooo!!!! Lambo is Life
E o melhor... não pegou fogo...kkkkk
FabricioNoronha hehe, isso pq é carro showoff, só pra escutar e olhar em !!
Carro todo depenado e com pneu slick, quero ver a versão que vai ser vendida legalmente fazer isso.
www.flatout.com.br/huracan-performante-e-o-novo-recordista-de-producao-em-nurburgring-nordschleife-mas-algo-parece-estranho/
918 estava modificada também
06:52 that's really fast 😳
I tried it on Forza Motorsports 6 on the same Lamborghini Huracán, upgraded every parts of the car, Engine stuff, Clutch, transmission, suspension, and tuned it myself (0-60 in 2.2s and 228mph top speed) running in Racing tyres and I finished the lap at 07:40+ (if I remember correctly)
CubeCDM yes because forza motorsports 6 can record lap times more accurately than an actual timed course, idiot
forza is a dam arcade game lmfao. Not even close to a sim
Lol i did it at 7:04 wth gallardo in GT5 using only a ps4 joystick
Bow to the Kings!!
I've been a soapbox preaching fan of the Big Bad Bull since my youngest memories. I have even gotten to ride in on several times. It just made my love for the brand stronger. It makes me fill with joy seeing this video. I have always longed for the day, Lamborghini is the fastest, period.
It was always a battle between camps in Italy. The Countach vs. F-40 , Diablo vs. "Testy-Rosa" , and it just kept happening.
This video says more than the average car fan will notice.
This was a record lap. No doubt about it. But it doesn't show truly how fast this car really is.
What someone watching had to pay attention to is percentages. What percent do the cars in other videos stay standing W.O.T. in their laps? Most of the time its generally largest percent W.O.T., then braking, then time off-throttle.
Listen to this v-10 handle this track up. Most of the time I viewed this I was thinking, where did the full throttle roar go? Simply because he was running it so fast yet there was more to go, still! The fact that it is obviously I would say at the most, 4 seconds faster than this video (given conditions, lighting , track temp, race tires, ETC.) is amazing. You don't even hear much abs correcting overzealousness. Or Rev Limiter, or tires squealing because they are being pushed hard. In Fact those tires did the job exceptionally well.
Hail to Pirelli!
This beauty is just so much more monster than people know.
Stay out of the way little pony, there is a stampede coming this way.
(you can use that in your advertising. I don't mind. LOL)
This is so awesome!!!! Bravo lamborghini 👍👍👍👍👍
Nordschleife ❤️I love the
Huracan
AVENATDOR
AVENATDOR sv
Aventador svj.
Centenario
Diablo
Countach
Aventador s
Miura
Gallardo
But where my boy sesto at?
Ferrari f12 ferrari f12 novitec n largo la ferrari aperta ferrari enzo f40 812 superfast f50 y f430 scuderia FERRARI por siempre 🇮🇹
Ma boy veneno?
@@redacteddataexpunged2226 all 7 of them. They're just too limited production and heavy too appeal to me. Yeah it can hit [REDACTED] mph but can it corner?
@@WynnofThule true
Wow! Unbelievable. Well done Lamborghini
amazing video
I remember that lap from Gran Turismo 4 when i was a kid, I performed that lap several times. So nostalgic
Is this Huracan modified from the stock version though? Look at the cockpit view. It has a roll cage. Would the stock production version come with a roll cage?
The 918 did not seem to have a roll cage when it did that lap, from what we can see in Porsche's video.
As a german fan pointed out, a Huracan GT3 was slower than this. This wasn't a production car. Period.
It seems that the footage has been speeded up.
It also had different tires made specially for the car by Pirelli, which supposedly won't be sold with the car, until an independent car tries to set the time I won't believe, sort of like Nissan which fakes their gtr times.
Xavier Capela
The time was set on Trofeo R's,which are now an optional on the car,
they weren't before, they were especially made for this car, sure they might be available now, but that doesn't matter of course. if the data Lambo has shown is legit I'll believe it. I just find it hard to believe that his car is somehow faster than the GT3 version, but oh well.
And Sanji, yes they have, most of their record breaking cars weren't sold to the public, they were lighter, had different tires, roll cage, Porsche bought a brand new GTR a few years back, and the car simply couldn't put down the times that Nissan claimed.
waiting for the kid
GTRRRRR IS BETTTERR AND CHEAPERRRRRRRR
GTRRRRRR IS SLOWERRRRR AND SO UGLIEEEE
Ramstam El Diablo definetly true man. and nissan gtr much more heavyer..this is real world...not granturishmo video game...gtr chief enginner mr.mizuno must learn this
GTR ...even their top version doesn't even come close to this time and when you mod you are wishing striking distance of the price of the Huracan on the GTR.
DoctaM3 exactly! Kids don't understand how much money it takes to make this 1000hp GTR's...
HATE ME Viper ACR
Very impressive car. Congrats lambo.
Son casi perfectos... me encanta esta marca y sus autos... Sin tan sólo fueran un poco más potentes...
First dislike is coming to 918 :))
Now it'd be interesting to see a production 918 time, not the prototype and also the Ring has changed a lot since 2013
Niko B True,The new GT2 rs is going to take the Crown back
Da,Taper I think so as well
dislike because at 4:38 the speedo goes down to 135kmh to 190kmh in less than two seconds wtf. Super sketchy. Thats not even possible. We need a customer to hand the keys to a pro driver and do the lap for real. Also is the real performante coming with a roll cage?The car has no headliner. Is the performante coming out with headliner?
noner come are you serious?? This is a car that can go from 0-100 in 3 seconds yet you can't see how it can go from 135 to 190 (only 55 kmh more) in 2 seconds and this is not from a standing start either. Think about your math before denigrating the fabulous Lamborghini name!
my birthday is at 5th October woow something special happened on my birthday 😆😆😄
Soham Sawant happybirtdayy
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Soham Sawant Yes Lamborghini lied to the world. Feel special now.
Tomas Villamil ik 😢😢😢😢😞😞
But I think 918 can beat this record of 6:52.1 because the 918 record was healed at 2013 n in 2016 the track has been changed for some safety purpose so I think this last time is valid and the 918 can beat this easily
Another amazing record by lamborghini🔥❤
Lamborghini, I subscribed to this channel for your radical cars you made, so beautiful... Well done though. 👍
Interesting, I didn’t know Porsche fans loved Lamborghini videos
HhHHHhHhHmMmMmMm????!!