Having to run heater and rain is a killer for range for sure. I really enjoyed your break down at the end with the time spent for each 10%interval. I had not seen that kind of analysis before and I find it very useful. Thanks for the video Chris.
u most be a scientist sir, I love how you break down the charging so concisely! I am seriously thinking about getting a 2020 I was scared about cold-gate charging, and that it would never charge at a reasonable speed. 47 kwh speed aint so bad. insta subbed, cant wait to see the rest of your channel!
You did this test in May, when the temperature was 14 degrees. Today, July 16 here in Portugal, we have 38 degrees. When I turn off the Ioniq's air conditioning, the autonomy increases between 10 to 20 km. My experience tells me that in hot temperatures, the ioniq air conditioning removes up to 20 km of autonomy. Once again I recorded your video. Thanks Chris for sharing
Thanks for introducing your viewers to "Wesley" (not sure of the spelling). Is he the silent partner in your video production company? Lots of great information on the Ionic. I drove the Kona and found it to be a fun car to drive, although here (Québec, Canada) it is close to $50k, perhaps before government incentives? Good news is that we pay about 10 cents per kilowatt hour for electricity. I might have to wait and buy a used EV as my next car. I'm tired of relying on ICE technology. Thanks for uploading this video. Cheers.
Thanks for the video, great detail. I still don't understand why Hyundai changed its battery voltage to limit the charging. I have a 28 kwh IONIQ and at 90 km/hour I can go for 200 km no problem and can recharge to 94% in about 30 minutes. I was planning to change my 28 kwh to the 38 kwh but the slower charging speed was the deciding factor. I'm hoping that the new line of IONIQs will fix this set back.
I have had a 2021 Ioniq for 5 weeks and love it. The manual tells me that the lights and entertainment system is run by the 12 Volt battery in the front of the car and not the main 38Kwh
Excellent, a realistic range test. What I have seen from other 90 KMS range tests is that the cars normally get around 90% of their WLTP range, there are some exceptions. Lots of variables are in play so even if you did the same test a few times the result would never be the same. I would expect the same range test on the ID.3 1st will be just under 400 KMS.
Wow to get to 94% in my car at a 350kW charger I get to 68kW and then it tails off after 80% but still finish in about 30min. Sad how Hyundai have such poor charge rates on this 39kWh pack. It aligns with Bjorn's results though.
The decision is about money. This is the small Kona battery. It is cheaper to use an excisting battery then to develop a new one. But they could have designed it better from the start.
could you take the same test with ioniq 5 as well, many who are waiting for that test from norway since many have ordered it here and you can get many followers.
Interesting video! I wonder though: What would be the optimal speed to get the shortest time driving 1000 km..? (Good to know when going on holidays no..?!)
After doing the maths out of the BC numbers having driven 300 km, the battery would already have lost 1.5 % of its rated capacity. I guess, there might be at least 1... 2 % below displayed 0 % SOC available during the display maintains showing "0 %". But trying this is not suitable for wimps. 😄 My longest ride without recharging was 272 km with a consumption of 90 % SOC in summer 2022. This year, it looks like that would be harder as only around 135 km remaining are claimed on 50 % SOC instead of around 150 km...
@@dominikhejl5748During this summer, the available distance displayed at 50 % SOC recovered to >170 km unexpectedly. Indeed no degradation noticeable at 25.000 km.
Speed! joke aside : I have a model 3 SR+ and a good way to reduce consumption is to play with the heating settings. I usually do 20 degrees, fan at 1 no AC. In winter, heating your feet takes quite some power too! Just go windscreen and facing you'll notice a difference. If you turn HVAC completely off the condumption really goes down. I did a test on my daily commute without HVAC at all on both ways, I got a crazy low consumption of 120Wh/km (with half distance at 110kph). With HVAC I never go below 135 typically (that was with 10degrees outside). After lockdown and putting summer tyres on again I'll probably be even more efficient.
TheVanlaas Model 3 has more unsprung weight - wheels are bigger and heavier and have more rolling resistance. The Ioniq is a Prius class car where they’ve worked harder on mechanical friction and traded off looks against aero efficiency.
These Korean models ( I have a Kia EV) seem much more efficient than other models, Leaf, Zoe etc. Of course assessories are the killer on all EV's. Then there is regen'........
@captain pugwash You're right, but if anyone is looking to buy a EV, the best charging speed and range belong to Tesla, especially now with the new 4680 battery, range will increase to 500-600 miles. I've heard that Tesla is expensive in Europe, here in the U.S. cheapest Model 3 is around $39,000.
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The realistic range test was great, but the charging time breakdown at the end was excellent. Thank you very much
Having to run heater and rain is a killer for range for sure.
I really enjoyed your break down at the end with the time spent for each 10%interval. I had not seen that kind of analysis before and I find it very useful. Thanks for the video Chris.
u most be a scientist sir, I love how you break down the charging so concisely! I am seriously thinking about getting a 2020 I was scared about cold-gate charging, and that it would never charge at a reasonable speed. 47 kwh speed aint so bad. insta subbed, cant wait to see the rest of your channel!
Thanks. Had the car in summer. Don't know how it charges in the winter.
Just ordered one of these cars and really useful to understand how much charge and over what time. Thanks 👍
So much better than 40 kw Leaf. You’d be lucky to do 200km on the motorway.
You did this test in May, when the temperature was 14 degrees. Today, July 16 here in Portugal, we have 38 degrees. When I turn off the Ioniq's air conditioning, the autonomy increases between 10 to 20 km. My experience tells me that in hot temperatures, the ioniq air conditioning removes up to 20 km of autonomy.
Once again I recorded your video. Thanks Chris for sharing
Thanks for introducing your viewers to "Wesley" (not sure of the spelling). Is he the silent partner in your video production company? Lots of great information on the Ionic. I drove the Kona and found it to be a fun car to drive, although here (Québec, Canada) it is close to $50k, perhaps before government incentives? Good news is that we pay about 10 cents per kilowatt hour for electricity. I might have to wait and buy a used EV as my next car. I'm tired of relying on ICE technology. Thanks for uploading this video. Cheers.
I have one myself. Around 9-11 kWh in (warm) Oct/Nov. I'am happy!
Thanks for the video, great detail. I still don't understand why Hyundai changed its battery voltage to limit the charging. I have a 28 kwh IONIQ and at 90 km/hour I can go for 200 km no problem and can recharge to 94% in about 30 minutes. I was planning to change my 28 kwh to the 38 kwh but the slower charging speed was the deciding factor. I'm hoping that the new line of IONIQs will fix this set back.
Great video battery life
Thank you
Look like best deal is charge rapid from 50-80%.minimal impact on battery , charging on 0.5 c or lower and very fast.
I have had a 2021 Ioniq for 5 weeks and love it. The manual tells me that the lights and entertainment system is run by the 12 Volt battery in the front of the car and not the main 38Kwh
Only motor, ac and heat power comes from the high voltage battery. Everything else is from the 12V battery.
Great video! Thanks 👍🏻
Oh nice new nav software with gps speedo and stop button. I still use the old one
Excellent, a realistic range test. What I have seen from other 90 KMS range tests is that the cars normally get around 90% of their WLTP range, there are some exceptions. Lots of variables are in play so even if you did the same test a few times the result would never be the same. I would expect the same range test on the ID.3 1st will be just under 400 KMS.
do you think 90 out of 120 is realistic? then it could have gone 50 away and then the range would have been longer ....
Even 20 °C instead of around 15 °C ambient temperature would make a notable difference.
Great video My Friend. Do you have an OBD2 connector? Would be interested to know what the actual voltage is at fully charged and fully discharged.
Wow to get to 94% in my car at a 350kW charger I get to 68kW and then it tails off after 80% but still finish in about 30min. Sad how Hyundai have such poor charge rates on this 39kWh pack. It aligns with Bjorn's results though.
TassieEV1 what’s your car?
@@amiddled Ioniq 28 Classic
I can't understand Hyundai's logic to introduce a refreshed EV model that charges about 30-40% slower than the previous model.
The decision is about money. This is the small Kona battery. It is cheaper to use an excisting battery then to develop a new one.
But they could have designed it better from the start.
In USA we have only the 64kWh Kona in a limited number of states. Does the 38kWh Kona charges so slow too?
Yes. It is the exact same battery. Sadly.
@Wooly Chewbakker Depends on available chargers along the route. If they are plentiful I would suggest the 28 kWh ioniq.
It could be the perfect electric car if the charge speed would be doubled...
Fascinating video... love it
imo the constructors should concentrate on power loss reduction instead of trying to sell us bigger battery's.
could you take the same test with ioniq 5 as well, many who are waiting for that test from norway since many have ordered it here and you can get many followers.
Excellent detailed presentation.
Interesting video! I wonder though: What would be the optimal speed to get the shortest time driving 1000 km..? (Good to know when going on holidays no..?!)
About 110 to 115 km/h.
the 43 km is almost 27 miles. for 1st warning.
19 miles for turtle mode
300 km is 186 miles
give me location to take car away.
You had the ‘heat seater’ on lol
Always heat seater, seat heater.
17°C outside. You really need heat on?
Yes, I do.
"12.5kwh consumption is very high" e tron has entered the chat...
125wh
Well what’s did it cost to make that recharge?
After doing the maths out of the BC numbers having driven 300 km, the battery would already have lost 1.5 % of its rated capacity.
I guess, there might be at least 1... 2 % below displayed 0 % SOC available during the display maintains showing "0 %". But trying this is not suitable for wimps. 😄
My longest ride without recharging was 272 km with a consumption of 90 % SOC in summer 2022.
This year, it looks like that would be harder as only around 135 km remaining are claimed on 50 % SOC instead of around 150 km...
these cars have 10% buffer. i have seen at least two ioniq's 28kWh with around 90tkm on clock without noticable degradation, while doing maintenance.
@@dominikhejl5748During this summer, the available distance displayed at 50 % SOC recovered to >170 km unexpectedly. Indeed no degradation noticeable at 25.000 km.
wow 120 wh/km is crazy effiecient, my model 3 uses 155 wh/km. why do you think that is?
Speed!
joke aside : I have a model 3 SR+ and a good way to reduce consumption is to play with the heating settings.
I usually do 20 degrees, fan at 1 no AC. In winter, heating your feet takes quite some power too! Just go windscreen and facing you'll notice a difference. If you turn HVAC completely off the condumption really goes down.
I did a test on my daily commute without HVAC at all on both ways, I got a crazy low consumption of 120Wh/km (with half distance at 110kph).
With HVAC I never go below 135 typically (that was with 10degrees outside).
After lockdown and putting summer tyres on again I'll probably be even more efficient.
TheVanlaas Model 3 has more unsprung weight - wheels are bigger and heavier and have more rolling resistance. The Ioniq is a Prius class car where they’ve worked harder on mechanical friction and traded off looks against aero efficiency.
These Korean models ( I have a Kia EV) seem much more efficient than other models, Leaf, Zoe etc. Of course assessories are the killer on all EV's. Then there is regen'........
12 kilowats to move this weight with 90 kmh its nothing.
Next time Turn off the lights (low beam). U have drl (in front bumper)
Led lights barely need any power. And on the highway I drive mostly with low beams. Safety.
I easily get max actual range of 360km on my 2022 38kwh if ac not needed
All depends on the speed and weather.
Does this car use a heat pump?
You can get it with one. No idea if this car had a heatpump.
not from bad parents - your english
Genau. Denglish
Battery Life, you mean deutschglish? :)
Please translate Jesses... 😀
That is a very slow charging
@captain pugwash
Tesla can charge from 10% to 80% in 20 minutes.
@captain pugwash
You're right, but if anyone is looking to buy a EV, the best charging speed and range belong to Tesla, especially now with the new 4680 battery, range will increase to 500-600 miles. I've heard that Tesla is expensive in Europe, here in the U.S. cheapest Model 3 is around $39,000.
@@peterp4753 You certainly pay for it too.
1h45 to get to 100%, this is absolutly terrible.
Who wants to drive at 90 on an empty autobahn?
You don't get the point ;) This is a range test to compare different cars at the same task. It should simulate a mix of country and city driving.