(as PHEV 2017 owner) For rear lower mirror rain fogging - I start rear window heating, and visibility improves in few minutes (or swipe it before drive). For "key out of car" warning with engine ON - just do not close all doors on car and alarm will not start-off. ...but that does not mean those are not quirks at least... to add one quirk of my own - when wiper in auto with high intensity, if wipers work faster, they tend to lock in (do not have time to dry out in front of sensor) and must be turned off and on.
Then it would have been an E Niro, Hyundai Said it would not raise the car, I guess it would have gone too far away from the Ioniq concept. The tires are slightly taller 60 Vs 55 this is because the battery pack purtroudes a bit more from underneath its chassis.. This also acounts of the 3% error in the in the trip meter..
Apparently, the problem of scheduled charging has not been solved on Ioniq 38 as it is also on my Ioniq 28. I have looked into this closely on Ioniq 28 and will try for an explanation - and a solution. You want to put your Ioniq or Kona for charging at home so that the car itself finds out how much time it will need to charge to 100% and start as late as possible so that the car is just fully charged at 7 AM. When the plug is put into the car for charging, the car assesses, based on the effect the car is given, to calculate the charging length - and thereby determine the time when charging should start. Unfortunately, the problem is that the car is too fast to detect the charging effect and for some (maybe many) home chargers this will be low just after plugging in the car. Therefore, the car calculate a much longer time to charge than necessary - maybe twice as long. The charging time that the car after 5 - 10 sec. show in the display, on the other hand, is the correct one, but unfortunately it is not this time that the car really uses for the first calculation, but as mentioned a much longer time. If the car shows that it needs 5 hours to charge, then the charging may start incorrectly about 10 hours before the expected departure time, although the correct one will be 5 hours before. You can even do a very simple experiment with the 5 hours of charging time as an example. Connect the type 2 plug and turn on the car, or vice versa. Go to page: ** Low Power Price Settings ** and remove all numbers (times) on this page; both for weekdays and weekends. Then go to the page: ** Set the expected departure time ** and set the time to 6 AM if the current time is 6 PM. As there are now 12 hours to the expected departure time, charging will not start. Re-enter the expected departure time and change 6 AM to 1 AM which is 7 hours later than the current time (6 PM). Press OK. If the car calculates correctly then the charging does not start and you basically do not need to read on; your car works as intended. If it is incorrectly calculated, then charging will start immediately as the car expects to spend about 10 hours for charging. That's the mistake! The interesting thing is that if you then reset the time to the original expected departure time: 6 AM, press OK (charging stops); goes into the expected departure time once again and again reduces the time to 1 AM, then the charging process does not start - a bit oddly. But now the charge works as it should. The reason for this I have not completely clarified, but I expect the car to make a new hand shake with the charging box as I changed at the expected departure time and stopped and started charging briefly. After this check I will now be able to set the expected departure time to 7 AM and then be sure that the car starts charging at 2 AM which is 5 hours before 7 AM instead of 9 PM which is 10 hours before 7 AM. The above is a bug that can also be found on Kona.
@@judebrown4103 In fact, it is not at all my own discovery and solution to this time setting issue. It was first announced by a TH-camr called The EV Puzzle, who in a video from October 13, 2018 explains the nature of the problem.
@@thrustsst well I never! Im also subbed to The EV Puzzle but wasn't yet in 2018. Well done on acknowledging him, he deserves it and you do yourself credit by doing so. 👍
I agree with most of it. Not sure about LFA but that is a personal choice thing anyway. Though my car only has LKAS being the classic Ioniq 28kWh. My car though has both a Trip A & Trip B so odd that the new one doesn't unless that is a German model only thing or European model thing. I'm happy I have physical buttons, after I saw the new model I was happy I got the older model, though I can only charge to 100% no charge limit option unless I manually time it and stop it myself. Overall I totally agree with your assessment. The tire spin thing is crazy, think it is something to do with tires that Hyundai picked you could get softer ones but would make it less efficient I'm thinking but better grip in wet.
Hey Chris just looked at the blue link and it appears you can schedule charging. Not tried it yet as I don't need a charge. Keep up the good work and maybe Hyundai will tackle some of the issues in an update 😁😁😁
I tried it a few minutes ago. After I defined my departure time and the desired SoC in the Bluelink app and sent it to the car, charging was immediately interrupted. In the app you can see that the car will be charged according to the planned departure time.
The 28 kWh classic Ioniq offers schedule charging. You set days of the week, time of departure and optional heating on the screen of the car in the EV section (easy to find there). So the car is charged (to 100%, no restriction here) and warm when you want to depart. When you have set scheduled charging and plug-in, the charging does not start immediately, instead one of the three blue LEDs in the front is blinking. I'm quite sure the new Ioniq also offers this feature.
I haven't used a charger yet (Ioniq was ordered 7 months ago and I should get it within 1 month), but can't you select a start/stop time on the smart charger itself? Even if you can't specify a percentage, you should be able to set a charge duration?
Yes, it‘s abit of a pity. However it‘s related to less cobalt in the cells which is a good thing. In addition it‘s to increase the longivity of the battery which is good as well. Then thinking on how often you drive more than 250km and would need to wait 15 additional minutes in those cases, it‘s a matter on how often this would apply to your driving profile. For me it‘s good enough to live with it.. The tendency to move away from haptic buttons is a poor design choice, which wouldn‘t cost a fortune to fit into. Maybe it‘s because you shouldn‘t drive and play around, however it would be much safer in any cast to use haptic buttons. I agree. It‘s annoying, but something one can live with IMHO.
The Ioniq does have a departure schedule function and a way to specify the low rate period for electricity. Its the same system on Kia EVs. The scheduling function is in the EV button.
Yes it works. Scheduled charging works for special hours. What I wanted was, that the car charges to the desired charge limit when a certain time is reached. But this Ioniq started charging right away!
Battery Life yes that is true and indeed confusing. I had the same struggle and found it illogic to not be able to specify the charging start time. The workaround I found was simply using the BlueLink app and manually starting the charge which is handy at times and inconvenient if you want it started in the middle of the night 🤷🏼♂️ I’m surprised you didn’t talk about fast charging speed, most videos annoyingly mention this as a flaw but also fail to mention that fast charging should be the exception since doing so on a regular basis actually reduces the battery life expectancy
Useful stuff, the Ioniq does look like it should be efficient, it’s low and sleek compared to even really decent EVs like the Kona. In the UK, I am more mixed up now as to what units we are going to use than ever! - but 5/8 of the kmh number is mph, so that means your 180kph is 22.5 x 5 = 112.5mph. That extra is not a speed range commonly used, but it’s nice to have the ‘headroom’ or know the car is in its comfort zone doing the major hiway/motorway speeds. Thanks for documenting this car’s capabilities. Keep safe and be equal, everybody.
@Name not supplied Yes, 10 divided by 16 (1.0 div by 1.6) is the same as 5/8. You must be the post-calculator generation, I prefer to calc stuff in my head. Here’s a party trick you can do to people who are similarly post-calculator: you know how there’s people who can recall ‘Pi’ to a thousand decimal places? I can remember it to even greater accuracy…(pause for the group to expect you to reel off a series of digits)…22/7 is Pi exactly. That, is more accurate than 3.141 etc (can’t recall the rest). Decimal is a great system, but fractions have advantages that are impossible to beat. Finally, you are right and we are in agreement. I am just explaining why I use fractions. It’s all good.
Hi Chris I have the 28kwh Ioniq and I have the LKA/LFA menu on the steering wheel buttons. It's the same menu where you enable and adjust the electric seat comfort function. I can set up there what option I want as default regarding LKA/LFA or off. It should be the same in the new model also. About the buzzer for the 'key not in the car' warning, I will locate it and put a bit of duct tape over it so it will sound more discrete. More like a reminder then an alarm 😉 About the drops of water left on the small back window, they don't bother me because that viewing angle is not really necessary for me, unless I want to see the licence plate of the cars behind me. (and the new model has the rear view camera for that if needed) ☺ The wheel spin for me is no issue. I am not a sporty driver aniway, but I have already adapted to it pretty quick. Also lowering a little bit the front tyre preassure will help if not possible to get softer rubber tyres. Great video. I wish you ordered an Ioniq instead 😁
the heat button only disable the electric heater. the headpump still runs. unless you disable AC. in Winter i always disable the heater and only use the heat Pump.
Acumulated info (trip A) 😉 Drive info (trip B) you can change from setting to not reset dayli 😉 At my car i restet trip A at every oil change and trip B at every petrol full, but is better to (auto) reset dayli because in this mode you have ready saved dayli history consumption 😉
Funny thing is that on two occasions my wife has dropped me off somewhere and I have had the car key in my pocket…..once she stopped the car and couldn’t restart it until I brought the key to her and the second time she didn’t ignore the warning and came back to collect the key.
100% acknowledge If you change wiping interval the wiper do not start wipe immediately. e.g. windshield full of water, change wiping interval: nothing happened.
I have deposits down on a Ioniq and a Tesla 3. Its a really difficult decision. Critical factor. My daughter lives 145 miles away and I visit every month. Given both are within budget which would you choose?
You should drive both and choose the one that fit your needs. For me comfortable and how it drives is more important than Power, Range and charging speed.
Are you sure that you cannot schedule charging time for low rates? My ioniq 28 will wait - the blue middle light flashes to show it is waiting for scheduled low price electricity.
@@BatteryLife ah yes. Also the best solution for battery longevity. You could cheat the system I suppose: set the off peak time to be the same as your departure time. If you had the same daily routine this might be possible - or you could use the charge current settings and choose a rate to help timing. Probably need someone to do chart showing how long and at what current the car would need to be set, to deliver the correct finish time!
@@BatteryLife Schade. Very useful thing is the HUD. I guess you can use the 12V to put a portable one in though, which is what I currently do for my gen 2 Prius.
@@ericandeva It could be 20 digital screens, when you're looking down you're not looking at the road. I want to be always aware of my speed AND the road at the same time and not having to look down all the time.
@@yggdrasil9039 is to easy and fast to read now the displays compare for e.g. to vw passat 2005 where speed is analog and centre display is where climate is (very down and small)
@@BatteryLife in your experience of charging from ..%-..% of charge you get the top speed of 49kwh ? From what i saw it's just a peak, it stays usually at around
Yes that was a lot for a gain of 100 miles. That's equivalent to a car that gets 50mpg at $4.30 per gallon. It would have been $5.85 at home. Those charging stations are a ripoff. But I guess your paying for the company overhead of installing the charger, maintaining the charger, etc...
Haptic / capacitive buttons are a pain. I don't care what Musk thinks, analogue switches and knobs are far safer and more reliable than screens and soft-switches.
Bissl vernünftigerer Preis und mindestens gleiche Ladeleistung wie das Vor Facelift und vernünftige Konditionen beim Leasing seitens Hyundai, dann wäre der Hobel ein Traum.
what a moaner........ a distracted driver........ I learned just about your preferences and shortcomings,,,,,,,,,,, but I liked it cos I like this car.....different
The mandatory split screen with Apple CarPlay and Android has been fixed. Picked mine up yesterday and enjoyed full screen use for Apple CarPlay
Enjoyed that. Got mine yesterday so lots of useful information gained from this video!
What a great video, all points very relative, and impressed you almost started a rant, stay safe Chris.
Thanks Chris for your thoughts about likes and dislikes. Again a very nice video. Very precise and objective.
Exellent video with lots of information! Thanks!
Thank you! can't wait to get my car next week
Enjoy it.
(as PHEV 2017 owner) For rear lower mirror rain fogging - I start rear window heating, and visibility improves in few minutes (or swipe it before drive). For "key out of car" warning with engine ON - just do not close all doors on car and alarm will not start-off. ...but that does not mean those are not quirks at least... to add one quirk of my own - when wiper in auto with high intensity, if wipers work faster, they tend to lock in (do not have time to dry out in front of sensor) and must be turned off and on.
Another great video Chris, just imagine the range if they could squeeze the same 64kwh battery into it that all the other Kia/ Hyundai have.
Then it would have been an E Niro, Hyundai Said it would not raise the car, I guess it would have gone too far away from the Ioniq concept. The tires are slightly taller 60 Vs 55 this is because the battery pack purtroudes a bit more from underneath its chassis.. This also acounts of the 3% error in the in the trip meter..
Thanks Chris, just what I wanted to hear as my Ioniq gets delivered to me at the end of June!
Excellent review. top.
Apparently, the problem of scheduled charging has not been solved on Ioniq 38 as it is also on my Ioniq 28. I have looked into this closely on Ioniq 28 and will try for an explanation - and a solution. You want to put your Ioniq or Kona for charging at home so that the car itself finds out how much time it will need to charge to 100% and start as late as possible so that the car is just fully charged at 7 AM. When the plug is put into the car for charging, the car assesses, based on the effect the car is given, to calculate the charging length - and thereby determine the time when charging should start.
Unfortunately, the problem is that the car is too fast to detect the charging effect and for some (maybe many) home chargers this will be low just after plugging in the car. Therefore, the car calculate a much longer time to charge than necessary - maybe twice as long. The charging time that the car after 5 - 10 sec. show in the display, on the other hand, is the correct one, but unfortunately it is not this time that the car really uses for the first calculation, but as mentioned a much longer time.
If the car shows that it needs 5 hours to charge, then the charging may start incorrectly about 10 hours before the expected departure time, although the correct one will be 5 hours before. You can even do a very simple experiment with the 5 hours of charging time as an example.
Connect the type 2 plug and turn on the car, or vice versa. Go to page: ** Low Power Price Settings ** and remove all numbers (times) on this page; both for weekdays and weekends. Then go to the page: ** Set the expected departure time ** and set the time to 6 AM if the current time is 6 PM. As there are now 12 hours to the expected departure time, charging will not start. Re-enter the expected departure time and change 6 AM to 1 AM which is 7 hours later than the current time (6 PM). Press OK.
If the car calculates correctly then the charging does not start and you basically do not need to read on; your car works as intended.
If it is incorrectly calculated, then charging will start immediately as the car expects to spend about 10 hours for charging. That's the mistake!
The interesting thing is that if you then reset the time to the original expected departure time: 6 AM, press OK (charging stops); goes into the expected departure time once again and again reduces the time to 1 AM, then the charging process does not start - a bit oddly. But now the charge works as it should. The reason for this I have not completely clarified, but I expect the car to make a new hand shake with the charging box as I changed at the expected departure time and stopped and started charging briefly.
After this check I will now be able to set the expected departure time to 7 AM and then be sure that the car starts charging at 2 AM which is 5 hours before 7 AM instead of 9 PM which is 10 hours before 7 AM. The above is a bug that can also be found on Kona.
This is genius! Did they fix yet with ota?
@@judebrown4103 NO - Ioniq 28 has no OTA facility.
@@thrustsst oh that's a shame... your genius method it is then! 🤓
@@judebrown4103 In fact, it is not at all my own discovery and solution to this time setting issue. It was first announced by a TH-camr called The EV Puzzle, who in a video from October 13, 2018 explains the nature of the problem.
@@thrustsst well I never! Im also subbed to The EV Puzzle but wasn't yet in 2018. Well done on acknowledging him, he deserves it and you do yourself credit by doing so. 👍
I agree with most of it. Not sure about LFA but that is a personal choice thing anyway. Though my car only has LKAS being the classic Ioniq 28kWh. My car though has both a Trip A & Trip B so odd that the new one doesn't unless that is a German model only thing or European model thing. I'm happy I have physical buttons, after I saw the new model I was happy I got the older model, though I can only charge to 100% no charge limit option unless I manually time it and stop it myself. Overall I totally agree with your assessment.
The tire spin thing is crazy, think it is something to do with tires that Hyundai picked you could get softer ones but would make it less efficient I'm thinking but better grip in wet.
Hey Chris just looked at the blue link and it appears you can schedule charging. Not tried it yet as I don't need a charge. Keep up the good work and maybe Hyundai will tackle some of the issues in an update 😁😁😁
I tried it a few minutes ago. After I defined my departure time and the desired SoC in the Bluelink app and sent it to the car, charging was immediately interrupted. In the app you can see that the car will be charged according to the planned departure time.
The 28 kWh classic Ioniq offers schedule charging. You set days of the week, time of departure and optional heating on the screen of the car in the EV section (easy to find there). So the car is charged (to 100%, no restriction here) and warm when you want to depart. When you have set scheduled charging and plug-in, the charging does not start immediately, instead one of the three blue LEDs in the front is blinking. I'm quite sure the new Ioniq also offers this feature.
I haven't used a charger yet (Ioniq was ordered 7 months ago and I should get it within 1 month), but can't you select a start/stop time on the smart charger itself? Even if you can't specify a percentage, you should be able to set a charge duration?
It's a pity about the charging speed and those haptic buttons on the new model. They got it right the first time. :)
Yes, it‘s abit of a pity. However it‘s related to less cobalt in the cells which is a good thing. In addition it‘s to increase the longivity of the battery which is good as well. Then thinking on how often you drive more than 250km and would need to wait 15 additional minutes in those cases, it‘s a matter on how often this would apply to your driving profile. For me it‘s good enough to live with it.. The tendency to move away from haptic buttons is a poor design choice, which wouldn‘t cost a fortune to fit into. Maybe it‘s because you shouldn‘t drive and play around, however it would be much safer in any cast to use haptic buttons. I agree. It‘s annoying, but something one can live with IMHO.
Totally agree about the wiper sensors. I have a 2021 model and the auto wipers drive me mad.
Add a pad to your garage door. I like it, I am tall and I don't hit my head.
Great video, I have had rain sensors on a number of cars and they have never worked properly. I guess humans are just better at somethings 🙂
The entire glass should be a sensor to make it work well ^^ Maybe with the camera at the bottom they could do it.
Renault Kangoo has a very good rain sensor. I was surprised how good it worked compared to my old Ioniq.
The Ioniq does have a departure schedule function and a way to specify the low rate period for electricity. Its the same system on Kia EVs. The scheduling function is in the EV button.
Yes it works. Scheduled charging works for special hours.
What I wanted was, that the car charges to the desired charge limit when a certain time is reached. But this Ioniq started charging right away!
Battery Life yes that is true and indeed confusing. I had the same struggle and found it illogic to not be able to specify the charging start time. The workaround I found was simply using the BlueLink app and manually starting the charge which is handy at times and inconvenient if you want it started in the middle of the night 🤷🏼♂️ I’m surprised you didn’t talk about fast charging speed, most videos annoyingly mention this as a flaw but also fail to mention that fast charging should be the exception since doing so on a regular basis actually reduces the battery life expectancy
The charging speed is worse than the model before. But amongst other car, I think it is ok.
02:50 nice vibrato!
Now Gone Obcelte, I found out after I had waited, 6 months, went Obcelete around the time I ordered, it, Cancelled it, Lucky escape
Useful stuff, the Ioniq does look like it should be efficient, it’s low and sleek compared to even really decent EVs like the Kona. In the UK, I am more mixed up now as to what units we are going to use than ever! - but 5/8 of the kmh number is mph, so that means your 180kph is 22.5 x 5 = 112.5mph. That extra is not a speed range commonly used, but it’s nice to have the ‘headroom’ or know the car is in its comfort zone doing the major hiway/motorway speeds. Thanks for documenting this car’s capabilities. Keep safe and be equal, everybody.
@Name not supplied Yes, 10 divided by 16 (1.0 div by 1.6) is the same as 5/8. You must be the post-calculator generation, I prefer to calc stuff in my head. Here’s a party trick you can do to people who are similarly post-calculator: you know how there’s people who can recall ‘Pi’ to a thousand decimal places? I can remember it to even greater accuracy…(pause for the group to expect you to reel off a series of digits)…22/7 is Pi exactly. That, is more accurate than 3.141 etc (can’t recall the rest). Decimal is a great system, but fractions have advantages that are impossible to beat. Finally, you are right and we are in agreement. I am just explaining why I use fractions. It’s all good.
Hi Chris. I value comfort and refinement over everything else. Would you say the Ionic is more comfortable than the Soul?
I think the seating position is a bit better in the new eSoul.
👏
Opening the charging lid from inside is a good thing. Then it wont freeze stucked during the winter
Why would it not freeze?
Hi Chris
I have the 28kwh Ioniq and I have the LKA/LFA menu on the steering wheel buttons. It's the same menu where you enable and adjust the electric seat comfort function.
I can set up there what option I want as default regarding LKA/LFA or off.
It should be the same in the new model also.
About the buzzer for the 'key not in the car' warning, I will locate it and put a bit of duct tape over it so it will sound more discrete. More like a reminder then an alarm 😉
About the drops of water left on the small back window, they don't bother me because that viewing angle is not really necessary for me, unless I want to see the licence plate of the cars behind me. (and the new model has the rear view camera for that if needed) ☺
The wheel spin for me is no issue. I am not a sporty driver aniway, but I have already adapted to it pretty quick. Also lowering a little bit the front tyre preassure will help if not possible to get softer rubber tyres.
Great video.
I wish you ordered an Ioniq instead 😁
the heat button only disable the electric heater. the headpump still runs. unless you disable AC. in Winter i always disable the heater and only use the heat Pump.
Are you sure? Sounds weird. And with the instant power consumption you can see that the consumption goes to zero when deactivating the Heat button.
Acumulated info (trip A) 😉
Drive info (trip B) you can change from setting to not reset dayli 😉
At my car i restet trip A at every oil change and trip B at every petrol full, but is better to (auto) reset dayli because in this mode you have ready saved dayli history consumption 😉
Ioniq electric facelift could not be set to mot reset daily.
Funny thing is that on two occasions my wife has dropped me off somewhere and I have had the car key in my pocket…..once she stopped the car and couldn’t restart it until I brought the key to her and the second time she didn’t ignore the warning and came back to collect the key.
Hyun rhymes with English word "Shun"
Dai (is a bad transliteration) is exactly the same as Dae in "Daedalus" of Greek Mythology.
100% acknowledge
If you change wiping interval the wiper do not start wipe immediately. e.g. windshield full of water, change wiping interval: nothing happened.
Do you have similar videos for Kona and Model 3?
Yes for Kona, No for Model 3.
I have deposits down on a Ioniq and a Tesla 3. Its a really difficult decision. Critical factor. My daughter lives 145 miles away and I visit every month. Given both are within budget which would you choose?
You should drive both and choose the one that fit your needs. For me comfortable and how it drives is more important than Power, Range and charging speed.
Tesla. Surely having much more range in the car would be a major factor if you do what’s 80/90% of the capacity on a regular basis?
Hi, i know its older video, but about the key beeping. When you keep door open, car will not beeping ;) I got same with Santa Fe
I know
Are you sure that you cannot schedule charging time for low rates? My ioniq 28 will wait - the blue middle light flashes to show it is waiting for scheduled low price electricity.
Yes, it can do this. What I wanted was scheduled charging to the charge limit at a desired time.
I tried, but it just started charging right away.
@@BatteryLife ah yes. Also the best solution for battery longevity.
You could cheat the system I suppose: set the off peak time to be the same as your departure time. If you had the same daily routine this might be possible - or you could use the charge current settings and choose a rate to help timing.
Probably need someone to do chart showing how long and at what current the car would need to be set, to deliver the correct finish time!
Yes tactile buttons much better than haptic. Is there HUD (Head Up Display) in the 38kWh?
No HUD in the Ioniq
@@BatteryLife Schade. Very useful thing is the HUD. I guess you can use the 12V to put a portable one in though, which is what I currently do for my gen 2 Prius.
With 2 digital big screen and very high position you still need hud? 🙄
@@ericandeva It could be 20 digital screens, when you're looking down you're not looking at the road. I want to be always aware of my speed AND the road at the same time and not having to look down all the time.
@@yggdrasil9039 is to easy and fast to read now the displays compare for e.g. to vw passat 2005 where speed is analog and centre display is where climate is (very down and small)
Is it more quiet than the old 2018 model?
The same
The sound is supposed to alert people walking around in low speeds for safety purposes, caus the car is silent
I know. Still, don't like it.
@@BatteryLife in your experience of charging from ..%-..% of charge you get the top speed of 49kwh ?
From what i saw it's just a peak, it stays usually at around
I have a charging video online.
It stays above 40 kW until 50% or so. Check out the video.
@@BatteryLife thank you, just watched the video ! doesn't seem too bad, in other reviews it seemed to do a lot worse than your results
this car have a very weird rear hatch back window.
Yes that was a lot for a gain of 100 miles. That's equivalent to a car that gets 50mpg at $4.30 per gallon. It would have been $5.85 at home. Those charging stations are a ripoff. But I guess your paying for the company overhead of installing the charger, maintaining the charger, etc...
Haptic / capacitive buttons are a pain. I don't care what Musk thinks, analogue switches and knobs are far safer and more reliable than screens and soft-switches.
Why car makers lie about the range?
And then get there sales people to carry on the lie ! Really annoying
Have you never owned a car before?
Bissl vernünftigerer Preis und mindestens gleiche Ladeleistung wie das Vor Facelift und vernünftige Konditionen beim Leasing seitens Hyundai, dann wäre der Hobel ein Traum.
what a moaner........ a distracted driver........ I learned just about your preferences and shortcomings,,,,,,,,,,, but I liked it cos I like this car.....different
worse, 2 x 12v and a USB in the same place.
1 for dashboard camera and 1 for phone charger. In my car for that reason i put a multicharger (4l . So ioniq is perfect