I remember seeing T2 in the theater in 1991 when I was 13 years old. I grew up in a suburb of L.A. and I currently work in the area where the scenes of John being chased on his motorcycle by the T1000 in the semi truck were shot. It has to be one of my favorite nostalgic cinema experiences from my youth. Thanks for giving me a great excuse to watch it for the zillionth time.
Nice. I live in carson. Ever seen a movie called jackie brown? There's a scene where robert deniro shoots a woman in the parking lot of del amo mall in torrance. I saw that movie in the movie theater that used to be at del amo mall and our car was parked in the same parking lot where deniro smoked her lmao. Was a trip to watch
James Cameron just threw shade at you and anyone else that viewed the movie in 1991. He said in a very recent interview that the original T2 audience are either "dead, retired, crippled or have dementia". In relation to how no one showed up to watch Dark Fate. Cameron is so passive-agressive these days.
10:08 Problem Child 2, released the same day as Terminator 2, predominantly used Bad to the Bone. It was also used for the opening credits of the first Problem Child. There’s also a story Bill Wisher tells where he suggested that song when they were writing it and Cameron refused. When T2 was being editing, Cameron showed Wisher this scene cut to Bad to the Bone and claimed it was his idea. Wisher knew better than to start an argument with Cameron and didn’t say anything since he won the argument with this being in the final film.
T2 was one my favourite films as a kid, I probably watched it at least 50 times back then 😅 but haven't seen it in 15-20 years. As an adult I enjoy T1 more and I watch it fairly regularly. Thanks to you I rediscovered this amazing film, watching it again after so many years felt like going back to my childhood, 'going home'. You guys did a great commentary, keep it up! 😁
I always felt that the desert/prepper scenes were the most interesting, especially after having watched the movie many times over (quite the opposite of your opinion). They always seemed to me to be the part of the narrative that was the most fertile ground for the kinds of extra-canonical supportive spin-off story telling that franchise nerds like us would look for in novels, comics, and of course the TV show. I always wondered about how Sarah formed her relationship with the community there, for example, or how she gave birth to John and then subsequently educated him.
I want to see the deleted scene of the T800 trying to get into the mall's back corridor but is unable to make the combi-lock on the staff door work & needs to wait for the duty manager to bring the janitor with a mad huge key fob chained to a brick....
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:26 *🎬 Commentary introduction and film background* - Introduction to the commentary on Terminator 2: Judgment Day Special Edition. - Background information on the film's production and initial reception. 02:09 *🎥 Opening sequence and filmmaking insights* - Analysis of the iconic opening sequence depicting a post-apocalyptic Los Angeles. - Details about the production, including the use of practical effects and miniature work. 04:05 *🎵 Musical score and thematic resonance* - Appreciation for Brad Fiedel's iconic musical score and its thematic resonance with the film's apocalyptic setting. - Comparison of the music in Terminator 2 with subsequent Terminator sequels. 06:22 *📽️ Influence of Mad Max and genre conventions* - Examination of Mad Max's influence on the post-apocalyptic genre and filmmaking industry. - Discussion on the formulaic nature of Terminator sequels and their adherence to genre conventions. 08:01 *🏙️ Filming locations and historical context* - Insight into filming locations, including the significance of a bar adjacent to the Rodney King incident. - Anecdotes about real-world events coinciding with the production of certain scenes. 09:27 *💪 Physicality of actors and character portrayal* - Analysis of the physicality of actors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Robert Patrick in their respective roles. - Comparison of Schwarzenegger's portrayal of the Terminator across different films. 11:26 *🎬 Directorial choices and narrative pacing* - Examination of director James Cameron's choices in the Special Edition cut compared to the theatrical release. - Discussion on pacing differences and the impact on audience engagement. 12:51 *🔪 Production details and behind-the-scenes anecdotes* - Behind-the-scenes anecdotes about production challenges, including the removal of a digital "willy" from a scene. - Insight into editorial decisions and conflicts between editors and director James Cameron. 14:14 *🎭 Acting performances and character nuances* - Analysis of Robert Patrick's performance and character nuances as the T-1000. 16:04 *🏢 Set design and production authenticity* - Discussion on the authenticity of set design, including the repurposing of an office building to depict a mental institution. 17:34 *💥 Action sequences and choreography* - Analysis of action sequences and choreography, highlighting the realism and intensity of fight scenes. - Reflections on character development and thematic depth in Terminator 2, particularly in relation to the T-800's evolution. 18:29 *🎥 Movie marketing and character portrayal* - Discussion on movie marketing revealing character roles. 19:58 *🔧 Character aging and scene analysis* - Observations on Edward Furlong's aging throughout the film. 21:13 *🏥 Sarah Connor's character development* - Discussion on Sarah Connor's character evolution. 22:26 *💥 Behind-the-scenes insights and historical context* - Insights into behind-the-scenes anecdotes during filming. 23:29 *🎞️ Opening sequences and film reception* - Comparison of opening sequences between "Terminator 2" and "Terminator: Dark Fate." 24:52 *🤔 Psychological dynamics and character analysis* - Analysis of psychological dynamics between Sarah Connor and Dr. Silberman. 27:24 *🕹️ Cultural impact and visual effects* - Reflections on the cultural impact of "Terminator 2" in media and technology. 29:24 *👨👩👦 Extended cut and character depth* - Comparison of character depth between theatrical and extended cuts. 30:36 *🚲 Action sequences and production details* - Analysis of action sequences and production challenges. 32:40 *🎮 Easter eggs and continuity errors* - Identification of Easter eggs and arcade game references in the film. 39:19 *🎥 Visual Effects and Casting* - Discussion on the groundbreaking visual effects of the liquid metal Terminator. 41:45 *🎭 Acting and Performance* - Analysis of Ed Furlong's acting style and portrayal of John Connor. 45:19 *🔍 Plot Details and Character Dynamics* - Discussion on plot changes and character revelations, including the significance of the T-1000's realization. 50:42 *🧠 AI Learning and Technological Evolution* - Reflections on the concept of the Terminator's learning capabilities and its portrayal in the film. 54:37 *💥 Action Sequences and Humor* - Appreciation of action sequences, including memorable moments like the T-800 stepping over the burning T-1000. 59:08 *🎬 Movie censorship and cultural context* - Discussion about censorship of violent scenes in movies by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC). 01:01:06 *🎥 Commentary on filmmaking techniques* - Appreciation of special effects, particularly the scene where the T-1000's hand gets trapped. 01:06:29 *🌟 Actor performances and director influence* - Discussion on actors' performances in action movies and their collaboration with directors. 01:19:15 *🏠 Discussion on filming locations and set design* - The discussion covers the use of filming locations, specifically the house used in the movie and its interior remodeling. 01:20:42 *🤖 Reflections on Miles Dyson's character and thematic connections* - Analysis of Miles Dyson's character development and portrayal in the film. 01:23:00 *🔬 Speculation on Stanley Kubrick's interpretation of "Terminator"* - Contemplation on how Stanley Kubrick might have approached directing a "Terminator" film. 01:26:10 *💥 Discussion on gun usage in the film and directorial sensitivity* - Insight into James Cameron's stance on gun usage in films, particularly in action sequences. 01:29:08 *🎬 Commentary on pacing and memorable sequences* - Analysis of pacing in action films, focusing on the balance between exposition and action. 01:38:04 *🎬 Discussion on Ron Howard's involvement in Star Wars and his directorial skills* - Ron Howard's potential in directing a Star Wars film is recognized, despite his involvement in a box office flop like "Solo". 01:39:24 *🎭 Appreciation for Joe Morton's acting career and filmography* - Recognition of Joe Morton's talent and notable performances in various films. 01:40:28 *📀 Discussion on the multiple releases of "Terminator 2" on different home video formats* - Exploration of the extensive release history of "Terminator 2" across various formats, including laser disc, DVD, and Blu-ray. 01:41:54 *🔊 Analysis of sound design and visual aesthetics in "Terminator 2"* - Appreciation for the intricate sound design and visual style of "Terminator 2", contributing to its cinematic impact. 01:49:23 *🎨 Commentary on iconic visual elements and action figures of "Terminator 2"* - Discussion on memorable visual elements like the Terminator's iconic appearance and the Skynet building's design. 01:52:02 *🎥 Exploration of stunt work and safety concerns in action films, particularly in Hong Kong cinema* - Reflection on the extreme risks taken by stunt performers in Hong Kong cinema, showcasing examples of daring stunts from various films. 01:57:22 *🎬 Commentary on action movie tropes and tension-building techniques* - Commentary on action movie tropes and clichés, 01:59:00 *🎥 Practical effects and editing complexity in Terminator 2* - Discussion on practical effects and stunt work, 02:01:30 *🎶 Musical cues and callbacks in action sequences* - Analysis of musical cues enhancing action scenes, 02:04:26 *🚁 Helicopter stunt and cinematography discussion* - Discussion on the complexity and risk of helicopter stunts, 02:07:40 *💥 Analysis of action choreography and special effects* - Commentary on the quality of action choreography and stunt work, - Discussion on special effects innovations and their influence on the industry, 02:20:08 *🌩️ The significance of lightning effects in classic movies* - Lightning effects were integral in classic films like Terminator 2, adding to the fantasy and atmosphere. 02:21:12 *🎬 Discussion on various movie monologues and memorable scenes* - Mention of William Shatner's hyperbolic monologue in "Devil's Revenge" and its impact. 02:22:18 *💿 Collectors' items and nostalgia for classic movies* - Discussion on collecting movie memorabilia, like laser discs, and the appeal of owning collector's items. 02:24:30 *🔄 Speculation on alternative casting choices for iconic movie roles* - Debate on the idea of Michael Biehn playing the T1000 in Terminator 2 and its potential impact on the narrative. 02:25:55 *🤖 Evaluation of different Terminator franchise installments* - Personal opinions on various Terminator films, including enjoyment of "Terminator Salvation" and dissatisfaction with "Terminator Genesis." 02:27:13 *👁️ Observations on special effects and makeup in movies* - Analysis of special effects and makeup in Terminator 2, including discussions on the design of the T-800's robotic eye and comparisons with other films like RoboCop. 02:29:06 *🎬 Reflections on movie endings and narrative closure* - Discussion on preferred narrative endings in films, ranging from immediate closures to extended epilogues. 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2:33:15 Pretty sure that on the DVD commentary, Cameron says he prefers this cut over the theatrical. Or am I confusing it with the Aliens commentary? 🤔
What's interesting is that they dubbed in two stroke noises. The actual model of the bike that John owned came with a four cycle engine. Although John did mention he knew about engines. Perhaps he did an engine swap.
The Pescadero building was a real closed hospital, which had been used in many productions. They did a lot of work on the interior so it looks very different in this compared to everything else.
The only movie a saw 5x. One time with my best friends, with my parents, 3x in different theaters by myself! This was such a phenomenal sequel, everybody went to see it, never new at the time they would make another one. And Arnie got in shape again. Great times.
The Terminator, T2, Aliens, Robocop, Predator, Mad Max II etc etc. Being a kid in the early 90s was all about watching amazing action movies we really shouldn't have been watching. Good times! T2 is such a great sequel. I prefer the original but this is such an entertaining film. My only gripe is that Linda Hamilton narration when John plays with the T800. It's just so corny - the negative side of Cameron.
I remember seeing this when I was 16. It's my favourite movie of all time. It's the only film that had me thinking about the film days after I had seen it. It totally blew me away, the t-1000 effects were incredible, the music, the acting. Everything for me was just perfect. I literally cannot find a fault with the film.
The only reason I don’t feel like watching T2 is when I remind myself that Arnold’s character sacrifices himself at the end. Always has been and always will be an emotional moment for me. I still tear up till this day just by thinking about it.
The chicken place Courtney Cox works at in Masters of the Universe has to be next to the bar in this movie because director Gary Goddard said the Rodney King beating happened in front of there too.
Loving all of these commentary videos. They give me just another reason to watch one of my favorites while I listen to these fellas talk through what makes them great. Thanks for posting these?!
Thanks for this T2 and The are unparalleled. Great commentary and I would love a Dark Fate one from you guys. I honestly think it's the best post-T2 sequel.
Are you guys in cahoots with the streaming services or something. Whenever there's a new commentary the movie is suddenly nowhere to be found on any live services and i end up going to TPB to watch it lmao. I love your work but I'd rather not rent a movie for 9.99 on amazon that i've already paid for over the years at least half a dozen times through various channels
T2 works having essentially the same plot as he first movie because the theme is flipped upside down in the sequel. In T2 the machine becomes more human and Sarah becomes a cold blooded stalker who almost murders Dyson to change the future - what is Skynet trying to do? Kill John Connor before he can become a leader and save the future. What is Sarah trying to do? Kill Dyson before he can give birth to Skynet. And she goes in like a merciless Terminator. There's so much incredible irony in it all. This is why T2 works despite being so similar to T1 on the surface.
I don’t understand why T1000 did not kill Sarah Connor, but chose to only stab her in the shoulder and request her to call to John. He could’ve called to John himself without Sarah after he stabbed her. For some reason he spares her life. That’s what ends up getting him killed.
I'd assumed it was because it was aware that it's shape-changing ability was compromised (after defrosting!) and it couldn't guarantee a copy that would fool John. In the original script when it does imitate Sarah it's feet are supposed to merge with the metal floor which is how John knows it's an imposter (this remains in the novelisation which also has more content that was never shot - eg breaking into the Skynet facility in the future).
Been looking forward to this. The 2015 region A Bluray is the best looking home version of the film still. Remember my first DVD import was the region 1 Ultimate Edition of this film as I got tired of waiting for it to get a U.K. release.
I think the eye works simply for the fact that T-1000 wrecked T-800's face with the heavy swinging thing so no wonder the eye and that area is bent etc Someone on youtube did cgi replacement for the eye and to me while it looks nice it doesnt work when its meant to be quite broken.
I love the use of that highway at night shot to end the movie. It takes us back to Sarahs narration to that scene leading up to Cyberdyne. It makes the ending narration into a beautiful book end. Thats why the future paradise of 2029 will never work. Its not a perfect book end. Its totally out of place for the whole franchise.
😂I had the Terminator car as a kid. Always wanted the cyrochamber thing but was too dear. Got the car and a couple of others from B&M Bargains. The 12” Arnie was the best tho as it had the mini gun and would say phrases. Was movie accurate but the smaller ones were just nuts. Cowboy George is the name of the A-Team episode with Culture Club in it. It’s fantastic. The Bluray boxset is great well worth getting.
Oh my god, opening Dark Fate with Sarah's nut-house speech, it was the stupidest idea in all of Terminator history, counting in every second of Genisys.
I first saw this movie sometime around ‘98 in the back seat of my neighbors car who had Alpine tv’s in the headrests. Initially drawn in by the fact they had tv’s in their car, my focus quickly turned to the incredible movie I was watching on them. Before long we decided to just go inside the house and watch it on a proper screen 😄
My brother in Law got me into the cinema. I was like 13 i guess it was Terminator movie night 1st and 2nd part in a row..i was so proud...great memories . love u my black brother Jean Paul for that night ....u fell asleep in the first part....
The audience absolutely knew at the beginning that Arnie is the good terminator and robert patrick is the bad guy; 1, it was spoiled in the trailers, 2 EVERYONE was talking about it and people didn't care that much about spoilers then, 3. Even if you knew nothing, the fact that the first thing Robert Patrick does is kill a cop, versus Arnie merely decking the shit out of some no good lousy biker types, marks him out as the bad guy.
I read a while back that Brad Fiedel sampled a lot of clanging of metal objects for the soundtrack, so it wasn't just synths, there were a lot of real world sounds in it, something I don't think anyone else has done since. The only composer that I know of that could probably do it justice would be Hans Zimmer.
If I remember correctly older special effects look off because of the scan processing. Someone mentioned the effects looked better in cinema because they were projected. Funnily enough it was brought up in T3 commentary (the quasy T1000 flying through stone scene).
Still in my top 10 of films. Seeing this on release at university ... just wow. Went to go and see it about 5 times again. Just a complete 'world building' film.
Much as I love this movie, I always hated Furlong, just too annoying to me even if that was a deliberate choice. Must admit I had a little chuckle at the start of Dark Fate…
T2 is still amazing, but sadly for me it’s somewhat diminished by all the copycat sequels that came out after it. They kept regurgitating the same iconography over and over again, robbing T2 of its power. In that fair to T2? Nope, but that’s what happens - for me anyway - when something is treated as a franchise. Stuff needs to stay finite to stay special.
@@LoganWood121 It's not so much sequels being bad, though that doesn't help. It's more those follow ups repeating the same things over and over again and diminishing what came before. I dunno, it's hard for me to articulate on account of being a bit of a dumb ass. But in the case of Terminator, the name has come to define madness. From T3 onwards, they were constantly made to be "the first in a new trilogy." And each time they failed, nobody learned anything and repeated the same mistake. The hubris. The arrogance. It cheapened the brand.
Ironically, James Ferman of the BBFC was American. I have to point out that Mary Whitehouse was the real puritan monster of entertainment. Once she was out of the way things really loosened up.
This is ironically just like the Alien films. Two great ones and the rest are just garbage. Terminator 3 is bland and unnecessary at best. 4 is again just a waste of time although I did like that there was no time travel which I'm sick of. The last two films were properly terrible. Another series that should have never been a franchise.
I remember seeing T2 in the theater in 1991 when I was 13 years old. I grew up in a suburb of L.A. and I currently work in the area where the scenes of John being chased on his motorcycle by the T1000 in the semi truck were shot. It has to be one of my favorite nostalgic cinema experiences from my youth. Thanks for giving me a great excuse to watch it for the zillionth time.
Nice. I live in carson. Ever seen a movie called jackie brown? There's a scene where robert deniro shoots a woman in the parking lot of del amo mall in torrance. I saw that movie in the movie theater that used to be at del amo mall and our car was parked in the same parking lot where deniro smoked her lmao. Was a trip to watch
Fuck yeah dude! I saw it opening night same age. It was Beyond all expectations.
Saw it opening night, went on to watch it 13 times. No other movie had such an effect on me.
James Cameron just threw shade at you and anyone else that viewed the movie in 1991. He said in a very recent interview that the original T2 audience are either "dead, retired, crippled or have dementia". In relation to how no one showed up to watch Dark Fate. Cameron is so passive-agressive these days.
Thought it was an 18? How did you get in?
10:08 Problem Child 2, released the same day as Terminator 2, predominantly used Bad to the Bone. It was also used for the opening credits of the first Problem Child. There’s also a story Bill Wisher tells where he suggested that song when they were writing it and Cameron refused. When T2 was being editing, Cameron showed Wisher this scene cut to Bad to the Bone and claimed it was his idea. Wisher knew better than to start an argument with Cameron and didn’t say anything since he won the argument with this being in the final film.
Omg. Problem child. I haven't heard of that movie in 30 years!!!! Thanks for that
T2 was one my favourite films as a kid, I probably watched it at least 50 times back then 😅 but haven't seen it in 15-20 years. As an adult I enjoy T1 more and I watch it fairly regularly.
Thanks to you I rediscovered this amazing film, watching it again after so many years felt like going back to my childhood, 'going home'. You guys did a great commentary, keep it up! 😁
Gibbons come on man you can't leave the desk like that! Gibbons!... Oh shit!
I love the fact that it's implied he does it all the time. Even these minor characters have a little backstory.
I always felt that the desert/prepper scenes were the most interesting, especially after having watched the movie many times over (quite the opposite of your opinion). They always seemed to me to be the part of the narrative that was the most fertile ground for the kinds of extra-canonical supportive spin-off story telling that franchise nerds like us would look for in novels, comics, and of course the TV show. I always wondered about how Sarah formed her relationship with the community there, for example, or how she gave birth to John and then subsequently educated him.
I want to see the deleted scene of the T800 trying to get into the mall's back corridor but is unable to make the combi-lock on the staff door work & needs to wait for the duty manager to bring the janitor with a mad huge key fob chained to a brick....
Thank you for doing this. Really enjoyed listening. Know T2 so well don't need to watch the film to see the scenes 😂
This films opening really packed a punch with the Terminator crunching on the skull followed by the exposed endoskeleton eyes scanning for human life.
Great commentary, thanks guys.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:26 *🎬 Commentary introduction and film background*
- Introduction to the commentary on Terminator 2: Judgment Day Special Edition.
- Background information on the film's production and initial reception.
02:09 *🎥 Opening sequence and filmmaking insights*
- Analysis of the iconic opening sequence depicting a post-apocalyptic Los Angeles.
- Details about the production, including the use of practical effects and miniature work.
04:05 *🎵 Musical score and thematic resonance*
- Appreciation for Brad Fiedel's iconic musical score and its thematic resonance with the film's apocalyptic setting.
- Comparison of the music in Terminator 2 with subsequent Terminator sequels.
06:22 *📽️ Influence of Mad Max and genre conventions*
- Examination of Mad Max's influence on the post-apocalyptic genre and filmmaking industry.
- Discussion on the formulaic nature of Terminator sequels and their adherence to genre conventions.
08:01 *🏙️ Filming locations and historical context*
- Insight into filming locations, including the significance of a bar adjacent to the Rodney King incident.
- Anecdotes about real-world events coinciding with the production of certain scenes.
09:27 *💪 Physicality of actors and character portrayal*
- Analysis of the physicality of actors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Robert Patrick in their respective roles.
- Comparison of Schwarzenegger's portrayal of the Terminator across different films.
11:26 *🎬 Directorial choices and narrative pacing*
- Examination of director James Cameron's choices in the Special Edition cut compared to the theatrical release.
- Discussion on pacing differences and the impact on audience engagement.
12:51 *🔪 Production details and behind-the-scenes anecdotes*
- Behind-the-scenes anecdotes about production challenges, including the removal of a digital "willy" from a scene.
- Insight into editorial decisions and conflicts between editors and director James Cameron.
14:14 *🎭 Acting performances and character nuances*
- Analysis of Robert Patrick's performance and character nuances as the T-1000.
16:04 *🏢 Set design and production authenticity*
- Discussion on the authenticity of set design, including the repurposing of an office building to depict a mental institution.
17:34 *💥 Action sequences and choreography*
- Analysis of action sequences and choreography, highlighting the realism and intensity of fight scenes.
- Reflections on character development and thematic depth in Terminator 2, particularly in relation to the T-800's evolution.
18:29 *🎥 Movie marketing and character portrayal*
- Discussion on movie marketing revealing character roles.
19:58 *🔧 Character aging and scene analysis*
- Observations on Edward Furlong's aging throughout the film.
21:13 *🏥 Sarah Connor's character development*
- Discussion on Sarah Connor's character evolution.
22:26 *💥 Behind-the-scenes insights and historical context*
- Insights into behind-the-scenes anecdotes during filming.
23:29 *🎞️ Opening sequences and film reception*
- Comparison of opening sequences between "Terminator 2" and "Terminator: Dark Fate."
24:52 *🤔 Psychological dynamics and character analysis*
- Analysis of psychological dynamics between Sarah Connor and Dr. Silberman.
27:24 *🕹️ Cultural impact and visual effects*
- Reflections on the cultural impact of "Terminator 2" in media and technology.
29:24 *👨👩👦 Extended cut and character depth*
- Comparison of character depth between theatrical and extended cuts.
30:36 *🚲 Action sequences and production details*
- Analysis of action sequences and production challenges.
32:40 *🎮 Easter eggs and continuity errors*
- Identification of Easter eggs and arcade game references in the film.
39:19 *🎥 Visual Effects and Casting*
- Discussion on the groundbreaking visual effects of the liquid metal Terminator.
41:45 *🎭 Acting and Performance*
- Analysis of Ed Furlong's acting style and portrayal of John Connor.
45:19 *🔍 Plot Details and Character Dynamics*
- Discussion on plot changes and character revelations, including the significance of the T-1000's realization.
50:42 *🧠 AI Learning and Technological Evolution*
- Reflections on the concept of the Terminator's learning capabilities and its portrayal in the film.
54:37 *💥 Action Sequences and Humor*
- Appreciation of action sequences, including memorable moments like the T-800 stepping over the burning T-1000.
59:08 *🎬 Movie censorship and cultural context*
- Discussion about censorship of violent scenes in movies by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC).
01:01:06 *🎥 Commentary on filmmaking techniques*
- Appreciation of special effects, particularly the scene where the T-1000's hand gets trapped.
01:06:29 *🌟 Actor performances and director influence*
- Discussion on actors' performances in action movies and their collaboration with directors.
01:19:15 *🏠 Discussion on filming locations and set design*
- The discussion covers the use of filming locations, specifically the house used in the movie and its interior remodeling.
01:20:42 *🤖 Reflections on Miles Dyson's character and thematic connections*
- Analysis of Miles Dyson's character development and portrayal in the film.
01:23:00 *🔬 Speculation on Stanley Kubrick's interpretation of "Terminator"*
- Contemplation on how Stanley Kubrick might have approached directing a "Terminator" film.
01:26:10 *💥 Discussion on gun usage in the film and directorial sensitivity*
- Insight into James Cameron's stance on gun usage in films, particularly in action sequences.
01:29:08 *🎬 Commentary on pacing and memorable sequences*
- Analysis of pacing in action films, focusing on the balance between exposition and action.
01:38:04 *🎬 Discussion on Ron Howard's involvement in Star Wars and his directorial skills*
- Ron Howard's potential in directing a Star Wars film is recognized, despite his involvement in a box office flop like "Solo".
01:39:24 *🎭 Appreciation for Joe Morton's acting career and filmography*
- Recognition of Joe Morton's talent and notable performances in various films.
01:40:28 *📀 Discussion on the multiple releases of "Terminator 2" on different home video formats*
- Exploration of the extensive release history of "Terminator 2" across various formats, including laser disc, DVD, and Blu-ray.
01:41:54 *🔊 Analysis of sound design and visual aesthetics in "Terminator 2"*
- Appreciation for the intricate sound design and visual style of "Terminator 2", contributing to its cinematic impact.
01:49:23 *🎨 Commentary on iconic visual elements and action figures of "Terminator 2"*
- Discussion on memorable visual elements like the Terminator's iconic appearance and the Skynet building's design.
01:52:02 *🎥 Exploration of stunt work and safety concerns in action films, particularly in Hong Kong cinema*
- Reflection on the extreme risks taken by stunt performers in Hong Kong cinema, showcasing examples of daring stunts from various films.
01:57:22 *🎬 Commentary on action movie tropes and tension-building techniques*
- Commentary on action movie tropes and clichés,
01:59:00 *🎥 Practical effects and editing complexity in Terminator 2*
- Discussion on practical effects and stunt work,
02:01:30 *🎶 Musical cues and callbacks in action sequences*
- Analysis of musical cues enhancing action scenes,
02:04:26 *🚁 Helicopter stunt and cinematography discussion*
- Discussion on the complexity and risk of helicopter stunts,
02:07:40 *💥 Analysis of action choreography and special effects*
- Commentary on the quality of action choreography and stunt work,
- Discussion on special effects innovations and their influence on the industry,
02:20:08 *🌩️ The significance of lightning effects in classic movies*
- Lightning effects were integral in classic films like Terminator 2, adding to the fantasy and atmosphere.
02:21:12 *🎬 Discussion on various movie monologues and memorable scenes*
- Mention of William Shatner's hyperbolic monologue in "Devil's Revenge" and its impact.
02:22:18 *💿 Collectors' items and nostalgia for classic movies*
- Discussion on collecting movie memorabilia, like laser discs, and the appeal of owning collector's items.
02:24:30 *🔄 Speculation on alternative casting choices for iconic movie roles*
- Debate on the idea of Michael Biehn playing the T1000 in Terminator 2 and its potential impact on the narrative.
02:25:55 *🤖 Evaluation of different Terminator franchise installments*
- Personal opinions on various Terminator films, including enjoyment of "Terminator Salvation" and dissatisfaction with "Terminator Genesis."
02:27:13 *👁️ Observations on special effects and makeup in movies*
- Analysis of special effects and makeup in Terminator 2, including discussions on the design of the T-800's robotic eye and comparisons with other films like RoboCop.
02:29:06 *🎬 Reflections on movie endings and narrative closure*
- Discussion on preferred narrative endings in films, ranging from immediate closures to extended epilogues.
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2:33:15 Pretty sure that on the DVD commentary, Cameron says he prefers this cut over the theatrical. Or am I confusing it with the Aliens commentary? 🤔
Loved the commentary track!
My second favourite movie after Aliens. Die Hard is my third favourite movie.
I always did love the scene of John Connor being chased on his little 2 stroke scrambler with its 26 speed gearbox…… 🤔😉😆
What's interesting is that they dubbed in two stroke noises. The actual model of the bike that John owned came with a four cycle engine.
Although John did mention he knew about engines. Perhaps he did an engine swap.
Total Recall was Carolco too 😊
The Pescadero building was a real closed hospital, which had been used in many productions. They did a lot of work on the interior so it looks very different in this compared to everything else.
The only movie a saw 5x.
One time with my best friends, with my parents, 3x in different theaters by myself! This was such a phenomenal sequel, everybody went to see it, never new at the time they would make another one. And Arnie got in shape again. Great times.
Thanks for the commentary. I prefer the original Terminator, but the sequel is so well done!
Ooh, that's tonight's film chosen. Thanks chaps.
The Terminator, T2, Aliens, Robocop, Predator, Mad Max II etc etc. Being a kid in the early 90s was all about watching amazing action movies we really shouldn't have been watching. Good times! T2 is such a great sequel. I prefer the original but this is such an entertaining film. My only gripe is that Linda Hamilton narration when John plays with the T800. It's just so corny - the negative side of Cameron.
We watched them all as kids in the late 90s too.
I remember seeing this when I was 16. It's my favourite movie of all time. It's the only film that had me thinking about the film days after I had seen it. It totally blew me away, the t-1000 effects were incredible, the music, the acting. Everything for me was just perfect. I literally cannot find a fault with the film.
The only reason I don’t feel like watching T2 is when I remind myself that Arnold’s character sacrifices himself at the end. Always has been and always will be an emotional moment for me. I still tear up till this day just by thinking about it.
@@SolidPain6624 Oh man, yeah that gets me every time. "I know now why you cry, but it is something I could never do" 😢😢
@@daveishereuk other than that just a near perfect movie. It hit me hard as a kid and even harder as an adult.
Wonderfully entertaining commentary, and amazing restraint to not sign off with “Hasta la vista.”
The chicken place Courtney Cox works at in Masters of the Universe has to be next to the bar in this movie because director Gary Goddard said the Rodney King beating happened in front of there too.
2:23:37
Apparently, that's Cameron doing all the screams and shrieking for the T-1000 dying.
Oliver, loving the Terminator commentaries with Rob Hill and I can't wait for your opinions on the non-Cameron ones. 👍
Loving all of these commentary videos. They give me just another reason to watch one of my favorites while I listen to these fellas talk through what makes them great. Thanks for posting these?!
True lies next gents? Or better still, total recall.
Now that the 4K is out would be great to hear their thoughts on that transfer too
Miles doesnt do a lot but after several times watching T2, he really leaves his mark. His death makes me cry every time now
I've been waiting for this one!! ;)
You two have a great chemistry and top channels as well!
Waited for this so long and great to see Rob as co host!!!
Thank you both for this its so cooool....brainscan was a great movie..
I love these commentaries, chaps.
Yeeee CARNOSAUR 2 mention! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Rob is truly the Bad Movie Bible.
2:16:47 It goes to the fudge room.
oliver do you ever go to conventions in uk?
Thanks for this T2 and The are unparalleled. Great commentary and I would love a Dark Fate one from you guys. I honestly think it's the best post-T2 sequel.
What an L take.
Are you guys in cahoots with the streaming services or something. Whenever there's a new commentary the movie is suddenly nowhere to be found on any live services and i end up going to TPB to watch it lmao.
I love your work but I'd rather not rent a movie for 9.99 on amazon that i've already paid for over the years at least half a dozen times through various channels
I'm with you man. Searching the Torrents.
I’ve been absolutely loving these commentaries - thanks boys!
T2 works having essentially the same plot as he first movie because the theme is flipped upside down in the sequel. In T2 the machine becomes more human and Sarah becomes a cold blooded stalker who almost murders Dyson to change the future - what is Skynet trying to do? Kill John Connor before he can become a leader and save the future. What is Sarah trying to do? Kill Dyson before he can give birth to Skynet. And she goes in like a merciless Terminator. There's so much incredible irony in it all. This is why T2 works despite being so similar to T1 on the surface.
That X-Files trashing was outrageous!
Classic fucking show. Lol.
You need to watch Fubar with Arnold
It was such a disappointment. His daughter was a babe in it tho
I don’t understand why T1000 did not kill Sarah Connor, but chose to only stab her in the shoulder and request her to call to John. He could’ve called to John himself without Sarah after he stabbed her. For some reason he spares her life. That’s what ends up getting him killed.
Especially since the Terminator said earlier in the movie that a copied subject is killed
@@henrick589 yep!
I'd assumed it was because it was aware that it's shape-changing ability was compromised (after defrosting!) and it couldn't guarantee a copy that would fool John. In the original script when it does imitate Sarah it's feet are supposed to merge with the metal floor which is how John knows it's an imposter (this remains in the novelisation which also has more content that was never shot - eg breaking into the Skynet facility in the future).
Hes malfuncting. He doesnt trust his abilities
@@jacobturnerartsomeone did the audio version on TH-cam of the novel and it goes into much more detail, which is great for a terminator nerd 😂
Did you guys get the chance to watch the 3d conversion of this film? It was absolutely beautifully executed - somehow!
Been looking forward to this. The 2015 region A Bluray is the best looking home version of the film still. Remember my first DVD import was the region 1 Ultimate Edition of this film as I got tired of waiting for it to get a U.K. release.
I think the eye works simply for the fact that T-1000 wrecked T-800's face with the heavy swinging thing so no wonder the eye and that area is bent etc
Someone on youtube did cgi replacement for the eye and to me while it looks nice it doesnt work when its meant to be quite broken.
Does anyone even watch the ultimate cut? Don’t think they exist…
I would sync this up with one of my to laserdisc copies but i would have to resync every time i switched platters.
I love the use of that highway at night shot to end the movie. It takes us back to Sarahs narration to that scene leading up to Cyberdyne. It makes the ending narration into a beautiful book end. Thats why the future paradise of 2029 will never work. Its not a perfect book end. Its totally out of place for the whole franchise.
...Watching it now; it's on BBC America channel.
I was 13 when I went to see this and I can’t believe they let me with no adult over 18 with us . Good times 😊
😂I had the Terminator car as a kid. Always wanted the cyrochamber thing but was too dear. Got the car and a couple of others from B&M Bargains. The 12” Arnie was the best tho as it had the mini gun and would say phrases. Was movie accurate but the smaller ones were just nuts.
Cowboy George is the name of the A-Team episode with Culture Club in it. It’s fantastic. The Bluray boxset is great well worth getting.
We need to give extended edition a proper 4k remastering 😢
Face was once shot in the A-Team.
Oh my god, opening Dark Fate with Sarah's nut-house speech, it was the stupidest idea in all of Terminator history, counting in every second of Genisys.
I first saw this movie sometime around ‘98 in the back seat of my neighbors car who had Alpine tv’s in the headrests. Initially drawn in by the fact they had tv’s in their car, my focus quickly turned to the incredible movie I was watching on them. Before long we decided to just go inside the house and watch it on a proper screen 😄
The GOAT action movie.
The editing in this movie was key.
Ironic being that Ferman was thougt to be a liberalist with allowing certain film releases. And was born in the US.
I saw ghostbusters 8 times, i used to know the entire movie.
My brother in Law got me into the cinema. I was like 13 i guess it was Terminator movie night 1st and 2nd part in a row..i was so proud...great memories . love u my black brother Jean Paul for that night ....u fell asleep in the first part....
When a terminator is sent out they have their chips set to follow instructions ie hunt and kill,by resetting the chip THEN it can learn
The audience absolutely knew at the beginning that Arnie is the good terminator and robert patrick is the bad guy; 1, it was spoiled in the trailers, 2 EVERYONE was talking about it and people didn't care that much about spoilers then, 3. Even if you knew nothing, the fact that the first thing Robert Patrick does is kill a cop, versus Arnie merely decking the shit out of some no good lousy biker types, marks him out as the bad guy.
Yes, and all magazines talked about it. And I remember the videoclip of You could be mine (Guns 'n Roses) where it gives away that twist too 😊
Isn't it funny how you have "Joe Morton" and "Immortan Joe". T2 and Mad Max: Fury Road having a few similarities.
I read a while back that Brad Fiedel sampled a lot of clanging of metal objects for the soundtrack, so it wasn't just synths, there were a lot of real world sounds in it, something I don't think anyone else has done since. The only composer that I know of that could probably do it justice would be Hans Zimmer.
I wish I could find the theatrical cut online, I don’t like the additions 😢
Point Break next???🌊
"That would be a waste of time..."
I love Rob
It’s missile command the arcade his playing
So true about Cameron, despite him doing some of the biggest grossing films since true lies I have zero interest in them 😂
Thank fuck denzel turned down that role. Way too assuming for that
If I remember correctly older special effects look off because of the scan processing. Someone mentioned the effects looked better in cinema because they were projected. Funnily enough it was brought up in T3 commentary (the quasy T1000 flying through stone scene).
Needy neddy guess he didn’t see me
Ginger girl who tells T1000 JC is at galleria is Nikki cox was in a few big shows and married bobcat the crazy one from police academy 😜
Still in my top 10 of films. Seeing this on release at university ... just wow. Went to go and see it about 5 times again. Just a complete 'world building' film.
LGR did a video on that handheld computer the kid uses.
Much as I love this movie, I always hated Furlong, just too annoying to me even if that was a deliberate choice. Must admit I had a little chuckle at the start of Dark Fate…
T2 is still amazing, but sadly for me it’s somewhat diminished by all the copycat sequels that came out after it. They kept regurgitating the same iconography over and over again, robbing T2 of its power.
In that fair to T2? Nope, but that’s what happens - for me anyway - when something is treated as a franchise. Stuff needs to stay finite to stay special.
That's really gotta suck for you with so many other great films with disappointing sequels.
@@LoganWood121 It's not so much sequels being bad, though that doesn't help.
It's more those follow ups repeating the same things over and over again and diminishing what came before. I dunno, it's hard for me to articulate on account of being a bit of a dumb ass.
But in the case of Terminator, the name has come to define madness. From T3 onwards, they were constantly made to be "the first in a new trilogy." And each time they failed, nobody learned anything and repeated the same mistake. The hubris. The arrogance. It cheapened the brand.
Wow i will be back later but this is quality. F kermode give me o.h anytime
Please look at The Omen franchise.
Ironically, James Ferman of the BBFC was American. I have to point out that Mary Whitehouse was the real puritan monster of entertainment. Once she was out of the way things really loosened up.
This is ironically just like the Alien films. Two great ones and the rest are just garbage. Terminator 3 is bland and unnecessary at best. 4 is again just a waste of time although I did like that there was no time travel which I'm sick of. The last two films were properly terrible. Another series that should have never been a franchise.
I think the shotgun reload is an homage to John Wayne, don’t know the movie
Its a callback to the show The Rifleman. He flip cocked a 30.-30 lever action rifle on horseback in the show.
Maybe he wasn't as big in Terminator 2 anymore because steroids were banned in the US in '90?
There's Terminator films to be made. But avoid all the other films. Go post apocalypse. Bugs me. It's on a plate.
I find ‘The Terminator’ movies tepid.