All the Meta history with data privacy aside, Threads not launching in the EU tells you everything you need to know about the intention of the image-less Instagram, and why it'll not be “killing Twitter“.
Its not privacy laws hindering Threads in the EU. It's monopoly laws. And Musk seems more concerned than you do. It's already made records. All liberals, including lost créatives, dont like what Musk did, so they had already stopped using Twitter as much. They just didn't have a decent alternative to make it really apparent. They do now. DESPITE hating Zuckerberg ALMOST as much.
It sucks because looking back I genuinely think Facebook used to be pretty great. I remember being in school and everyone would add everyone else in their yeargroup, you could contact anyone you went to school with, it was actually a useful social tool. It was a social media where you just added people you knew in real life and you would see what they were getting up to. I don't feel like I have that anymore which is sad
Yeah, it was great when the only people who could get on it were people who had a college email address. And then they let grandparents and children on and it rather quickly became an absolute cesspool.
@@shaneg9081 don’t think that that was the problem….it just coincided time-wise. The problem was/is the business model as well as the arrogance to think that the company and its algorithm know best what people would want. You could’ve easily left the ads on the sides and let companies pay a monthly fee for their presence/page on the site. The feed could have stayed all about your friends. Naturally, such a business model would have made far less money due to its much lower profit margins and revenue streams. The sad thing about it: Zuckerberg had a controlling stake for such a long time that he could have done these things against the will of the investors, when this is simply often not possible due to investors owning big chunks of start-ups. Then again, a person who’s definition of success are numbers, power and profits…no surprise that he made the decisions that he made.
Yes! and events for college clubs were great nothing has replaced that where u can go to a page and see if they have any events coming rather than scrolling and reading posts
@teen-at-heart An algorithm is just an algorithm. It doesn't turn a service into a cesspool unless the users are looking for garbage or putting garbage into the system. By and large alt right trolls, conspiracy theorists, and manoshpere dips don't go to college. If they had an education, they wouldn't fall for the craziness. If Facebook had simply stuck to the initial user base, it would not have become the greatest source of disinformation the world has ever seen. Those people might have still found each other in some numbers, but they wouldn't have had the power to be anywhere near as widespread as they are now.
I'm been on twitter a year after it launched, pruned it so I didn't see drama, used tweetbot, so a chronological feed and no ads. then Elon ruined it, then Reddit seemed to follow suit. So I was exited for Threads, preinstalled it, woke up Thursday morning, opened the app, no chronological feed, a ton of suggested posts that I've never shown any interest in, deleted it immediately, not going back, fuck Meta
What? Elon saved Twitter. It had become shit, dominated by corporate crap, with everyone knowing a blue check meant "bad take on current thing". It was a thing, you would say "yeah, it's a blue check". Anyone who said anything not approved by The Establishment would be banned. Even hinting at dissent would mean shadow ban, we would never see that person's tweets. So many leftie bullies proclaiming stupid opinions about everything. Even if you tried to avoid politics they were there. I had completely given up on it. So much better now.
I'm not on threads and will never join it as I do not need another app to be soaking up all of my attention but surely the reason why there wasn't anything interesting on it to start with is because not many people were on it yet? So yeah a bunch of suggested posts for things you aren't interested cos it takes time for things that you are interested in to be on it...
@@benfulford3943 I make you right, but it felt so much like insta and FB, both ruined by Ads, Suggested post and a terrible algorithm I instantly quit.
I was side eyeing FB over 12 years ago. After attending a marketing seminar, I was horrified. Their cavalier attitude towards privacy, data mining, and demographic exclusions were troubling. It still baffles me that companies refuse to respect people’s privacy preferences.
Facebook did me the greatest favor when one day, after having an account for over ten years, I couldn't log in and I got the message "We've determined you are not eligible to have an account" and they deleted me without any advance warning or explanation. So I didn't have the chance to notify any of my FB friends and contacts or save any of my photos or other saved materials. It was really tough but wow what a relief.
It surprises me that many people seem to forget that all social media are businesses looking to make a lot of money. What they care about is not whether you and I like or enjoy the experience, but the number of clicks and the money they make from it. The fact that FB is the way it is, indicates that there are apparently still enough people using it because otherwise there would have been an adjustment. In my opinion, the name social media is misleading because that is not at all the purpose of the companies behind FB, Twitter and alike. Connecting and sharing with each other is not a goal for them, but a business model.
They didn't start like that, when the internet started and Facebook was young, ads were a brucey bonus but more so the growth was driven as it transformed the way we interacted with each other - it was driven by user excitement and enthusiasm. Evan's exactly right, once we were all together in those places, the money signs started dinging and it's all been downhill since then (I'd say the notifications turning red did it 😅). I think there's just a part of a lot of us that are nostalgic for the genuine social connection you could feel.
Not all social media is businesses looking to make money. Open source federated social media has been growing loads in the last year or so. Mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin, etc.
Tumblr is unironically continuing to be the best run, best designed and least invasive, least capitalistic, least skeezy and most enjoyable social network platform with the most variety, the most content YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE and let's you choose whether you want your own cultivated feed as a DEFAULT or if you want a small smattering if suggestions, if you like. Plus, Automatic's tumblr Algorithm isn't terrible. It's actually really good and well designed so even if you do end up using it it doesn't completely swamp or inundate your carefully cultivated feed with stuff you don't want because it's actually using the information that was already there to show you things that are tagged correctly and linked together by genuine interest of actual real people. And the people running it and coding it actually understand what works about the platform and isn't trying to make it a carbon copy of anyone else. They have somewhat allowed more adult content back and they are doing amazing work! TumblrForTheWin!
The points you made about how Facebook has changed our feeds to become just random memes and ads from pages I don’t follow and products I don’t want or haven’t got any interest in absolutely nailed it. I’ve been fed up just scrolling endlessly through crap and not realising why, it’s such a habit now for me to just pull up Facebook and start scrolling and not even see any actual “content” aside from the news outlets I follow on there and the previous mentioned rubbish meme pages.
It was only this week my wife asked why I never like or comment on any of her Facebook posts and I told her I didn't she even made any - it turns out, it's no longer good enough to be friends with someone AND following them, to actually see their stuff you also need to FAVOURITE them too! Jeez.
Hey, it's kind of like having to click the Bell after hitting the Subscribe button on TH-cam to actually GET any updates about your subscribed channels' videos.... I remember the absolute SHITEstorm when the Bell was introduced, and now it's like it was always there... But yeah, at least TH-cam's Bell system pretty much works. Facebook's Wall system is totally messed - sometimes even Favouriting someone or selecting "see first" doesn't work right. Not to mention that to change any setting means navigating Facebook's ridiculously complicated UI.
I am still enraged by Instagram's lack of chronological feed. I used to love that app so much - I found fellow makers and made actual friends. Now I don't see anything from them as Instagram tells me I'm up to date, but lies because then I'll go and think 'hmm, I haven't seen anything from so and so in ages' and I'll look at their feed and there'll be ten posts I've missed, but it's shown me the same post from two weeks ago by an influencer every day for a week. And don't get me started on Facebook's showing you 'most relevant' comments as default - don't fecking decide what I think is relevant! I took one look at Threads, saw that it wasn't chronological (the one feature of Twitter that I liked) and noped right out of there.
THANK YOU. god ive been so skeptical about threads because im so used to seeing this happen. as well as ig morphing into more and more of an advertising platform over the years, i'm not sure why everyone is so quick to trust this too good to be true twitter clone
The trouble with Facebook is that they got so big and entrenched that they could afford to make it shittier and shittier because everyone would stay because of whoever else is one there that they still wanted to be connected with. They didn’t have to keep it good because people wouldn’t leave when it got worse and they were making money by making it worse.
Pretty much the only Social Media I use is this, Reddit, & Discord. Reddit, I stick to subreddits I actually like. Discord the same. Here I watch interesting vids about stuff I like, & tend to stick around when the creators heart or comment back to their subscribers, because it means they care xxx
Literally the only reason I still have a Facebook account is so that I can contact friends who still have an account if I ever want/need to. I will also occasionally open it when I am supremely bored, but it's never a good time.
@@eattherich9215 hard disagree. there are many people i have met online years ago and continue to hold a relationship because suprise! i put in work and made the decision to keep them in my life. i've even met a few of them in person. Sure, not every internet relationship will stand the test of time due to a weak basis. but there are some that are truly gems. I do agree with your point that a facebook feed of people you haven't spoken to in years might not constitute as friends. And that's one of the reasons i dislike facebook, if i want someone to know about my life, then i'll be actively talking to them and telling them. But to use the blanket statement that virtual friends can't exist is inaccurate.
I left all Metas products and Twitter at the end of last year. First of all, for privacy reasons and secondly, there were too many people that just gave me a bad mood that I wish I could grab through the screen. This is why I replaced 100% of all those apps with federated systems, even if that meant cutting off communications with some people. That's how frustrated I was back then. At least no company can control what I see and it's chronological, too ... by default :) Wouldn't wanna go back ... only in time, if that would be possible :D
You're my hero, I swear social media has contributed heavily to my anxiety but I'm just too weak minded to just stop using them. I wish I had your strength
@@lloroshastar6347 It's easier than you think. I left Twitter about seven years ago and Facebook about four years ago. My mental health immediately improved and I only missed the scroll addiction for a couple of days.
Yeah I only use Discord where I spend most times with private conversation and not servers, and only have Facebook Messenger installed to chat with people on Facebook, but not actually using the rest of Facebook.
I'm also a 90s kid and it's sad how social media is now. I use it to post my hobbies, interact with friends and family. Also be in a few suppert groups. Everything these days is about shorts or how to be viciously nasty to people because of their beliefs, disability, age, gender /sex/orientation etc. There is also a lot of people just advertising things that shouldn't be or showing people bad habits & saying its OK to do them. There's is no community or support how. I am a small channel so it's expected that I don't have many followers but I hate that TH-cam stops so many from seeing my videos because I don't have enough viewers to fit into their algorithm. Then again the world in real life may as well be the same as there is so many nasty, judgmental & vindictive people these days. So much has changed in 20 ywars (I'm 26 but I remember what was around when I was a kid). Hugs. Xx
Something I wasn't expecting from Threads is how good it is for showcasing photography. Photos just look way better on there than IG and with all of the horrendous changes that were made to IG it seems like photographers are transitioning to Threads in droves (or at least the ones I'm following).
I remember the fond days when all the different apps were an enjoyable place to be. I’m only keeping my Facebook alive because of all my photos on there. I mostly use Instagram to share photos of my makes with the sewist community but that’s being more and more drowned out by ads and shit I don’t want to see. And TH-cam is going the same way, forcing shorts onto me when I come here deliberately for the long form content. If I wanted shorts I’d go on TikTok 🙄
My social media activity is hitting like and occasionally commenting on TH-cam videos. 🤣 I developed social media burnout. I deleted them all. Thanks for another great video!
Ahhh remember when it had filters? When you could literally shut out the 80% of post types you didn’t care about? Those were good days. It was when they chose to remove that that I walked away.
There is always the option to quit social media when it doesn't serve you anymore, I feel like everyone feels like there are no alternatives. I think people would be happier if instead of begrugingly going on social media, they went to a library and borrowed a book, learned to crochet etc. Reducing my social media time worked well for me - those companies do not deserve your attention if they give nothing of value in return.
I don't trust Meta any longer now that they removed hashtags from Instagram as well. When searching for hashtags now, you only see the content Meta wants you to see. There is no way to sort by recently uploaded images with that hashtag. So now I can't find any new creators to connect with.
For me, Facebook lost its way when the "time line" became the algorithm based news feed. You could change the view, but it didn't stick. Then instagram did the same. That's why Twitter was better, until Elon got involved. Edit....which is what you then say...doh
I never cared about seeing what my friends were up to, as it usually wasn't particularly interesting. So I've unfollowed most of my friends, except some few that actually have something interesting to share.
tbh the weirdest thing about Facebook that I've noticed is the bizarre auto-flagging of content. I hate that I kinda wanted to support Threads, and I hate that pretty soon, googling it isn't going to turn up a horrific old British TV movie that scarred millions of people's brains.
For this video I shall like & subscribe 😆 Social media is dead tbh, or at least to me, it has been destroyed by greedy men wanting money -- as they strive to make as much money as they can, they are driving social media into the ground. The problem is that they're treating social media as a business when really it needs to be treated as the opposite 😂 Humans ruin everything 🤷🏼♀️
Great take. Honestly, it might be the last push for me to intentionally drop most of my social media. I dumped Twitter several years back and it felt so good.
Avoided facebook for years until I started travelling, then I found it amazing for keeping in touch with friends back home and following the adventures of the new people I met as I travelled. Only about 600 people on there as friends. Barely know anything of where they're travelling or what my friends are upto. Facebook doesn't show anything I joined it to see, just endless ads and memes I don't want. Absolute rubbish.
If only someone from Facebook would actually see this. My main gripe about all the platforms is that they are so big that it is literally impossible to contact them or make sensible suggestions or constructive critical comments.
I'm a millennial n never got a Facebook account because it always looked dodgy af to me. Then instagram came n I had a look at it via a friend n realised that it'd be pure crack for my adhd brain so I nopes out of this one as well. I genuinely never would have joined twitter either if tumblr hadn't crashed n burned (I really just wanna follow my artist buddies n show off my own art). N now a dozen new twitter replacements pop up n fight for the crown. I am exhausted. We all are. But if nothing else,I truly hope the crown doesn't go back to fucking Zuckerberg.
The problem with the algorithm, which is honestly the same on youtube (which I hate, but oh well), is that WE are the people giving it it's info. They give us 10sec reels, we hate it, but yet every day we still go down the rabbit hole of watching thousands of those videos. Even though we hate it, the fact that we are still using it and (over)consuming it, gives the algorithm the idea that we like it. It's not a human, it doesn't think like us. It only goes "people watch this, let's show it to more people" I personally think if we all decided to leave the apps because we hate it, then they would actually start making them better because how else would they get money? Nobody's using their shitty app
Glad to hear the start with MySpace, and yes this video was fun. Looking for and finding stuff like this helps me to feel the times are changing to our lessons learned and taking that with us. Thank you, amazing, love all the pointers and complaints explained very well.
For me, Threads is a depressing TV drama of a nuclear bomb dropped on Sheffield sometime back in the 1980s. So watch Zuckerberg’s Threads go much the same apocalyptic way.
Consider Mastodon. It's a better twitter, and a better "threads". This is only my point of view, but you know in a couple of years "threads" will just be yet another disaster just like anything else facebook touches, and betting on it now only makes you more bound by it later on.
I've never been into any social media. I have Facebook but I only have it to contact my friends, family and various hobby groups. Closest I got to getting into social media was Twitter, but I literally used that to RP in communities.
honestly, the more we complain about these ads and social media apps, nothing will change, it will only get worse as long as we continue to use it. The enemy of my enemy shouldn't be the way you make decisions because the enemy is unfortunately now...social media itself. As long as we're using it, we're supporting the terrible people behind it
Surprised to hear you say that Threads doesn’t have ads (yet). When I signed up (also to spite Musk) I spent the first view minutes blocking football after football group and just assumed these were ads because it’s the kind of unwanted garbage I’d normally see in Twitter. But apparently it was just what the algorithm thought a new member would want to see? I’m honestly not sure I believe that.
I was a pretty active user on Livejournal. Then Facebook came along and everybody switched. I took one look at that algorithm driven chaos, turned on my heel and never looked back.
Facebook rarely ever shows me stuff from my friends anymore. It sucks. It only shows me stuff from groups (and if you leave groups they try to show you stuff from random groups anyway), and it becomes just like any other social media app. I want to see what things people I know post. Not randoms.
RIP all the local social networks that had shut down 5 to 15 years ago, because they couldn't compete. In nostalgic memories, when we logged in these pages to chat with our friend and look at their pictures and blogs.
If those local social networks did manage to compete, they very likely and inevitably ended up turning to shit like all the social media that have managed to compete...
@@jdjphotographynl I honestly don't think they would've end up that badly. Those, that I used to use, did organise a lot of social events or had at least a booth or an event photographer at those events. It was merching both social aspects to extends you wanted to do. Data security laws in my country are very strict, so that probably would have been another aspect too. 🤷🏽♀️
I remember joining Facebook ca. 2005, when it was still just for collegiate connections - I'm old, lol. Nothing seemed threatening or bad about Facebook until it started to become bloated with ads and addictive pay-as-you-play games - ex. Farmville, which was the worst waste of time ever. That was around 2008 or 2009, I think? Something that you didn't touch on the regarding change from social media then vs. social media now is that before the iPhone, basically, no one was using using social media on their phone. The smartphone changed our relationship with social media to That Thing I Play Around With Sometimes on a Computer to It's Always There, Sending Its Siren Song from the Notifications Menu...And Even if I Silence It, It Stares Back at Me from the Home Screen... 😳 I'm still on Facebook, too. Not because it's so much fun to use, but because my friends are still there, posting updates. I also feel like if I erase too much of my social media, hiring managers may get suspicious. But maybe that's silly of me to think, IDK. I mean, I have a LinkedIn, what more do they really fricking need?
Thank you Evan for perfection explaining why I don't use Facebook anymore so I don't have to. 👏 I still can't delete it because if you delete Facebook it deletes Messenger and I do occasionally use that app to contact irl friends.
I don't have any Social Media anymore... it's toxic. I use TH-cam but don't upload anything. Removing Social Media from my life was the best decision I ever made. 2 years later and i'm much happier. ❤
I used to love Facebook for keeping up with what family members or friends were up to, now as Evan says I rarely see any posts from the people I want to see it’s all random posts or adverts that I constantly snooze or delete to have yet more crap appear!
Its a little emporer's new clothes - the marketers (FB etc all of them) 'we know more about what you like than you do' 'we will drive your information feed' Turns out - they don't - automatic feeds are terrible as you point out. Once the add sellers work it out - the cycle completes and the platform fades. TH-cam is on the same curve - just earlier perhaps.
Evan!!!! Bravo, my man. Bravo!! I too think it'll get to the point when I'm going to go completely offline (cept for have-do posts regarding my art and such) But I think the age of relying on the internet will come to an end in the not too far future. Amen to that!
I am very much enjoying your videos - especially your humour. You've persuaded me, at least about 75%, that Facebook has been damaging - it was so different back in the Noughties. I suppose the difference for me is that I am from Gen X, and a ton of my friends are still on Facebook, so it is still the fun place for me to connect and I do my best to filter out the negativity. I suppose the age group/generation and size of following has a significant impact on user experience - but I hope to enjoy these early days of Threads.
I go on TH-cam for creative content. I have fully disengaged with IRL people in my social sphere online, I only connect with them directly. And for online social spaces, I've been on discord since 2018. That's pretty much all I do anymore.
I used to love twitter. I joined in 2009 (always been an early adopter of social media apps) and it was fun. Getting to interact with my favourite celebrities and talk about whatever I was watching on TV etc. and I remember when Facebook was only for students at specific universities (joined early 2005 when I was at King’s College London). If somehow we could rewind the clock eh?
As Gen X (although maybe an unusual one?) I find it funny how many Millenials, are like "I won't go on TikTok" and also "I hate Meta/Facebook/Twitter". To me TikTok has felt a bit like the early days of TH-cam, and sure, it won't feel like that forever, and we'll have to jump ship again, but at least it's not Meta/Elon (yet). And it does feel fun (depending what part of it you're on of course). I'm sure it's as bad as the next thing, but it still feels fun. You're right about Murdoch/Zuckerberg, I hadn't thought of it in exactly those terms, but the similarity is uncanny now that you mention it.
I'm miserable because I'm an EU citizen who mostly uses twitter to follow Japanese creators, because twitter is where the Japanese creators are, but they're just as sick of twitter as everyone else and it seems like they're all joining Threads. The EU doesn't allow Threads because of major privacy issues. And I am all FOR the EU enforcing its privacy laws and not bending to the will of Meta and the other big players. But the thought of losing access to the content of all those people genuinely upsets me.
You know what? I could have gotten into Threads if a) there was anyone from he EU on there (rip) and b) I hadn't enjoyed the great same-ness of Tumblr for the last decade
Twitter has seemed pretty intent on driving everyone away. Just as Threads was launching, Twitter was restricting feed volume, Tweetdeck wasn't showing feeds, my feed on my phone was constantly filled with worthless ads, search wasn't working & they announced Tweetdeck was going to become a paid-only service. I had resisted Mastadon & Bluesky & any other Twitter-replacement, but I have become frustrated with the condition of Twitter even though I am following hundreds of accounts for specific news. Threads is my new fallback tool.
My biggest frustration with social media (and big tech, in general) is how strongly the algorithm wants you to dive deep down a rabbit hole. It makes me afraid to casually look into differing opinions. I watched a few (American) conservative videos, and now I get really sexist cartoon things all over FB (FB is how my family knows I am still alive and okay as I live far away from them).
*Pulls up a rocking chair* Back in the day, a lot (and I mean a *LOT*) of us used a social media platform called Livejournal. Livejournal was brilliant. There was a decent community for anything you wanted, populated by like-minded people that you could have rational conversations with. It had a brilliant FAQ section, it showed you baby step by baby step how to do things (these things usually involved an aspect of coding, so it was educational too). Then Facebook came along and some of us used them alongside each other, still leaning more towards Livejournal. But then Livejournal was bought by some Russian dudes (as far as we know) and everyone dropped it faster than you could say "Russia's after all the secrets!" or "hot coals burn!". But then the "powers that be" started tinkering with Facebook and ballsing it up for everyone, but there wasn't really anywhere to go now since Livejournal got bought out by these Russian blokes. Fast forward to all the talk about "Threads". The main thing that's missing, and that a lot of people in the UK that are around my age remember, is that in the mid 80's there was a mini-series of I think three episodes of a programme called "Threads". It aired at roughly the same time that "The Day After" aired on TV in the US (but "The Day After" was extremely tame in comparison to "Threads"). Bearing in mind that at that particular time we were still living under the threat of the Cold War and a nuclear missile attack at seemingly any time (true story, in my home town of Rotherham at least, every house had a leaflet dropped through the door on what the consequences of a nuclear strike might look like in relation to your geographical placing to the area the bomb dropped). The point I'm trying to make here is that "Threads" was about the result and consequences of a nuclear strike on Sheffield, the city nearest to where I lived in Rotherham. It was filmed in and around Sheffield and genuinely gave me nightmares for about a fortnight after it was aired - you should be still able to buy copies on DVD from Amazon. The mysterious "they" seem to not know that to a certain per centage of people living in the UK, the word, title or whatever you want to call it, "Threads" still sounds ominous and very scary.
Yeah, I've privately decided that when Threads launches in the EU, I'll finally delete my Insta account It sucks, because I have some mutuals that I'd like to stay in touch with, but messaging apps only won't be the same, having to ask about whats new for them, instead of just seeing it on their feed 😢
I absolutely despise scrolling through Instagram these days like 1/3 of it is ads another 1/3 is recommended stuff I don't follow or care about and then there's so so little of what I'm actually following left I hate it, not to mention the TikTokification like give me back my pictures I don't want it to be 99% videos I'm sick of it
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All the Meta history with data privacy aside, Threads not launching in the EU tells you everything you need to know about the intention of the image-less Instagram, and why it'll not be “killing Twitter“.
It’s not in the EU for now, but will be. (Although I do agree with you in the data privacy issue).
@@alessandrahull5637- the EU has stronger privacy and content laws; it will take longer to implement there to be compliant
@@danielcrafter9349 Yes.
it probably will though
Its not privacy laws hindering Threads in the EU. It's monopoly laws. And Musk seems more concerned than you do. It's already made records. All liberals, including lost créatives, dont like what Musk did, so they had already stopped using Twitter as much. They just didn't have a decent alternative to make it really apparent. They do now. DESPITE hating Zuckerberg ALMOST as much.
It sucks because looking back I genuinely think Facebook used to be pretty great. I remember being in school and everyone would add everyone else in their yeargroup, you could contact anyone you went to school with, it was actually a useful social tool. It was a social media where you just added people you knew in real life and you would see what they were getting up to. I don't feel like I have that anymore which is sad
Yeah, it was great when the only people who could get on it were people who had a college email address. And then they let grandparents and children on and it rather quickly became an absolute cesspool.
@@shaneg9081 don’t think that that was the problem….it just coincided time-wise. The problem was/is the business model as well as the arrogance to think that the company and its algorithm know best what people would want. You could’ve easily left the ads on the sides and let companies pay a monthly fee for their presence/page on the site. The feed could have stayed all about your friends. Naturally, such a business model would have made far less money due to its much lower profit margins and revenue streams. The sad thing about it: Zuckerberg had a controlling stake for such a long time that he could have done these things against the will of the investors, when this is simply often not possible due to investors owning big chunks of start-ups. Then again, a person who’s definition of success are numbers, power and profits…no surprise that he made the decisions that he made.
Yes! and events for college clubs were great nothing has replaced that where u can go to a page and see if they have any events coming rather than scrolling and reading posts
@teen-at-heart An algorithm is just an algorithm. It doesn't turn a service into a cesspool unless the users are looking for garbage or putting garbage into the system. By and large alt right trolls, conspiracy theorists, and manoshpere dips don't go to college. If they had an education, they wouldn't fall for the craziness. If Facebook had simply stuck to the initial user base, it would not have become the greatest source of disinformation the world has ever seen. Those people might have still found each other in some numbers, but they wouldn't have had the power to be anywhere near as widespread as they are now.
The worst is when I see a post from a friend on Facebook and the post is few days old and its the first time I'm seeing it.
"The enemy of my enemy is not a great friend of mine."
That should be the common phrase.
“You have to pay us to create content for us so we can make money” is literally the business model for academic journals
I'm been on twitter a year after it launched, pruned it so I didn't see drama, used tweetbot, so a chronological feed and no ads. then Elon ruined it, then Reddit seemed to follow suit. So I was exited for Threads, preinstalled it, woke up Thursday morning, opened the app, no chronological feed, a ton of suggested posts that I've never shown any interest in, deleted it immediately, not going back, fuck Meta
Deleting your threads account also deletes your insta too. Crazy
What? Elon saved Twitter. It had become shit, dominated by corporate crap, with everyone knowing a blue check meant "bad take on current thing". It was a thing, you would say "yeah, it's a blue check".
Anyone who said anything not approved by The Establishment would be banned. Even hinting at dissent would mean shadow ban, we would never see that person's tweets. So many leftie bullies proclaiming stupid opinions about everything. Even if you tried to avoid politics they were there. I had completely given up on it.
So much better now.
I'm not on threads and will never join it as I do not need another app to be soaking up all of my attention but surely the reason why there wasn't anything interesting on it to start with is because not many people were on it yet? So yeah a bunch of suggested posts for things you aren't interested cos it takes time for things that you are interested in to be on it...
@@benfulford3943 I make you right, but it felt so much like insta and FB, both ruined by Ads, Suggested post and a terrible algorithm I instantly quit.
I was side eyeing FB over 12 years ago. After attending a marketing seminar, I was horrified. Their cavalier attitude towards privacy, data mining, and demographic exclusions were troubling. It still baffles me that companies refuse to respect people’s privacy preferences.
As an artist, Meta / Facebook has always hit me with the vibe of “oh we will pay you in exposure” lol 😂 anyone else ever dealt with that
So apparently Facebook doesn't even pay in exposure. 0 views.
It's hard to find any genuine posts from Facebook friends in amongst all the ads and hidden stuff they don't let you see from friends anymore.
I remember when Friends Reunited was the big thing, yes I'm old!
Yep, me too.
School revisited 😀
Facebook did me the greatest favor when one day, after having an account for over ten years, I couldn't log in and I got the message "We've determined you are not eligible to have an account" and they deleted me without any advance warning or explanation. So I didn't have the chance to notify any of my FB friends and contacts or save any of my photos or other saved materials. It was really tough but wow what a relief.
It was actually a blessing in disguise!
It surprises me that many people seem to forget that all social media are businesses looking to make a lot of money. What they care about is not whether you and I like or enjoy the experience, but the number of clicks and the money they make from it. The fact that FB is the way it is, indicates that there are apparently still enough people using it because otherwise there would have been an adjustment.
In my opinion, the name social media is misleading because that is not at all the purpose of the companies behind FB, Twitter and alike. Connecting and sharing with each other is not a goal for them, but a business model.
They didn't start like that, when the internet started and Facebook was young, ads were a brucey bonus but more so the growth was driven as it transformed the way we interacted with each other - it was driven by user excitement and enthusiasm. Evan's exactly right, once we were all together in those places, the money signs started dinging and it's all been downhill since then (I'd say the notifications turning red did it 😅). I think there's just a part of a lot of us that are nostalgic for the genuine social connection you could feel.
Not all social media is businesses looking to make money. Open source federated social media has been growing loads in the last year or so. Mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin, etc.
Tumblr is unironically continuing to be the best run, best designed and least invasive, least capitalistic, least skeezy and most enjoyable social network platform with the most variety, the most content YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE and let's you choose whether you want your own cultivated feed as a DEFAULT or if you want a small smattering if suggestions, if you like. Plus, Automatic's tumblr Algorithm isn't terrible. It's actually really good and well designed so even if you do end up using it it doesn't completely swamp or inundate your carefully cultivated feed with stuff you don't want because it's actually using the information that was already there to show you things that are tagged correctly and linked together by genuine interest of actual real people. And the people running it and coding it actually understand what works about the platform and isn't trying to make it a carbon copy of anyone else. They have somewhat allowed more adult content back and they are doing amazing work! TumblrForTheWin!
The points you made about how Facebook has changed our feeds to become just random memes and ads from pages I don’t follow and products I don’t want or haven’t got any interest in absolutely nailed it. I’ve been fed up just scrolling endlessly through crap and not realising why, it’s such a habit now for me to just pull up Facebook and start scrolling and not even see any actual “content” aside from the news outlets I follow on there and the previous mentioned rubbish meme pages.
It was only this week my wife asked why I never like or comment on any of her Facebook posts and I told her I didn't she even made any - it turns out, it's no longer good enough to be friends with someone AND following them, to actually see their stuff you also need to FAVOURITE them too! Jeez.
Hey, it's kind of like having to click the Bell after hitting the Subscribe button on TH-cam to actually GET any updates about your subscribed channels' videos.... I remember the absolute SHITEstorm when the Bell was introduced, and now it's like it was always there...
But yeah, at least TH-cam's Bell system pretty much works. Facebook's Wall system is totally messed - sometimes even Favouriting someone or selecting "see first" doesn't work right. Not to mention that to change any setting means navigating Facebook's ridiculously complicated UI.
Evan I freaking love you! You just exploded on all the frustrations we’ve all been feeling. Thank you💕
Agree. This rant was an absolute work of art. Fantastic.
I am still enraged by Instagram's lack of chronological feed. I used to love that app so much - I found fellow makers and made actual friends. Now I don't see anything from them as Instagram tells me I'm up to date, but lies because then I'll go and think 'hmm, I haven't seen anything from so and so in ages' and I'll look at their feed and there'll be ten posts I've missed, but it's shown me the same post from two weeks ago by an influencer every day for a week. And don't get me started on Facebook's showing you 'most relevant' comments as default - don't fecking decide what I think is relevant!
I took one look at Threads, saw that it wasn't chronological (the one feature of Twitter that I liked) and noped right out of there.
THANK YOU. god ive been so skeptical about threads because im so used to seeing this happen. as well as ig morphing into more and more of an advertising platform over the years, i'm not sure why everyone is so quick to trust this too good to be true twitter clone
The trouble with Facebook is that they got so big and entrenched that they could afford to make it shittier and shittier because everyone would stay because of whoever else is one there that they still wanted to be connected with. They didn’t have to keep it good because people wouldn’t leave when it got worse and they were making money by making it worse.
Don't agree, many people live, FB is set to be forgotten soon
Pretty much the only Social Media I use is this, Reddit, & Discord. Reddit, I stick to subreddits I actually like. Discord the same. Here I watch interesting vids about stuff I like, & tend to stick around when the creators heart or comment back to their subscribers, because it means they care xxx
Literally the only reason I still have a Facebook account is so that I can contact friends who still have an account if I ever want/need to. I will also occasionally open it when I am supremely bored, but it's never a good time.
Ah, yes, MySpace. Now Facebook is for Baby Boomers connecting with high school friends. Plus other stuff.
And by other stuff, I assume you mean baby boomers connecting with neo nazis.
In my case, my childhood first girlfriend. I was 7. I'm 49 now.
What's wrong with connecting with friends? Your grandparents are cooler than this new generation.
@@christineperez7562: virtual friends are not real. Friends are people you have seen through the years and made the decision to keep in your life.
@@eattherich9215 hard disagree. there are many people i have met online years ago and continue to hold a relationship because suprise! i put in work and made the decision to keep them in my life. i've even met a few of them in person. Sure, not every internet relationship will stand the test of time due to a weak basis. but there are some that are truly gems.
I do agree with your point that a facebook feed of people you haven't spoken to in years might not constitute as friends. And that's one of the reasons i dislike facebook, if i want someone to know about my life, then i'll be actively talking to them and telling them. But to use the blanket statement that virtual friends can't exist is inaccurate.
I left all Metas products and Twitter at the end of last year. First of all, for privacy reasons and secondly, there were too many people that just gave me a bad mood that I wish I could grab through the screen.
This is why I replaced 100% of all those apps with federated systems, even if that meant cutting off communications with some people. That's how frustrated I was back then. At least no company can control what I see and it's chronological, too ... by default :)
Wouldn't wanna go back ... only in time, if that would be possible :D
You're my hero, I swear social media has contributed heavily to my anxiety but I'm just too weak minded to just stop using them. I wish I had your strength
@@lloroshastar6347 It's easier than you think. I left Twitter about seven years ago and Facebook about four years ago. My mental health immediately improved and I only missed the scroll addiction for a couple of days.
Yeah I only use Discord where I spend most times with private conversation and not servers, and only have Facebook Messenger installed to chat with people on Facebook, but not actually using the rest of Facebook.
Omg the ending 😂 honestly, it’s the best parody I’ve seen so far
I've gone on far too much of a CB rabbit hole this week and that. song. 😶 is now stuck in my brain continuously...but Evans parody was great 😂
I seriously love how everyone and their step-cousin is hopping aboard the ukulele meme train
I'm also a 90s kid and it's sad how social media is now. I use it to post my hobbies, interact with friends and family. Also be in a few suppert groups. Everything these days is about shorts or how to be viciously nasty to people because of their beliefs, disability, age, gender /sex/orientation etc. There is also a lot of people just advertising things that shouldn't be or showing people bad habits & saying its OK to do them. There's is no community or support how. I am a small channel so it's expected that I don't have many followers but I hate that TH-cam stops so many from seeing my videos because I don't have enough viewers to fit into their algorithm. Then again the world in real life may as well be the same as there is so many nasty, judgmental & vindictive people these days. So much has changed in 20 ywars (I'm 26 but I remember what was around when I was a kid). Hugs. Xx
I kept shouting "Amen!" out loud all through this. Must be confusing for my neighbors, since I don't usually do that on a Sunday.
Something I wasn't expecting from Threads is how good it is for showcasing photography. Photos just look way better on there than IG and with all of the horrendous changes that were made to IG it seems like photographers are transitioning to Threads in droves (or at least the ones I'm following).
What about Flickr? (or others, but I've been on Flickr since 2005 so unlikely to move).
I remember the fond days when all the different apps were an enjoyable place to be. I’m only keeping my Facebook alive because of all my photos on there. I mostly use Instagram to share photos of my makes with the sewist community but that’s being more and more drowned out by ads and shit I don’t want to see. And TH-cam is going the same way, forcing shorts onto me when I come here deliberately for the long form content. If I wanted shorts I’d go on TikTok 🙄
Get your photos while you can.
My social media activity is hitting like and occasionally commenting on TH-cam videos. 🤣 I developed social media burnout. I deleted them all.
Thanks for another great video!
Mastodon, Pixelfed, Friendica - ANYTHING but Meta/Twitter.
Ahhh remember when it had filters? When you could literally shut out the 80% of post types you didn’t care about? Those were good days. It was when they chose to remove that that I walked away.
I’m concerned that zuck is going to try and invade the fediverse with it
There is always the option to quit social media when it doesn't serve you anymore, I feel like everyone feels like there are no alternatives. I think people would be happier if instead of begrugingly going on social media, they went to a library and borrowed a book, learned to crochet etc.
Reducing my social media time worked well for me - those companies do not deserve your attention if they give nothing of value in return.
I don't trust Meta any longer now that they removed hashtags from Instagram as well. When searching for hashtags now, you only see the content Meta wants you to see. There is no way to sort by recently uploaded images with that hashtag. So now I can't find any new creators to connect with.
For me, Facebook lost its way when the "time line" became the algorithm based news feed. You could change the view, but it didn't stick. Then instagram did the same. That's why Twitter was better, until Elon got involved.
Edit....which is what you then say...doh
Every time I start Evan's videos, I think "wait, did I turn up the speed on TH-cam recently?" and then I realize he just talks really quickly. 😆
Which is why, if you want me for some reason, I'll be on Mastodon opting out of corporate social media like a hippie.
I never cared about seeing what my friends were up to, as it usually wasn't particularly interesting. So I've unfollowed most of my friends, except some few that actually have something interesting to share.
tbh the weirdest thing about Facebook that I've noticed is the bizarre auto-flagging of content.
I hate that I kinda wanted to support Threads, and I hate that pretty soon, googling it isn't going to turn up a horrific old British TV movie that scarred millions of people's brains.
Quite. I was going to point out that for anyone over a certain age, they'll immediately think of nuclear war.
@@chrisamies2141 - It is quite funny though that, for a lot of people googling Threads to find this new app, that was what was coming up.
For this video I shall like & subscribe 😆 Social media is dead tbh, or at least to me, it has been destroyed by greedy men wanting money -- as they strive to make as much money as they can, they are driving social media into the ground. The problem is that they're treating social media as a business when really it needs to be treated as the opposite 😂 Humans ruin everything 🤷🏼♀️
The problem isn't social media; it's corporate-controlled social media. The Fediverse and the wider IndieWeb are still a lot of fun... and no ads!
Great take. Honestly, it might be the last push for me to intentionally drop most of my social media. I dumped Twitter several years back and it felt so good.
Facebook kicked me off eight years ago for not giving them my ID, I refused and haven’t looked back…
Avoided facebook for years until I started travelling, then I found it amazing for keeping in touch with friends back home and following the adventures of the new people I met as I travelled. Only about 600 people on there as friends. Barely know anything of where they're travelling or what my friends are upto. Facebook doesn't show anything I joined it to see, just endless ads and memes I don't want. Absolute rubbish.
If only someone from Facebook would actually see this. My main gripe about all the platforms is that they are so big that it is literally impossible to contact them or make sensible suggestions or constructive critical comments.
I'm a millennial n never got a Facebook account because it always looked dodgy af to me.
Then instagram came n I had a look at it via a friend n realised that it'd be pure crack for my adhd brain so I nopes out of this one as well.
I genuinely never would have joined twitter either if tumblr hadn't crashed n burned (I really just wanna follow my artist buddies n show off my own art).
N now a dozen new twitter replacements pop up n fight for the crown.
I am exhausted.
We all are.
But if nothing else,I truly hope the crown doesn't go back to fucking Zuckerberg.
That Coleen song at the end. Chef kiss
That was the most eloquent rant I have ever heard.
All my friends are on Facebook and I still see some of the stuff they post. Maybe not everyone but more than enough.
The problem with the algorithm, which is honestly the same on youtube (which I hate, but oh well), is that WE are the people giving it it's info. They give us 10sec reels, we hate it, but yet every day we still go down the rabbit hole of watching thousands of those videos. Even though we hate it, the fact that we are still using it and (over)consuming it, gives the algorithm the idea that we like it. It's not a human, it doesn't think like us. It only goes "people watch this, let's show it to more people"
I personally think if we all decided to leave the apps because we hate it, then they would actually start making them better because how else would they get money? Nobody's using their shitty app
Glad to hear the start with MySpace, and yes this video was fun. Looking for and finding stuff like this helps me to feel the times are changing to our lessons learned and taking that with us. Thank you, amazing, love all the pointers and complaints explained very well.
Joining Threats because it isn't Twitter? Ahem, what about Mastodon?
As a regular user, not a content creator, I applied a radical solution years ago: get rid of social media alltogether.
why is Threads thought to be the only alternative to twitter? Mastodon has existed for a while now
People falling for big guy with big money again. They'll never learn.
Thank you Evan! I didn’t understand all of this before, but I’m so glad that you have explained it! Thanks again.
15:49 the end was unexpected but great
For me, Threads is a depressing TV drama of a nuclear bomb dropped on Sheffield sometime back in the 1980s. So watch Zuckerberg’s Threads go much the same apocalyptic way.
Consider Mastodon. It's a better twitter, and a better "threads". This is only my point of view, but you know in a couple of years "threads" will just be yet another disaster just like anything else facebook touches, and betting on it now only makes you more bound by it later on.
I've never been into any social media. I have Facebook but I only have it to contact my friends, family and various hobby groups. Closest I got to getting into social media was Twitter, but I literally used that to RP in communities.
honestly, the more we complain about these ads and social media apps, nothing will change, it will only get worse as long as we continue to use it. The enemy of my enemy shouldn't be the way you make decisions because the enemy is unfortunately now...social media itself. As long as we're using it, we're supporting the terrible people behind it
Surprised to hear you say that Threads doesn’t have ads (yet). When I signed up (also to spite Musk) I spent the first view minutes blocking football after football group and just assumed these were ads because it’s the kind of unwanted garbage I’d normally see in Twitter. But apparently it was just what the algorithm thought a new member would want to see?
I’m honestly not sure I believe that.
I was a pretty active user on Livejournal. Then Facebook came along and everybody switched. I took one look at that algorithm driven chaos, turned on my heel and never looked back.
Lol I go way back to MySpace too, and I really didn't want to change to Facebook.
Love love love the ukulele singing added at the end ❤
Facebook rarely ever shows me stuff from my friends anymore. It sucks. It only shows me stuff from groups (and if you leave groups they try to show you stuff from random groups anyway), and it becomes just like any other social media app. I want to see what things people I know post. Not randoms.
I've only just heard about Threads, and only because people are complaining about it.
So glad I'm not a heavy social media user any more.
Totally agree! I went off FB in 2016.
Well hello! Never been first before!
I'm going to give Threads a miss for a while and see how it fairs.
Congrats on being so quick
RIP all the local social networks that had shut down 5 to 15 years ago, because they couldn't compete. In nostalgic memories, when we logged in these pages to chat with our friend and look at their pictures and blogs.
If those local social networks did manage to compete, they very likely and inevitably ended up turning to shit like all the social media that have managed to compete...
@@jdjphotographynl I honestly don't think they would've end up that badly. Those, that I used to use, did organise a lot of social events or had at least a booth or an event photographer at those events. It was merching both social aspects to extends you wanted to do. Data security laws in my country are very strict, so that probably would have been another aspect too. 🤷🏽♀️
I remember joining Facebook ca. 2005, when it was still just for collegiate connections - I'm old, lol. Nothing seemed threatening or bad about Facebook until it started to become bloated with ads and addictive pay-as-you-play games - ex. Farmville, which was the worst waste of time ever. That was around 2008 or 2009, I think?
Something that you didn't touch on the regarding change from social media then vs. social media now is that before the iPhone, basically, no one was using using social media on their phone. The smartphone changed our relationship with social media to That Thing I Play Around With Sometimes on a Computer to It's Always There, Sending Its Siren Song from the Notifications Menu...And Even if I Silence It, It Stares Back at Me from the Home Screen... 😳
I'm still on Facebook, too. Not because it's so much fun to use, but because my friends are still there, posting updates. I also feel like if I erase too much of my social media, hiring managers may get suspicious. But maybe that's silly of me to think, IDK. I mean, I have a LinkedIn, what more do they really fricking need?
YOUR NOT WRONG! EXCEPT Threads will be just that way in 6 months. 😂😪
I agree. It's shiny now to draw in new people but it won't be long for it to go downhill.
Thank you Evan for perfection explaining why I don't use Facebook anymore so I don't have to. 👏 I still can't delete it because if you delete Facebook it deletes Messenger and I do occasionally use that app to contact irl friends.
Nothing I've heard about Facebook in the past 6 years has given me any regret about leaving it apart from maybe not leaving sooner
I don't have any Social Media anymore... it's toxic. I use TH-cam but don't upload anything. Removing Social Media from my life was the best decision I ever made. 2 years later and i'm much happier. ❤
I loved the Yahoo chat rooms back in the day.
I still miss MySpace.
Along with all the dead apps I think the ukulele has also been cancelled in the last week or so
I used to love Facebook for keeping up with what family members or friends were up to, now as Evan says I rarely see any posts from the people I want to see it’s all random posts or adverts that I constantly snooze or delete to have yet more crap appear!
Groups and Events are the ONLY part of Facebook that it's worth staying on for. Though it keeps hiding events navigation from me!
It’s such ukulele behaviour
Its a little emporer's new clothes - the marketers (FB etc all of them)
'we know more about what you like than you do'
'we will drive your information feed'
Turns out - they don't - automatic feeds are terrible as you point out.
Once the add sellers work it out - the cycle completes and the platform fades.
TH-cam is on the same curve - just earlier perhaps.
Have you tried Mastodon or Calckey or any of the other Fediverse options?
Evan!!!! Bravo, my man. Bravo!! I too think it'll get to the point when I'm going to go completely offline (cept for have-do posts regarding my art and such) But I think the age of relying on the internet will come to an end in the not too far future. Amen to that!
That ending 💀
I am very much enjoying your videos - especially your humour. You've persuaded me, at least about 75%, that Facebook has been damaging - it was so different back in the Noughties. I suppose the difference for me is that I am from Gen X, and a ton of my friends are still on Facebook, so it is still the fun place for me to connect and I do my best to filter out the negativity. I suppose the age group/generation and size of following has a significant impact on user experience - but I hope to enjoy these early days of Threads.
I go on TH-cam for creative content. I have fully disengaged with IRL people in my social sphere online, I only connect with them directly. And for online social spaces, I've been on discord since 2018.
That's pretty much all I do anymore.
I used to love twitter. I joined in 2009 (always been an early adopter of social media apps) and it was fun. Getting to interact with my favourite celebrities and talk about whatever I was watching on TV etc. and I remember when Facebook was only for students at specific universities (joined early 2005 when I was at King’s College London). If somehow we could rewind the clock eh?
As Gen X (although maybe an unusual one?) I find it funny how many Millenials, are like "I won't go on TikTok" and also "I hate Meta/Facebook/Twitter". To me TikTok has felt a bit like the early days of TH-cam, and sure, it won't feel like that forever, and we'll have to jump ship again, but at least it's not Meta/Elon (yet). And it does feel fun (depending what part of it you're on of course). I'm sure it's as bad as the next thing, but it still feels fun.
You're right about Murdoch/Zuckerberg, I hadn't thought of it in exactly those terms, but the similarity is uncanny now that you mention it.
I'm miserable because I'm an EU citizen who mostly uses twitter to follow Japanese creators, because twitter is where the Japanese creators are, but they're just as sick of twitter as everyone else and it seems like they're all joining Threads. The EU doesn't allow Threads because of major privacy issues. And I am all FOR the EU enforcing its privacy laws and not bending to the will of Meta and the other big players. But the thought of losing access to the content of all those people genuinely upsets me.
The only thing with threads is it follows accounts that i don’t normally follow
I got rid of faceache six years ago and I ain't going back.
Not expecting that ending 😂😂
This was very well articulated. Thank you
I really like the lighting and audio in this video
But yes I’m just on threads to see how fast it will go up in flames.
You know what? I could have gotten into Threads if a) there was anyone from he EU on there (rip) and b) I hadn't enjoyed the great same-ness of Tumblr for the last decade
I fucking love these kinda videos they're so well done
THANK
Twitter has seemed pretty intent on driving everyone away. Just as Threads was launching, Twitter was restricting feed volume, Tweetdeck wasn't showing feeds, my feed on my phone was constantly filled with worthless ads, search wasn't working & they announced Tweetdeck was going to become a paid-only service. I had resisted Mastadon & Bluesky & any other Twitter-replacement, but I have become frustrated with the condition of Twitter even though I am following hundreds of accounts for specific news. Threads is my new fallback tool.
My biggest frustration with social media (and big tech, in general) is how strongly the algorithm wants you to dive deep down a rabbit hole. It makes me afraid to casually look into differing opinions. I watched a few (American) conservative videos, and now I get really sexist cartoon things all over FB (FB is how my family knows I am still alive and okay as I live far away from them).
*Pulls up a rocking chair*
Back in the day, a lot (and I mean a *LOT*) of us used a social media platform called Livejournal. Livejournal was brilliant. There was a decent community for anything you wanted, populated by like-minded people that you could have rational conversations with. It had a brilliant FAQ section, it showed you baby step by baby step how to do things (these things usually involved an aspect of coding, so it was educational too). Then Facebook came along and some of us used them alongside each other, still leaning more towards Livejournal. But then Livejournal was bought by some Russian dudes (as far as we know) and everyone dropped it faster than you could say "Russia's after all the secrets!" or "hot coals burn!". But then the "powers that be" started tinkering with Facebook and ballsing it up for everyone, but there wasn't really anywhere to go now since Livejournal got bought out by these Russian blokes. Fast forward to all the talk about "Threads". The main thing that's missing, and that a lot of people in the UK that are around my age remember, is that in the mid 80's there was a mini-series of I think three episodes of a programme called "Threads". It aired at roughly the same time that "The Day After" aired on TV in the US (but "The Day After" was extremely tame in comparison to "Threads"). Bearing in mind that at that particular time we were still living under the threat of the Cold War and a nuclear missile attack at seemingly any time (true story, in my home town of Rotherham at least, every house had a leaflet dropped through the door on what the consequences of a nuclear strike might look like in relation to your geographical placing to the area the bomb dropped). The point I'm trying to make here is that "Threads" was about the result and consequences of a nuclear strike on Sheffield, the city nearest to where I lived in Rotherham. It was filmed in and around Sheffield and genuinely gave me nightmares for about a fortnight after it was aired - you should be still able to buy copies on DVD from Amazon. The mysterious "they" seem to not know that to a certain per centage of people living in the UK, the word, title or whatever you want to call it, "Threads" still sounds ominous and very scary.
Yeah, I've privately decided that when Threads launches in the EU, I'll finally delete my Insta account
It sucks, because I have some mutuals that I'd like to stay in touch with, but messaging apps only won't be the same, having to ask about whats new for them, instead of just seeing it on their feed 😢
you can only use threads if you use insta
This is why social media will be gone in the near future. People thinking that they can have stuff for free, and having them totally safe.
I absolutely despise scrolling through Instagram these days like 1/3 of it is ads another 1/3 is recommended stuff I don't follow or care about and then there's so so little of what I'm actually following left I hate it, not to mention the TikTokification like give me back my pictures I don't want it to be 99% videos I'm sick of it
Threads? hell no! I've got better things to be doing with my life.
To paraphrase another ukulele diss/cover you sang, "buy my merch, watch my stories, I only view users for what they do for me"