CZ SP01 Cajun Gun Works Vs Cz SP01 Shadow 💯 The Ultimate Comparison
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- “What should I do: get a regular SP01 and Cajunize it, or get a Shadow?"
➡️ We get this question a lot on the CZ pages so I made this video to help answer it.
In this video we’ll answer all the points you need to consider in order to decide between those two models.
➡️ Spoiler: there are a lot of things to consider but it mostly depends on your budget and what you want to use it for.
We’ll go over all of the use cases and which pistols work best for each as well as their differences.
💬 If you already own one of the two, what has been your experience with your model? Let me know in the comment section below!
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A lot of people dont know you can more or less convert a standard SP-01 safety to a Shadow by simply removing the firing pin block plunger and spring, then replace the FPB lifter arm in the sear cage with either a pre-B wide sear or CGW shim bushing. I modded my SP-01 to the point it is better than a Shadow 2, it's basically a Czechmate at this point. If you're interested in getting peak performance from your SP-01 and don't mind shelling out a bit of cash, here's a list of what I changed in mine;
~Replaced barrel with Cajun Gun Works fluted and threaded barrel and installed a compensator on it
~Installed CGW Accubushing and hand-fit it to the new barrel
~Replaced mainspring and guide rod with DPM Systems 3-stage recoil buffer and installed a CZC frame buffer pad
~Drifted the rear sight out and installed a dovetail optic mount for a red dot (I went with a Shield RMS 4-moa dot)
~Replaced stock grips with CZC short grips and flared magwell
~Converted to SAO by removing disconnector and installing CGW Standard Package kit with SAO flat face trigger and race hammer
~As mentioned, I deleted the firing pin block for a much shorter reset
~Mirror polished every single mating surface in the gun for a Teflon-smooth action
~Installed Cross Armory pic rail mounted thumb rest (I didn't want to drill and tap the gun) with custom molded thermoplastic grip surface for maximum muzzle flip control
~Shimmed the sear cage to the frame to prevent any rearward creep when pulling the trigger, it makes the pull much more crisp by eliminating any spring in the trigger
With all these mods this gun goes from already great to utterly phenomenal, the trigger has only .050" thousandths of total travel, with .002" thou of creep from the wall and a 1.8 pound pull weight (I also slightly cut and polished the hammer hooks on the race hammer and also polished the adjustable sear in the CGW trigger kit), and with the other mods like the thumb rest, DPM buffer, frame buffer and the compensator, the muzzle flip is almost non-existent. Everything combined makes this the fastest, flattest, most accurate handgun I've ever shot, I'm getting sub-.15 second splits between shots and can land 6 shots on a target at 20 yards in one second, it's stupid fast.
Only video I’ve found that actually answered my question about upgraded CZ SP-01 vs stock Shadow, etc. Thanks for doing this!
Thank you sir!
That is the best info I have found so far. Thanks!
Thanks man!
Very, very informative video! Thank you!
This is good info for people in CA. The shadow isn't on the roster here so it's out of the question trying to get one unless you're rich 😂 just picked up the safety model SP01 and wanna replace the roll pin and probably the trigger asap
Definitely cant go wrong with an SP01 man! Drop that pro package in and that thing will be a hot rod.
@@b0men CA resident with a SP01 Safety with the CGW Pro Package here. Is so nice.
Keep in mind that you can remove the disconnector to convert the trigger to SAO too, if it's just a range toy the DA feature isn't needed and the trigger can be greatly improved in SAO. And polishing all your moving internals should be your first step, like the trigger bar, slide rails, trigger, sides of the hammer, anything that moves. If you get the CGW Standard package (for SAO guns, the Pro package is for DA/SA) with their adjustable SAO trigger you can get the reset way down, and the race hammer and adjustable sear make the trigger pull extremely crisp. You can go one step further and remove the firing pin block plunger, and either replace the sear with a wider one, swap out the firing pin block lifter arm for a spacer, or cut the leg off the FPB lifter arm so it can't interfere with the trigger bar. It will drop the reset distance from around .200" to about .060", my SP-01 breaks at around 1.8 pounds with .060" of travel from reset to fired, it's identical to the TSO or other CZ SAO premium race guns now. Also pay close attention to the sear cage, see if there is a gap between the back of the cage and the frame that closes up as you pull on the trigger. It's unnoticeable when you have the stock trigger, but once you put a CGW kit in it will create some obvious slop/spring in the break if it's moving. If it does move (mine had about .015" of movement) you will want to look into shimming the gap inside the C-shaped recesses in the back of the sear cage to prevent it from springing back. I used two pieces of thick paper from a packaging label cut into 3/32" wide squares which I superglued into place, it's a rather simple fix. I've been chasing perfection in this trigger for months now, and with all the methods I explained here, I dare say I've attained it.
I paid $900 for my sp01 safety in 2020 and I’m not even mad about it. It’s that good
Same. I was one of those people panic buying weapons. Don’t regret shelling the money out for my first and only pistol
Excellent video. Content and presentation and audio 5 Star. Thanks!
Thank you sir!
Great video! Going to splurge and go for the Shadow line. Thanks
I bought a P01 and SP01 Tactical (both dockers) and did M-Carbo triggers. Mandatory. My 75C has a safety and was a better trigger out of the box, and still better with the M-Carbo upgrades. Went to a gunsmith (Tooth and Nail, Laurie MO) for the installation- great job.
Just ordered the M-Carbo spring kit for my 75C. Would like to put a fiber optic front site on as well
Read "A Rooftop Korean", instantly subscribed lol
Haha thank you sir
Perfect video, thanks
Awesome video! Did you install the pro package on the SP-01, or is it one of the competition packages CGW offers?
Cz75 sp01 tactical is safer gun...but, sp01 shadow has better trigger! 🍻🍻🍻
very informative video.
Thank you sir!
Thanks for the info, what hammer do you have in the SP01 Shadow ? Merry Christmas
Awesome Grips 😀 👌
Great review
Really like your videos bro. You should do a video on cz holsters. Recently got a compact 75, just don’t know about which holster is best for it.
Thanks man! I would suggest JM Custom Kydex or Shooks Customs. They're the two best I know of for CZ holsters for CCW. If it's for gaming, I'd go with Steadfast Holsters.
YES!!!! Safety model CZ SP01 has a MUCH better trigger!
I bought mine safety model in Sportsmans Warehouses for $750.
Yet to watch this.. please don't break my heart
I just got back my TriStar P120 from CGW - The P120 got all the upgrades inside of it specs now after CGW work DA was 7.3 now 6.8 - SA was 3.2 now 2.75 after i about 500 rounds thru it - put 5 shots inside a quarter from 8-10 yards - i have shot a factory shadow 2 and this TriStar P120 with CGW Package deal is a lot better than the shadow 2 - P120 cost $390 out the door -
Depends on what you're using it for. If you're competing a Shadow is a better option because of the lack of a firing pin block. You can dry fire it over and over without needing an o-ring or snapcap. And if you are a serious competitor, you'll be dry firing a lot. The Shadows are worth it for that reason alone, IMO.
But if you're just a gun owner and not competing, then yeah the P120 is an awesome option. Clones ae good.
I think I might take the SP-01 with the CGW upgrades because I want a “general purpose” type of CZ that can do every little thing at least more than adequately enough, rather than a pistol that’s perfect for competition but not good for battle or carry. My thinking might be flawed though… However, thank you for making a video that actually answers my question!
Edit: I might actually just get the CZ-75 SP-01 Competition that just came out.
Edit #2: I got the Shadow 2 instead :D
Edit #3: I literally Cajunized my Shadow 2 after 1,200 rounds with it stock, now I don’t wanna shoot anything else now
I just bought a safety model sp01 a couple weeks ago. Despite watching about a million videos on it before buying, and about a third of those saying about the same thing on the $550 price point, the best I could find for a brand new pistol was $613 shipped on gunbroker. After shooting it for the first time, I'm not the least upset about the higher than expected cost. The gun shoots amazing out of the box, but I'm still gonna throw a bunch of CGW parts at it anyway.
Looking to upgrade my P-01 Decocker with CGW pro package. Did you do any polishing on your Sp-01 tactical after pro install?
I can’t find info on this anywhere, will the shadow slide fit on the SP01 standard?
I'm looking at getting a CZ SP 01 because I live in communist CA and the Shadow 1 or 2 isnt on the "approved handgun roster". Great informative video, great YT channel name, liked and subscribed 👍
Pro Freedom 1000:1 - Are you planning on upgrading that bad boy? I ordered one on 8/1 and am still waiting... when it arrives i plan to order a CGW’s Pro package, sights and a pair of Lok grips! BTW, Honey Badger Gunworks in San Diego is a highly recommended gunsmith service.
@@Bacnow I will definitely upgrade it with CGW. I hope you get yours soon. I'll be might be moving to AZ but I'm waiting to see if it turns blue which it looks like it is/will. I want to move to a state that protects/promotes the 2nd Amendment.
I have heard of Honey Badger but I've never been there. I might check them out. I hope you get your CZ soon! Lmk how that CGW's Pro Package turns out. Im very curious.
CA sucks .
Just curious, what’s your take on The Tactical Sports Orange . Versus an rigged up Shadow 2 for example. Great channel! Cheers
Thank you sir! It would be this:
TSO - buy this if you plan to shoot Limited Division in USPSA
S2 - buy this if you plan to shoot Production Division or just want a range toy
Hey thanks for the day video and comparison. I plan on getting the SP-01 (safety model).
I purchased the G-Fight gen 3 laser trainer earlier this year and really enjoy my dry fire training.
You had mentioned about protecting the firing pin safety with a snap cap / O-ring. Wondering if you might have the answer to a compatibility question with the laser trainer cartridge. Will the firing pin safety mechanism in my firearm keep the firing pin from engaging with the laser trainer cartridge?
Would I still need to use a snap cap in addition to the laser cartridge? Or does the laser cartridge also protect the firearm while dry firing?
Thank you
Nice man keep clicking! Not sure about that as I have never actually used one of those.
I doubt the firing pin block would mess with it, based on looking at a pic of the cartrige but I've never used one of those so I really dont know.
If the laser thing goes where a snap cap goes, I'd imagine you wouldnt also need a snap cap there.
@@b0men Thanks. I'll do a little more research on the snap cap and make sure the laser cartridge takes the place of that. I appreciate it.
Fast forward 4 years and prices are up 45% - 50%. By the time I install the CGW pro package and upgrade the grips I’ll be close to the current Shadow 2 price.
With the current price of the sp-01 being around $750 do you still think it’s worth the price ? Ive been wanting to pull the trigger on buying one recently
Who makes those grips ?
Thanks for the video. What sights are those en the SP01 ? Thanks
np! Dawson Precision
Thanks
I would recommend a KJ Works model :)
Idk, I upgrade mine myself and they feel even better than some of the ones done by shops.
How would you feel about using one of these as a carry gun.. or maybe another model that you would recommend ?
Way too heavy for CCW daily. I would get one of the compact CZs instead, like a PCR or P01.
I just paid $830 for a new SP-01 here in CA....and this was a good deal as other store were selling them for $900. SP-01 is on the CA roaster but the Shadow 2 is not. Shadow 2s are selling for 3k easily here in CA.
3k?? Wtf? Is that tricked out? O r stock?
@@b0men Stock. Here in CA, we can only get off roaster handguns from out-of-state residents who move to CA. Glock 17/19 gen 5 easily sells for 1.2k. I've seen shadow 2 sell for 3.5k during its peak.
@@jaex26 yeah 3k is considered cheap. And stock. Time to move!
What are your thoughts between SP 01 Shadow cajunized vs the CZ Tactical Sport?
mrwpc09 , I just bought my first CZ. Got the Tactical Sport. Yea it’s a lot of cash, but my god that’s a hell of fun. Like the thumb/gas pedal , trigger less than 2 lb with tiny travel, long sight radius. Don’t let weight fool you. Weight is your friend with this stunning pistol. I have never really bought a pistol in this category before or really remotely close and I am just amazing, Yea it’s just stock out of the box and is super.
It’s frustrating they don’t offer the shadow without the safety
For sp-01, don't pay more than $1000.
What about CGW sp01 vs shadow2? How’s the trigger compared?
Shadow 2 (or any Shadow really) will have a better *out of the box* trigger than an SP01, due to the lack of a firing pin block. Once you upgrade them, however, they both get pretty damn close. The Shadow will always have a better trigger but an average shooter wont be able to tell the difference if the SP01 is fully upgraded.
Isn’t the Shadow IDPA compliant where the Shadow 2 is not..? Love the video.! 👍🍻🇺🇸
Thank you sir! That is correct. The Shadow 2 is not IDPA legal, unfortunately.
Is a stock shadow ssp legal in idpa ?
@@karaesek69 Yes it is!
Where did you get the grips. I looked at Cajun and didn’t find them there
Which grips?
Thanks for the info! I just got the safety model, what c.g mods do you suggest I buy 1st??
I would get some snap caps and dry fire the hell out of it. Use the Steve Anderson drills book.
Then shoot it a bunch.
THEN just install a CGW pro package and call it good.
Where would rate the CZ Custom SP-01 with the Hammer Trigger Guide Rod compared to these two?
Sorry for the delay. I'm not sure which one you mean? I've never heard of that.
What color is that shadow? I can't find it online or GunBroker. I like it
its the duo tone one - not sure its actually made anymore
OK, brother, i have searched both the video and the comments looking for the exact CGW package or gun parts that you placed on your competition-ready SP-01!! Can you PLEASE elaborate on this for us unlucky bastards that live in Cali and have NO opportunity to purchase a Shadow. Thanks in advance!!!👍
Hey man, I went with the CGW IDPA Legal pro kit. But if you are not shooting IDPA, just go with the standard CGW Pro Package that includes reach reduction. Before you buy it, shoot CGW an email with the link to verify that its the right one for your gun and your goals. They're quick to respond. Hope this helps.
A Rooftop Korean - Thank you for the quick response! That is very sound advice! Thanks!
Boss, what grips are you using? Where can I purchase them from?
Shooting Sports Innovations sir! SSI Scales grips. They make great competition gear
Here in California I got the SP-01 $789 not including taxes 😅 it is what it is, money is not an issue, California doesn’t offer the shadow other wise I would pay $1200 🤷🏽♂️ I love the CZ. I call it the 1911 killer
nery romero - Same! I ordered the SP-01 but would have sprung for the Shadow in a heartbeat!!
I have my cz shadow custom for sale with a holosun optic if interested!
Kong how much?
@@nery_romero_3471 1200 shipped to your ffl
Kong - how can it be shipped to an FFL if it is not on the approved roster? Unless...you moved to Cali with gun and registered it at that time...
You'll never find one for 550
Yeah everyone is out of stock and no one is asking under like 650 at the moment.
Edit - Granted, I was looking at the SP 01 tactical in Urban Grey.
Not if you wait until a pandemic panic-buy.
@@mikemerrill175 this was recorded *pre covid*.
Build the ark before the storm.
They were in the 550 to 600 pre pandemic
Just bought one at a gun show for $530 including tax
The SP-01 Tac is designed to be a duty gun that people convert for competition . A Shadow is designed as a competition gun . While based on the same "design frame work" it's like comparing a banana to a orange .
This is not a direct comparison at all. This is comparing a fully Cajunized SP01 Tac to a stock Shadow, which is one of the most commonly asked questions we get on the CZ forums.
People are unsure if they should just modify the gun they have *or* get a Shadow. It's a fair question.
The pin is the firing pin retainer, not the firing pin retainer pin, the firing pin safety is held in by the firing pin.
Lol - majoring in the minors
I just bought my first cz, the P01 for conceal carry. What do you suggest i change on the gun?
Only thing I'd change is the sights - stock P01 sights are pretty bad. Other than that, just get some snap caps, dry fire the hell out of it, and try to find ammo so you can actually shoot it.
Nothing, if I have to use my carry in self defense I would not like to have the defense going after me saying I modded my firearm to be more deadly, to kill faster or whatever they come up with.
Same goes with the ammo in the firearm when carrying. I carry what the local officers use.
For my non carry firearms, I mod the crap out of them.
For a shtf outside waist band carry would you go for SP-01 safety model or P-01 decocker?
definitely p01. Its much lighter and the tugging on the belt of the steel-framed sp01 gets old pretty quick.
@@b0men I have a Blue Force belt so I don't think there would be sag. I was asking more about what's better for duty, running cocked and locked or first pulling being DA?
@@Ashurus I prefer DA but its really all about how you train and what you have the most reps with.
I don't train cocked and locked and I want all my guns to be as similar as possible.
And it will prob still sag with an SP01, just a heads up. BFG rocks but these are really heavy on the belt.
@@b0men Thanks for the reply, I tried the SP man it really was heavy, didn't fit my hand great either. I ultimately went for the P226.
Nice video! Wish I can get these guns at the prices you’re suggesting but I’m in California ):
Kevin O yes I’m from Cali also and got mine for $780. It was backorder on gun store in my area. Found a gun store that had 1 left and selling it for $100 more than other stores that have it backorder. Still I bought it and wasted no time getting and installing Canjun Pro package in it. Shoots better than stock SP-01. Over all I’m happy with it and money well spent.
@@epg805 thanks for the reply, I eventually would like to get the pro package I got the sp01 safety model for 650 after taxes and dros. Love the gun! Wish I could have the shadow 2 though that thing is gorgeous.
Kevin O yes shadow 2 is a beauty and not so expensive compare to some other competition guns in my opinion. Would own that gun if it wasn’t for CA roster restrictions we have. But one day will get lucky to own one. For now I’m happy with my SP01 canjunized. I added some aluminum blue grips like the shadow 2 has to give it a more of a shadow 2 look lol.
I’m torn between the SP01 safety versus decocker versions.
if you plan to tinker with the trigger at all the safety version is much easier to work on
Why the hell do you pop up on my feed just now? I watched tons of CZ videos maybe 3 months ago.
The trigger has less to do without the firing pin block and the decocker. I'm looking for a decocker so I can work on the DA trigger pull without needing two hands and I like that there is no safety besides the DA pull. At the same time if it's such a drag to service, the freaking roll pin is still there...what about breaking trigger return springs on the SP-01 vs. the SP-01 Shadow?
I rather invest the money I'd save over a Shadow 2 in ammo and range time. I subbed your butt.
I think the reason the decockers are a drag to service is because of the sear cage, not the firing pin block. The FPB is whatever. The sear cage on a decocker is a pain compared to a shadow.
They don't make these grips anymore :( :( :( so cool
where did you get your grip? thanks
Shooting Sports Innovations
@@b0men Thank you !
They are very cool looking grips, I want
Are you familiar with the SP-01 Competition (Red/Blue)? If so how would you compare it to the Shadow 2 or the SP-01 base models? Mainly concerned about the trigger feel and I want the firing block safety I think
Havent heard about that one actually. Is it new?
@@b0men think it's relatively new. Has a few upgrades from the CZ SP-01 such as lightened hammer and trigger reducing pull weight, deeper undercuts on front and back slightly improving grip/feel, and fiber optic front. Thing looks sweet, my mind is pretty much made up especially since it has the firing pin block unlike the shadow line of CZs. Just looking for some confirmation bias lol
@@jijjr so I have had both FPB guns and non FPB guns. For competition I am fine without a firing block since these are DA/SA. But for carrying yeah I'd want a FPB
@@b0men actually not really for competition or carry. I just like nice guns. I have a tricked out p365 and Glock 43x for carry. Done a few competitions but I live in northern NJ and there just isn't much in my area otherwise I would love to get into it. The idea of dropping a gun and having it go off just isn't really worth the millisecond of time or 0.5 lb trigger pull for my purpose
@@jijjr Its really about what you're comfortable with but I would look into that a little more. The actual force required to set that gun off is way more than you could bring by dropping it.
Do these things fit in the same holsters?
Yes, except the Shadow comes stock with an extended mag release so you will want to get a Shadow holster. They both work in the Shadow holster.
If you swap the extended mag release for a regular one, they'll both work in an SP01 holster.
$550 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they’re like $750 now 😡
no choice here in a California. Got a safety model for $550! Waiting for the CGW Pro Package.
That's pretty good for CA prices. Nice find. CGW Pro Package will be great in that.
kagyu1 what store in cali? That is a good price
Rusty Shackleford well, now you’ll never know. PS ... it’s the same place anyone in California , regardless of location can buy off roster and used guns. Same place I bought my P365. Use that potato level IQ to figure it out.
@Rusty Shackleford 1 finger points out, 3 fingers point back. Reading comprehension is not your strong point. Does your car have a little hole in the roof from the point of your head? See, this is what happens when cousins marry. I'll be here every night folks between 6 an 9.
just watched this vid and you did not talk about or show what cajun parts were done to the pistol!!
Good Video but I’m completely distracted by how much I don’t dig those grips.
for competition, they help a LOT. For cosmetics, not so much.
ever consider converting to SAO ?
Nah. These are Production division guns and converting them to SAO would move them into Limited.
Mann. Ita hard to find a da, shadow 2 under 1200
Yeah we're in a gun shortage right now so prices are obviously much worse than they were 6 months ago.
Great discussion. Would dig seeing your review of my beloved beretta 92 G variant. I also dig the CZ’s but the 92 just rapes steel plates all day long.
Thanks! Unfortunately I don't know enough about the Pizza Gats to make a detailed video about them. I know they're great guns though.
550 was true 2 years ago but not today
Don't fear the decocker.
Sending my CZ75BD to Cajun . I’ll let them handle the upgrade... thanks Yes I like my standard CZ75BD
Grips get my Trytophobia going, eek!
wait till you shoot USPSA with them and the gun locks into your hand like superglue ;-)
I would like to know where you are buying your guns those prices don"t exist in my world
Before COVID they did :) Build the ark before the storm man! This is temporary and will normalize eventually. Thats when you buy.
9 hi point lovers disliked ths video.....
Support your local gun store
I just buy whatevers cheapest.
Where can you find an SP01 for 550$??
The south in 2020 lol
You can only get these for $800 minimum now!
yeah this was filmed pre-covid inflation lol
I really dont like the holes in the handle😂
If you shot some competitions, you would ;)
@@b0men Why's that? Just curious as I don't shoot competition
@@jeffreyk8789 they really lock your hand into the gun and allow you to more easily control the gun while shooting fast. In USPSA you are scored on both speed and accuracy.
@@b0men Good intel. Never tried it myself, but I guess I'll look into it now.
A Rooftop Korean - does the raised ridges cause any discomfort to your bare hands or are you primarily using gloves while shooting?
I guess those grips would be good for conceal carry weight but damn they look terrible
They're for USPSA, so not really for carry or looks.
@@b0men they seem useless compared to other grips. I don't see any advantage to them
Whys he keep saying "if youre a gamer" ?
If you shoot competition and are interested in adding every little component and technique to try and increase shootability, even if it’s only a marginal improvement, then you’re a gamer. Gamers spend years and sometimes lots of money learning how to save seconds on the clock, because at the top level seconds make the difference
@@LiveEazy Haha thanks. So to be clear its a term for someone whos competing and at the level of min maxing performance. And it has nothing to do with video games as it sounds like hes saying over and over to me lol. I just hear Pewdiepie #Gamers
@@iShockGamers no problem, no he’s not referring to video games, he’s referring to competition shooting like IDPA or USPSA but if it was video games then he’d be referring to the guys who buy the super expensive controllers and headsets because or the expansion packs to get the nice guns and gear because they can in fact make a difference and they want that next level of ability. Same approach/mindset different game
@@LiveEazy Sounds pay to win.. jk thats a gamer joke.. or wait.
“Buy it for $550” *cries in California*
pre covid prices haha
Paid $900 before tax and background check..
yikes! California?
@@b0men yup. In the height of the gun buying surge.
@@reelrocknrolla4251 yep that explains it
Don’t pay more than $550! 😂😂😂 laughing in year 2024! 😅
Lol yeah this was before that COVID money printer went BRRRRR
@@b0men Exactly!! Ahhh the good irl days.
lol yep. Different times my friend @@TheMr2cent
Rooftop Korean??? Wtf?
Does that make me a street level old white guy?
LOL i take it you do not know the story behind the infamous "rooftop koreans" during the LA riots in the 80s ?
waste of time , .....sp-o1 tac or buy 1911
Well I need my guns to run dirty and often, so I don't run 1911s.