Mac address is the one of the few apple based channel that gives us "content that we usually didnt ask for but are soo glad that they did" type of content. Very usual and intresting
@@CJonestheSteam72 I’ve found 6s’s are usually about $65 and SE’s are around $45 for me which isn’t bad at all but at this late in their life i wouldn’t recommend buying one unless you’re on an extremely tight budget.
Don’t worry bro, you can always… bend the rules 😏 But seriously, you should look at other iPhones since iOS 12 is getting further and further back each day. I would still recommend the iPhone 8 if the camera isn’t your top priority nor a oled screen. It has the same performance as the iPhone X, but retains the classic design and home button (aka, you iPhone 6 case may fit). It is an underrated iPhone since the iPhone SE 2020 and recent prices do reflect that. However, if your current battery is still okay, nothing stops you from using it till it gives up. But hey, still, gotta give you creds for using that good old boy and … bending conventions 😝
@@EpicGamer-no3yj Not to mention they will lose value fast. Apple products are actually not expensive in the long run if you're selling them before you upgrade. M1 has taken that to a new level for Macbooks.
@@Dionyzos With regards to the M1 MacBook, we don’t know yet. As it was stated in the video, the first gen might be more experimental and not receive that many updates.
I am so glad that this channel posts engaging and creative Apple content. It’s so refreshing when there are so many channels focused on “leaks” and rumours, using click bait titles and thumbnails for views!
Mac Address is wrong. He defends apple for slowing down phones. He says that apple is better than android because they offer more software support. Even though you can't use a iphone 6 (2014) on ios 8 anymore today. All your old apps on ios 8 get disabled and your forced to update your ios. Meanwhile if you never update your android on 5.0 (2014), it will still work with all apps. Also macs slow down after updates but they don't have batteries so the whole battery degrade excuse is pure horseshit. Why doesn't he mention how apple purposely makes it impossible to downgrade ios on iphones by not allowing unsigned ipsws.
When your device is this old, you may want to do a Restore (from scratch) install of iOS 15, then manually reinstall your apps. Guarantee the phone will run reasonably fast.
@@MR-wn6ln Worked! The phone runs significantly faster and somehow my touch id problem (having to rescan a lot) resolved itself, doesn't fix the battery problem though
This is the first time I notice that you guys combined the roles at the end of the video, like "Director and Producer" for Linus or "Host and Write" for Jonathan. Looks a lot better and cleaner!
@@ireadysucks3026 Linus Media Group has some serious hardware and software for video production, so unless you've only watched their other videos from like 3 years ago it should be about the same.
Haha, watching from an iPad Air 2. I was genuinely confused when I learnt I was going to get iPadOS 15. After this amazing experience I won't think twice before buying my first iPhone this year. 13 Series if it's a worthy upgrade.
I’m loving my 13 pro. First iPhone in a while worthy of getting. Significantly better than the 12 pro on a range of aspects. The 14 will ship with usbc tho so may be worth waiting.
My iPad Air 2 is still alive and kicking as my gf's netflix and youtube machine. Still performs well, can even play modern games with varying degrees of success
I love the support apple gives to their devices, I'm still on an iPhone 7 and see no reason to buy something new. I had an iPad 4 from launch and retired it just recently, I'm currently in the market for a new iPad. In contrast, my Android Xperia Play didn't receive even one update.
@@ytkieranswire8360 I gave it to some kid's parents that couldn't afford buying a new tablet for his online classes, it was still surprisingly capable for things like that, though admitedly I had some issues with web browsing during the last year. What I'll miss the most is the battery life, that thing had somethink like a 10000 MAh battery, I charged it twice a week when I gave it a lot of use.
@@brandon_nope I can't say, the lack of a headphone jack made me stop using my phone to listen to anything besides calls, period. To this day, my 5th gen 30 GB iPod is doing it for me.
I mean, ltt produces daily videos and this channel does not so they have more time for discussion, editing, scripting etc etc and it generally seems higher quality than ltt. They even go outside to shoot short segments and this is just more high effort content rather than daily content
Just gave an old iPhone 6 we had laying around to my grandmother. It might not be running the latest version of iOS, but it’s still technically supported. iOS 12 have been updated 5 times this year, mainly for security reasons. That means that there’s even older devices than the one you showed that are still up to date on a security level.
@@notpk6727 The iPhone 5S used the A7 while the iPhone 6 used the A8. According to Wikipedia : Apple states that it has 25% more CPU performance and 50% more graphics performance while drawing only 50% of the power of its predecessor, the Apple A7. So I’m not so sure what you’re talking about.
Got an iPhone 6S for Christmas 2015 and I love it. Never have had to take it to the store other than for a battery replacement back when batterygate was a thing and they were cheap. Only issue I'm running up against is my 16 GB of storage, other than that and a bit of screen burn-in and it works flawlessly.
@@brandon_nope i have like 7 extra apps and like 400 photos on my phone with 1gb to spare. The other storage is the one that takes up most of the storage
I have some thoughts about this videos production, I hope you receive it in a positive manner :) I though this video was about longevity of Apple devices, as it was presented at the beginning and in the thumbnail, but it shifted to be about iOS 15 features, which was slightly confusing. Also the “take my things and go away” transition is a bit over-used in your videos. I’d suggest finding less repetitive and more creative ways to transition between topics. Nonetheless, I do appreciate this channels creative approach, which is so different from a normal LMG video :) keep up the good work!
Yeah, I was a bit confused after he focussed more and more on the OS features. Not terrible per se, but not the direction I had pictured they would go with the video.
I have that specific SE. I absolutely love it. I bought it in 2016 and I swear I had no slow-downs whatsoever. Might be totally subjective, obviously. I had used the 4S for so long and iOS there _significantly_ worsened my experience. At some point it was so bad, that it just turned off at 80% energy. This didn't happen with the SE at all. It still feels as smooth as before. One of the big reasons for why I haven't upgraded is because I hate the newer iPhones rounded design and the SE had these beautiful sharp edges. The new mini has it as well, so I'm gonna upgrade as soon as I can afford it.
Watching on my iPhone SE (1st Gen). I am saving money to buy the iPhone 14 since iOS 15 is supported for this and there's no reason to upgrade this year.
Also watching on an iPhone SE. I was considering switching to Android after a few months, but this reminder of Apple's relatively long support makes me rethink that.
@@TheHy6xD I too hate the vibration of it. I have completely switched it off since I am working from home these days and I don't have to worry about not hearing the ring while travelling.
@@BLiu1 Yes. This is the premium we pay for. The long security updates and software updates. And also we can still buy authentic batteries in Apple stores. After all these years.
Typing this on a perfectly functional iPad Air 2 that I bought last month for 90 bucks because it has a small scratch on the screen. The 90 bucks I made selling a pristine iPad 2 that I got for free. This video is just the cherry on top of that deal. Good stuff, thanks Jonathan!
1:40 yeah about that most Androids are Galaxys and most get 3 years of Software and 4 years of Security Updates... Still not comparable to iPhones tho EDIT: Samsung bummed it up to 4 years of Software updates and 5 years of Security updates.
The fact that you also need to root and open bootloader just to make your android updated to the latest version is a big hassle to people. This is the point that majority of the android fanboys doesn't get they're always mad at the existence of apple but the fact that it has multiple updates that the common user can just do a tap and update compared to android.
The other replies are just straight up wrong. Every android I've had for the last 7+ years has received regular security updates (timely with android release cycle + US carrier delay of like a month) and software updates including upgrades to the newest version released years after the phones manufacture. No root, no nothing. The "Android doesn't get updates" meme is just wrong, and has been for a long time. I mean if you're importing from outside your market, sure, but if you buy a phone available from your carrier or a big box store, it will get updated.
@@tephulio good for USA that their android phones gets updated unlike outside us it only has likely 2-4 updates that's why that meme is still justifiable especially with the midrange smartphones.
The more important thing is that Android phones don't need updates anymore. Most security updates are now delivered via the Play Store as Play Security Updates. Backwards compatibility is provided for devices all the way back to Android 5 for new app development features. iOS doesn't provide this backwards compatibility support, meaning new apps often can only support the last one or two iOS versions.
I’m on my iPad air 2 right now. Bought it for $150 off at Best Buy 3 months after it launched. At the time I was worried he device would only be supported for 3 years, and the purchase would be a waste of money. Hearing Jonathan’s closing statement, I’ve never felt so validated in my decision. I definitely agree though, the battery is terrible now after 7 years of near daily use.
Long support is one of the things I wish other companies would follow Apple on. It would be unreasonable to expect forever support, but several years is lovely. On batteries... I do have an iPhone 4, some iPad 2s, and an iPad 3 that all still have working batteries... despite being waaaay behind on software.
Man I love this channel; i love the out-of-the-box ideas of LTT on purely Apple topics in cinema-grade quality. I mean, it just can't get better than this for an Apple fan like me who tires of the usual rumors and oh-no-where's-the-power-brick videos. I just greatly fear that there will be not enough initial viewers for the channel to be kept active enough. This is my polite request to please keep making these videos, despite the statistics, for at least two years. By then enough true fans of Apple and quality content (there gotta be a couple million of us) discover this channel and watch each video. Then the cost of production will be worth it. I know you guys aren't there yet but I am confident you will get there. Have a great weekend, LMG.
Even though I keep my iOS devices for only three years, I’m still glad Apple gives this long term software support to their devices because it allows me to sell these products to my relatives who would continue to use them for another 3 years. My aunt was using an iPhone 6 until Christmas of last year when I sold her my iPhone 8. My grandfather is still using an iPad Air 2 to this day, and will continue to use it.
How long apple supports their devices has played a big part on me expanding my apple ecosystem. I was on just a MacBook on 2013 but then i bought the iPhone X on 2017. And now and iPad Pro. These are expensive products for me but honestly each one of them keeps working beautifully for me to consider to update them to a newer version and they work together like a charm
Even if it didn’t change aesthetically or functionally, it’s still important to get the newest security updates. That alone makes iPhone worth it in the long run for me.
It's indisputable to say that Apple is the king when it comes to Mobile Software Support. However I argue for a correction @ 1:40 , Samsung promised to 3 years of updates on their S20 line going forward. and their 2019 phones, the S10 Flagship Lineup got updated to android 11 Apple still dwarfs the android space when it comes to long term support of official OEM updates (non custom roms) but to say "you will get 1 update if you are lucky" is kinda erroneous.
What’s crazier is that the iPad mini 4 is also getting this. It’s a year newer than the air 2 but is even less powerful. It’s basically an iPhone 6 with more ram.
I’ve had the iPad Air 2 since it was new. I used to use it for remote learning and now it’s mainly a media consumption device if I’m away from my computer. Has definitely served its purpose throughout the years but the battery life is a fraction of its former self.
I’m not sure I like Android notifications. The way they group apps together so you can’t turn on notifications in Chat and turn off the notifications in Gmail is incredibly annoying. I just turn off most notifications. When you only have 4-5 notifications at a time, iOS works well.
@Tommy Oliver 3D: I despise all the notification systems and do not think any of the implementations are good. If I wanted that sort of thing, that was what Growl was for, it should not be baked into an OS. Now websites constantly have "Do you want to allow notifications" UIs even though my browsers are configured to never allow them. It is a usability disaster, all over the place.
I love your style, with the open air elements and stuff. It's LTT quality but different and we already feel a connection with you in this very short time Jonathan! :)
It's security fixes that are really critical. New major OS versions are probably more of a convenience thing for handset manufacturers who have their shit together (so, apple, and no one else). The important thing is that users can continue to use their old phone and be confident that it's at least as secure as their PIN (12345, same as their luggage). And if Ubuntu can manage 5 year support cycles while shipping a new OS every 6 months. FFS, one of the biggest companies in the world should be able to handle that.
@@contournut5726 Something that is often forgotten outside the Android bubble: Google has bit by bit pushed more and more system updates via the Play Store. Sure, it's not a fully fledged security update (You can mostly thank SoC-producers for that), but it's... something. And Google has been pushing the mandatory minimum update timeframe year on year. It's not Apple level of updates (for various reasons most haters don't care to understand), but it is surely better than most outside the Android ecosystem think it is 😅
That last point about battery is why I’m pretty happy with my iPhone pro max. Easily lasts two entire calendar days of use with normal settings. Even if the battery degrades significantly I’d still be able to go over a day
RAM doubling from the previous year/model is a BIG reason for the longevity of these particular devices. I bought my SE and my mom's 6s for this reason and luckily I was correct. Cheers.
this is the thing that i was thinking to buy the first gen SE, yesterday. I searched, I bought it. Just for fantasy and feeling little bit old fashioned
Well, I am actually using an iPhone 6s with iOS 15. Runs great. I should probably mention I have the 64gb version. What sucks is that the 6s isn’t getting iOS 16, because I love this phone and would rather not retire it. Oh, and you can have the search bar at the top in Safari, which I did.
I am watching this on an Ipad Air 2 :D and it runs fine for YT, Netflix etc. The best thing is, that I can always Jailbreak the newest version with checkra1n and enjoy YT without ads and Background playback ;)
1:28 I love what you did there! It’s like you’re story-telling, and it made me subscribe and gave this vid a thumbs up. This is the first video I watched from your channel and I’m glad I met you!! Great content!! Transition!! Everything!! 🥰
I NEVER "upgrade" software. It is engineered obsolescence. The one time I did, the java patch I needed turned my computer into a doorstop. They can keep their useless "upgrades." It's not as if they tell us what they are or how to use them. There are no instruction manuals, and Apple wastes its Web site on pretty pictures instead of information.
I still daily an iPhone 5s, although i will be upgrading soon, but the 5s still works admirably and holds plenty of charge (even without a battery swap)
Both mine and my brothers iPad mini 4 batteries are horrible if you let it charge to 100% it will die and i have to turn it on again does this about 6-10 times before staying on but if you stop it at 99% it’s fine besides the lower max capacity it now has
Apple’s excellent software support is by far one of the biggest reasons I’ve moved to the iPhone over the past couple of years. My 2019 iPhone 11 will need its battery replaced soon (79% health) but it’s really nice having a phone that still performs excellently a couple years after purchasing it and knowing it’ll still be supported for likely longer than I’ll actually keep it. This is also why I actually feel comfortable spending big money on their iPad Pro - I know it’ll be supported for years and I can have the battery replaced when it needs it. Samsung’s best tablets still only seem to get a couple years or so of updates before being cut off. Really wish it was easier to swap the batteries on these devices though.
My iPhone XR bricked during the update to iOS 15. I took it to an Apple Store and they told (long story short) that my logic board is now damaged. The phone was working perfect before the OS update. Apple doesn't take any responsibility for this.
That point about wanting to turn off an app's non-essential notifications, like a delivery app's promotion notification, is something I like about Android. Each app has a notification channel, and you are able to turn off an app's individual notification categories. Makes for a cleaner notification experience.
iOS 15.7.8 on a iPhone 6s(16GB) SUCKS like 6GB of storage like what am I supposed to do with that maybe on a iPod touch 2nd generation from 2008 but it just overheats on the LOCKSCREEN HECK ON STANDBY MODE
Getting back to older iphone still in 2024. While 4s 5 5s are stuck on old iOS, which no apps supports, it seems that SE with iOS 15 still supports most apps making phone usable as main and only phone for daily use (while 5s and older are usable if you dont use banking, doing any work etc). Super cool. Just replaced iPhone SE battery and it seems that will replace my iPhone 12 pro max, as I want this smaller form factor.
Your home aesthetic always makes me think that there will be a “Moooooom, I’m filming right now” outtake eventually 😁 To the point of the vid, it is nice to see. For the droid comparison, I have an S20 ultra that will basically be abandonware next year, if it isn’t already. Real shame. Its a nice piece that would easily sustain future iterations of Android without a hitch. If Samsung would let it. Now, Apple, free up the purchase of board level components too and you’ll be super cool.
Epic video, loved the shooting and pace :D 2 things I'd add though lol - Don't forget the iPad Mini 4, with the A8, (yes the iPhone 6's SoC), literally the oldest & slowest SoC to run iOS 15 :P How it runs on that would be interesting. - Also, you mentioned on Android you'd be lucky to get 1 update - welp, not really so, Samsung and OnePlus promised to support their devices for 5 years after launch, including security updates. Still not as much as Apple, but yeah. Literally today Xiaomi pledged for a good few years lol. And also with Android, you can install a custom ROM and prolong that even further if you fancy that :) Keep up these high quality videos! :3
This video is much like Apple's official statements about problems: the problems are always worse than described, and no detailed explanations or scientific data are given.
Huh… As a correction: The first iPhone to actually have 3 year of updates was the 3GS, not the OG/2G or 3G, those only had two. They were released with iOS 1 and iOS 2 respectively and their last iOS update was iOS 3 and iOS 4 respectively.
Thank you for confirming me in my opinion that the iPad Air 2 is one of the best devices Apple has ever made ;). Very nice to see a recent OS still running quite OK on such old devices. The software life cycle truly is a USP for Apple's phones and tablets!
Coming from the Android world, I would argue that iOS devices are half maybe 1/3 of the price of an Android device... How? I used to buy a new Android phone almost every year just to run the latest version of Android... I now have an iPhone 12 that I don't plan to upgrade anytime soon and my 3 year old iPad Pro 10" is running the latest iOS flawlessly and awaiting to be upgraded to the new iOS 15... Also waiting for the new m1X laptops so I can buy a m1 for cheap. So if you calculate the device spending on a 4 or 5 years basis is actually waaaay cheaper to switch to Apple.
I just switched my iPad Air 2 (on iOS 15) to the M1 iPad Pro 12.9 and it was eye opening!! I was so used to the iPad I wasn’t noticing how slow it really was. I don’t think iOS 15 should be able to run on the iPad Air 2, it made it way slower than on iOS 14. Anyway , that said I love my new iPad and strongly recommend it.
Thing is with the Android - iOS comparison is that Apple has to worry about supporting just 2 major lineups of products that run it, while there's practically a new Android device every week from another random company that has nothing to do with Android beyond using their operating system. You could call this a weakness of Android by if Windows released a version almost every year, they'd encounter the same issue.
Every time I see someone talk about this I always have to ask how come I can install the latest version of Windows on whatever piece of hardware I want whereas I can't just install the latest version of Android on any device I want? I have installed Windows 10 on devices from 2009 through 2011 for example. Yet I have an s7 edge and it is only on Android 9 or 8 not sure.
I had an iPhone 6 Plus (No it did not bend) from launch until I got my iPhone 11 in 2019 and the only reason I upgraded was because I’d be under a family plan and really wanted to upgrade. If not It would have lasted me another year of security updates so yeah!
Android gets 2 yr of android updates across the board, not 1 yr, you're clearly misinformed. OnePlus and Xiaomi gets 3 yr. And Samsung's flagships gets 4 - 5 yr of software support
Yeah but the point is, the older models are reacting slower to the new iOS. It doesn’t have to be by much. Even if it’s slightly slower it’s still slower, keeping me personally from wanting to update. And why is it slower if it’s not receiving most of the newest features? It should at least have speed increases.
1:40 lol that's just false. I have a high end Huawei and I got 2 big updates and the third update will come soon. Of course, I got a lot of security patches too. It depends on having a high end phone or not, and yea, Apple is way better at updating, but don't say "other Android devices will get one update if any" that's straight up either lying or very poor research. You get only one update if you buy a 150$ low end phone or something like that.
1. Battery of iPad-2 (2012) still working with 10 hours of playback time. 2. iPhone-5S and iPad Air have one more year of support. Although they are 2 iOS versions behind, they got a security update on June of 2021.
I'm not a huge iPad user but picked up a battered but functionally fine iPad Air 2 about 4 years ago for £70 and I'm so glad it's going to get the iOS 15 update.
The iPhone SE (1st gen) was my first iPhone after leaving android. It was also the first phone I financed when I joined T-mobile, it was only 399 lol. I loved that phone and I used it until 2018 when I got the X. I haven't bought an iPad yet but I probably will by the end of the year.
You know, MA is very interesting to me. As an Apple user it’s much more applicable to my life than LTT and while I can see some of the LTT production hallmarks Mac Address very much has its own tone and style. Techlinked, Short Circuit and all the other LTT family channels feel much more like siblings while Mac Address feels like a cousin, still in the family but more of its own personality. I really hope it continues to find its audience.
It's important to remember that while with Apple you get full-featured (with the exeption of some hardware specific features) OS updates, during all those years, with Android you still get google-services updated and modern apps even on older versions of Andoroid. So you might not get all the OS related features, but you get the same longevity, if not even more. Google is really good with backwards compatibility.
honestly i've been using a se just to see how it runs and its pretty good honestly on ios 15 i just got the battery replaced and the phones running great
I always find it funny how people are always arguing that Apple wants you to buy their new devices when they literally release updates for a 7 year old tablet and a 5 year old phone all the while android phones might get 1 a year after release😂🙈
The Android folk have a huge chip on their shoulder over the fact that Android started as a cheap iPhone rip off. They also hate the fact that developers are more prone to write iOS apps first because we are more prone to actually PAY for them. One thing I saw on the Google play store that always made me laugh was if an App went from free to a couple of bucks the feedback caught FIRE! How dare they charge MONEY!
@@DanaTheInsane I think the reason people are more prone to buy apps is because for a long time Apple required you to put money on your AppleID when registering. I understand that people would call that absurd and whatnot but I think it really helped developers because if you’ve already got it, why not spend it?
Mac address is the one of the few apple based channel that gives us "content that we usually didnt ask for but are soo glad that they did" type of content. Very usual and intresting
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Apple Explained has gone downhill
@@Deinobi no apple explained will always be better
@@mikeoxlong4043 to each their own
@@Deinobi yeah it’s went down some
"The iPhone 6s will be able to run iOS 15"
Me, with an iPhone 6: 😭
A 6s is like $50 now, an SE even less
@@CJonestheSteam72 I’ve found 6s’s are usually about $65 and SE’s are around $45 for me which isn’t bad at all but at this late in their life i wouldn’t recommend buying one unless you’re on an extremely tight budget.
Time to upgrade to a 6S!
Don’t worry bro, you can always… bend the rules 😏 But seriously, you should look at other iPhones since iOS 12 is getting further and further back each day. I would still recommend the iPhone 8 if the camera isn’t your top priority nor a oled screen. It has the same performance as the iPhone X, but retains the classic design and home button (aka, you iPhone 6 case may fit). It is an underrated iPhone since the iPhone SE 2020 and recent prices do reflect that. However, if your current battery is still okay, nothing stops you from using it till it gives up. But hey, still, gotta give you creds for using that good old boy and … bending conventions 😝
@Hooman Being kinda joking, of course one should upgrade to the best they can afford. I think the 11 is the best value for the money, or SE2.
It’s actually impressive how long Apple support their older products.
It’s why I can’t go outside the ecosystem. I just know that all the fancy flips and folds are going to age like poop in a few years.
@@EpicGamer-no3yj Not to mention they will lose value fast. Apple products are actually not expensive in the long run if you're selling them before you upgrade. M1 has taken that to a new level for Macbooks.
No shit Sherlock, that’s the point of the video
@@VaydaladaVodalada ok mean man
@@Dionyzos With regards to the M1 MacBook, we don’t know yet.
As it was stated in the video, the first gen might be more experimental and not receive that many updates.
I am so glad that this channel posts engaging and creative Apple content. It’s so refreshing when there are so many channels focused on “leaks” and rumours, using click bait titles and thumbnails for views!
Mac Address is wrong. He defends apple for slowing down phones. He says that apple is better than android because they offer more software support. Even though you can't use a iphone 6 (2014) on ios 8 anymore today. All your old apps on ios 8 get disabled and your forced to update your ios. Meanwhile if you never update your android on 5.0 (2014), it will still work with all apps. Also macs slow down after updates but they don't have batteries so the whole battery degrade excuse is pure horseshit. Why doesn't he mention how apple purposely makes it impossible to downgrade ios on iphones by not allowing unsigned ipsws.
I absolutely love the longevity factor that comes with apple products
Unless it’s Mac then you get nothing in comparison to windows
@@ottoernst6707 I use Macs and I get a good get plenty of long term use out of it
@@ConorORegan Don’t they only go seven years or so?
@@ottoernst6707 you can get up to 10 years out of them
@@ottoernst6707 no windows product functions as close to its peak performance as Mace do after 7 years.
When your device is this old, you may want to do a Restore (from scratch) install of iOS 15, then manually reinstall your apps. Guarantee the phone will run reasonably fast.
I’m trying this on my 2016 SE, will come back with results after
@@naijohn alright so what’s the result
@@naijohn You can’t just leave us in suspense lol
@@MR-wn6ln Worked! The phone runs significantly faster and somehow my touch id problem (having to rescan a lot) resolved itself, doesn't fix the battery problem though
Currently on IOS15.1 (19B74) Legit update
This is the first time I notice that you guys combined the roles at the end of the video, like "Director and Producer" for Linus or "Host and Write" for Jonathan.
Looks a lot better and cleaner!
They forgot it for Andy tho. Maybe "Shooter & Art Director" is too long?
@@YetiFell but they wrote “Dir.” for Linus so they could easily put “Shooter & Art Dir.”
i didnt even realize this is a linus media group channel 😂
@@jzecru same, the video looks too good
@@ireadysucks3026 Linus Media Group has some serious hardware and software for video production, so unless you've only watched their other videos from like 3 years ago it should be about the same.
Haha, watching from an iPad Air 2. I was genuinely confused when I learnt I was going to get iPadOS 15. After this amazing experience I won't think twice before buying my first iPhone this year. 13 Series if it's a worthy upgrade.
After watching today's launching, I believe you should wait for iPhone 14
Yeah 14
I’m loving my 13 pro. First iPhone in a while worthy of getting. Significantly better than the 12 pro on a range of aspects. The 14 will ship with usbc tho so may be worth waiting.
@@RidwanNurzeha nah wait for iPhone 27 it will have more features
@@rogithkumar3508 iPhone 27 when a smartphone doesn't come with phone in the box
My iPad Air 2 is still alive and kicking as my gf's netflix and youtube machine. Still performs well, can even play modern games with varying degrees of success
i have one too, still works... kinda
How's the battery life holding up?
i also have one but i bought it when it came out and i used it mostly plugged in and very hardly so its battery is life is only like 5 hours
@@arnavodkaa for straight watching, around 6 hours. I got it when it first came out so its pretty beat up
@@imneveruploadinghere7180 exactly the same for me,but the volume buttons are completely busted
I love the support apple gives to their devices, I'm still on an iPhone 7 and see no reason to buy something new.
I had an iPad 4 from launch and retired it just recently, I'm currently in the market for a new iPad.
In contrast, my Android Xperia Play didn't receive even one update.
yeah that's why I will only buy iphone from now
@@ytkieranswire8360 I gave it to some kid's parents that couldn't afford buying a new tablet for his online classes, it was still surprisingly capable for things like that, though admitedly I had some issues with web browsing during the last year. What I'll miss the most is the battery life, that thing had somethink like a 10000 MAh battery, I charged it twice a week when I gave it a lot of use.
@@EmilyLovesTea123 too expensive I'm afraid, in my country I think it's over 1000 dollars, I can't afford that.
I had an iPhone 7 before and man having that Audio IC issue was a nightmare to deal with
@@brandon_nope I can't say, the lack of a headphone jack made me stop using my phone to listen to anything besides calls, period. To this day, my 5th gen 30 GB iPod is doing it for me.
I still use an My moms iPad Air 2 and I gotta say, for a 7 year old device it is holding on pretty damn well
I still use my mom's iPad 4, yes the 2012 (I think) model, it works great to watch TH-cam and internet TV!
same with Galaxy tab from 2010
"an my mum's iPad"
honestly this channel has the highest production quality among the lmg channels. very impressive
@music studios i agree, I meant the video production quality not the writing
I mean, ltt produces daily videos and this channel does not so they have more time for discussion, editing, scripting etc etc and it generally seems higher quality than ltt. They even go outside to shoot short segments and this is just more high effort content rather than daily content
Just gave an old iPhone 6 we had laying around to my grandmother. It might not be running the latest version of iOS, but it’s still technically supported. iOS 12 have been updated 5 times this year, mainly for security reasons. That means that there’s even older devices than the one you showed that are still up to date on a security level.
They won't have done it if the iphone 6 wasnt the most selling iphone to date
Plus the 5s and 6 use the same chip
So if 1 dies they both do so.
@@notpk6727 The iPhone 5S used the A7 while the iPhone 6 used the A8. According to Wikipedia : Apple states that it has 25% more CPU performance and 50% more graphics performance while drawing only 50% of the power of its predecessor, the Apple A7.
So I’m not so sure what you’re talking about.
Got an iPhone 6S for Christmas 2015 and I love it. Never have had to take it to the store other than for a battery replacement back when batterygate was a thing and they were cheap. Only issue I'm running up against is my 16 GB of storage, other than that and a bit of screen burn-in and it works flawlessly.
Yep i get the screen burn in a lot. But to get more storage try to backup the phone and reset it. You'll get like 5 gbs of storage
My goodness how does one live with 16 GB
How are you living with 16 gigs. Lol.
So you need another phone
@@brandon_nope i have like 7 extra apps and like 400 photos on my phone with 1gb to spare. The other storage is the one that takes up most of the storage
I have some thoughts about this videos production, I hope you receive it in a positive manner :)
I though this video was about longevity of Apple devices, as it was presented at the beginning and in the thumbnail, but it shifted to be about iOS 15 features, which was slightly confusing.
Also the “take my things and go away” transition is a bit over-used in your videos. I’d suggest finding less repetitive and more creative ways to transition between topics.
Nonetheless, I do appreciate this channels creative approach, which is so different from a normal LMG video :) keep up the good work!
Succinctly said.
Yeah right. Lost interest at the half way mark. Felt like he kept talking to reach the magical 10 min
@@vidhyachan6494 your point still stands, but they actually lowered the 10 minutes for mid-roll ads to 8 minutes last year :)
Yeah, I was a bit confused after he focussed more and more on the OS features. Not terrible per se, but not the direction I had pictured they would go with the video.
I have that specific SE. I absolutely love it. I bought it in 2016 and I swear I had no slow-downs whatsoever. Might be totally subjective, obviously. I had used the 4S for so long and iOS there _significantly_ worsened my experience. At some point it was so bad, that it just turned off at 80% energy. This didn't happen with the SE at all. It still feels as smooth as before. One of the big reasons for why I haven't upgraded is because I hate the newer iPhones rounded design and the SE had these beautiful sharp edges. The new mini has it as well, so I'm gonna upgrade as soon as I can afford it.
Rumors claim the 13 Mini is the last small iPhone so I’d recommend going for it
Watching on my iPhone SE (1st Gen). I am saving money to buy the iPhone 14 since iOS 15 is supported for this and there's no reason to upgrade this year.
I hate vibrations on first SE, but I love the phone. Upgraded only recently to 12 Pro.
Also watching on an iPhone SE. I was considering switching to Android after a few months, but this reminder of Apple's relatively long support makes me rethink that.
@@ytkieranswire8360 I bought it in 2018
@@TheHy6xD I too hate the vibration of it. I have completely switched it off since I am working from home these days and I don't have to worry about not hearing the ring while travelling.
@@BLiu1 Yes. This is the premium we pay for. The long security updates and software updates. And also we can still buy authentic batteries in Apple stores. After all these years.
Typing this on a perfectly functional iPad Air 2 that I bought last month for 90 bucks because it has a small scratch on the screen. The 90 bucks I made selling a pristine iPad 2 that I got for free. This video is just the cherry on top of that deal. Good stuff, thanks Jonathan!
1:40 yeah about that most Androids are Galaxys and most get 3 years of Software and 4 years of Security Updates... Still not comparable to iPhones tho
EDIT: Samsung bummed it up to 4 years of Software updates and 5 years of Security updates.
The fact that you also need to root and open bootloader just to make your android updated to the latest version is a big hassle to people. This is the point that majority of the android fanboys doesn't get they're always mad at the existence of apple but the fact that it has multiple updates that the common user can just do a tap and update compared to android.
The other replies are just straight up wrong. Every android I've had for the last 7+ years has received regular security updates (timely with android release cycle + US carrier delay of like a month) and software updates including upgrades to the newest version released years after the phones manufacture. No root, no nothing. The "Android doesn't get updates" meme is just wrong, and has been for a long time.
I mean if you're importing from outside your market, sure, but if you buy a phone available from your carrier or a big box store, it will get updated.
@@tephulio good for USA that their android phones gets updated unlike outside us it only has likely 2-4 updates that's why that meme is still justifiable especially with the midrange smartphones.
Low and mid-end Androids fare worse.
The more important thing is that Android phones don't need updates anymore.
Most security updates are now delivered via the Play Store as Play Security Updates.
Backwards compatibility is provided for devices all the way back to Android 5 for new app development features.
iOS doesn't provide this backwards compatibility support, meaning new apps often can only support the last one or two iOS versions.
Still got my iPhone 6S Plus as my main phone since it was released. Such a great phone, just haven’t felt the need to upgrade so far!
Same i bought the 7 plus when it was brand new and it still works fine though the battery life is halfway dead
Dammit iPad Air 2, beating out the 4S
I’m on my iPad air 2 right now. Bought it for $150 off at Best Buy 3 months after it launched. At the time I was worried he device would only be supported for 3 years, and the purchase would be a waste of money. Hearing Jonathan’s closing statement, I’ve never felt so validated in my decision. I definitely agree though, the battery is terrible now after 7 years of near daily use.
Long support is one of the things I wish other companies would follow Apple on. It would be unreasonable to expect forever support, but several years is lovely.
On batteries... I do have an iPhone 4, some iPad 2s, and an iPad 3 that all still have working batteries... despite being waaaay behind on software.
Man I love this channel; i love the out-of-the-box ideas of LTT on purely Apple topics in cinema-grade quality. I mean, it just can't get better than this for an Apple fan like me who tires of the usual rumors and oh-no-where's-the-power-brick videos. I just greatly fear that there will be not enough initial viewers for the channel to be kept active enough. This is my polite request to please keep making these videos, despite the statistics, for at least two years. By then enough true fans of Apple and quality content (there gotta be a couple million of us) discover this channel and watch each video. Then the cost of production will be worth it. I know you guys aren't there yet but I am confident you will get there. Have a great weekend, LMG.
Even though I keep my iOS devices for only three years, I’m still glad Apple gives this long term software support to their devices because it allows me to sell these products to my relatives who would continue to use them for another 3 years. My aunt was using an iPhone 6 until Christmas of last year when I sold her my iPhone 8. My grandfather is still using an iPad Air 2 to this day, and will continue to use it.
How long apple supports their devices has played a big part on me expanding my apple ecosystem. I was on just a MacBook on 2013 but then i bought the iPhone X on 2017. And now and iPad Pro. These are expensive products for me but honestly each one of them keeps working beautifully for me to consider to update them to a newer version and they work together like a charm
I actually only recently ditched my iPad Air 2 and got an iPad Pro M1.
Fucking hell of an upgrade, lemme tell ya.
That’s one hell of an upgrade!
How many generations is the jump?
Now that must last another decade…
Either the OS is optimised to run on older devices, or the OS' aren' really any different than the older ones.
I think given the fact those products have been released for 6+ years that its former. iOS and IpadOS has changed significantly in that time.
same with Android
Compare iOS 9 deeply with iOS 15 and that’s the answer
Even if it didn’t change aesthetically or functionally, it’s still important to get the newest security updates. That alone makes iPhone worth it in the long run for me.
@Cold As The Poles yes
2014 was 7 years ago? holy shi- WAIT A MINUTE IT'S 8 YEARS AGO NOW WTF
Update: 9
Funny how 2014 will soon be 10 years ago now (referenced to 0:11)
It's indisputable to say that Apple is the king when it comes to Mobile Software Support.
However I argue for a correction @ 1:40 , Samsung promised to 3 years of updates on their S20 line going forward. and their 2019 phones, the S10 Flagship Lineup got updated to android 11
Apple still dwarfs the android space when it comes to long term support of official OEM updates (non custom roms) but to say "you will get 1 update if you are lucky" is kinda erroneous.
I would not say Apple dwarfs updates of Fairphone (although it's still slightly less than Apple)
The first gen iPhone SE still pretty good on ios 15. (in my opinion)
Android: can only support your device for two years.
iOS: Hold my update
4 years for samsung which they announced last year for devices from 2018 onwards. But still, cant get near apple support.
@@umersalman1 samsung actually announced 3 years, of android updates. they do more than 3 years based on security updates
@@umersalman1 nope. Its 3 years for galox. S9 stopped getting major updates from samsung since like last year
Thats false lots of android devices get higher then 2 years and fairphone i think is going for 4 to 5 years on there new phone
What’s crazier is that the iPad mini 4 is also getting this. It’s a year newer than the air 2 but is even less powerful. It’s basically an iPhone 6 with more ram.
Which is why the iPhone 6 with 1GB of ram was one of its many mistakes.
I’ve had the iPad Air 2 since it was new. I used to use it for remote learning and now it’s mainly a media consumption device if I’m away from my computer.
Has definitely served its purpose throughout the years but the battery life is a fraction of its former self.
It’s not terribly difficult to replace the battery. Just need to be careful with the hair dryer or heat gun.
@@aaronbigleman7326 I know how to do it in theory but it never leaves the house these days so it’s not really a huge priority for me now.
3:35 During last year when I was using my iPad for zoom and work, trying to multitask made this all to familiar to me.
For all the good iOS brings, the fact that Apple haven't just given up and copied Android's notifications full stop is infuriating.
I’m not sure I like Android notifications. The way they group apps together so you can’t turn on notifications in Chat and turn off the notifications in Gmail is incredibly annoying.
I just turn off most notifications. When you only have 4-5 notifications at a time, iOS works well.
@Tommy Oliver 3D: I despise all the notification systems and do not think any of the implementations are good.
If I wanted that sort of thing, that was what Growl was for, it should not be baked into an OS. Now websites constantly have "Do you want to allow notifications" UIs even though my browsers are configured to never allow them. It is a usability disaster, all over the place.
@@cedricpomerleau5586 I definitely have Gmail notifications disabled on my Pixel 3a, so I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly.
I love your style, with the open air elements and stuff. It's LTT quality but different and we already feel a connection with you in this very short time Jonathan! :)
It's nowhere close, but android updates are up to 2 years for most phones, 3 for some. Security updates for 3 as a minimum basically.
It's security fixes that are really critical. New major OS versions are probably more of a convenience thing for handset manufacturers who have their shit together (so, apple, and no one else). The important thing is that users can continue to use their old phone and be confident that it's at least as secure as their PIN (12345, same as their luggage).
And if Ubuntu can manage 5 year support cycles while shipping a new OS every 6 months. FFS, one of the biggest companies in the world should be able to handle that.
@@contournut5726 Something that is often forgotten outside the Android bubble: Google has bit by bit pushed more and more system updates via the Play Store. Sure, it's not a fully fledged security update (You can mostly thank SoC-producers for that), but it's... something.
And Google has been pushing the mandatory minimum update timeframe year on year.
It's not Apple level of updates (for various reasons most haters don't care to understand), but it is surely better than most outside the Android ecosystem think it is 😅
That last point about battery is why I’m pretty happy with my iPhone pro max. Easily lasts two entire calendar days of use with normal settings. Even if the battery degrades significantly I’d still be able to go over a day
Nice one!
I also wish that their hardware would be more repairable...
RAM doubling from the previous year/model is a BIG reason for the longevity of these particular devices. I bought my SE and my mom's 6s for this reason and luckily I was correct. Cheers.
Still using the iPhone SE as I’m watching this, really appreciate the content
How long do they offer security updates? They should offer security updates even after that stop updating the operating system.
this is the thing that i was thinking to buy the first gen SE, yesterday.
I searched, I bought it. Just for fantasy and feeling little bit old fashioned
Well, I am actually using an iPhone 6s with iOS 15. Runs great. I should probably mention I have the 64gb version.
What sucks is that the 6s isn’t getting iOS 16, because I love this phone and would rather not retire it.
Oh, and you can have the search bar at the top in Safari, which I did.
I am watching this on an Ipad Air 2 :D and it runs fine for YT, Netflix etc.
The best thing is, that I can always Jailbreak the newest version with checkra1n and enjoy YT without ads and Background playback ;)
@@ytkieranswire8360 which games?
Might be a bad opinion but I dont want to have endless updates or too long support, it becomes slow and shitty
1:28 I love what you did there! It’s like you’re story-telling, and it made me subscribe and gave this vid a thumbs up. This is the first video I watched from your channel and I’m glad I met you!! Great content!! Transition!! Everything!! 🥰
Wait WHAT, Linus from LinusTechTips directed and produced this episode??
i just happy of them keeping support for such old devices
this can mean that the current generation of phones might have a long life ahead!
How can I get iPhone se first generation 🥲
I NEVER "upgrade" software. It is engineered obsolescence. The one time I did, the java patch I needed turned my computer into a doorstop. They can keep their useless "upgrades." It's not as if they tell us what they are or how to use them. There are no instruction manuals, and Apple wastes its Web site on pretty pictures instead of information.
finally someone understands
I still daily an iPhone 5s, although i will be upgrading soon, but the 5s still works admirably and holds plenty of charge (even without a battery swap)
Both mine and my brothers iPad mini 4 batteries are horrible if you let it charge to 100% it will die and i have to turn it on again does this about 6-10 times before staying on but if you stop it at 99% it’s fine besides the lower max capacity it now has
I downloaded iPadOS on my 2019 iPad mini, there’s a bug where shortcuts would crash. But very rarely
Apple’s excellent software support is by far one of the biggest reasons I’ve moved to the iPhone over the past couple of years. My 2019 iPhone 11 will need its battery replaced soon (79% health) but it’s really nice having a phone that still performs excellently a couple years after purchasing it and knowing it’ll still be supported for likely longer than I’ll actually keep it. This is also why I actually feel comfortable spending big money on their iPad Pro - I know it’ll be supported for years and I can have the battery replaced when it needs it. Samsung’s best tablets still only seem to get a couple years or so of updates before being cut off. Really wish it was easier to swap the batteries on these devices though.
Lol my samsung A3 still has good health after 6 years
2:32 I have a iPad 2 running iOS 8.1.2 LOL
This is an insanely well produced video!
8:28 “shedyuld”
I'm an SE user, and it still works so well!
Here after Pixel announced 6y of updates and samsung 7 years. Android really turning up the game
The iphone still a better choice 3 nanometre on iphone 15 pro 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
Digging the style of the channel. Great work 👍
My iPhone XR bricked during the update to iOS 15. I took it to an Apple Store and they told (long story short) that my logic board is now damaged. The phone was working perfect before the OS update. Apple doesn't take any responsibility for this.
That point about wanting to turn off an app's non-essential notifications, like a delivery app's promotion notification, is something I like about Android. Each app has a notification channel, and you are able to turn off an app's individual notification categories. Makes for a cleaner notification experience.
iOS 15.7.8 on a iPhone 6s(16GB) SUCKS like 6GB of storage like what am I supposed to do with that maybe on a iPod touch 2nd generation from 2008 but it just overheats on the LOCKSCREEN HECK ON STANDBY MODE
linux giving unlimited updates irrespective of hardware: am i a joke to u
Yep lol i do hope linux phones can hurry up development and actually be usable lol
Getting back to older iphone still in 2024. While 4s 5 5s are stuck on old iOS, which no apps supports, it seems that SE with iOS 15 still supports most apps making phone usable as main and only phone for daily use (while 5s and older are usable if you dont use banking, doing any work etc). Super cool. Just replaced iPhone SE battery and it seems that will replace my iPhone 12 pro max, as I want this smaller form factor.
I love the production quality of these videos!! So good
Just noticed TH-cam unsubscribed me from your channel! Can’t imagine why they’d think I’d ever want to unsub from an LMG channel…
Your home aesthetic always makes me think that there will be a “Moooooom, I’m filming right now” outtake eventually 😁
To the point of the vid, it is nice to see. For the droid comparison, I have an S20 ultra that will basically be abandonware next year, if it isn’t already. Real shame. Its a nice piece that would easily sustain future iterations of Android without a hitch. If Samsung would let it.
Now, Apple, free up the purchase of board level components too and you’ll be super cool.
Epic video, loved the shooting and pace :D
2 things I'd add though lol
- Don't forget the iPad Mini 4, with the A8, (yes the iPhone 6's SoC), literally the oldest & slowest SoC to run iOS 15 :P
How it runs on that would be interesting.
- Also, you mentioned on Android you'd be lucky to get 1 update - welp, not really so, Samsung and OnePlus promised to support their devices for 5 years after launch, including security updates. Still not as much as Apple, but yeah. Literally today Xiaomi pledged for a good few years lol. And also with Android, you can install a custom ROM and prolong that even further if you fancy that :)
Keep up these high quality videos! :3
This video is much like Apple's official statements about problems: the problems are always worse than described, and no detailed explanations or scientific data are given.
Huh… As a correction: The first iPhone to actually have 3 year of updates was the 3GS, not the OG/2G or 3G, those only had two. They were released with iOS 1 and iOS 2 respectively and their last iOS update was iOS 3 and iOS 4 respectively.
Thank you for confirming me in my opinion that the iPad Air 2 is one of the best devices Apple has ever made ;).
Very nice to see a recent OS still running quite OK on such old devices. The software life cycle truly is a USP for Apple's phones and tablets!
Coming from the Android world, I would argue that iOS devices are half maybe 1/3 of the price of an Android device... How? I used to buy a new Android phone almost every year just to run the latest version of Android... I now have an iPhone 12 that I don't plan to upgrade anytime soon and my 3 year old iPad Pro 10" is running the latest iOS flawlessly and awaiting to be upgraded to the new iOS 15... Also waiting for the new m1X laptops so I can buy a m1 for cheap. So if you calculate the device spending on a 4 or 5 years basis is actually waaaay cheaper to switch to Apple.
I just switched my iPad Air 2 (on iOS 15) to the M1 iPad Pro 12.9 and it was eye opening!! I was so used to the iPad I wasn’t noticing how slow it really was. I don’t think iOS 15 should be able to run on the iPad Air 2, it made it way slower than on iOS 14. Anyway , that said I love my new iPad and strongly recommend it.
Thing is with the Android - iOS comparison is that Apple has to worry about supporting just 2 major lineups of products that run it, while there's practically a new Android device every week from another random company that has nothing to do with Android beyond using their operating system. You could call this a weakness of Android by if Windows released a version almost every year, they'd encounter the same issue.
The iPad Mini 4 also gets IOS 15
Every time I see someone talk about this I always have to ask how come I can install the latest version of Windows on whatever piece of hardware I want whereas I can't just install the latest version of Android on any device I want?
I have installed Windows 10 on devices from 2009 through 2011 for example.
Yet I have an s7 edge and it is only on Android 9 or 8 not sure.
I had an iPhone 6 Plus (No it did not bend) from launch until I got my iPhone 11 in 2019 and the only reason I upgraded was because I’d be under a family plan and really wanted to upgrade. If not It would have lasted me another year of security updates so yeah!
Android gets 2 yr of android updates across the board, not 1 yr, you're clearly misinformed. OnePlus and Xiaomi gets 3 yr. And Samsung's flagships gets 4 - 5 yr of software support
Yeah but the point is, the older models are reacting slower to the new iOS. It doesn’t have to be by much. Even if it’s slightly slower it’s still slower, keeping me personally from wanting to update. And why is it slower if it’s not receiving most of the newest features? It should at least have speed increases.
1:40 lol that's just false. I have a high end Huawei and I got 2 big updates and the third update will come soon. Of course, I got a lot of security patches too. It depends on having a high end phone or not, and yea, Apple is way better at updating, but don't say "other Android devices will get one update if any" that's straight up either lying or very poor research. You get only one update if you buy a 150$ low end phone or something like that.
Awesome video, also, Jonathan lived in Winnipeg? I'm from there! Hey Mr. Horst, next time your in town, B.D.I. on me!
Sorry but. I’m happy with my iPhone 8 Plus who can stand for new Phones up to this day specially the “The camera and Gaming”
My iphone 6s with ios 15 still runns pretty decent
1. Battery of iPad-2 (2012) still working with 10 hours of playback time.
2. iPhone-5S and iPad Air have one more year of support. Although they are 2 iOS versions behind, they got a security update on June of 2021.
Samsung actually now give 4 years of OS and 5 years of security updates for devices from the s20 and newer
You captured the video an actual fly on your iPad when talking about fly in the ointment, that's impressive.
I'm not a huge iPad user but picked up a battered but functionally fine iPad Air 2 about 4 years ago for £70 and I'm so glad it's going to get the iOS 15 update.
I’m proud to say I watched this on a iPad Air 2 running iOS 15
The iPhone SE (1st gen) was my first iPhone after leaving android. It was also the first phone I financed when I joined T-mobile, it was only 399 lol. I loved that phone and I used it until 2018 when I got the X. I haven't bought an iPad yet but I probably will by the end of the year.
the small iPhone is so cute, funny how one time it was the form factor everyone was using, and now... you face big slabs often.
You know, MA is very interesting to me. As an Apple user it’s much more applicable to my life than LTT and while I can see some of the LTT production hallmarks Mac Address very much has its own tone and style.
Techlinked, Short Circuit and all the other LTT family channels feel much more like siblings while Mac Address feels like a cousin, still in the family but more of its own personality.
I really hope it continues to find its audience.
It's important to remember that while with Apple you get full-featured (with the exeption of some hardware specific features) OS updates, during all those years, with Android you still get google-services updated and modern apps even on older versions of Andoroid. So you might not get all the OS related features, but you get the same longevity, if not even more. Google is really good with backwards compatibility.
honestly i've been using a se just to see how it runs and its pretty good honestly on ios 15 i just got the battery replaced and the phones running great
Imagine how much worse this update will be for people with iPhone that only have 16gb
I always find it funny how people are always arguing that Apple wants you to buy their new devices when they literally release updates for a 7 year old tablet and a 5 year old phone all the while android phones might get 1 a year after release😂🙈
The Android folk have a huge chip on their shoulder over the fact that Android started as a cheap iPhone rip off. They also hate the fact that developers are more prone to write iOS apps first because we are more prone to actually PAY for them. One thing I saw on the Google play store that always made me laugh was if an App went from free to a couple of bucks the feedback caught FIRE! How dare they charge MONEY!
@@DanaTheInsane I think the reason people are more prone to buy apps is because for a long time Apple required you to put money on your AppleID when registering. I understand that people would call that absurd and whatnot but I think it really helped developers because if you’ve already got it, why not spend it?
1:18 Android phones are supported forever due to custom roms. Still getting updates for my Galaxy S3.
I still rock the iPad air 2 in 2023 😅 it served me good but it does need a new battery
Question: Does the IPhone X still get supported?
@Lucas. thanks