After several derogatory comments made by a so called moderator on a Facebook forum I would like to point out that the oil used in this video is what was recommended by my local car parts supplier. This may not be the recommended oil for all vans. Please do not just buy this oil because it is what I have used. My Van is a 2007 with 172k miles on the clock so it is reasonable to expect different requirement to yours.
This is a good video giving people a good heads up practical advice. I like your emphasis on safety a good few years ago I attended the scene of a fatal incident where a jack had lowered onto a male mechanic. Very sad and traumatic for the close family please use a axle stand folks and take an extra minute to think a job out.
Thanks Mike. Unfortunately you see a lot of people using jacks on their own. They might get away with it 100s of times but it only takes it to fail once...
thank you buddy will do this in a minute and this is exactly what I was looking for. Different van (Nissan nv400) but roughly same parts and you're the only one explaining and showing the process clearly . Thanks
Hello, nice video! The Opel Vivaro has a tube sticking up into the engine compartment for filling gearbox oil. It enters the top of the gear-box. So you don't really need to use that plastic filler plug on the side. But you probably would like to use it for checking the oil level anyways....Required Oil-levels; There are different required oil-levels for the gear-box, dependent on engine type. For engine G9U 750, F9Q 760/762, F4R 720, F4R 820, G9U 730 you must use a special tool to measure the level, the workshop manual says. For G9U 630, M9R 780 you can fill until it overflows the filler cap on the side. The special tool is simply a bent metal wire you stick into the filler cap on the side. There is a drawing of it in the workshop manual, so that you can make it yourselves. It has marked two distances on it; A=19mm below the hole's lower level. B = 31 mm below the hole's lower level. The oil level shall be between these two levels below the filler hole lower edge. On mine there is a big warning label next to the filler hole, saying DONT FILL TO OVERFLOW. I don't know what happens if I do, but I won't try. I have this information from the Opel Vivaro workshop manual. :)
Yes there are quite a few variants which is why it is so important to read the manual before doing anything on these vans. I suppose the danger of over filling would be that you could blow the seals or pump oil out of the breather.
21:52 : At least PK5 and PK6 gearboxes you should NEVER fill up til oil drips out thats overfilling and SUPER BAD for the gearbox. That said.. how do you check oil ?? of course with the special Renault tool! A fancy dipstick that goes in to the filler hole (thet dipstick has 3 different levels marked A,B and C , i believe C is for Nissan primastar one of the other is for vivaro and traffic. You would expect that to be written in the workshop manual or else its not a very good manual.
Next time you do it if you get a meter or so of hose and a funnel you just put hose in hole and pour oil in funnel from outside wheel arch makes it a lot easier.
Thanks. I've got a video to do on the braking system soon. The weather is holding me up a bit. Not a nice time of year to work on the van. Especially if you don't have a garage.
You don't really get a choice here unless you decant the oil into a different can of your choosing. Adding that little bit of pipe was an easy solution to the problem.
Nice video mate. Your van you use what oil you want! What you made is a informative video, people can take what they want from it. To make it easier next time try shoving a piece of garden hose in box up out the bonnet no need to remove wheel that way bud.
Good idea but you really need a funnel for that and unfortunately I didn't have one. Glad you liked the video though. Still got the brakes to do but that should be in the new couple of months.
Most gearboxes are very similar in that they use the fill plug as a level plug too. The 1.9 might be different, I honestly couldn't tell you as I've never worked on one. The Golden rule... Follow the manual
Gearbox oil doesn't really get that dirty as such. It doesn't get the heat exposure that engine oil gets. It can thicken though. When it does it doesn't work as well. If your box is worn then you can get metal contamination in it too which is why there is normally a magnet on the drain plug.
Hello. Thank you for video. I want to follow these steps on a Renault Trafic. Please tell me which are dimensions for metal washer that you used for drain screw. I expect I have to buy one in order to change the old one. Also, for filler hole, I see you put a rubber seal. Do you know, approximatively the dimensions? The rubber is regular rubber or it should be some high temperature resistant rubber? Thank you.
The metal washer is exactly the same size as the engine oil drain plug. If you ask your local spares shop they should be able to supply you with the correct size. That's pretty much what I did. The rubber seal on the filler was not changed. The spares shop did not have one so all I did was clean up the old one and then lubricate it with a small amount of oil. That worked fine.
Hi. Im a bit confused. You said 2.7L of oil to go into the gearbox? A certain motor factor has told me its 2.35L to 2.5L ? I have a vivaro 2007 1.9 cdti f9q 760 6 speed. Also, could i fill until the oil overflows out of the filler hole and let the level set itself? Thanks.
Mine is a 2.0L '57' plate and the workshop manual lists it as 2.7L. However that being said you can only fill it until the oil starts to come out of the fill/ level plug so the 0.2 - 0.35L really isn't something to get concerned about. As long as your vehicle is on level ground (or as close as possible) just fill it to the level plug and that should be fine.
Well it's been ok in my box since I put it in. However the people on the vivaro page on face book say it's wrong. It was the oil my spares shop recommended. I don't do very many miles in my van so any down sides to using standard oil may not be apparent for me. The process will be the same which ever oil you use.
I wouldn't think it would be massively different. Most gearboxes on manuals are very similar in approach. The oil may be different but the principle should be the same.
I just changed the oil on my renault master after finding out the gearbox was completely dry and now my van is failing to start. Are the vivaros similar? I know my way around an engine and car but this has puzzled me
I can't see why changing the gearbox oil would stop your van from running... The only thing I can think is you have accidentally disconnected (or shorted) a wire from somewhere. Or possibly you've been unlucky and developed an engine fault at precisely the same time as you've done the gearbox. Have you got any fault codes or anything? Did you disconnect the battery? I know the book tells you to disconnect the battery but unless I'm doing something with the electrics I seldom do that.
@@ItsWhatIDo I know I'm completely puzzled by it. I had driven it parked it up changed oil and nothing. I over filled it and I'm thinking maybe by being over filled it's fouled a sensor in the gearbox maybe however I'm not sure what sensors are in it. I haven't left it over filled I'm in 100% certain iv not knocked anything. I didn't disconnect the battery as same as yourself I don't see the point unless it's something electrical. It's certainly going to drive me insane today trying to find out what happened
@@c4r5on88 Glad you have got it sorted. It could just have been one of those unlucky coincidences and the plug could have been loose for a while. If it goes again at least you'll know where to check first lol
@@ItsWhatIDo if you knew me you would say I have a lot of unlucky coincidences lol but yes iv picked up some ramps from where my projects are kept so tomorrow I'll try to get it held on properly. Just can't believe they decided the back of the engine is where they would put it
Which brings it to the overflow. There are several variations on these gearboxes so it will depend on what one. Oh and mine has been sweet as a nut since
That’s the 5 gear and some of the early 6 gears who need a special dipstick (only sold to Renault dealers) or precise measure of 2.6 liter! The gearbox in the video is another model.
Thanks for the comment. No I'm not a mechanic. I'm a home DIY person. Please feel free in creating your own video that corrects anything I've done wrong in this one.
After several derogatory comments made by a so called moderator on a Facebook forum I would like to point out that the oil used in this video is what was recommended by my local car parts supplier. This may not be the recommended oil for all vans. Please do not just buy this oil because it is what I have used. My Van is a 2007 with 172k miles on the clock so it is reasonable to expect different requirement to yours.
Thanks for the video Fab. Just ignore the idiots on Facebook ect.
@@shauntaylor2850 cheers. Glad you found it useful
Great video. Going to tackle mine. Mines also a 07
@@Straitjacket808 Thanks.
Great vid dude:)
This is a good video giving people a good heads up practical advice. I like your emphasis on safety a good few years ago I attended the scene of a fatal incident where a jack had lowered onto a male mechanic. Very sad and traumatic for the close family please use a axle stand folks and take an extra minute to think a job out.
Thanks Mike. Unfortunately you see a lot of people using jacks on their own. They might get away with it 100s of times but it only takes it to fail once...
thank you buddy will do this in a minute and this is exactly what I was looking for. Different van (Nissan nv400) but roughly same parts and you're the only one explaining and showing the process clearly . Thanks
You're Welcome. Glad you found it helpful
Looking at doing this job and did a quick search and was pleasantly surprised to see such a comprehensive demonstration! 👍
Glad you found it useful. I try hard to make the video's so that you can get a really good idea of what to expect when you do the job yourself.
Hello, nice video!
The Opel Vivaro has a tube sticking up into the engine compartment for filling gearbox oil. It enters the top of the gear-box. So you don't really need to use that plastic filler plug on the side. But you probably would like to use it for checking the oil level anyways....Required Oil-levels;
There are different required oil-levels for the gear-box, dependent on engine type.
For engine G9U 750, F9Q 760/762, F4R 720, F4R 820, G9U 730 you must use a special tool to measure the level, the workshop manual says.
For G9U 630, M9R 780 you can fill until it overflows the filler cap on the side.
The special tool is simply a bent metal wire you stick into the filler cap on the side. There is a drawing of it in the workshop manual, so that you can make it yourselves.
It has marked two distances on it; A=19mm below the hole's lower level. B = 31 mm below the hole's lower level.
The oil level shall be between these two levels below the filler hole lower edge.
On mine there is a big warning label next to the filler hole, saying DONT FILL TO OVERFLOW. I don't know what happens if I do, but I won't try.
I have this information from the Opel Vivaro workshop manual. :)
Yes there are quite a few variants which is why it is so important to read the manual before doing anything on these vans. I suppose the danger of over filling would be that you could blow the seals or pump oil out of the breather.
Gearbox vent tube that should NOT be used as filler hole
@@ll4512 Why not?
@@wikeroy text from service manual " WARNING: it is FORBIDDEN to remove the breather valve (D) to fill the gearbox with oil"
but it does not say why
21:52 : At least PK5 and PK6 gearboxes you should NEVER fill up til oil drips out thats overfilling and SUPER BAD for the gearbox. That said.. how do you check oil ?? of course with the special Renault tool! A fancy dipstick that goes in to the filler hole (thet dipstick has 3 different levels marked A,B and C , i believe C is for Nissan primastar one of the other is for vivaro and traffic. You would expect that to be written in the workshop manual or else its not a very good manual.
I don't think they would ever be accused of giving out too much info.
Really helpful, thanks. Great video angles.
I'm glad you found it useful. I have one (maybe two) more video planned for the van and that will cover the braking system.
Next time you do it if you get a meter or so of hose and a funnel you just put hose in hole and pour oil in funnel from outside wheel arch makes it a lot easier.
I didn't have a funnel to hand so you have to adapt to what you have available. There is always a way 😉
The Opel Vivaro has a tube sticking up into the engine compartment for filling gearbox oil. Its comes from the top of the gear-box.
Nice video well explained 👍 top bloke
Thanks. I've got a video to do on the braking system soon. The weather is holding me up a bit. Not a nice time of year to work on the van. Especially if you don't have a garage.
i buy the gear oil cans with the longer pipes on the container, they go right into the hole, you still need to take the panel out though..
You don't really get a choice here unless you decant the oil into a different can of your choosing. Adding that little bit of pipe was an easy solution to the problem.
The Opel Vivaro has a tube sticking up into the engine compartment for filling gearbox oil. It enters the top of the gear-box.
Nice video mate. Your van you use what oil you want! What you made is a informative video, people can take what they want from it. To make it easier next time try shoving a piece of garden hose in box up out the bonnet no need to remove wheel that way bud.
Good idea but you really need a funnel for that and unfortunately I didn't have one. Glad you liked the video though. Still got the brakes to do but that should be in the new couple of months.
The Opel Vivaro has a tube sticking up into the engine compartment for filling gearbox oil. Its comes from the top of the gear-box.
great vid but i looked in the manual and it says to check the level with a special tool? i have a 1.9dci any advice would be greatly appreciated
Most gearboxes are very similar in that they use the fill plug as a level plug too. The 1.9 might be different, I honestly couldn't tell you as I've never worked on one. The Golden rule... Follow the manual
That oil looked clean..
Gearbox oil doesn't really get that dirty as such. It doesn't get the heat exposure that engine oil gets. It can thicken though. When it does it doesn't work as well. If your box is worn then you can get metal contamination in it too which is why there is normally a magnet on the drain plug.
Super helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Hello. Thank you for video. I want to follow these steps on a Renault Trafic. Please tell me which are dimensions for metal washer that you used for drain screw. I expect I have to buy one in order to change the old one. Also, for filler hole, I see you put a rubber seal. Do you know, approximatively the dimensions? The rubber is regular rubber or it should be some high temperature resistant rubber? Thank you.
The metal washer is exactly the same size as the engine oil drain plug. If you ask your local spares shop they should be able to supply you with the correct size. That's pretty much what I did. The rubber seal on the filler was not changed. The spares shop did not have one so all I did was clean up the old one and then lubricate it with a small amount of oil. That worked fine.
@@ItsWhatIDo Thank you very much for both answers!
Also, do you need to remove the engine shield in order to get access to the drain hole? Thank you
Hi, My van did not have the engine shield but if it is fitted then I would expect you would need to remove it first.
Hi. Im a bit confused. You said 2.7L of oil to go into the gearbox? A certain motor factor has told me its 2.35L to 2.5L ? I have a vivaro 2007 1.9 cdti f9q 760 6 speed. Also, could i fill until the oil overflows out of the filler hole and let the level set itself? Thanks.
Mine is a 2.0L '57' plate and the workshop manual lists it as 2.7L. However that being said you can only fill it until the oil starts to come out of the fill/ level plug so the 0.2 - 0.35L really isn't something to get concerned about. As long as your vehicle is on level ground (or as close as possible) just fill it to the level plug and that should be fine.
2.7 on a 1.9. The 2.0l is fill to spill.
Thx for this video. Just about to diy my movano gearbox. That oil looked OK to me? Do u think it was OK.
Well it's been ok in my box since I put it in. However the people on the vivaro page on face book say it's wrong. It was the oil my spares shop recommended. I don't do very many miles in my van so any down sides to using standard oil may not be apparent for me. The process will be the same which ever oil you use.
@@ItsWhatIDo I didn't even notice it wasn't the correct oil. Thx
@@squidlings It's the correct W ratings for the box but they say it should be TransElf NFP
Any idea if it's the same for a 2017 bu turbo trafic? Cheers
I wouldn't think it would be massively different. Most gearboxes on manuals are very similar in approach. The oil may be different but the principle should be the same.
What was the torque value for the drain plug?
I can't remember of the top of my head. It the same as the engine sump plug. If you watch my video on the engine oil change I tell you in that.
I just checked for you and it's 18Nm
I just changed the oil on my renault master after finding out the gearbox was completely dry and now my van is failing to start. Are the vivaros similar? I know my way around an engine and car but this has puzzled me
I can't see why changing the gearbox oil would stop your van from running... The only thing I can think is you have accidentally disconnected (or shorted) a wire from somewhere. Or possibly you've been unlucky and developed an engine fault at precisely the same time as you've done the gearbox. Have you got any fault codes or anything? Did you disconnect the battery? I know the book tells you to disconnect the battery but unless I'm doing something with the electrics I seldom do that.
@@ItsWhatIDo I know I'm completely puzzled by it. I had driven it parked it up changed oil and nothing. I over filled it and I'm thinking maybe by being over filled it's fouled a sensor in the gearbox maybe however I'm not sure what sensors are in it. I haven't left it over filled I'm in 100% certain iv not knocked anything. I didn't disconnect the battery as same as yourself I don't see the point unless it's something electrical. It's certainly going to drive me insane today trying to find out what happened
Iv fixed it. Don't ask me how but some how the crank position sensor had unplugged itself. Its at the rear of the engine nowhere near anything I did 😂
@@c4r5on88 Glad you have got it sorted. It could just have been one of those unlucky coincidences and the plug could have been loose for a while. If it goes again at least you'll know where to check first lol
@@ItsWhatIDo if you knew me you would say I have a lot of unlucky coincidences lol but yes iv picked up some ramps from where my projects are kept so tomorrow I'll try to get it held on properly. Just can't believe they decided the back of the engine is where they would put it
SORRY, on these gearboxes' you must NOT fill to the overflow!! Use 2.6l, end of!!
Which brings it to the overflow. There are several variations on these gearboxes so it will depend on what one. Oh and mine has been sweet as a nut since
That’s the 5 gear and some of the early 6 gears who need a special dipstick (only sold to Renault dealers) or precise measure of 2.6 liter! The gearbox in the video is another model.
nice video but id rather see how to remove that plastic cover than how to remove a wheel..
Thanks. It was a toss up what to cover and as unbelievable as it seems there are still people out there that do not know how to remove a wheel
Length of 10mm pipe and a funnel literally a 10 minute job
That would probably work but I didn't have one. Also not much room to get a funnel in there unless you come in from the top.
certainly not a mechanic with experience, are you?
well keep on practicing
Thanks for the comment. No I'm not a mechanic. I'm a home DIY person. Please feel free in creating your own video that corrects anything I've done wrong in this one.