Please don't switch to a third boat. Learn to master the gull first. If bouyancy in a capsize is your trouble, fix the leakage in the bow and add some more bouyancy tubes. You can find it by adding a valve (e.g. from a bike) to the lid and put some pressure on it. You might hear the whistling of the leakage. So far you are doing nicely. I very much like your vids, they remind me, how I started. Most important is time on the water even in challenging conditions. Practice and routine... It's like learning to ride a bike. Focus on how to solve the problem, not how to escape. 😉 Hope that helps you! Best wishes from cold, wet and dark Northern Germany!
Hi Dan and Row. Take a look at a GP14. Can be sailed single-handed, but is plenty big enough for 2. Most come with self-bailers for emptying the boat after a capsize. Suitable for racing or cruising.
The Wayfarer is ideal, it will seem a bit big for your ability right now, but you will both develop really quickly, and you’ll quickly realise how well suited to your needs it is. It’s not a quick dinghy but it is very forgiving, and very robust!
Thanks for your comment. We do love the Wayfarer and need to take it out again. We have done allot of learning in the Gull and so feel about ready to tackle the bigger boat…
I like the idea of investigating the gull’s ballast tanks and the steps to repair. Perhaps a gull “survey” of sorts. How to properly dress for winter sailing is a good info vid. Highlight the differences between yourself and your racing mate’s attire. I’ve enjoyed all of the vids very much. Keep up the great work!
I shall ponder, but the best advice so far is “what are the adult two handers at the club?”. The Wayf at 16’ probably is a bit big for the water. The Wanderer is a good suggestion and a better size at 14’. Our club has just bought an Argo (made by Topper) as a training boat and I have to say, I love it. 14’, modern design, resilient, assymetric, trapeze eventually yet also very docile, without feeling slow. You’re both ‘larger’ folk, so things like an Enterprise or a Graduate, which are often great couples boats might be a bit cramped, but are definitely worth a look. An RS200 is lovely and could be good for the water, but you’ll be a bit heavy still and it will still be a bit lively for you at this stage. If you want to go single handed, you look to have a lovely Solo fleet, but then I’m biased ;-) You’ll do better in a true single hander than trying to sail a two-sail kids boat on your own :-)
I like the sailing! Personally I think it might be difficult to to get a sailing vid out each week during the winter months. If your club is like mine it all slows down and weather is a big factor. As for boats look into what are popular double handed boats at your club. Advantage of this is if you start racing at the club you have someone to race against in the same boat so you can gauge how your doing also you might be able to get advice on setting the boat up ect. I learned to sail on my dads first boat an albacore as an 8 year old crewing for him. Just my 2 pence worth. Keep up the good vids
Thank you for your comment, honest and helpful. Yes, the weather is definitely a challenge as are the shorter days! Good idea to see what other members use as a double handed boat, although from what we've seen so far, it seems to mainly be single handed dinghies. How great to crew for your dad at 8 years old - what a way to learn! 👌
As others have said, the wayfarer is perfect for two. Could I suggest that you get a second Gull and keep it at your pond and race each other a bit of competition will soon sharpen your skills. Use the wayfarer for bigger trips. 5:55
A Wayfarer is a big boat and can accommodate 4 people, but at 16ft is a heavy boat. Old boats are great and cheap to buy, often cheaper than a trailer. The GP14 is 14 ft, (General Purpose) you can sail alone, row, paddle, sail or even fit a small outboard (Launch and retrieve solo) or with 2 people, it is manageable, has transom flaps to let out water after a capsize once you get moving and when on its side is not too high in the water to get it upright. Similarly the Wanderer is a 14ft version and similar to the Wayfarer, but can be sailed solo , launched and retrieved solo. With the Gull, (I would persevere) fill the front buoyancy compartment with empty plastic bottles and fix the leak. Better to have a small boat you can get out of the water easily than making sailing a workout due to the weight of your boat. Maybe it is possible to fit some transom flaps to the Gull ?
Hi guys, stick with the two boats you have. Fix the bow tank on the gull and you'll be fine. As you gain experience the Wayfarer will be your two up boat and the Gull a single hander. Make the videos you enjoy! I want to see both of you out having a great time rather than doing something that looks forced as you try to chase likes and subscribers. Best wishes Al
Thanks Al, sound advice, we couldn’t agree more. The channels we enjoy watching are definitely at their best when the people in it are enjoying themselves!
Try different boats. Most of those small dinghies like Gull were designed to be homemade, kit built after the war because there was tons of good quality marine plywood was available for rrasoable price. People tried to built things in their garages and you know how small the garages are in the UK. Wayfarer is a nice boat. There are others like Bosuns, 505, flying 15s etc. You have to try them. Don't get stuck on one type. You can make videos aboit different boats. I would be interested in comparisions of similar size dinghies. Good luck
@@3elmas Thank you for your comment and the suggestions, it would be great to try different dinghies ⛵️ we will have to speak nicely to our fellow club members! 😉
More Row please. How about dinghy camping ? Maybe when it's warmer ... Anything dinghy sailing is popular. I live in Cornwall and never sailed or been in or on the water ! - that'll change.
More Row please - definitely! 😉 Yes, dinghy camping is a great idea, something we have talked about for next year, it could be a lot of fun! Good luck with your "on the water" adventures!
Need to see you lovely guys sailing. Difficult this time of year though. Your Gull may be a touch too small but you already have the perfect boat…the Wayfarer. Big enough for you both and built to cope with the sea when you’re ready for it. It’s not too big for your lake, keep practicing in it. The gull and wayfarer both have adequate buoyancy designed into them. If they’re leaking they need fixing. As for the non sailing videos, I didn’t subscribe to see those to be honest.
Thank you for your honest feedback, it's really helpful to hear. Glad you are enjoying the sailing videos. We are aiming to get the Wayfarer back out again soon and are looking forward to that. ⛵️
I would be interested to see some learning navigation skills, it might also be interesting to hear more about what range of things dinghy sailors do In the uk and where are the most popular places. Have you seen the RYA dinghy trails on their website? You could start with the inshore ones and review them! I’d love that because I’m hoping to do one or two with my kids now I have passed my RYA1&2…. But I need a bit more practice first. Jonathan
Thanks Jonathan, excellent ideas 💡 We’ve never heard of the RYA dinghy trails, sounds exciting and could be a great help creating episodes for our channel. 👍
Hi from Brisbane in Australia guys. Your on the right track, you are coming up with good content and you make a great team. Only thing you need for your channel is time. Keep trying different angles and ideas Always going to be tough coming up with content going into winter in the UK, but I'm enjoying it. I think stick with the skills building and lake sailing but pull in on future plans so we are brought along on the journey. Also hunt around to collaborate with similar youtube channels always a good way to add numbers. Sending you love and sunshine. Gordon PS stick with the boats you have.
Thanks Gordon for your encouragement and ideas, much appreciated. We are determined to keep creating content through the winter 🥶 we will have to get creative. Glad you are enjoying the channel and thanks for the love & sunshine! 😎
Keep practising capsizing. It’s part and parcel of dinghy sailing. It’s fun! Grasp the nettle. If you’ve got a leaky boat, fix it. Tbh, I think the Wayfarer is the ideal boat for what you’re doing. If I were you I’d sell your Gull and put to to get the reefing systems sorted on the W. A word with Matt at Aeroluffspars will get you on the right track.
Thanks for your comment and for the recommendation, we have been intending to practise capsizing for a while just need to find the time and space to do it at the club! 👍
Following from Orlando, Florida. I also started sailing a couple of years ago. My first boat was a Precision 23 with a cabin. After about 6 months I concluded that it was too big for me, since I mostly sail single handed with no crew. I downsized to a Precision 18 (18 feet) which is perfect for me. I personally think that the two of you can easily handle and sail a larger boat, maybe around 22-24 feet.
Ooh… where are you sailing in Orlando? I’ve been out a couple of times with the Sailing Club of Central Florida and paid visit to Lake Eustis sc which was just gorgeous (but no wind so didn’t sail).
@tomski199 I sail mostly on Lake Monroe, Sanford. But I also travel around the state to different sailing events. Check my TH-cam channel. I have a lot of videos from my sailing trips around Florida.
Hi Dan and Roe. I like your sailing videos, both the Wayfarer and the Gull, particularly the Gull as late in the season last year I became the owner of a Gull too, albeit a slightly different version to yours. Like yourselves, I'm fairly new to sailing, so have much to learn, you two sharing your experiences and asking for comments on others similar experiences is a great way for us all to learn. I'm sorry to hear that your channel has taken a bit of a hit in popularity, it certainly hasn't done so with myself. It did surprise me to hear Dan say about the numbers dropping off. The other weekend, where I sail and keep my boat (Mudieford Quay, Christchurch), I was chatting to someone in the dinghy park, and when I mentioned I sailed a Gull, that told me how they had been watching your channel. Not an isolated incident, over the months I've had a few people say they have watched some of your videos. - I always tell them to, like the videos, subscribe to see more, post a comment even if it's just to say 'Hi', as all these things help with the TH-cam algorithm. What would I personally like to see more of, the sailing and boat related things. Liked the one about how you rigged your boat, also when you took your Gull to the sailing school. I think there's so many more along those lines you could do, for example, you've got a slight problem with water entering your front buoyancy tank, perhaps lets see how you're going to find the leak, then lets see how you fix it, what products you use and so on. Regards to you both, and don't give up on the channel. David.
Thank you David! Your comment was such an uplift to read, we really appreciate you taking the time to write it and many thanks for sharing our channel with fellow sailors, that's great! 👍⛵️
I don't think you need another boat. The gull looks fine and could even be singlehanded and although i'm not a fan of wayfarers it's certainly big enough for 2 full size adults. When you get more experienced and if you want to get into perfomance boats with trapeze and assymmetric spinnaker then of course you will need something else. I would concentrate on trying to get the most out of what you currently have and try and fix any leaks in your buoyancy tanks, or even put a buoyancy bag inside the tank if you can, then at least you know it can't sink. And think about self bailers, you may be able to "sail the boat dry" without actually bailing yourself (and yes I have experience of this in a hired wayfarer that I managed to turn over at Pugneys in Wakefield).
Hi guys, love your honest approach, similar journey, hoping to get started next year, I’ve been considering the Wanderer. It’s the size between your two boats, and could cope with soloing and couple of larger more robust types 😅.
Yaaahrrr, mates. I have two boats like you. One is a Macgregor 25 (7.6 meters) and the other is a Boston Whaler 4.6 (15 feet.) A Boston Whaler 4.6 or a bigger boat, a Whaler 5.2, would fill the bill for you. They are very fast, very durable, very forgiving and very fun to sail. And when you become proficient you can rob and plunder like good pirates because with a swing keel and a fast outboard you can escape into channels the King's sailors can follow you into.
Yaaahrrr, maties. The King's captains be wantin' t' 'ang we good pirates. First we be gettin' a letter o' marque from the King and later he be friends again with the French and he take it away. Be it not for all the warrants I go a marchin' into the palace and 'ave a word with the King meself, Aaahrrr!@@DanandRow
Interesting that you have a gull. I've got a 1970s gull and it's a good solo cruiser and family boat with kids that I use with an outboard to fish off as well as rowing and sailing. At boat life live last year I saw Hartley boats that make gulls and Wayfairers in Derby. I was very tempted by a wanderer which is the same family and style but midsize so probably what you're after. As a Channel idea as you seem to be the Ian Proctor fan club why don't you try and visit their factory and film it?
That’s is a fantastic idea, to visit the Ian Procter factory… If they will have us we will definitely make that video. We will also check out the wanderer, and boat life live. Thanks for commenting 👍
Really enjoy the videos and thanks for sharing the journey you're on. My thoughts would be 14" long as a goldilocks length for trolley launching. T(he Wayfarer is a good boat but really designed to sit on a mooring) Chined hull good for stability think- Leader, Wanderer, GP14, or Enterprise which is slightly shorter with larger sail area would be good for your lake.
As soon as you're ready, sell the Gull and invest the money in the Wayfarer. You're the perfect size and weight for it, its size on your lake will just push you to gybe and tack more, improving your boat handling. Get some fresher (secondhand) sails from a racer (they're forever replacing sails, so will sell off sails in great condition), get a local sailmaker to add two sets of reefs and the necessary hardware on your boat. Get a furling jib set up. Get a properly balanced combi trailer! And then start dinghy cruising. Wayfarers are great for cruising, and they're popular so hold their value well. If you set her up right you'll get a good return on your investment should you sell. And they're big, powerful rigs - Wayfarers ARE fast! Not modern race boat fast, but plenty exciting enough for you. And read Roger Barnes's book and watch his videos for inspiration. Good luck!
For me why make your sailing more difficult if you're not happy with the boat then change it! Of you're wanting a capeable fun boat i would say laser 2000. More modern designs, parts/upgrades available, active class.
Your videos are great. Good luck. Both your boats are great. Just stick with them both! Please think about joining Dinghy Cruising Association members and lots of others at La Semaine du Golfe 2025! You won't regret it.
@@DanandRowI’d second the albacore comment. I have one that I sail in Tewkesbury if you wanted to see what one is. Loving the channel just going through the videos which is why this comment is 5 months behind
Hi Dan and Row, from North Carolina. I would wager a guess that your drop in video viewership is not so much related to your lovely hike, but to some anomalous change in a YT algorithm. My reasoning is that you have only several hundred subscribers, while your viewership has been 2-3k. It seems to me that it has to be a drop in opportunity for views amongst random people, and Not some affront to your regular viewers. Keep doing what you’re doing! All the best… Lori
Please don't switch to a third boat. Learn to master the gull first. If bouyancy in a capsize is your trouble, fix the leakage in the bow and add some more bouyancy tubes. You can find it by adding a valve (e.g. from a bike) to the lid and put some pressure on it. You might hear the whistling of the leakage.
So far you are doing nicely. I very much like your vids, they remind me, how I started. Most important is time on the water even in challenging conditions. Practice and routine... It's like learning to ride a bike. Focus on how to solve the problem, not how to escape. 😉
Hope that helps you!
Best wishes from cold, wet and dark Northern Germany!
Thank you for your comment, it's great to hear where people are watching from! Great suggestions, we will persevere... 😀
Hi Dan and Row. Take a look at a GP14. Can be sailed single-handed, but is plenty big enough for 2. Most come with self-bailers for emptying the boat after a capsize. Suitable for racing or cruising.
Hey! Thank you for your comment, we have a friend at the club who has a GP14 (all wooden) and we are hoping to go out in soon!! ⛵️
The Wayfarer is ideal, it will seem a bit big for your ability right now, but you will both develop really quickly, and you’ll quickly realise how well suited to your needs it is. It’s not a quick dinghy but it is very forgiving, and very robust!
Thanks for your comment. We do love the Wayfarer and need to take it out again. We have done allot of learning in the Gull and so feel about ready to tackle the bigger boat…
I like the idea of investigating the gull’s ballast tanks and the steps to repair. Perhaps a gull “survey” of sorts. How to properly dress for winter sailing is a good info vid. Highlight the differences between yourself and your racing mate’s attire. I’ve enjoyed all of the vids very much. Keep up the great work!
Really good suggestions, they are great content ideas and will push us to have to learn more! Much appreciated 👍
I shall ponder, but the best advice so far is “what are the adult two handers at the club?”.
The Wayf at 16’ probably is a bit big for the water. The Wanderer is a good suggestion and a better size at 14’.
Our club has just bought an Argo (made by Topper) as a training boat and I have to say, I love it. 14’, modern design, resilient, assymetric, trapeze eventually yet also very docile, without feeling slow.
You’re both ‘larger’ folk, so things like an Enterprise or a Graduate, which are often great couples boats might be a bit cramped, but are definitely worth a look. An RS200 is lovely and could be good for the water, but you’ll be a bit heavy still and it will still be a bit lively for you at this stage.
If you want to go single handed, you look to have a lovely Solo fleet, but then I’m biased ;-)
You’ll do better in a true single hander than trying to sail a two-sail kids boat on your own :-)
Lots of food for thought, thanks for taking the time to share your ideas much appreciated 👍⛵️
I like the sailing! Personally I think it might be difficult to to get a sailing vid out each week during the winter months. If your club is like mine it all slows down and weather is a big factor. As for boats look into what are popular double handed boats at your club. Advantage of this is if you start racing at the club you have someone to race against in the same boat so you can gauge how your doing also you might be able to get advice on setting the boat up ect. I learned to sail on my dads first boat an albacore as an 8 year old crewing for him. Just my 2 pence worth. Keep up the good vids
Thank you for your comment, honest and helpful. Yes, the weather is definitely a challenge as are the shorter days! Good idea to see what other members use as a double handed boat, although from what we've seen so far, it seems to mainly be single handed dinghies. How great to crew for your dad at 8 years old - what a way to learn! 👌
As others have said, the wayfarer is perfect for two. Could I suggest that you get a second Gull and keep it at your pond and race each other a bit of competition will soon sharpen your skills. Use the wayfarer for bigger trips.
5:55
Many thanks for the comment and suggestions! 👍
A Wayfarer is a big boat and can accommodate 4 people, but at 16ft is a heavy boat. Old boats are great and cheap to buy, often cheaper than a trailer.
The GP14 is 14 ft, (General Purpose) you can sail alone, row, paddle, sail or even fit a small outboard (Launch and retrieve solo) or with 2 people, it is manageable, has transom flaps to let out water after a capsize once you get moving and when on its side is not too high in the water to get it upright. Similarly the Wanderer is a 14ft version and similar to the Wayfarer, but can be sailed solo , launched and retrieved solo.
With the Gull, (I would persevere) fill the front buoyancy compartment with empty plastic bottles and fix the leak. Better to have a small boat you can get out of the water easily than making sailing a workout due to the weight of your boat. Maybe it is possible to fit some transom flaps to the Gull ?
Thank you for taking the time to comment, it’s much appreciated and very helpful! 👍
Hi guys, stick with the two boats you have. Fix the bow tank on the gull and you'll be fine. As you gain experience the Wayfarer will be your two up boat and the Gull a single hander.
Make the videos you enjoy! I want to see both of you out having a great time rather than doing something that looks forced as you try to chase likes and subscribers.
Best wishes
Al
Thanks Al, sound advice, we couldn’t agree more. The channels we enjoy watching are definitely at their best when the people in it are enjoying themselves!
Try different boats. Most of those small dinghies like Gull were designed to be homemade, kit built after the war because there was tons of good quality marine plywood was available for rrasoable price. People tried to built things in their garages and you know how small the garages are in the UK. Wayfarer is a nice boat. There are others like Bosuns, 505, flying 15s etc. You have to try them. Don't get stuck on one type. You can make videos aboit different boats. I would be interested in comparisions of similar size dinghies. Good luck
@@3elmas Thank you for your comment and the suggestions, it would be great to try different dinghies ⛵️ we will have to speak nicely to our fellow club members! 😉
More Row please. How about dinghy camping ? Maybe when it's warmer ... Anything dinghy sailing is popular.
I live in Cornwall and never sailed or been in or on the water ! - that'll change.
More Row please - definitely! 😉 Yes, dinghy camping is a great idea, something we have talked about for next year, it could be a lot of fun! Good luck with your "on the water" adventures!
Need to see you lovely guys sailing. Difficult this time of year though. Your Gull may be a touch too small but you already have the perfect boat…the Wayfarer. Big enough for you both and built to cope with the sea when you’re ready for it. It’s not too big for your lake, keep practicing in it. The gull and wayfarer both have adequate buoyancy designed into them. If they’re leaking they need fixing. As for the non sailing videos, I didn’t subscribe to see those to be honest.
Thank you for your honest feedback, it's really helpful to hear. Glad you are enjoying the sailing videos. We are aiming to get the Wayfarer back out again soon and are looking forward to that. ⛵️
I would be interested to see some learning navigation skills, it might also be interesting to hear more about what range of things dinghy sailors do
In the uk and where are the most popular places. Have you seen the RYA dinghy trails on their website? You could start with the inshore ones and review them! I’d love that because I’m hoping to do one or two with my kids now I have passed my RYA1&2…. But I need a bit more practice first. Jonathan
Thanks Jonathan, excellent ideas 💡 We’ve never heard of the RYA dinghy trails, sounds exciting and could be a great help creating episodes for our channel. 👍
Hi from Brisbane in Australia guys. Your on the right track, you are coming up with good content and you make a great team. Only thing you need for your channel is time. Keep trying different angles and ideas Always going to be tough coming up with content going into winter in the UK, but I'm enjoying it. I think stick with the skills building and lake sailing but pull in on future plans so we are brought along on the journey. Also hunt around to collaborate with similar youtube channels always a good way to add numbers. Sending you love and sunshine.
Gordon
PS stick with the boats you have.
Thanks Gordon for your encouragement and ideas, much appreciated. We are determined to keep creating content through the winter 🥶 we will have to get creative. Glad you are enjoying the channel and thanks for the love & sunshine! 😎
Keep practising capsizing. It’s part and parcel of dinghy sailing. It’s fun! Grasp the nettle.
If you’ve got a leaky boat, fix it. Tbh, I think the Wayfarer is the ideal boat for what you’re doing. If I were you I’d sell your Gull and put to to get the reefing systems sorted on the W. A word with Matt at Aeroluffspars will get you on the right track.
Thanks for your comment and for the recommendation, we have been intending to practise capsizing for a while just need to find the time and space to do it at the club! 👍
Wayfarer is always goood. Mine 6445 is a blast.
Great, we are looking forward to getting out on our Wayfarer more!
Following from Orlando, Florida. I also started sailing a couple of years ago. My first boat was a Precision 23 with a cabin. After about 6 months I concluded that it was too big for me, since I mostly sail single handed with no crew. I downsized to a Precision 18 (18 feet) which is perfect for me. I personally think that the two of you can easily handle and sail a larger boat, maybe around 22-24 feet.
Great to hear your story and thanks for sharing. A bigger boat sounds exciting, definitely something we will look into in the future!
Ooh… where are you sailing in Orlando? I’ve been out a couple of times with the Sailing Club of Central Florida and paid visit to Lake Eustis sc which was just gorgeous (but no wind so didn’t sail).
@tomski199 I sail mostly on Lake Monroe, Sanford. But I also travel around the state to different sailing events. Check my TH-cam channel. I have a lot of videos from my sailing trips around Florida.
You could get the Wayfarer's little sister, a Wanderer, or maybe a Scamp- tho' a used one is likely to be rare as hen's teeth.
We've never heard of a Scamp! Sounds interesting, we will look it up, thank you. Hen's teeth - great expression!
Hi Dan and Roe.
I like your sailing videos, both the Wayfarer and the Gull, particularly the Gull as late in the season last year I became the owner of a Gull too, albeit a slightly different version to yours. Like yourselves, I'm fairly new to sailing, so have much to learn, you two sharing your experiences and asking for comments on others similar experiences is a great way for us all to learn.
I'm sorry to hear that your channel has taken a bit of a hit in popularity, it certainly hasn't done so with myself. It did surprise me to hear Dan say about the numbers dropping off. The other weekend, where I sail and keep my boat (Mudieford Quay, Christchurch), I was chatting to someone in the dinghy park, and when I mentioned I sailed a Gull, that told me how they had been watching your channel. Not an isolated incident, over the months I've had a few people say they have watched some of your videos. - I always tell them to, like the videos, subscribe to see more, post a comment even if it's just to say 'Hi', as all these things help with the TH-cam algorithm.
What would I personally like to see more of, the sailing and boat related things. Liked the one about how you rigged your boat, also when you took your Gull to the sailing school. I think there's so many more along those lines you could do, for example, you've got a slight problem with water entering your front buoyancy tank, perhaps lets see how you're going to find the leak, then lets see how you fix it, what products you use and so on.
Regards to you both, and don't give up on the channel. David.
Thank you David! Your comment was such an uplift to read, we really appreciate you taking the time to write it and many thanks for sharing our channel with fellow sailors, that's great! 👍⛵️
A good boat could be a laser vago. Its good for cruising and racing and just an overall great boat. keep up the great work guys
Thanks for your encouragement and suggestion. 👍
I don't think you need another boat. The gull looks fine and could even be singlehanded and although i'm not a fan of wayfarers it's certainly big enough for 2 full size adults. When you get more experienced and if you want to get into perfomance boats with trapeze and assymmetric spinnaker then of course you will need something else. I would concentrate on trying to get the most out of what you currently have and try and fix any leaks in your buoyancy tanks, or even put a buoyancy bag inside the tank if you can, then at least you know it can't sink. And think about self bailers, you may be able to "sail the boat dry" without actually bailing yourself (and yes I have experience of this in a hired wayfarer that I managed to turn over at Pugneys in Wakefield).
Thanks for your comment and the info. 👍 Getting the most of what we have and fixing the buoyancy tanks is the way we are almost certainly going to go…
Hi guys, love your honest approach, similar journey, hoping to get started next year, I’ve been considering the Wanderer. It’s the size between your two boats, and could cope with soloing and couple of larger more robust types 😅.
😂 We like the sound of a wanderer, we may well end up with a collection of all the boats Ian Proctor designed! ⛵️
Yaaahrrr, mates. I have two boats like you. One is a Macgregor 25 (7.6 meters) and the other is a Boston Whaler 4.6 (15 feet.) A Boston Whaler 4.6 or a bigger boat, a Whaler 5.2, would fill the bill for you. They are very fast, very durable, very forgiving and very fun to sail. And when you become proficient you can rob and plunder like good pirates because with a swing keel and a fast outboard you can escape into channels the King's sailors can follow you into.
🤣 Ahoy! That made us both laugh, we shall 'ave t' up our skills if we be t' avoid capture aft a good plunderin' 🏴☠️
Yaaahrrr, maties. The King's captains be wantin' t' 'ang we good pirates. First we be gettin' a letter o' marque from the King and later he be friends again with the French and he take it away. Be it not for all the warrants I go a marchin' into the palace and 'ave a word with the King meself, Aaahrrr!@@DanandRow
Interesting that you have a gull. I've got a 1970s gull and it's a good solo cruiser and family boat with kids that I use with an outboard to fish off as well as rowing and sailing. At boat life live last year I saw Hartley boats that make gulls and Wayfairers in Derby. I was very tempted by a wanderer which is the same family and style but midsize so probably what you're after. As a Channel idea as you seem to be the Ian Proctor fan club why don't you try and visit their factory and film it?
That’s is a fantastic idea, to visit the Ian Procter factory… If they will have us we will definitely make that video. We will also check out the wanderer, and boat life live. Thanks for commenting 👍
Really enjoy the videos and thanks for sharing the journey you're on. My thoughts would be 14" long as a goldilocks length for trolley launching. T(he Wayfarer is a good boat but really designed to sit on a mooring) Chined hull good for stability think- Leader, Wanderer, GP14, or Enterprise which is slightly shorter with larger sail area would be good for your lake.
Thank you for your comment and the helpful suggestions, it’s much appreciated. It’s great to hear that you are enjoying the journey ⛵️
As soon as you're ready, sell the Gull and invest the money in the Wayfarer. You're the perfect size and weight for it, its size on your lake will just push you to gybe and tack more, improving your boat handling. Get some fresher (secondhand) sails from a racer (they're forever replacing sails, so will sell off sails in great condition), get a local sailmaker to add two sets of reefs and the necessary hardware on your boat. Get a furling jib set up. Get a properly balanced combi trailer! And then start dinghy cruising. Wayfarers are great for cruising, and they're popular so hold their value well. If you set her up right you'll get a good return on your investment should you sell. And they're big, powerful rigs - Wayfarers ARE fast! Not modern race boat fast, but plenty exciting enough for you. And read Roger Barnes's book and watch his videos for inspiration. Good luck!
Wayfarer is a good boat might be worth doing a competent crew course in the new year be great fun and learn some more skills
Thank you for your suggestion, it’s something we have been discussing to do in the future. 👍
For me why make your sailing more difficult if you're not happy with the boat then change it! Of you're wanting a capeable fun boat i would say laser 2000. More modern designs, parts/upgrades available, active class.
Thank you for your comment and for the recommendation, we are learning a lot about different options, it’s great!
Your videos are great. Good luck. Both your boats are great. Just stick with them both! Please think about joining Dinghy Cruising Association members and lots of others at La Semaine du Golfe 2025! You won't regret it.
Thank you for the encouraging comment! Glad you are enjoying the vids. We will definitely take a look at the dinghy cruising event next year. ⛵️
Good question.
Look at an Albacore, loads of room, copes well with 2, 14 stone blokes, races well and stable
Great, many thanks, we will take a look a look at an Albacore 👍
@@DanandRowI’d second the albacore comment. I have one that I sail in Tewkesbury if you wanted to see what one is. Loving the channel just going through the videos which is why this comment is 5 months behind
@@Ollyhop thank you 🙏
A 14’ would be ideal, plenty of gp14s around.
Thank you, we have a friend at the club with one so we are hoping to try it out soon!
Hi Dan and Row, from North Carolina. I would wager a guess that your drop in video viewership is not so much related to your lovely hike, but to some anomalous change in a YT algorithm. My reasoning is that you have only several hundred subscribers, while your viewership has been 2-3k. It seems to me that it has to be a drop in opportunity for views amongst random people, and Not some affront to your regular viewers. Keep doing what you’re doing! All the best…
Lori
Thanks for your insight and encouragement, that pesky YT algorithm 🙃! Great to hear from North Carolina 👋
Sail, sail, sail. Its sailboat channel. I skipped the Hill video and have no intention to see it.
Thanks for the honesty, the feedback really helps. 👍
Gp14
Yes, we are hoping to crew in our friends soon!