I'm good with sympathetic villains like Two Face. Where I can empathize with their fall from grace but not necessarily have them become a hero in their own right. But if you are going to do a heel face turn it needs to be justified and gradual. It's especially unbelievable when the villains doesn't have an actual heroic character to model their behaviour after or have no clear arc that shows how villainy cost them a great deal. It was believable in comics or even spiderman 1994 animated series that certain villainous characters could LEARN to be heroic after many many failed attempts and considerable contact with a heroic figure (i.e. spiderman). It's less believable when the character in isolation and their entire life is shaped by violence or tragedy and they decide on the basis of a love interest to "beat the odds" and become a good guy. Even spiderman only pulled off his rise to heroism after uncle ben died. He started out pretty freaking selfish in the comics and the original film continuity.
Here goes hate bandwagon even before a movie is released. These kind of TH-cam channels have heavy impact on any movie Industry as it manipulates audiences the movie and it doesn't generate revenue. Stop this nonsense and watch the movie if you are a real Marvel fan. Cinema and Comics are different.
@jimbo9208 whatchu mean I didn't even know wicked was a movie till this week! Any movie noon superhero I'm not gonna know. I don't do commercials. I got TH-cam premium so I don't see commercials here if you think I saw it here
Madame Web was by far the worst movie I've ever seen. The good guys ran for there lives from the spidey guy all through the movie and didn't get their powers until the movie actually ended and the Madame Web characters powers had nothing to do with webs or spiders.
Why does everybody start shedding tears at the first mention that a movie is a "superhero genre" movie. A good movie is writing, acting and directing. Always. Period. Genre doesn't matter. Our current presidential selection is proof that shows how easily people can be manipulated to believe a movie is going to be a flop or a hit. Sadly the intellect in this country has gotten so much worse than anyone could have imagined.
Morbius was close to being good, but that script was a stinker. Good actors, decent CGI, ok director. If the scrip was better, i think it would have made it a much better movie. And he's a frickin vampire, should have been R rated!
Nothing else is showing at the time. People could just not go to the theater until there's more selection. If all the pizzeria had was asparagus pizza, would they expect to do the same business as normal?
Sony already doom the Kraven movie at the box office. Did Sony forget other movies coming out for the holidays like sonic 3? Of all the months they could have release the movie in theaters like February or March with less competition. They foolishly going to release the movie in December. And thanks to Sony previous films people are going to hesitate to see Kraven in theaters.
Why? The trailers actually look ed pretty decent thus far Edit: this is a speculative and presumptive video. No concrete analytics just grasping at basic things like “Kraven is a lesser known villain”
Superhero Movies are dying. Mystic Movies are coming in hot. Even the big players with the new DCU and Doomsday are gonna be surprised how they don't make much of an impact. Its because they are filled with helium now. There is no weight behind the empty hero's journey.
AS I PREDICTED, THIS IS THE UNFORTUNATE DOWNFALL OF SONY SPIDER-VERSE SPIN-OFF FILMS EXCEPT FOR "VENOM" BECAUSE IT BELONGS TO MCU NOW! LMFAO! 🕷️🕸️🎞️🎬🎥👍🤣
@gregjaro-mk7zs yeah I get that. Vemon 3 was pretty good and I am still going to watch kraven because still looks good but rest have been pretty disappointing
No spiderman whole reason these villains exist. Making stand-alone films with no strings to Spider-Man is okay not great. Sony is just greedy. Marvel's including him in the universe makes it great. 🎉
Omg kraven is a bad guy morbius is a bad guy venom is a bad guy Deadpool is a bad guy why do they keep making killers of women and children good guys stop
Do you think "Kraven" will be the biggest Marvel flop?
I think it's Madam Web, but Kraven not have credits, that's not good...
@@Looper yes just like your videos
Not Marvel
Not every villain needs to be transformed into a sympathetic anti-hero
Right kraven ain't even a hero
Penguin showed what should be obvious to the rest of Entertainment industry.
Exactly
They changed that with reshoots I think, we are going to see him become a villain instead of an anti-hero.
I'm good with sympathetic villains like Two Face. Where I can empathize with their fall from grace but not necessarily have them become a hero in their own right. But if you are going to do a heel face turn it needs to be justified and gradual. It's especially unbelievable when the villains doesn't have an actual heroic character to model their behaviour after or have no clear arc that shows how villainy cost them a great deal. It was believable in comics or even spiderman 1994 animated series that certain villainous characters could LEARN to be heroic after many many failed attempts and considerable contact with a heroic figure (i.e. spiderman). It's less believable when the character in isolation and their entire life is shaped by violence or tragedy and they decide on the basis of a love interest to "beat the odds" and become a good guy. Even spiderman only pulled off his rise to heroism after uncle ben died. He started out pretty freaking selfish in the comics and the original film continuity.
Why is no one talking about the fact that the first Kraven trailer is beat for beat the same as the first Morbius trailer?!
@@Josephdquinn who actually even saw both trailers let us be honest here
Let alone the movies.
Audiences just aren't Kraven another superhero movie 😁
Hyuck hyuck hyuck! 👋
If he doesn't say, "it's Kraven' Time" we're rioting!
Here goes hate bandwagon even before a movie is released. These kind of TH-cam channels have heavy impact on any movie Industry as it manipulates audiences the movie and it doesn't generate revenue. Stop this nonsense and watch the movie if you are a real Marvel fan. Cinema and Comics are different.
Let's be honest you didn't have to make this video. We all know it's gonna be a flop
that what you said about wicked and yet
@jimbo9208 whatchu mean I didn't even know wicked was a movie till this week! Any movie noon superhero I'm not gonna know. I don't do commercials. I got TH-cam premium so I don't see commercials here if you think I saw it here
Making movies featuring Spider-Man characters without any connection to Spider-Man always felt like a mistake to me, am I the only one?
Please let this be the last sony Marvel movie, 🙏 😢!
I still haven't seen Morbius or Madame Web so let's make it a trifecta and skip this one too.
Madame Web was by far the worst movie I've ever seen. The good guys ran for there lives from the spidey guy all through the movie and didn't get their powers until the movie actually ended and the Madame Web characters powers had nothing to do with webs or spiders.
Don't care i'm still gonna see this movie
Me 2
It should be fun like Venom, Deadpool, Blade and Logan.
AT Johnson is fine af, so I'll probably watch it for that reason 😁😉
Good! i hope this teaches sony a lesson.
Why does everybody start shedding tears at the first mention that a movie is a
"superhero genre" movie.
A good movie is writing, acting and directing. Always. Period.
Genre doesn't matter.
Our current presidential selection is proof that shows how easily people can be manipulated to believe a movie is going to be a flop or a hit.
Sadly the intellect in this country has gotten so much worse than anyone could have imagined.
Fun fact. Kraven the hunter is actually the prequel to Super Troopers
I actually forgot about this movie. Only heard of it early on and no marketing since then.
Quality is something completely alien to Sony's 'Spiderverse'. Its not even a challenge to the Worst of the DCEU.
Shame it actually looks really good and I will still be watching it
Waited too long to releases.. Killed it's self
how
@@kirkrobinson1745 even if it came out when it was supposed to do you honestly believe it would make profit?
Morbius was close to being good, but that script was a stinker. Good actors, decent CGI, ok director. If the scrip was better, i think it would have made it a much better movie. And he's a frickin vampire, should have been R rated!
Nothing else is showing at the time. People could just not go to the theater until there's more selection.
If all the pizzeria had was asparagus pizza, would they expect to do the same business as normal?
This is why I didn't even bother with venom 3 😂
Haven't they already begun to cover up Kraven's connection to the SSU ..?
when was it ever looking good for this movie
Will wait for the audience reviews
I'll watch it. But "White Panther" looks corny
Kraven should get the Batgirl treatment.
I see you trying to hype the War of the Rohirrim. I'm already excited!
So is this supposed to be a Crocodile Dundee reboot?
I’m not a bandwagon type person. I’m not here to bash movies before it even comes out. It looks ok from the trailers. I’ll check it out.
I WOULD CHECK IT OUT WHEN IT COMES OUT IT MIGHT BE GOOD
I thought that was scrapped still glad to see it's mot
This film is 2hrs 7 min which is pretty long… tbh let’s all hope it be enjoyable great story action film
What if Kravens turns out to be good not the best but actually good.
Its probably gonna be better than gladiator 2. I still regret checking that one out
Imagine if he comes back in Kick A55 3. 😅
I gonna see the movie, this movie is underrated
I think it looks cool.
Sony, maybe you should give the Spider-Man rights back to Marvel.
Sony already doom the Kraven movie at the box office. Did Sony forget other movies coming out for the holidays like sonic 3? Of all the months they could have release the movie in theaters like February or March with less competition. They foolishly going to release the movie in December. And thanks to Sony previous films people are going to hesitate to see Kraven in theaters.
I honestly forgot this was a thing, no offence.
I’m excited for it
Madam Web bad guy these are all villains
Kraven needs to hunt spider man
I believe you. Looks really bad. Some story changes,Spider-Man doesn't appear. I get it. Read comments too
Kraven hunter is a villain and trying to make him a antihero is just dumb in my opinion.
Literally just saw one of the trailers and didn't even see Rhino...0 hype
Sony flopping like a fish from this to concord it's bad
Three words...still no spider man
No matter what, it's gonna be better than Thor love and thunder
Why? The trailers actually look ed pretty decent thus far
Edit: this is a speculative and presumptive video. No concrete analytics just grasping at basic things like “Kraven is a lesser known villain”
I don't care. I want to go and see it anyway.
Superhero Movies are dying. Mystic Movies are coming in hot. Even the big players with the new DCU and Doomsday are gonna be surprised how they don't make much of an impact. Its because they are filled with helium now. There is no weight behind the empty hero's journey.
i mean, who is going to see that ?
Sony should sell the rights back to Marvel
I just realized Russell Crowe is in Kraven the Hunter and Thor: love and thunder
Aka the 2 worst/decent Marvel/ Mcu movies
AS I PREDICTED, THIS IS THE UNFORTUNATE DOWNFALL OF SONY SPIDER-VERSE SPIN-OFF FILMS EXCEPT FOR "VENOM" BECAUSE IT BELONGS TO MCU NOW! LMFAO! 🕷️🕸️🎞️🎬🎥👍🤣
It doesn't though its still sonys
I DON'T CARE BECAUSE SONY NEVER FAILS TO DISAPPOINT MCU FANS AFTER ALL, LMFAO! 🕷️🕸️💔🎞️🎬🎥👎🤣
@gregjaro-mk7zs yeah I get that. Vemon 3 was pretty good and I am still going to watch kraven because still looks good but rest have been pretty disappointing
Of course being Negative gets the Clicks. I take each movie on it’s on Merits. We shall see in about Twenty Days.
i mean Arron will carry the film 🤙🏼
yeah no even if it's R rated it won't save the movie or be good
this film will get killed by Sonic 3
Superhero fatigue
This guy voice of this video!!! Sound same guy does bud manga videos
Just bring spiderman in these movies
Bares all the hallmarks of yet another Sony flop
Song doesn’t know how to make marvel movies. I said it.
No spiderman whole reason these villains exist. Making stand-alone films with no strings to Spider-Man is okay not great. Sony is just greedy. Marvel's including him in the universe makes it great. 🎉
Omg kraven is a bad guy morbius is a bad guy venom is a bad guy Deadpool is a bad guy why do they keep making killers of women and children good guys stop
I’ve been dying to watch tjis
To begin with, nobody asked for it🤦😮💨
We are done with Tarzan typ3 of movies. A white man getting Sahara powers will never workout. Last Samurai type ish than Shang Chi
ATJ is just not a movie star. He’s not really even an actor. Does anyone care about this nonsense anyway??
Jumping on the critical drinker bandwagon
Petty much? Looper??
Haaaahahahahahhaaaa 😊
Flop
Pre judgmental. Give a chance