Why Not to Buy a Chevy with Traction Control
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- Traction control. Why not to buy a Chevy with traction control, car review with Scotty Kilmer. Car fails and why GM cars have traction control problems that are expensive to repair. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 47 years.
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Scotty Kilmer now if it breaks on mine am I still able to drive it without replacing it.
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The Ford "Advanced Track System" is no better. My 2015 F250 says "Service Advance Track" intermediantly when ever it feels like it. No patterns or certain situations set it off. I let the Ford dealership have the truck for 10 days to try and figure it out. They replaced the computers and checked the entire electrical system. All the sensors. All the related sub systems (like ABS). Nothing. All under the 3yr factory warrenty. Nobody can figure it out. They said this is particularly common among the SUVs like the Explorer. So i just gave up on it. Learned to ignore it. Lol.
I bought a used junkyard brake modulator and pump for Acura CL - was at 5years in car worked great saved 900dollars vs dealer only.
I feel like Scotty is always yelling at me.
It is normal for people who talk nonsense to yell. Otherwise no one will be listening. So don't listen to Scotty, everyone knows the roadhandling of US cars is terrible so you should always buy a US car with traction control.
Most drivers are thick skulled.. got to yell to get the message across.
Thatguy101987 he is !
Dannie Bouwman American cars are shit nowadays
Chedr89 AGGGGGG
The angles Scotty uses when he records makes me cry of laughter. I don't even have a car I just watch him because he is the best
Yeah, just take the bulb out of the dash....soon forget you had any problem. Vehicles are getting too smart.... I'd never get a new car, in fact. The older the better!
+69Phuket this doesnt have a bulb, it uses hidden leds inside a unit so you can't even do that.
+Scotty Kilmer black sharpie.
***** like some people who put mats in to protect the mats then mats to protect the mats ... to protect the mats ...lol ive actually seen that
+Terrence Gold My coworker won't even use the mats. She said fuck the carpet, i'll put the mats in when I get rid of the car. It'll look better and car is easier to clean without the mats in the way. She's also crazy.
***** or means add more oil lmao
Everyone can get better traction for free!!!! It's called slow the fuck down and learn how to drive, act like everyone's life depends on it, because it does.
+CrustyHO Stop with the logic or heads will begin exploding!
Sounds like the kind of mindless virtue signaling bullshit that belongs at the kid's table.
Thank you!!! Couldn't say it any better... 👍👍👍
I am 18, dont own a car. Why am I watching this? Because Scotty is so entertaining :DD
same
Save up! I have 2 cars and I'm 18.
git gud, i have 3.
tbh there's better things to spend savings on than a car.
+Laythe its almost impossible or hard to buy a car in Singapore at a young age. To buy a car, we need to pay $60,000 to own a paper for us to legally buy car. so, its damn expensive to own a car here
I've got a F-juan150
Ford fan ?
seeya205 Fix Or Repair Daily lol
If Hank says it, I believe it lol
Ford or Chrysler then?
+Argantonis Stay away from both.
Pull the traction fuse lol
You're altima is fresh af bro
Jason Jimenez thanks man. Got some big plans for her next summer
+rodeo o yea I know I've already had to replace the starter, the two cats and valve cover on mine, and my valves tick crazy
Never buy a 2002 to 2006 Altima they are worthless JUNK.
+misamisatv I have an 02 altima 3.5, burns a quart of oil between changes but, trouble free since ive owned it, has 341,000 km right now :), take care of a car, do preventative maintenance and these nissan`s will go 500,000km...while burning a little oil in the process
Buying used brake parts makes as much sense as buying used tampons.
Nutz4Gunz45 Hahahaha!
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The old expression "good enough for government work", still rings true with GM.
This is why I drive a 1972 step van, no traction control to break, no power steering to leak, no power windows or power anything actually. Nothing says simple like a pull handle choke on a carb!
Great videos Scotty, I'm a fan.
I have a 2002 camaro ss with traction control and 110k miles in it still works like a charm no problems what so ever.
I had a 2002 z28 camaro with 150,000 miles never rebuilt anything on it and the service engine light came up once during the 3 years of ownership I had it and it was because of a loose gas cap. Now I have a 2000 camaro ss with 95,000 with the manual transmission which is what I wanted and so far only the radiator fan has been replaced
+Dmax734 man i love my camaro 6 speed manual , has never gave me a problem in 5 years of ownership
My z28 was getting kinda boring and it was cheaper to sell it and get a 6 speed instead of swapping it
+LSX Tapia Had an 05 Tahoe with over 100k miles, no major issues than burning a little oil (about a quart every 5k miles). That truck had a lot of life left in her.
+LSX Tapia Those 4th gen f bodys are pretty reliable..............I got one myself
99% of chevys I have been in have the TC light on. My dads chevy 2500 has the light on. We just live with it. Sucks that they would make such a faulty part
With that milage it should be underwarranty.
nope, I tried, it's too old
damn, that sucks. things still brand new.
I must be lucky, 05 malibu with 120k and the traction control still works. it eats front wheel bearings though lol. and the rockers are gone.
No extended warranty?
Even if it was still under warranty they would not fix it. 2005 I had a 2004 gmc 2500hd with around 21,000 miles that had the same problem and said it not covered under warranty by 5 different dealer ships. So I sold that pos and bought a 2003 Ford 250 and still have today with 467,893 exact miles
hey scotty i saw in another vid comment you mentioned that you never bought a new car, i really respect you for that! I'm 35 and am still making minimum wage and its such a struggle to get through each day and i hate when people always have to show off to say "i am better than you", especially when so many people each year commit suicide because of financial struggles, even here in the US.
I almost crashed earlier and the TC is what helped me correct instead of spinning out. TC is a good thing to have.
I've had a lot of gm cars with traction control some up to 200,000 miles on them never had one break.
mbsnyderc This is one of the first videos he became extremely biased against certain car brands, especially GM. Take everything he says with a grain of salt and research and learn for yourself.
Me neither, Scotty is a bit biased I'm thinking 🤔
Amen
Amen
Yeah? 2012 sonic with less than 80k miles. Traction control system shot. GM trash.
I got a Chevy, it's got 120,000 miles on it and never had any traction control problems
Just crossed 130,000 miles express 3500 van, no traction problem yet.
My Chevy impala 2014 started having problems with the traction control🤦♂️
Every GM I’ve owed has this issue
Everything works fine for me and the light just goes on and off. It's probably something minor cause the vehicle was recently serviced
Scotty is a Toyota fan. When a mechanic of more than 50 years tells you a a certain car band is the best, believe it. He has seen it all. I had a 2006 Corolla with over 200,000 miles with no problems, until it was totaled in an accident. I now own a 2016 Corolla with over 50,000 miles and not a single problem. Toyota is a really good brand.
2 years old with 50k miles. Wtf?
Erik S I live in Texas and do a lot of highway miles.
ELPJM09 i got a 2014 corolla with almost 100k. I do a lot of highway too and drove coast to coast 2x
Door lock actuators bout the only common failure on them yotas.
ELPJM09 I just sold a 1995 Chevy k2500 extended cab long bed with just over 320,xxx miles and still ran like a champ. If you take care of your possessions they will take care of you, simple as that.
I have a 2004 chevy impala that is now 14 years old, never had a problem with the traction control, best car that I ever owned...
I’ve had multiple gm cars over the years with this feature and it’s never failed. All of them were over 12 years old when I sold them. My 98 corvette has it and it works as designed
It is all true what you are saying, however you did not mention one thing: what Traction Control actually does and what is it for.
So I will do it - TC helps to keep the car on the road! And it prevents you from losing control!!! So eventually it will save your car from total destruction (and it will be much more than 800$) or even your (and your family) lives
DO it does not. Modern traction control I think is mandated now just like airbags but it used to be optional. A mechanical traction control would be great like posi-traction, torsen limited slip, Detroit Locker etc....THe problem is that htose cost more money. Even more modern systems using viscous coupling and magnetic clutches are great. That is not what is being used though. All they are doing in most low-end systems is retarding the throttle and applying the brake to whichever wheel is spinning. THey are hopping this will help but often in the hands of a skilled driver it actual hurts and the driver is fighting the car more than the weather conditions. Mom's Saturn(GM) traction control kept getting us stuck in Michigans snow. As soon as we figured out how to turn it off we where fine. Turn it on and you where stuck again. Sometimes you need momentum to keep from getting stuck in snow and mud but these systems that are fairly dumb can not deal with that. A wheel trained human is always better than cheap imperfect code and lame attempts at cheap fake traction control.Just like a skilled well trained driver and I do not mean a race care driver or professional driver can easily stop shorter than ABS even under less than ideal conditions with threshold breaking. Humans have judgment that can account for variety but computer's just follow one size fits all programing.
Scotty please. That same Teves MK60 traction control system is used by loads of car manufacturers. GM, BMW, Ford, Audi, Mazda, Peugeot, Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat, Volvo, Toyota...
And you do not have to replace the whole assembly, just the hydraulic unit which costs under $400 on ebay.
+sekopiski I go by dealer list prices when they are the only ones in town who sell the parts. And I rather doubt this is the same system used in toyotas, cause I NEVER have seen a toyota system break down yet, and I work on tons of toyotas.
+Scotty Kilmer It is the same unit used in the Yaris
+sekopiski Maybe on some other Toyotas too, but the Yaris i know for a fact because i have replaced a hydraulic unit on one little over a year ago.
+Anchor Baby I wish they paid me, sadly I have to buy my own toyotas. I gladly support good companies, but they get free support from me for making good products most of the time.
+sekopiski interesting that toyota used that unit on their low end vehicle while GM used it on higher end ones. That says a LOT
I finally gave up on spending money to fix it. I just drive it with the light on.
Same
What have you done ? I have a 11 lucerne and it goes on and off. The car has 65k km on it. I'm thinking it's either something to do with breakfluid needing a flushout or sensors near the tires. Would you recommend i do anything specific or just let it be?
I've had the ABS traction control light on for 3.5 years on my 2004 Buick Regal, which I've owned for 3.5 years, and don't care to fix and never will.
The modulators were made by Bosch and Denso not by GM and its the same assembly that controls the abs system. Similiar problem occurred with 07 toyota camrys that many people had to replace their abs units.
What happens if you don’t fix the traction control system?
It runs like a normal car.
@@johnvenegas8380 There wont be any problems in the car engine or suspension if the Traction Control isnt fixed ? My 2008 Chevy Malibu just turned that light on last week , the mechanic said it was due to my Rims on the car since its not the Original OEM TIRES/RIMS
I've owned several GM vehicles with traction control. Never had a failure in a combined 500K miles.
Well when you have 50 cars that's pretty easy.
+John Wilkerson When you say several, Im implying you mean more than two, so splitting 500K miles by at least 3 cars isn't that impressive
+RealDarkFilm just what I was about to say 😂 Damn gm must be really stepping up their game. A whole 50k miles per vehicle wow
I love all the negative comments to your reply. These idiots don't understand you don't always drive a car until it dies. You get bored, or you upgrade. When I sold my Buick roadmaster it had 307,000km on it... The new owner said it needed nothing for the safety / e-test. It's a great car I just decided to get a newer vehicle. I'm on my 9th GM vehicle, I've always taken care of them and never sold any of them broken. If you're smart and buy a vehicle in good shape and take care of it you won't have problems. When idiots don't take care of their vehicle and it breaks down, they blame the vehicle... Even though it was from their neglect, hence calling them idiots.
Joe Cruze I completely agree. If you take care of any vehicle most likely it's going to last.
the problem is that traction control is mandatory now in the U.S.
llSubSpacell if you are in a state that doesn't do inspections that isn't true
Thank god I drive a 2010 honda fit sport without traction control
..traction control is a crock of sh@t...just another move toward self-driving and further eroding driving skills of the average driver....they need to teach people to really drive to get their license...manual transmission, defensive driving, techniques for driving in rain/snow, spin/skid recovery, etc., etc....NOT just sticking it in "Drive" and letting electronics take over the driving process....
I own a 2007 Chevy Silverado Z71. Comes with traction control. It has 166,000 miles +. I have kept up with it and haven't had any issues with it. Just changed the struts and shocks, change the brake fluid when it's start to look to dirty, but alternator is working great. Change the belts and hose just maintenance. But speaker system isn't working properly, but the stereo is. 4x4 and transmission work great. I keep up with it. I use Amsoil products on my truck since I bought it new.
I've fixed a few GMs with TC issues by grounding the module and checking grounds on the transmission.
my Ford traction control have problems too lol.
that's true also, but then again, toyota trac systems rarely have failures, i've seen 20 year old ones still working
Scotty Kilmer mine was a 2012 mustang . after 1 year back in 2013 I showed off by hitting the gas then i lost traction. since then my traction control says I should get it check. never done it though who cares about traction control
+billytwowillies I see plenty of toyotas broken down in the UK, hell - they're not even that popular. Jeeps are ones i almost never see broken down.
Remember the old tc slogan? The car in front is a Toyota. It's because it's driving so
slow (Aygo = I go slow) or because the drivers died of old age, or broken down lol
ill stick with my in-line 6 cherokee its a tank 4x4 funness its cool for a 99 even though i wanted an older one still do! it has more sensor issues than anything time to fix it up got any jeep videos?
I had a '97, and a '98. I'd buy a new one today if I could. Both were the best ever . Wife wrecked one, and i put 330 K miles on the other. Got a winger, piece of shit. Only kept it less than a year. Got an older Grand Cherokee, with V8, and though a gas hog, it's much better off road and everywhere else than the Wrangler. I'm gonna keep it till the thing rusts down, I only wish I could have a 5 speed stick put in it.
Dealer wants to charge me $700 for a Mopar rack and pinion on my 2000 Dakota RT and I can buy one from AutoZone for $150 lol.
Yeah but that autozone one is gonna fail in 15k. Better off with a good rebuild
I doubt it they should be just as good.
hugeslacker I'd be interested in any proof you may have....
+Eslamizar I've installed aftermarket racks and they failed. Go onto a random car forum and ask the users who has installed aftermarket racks and ask how long they lasted. You go aftermarket if you plan on selling it or trading it in, not for longevity. The oem rack will last 15, 20 years.. You really think something made in China is going to last as long? If they did, don't you think the car company would cut costs and use those in the first place?
hugeslacker I thought they take the old ones and rebuild them.... that's why they take the old one back as a core.
Oh god prepare for the Ford Fans, Dodge doesn't care 24/7 like Ford.
+knightrider KR shoulda bought a ford...
:P
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+knightrider KR Well Chrysler fans aren't in a position to speak on other makes in terms of problems and reliability issues.
+banstaman because 707 hp :D
+TheDroidekas cries in every corner :D
I have a 2004 gmc yukon xl 1500 slt awd with 189k miles, no problems other than cat converters but no emissions test in Kentucky. Runs and drives strong, no issues thus far with traction control system.
+Jordan S. you're the lucky one, tons have serious problems. Must have been a wednesday vehicle build.
Love your videos and channel. I don't know much about working on cars, but thanks to your videos I'm learning more. Had I seen this video before I bought my vehicle, I would've chose differently. Thanks for the great videos and advice.
You're so right! This happens with every damn chevy/GM car!!
I have a 2018 chevy sonic and this isn't my first time
Boy, I'm sure the gov't will make sure its not an option sometime
It is not optional. Electronic Stability control is mandatory in the US. This was a 2008 van. I think he meant when buying a used car.
StoneysWorkshop buy honda!
Preston miller 83k kilometres on my '09 Civic and still runs strong, team rising sun! 🇯🇵🇯🇵
I plan to keep my 2004 Mazda 3 with manual transmission for a long time.
Wonder how my 2015 Tacoma has a factory installed button that lets me completely turn off all traction control systems since it's so mandated then...
Chevy’s have the best traction control in the industry- it works so well you won’t even make it out of your driveway!
So Scotty, it seems like all modern cars have lots of electronics that can go bad at any time. So, what car make do you recommend that doesn't have a lot of electronics and tend to be good mechanically? Any good modern car?? Even new Toyotas have many electronics, right?
buy a car from the 90's.
profit
+jim miles Thats even a worse idea. Thats when electronic parts started getting big and started to fail. Might as weel get a new car thet has easy to remove electronic parts.
+ReformedThe yea, they all have them, but the toyotas have ones that break down the least and last the longest still.
ReformedThe in my experience, they've all been solid. I've owned 4 90's European cars and they've been great. Original electronic equipment.
I can absolutely prove everything he says. I've had THREE Chevys, two of them being Monte Carlos and all of them have had problems with the traction systems.
yes, I'm not making this stuff up, just trying to help people stop wasting their money. I used to get mad at manufacturers for the crap they made BEFORE I made youtube videos, now I can get even by spilling the beans on them. So There.
I have a 90s Silverado with 228,000 miles and the tc hasn't gone bad yet
If it goes back to a fail safe why bother fixing it.
+JDM Dragon In some countries you get a fail on the MOT/periodic inspection.
+Svein Erik Edsberg Makes sense I mean, no ABS or Traction control? Might as well become an organ donor if you try driving without those. Remember how all our parents died when the roads became even slightly damp?
+s0nnyburnett My car isn't equipped with ABS or traction control and I'm not dead. Yet.
+s0nnyburnett Dude seriously? It's called learning to drive. No matter how hard technology tries it can't overcome lack of skill or stupidity. As the old saying goes "the arrow can't make the Indian"
Dude. I think he meant it sarcastically. :)
damn that's a nice scan tool!
sadly. traction control is pretty much standard across the board for all automakers
actually from like 2006 Silverado and GMC cars and on
+zaco21 yes and no. it also dumbs down drivers.
+zaco21 stability control and traction really helps you out in rainy day
in a rear wheel drive car or truck
+animal16365 ABS is NOT mandated on cars in the U.S. so you should be able to get a sticker.
Yeah i'm still buying a GM product, I don't even need to use traction control. I'll just drive it like a normal car. There's just something good about GMs, I guess it's because they're the heartbeat of America. People say "No don't buy a GM don't buy one!" but I ignore them because it's my car and I can buy whatever car I want because it's a free country and I don't have to listen to people telling me what car I can and can't buy.
We had a 2003 Pontiac Sunfire with traction control. Amazingly, that car never broke or threw a code. Build quality inside and out was beyond abysmal, but mechanically it was as reliable as an anvil.
Dont buy a mercedes... sold my mercedes for the reason in that video....dont buy a chevy..... if my tahoe breaks down im going to be mad at you scotty!
abialo2010 Scotty always sais buy a Toyota. 100 times at least. Also check out ratchets and wrenches. BTW, you never save money trading cars.
abialo2010 gotta buy japanese
Sorry to disappoint but Mercedes as all the others source parts everywhere. But one thing I can say in first hand. Mercedes quality control on parts is something you see only in...Japanese parts!!
Might sound awkward to most, but since I was in the power train division of a major manufacturer I witness that in first hand.
Unfortunately for us the end user, sometimes issues happen at manufacturer level that is literally or almost untraceable. Although 5/10 years down the road the problems arise. And there's not much we can do about it. Cheers.
abialo2010 buy honda
Our Tahoe made it well past 250K and we sold it around then and it’s still going strong. Other than a crappy ABS module we replaced and a fuel pump the car was problem free the 16 years we had it. We have another Tahoe a year newer that never had ABS problems. GM does make reliable cars that being. My Roadmaster is pushing 270K and still runs like a champ!
Glad I still have my '69 El Camino
p.s. You can be my granddad any time
Cristobal Torres now that’s a classic
You want a cookie
Post 1990, I love my Toyota/Lexus products, but I have a '78 El Camino that I have only had to change oil and occasionally tune-up for the last 20 years. It always starts up. I know its not a fair comparison, but I don't see any '78 Toyotas around, not to mention '69. They're all rusted out, and generally not worth preserving, though a perverse side of me would love to see a '78 Celica again---even a boring Corona for grins (Camry granddad). I still see plenty of old Chevys around (Corvettes, Camaros, Caprices). Certain Chevys still engender more passion than most Toyos. Perhaps, this is changing though, particularly with recent Toyo trucks and the rare but beloved Supra and first gen SCs. Albert Vidal, I love cookies, what kind?
Bill you have it right ! Old cars rock , today you gotta spend over 50k for a decent machine and still things might go wrong with it very quickly. I have 2 great old cars. An 80 pinto rallye with a 302 & an original 83 rabbit gti. Both great cars that dont give me any problems ever. 👍
Is it just me or does GM constantly use systems that are either remarkably archaic or advisably advanced - think about it, this traction control system was probably fit to vehicles still running pushrods, that's my point in one vehicle
Love ur channel Scotty but personally owned over 20 gm's between my business and personal use and only replaced abs sensors and wires never had problem with whole module, most are cargo vans 200k + miles on them great vehicles.
Any vehicle can have problems nothing is perfect.. 2011 Silverado with stabiltrak and it’s saved my life and never had an issue
For a year I've seen this man and I didn't even know I haven't subscribed to him smh...
Oh shit I haven't either.
I hate newer GM vehicles. My parents have a Traverse and two work trucks (08 and 14) and they have constant problems.
I have a 99 Tahoe still going great. Take better care of your GMs and they will last a long time.
I put 193,000 miles on my brand new 2000 Grand Am in less than 6 years. Never once did I have a problem with that unit. In fact, the only problem I ever had was intake manifold gaskets.
Would the traction control system last longer
If you turned it off when it is dry outside and you don't need traction control?????
I have had Holdens with traction control and I have never had any problems and have done more than 300,000 Kay’s in all of them and they gave me any problems because they use a Bosch system same as many manufacturers
2012 Chevy Malibu here, I always turn traction control off when I drive. And no issues using it when turned on.
When i baught my car 2 tires and 2 rotors were bad cause of the past owner always turning it off. My car has it turned on all the time so i just leave it. However i live in Canada and the weather is usually bad and the roads are usually wet or frozen.
I Love your Videos AND my 1996 Toyota 4Runner that you Fixed for me is still Running PERFECTLY !!! ..you ARE the BEST Scotty !!! ..and talking to you that day when I picked up my truck from you was super fun and interesting for me. Thanks for being Super Cool & Super Smart !!!
GM = General Mess
GM= General Mayhem
Ford = Found On Road Dead
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FYI This isn't a GM specific issue. Volkswagen/Audi use an extremely similar system for traction control, and I'd bet many other manufacturers do as well. When this ABS module fails on an '05 Passat 4motion for example, the repair costs can be upwards of $2,000 through the dealer. However there are people that can rebuild these for a fraction of the price, and WILL NOT need reprogrammed.
And furthermore, traction control is just a nice option on GM vehicles, but if you buy an Audi Quattro, that's one of the main reasons you buy the car. When it fails, you're basically left with a clunky old timey 4x4 system.
I found the brake modulator for less than $500 for the vehicle in the video. On the other hand, the same component for a 2008 Mustang (part# 7R3Z2C215C) was over $700. Don't buy a Ford... And Scotty, you did not diagnose the issue to determine which part was faulty, you just jumped at the opportunity to throw the most expensive part at the problem without verifying it was indeed bad. The auto parts stores love you man.
One more reason to buy, fix up and drive OLDER cars!
"Welcome to the 21st Century! We are so screwed..."
+adventureoflinkmk2 That's right. Squash 'em. Turn 'em into beer cans!
***** no..they don't.
that's what I do ! I drive a 99 Chevy blazer 4.3, 4x4 and it runs as good as a new one !
Cars from 2000-2011 have fewer problems and are a lot easier and cheaper to fix.
Yeah because Ford ABS is so much more reliable...
Scotty,
I have found great savings by purchasing GENUINE GM parts from Dealers on line that will discount up t0 50%!!! These are NOT after market parts, bur since they are selling parts out of their market area you can get original OEM for way less, and no tax! I know that won't help you if you need parts the same day, however if you can schedule a repair job that requires only OEM parts, this is a very viable way to do it. I have saved BIG BUCKS on brake parts, shocks, interior parts, W/W motors, mirrors, etc.
PS: This is NOT an exclusive thing for GM. I have helped friends do the same thing for Toyota and Lincoln as well.
If you mean companies like GM Parts Direct and other dealerships let me share with you what they are doing. GM parts ship from GENERAL MOTORS Service Parts North American Operations warehouse system. When you order parts as a Dealership the price of shipping is including in the price of the parts General Motors sells them there is no additional tax and shipping charge. The dealership does not have to ship the part to themselves they can put an alternative shipping address on the order. Because they can not increase the price to you over their cost with this system and still get the shipping free they sell to you at their cost for the part but add fictitious shipping charges to make up the difference. They have a 3 tier price guide. You have the Dealers cost than you have the Matric Price/Jobber price which s usually about 30% higher thant heir cost then you have full recommended retail which is 2X the dealers cost. Since only parts guys at the dealership and people working for General Motor Serice Parts know this people have no clue.
What is this website you speak of??
www.gmpartsdirect.co/
2007 Chevy Equinox was getting intermittent tc and stabilitrak disabled. Turned out to be a sticking EGR. Replaced it, no issues since. On this model, GM disables tc and Stabilitrak when an issue is detected in the emissions system.
+William Miller Isn't GM software Great? Some of them won't start the car if the radio has a problem. What Geniuses.
Scott, I just replace my 2003 Buick Lasaber. Abs/traction control assemble for $1300! The dealer wanted $2100! They are a bunch of thieves! Another option is to get a rebuilt one. (Instead of new). Thank you for your videos. The are awesome!
With the Deaths caused by poor drivers without TS, this video adds to the stupid's. ZERO of my GM cars have ever had a TS system go out. Of the vehicles at the house now, 6 are over 130k miles, with 1 2001 Firebird at 240k. Only thing fixed on that car is the convertible top.
At only 45k miles it sounds like GM is going back to their programmed/designed failure they had in the early 80s.
going back? they never left, their garbage is as unreliable as ever
Agreed....
Don't all new Chevys come with traction control
yep, another reason not to buy them. GM quality control isn't so hot these days All Over.
That's why I only buy pre 1995 Chevys ;). Old TBI engines before they swapped to Vortecs heheh
+the32712 my 2008 Chevy Silverado dosnt have traction control its does great burnouts
Baja warrior Ah, I didn't mean that you couldn't do burnouts in post-95 Chevys. I just meant that the quality control was better and the engines were easier to work on.
+the32712 lot more space in my opinion to reach in there and not as many computers
Driving a 2011 impala, 3.5 😂with ABS brakes and traction control. In Canada, Northern Ontario. I’ve redone brakes, power steering hoses,(did complete flush). It’s hitting 175000 km. ABS saved me a few times, on light snow covered black ice. As for the TC, I use it in adverse road condition, 6 plus inches of snow, slush, gravel roads., etc. never had an issue with either features. Replaced front wheel bearings and hubs, no axle leak. All in all, it’s been a good car for me. But, never will I go to a GM Dealer again.
This is why I drive older vehicles. Too much stuff to go wrong on newer ones. Guess it was a problem with people always running off the road before traction control came out...My 93 explorer has seen better days but its reliable and easy to work on when it does break
Been working as a tech for GM for 10 years.
I've seen 3 of these...
Relax Scotty
Ive owned a tahoe and silverado and they both have done it
I'm getting ready to buy a new car I noticed Chevy been having a lot of power steering problems should I just avoid Chevy all together
+Megan Torres I would. Now I learned to drive on a chevy, but that was in the sixties. Sadly, they've gone downhill since then
Thank you
Dont get a new car. New cars have all sorts of problems. Get a lightly used car
Chevy makes good cars. Just don't get an Aveo.
I'm looking for Ford mustang drop top 2001-04 series
Who needs traction control?
I heard a guy say he hated it because he couldn't do burnouts.
Traction control sucks. It's handicap for bad drivers. And it's a PITA in the winter.
my ranger don't have traction control, it won't even spin it's tires if i floor it. so theres no need for traction control. traction control is good when you have something that has very fast acceleration
***** My old 7.3 will sure burn out, especially if you drop the clutch in 3rd gear.
Criticize me if you want, but when you have 400plus hp on the street, youll thank a decent tc when it prevents you from ending up in a "supercar idiots" compilation..
I have an express van with that. It actually causes me to get stuck in the snow because if I need to goose it, it cuts the throttle and goes dead. They also seem to drive like they are dead and many folks are saying to get a good tune. I drove a camaro ss, felt like a turd at all rpms unless you smashed it to the floor.
My traction control on my 2000 grand am works fine 18 years old and running strong.
TC on my 97 G/P GTP works fine.
More JUNK FROM GENERAL MOTORS. Like you said, don't buy a GM PRODUCT.
GM should be sued. I miss my cressida every day.
My GF has a 2005 Chevy Malibu Maxx. Her cars traction control button is broken and the traction control is stuck on. When she tries to take off quickly the vehicle stutters really bad for a few seconds and goes right back to normal. Recently it has also started to stutter during braking. My first thought is that this problem is connected to the Traction Control.
I own a 2003 GMC Yukon Denali and it has nothing but problems. The water pump went bad, so did the power steering. I have an oil leak at the rear main seal. The speedometer cluster has been replaced twice and etc. Not sure if I would ever buy another GM vehicle again.
I'm done with Chevrolet and Chrysler they can go straight to hell and disappear I'm switching to a Japanese car
juan garcia Japanese are the most reliable especially Toyota. Although I would take a Dodge (Mopar) product over a Chevy or Ford product any day. Ill take anything over a Ford, theyre pieces of shit. But Dodge is the best of the domestics.
mopar speed, chevy durability , ford easy to fix.
juan garcia I’ve had bad luck with my Nissan Frontier , stay away from Nissan buy Toyota
Nicecardude100 you have mopar and chevy mixed lol. Most race car drivers use chevy engines because theyre fast and dodge deff can make a vehicle thatll last
Sinisa Golub are you talking about a demon? The car that is barely stock?
Good ol' GM. Building junk for decades.
I just saw a 1973 Impala today. I wonder if we'll see any Prius in roughly in 2062.
manoman0 hell no we won’t.
Yah ford nation
GM Ford and Dodge has so many problems, its ridiculous. I rather use Toyota.
Hey Scotty, I have a 2004 Chevrolet SSR, then had 100,000 miles. 10 years ago. The ABS & Traction control I first had trouble codes for everything. Engine, Exhaust failure, Brakes, Transmission etc. I asked on the SSR fanatics & took to Chevrolet Dealer. No help from either because? Not one mechanic had seen or worked on the SSR in Toledo Area. Most SSRs from 2004 to 2006 around 24,178 were built. Nobody had a problem because you have to drive a car for parts to wear out. Confused why Trailblazer did not have issues? I had several helpful mechanics resolve the problem. Well I tried the sensors on wheels. Found several had failed. So I replaced all disc brake pads, Rotors & calipers that were worn need replacement. I took my SSR to a car show & found a local expert looking at my SSR. He told me how to fix ABS, Traction Control, Heater motor, Over heating of engine etc. He told me that some engineer designed the Trailblazer Chassis with the ABS Traction control right next to the Catalytic converter. The heat soak in traffic & after parked. OR? The engine in 04 is creating lots more power than catalytic converter was made for. The heat would conduction & radiation to the ABS Traction control. The failure is inside the module. The solder on circuit board melts. Wires can too. I found a replacement on ebay. Lots of work under truck using torx socket to remove the module. It was burned. I also found that the ground was bad for the ABS Traction control. So I ran another ground. That may be a fix on your repair of this problem you said was no possible? Clean the dirty engine compartment & repair or replace the ground for the unit. I enjoy your tips & repairs with your commentary very informative. Thanks
My 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe with 90000 miles has StabiliTrac (TC and ESC system) and have never had an issue out of it.
dont buy a chevy ..... PERIOD !
Should be titled "Why not to buy Chevys"
Leo Wells correction! New Chevys. The old ones are better
Leo Wells So you are saying a our old Tahoe with 250K and still going strong is junk? The ABS module was the only thing besides a fuel pump that needed replacing the 17 years of having the car. I’d like to know why you think they are crap? Sure the Traction control module on their minivans sucked.
Harrison S Same, first gen Tahoe, 278,500 miles, runs like a top.
Gm products are good they have problems just like everyone else just her Ford had over a million recalls for their vehicles down shifting into first gear while driving in higher gears that is a major problem
Rather have a Chevy then a Ford
maybe GM will have a recall for this
watch out crowds.
nope
Cole Nevin hilarious and original
fox bodys and mustangs thanks buddy. You couldn't think of anything else?
Perhaps. At least GM is willing to make things right these days. Ford on the other hand, has a long history of covering up huge safety and design defects. They have to be investigated by the federal government before they try to make it look like they care. The recent F150 Ecoboost sudden brake failure and the regional door latch recall that should have been a nationwide recall are good examples of that. You could also point out the cruise control fire defect that affected millions of Ford owners (burned down many family homes) stretching over nearly a decade that Ford drug their feet the entire time on (recalling vehicles a decade later lol). Oh and the park-to-reverse defect that management/lawyers wrote about in internal memos that went on for over a decade and killed and injured thousands. The firewall mounted ignition module on late 80's vehicles that management were warned by engineers would fail due to heat exposure (but would cost pennies per car to fix) went ignored despite the danger of a sudden engine stall. Then there's the Ford Explorer and it's substandard suspension, the Ford Windstar suspension failures, the Ford Escape rear suspension failure, the F150 throttle position sensors that fail at low mileage (cheap plastic parts, poorly designed), ongoing cam phaser/timing chain wear and failure issues (sub-100k miles, 60-80k miles is typically failure point, hey just out of warranty and a few grand to fix!), 5.4 oil pressure loss that motivated Ford to revise the minimum oil pressure spec instead of recalling/repairing, the 5.0 coyote oil pumps that grenade even on stock engines, the 5.0 coyote rear cylinder overheat issue, the F150 fuel pump driver module mounted on the bottom of the frame where it collects salt and corrodes until failure causing a dangerous stall (why haven't they moved it to a spot where it won't corrode all these years later), the cheap IWE front end that almost seems like they intentionally designed to fail either due to vacuum issues or the plastic bits in the hub failing, the 8.8 rear carrier bearing failures at low mileage (those pinned axle tubes are a joke), the fuel evap failures that cause fuel to get sucked into the intake and potentially hydrolock the engine (cheaply designed plastic part, normal Ford quality).
You can repair those abs modules, just take it apart and replace the carbon brushes. It’s pretty simple, no easy but fixable. That’s why you see repaired modules on eBay if you send the core back
I work for FedEx in Colorado and we use gm vans. I have never driven one past 100,000 miles without the tc broken and when it is in the snow it tries to pull you off the road.
chevys should just go straight to the junk yard
dont buy a chevy
GM cars are crap, point proven XD
Thanks Scotty. This video was enlightening. I've got a 2009 Saturn Vue with the same exact problem. I'm just living with the warning light on. Don't need traction control in So. Cal. anyway.
I have a 2013 Impala. The car has been great. Been doing maintenance and taking care of it. Not the finest, or best, but definitely a solid car. There are much worse cars that's for sure. The only thing that has given me problems so far was the Traction Control, Stabilitrak and ABS... They all wen't bad at the same time. The fix? A snapped $19 wire that goes from the wheel hub to the car's computer.
If you HAVE to buy American, buy Ford
+EvilJ069 Amen to that
+EvilJ069
Between GM and Ford, (here in Brazil) the majority would agree with you.
Problem is Ford is usually a bit more expensive than GM (Chevrolet).
But so well worth it.
ristau Honda's generally cost more than KIA's... For a reason
So many little parts..
Do yourself a favor and just avoid GM all together lol.
The older GM's aren't that bad. I'll take your word on the newer ones. I have a 1996 GMC Suburban with a bit more than 300k miles on it and it starts every time no matter how cold it is. In fact, the colder it is the easier it starts.
Ford makes good vehicles just like GMC, Chevrolet, Chrysler and all the rest. Every one of them has a lemon roll off the lines occasionally.
Simone G Fords are all Lemons.
Not true at all, rokkero.
Tommy Truth very true indeed actually. All Fords are fucking horrible vehicles. I wouldnt own another one if they gave it to me for free and paid me to take it on top, I still wouldnt take it.
In 25 years of driving quattros never had a traction control or awd system problem. I usually keep at least 2 of them plus some other cars.
The chevy fleet vans i use have traction control issues all the time, and it sucks in the winter. It'll bog the engine so bad the motor will sometimes stall.
I have a cts and it modulates the engine rather than using the brakes. Kind of sucks when you get stuck though. These brake systems can act like a locking differential to get you out of a slippery situation.