iPhone 14 Pro for photographers - Shooting RAW vs JPGs vs Sony A7IV

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  • @aditya.chandel
    @aditya.chandel ปีที่แล้ว +64

    "iPhone is equally better than a pro camera". That's all true until your wedding photographer comes in with a bunch of iPhones at your wedding. 🤣

    • @tuetruong5618
      @tuetruong5618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😄😄😄🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you get 20$ for your job lol

    • @chwhjjc8820
      @chwhjjc8820 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @oldbonesuk1139
    @oldbonesuk1139 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The BEST, by a VERY long way, in-depth brilliantly done, and balanced review I have seen so far. It's so much better watching another photographer's take and feedback on this and any other camera phone. Someone who took the time to set and execute a great little shoot to truly test the product properly. Let's face it for any of us that only really care about just how good the camera is, as most modern phones are capable of doing everything else we need, having a proper shoot and comparison done compared to the gear we normally use, your Sony, my Canon, it doesn't matter, it just lets us truly evaluate the product at a level we can't help but want to compare it to, massive well done and thanks 07

  • @espogian
    @espogian ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful review. Very focused on the main points of the story. I definitely agree with everything you say

  • @romanmenyhart
    @romanmenyhart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderfully refreshing to have somebody review the latest. iPhone camera capabilities in photographers language. Thanks a lot.

  • @GrainAndPixels
    @GrainAndPixels ปีที่แล้ว +28

    With those really dark images I've found if you switch the color profile in Lightroom to Apple ProRAW it seems to make it closer to the correct exposure. On some images the default "Apple Embedded Color Profile" seems fine.

  • @SoGoMTB
    @SoGoMTB ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks bro for the input. for a first time user of iPhone, i just loving it. SUBSCRIBED!

  • @doniyorfarkhadjanov
    @doniyorfarkhadjanov ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice view in Warsaw! Good luck man

  • @user-jp9js9th8o
    @user-jp9js9th8o 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very informative comparison - thanks a lot

  • @ptwoods
    @ptwoods ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this useful video. What is the quality of photos at 2x versus 1x both in jpg ?

  • @marcusoutdoors4999
    @marcusoutdoors4999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, there is a 12meg Pro Raw on the iPhone 14 as well

  • @Elzan01
    @Elzan01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video, amazing work, thumbs up.

  • @Kinadnuf
    @Kinadnuf ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliantly informative, thank you :) 🇬🇧

  • @Rudel23
    @Rudel23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video...Finally someone who explained why the proRaw photos look so different when opened on iPhone or Ipad or elsewhere...I'm making some attempt in Raw on my iPhone 14pro, but sincerely, the difference with HEIC-HEIF format is not so great, but it is huge the difference of required space: from about 2-3 Mp of a nice HEIC pic, to more that 70 Mp for a 48 Mp proRaw file, is it worth?

  • @petermilian4455
    @petermilian4455 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were all of the portrait length shots that showed no advantage in ProRAW shot at 2x / ~50mm? If so does ProRAW offer similar benefits at 3x / 77mm to those present at 1x / 24mm?

  • @cdmurray23
    @cdmurray23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in good light for stationary objects, phones in general are great options....drop the light and have you subjects move ....then compare. Dedicated cameras aren't going anywhere, but at the same time you can certainly take high quality shots with a phone (not just an iphone).

    • @life_in_gen
      @life_in_gen ปีที่แล้ว

      This. Although the video is thorough. I really like to see the phone being used for sports, long exposure shots, creative portraits multiple depths, macro, like really take the time.

  • @swiftdetecting
    @swiftdetecting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it the pro your using and not the max ? also what GB did you go for?

  • @Revan89
    @Revan89 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    iPhone photography has one big problem. It kills my yearly fantasy of a Personal Everyday Camera to document my life. Many hours of research into the Ricoh GR, Fuji X100 or Leica Q go to waste thanks to the iPhone. None of those camera can touch the convenience of your phone. So next time I get hyped about a new personal camera, I will read this comment to remind me of my idiocy.

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100%. Still haha, there's space for personal camera for us. I hope :)

    • @EdoardoSantangelo
      @EdoardoSantangelo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s you speaking on my behalf 😂.
      I end up doing exactly the same. I’ve bought a Ricoh GRIII and sold it cause I was always ending up using the iPhone instead.

    • @bastian.michel
      @bastian.michel ปีที่แล้ว

      I would agree only partly. There are times when I really want to shoot a nice portrait. The I grap my dslm. It still makes, at least for me, a huge difference.

  • @duckhorn
    @duckhorn ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know what 48mp raw to jpeg post processed and 12mp shot jpeg result different

  • @lucyboldo
    @lucyboldo ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a difference in using jpeg vs heic files?

  • @smooth111012
    @smooth111012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I discovered that with a raw file , if you edit and just make the file smaller, hardly at all then Dave then open in Snapseed. It’s ok
    Not dark at all

  • @jimforbes9119
    @jimforbes9119 ปีที่แล้ว

    My experience is that the ProRaw 48 MP produces a 12 MP image when any zoom setting other than 1x is used.

  • @N.Sem.
    @N.Sem. ปีที่แล้ว

    great job, it was interesting to hear your opinion

  • @jonathanleong2537
    @jonathanleong2537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why after edit is still 48mp but the file some shrink alot ?

  • @alekpilipovic4076
    @alekpilipovic4076 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For static images you can use even longer….the images are even better then many dslrs and I am using 13pmax cant imagine 14.combine it with focos for boche and ina 3minutes you have unbelievable stuff

    • @humanfirst11
      @humanfirst11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which DSLR have you specifically used which you found inferior to the iPhone camera?

  • @bernios3446
    @bernios3446 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doesn't your Lightroom automatically apply the Apple Raw profile? I cannot remember the files looking so dark in LR. My version is "LR classic".

  • @srjeetraam1364
    @srjeetraam1364 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best photography camera for faimy. Amazing photos

  • @amitavraja3385
    @amitavraja3385 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ordered Pro Max and looking forward to shooting some snaps in RAW format. However, seen how complex the procedure is. Can't I just edit the photo on the phone or even without editing, can I see the difference on the phone between a normal and RAW photo or is it too small to see it, even if you zoom in?

  • @edouardkilanowski699
    @edouardkilanowski699 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you shoot raw, do you also have a jpeg?

  • @life_in_gen
    @life_in_gen ปีที่แล้ว

    So do you think, the iphone can be used professionally in a wedding shoot?

  • @timog7358
    @timog7358 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @aperez4198
    @aperez4198 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video. I have a question. If I intend to print a photo in 8x10 or 11/14, and I want it to be as sharp as possible. Will shooting in raw give me a considerable advantage over shooting in other modes in Iphone?

    • @09norcohavoc
      @09norcohavoc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, you need the largest image possible for blowing things up

  • @itboy6934
    @itboy6934 ปีที่แล้ว

    I compared my iphone 14 pro max raw images with my Nikon D810 35mm 1.4.
    Iphone was impressive but only until you zoomed in. My d810 was a way better sharper and crisp with amazing adobe rgb color

  • @raddioacctivegfx
    @raddioacctivegfx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I send my RAW Photos per WETrasfer to download it to my Pc they're just regular 5Mb JEPGS and in my IPhone 14 Pro it says 50MB RAW! How do I send the RAW Images? Are they stored some where else?

  • @aditya.chandel
    @aditya.chandel ปีที่แล้ว +5

    IMO dedicated cameras shine when using them with wide aperture lenses like 1.4 or 1.2 for portraits or low light photography, or telephoto lenses for portraits (70-200) or wildlife (100-400 or 150-600). Phone cameras can't match dedicated cameras in these regard.

    • @whitecrowuk575
      @whitecrowuk575 ปีที่แล้ว

      Low light video recording, not photo - as iPhone now can do longer exposures which can look better and have lens nearly as wide (1.7)

    • @SuttonBen
      @SuttonBen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whitecrowuk575 night modes are definitely a big plus for phones. However, the lens aperture shouldn't be taken as a good measure of lowlight capability. Smaller sensors will take in less overall light and so require more gain to achieve the same exposure. That means more noise in the image.

    • @whitecrowuk575
      @whitecrowuk575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuttonBen in standard photography yes, (or video recording) but with computational it’s being processed to a degree that’s actually not bad looking and usable - better than majority of cheaper cropped frame cameras.

  • @joseluisrodriguezritte2734
    @joseluisrodriguezritte2734 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Lightroom, look for the “apple proraw" profile. Your image will look way better than the average Lightroom interpretation of that apple raw file…

  • @ozzyakiro4734
    @ozzyakiro4734 ปีที่แล้ว

    In well lit environments and with stationary subjects, any phone camera will do wonderfully (Basic portraits and family scenes). Their technology has advanced quite well and it's a very powerful system for something so small.
    In large landscapes, macro, creative portraits, long exposure, sporting shoots, double exposures, the DSLR and Mirrorless will reign supreme and won't be going anywhere any time soon. They're a creative tool! :)
    Phone's may be a jack of all trades, but they're certainly not the masters of one, unlike dedicated cameras. :)

  • @humanfirst11
    @humanfirst11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How long does it take to copy to your laptop or Mac?

    • @webfrasse
      @webfrasse ปีที่แล้ว

      If you use Photos iCloud Library it happens while you take your photos and when you come home the Photos are on your mac (and in the cloud). I pay $10 / month for 2TB and share the storage space with my family. It's a brilliant workflow.

  • @majestikgenesis7407
    @majestikgenesis7407 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Samsung would never. I was considering possibly changing but after seeing this it's a hell no

  • @anonymouspdg6121
    @anonymouspdg6121 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really dumb question. I've never imported images from iPhone to Lightroom on a MacBook. How do you do it? Just connect the phone via lightning / USB C? Or is there a different process?

    • @mk1photography62
      @mk1photography62 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just use LR CC on your mobile and upload

    • @CarlLoop
      @CarlLoop ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mk1photography62 is that mobile upload very slow for the large 48mp raw files? Do you do them one shot at a time, or send several large raw files at the same time? I'm still probing how to move large amounts of data with the very limited speed the iPhone 14 pro has (due to lighting port)...

  • @siaulk
    @siaulk ปีที่แล้ว

    How come I don’t have that underexposed images when shooting in .dng with my iPhone 13 pro?

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have uniform lighting in the photo there might be no need for iPhone to underexpose. It’s doing it in high contrast scenes to retain details in highlights

  • @quarka
    @quarka ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you do what you said at 3:00 ? At that point can't you just take 49 MP Jpeg files ?

  • @ron2507
    @ron2507 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we’re not gonna do any post production, what offers the best photo results, raw or not raw which I think is JPEG on the iPhone? Thanks.

    • @RC75
      @RC75 ปีที่แล้ว

      JPEG for 100%. RAW will look flat, not much colors etc. If you do post processing always RAW because you have more possibilities. Been a professional photographer for 22 years so trust my answer.

    • @ron2507
      @ron2507 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RC75 when comparing raw and JPEG, even without post processing I think the raw looks better maybe a little dull in the colors but when you crop you could clearly see a big difference. I’ll always shoot in raw and do some quick post processing on my phone.

    • @RC75
      @RC75 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ron2507 So you do post processing. Then why the question?

    • @ron2507
      @ron2507 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RC75 to get answers

    • @RC75
      @RC75 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ron2507 Did you printed your RAW photos and jpeg’s?

  • @sidehustlers336
    @sidehustlers336 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cell phones are the new point and shoot cameras. They are not replacing the 35mm format any time soon

  • @user-qc6kq4bf2r
    @user-qc6kq4bf2r ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorrry but why need to zoom pics instead of look at the whole composition???

  • @newjdm
    @newjdm ปีที่แล้ว

    Took the words right out of my mouth--the cell phone now has better DR than Canon :)

  • @mohammedasif7623
    @mohammedasif7623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made that likes hit 1k 😂❤
    Very informative video.

  • @ScratThunder
    @ScratThunder ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also wished the main camera was 50mm. 24mm is way to wide for my taste.

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I’m afraid it might not be possible to achieve - bigger lens would require much bigger sensor…

    • @sidehustlers336
      @sidehustlers336 ปีที่แล้ว

      35mm I think would be great

  • @ajjosef3953
    @ajjosef3953 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @kkorzeniec
    @kkorzeniec ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You changed your avatar and I was so close to not clicking on a new video 😆

  • @bhavya5180
    @bhavya5180 ปีที่แล้ว

    but how do i transfer huge files of 48mp to my laptop or harddrive??

    • @bastian.michel
      @bastian.michel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You connect the phone, start copying, go to a three week vacation, and tataaa...ready!

    • @webfrasse
      @webfrasse ปีที่แล้ว

      If you use Photos iCloud Library the files are synced over the network so you can all files on you iPhone and on your mac (that's where the Apple ecosystem shine).

    • @_TrueDesire_
      @_TrueDesire_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@webfrasse there's an iCloud app for Windows as well, since I refuse to work on a mac 😂 I need to deal with NTFS everyday.
      Thinking of having dual boot on my mac mini though 🤔

    • @webfrasse
      @webfrasse ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_TrueDesire_ NTFS is not an issue in macOS. Been able to read it for years and a simple utility program will give full read/write functionality. Also been around for years and years. You can also run windows in a VM on a mac but you can't run macOS in a VM on Windows. I think your actual knowledge of the platforms is lacking.

    • @_TrueDesire_
      @_TrueDesire_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@webfrasse Due to security issues i'm not allowed to install apps on the computer.

  • @richardpcrowe
    @richardpcrowe ปีที่แล้ว

    A couple of things to mention: LENS HOOD - your backlit image of the couple has lens flare. Using a camera and lens with a lens hood should reduce this. FOCAL LENGTH - I prefer to use a longer focal length for portraits (a minimum of 85mm on a full frame camera) FILL FLASH - I prefer to use fill flash with virtually all of my portrait work PROFESSIONAL LOOK - not the image; You! Using a camera with a decent size lens makes you look more like a professional. I am ordering a iPhone 14 Pro Max and will shoot stills with it occasionally but, will shoot a lot of videos with it. STABILIZATION Although the 14 Pro Max has stabilization - I would use the phone for video on my G6Max gimbal.

    • @Oilcommunist
      @Oilcommunist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you compared raw images from your 14 pro with images from your camera? How is it?

  • @malikkelly
    @malikkelly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For posting on social media, which is where a lot of people's work go. On platforms like Instagram the difference is nearly negligible. I'm pretty sure you can fool an entire audience with well planned shoots like you did and they wouldn't know better or THINK to doubt it because they already know you to be a photographer using pro gear

  • @karolmilewski6001
    @karolmilewski6001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maciej kusiciel, mam dość tych filmów i kolejnych wydatków... :P

  • @adrianfaulkner1353
    @adrianfaulkner1353 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The end of the pro camera? Maybe.

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually wonder - which of 4 main camera manufacturers will bring computational photography in their top cameras

    • @leemjfreeman9856
      @leemjfreeman9856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer none. It's a completely different market. Professional cameras will remain professional cameras, without computational handholding IMO. If that day ever comes - then the camera dies - as there will no longer be a valid reason to buy a camera, when all the technology is already on a phone. It's all about perception, which is the very reason I will never take a phone to a professional gig e.g. wedding photography

    • @whitecrowuk575
      @whitecrowuk575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer well they behind way behind in this respect. It’s totally different know how and they would have to invest heavily. They have already lost huge sales due to phone cameras and still don’t follow suit. I dream about bigger sensor/camera that would combine both - such a combination would blow everything out of the water.

    • @kbarrett1844
      @kbarrett1844 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer Camera manufacturers have been utilizing computational photography for quite some time. However, they cannot keep pace with phone manufacturer's development nor do they have a desire to fully embrace it. With that said, SONY is probably in the best position to ramp things up if they wanted to do so.

    • @sidehustlers336
      @sidehustlers336 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No. Phone cameras are really good in decent light. Aside from that the 35mm format has a certain look achieved by certain focal lengths that the phones cannot reproduce. Like sports photos or portraits shit with the 70-200 f2.8. Among others. Also try shooting a soccer game with the best cell phone out there. Or a wedding in bad light. You see where I’m going?

  • @sackk94
    @sackk94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This wasn't a comparison, it was a iphone camera review wtf

  • @piotr.czechowski
    @piotr.czechowski ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RAW = no live photos :(

  • @niceyesplease
    @niceyesplease ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well I still hate taking photos with a phone. 😄

  • @tplyons5459
    @tplyons5459 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry but putting a camera in a phone is as dumb as putting a phone in DSLR. They are nothing but overpriced yuppie toys

    • @webfrasse
      @webfrasse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry but development left you behind...

    • @tplyons5459
      @tplyons5459 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@webfrasse How? I have and use 52 and 102mp cameras, how am I left behind? A couple of years ago a (real) combat photographer who was covering the wars in the old Soviet Union. He said in anger that if someone grabs a shot with their phones, How dare they call themselves a photographer. Point well taken in my book.

    • @webfrasse
      @webfrasse ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tplyons5459 So in your mind it's the camera that takes good photos? Okidoki...

    • @tplyons5459
      @tplyons5459 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@webfrasse Too many times its "look at the photo my camera took" Any camera is a slack jawed recorder of anything you point it at. When I do an image with the intent of a door sized mural I would never use anything remotely like a phone. When you say 48mp you have to ask how big are them. Their size has a very great influence on tonal range etc etc. If it's your version of a replacement for a Brownie then fine.

    • @webfrasse
      @webfrasse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tplyons5459 I'm not a professional photographer but I have used and still use professional / aemi professional gear since the mid 70's and guess what. Technology has advanced and still do. Does an iPhone replace dedicated cameras at every occasion? Obviously not. The best camera is still the one you have with you though. It's now getting close to where computational photography is on par with dedicated cameras. Smartphone cameras has already killed the whole segment of compact cameras. I have a drawer full of these Canon cameras and my iPhone 14 Pro is way better than any of them even though they have much bigger sensors. It's at the point now that I have a hard time telling an iPhone image apart from one from my Fuji X100F or X-E3.