It depends on how many RAM does your system use. Usually Win 11 needs about 4-5GB at stock (if no background apps are working). With active background apps it can easily go up to 6-8GB and even more. So in this case you definitely need 32GB to play games w/o any issues. On the other hand, optimized Win with disabled unnecessary functions (like telemetry, auto updates etc.) the system itself uses just about 2GB of RAM. So in this case 16GB if RAM is enough for 99% of modern games, since most games need just about 5-10GB of RAM, if we are talking about real usage (not allocation).
The problem that I have with this test is that you have 32gb in dual channel. But you are running the 16 gb in single channel. That could explain the differences in the 1% lows
100 percent Fact! Single channel ram 16gigs vs duel channel 16gigs generally makes a huge difference. I am shocked this single channel 16gigs can produce such good numbers compared to duel channel 32gigs
RAM is not just quantity. It's a mix between the CPU cache quantity, the quantity of ram, the type of memory (DDR3, DDR4, DDR5) and platform, and speed timmings of it. I've noticed a few games that were having some slight micro stutterings with 16GB DDR4 3600mhz CL18, and my 5600x, but when i got my 5700x3d with more cache (and my memory finaly works at CL16-16-16), that stuttering is all gone in all games i've tested. So it's not just quantity... for example if you go from a 16gb 3600CL16-16-16 to a 32gb 18-19-19 with a 5600x, you are probably having less performance, not an upgrade...
My short answer: No. My long answer: It depends on what you do, what games you play, and what software you use. For older AAA games, some eSports titles, and some well-optimized new AAA games, 16 GB is still enough. An example of a poor optimized game that becomes unplayable with 16GB RAM is Warzone 2.0. But at the price, 32GB is selling, it is dumb af to build with only 16GB.
More RAM helps with stutter fixing. I noticed that years ago, when comparing 4 to 8 on videos, I didn't know why people thought RAM would mean more fps. Im upgrading from 8 and have been using it for like 4 years. Its best to get used. I get all my parts cheap and in good condition.
partially true as games get more complicated ofcourse the amount of ram needed will keep increasing. who know magbe 32 GB ram will be a must in 8 years or earlier
@@Dark-28200 graphics Kcvltist are to blame. Needs a redundant lighting effects or details of horse balls in expense of gpu performance and optimization. Today's graphic demands are just waste of money, hurts the environment (high electric consumption, gpu chips needs more resources to build etc) and overall unnecessary.
Not really. More like they are just having too many high quality assets, or way too many complex simulations. And you probably can reduce quality settings to reduce memory usage and complain how terrible the assets look like now compared to best assets game has. Memory usage is mostly about storing things in memory that are needed soon so that game doesn't have to wait it to come from a disk to be shown. Of course it's really POSSIBLE to waste memory without asset quality or size of world stored in memory be the reason, but those kind of mistakes are something people probably learn to avoid easily, and they would more likely waste MEGABYTES of memory instead of Gigabytes. But once had someone put an enormous image for small picture in a school mobile game project and my phone always crashed because memory usage, but I used some debugger memory viewer to find the reason, and told him to fix tReal thing is that he size of image to not spend hundred megabytes or something for asset that only needed few kilobytes. So that was extreme example of too high quality asset for the use case and that kind of mistakes are caught by people looking into it. But actual real mistakes like that can be found and fixed, and people learn quickly about that. The real issue is that you will get a game that's made to work with 16GB of ram on console with console disk and decompressing engine. PC needs more RAM than console for things that console doesn't have to do, that pushes the game slightly over console limit, and because PC:s load assets slower, it needs to have more assets in memory to have same experience. You are just getting a well developed game that's made for other system, that your system would need a bit more RAM to match experience. Anyway RAM is cheap on overall PC budget. And my rule of thumb is get double what your largest program uses so that you don't need to manage it manually with different programs so you don't need to manage it manually closing and opening programs.
@kaidanalenko5222 yeah honestly my heaviest games are hearts of iron 4 and other paradox interactive games and they are only heavy because of bad optimization
1vs2 channel ram memory?? how big is the difference?? i have 16gb=2*8gb now and i thought about getting 32gb if i get 32*1gb or 16gb*2 how would this in difference be?(i guess 16*2gb is the best but just curious).. Thanks
I'm super inefficient in how I use my PC. I don't close my browser tabs and I leave discord on in the background. I also know that Windows is a bloated OS and there could be background processes going on like virus scans and updates. DDR4 these days is cheap so I went with a 32GB 3600 GSkill kit. If anything, the only regret I have is not going 64GB originally when I did my build last year.
Hey man, I’m really confused whether to get one of two different laptops. I will list the specs below and I’d really appreciate it if you can give me your opinion on which I should get: Zephyrus g14: 14” display. OLED 3K 120 Hz Ryzen 9 8945HS 32 GB RAM GeForce RTX 4070 1 TB SSD Zephyrus G16: 16” display. OLED 2.5K 240 Hz Intel Core Ultra 9 16 GB RAM GeForce RTX 4070 1 TB SSD Please keep in mind that the ram in these laptops is soldered in so I don’t have the option to upgrade it later on. What I really want is the G16. I really want the larger display (since it’ll be the only display I’ll have) and the dark grey color it comes in (unlike the g14 which only comes in a white color). It also has a higher refresh rate, and a better CPU. Everything about it is better…except for the ram. I’m worried that I’ll face problems with the RAM in the long run since I’m planning on keeping this laptop for atleast 5 years. I’m getting this for some gaming (mainly games such as COD, GTA, and some others) in addition to school work (which won’t be demanding). I like everything about the G16 more except for obviously the ram. Do you think this difference in ram is worth me choosing the g14 instead?
@@supbro2328 I got the 16gb one and it’s amazing. I totally recommend especially if u want the 16 inch screen. The oled screen is perfect and I don’t think burn in is that much of a problem in modern devices. So far the 16gb is working really well and I haven’t been in a situation where I’ve needed more. I’ll see how it holds up in the next few weeks. It does get a bit hot tho but that’s not much of a problem for me.
I don't understand, I do Sim Racing in VR on AMS 2, And my older Motherboard a Gigabyte H610i I had 16gb of DDR4 and when I had a full track of cars, The stuttering was bad, So I put another 16gb to make the 32gb, And guess what stutters stopped, I just upgraded my Motherboard to a MSI Z690 DDR5, I was on the fence about DDR5 at first, But damn DDR5 is actually better than DDR4 in a noticeable way with VR, I thought I was going mad, lol, But no the colors using the MSI Z690 with DDR5 have woke my i5 12600k right up, My Sim Racing in VR is better using the MSI Z690 to when I was using the Gigabyte H610i motherboard, So yes better motherboard with DDR5 ram is going to give you better sim racing experience, I only do simulation games, lol, The only arcadie game I do play is IL2-Sturmovic, Fantastic World War 2 flying game by the way, Brilliant in VR, But I think you do need a flight stick to experience Flying games, Like I use a T300 GT-RD wheel, Fantastic steering wheel the T300 is, Comes up as a T500 by the way, lol... But yeah 32gb of ram makes that much difference to me, I am waiting for another 16gb to be delivered from Amazon, Oh yeah i got a MSI Z690 Unify motherboard for 160 pounds the other week, Back to school sales, 160 pounds for a Z690 from MSI, Is a fantastic deal, Like I said the i5 12600k actually feels like the CPU has properly woken up, lol, I have not benchmarked my PC yet, But an i5 12600k on a MSI Z690, With the 12gb 3060 makes for a pretty decent Sim Racing PC, And I can get 70-75fps, On my Quest 2, I can't wait to get a Quest 3, I hear the Quest 3 is worlds better than the Quest 2, How true is that, Can anyone tell me how much of a difference the Quest 3 is from the Quest 2, For AMS 2, And simulation titles, I can't do the shoot em games or violent games, As I suffer with Complex PTSD, The blood and violence gives me horrible nightmares and PTSD symptoms, And believe me Complex PTSD is not fun to live with, Because the Complex Part, It doesn't go, The symptoms can always be triggered, Nightmares though have reduced since I done sim racing in VR, So if anyone reading this gets bad nightmares, Try VR before you go to bed, If it helps me have less nightmares then surely it can do the same for others, I loves VR, The ability to learn how to do things, Like putting an engine together, Want to do an operation, Fly a plane, VTOL VR is excellent for that, I would even say that if you was to learn how to fly a plane on Microsoft Flight Sim, I bet you could jump in a plane for real and fly it, Some dude in America stole a plane from learning to fly with simulation, Hew ended up crashing the plane though, But I think he wanted to crash it, If I remember right, So yeah I think using VR you could learn a lot of skills...... Yeah I had to get another 16gb for the MSI Z690 motherboard, And I do think that 32gb is not only future proofing as games are using more and more ram ever time a game is released, I think even updates in games can make the ram be used up at 16gb, bit like the GPU's now, Even the 12gb 3060 I bought only about a year ago, Is starting to show age, Next I will have to get a 16gb GPU, I want a 4070ti, And I did read there is a new 4070 coming out when the 50 series drops, So I read, I am waiting until the 50 series comes out, Until I get a new GPU.... Or try grab one in black Friday sales, I am getting iRacing when the black Friday sales drop, I was told I can get 12 months iRacing for a lot cheaper during the Black Friday, So I will wait, For now I got AMS 2, And AMS 2 in VR is flipping amazing.... But yeah I think 32gb is the new sweet spot for gaming, lol.... Do you do Sim racing as well as Flight simulation, I can picture you being a Euro Truck 2 driver, lol, Am I right, lol, ETS 2 is fantastic for a relaxing Sunday drive in a lorry, And having the amount of Countries Euro Truck 2 got, Is pretty bad ass, Same as MFS, All the Airports and ect, Is pretty staggering considering how much the simulation games have got bigger in such a small amount of time, Imagine what gaming will be like in another 10 years, We will have the Room on the Enterprise starship, Holographic graphics, Do people think that holographic room will ever be a thing?, lol...... But yeah 32gb is what a PC really needs to run without stuttering, Plain and simples, lol......
If i dont plan to play much, except for non demanding games, or retro, and use my laptop for illustrator and photoshop, is 16 enough? I ask because the laptop im looking at won’t let me upgrade later on.
Yes, 16 is enough as long as you’re not working with large video files. If you’re working on videos that are 10 minutes or longer, you will need more RAM.
if you not play hogwarts on 4k rt on dlss/fsr3 all maxed out is 16gb enought but if you want max out it, it needs 22gb ram :D befor 1,5 years at windows 11 max i reached was 27gb, windows needs at this time 13gb ram with discord and a video in opera at 1080p 50fps (idle 6,8gb) at blender windows needs 49,5gb with yt in background with music.... (testet with the pc from my bigsis bcz. she was thinking she needs 64gb for anything... (i call it flex...) at my arch linux now with plasma 6.1.3. and some tools in background i play the same game with 11gb, my linux needs 6,2gb ram with 3 programms, discord, brave and yt at 1440p 60fps videos (idle 2,4gb ram) at linux with blender and yt for music in background it needs 22gb ram so is my 15,9gb enought yes it is :D
Good video. Ram is very cheap these days. Just put in 32gb. I got a 64gb 3200 kit for $99 Cdn on sale, not the best gaming ram but it's great for an office pc.
What people dont get to see here is. The textures, pop in, softening and even artifacts. The ram does allow for tectures to load in better when moving. Peoppe think its all on the vram and its not true! With my eyes i notice it. I even had it happen on wukong today with a freinds 16gb changed to 32 no more graphical issues. Just saying! Its not just about fps lol. Its also about the game you test and how its utilizing it. Its why some devs recdomend more some less even if one uses more they may have developed it to rely on ram and apread out ram usage more across vram and ram.
I feel like these games your playing are using way more ram than they use for me. I know you have the settings maxed out but I typically do the same and I never see ram usage quite that high
It’s truly depends which games are you playing if your playing tarkov for instance which is high on ram usage you should use 32gb of ram which is ideal for that specific game that have long range of terrain but 16gb can do good as well but you’d experience stutters from time to time & those stutters are actually what you need to remove. Surprisingly I play dayZ and 16gb ram runs smoothly with it so it comes down to the games that are built in by the devs
i vaguely recall gamers nexus testing two vs. four sticks of the same total amount of ram, but can't remember whether this made a more than negligible difference - i think that there was more variation between single and dual rank kits (which was also small enough it made no 'real world' difference iirc)
Most of us play games (AAA) titles or multiplayers (mostly CPU intensive) games along with discord and other apps on our background. so 32 gigs (minimum) seems like a recommendation right now, 16 is kinda low for today;s usage unless you have no friends and play everything on your own with only the game exe file running :P
there is also difference in performance if you have 4x8GB or 2x16GB with the 32GB one, so is 4x4GB or 2x8GB with 16GB, if you tested 2x8GB and 4x8GB then there is for sure gonna be bigger difference. try 2x16GB vs 4x8GB.
Honestly you have the best budget gamer vids that I have ever seen you remind me of Linus in his prime that is 11 years ago ❤ Much love keep up the brilliant work.
I run plenty of apps like Firefox and Discord, Steam, etc, plus all the Windows processes .. using 8 to 12GB of RAM.. in my case, 32GB of DDR4 ... I would like to do 64GB of RAM on my next future build.
I have a Ryzen 5800x, 32GB cl16, and rtx 3090 ... I've played games where my PC used up to 24GB of system ram
It's not "real use" is just allocated RAM like the VRAM does.
Cyberpunk doesn't even use that much, wtf are you playing lol
@@TouhouGaijin Modded games can gobble ram up very quickly, xcom2 immediately comes to mind in that regard
close your porn tabs 🙄
It depends on how many RAM does your system use. Usually Win 11 needs about 4-5GB at stock (if no background apps are working). With active background apps it can easily go up to 6-8GB and even more. So in this case you definitely need 32GB to play games w/o any issues.
On the other hand, optimized Win with disabled unnecessary functions (like telemetry, auto updates etc.) the system itself uses just about 2GB of RAM. So in this case 16GB if RAM is enough for 99% of modern games, since most games need just about 5-10GB of RAM, if we are talking about real usage (not allocation).
The problem that I have with this test is that you have 32gb in dual channel. But you are running the 16 gb in single channel. That could explain the differences in the 1% lows
100 percent Fact! Single channel ram 16gigs vs duel channel 16gigs generally makes a huge difference. I am shocked this single channel 16gigs can produce such good numbers compared to duel channel 32gigs
check his ram link, he used the 8gbx4 32gb
@@ToxicGamer-n2m I'm shocked you can't spell dual correctly.
RAM is not just quantity. It's a mix between the CPU cache quantity, the quantity of ram, the type of memory (DDR3, DDR4, DDR5) and platform, and speed timmings of it. I've noticed a few games that were having some slight micro stutterings with 16GB DDR4 3600mhz CL18, and my 5600x, but when i got my 5700x3d with more cache (and my memory finaly works at CL16-16-16), that stuttering is all gone in all games i've tested. So it's not just quantity... for example if you go from a 16gb 3600CL16-16-16 to a 32gb 18-19-19 with a 5600x, you are probably having less performance, not an upgrade...
My short answer: No.
My long answer:
It depends on what you do, what games you play, and what software you use.
For older AAA games, some eSports titles, and some well-optimized new AAA games, 16 GB is still enough.
An example of a poor optimized game that becomes unplayable with 16GB RAM is Warzone 2.0.
But at the price, 32GB is selling, it is dumb af to build with only 16GB.
how much is enough? *NO*
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j never enough.
Same with high frequency. Games can't even utilise it but some apps for production only can. Mostly scam.
Thats just wrong, warzone 2.0 is completely playable with 16 gb
More RAM helps with stutter fixing. I noticed that years ago, when comparing 4 to 8 on videos, I didn't know why people thought RAM would mean more fps. Im upgrading from 8 and have been using it for like 4 years. Its best to get used. I get all my parts cheap and in good condition.
You need to test using 2nd monitor playing youtube or something going on the 2nd monitor.
I had 16GB and noticed alot of stuttering and now with 32GB it's gone
What games you had trouble with???
(Stuttering)
2k25???
16gb DDR5 for gaming is fine. Random people on the internet love making stuff up in reddit posts and so on
How about 24GB RAM configurations for gaming, editing, and streaming with a bunch of apps/software/stuff in the background running in the same time?
If the game uses more than 16gb ram the devs are bad !!!!!
partially true
as games get more complicated ofcourse the amount of ram needed will keep increasing.
who know magbe 32 GB ram will be a must in 8 years or earlier
@@Dark-28200 graphics Kcvltist are to blame. Needs a redundant lighting effects or details of horse balls in expense of gpu performance and optimization. Today's graphic demands are just waste of money, hurts the environment (high electric consumption, gpu chips needs more resources to build etc) and overall unnecessary.
Not really. More like they are just having too many high quality assets, or way too many complex simulations. And you probably can reduce quality settings to reduce memory usage and complain how terrible the assets look like now compared to best assets game has. Memory usage is mostly about storing things in memory that are needed soon so that game doesn't have to wait it to come from a disk to be shown. Of course it's really POSSIBLE to waste memory without asset quality or size of world stored in memory be the reason, but those kind of mistakes are something people probably learn to avoid easily, and they would more likely waste MEGABYTES of memory instead of Gigabytes.
But once had someone put an enormous image for small picture in a school mobile game project and my phone always crashed because memory usage, but I used some debugger memory viewer to find the reason, and told him to fix tReal thing is that he size of image to not spend hundred megabytes or something for asset that only needed few kilobytes. So that was extreme example of too high quality asset for the use case and that kind of mistakes are caught by people looking into it. But actual real mistakes like that can be found and fixed, and people learn quickly about that.
The real issue is that you will get a game that's made to work with 16GB of ram on console with console disk and decompressing engine. PC needs more RAM than console for things that console doesn't have to do, that pushes the game slightly over console limit, and because PC:s load assets slower, it needs to have more assets in memory to have same experience. You are just getting a well developed game that's made for other system, that your system would need a bit more RAM to match experience.
Anyway RAM is cheap on overall PC budget. And my rule of thumb is get double what your largest program uses so that you don't need to manage it manually with different programs so you don't need to manage it manually closing and opening programs.
*laughs while playing Once Human* Eating my 16 gigs 😂
@kaidanalenko5222 yeah honestly my heaviest games are hearts of iron 4 and other paradox interactive games and they are only heavy because of bad optimization
Even Prepar3D version 4 that I run with all the heavy ORBX addons never uses more than around 8 GB of RAM.
would have been cool to have shown some competitive games which are more CPU reliant
So for me to upgrade to 32 g-skill ram is 35 dollars. I think I will make the investment. The whole system will be smoother for everything I do.
1vs2 channel ram memory?? how big is the difference?? i have 16gb=2*8gb now and i thought about getting 32gb if i get 32*1gb or 16gb*2 how would this in difference be?(i guess 16*2gb is the best but just curious)..
Thanks
Always use dual channel (2 slots of ram)
I'm super inefficient in how I use my PC. I don't close my browser tabs and I leave discord on in the background. I also know that Windows is a bloated OS and there could be background processes going on like virus scans and updates. DDR4 these days is cheap so I went with a 32GB 3600 GSkill kit. If anything, the only regret I have is not going 64GB originally when I did my build last year.
I have 16 gb but recently bought 7900 xt and new case so why not to have 32 gb in 2024 ❤
Hey man, I’m really confused whether to get one of two different laptops. I will list the specs below and I’d really appreciate it if you can give me your opinion on which I should get:
Zephyrus g14:
14” display.
OLED 3K 120 Hz
Ryzen 9 8945HS
32 GB RAM
GeForce RTX 4070
1 TB SSD
Zephyrus G16:
16” display.
OLED 2.5K 240 Hz
Intel Core Ultra 9
16 GB RAM
GeForce RTX 4070
1 TB SSD
Please keep in mind that the ram in these laptops is soldered in so I don’t have the option to upgrade it later on.
What I really want is the G16. I really want the larger display (since it’ll be the only display I’ll have) and the dark grey color it comes in (unlike the g14 which only comes in a white color). It also has a higher refresh rate, and a better CPU. Everything about it is better…except for the ram.
I’m worried that I’ll face problems with the RAM in the long run since I’m planning on keeping this laptop for atleast 5 years.
I’m getting this for some gaming (mainly games such as COD, GTA, and some others) in addition to school work (which won’t be demanding). I like everything about the G16 more except for obviously the ram. Do you think this difference in ram is worth me choosing the g14 instead?
I'm literally in the same situation as you I might get the 16gb one cause 2k is a lot of money just for 32 gb
Cause I want one of those laptops but my concern is the 32gb and the OLED screen burning in
@@supbro2328 I got the 16gb one and it’s amazing. I totally recommend especially if u want the 16 inch screen. The oled screen is perfect and I don’t think burn in is that much of a problem in modern devices. So far the 16gb is working really well and I haven’t been in a situation where I’ve needed more. I’ll see how it holds up in the next few weeks. It does get a bit hot tho but that’s not much of a problem for me.
depends on what u need a laptop for
Just building a new system got two 32gb sticks for this new PC 👍
I don't understand, I do Sim Racing in VR on AMS 2, And my older Motherboard a Gigabyte H610i I had 16gb of DDR4 and when I had a full track of cars, The stuttering was bad, So I put another 16gb to make the 32gb, And guess what stutters stopped, I just upgraded my Motherboard to a MSI Z690 DDR5, I was on the fence about DDR5 at first, But damn DDR5 is actually better than DDR4 in a noticeable way with VR, I thought I was going mad, lol, But no the colors using the MSI Z690 with DDR5 have woke my i5 12600k right up, My Sim Racing in VR is better using the MSI Z690 to when I was using the Gigabyte H610i motherboard, So yes better motherboard with DDR5 ram is going to give you better sim racing experience, I only do simulation games, lol, The only arcadie game I do play is IL2-Sturmovic, Fantastic World War 2 flying game by the way, Brilliant in VR, But I think you do need a flight stick to experience Flying games, Like I use a T300 GT-RD wheel, Fantastic steering wheel the T300 is, Comes up as a T500 by the way, lol...
But yeah 32gb of ram makes that much difference to me, I am waiting for another 16gb to be delivered from Amazon, Oh yeah i got a MSI Z690 Unify motherboard for 160 pounds the other week, Back to school sales, 160 pounds for a Z690 from MSI, Is a fantastic deal, Like I said the i5 12600k actually feels like the CPU has properly woken up, lol, I have not benchmarked my PC yet, But an i5 12600k on a MSI Z690, With the 12gb 3060 makes for a pretty decent Sim Racing PC, And I can get 70-75fps, On my Quest 2, I can't wait to get a Quest 3, I hear the Quest 3 is worlds better than the Quest 2, How true is that, Can anyone tell me how much of a difference the Quest 3 is from the Quest 2, For AMS 2, And simulation titles, I can't do the shoot em games or violent games, As I suffer with Complex PTSD, The blood and violence gives me horrible nightmares and PTSD symptoms, And believe me Complex PTSD is not fun to live with, Because the Complex Part, It doesn't go, The symptoms can always be triggered, Nightmares though have reduced since I done sim racing in VR, So if anyone reading this gets bad nightmares, Try VR before you go to bed, If it helps me have less nightmares then surely it can do the same for others, I loves VR, The ability to learn how to do things, Like putting an engine together, Want to do an operation, Fly a plane, VTOL VR is excellent for that, I would even say that if you was to learn how to fly a plane on Microsoft Flight Sim, I bet you could jump in a plane for real and fly it, Some dude in America stole a plane from learning to fly with simulation, Hew ended up crashing the plane though, But I think he wanted to crash it, If I remember right, So yeah I think using VR you could learn a lot of skills......
Yeah I had to get another 16gb for the MSI Z690 motherboard, And I do think that 32gb is not only future proofing as games are using more and more ram ever time a game is released, I think even updates in games can make the ram be used up at 16gb, bit like the GPU's now, Even the 12gb 3060 I bought only about a year ago, Is starting to show age, Next I will have to get a 16gb GPU, I want a 4070ti, And I did read there is a new 4070 coming out when the 50 series drops, So I read, I am waiting until the 50 series comes out, Until I get a new GPU....
Or try grab one in black Friday sales, I am getting iRacing when the black Friday sales drop, I was told I can get 12 months iRacing for a lot cheaper during the Black Friday, So I will wait, For now I got AMS 2, And AMS 2 in VR is flipping amazing....
But yeah I think 32gb is the new sweet spot for gaming, lol....
Do you do Sim racing as well as Flight simulation, I can picture you being a Euro Truck 2 driver, lol, Am I right, lol, ETS 2 is fantastic for a relaxing Sunday drive in a lorry, And having the amount of Countries Euro Truck 2 got, Is pretty bad ass, Same as MFS, All the Airports and ect, Is pretty staggering considering how much the simulation games have got bigger in such a small amount of time, Imagine what gaming will be like in another 10 years, We will have the Room on the Enterprise starship, Holographic graphics, Do people think that holographic room will ever be a thing?, lol......
But yeah 32gb is what a PC really needs to run without stuttering, Plain and simples, lol......
And if you build 64gb will it use more than 32??
Interesting question. If my wallet would allow maybe we could find out some day!
If i dont plan to play much, except for non demanding games, or retro, and use my laptop for illustrator and photoshop, is 16 enough? I ask because the laptop im looking at won’t let me upgrade later on.
Yes, 16 is enough as long as you’re not working with large video files. If you’re working on videos that are 10 minutes or longer, you will need more RAM.
idk in tarkov the difference is huge
if you not play hogwarts on 4k rt on dlss/fsr3 all maxed out is 16gb enought but if you want max out it, it needs 22gb ram :D
befor 1,5 years at windows 11 max i reached was 27gb, windows needs at this time 13gb ram with discord and a video in opera at 1080p 50fps (idle 6,8gb) at blender windows needs 49,5gb with yt in background with music....
(testet with the pc from my bigsis bcz. she was thinking she needs 64gb for anything... (i call it flex...)
at my arch linux now with plasma 6.1.3. and some tools in background i play the same game with 11gb, my linux needs 6,2gb ram with 3 programms, discord, brave and yt at 1440p 60fps videos (idle 2,4gb ram) at linux with blender and yt for music in background it needs 22gb ram so is my 15,9gb enought yes it is :D
16gb is enough but not recommended
Max been dead for 8 years it's rare games showing a big diffrence it's no reason to use it high runs way better
cry in 8gb
Dry cry cause the tears are still loading 😆
Good video. Ram is very cheap these days. Just put in 32gb. I got a 64gb 3200 kit for $99 Cdn on sale, not the best gaming ram but it's great for an office pc.
yeah so cheap it creates a new problem fill the remaining 2 slots or and get stuck with 32 or buy new 4 * 16gigs for 64gb total
What people dont get to see here is. The textures, pop in, softening and even artifacts. The ram does allow for tectures to load in better when moving. Peoppe think its all on the vram and its not true! With my eyes i notice it. I even had it happen on wukong today with a freinds 16gb changed to 32 no more graphical issues. Just saying!
Its not just about fps lol.
Its also about the game you test and how its utilizing it. Its why some devs recdomend more some less even if one uses more they may have developed it to rely on ram and apread out ram usage more across vram and ram.
DONT FOCUS AT AVG FPS
FOCUS AT 0.1% FPS
BECAUSE THAT THE MAIN ONE FOR LONGER GAMEPLAY
OK THANKS
I feel like these games your playing are using way more ram than they use for me. I know you have the settings maxed out but I typically do the same and I never see ram usage quite that high
It’s truly depends which games are you playing if your playing tarkov for instance which is high on ram usage you should use 32gb of ram which is ideal for that specific game that have long range of terrain but 16gb can do good as well but you’d experience stutters from time to time & those stutters are actually what you need to remove. Surprisingly I play dayZ and 16gb ram runs smoothly with it so it comes down to the games that are built in by the devs
i vaguely recall gamers nexus testing two vs. four sticks of the same total amount of ram, but can't remember whether this made a more than negligible difference - i think that there was more variation between single and dual rank kits (which was also small enough it made no 'real world' difference iirc)
I would go with a faster 16gb ram kit than a kit of slower 32gb.
Agreed.
What's impressive is running these games on 4k, extreme settings and the GPU temp doesn't exceed 67 degrees!
Well i use my 32gb ram for only one reason that is virtualization.
Most of us play games (AAA) titles or multiplayers (mostly CPU intensive) games along with discord and other apps on our background. so 32 gigs (minimum) seems like a recommendation right now, 16 is kinda low for today;s usage unless you have no friends and play everything on your own with only the game exe file running :P
there is also difference in performance if you have 4x8GB or 2x16GB with the 32GB one, so is 4x4GB or 2x8GB with 16GB, if you tested 2x8GB and 4x8GB then there is for sure gonna be bigger difference. try 2x16GB vs 4x8GB.
Awesome
Its not enough for what i need so i recently upgraded.
I decided to go with 64 GB :-)
Honestly you have the best budget gamer vids that I have ever seen you remind me of Linus in his prime that is 11 years ago ❤
Much love keep up the brilliant work.
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Same ram 🤓👍
Bionik?
I run plenty of apps like Firefox and Discord, Steam, etc, plus all the Windows processes .. using 8 to 12GB of RAM.. in my case, 32GB of DDR4 ...
I would like to do 64GB of RAM on my next future build.
Good call! Yeah it’ll be interesting to see when the conversation shifts to 32 vs 64
AI needs 64 GB Ram
32gb is barely riding the line.
64gb should be what any new build goes for.
Whats makes you think that?
@@Rony542 If that's the case. Console wins over the PC losers.🙄