Testing Games Video uploads every year: january: 16Gb vs 32gb Feb: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Mär: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Apr: 16 GB vs 32GB Mai: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Jun: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Jul: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Aug: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Sep: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Okt: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Nov: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB Dez: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Completely wrong, look at the 1% and 0.1% lows in every game tested. On the 16gb systems vs 32gb, the 32gb may use 1-8gb more ram, and the 16gb would be stuttery. Example: Hogwarts Legacy, Avatar, Warzone, Forza Horizon, AC MIrage. Basically every game other than cyberpunk.
that absolutely doesn't matter, those 1% and .1% lows happen in a mere milliseconds. the average FPS is what you want to look at because it means the biggest portion of the time.
I bought another 16GB mainly because I keep a lot of browser tabs and other junk open so I easily consumed all the 16GB I had when running newer and more demanding games. But 16GB is still the sweet spot for sure
I disagree, this video clearly showed that you don't need more if you are just gaming and a sweet spot is not spending more on something you technically don't need. It is getting full use out of something for the best price possible. 32GB is a luxury, not a necessity at this point @@Definedd
Nope, 32 is the new sweet spot since last year. Though technically capacity-wise it is closer to 24GB instead of 32GB, but who in the world nowadays bought two different sized RAM sticks aside from those laptop users who happened to have a soldered 8GB memory, leaving only a single SODIMM slot available to be upgraded?
@@hadifelani absolutely agree. 32gig is a must for new PC in 2024. it is not even a discussion. there is barely any 2х8 kits available, 90%+ kits are 2х16.
Note this is tested on a X3D CPU, the impact might be more severe on non X3D Hardware with less L3$ due to more RW Operations to system memory.. It would be interesting to see the benefits of a non X3D and X3D CPU with both RAM configurations....
you know what reduces even more the cpu ram pcie accesses? having more vram on your gpu so there is no need to go there... but you're right that 7600x results 16gb/32gb may differe the same as using less powerful gpu like 7600 8gb /7600xt16gb, because is not the same you need to access ram or vram vs you already have it on the proper buffer or even being cached
I had 32.GB in my PC for years because RAM is so cheap, but i need 32.GB sometimes for video editing. RAM speed is more relevant. If i don't remember wrong you get up to 20% speed boost in games with DDR 5 vs DDR 4. When it comes to UE 5 Engine games, SSD Speed matters.
@@iLLgetYourAseIt does. You can find proof of it on TH-cam RAM benchmarks. "gaming ddr5 vs ddr4". I agree that it's pointless to get DDR 5 if you have DDR 4.
@@V3ntilatorThis probably because of processor differences and not the ram itself. In any case, it wouldn’t make a difference in this video as he’s using an X3D CPU.
@@noidsuper Yeah, that's true. There is also games that relies more on RAM, and other games that relies more on VRAM. CPU usage between each game is so varied, because of how the games is made and if it's a open world or not. Different game engines matter too.
That's the thing, 32GB of RAM is NO LONGER getting cheaper, at least for DDR4. All IC makers like Samsung, Hynix, and Micron have all pulled back on DDR4 IC production, and prices are expected to rise throughout 2024. Some projections state that DDR4 prices could climb by 10% to 15% per quarter, but this depends on demand. If PC building and computer sales makes a strong rebound this year, you'll see DDR4 prices go up a lot this year. Not sure about DDR5 because I keep hearing different stories about DDR5 production.
Over 16gb of memory for gamers, speed and latency are WAY more than quantity!!! 32gb of ultra fast memory with ultra tight timings is gonna smoke a ton of memory with weak/loose timings and weak speed!!!!😱😱😱
Not a fair comparison. Run the same games in 1080p and you will find that 1440p is 50% GPU but 1080p utilizes more system ram instead of GPU vram and that is what you are trying to demonstrate. I'm surprised I have to explain that.
The thing people aren’t taking into account is the 1% and 0.1% lows and how much better they are, equalling a smoother experience. For as cheap as 16gb of ram is for most people, it’s a worthwhile upgrade.
@@sinenomine4540 3 games showed a massive difference, and 1 game showed a massive difference in the 0.1%. So 50% of the games showed a difference. Your point is?
I see, so 32gb reduces stuttering on some games due to the improvements on 1% and 0.1% lows. Hogwarts Legacy was atrocious on the PC when it comes to stuttering with my 16gb.
People who upgraded to all these high sized rams years ago already were future proofed 3 years ago and before 16gb was not needed now thats normal one day games will even need 64 which is shocking
I have an RTX 4070 even if I do 100 fps the view is completely jerky, the RTX 4070 costs a lot it's not right that I should have these problems, now I'm fed up, I've always been against PC and this gives me confirmation.
Hi, I'm one of your subscribers who has been following you for 2 years. I wanted to know some information or even if you made a video on 2 processors, an amd 7 5800xSW amd 9 5900x. but you didn't even answer me or give me an explanation, which one is better, thanks for not even having me written you are always great for me but I'm starting to DOUBT
I had 32gb for the last year, and it is worth it, 1% lows better, consistently see more than 16gb utilization, 32gigs helps a lot with multitasking, I don't have to close other programs to play any game. (keep in mind that RAM benchmark made on fresh Windows install with nothing running on the background) Also 32gig is a new standard. you will have troubles finding 2x8 ddr5 kit, 2х16 is typical for ddr5.
Not fair comparison. You should try 8gb card to correctly compare RAM amount. 3070 for example. And 16gb RAM will be completely destroyed by games. So. If you have 12gb card or more, it is possible to use 16gb of RAM with some lags (1% and 0,1% fps). If you have 8gb card - you should purchase 32-64 gb of RAM. If you want to buy a new PC even with 4090 card then you should buy 64gb of RAM with G.Skill 64 GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6800 MHz F5-6800J3445G32GX2-TZ5RK or Corsair 96 GB (2x48GB) DDR5 6600 MHz Vengeance RGB (CMH96GX5M2B6600C32) memory with even less timings.
Hey man, I’m really confused whether to get one of two different laptops. I will list the specs below and I’d really appreciate it if you can give me your opinion on which I should get: Zephyrus g14: 14” display. OLED 3K 120 Hz Ryzen 9 8945HS 32 GB RAM GeForce RTX 4070 1 TB SSD Zephyrus G16: 16” display. OLED 2.5K 240 Hz Intel Core Ultra 9 16 GB RAM GeForce RTX 4070 1 TB SSD Please keep in mind that the ram in these laptops is soldered in so I don’t have the option to upgrade it later on. What I really want is the G16. I really want the larger display (since it’ll be the only display I’ll have) and the dark grey color it comes in (unlike the g14 which only comes in a white color). It also has a higher refresh rate, and a better CPU. Everything about it is better…except for the ram. I’m worried that I’ll face problems with the RAM in the long run since I’m planning on keeping this laptop for atleast 5 years. I’m getting this for some gaming (mainly games such as COD, GTA, and some others) in addition to school work (which won’t be demanding). I like everything about the G16 more except for obviously the ram. Do you think this difference in ram is worth me choosing the g14 instead?
OS uses more RAM to itself if you have more RAM installed. I.e. if you have 8 gbs of RAM win10/11 will use 2.3-2.5 GB of RAM, for 16 GB it will use 3.5-4 GB of RAM and for 32 gb it will use 5-6 GB of RAM + background processes can consume more RAM (Nvidia, adobe, telegram etc). Only weird thing happened to Hogwarts Legacy, maybe it's not optimized well or something big and heavy was ran in background while testing Hogwarts Legacy. So it's enough to have 16 GB of RAM nowadays. Maybe 24 GB of ram in near future (i.e. 16+8) as reserve.
Actually, 16 or 32 GB RAM does not say anything about performance. If the game or app designed for a certain amount of RAM. Then it just like that. Not going to take more RAM if you had 32 over 16. More RAM to help you multi-task better. Not for the performance in term of loading single game/app at a time
Great work putting this together but it looks like your 3080 was maxed out on most of your tests. Wont see an increase of fps on anything, no matter how much ram you have. You are bottlenecked
This test is maybe not 100% correct. Maybe your BIOS settings are wrong. Who knows.. I have a system (RX 5700XT OC, Ryzen 5 3600 @ 4.0Ghz with 16GB DDR4 3200mhz and 2 free slots on my mainboard. Someday i was bored and had money left and decide to just buy 32GB DDR4 RAM with the same speed for 30€. Mostly i play CoD Warzone and Multiplayer and my fps jumped up to ~5 - 10 fps. It's not much but still noticable. Everything feels "smoother". My Windows boots up and shut down quicker than before.
Hogwarts Legacy was the reason I upgraded my computer last week. Most games still only need 16GB, but not for much longer. I went from 16GB to 32GB and a Ryzen 5 1600X to a Ryzen 5 5600X. In Hogwarts Legacy, the framerate went from 4FPS to a smooth 60. That is NOT an exageration.
@@Sabbalab92 that's nice, i have been researching for good gpu this past week because i want to build a new pc. Because my pc right now is kinda outdated with ryzen 5 3500 and rx 580.
The test is incorrect. The video memory capacity of the 3080 10 GB is no longer enough in some games in 2024 for 2K resolution. Therefore, RAM consumption increases. In this case, it is necessary to use a video card with a large amount of video memory. Or reduce the resolution to Full HD.
16gb already is the absolute minimum, it's not enough at all. Look at the 1% and 0.1% lows of the games on 16gb, that will be stutter you might experience
The real diference is when you gaming and have a browser with 10+ tabs like me 32gb is way more confortable, with 16gb i cant do that with the same smoothness.
bro you must try these test in games that require more than 16GB of RAM (eg. ark ascended). Can you tell me the meaning of doing this test in games that do not use more than 16GB of RAM?
Shouldve test cities skylines2.. was confused while playing it on my 16gb laptop and suddenly it stutters like crazy, turns out it uses 13gb+ ram and my laptop is busy dumping the ram to my drive. 😂😂
I just went from a cheap pny 16gb set(2x8) ddr4 2100mhz clocked to 3200mhz with tight timings, to a high end 3600mhz 32gb set(2x16). My pny performance was better, VERY GOOD actually, I will tweak the new stuff tho, it will be fine.
What games are you playing that show such a drastic difference? Cuz it may potentially be the speed the ram influencing your build the most, and not the ram size.
Скорее игры становятся все хуже и хуже, а системки растут, все благодаря критикам и индюшной санине по типу палвордов, летал компани, хелдрайв и т.д, разрабы понимают, нахер стараться, если можно лутать бабки на онлайн скотобойня для младенцев, а не заниматься норм играми и их оптимизацией, какие шикарные игры выходили в 2000,эх....
You should've tested Escape from Tarkov, that is a big example of a RAM heavy game. But other than that, 16 gb is still good enough for 1080p medium/high on most games.
I always watch something while gaming and 16GB RAM is not enough most of the time. If you only focus on your game then 16GB should be more than enough.
16GB ddr4 3600 cl18 (or 16gb ddr5 5200) and 16gb vram gpu is the way to get th most bang for your buck, unless PC go to shared memory like game consoles, why to pay 2 or 3 times more on ram for almost not uplift in perfromance? you could make a difference buying better gpu with that money...
Разница в среднем показателе не существенная - на уровне погрешности, а 1 и 0.1% да же не почувствуешь и не увидишь. Честно говоря геймерам пока что нет надобности в памяти ddr5. Игры ещë не понимают частоту выше 4200Mhz, всего пара игр на unreal 5 оптимизированны под ddr5
Developer should optimize there games im not a bank that i need to update my rig every year the last of us part 1 is a example for bad optimization the rpcs3 ps3 version run better.
this test will be so great to see with some different cpu and gpu combos other than 7800x3d/3080 10gb: -7800x3d/7500F/7600x + 4060ti 16gb/ 7600xt 16GB, vs 4060ti 8gb/7600 8gb - 7800x3d + 7900gre/6800xt/6950xt/4080/4070tiSuper16/4080 Super, 5600x/12600k/5700x 4060 ddr4 etc. what is faster cpu + 16 gb + 16 to 24GB gpu or cpu + 32GB + 8 to 12 GB gpu?
Someone please help i have a 5700x with a 7700xt and 2x8 gb of ddr 4 3600 should i buy another 2x8gb ddr 4 ?just gaming nothing else did you guys feel any diference in games?
Я так понимаю идиоты- ламеры, которые смотрят тесты, вообще нечего не понимают, зачем вы их смотрите вообще, если нечего не понимаете... 0.1% вам зачем в мониторинге, это влияет на дропы фпс и плавность самой игры, везде 32 гб в этом плане впереди, в варзон вообще огромная разница...
the difference here was the 1% lows, but for straight gaming 16gb is fine, 32gb is better when doing more than gaming, like video recording and editing, rendering, uploading, running mods etc...
PS5 and XSX have 16GB total memory for system and graphics. So 16GB is still fine for PCs for now. Most games that are also released on console will be fine running within that limit on PC. Until consoles move beyond 16GB, we'll be mostly fine. That said I do have 32GB in my gaming pc 😅 because why not
Have to remember that consoles only run the programs or software needed to operate while a PC may have other programs that you have opened in the background like your browser with over 50 tabs opened, etc.
16gb is still decent for the majority of current games but upcoming games will definitely require more ram and with the current prices 32gb is pretty much worth it
Based on the first few games 32GB help the 1% lows. I'd say if you have enough money then get 32GB instead of 16GB. If you're on a tight budget then you can save the money or put it where it's immediately useful e.g. faster GPU, bigger screen, or bigger SSD to have space for more games at once.
@@jochenkraus7016 By the moment you really fully need 32 GB of ram we will need a PC upgrade of at least GPU or even CPU, if today it's nota problem with a rtx 4090, why care i n a slower card we probably have? Today adding the 16gb additional cost to your GPU makes your FPS go higher ,average, median, lows, middle, high and the nth fractionth of FPS you randomly choose... going from 8 to 16gb gpu makes a differenece for vram dependant games , now and more i the future for sure, or more if we add quality settings in the setup of our current games...more rome for RT and superresolution to work and increase resolution without losing FPS massively... but going from 16GB to 20 or 24GB or 48 GB for gaming now or tomorrow, is a waste of money... in the future it will be needed, for sure, but now rtx 4090 playing GTA 3 only needs 2 GB GTA 4, hard to use more than 4GB. GTA V, from 2 GB to 4GB is amazing iamge quality evfen on 4K, going upwards of 6GB of vram or more than 8GB almost impossible, 12 to 16gb may be used in PS5 version but 24 Gb even at 16K don't think it being possible without changing game source code and compile new version...
But it's stupid cuz in current future it's mostly rtx graphics cards and new gen specs that makes ur whole old laptop completely outdated so I recommend to max 16gb for current use.. anyway u have to get a new laptop at some point in near future..so 32gb upgrade for a old specs laptop is stupidity 🤷🏻♂️
Games :
Alan Wake 2 - 0:06
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 1:05
CoD Warzone - 2:10
Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty - 3:16
Hogwarts Legacy - 4:25
Assassin's Creed Mirage - 5:30
Forza Horizon 5 - 6:50
Resident Evil 4 - 8:15
Starfield - 9:20
The Last of Us Part I - 10:28
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
CPU Cooler - be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 - bit.ly/35G5atV
16Gb RAM DDR5 6000Mhz - bit.ly/3BOxlni
32Gb RAM DDR5 6000Mhz - bit.ly/3BOxlni
GeForce RTX 3080 10GB - bit.ly/3hUikXp
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI
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Testing Games Video uploads every year:
january: 16Gb vs 32gb
Feb: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Mär: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Apr: 16 GB vs 32GB
Mai: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Jun: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Jul: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Aug: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Sep: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Okt: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Nov: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
Dez: 8GB vs 16 GB vs 32GB
hi testing games i hope your prepared to test all the new 40series vs the older 40 series and below im gonna bne watching out for ya vids :)
Description says 6000 m/t Ram but the link lists 5200. ???
in short, 16GB of RAM is still enough for most games, but I would still recommend taking 32GB for the future
Does 1x 16GB DDR5 vs 2x 16GB Ddr5 make much difference? Wanted to know this because ddr5 works differently from ddr4 from what I have heard.
Please make a video on 16GB ddr5 1x16 vs 16GB 8x8 ddr4 rame comparison ❤
Completely wrong, look at the 1% and 0.1% lows in every game tested. On the 16gb systems vs 32gb, the 32gb may use 1-8gb more ram, and the 16gb would be stuttery. Example: Hogwarts Legacy, Avatar, Warzone, Forza Horizon, AC MIrage. Basically every game other than cyberpunk.
You should incorporate average 1% and 0.1% lows into your graphs it'd be very beneficial for videos like this
Why test with 3080?
The fps differences might be small, but the 1% low fps sometimes is much better with 32 gb which will improve smoothness while gaming
Probably due to 32gb ram sticks usually being dual rank
It's amazing to see that such few people look at the 1% and 0.1% lows.
I wonder if RAM usage will get even worse with Windows 12.
that absolutely doesn't matter, those 1% and .1% lows happen in a mere milliseconds.
the average FPS is what you want to look at because it means the biggest portion of the time.
@@harmez7 This is of absolute importance if you want a smooth game without microfreezes. Today 32 GB is the minimum for modern AAA games.
@@m8x425 why would all reviewers show them if they weren't important? Ever heard of micro-stutter?
I bought another 16GB mainly because I keep a lot of browser tabs and other junk open so I easily consumed all the 16GB I had when running newer and more demanding games. But 16GB is still the sweet spot for sure
32gb is the sweet spot, 16gb is the minimum that shouldnt really be done since ram is so cheap
cheap my ass. not everyone live in your heaven country@@Definedd
I disagree, this video clearly showed that you don't need more if you are just gaming and a sweet spot is not spending more on something you technically don't need. It is getting full use out of something for the best price possible.
32GB is a luxury, not a necessity at this point @@Definedd
Nope, 32 is the new sweet spot since last year.
Though technically capacity-wise it is closer to 24GB instead of 32GB, but who in the world nowadays bought two different sized RAM sticks aside from those laptop users who happened to have a soldered 8GB memory, leaving only a single SODIMM slot available to be upgraded?
@@hadifelani absolutely agree. 32gig is a must for new PC in 2024. it is not even a discussion. there is barely any 2х8 kits available, 90%+ kits are 2х16.
Note this is tested on a X3D CPU, the impact might be more severe on non X3D Hardware with less L3$ due to more RW Operations to system memory.. It would be interesting to see the benefits of a non X3D and X3D CPU with both RAM configurations....
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Maybe 👍🏻👍🏻
+ Raid ssd?
not correct. It only affects RAM's with different clock speeds. The GB is not relevant for x3d
you know what reduces even more the cpu ram pcie accesses? having more vram on your gpu so there is no need to go there... but you're right that 7600x results 16gb/32gb may differe the same as using less powerful gpu like 7600 8gb /7600xt16gb, because is not the same you need to access ram or vram vs you already have it on the proper buffer or even being cached
16gb is fine for just gaming but considering that 32gb is cheap these days I'd go for it anyway
you're talking about yourself, it's not cheap everywhere.
@@harmez7 it is cheap.
it costs as much as your ass@@hadifelani
Picked up 32 gb 3200mhz CL16 ram on black Friday for 29.99$
@@hadifelani 110 euro for 32 gb.
The test should be run with 5 Chrome tabs open, Discord open, and Spotify playing all in the background
fyi browsers using more ram as it runs longer, so true and agree
I had 32.GB in my PC for years because RAM is so cheap, but i need 32.GB sometimes for video editing.
RAM speed is more relevant. If i don't remember wrong you get up to 20% speed boost in games with DDR 5 vs DDR 4.
When it comes to UE 5 Engine games, SSD Speed matters.
DDR5 do not give any perfomance boost over DDR4, i think DDR5 can be easily skipped till DDR6.
@@iLLgetYourAseIt does. You can find proof of it on TH-cam RAM benchmarks.
"gaming ddr5 vs ddr4".
I agree that it's pointless to get DDR 5 if you have DDR 4.
@@V3ntilatorThis probably because of processor differences and not the ram itself. In any case, it wouldn’t make a difference in this video as he’s using an X3D CPU.
@@noidsuper Yeah, that's true. There is also games that relies more on RAM, and other games that relies more on VRAM.
CPU usage between each game is so varied, because of how the games is made and if it's a open world or not. Different game engines matter too.
My current 16 gb ram usage is 90%+, which i think make my fps not stable. Thats why i am planning to upgraded it to 32gb. Am i correct?
correct
Basically the same
But should u buy 16gb while 32gb getting cheaper? No.
no they're not the same, look at the 1% and 0.1% lows. theyre much lower and sometimes cripplingly low for 16gb, that is what makes your game stutter.
That's the thing, 32GB of RAM is NO LONGER getting cheaper, at least for DDR4. All IC makers like Samsung, Hynix, and Micron have all pulled back on DDR4 IC production, and prices are expected to rise throughout 2024. Some projections state that DDR4 prices could climb by 10% to 15% per quarter, but this depends on demand.
If PC building and computer sales makes a strong rebound this year, you'll see DDR4 prices go up a lot this year.
Not sure about DDR5 because I keep hearing different stories about DDR5 production.
16gb is good for gaming until you open the browser
Over 16gb of memory for gamers, speed and latency are WAY more than quantity!!!
32gb of ultra fast memory with ultra tight timings is gonna smoke a ton of memory with weak/loose timings and weak speed!!!!😱😱😱
This would be more helpful if this test were done on integrated graphics Apu's processors
You've got the most useful comparison channel on the internet. 🙌 Thank you
Nice video, which tool are you using to monitor the utilization ?
Most likely msi afterburner + rivatuner
I have one 16gb ram bar. Will I gain a lot more fps with 32gb because I will use dual Chanel?
No..but if u r doing lots of multitasks on ur laptop at same time then yes.
Я поставил rtx 4060 ti 16 gb и 64 гб оперативки ...все игры идут на ultra без тормозов 😉👍
Not a fair comparison. Run the same games in 1080p and you will find that 1440p is 50% GPU but 1080p utilizes more system ram instead of GPU vram and that is what you are trying to demonstrate. I'm surprised I have to explain that.
The thing people aren’t taking into account is the 1% and 0.1% lows and how much better they are, equalling a smoother experience. For as cheap as 16gb of ram is for most people, it’s a worthwhile upgrade.
2 games showed any difference.
@@sinenomine4540 3 games showed a massive difference, and 1 game showed a massive difference in the 0.1%. So 50% of the games showed a difference. Your point is?
lol you can't be serious dude.@@ESKATEUK
I see, so 32gb reduces stuttering on some games due to the improvements on 1% and 0.1% lows.
Hogwarts Legacy was atrocious on the PC when it comes to stuttering with my 16gb.
People who upgraded to all these high sized rams years ago already were future proofed
3 years ago and before 16gb was not needed now thats normal one day games will even need 64 which is shocking
I have an RTX 4070 even if I do 100 fps the view is completely jerky, the RTX 4070 costs a lot it's not right that I should have these problems, now I'm fed up, I've always been against PC and this gives me confirmation.
40 series was a huge letdown.
1% low , now 32 gb ram must be
I went from 16gb to 64gb from cl18 to cl16 and I won 3 fps, no because of the size but because of the timings
ok now do these tests with chrome, Discord and OBS running in the background
Hi, I'm one of your subscribers who has been following you for 2 years. I wanted to know some information or even if you made a video on 2 processors, an amd 7 5800xSW amd 9 5900x. but you didn't even answer me or give me an explanation, which one is better, thanks for not even having me written you are always great for me but I'm starting to DOUBT
I had 32gb for the last year, and it is worth it, 1% lows better, consistently see more than 16gb utilization, 32gigs helps a lot with multitasking, I don't have to close other programs to play any game. (keep in mind that RAM benchmark made on fresh Windows install with nothing running on the background)
Also 32gig is a new standard. you will have troubles finding 2x8 ddr5 kit, 2х16 is typical for ddr5.
Not fair comparison. You should try 8gb card to correctly compare RAM amount. 3070 for example. And 16gb RAM will be completely destroyed by games.
So. If you have 12gb card or more, it is possible to use 16gb of RAM with some lags (1% and 0,1% fps). If you have 8gb card - you should purchase 32-64 gb of RAM.
If you want to buy a new PC even with 4090 card then you should buy 64gb of RAM with G.Skill 64 GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6800 MHz F5-6800J3445G32GX2-TZ5RK or Corsair 96 GB (2x48GB) DDR5 6600 MHz Vengeance RGB (CMH96GX5M2B6600C32) memory with even less timings.
But 7 days to die can use up to 25gb of ram
with no fast paced action.i dont know if this result matter
Hey man, I’m really confused whether to get one of two different laptops. I will list the specs below and I’d really appreciate it if you can give me your opinion on which I should get:
Zephyrus g14:
14” display.
OLED 3K 120 Hz
Ryzen 9 8945HS
32 GB RAM
GeForce RTX 4070
1 TB SSD
Zephyrus G16:
16” display.
OLED 2.5K 240 Hz
Intel Core Ultra 9
16 GB RAM
GeForce RTX 4070
1 TB SSD
Please keep in mind that the ram in these laptops is soldered in so I don’t have the option to upgrade it later on.
What I really want is the G16. I really want the larger display (since it’ll be the only display I’ll have) and the dark grey color it comes in (unlike the g14 which only comes in a white color). It also has a higher refresh rate, and a better CPU. Everything about it is better…except for the ram.
I’m worried that I’ll face problems with the RAM in the long run since I’m planning on keeping this laptop for atleast 5 years.
I’m getting this for some gaming (mainly games such as COD, GTA, and some others) in addition to school work (which won’t be demanding). I like everything about the G16 more except for obviously the ram. Do you think this difference in ram is worth me choosing the g14 instead?
now with discord and more in the background
For Escape from Tarkov at this state 16gb is not enough. Nor 32gb. It has memory leak issues and is horribly optimized.
OS uses more RAM to itself if you have more RAM installed. I.e. if you have 8 gbs of RAM win10/11 will use 2.3-2.5 GB of RAM, for 16 GB it will use 3.5-4 GB of RAM and for 32 gb it will use 5-6 GB of RAM + background processes can consume more RAM (Nvidia, adobe, telegram etc). Only weird thing happened to Hogwarts Legacy, maybe it's not optimized well or something big and heavy was ran in background while testing Hogwarts Legacy.
So it's enough to have 16 GB of RAM nowadays. Maybe 24 GB of ram in near future (i.e. 16+8) as reserve.
Actually, 16 or 32 GB RAM does not say anything about performance. If the game or app designed for a certain amount of RAM.
Then it just like that. Not going to take more RAM if you had 32 over 16. More RAM to help you multi-task better. Not for the performance in term of loading single game/app at a time
i just upgraded from 32 to 64 i noticed no difference at all i noticed a slight difference from 16 to 32 like in rust and fortnite
Great work putting this together but it looks like your 3080 was maxed out on most of your tests. Wont see an increase of fps on anything, no matter how much ram you have. You are bottlenecked
This test is maybe not 100% correct. Maybe your BIOS settings are wrong. Who knows..
I have a system (RX 5700XT OC, Ryzen 5 3600 @ 4.0Ghz with 16GB DDR4 3200mhz and 2 free slots on my mainboard. Someday i was bored and had money left and decide to just buy 32GB DDR4 RAM with the same speed for 30€. Mostly i play CoD Warzone and Multiplayer and my fps jumped up to ~5 - 10 fps. It's not much but still noticable. Everything feels "smoother".
My Windows boots up and shut down quicker than before.
What screen recording app do u use
Hogwarts Legacy was the reason I upgraded my computer last week. Most games still only need 16GB, but not for much longer.
I went from 16GB to 32GB and a Ryzen 5 1600X to a Ryzen 5 5600X. In Hogwarts Legacy, the framerate went from 4FPS to a smooth 60. That is NOT an exageration.
May I know what GPU are you using right now?
@@louiellywton5086 I've been using a GTX 1660 Ti for the past 5 years.
I haven't upgraded it yet, but I plan to soon.
@@Sabbalab92 that's nice, i have been researching for good gpu this past week because i want to build a new pc. Because my pc right now is kinda outdated with ryzen 5 3500 and rx 580.
Can i play hogwarts legacy with my 16GB?
@@yanishammoumraoui6101 I had to upgrade my Ram to play it, so I would upgrade if you can.
The test is incorrect. The video memory capacity of the 3080 10 GB is no longer enough in some games in 2024 for 2K resolution. Therefore, RAM consumption increases. In this case, it is necessary to use a video card with a large amount of video memory. Or reduce the resolution to Full HD.
16 gb will probably be fine uttil 2027/28 considering the consoles only have 16 shared meaning most games are being developed with 10 or so in mind
16gb already is the absolute minimum, it's not enough at all. Look at the 1% and 0.1% lows of the games on 16gb, that will be stutter you might experience
The real diference is when you gaming and have a browser with 10+ tabs like me 32gb is way more confortable, with 16gb i cant do that with the same smoothness.
The 1% lows were getting hammered with 16GB of RAM
bro you must try these test in games that require more than 16GB of RAM (eg. ark ascended). Can you tell me the meaning of doing this test in games that do not use more than 16GB of RAM?
Shouldve test cities skylines2.. was confused while playing it on my 16gb laptop and suddenly it stutters like crazy, turns out it uses 13gb+ ram and my laptop is busy dumping the ram to my drive. 😂😂
What cooler do you use for the cpu?
Is the amount of RAM better than the frequency? NICE VIDEO
Can we get a 7800X3D vs 5800X3D video?
I just went from a cheap pny 16gb set(2x8) ddr4 2100mhz clocked to 3200mhz with tight timings, to a high end 3600mhz 32gb set(2x16). My pny performance was better, VERY GOOD actually, I will tweak the new stuff tho, it will be fine.
What games are you playing that show such a drastic difference? Cuz it may potentially be the speed the ram influencing your build the most, and not the ram size.
If just for gaming, 16GB is enough, but Chrome, Faceit, screen recording, discord, require more.
Those 1% lows were getting hammered with 16GB of RAM.
Avatar would have been the one to look at. Even with that, nothing.
Tengo rtx 4070 y un i713620h tengo 17 de ram pero voy a comprar 32, solucionará problemas de tartamudeo.
Графика не меняется много лет (не считая этих супер лучей)зато требования растут. Как у них это получается?
Скорее игры становятся все хуже и хуже, а системки растут, все благодаря критикам и индюшной санине по типу палвордов, летал компани, хелдрайв и т.д, разрабы понимают, нахер стараться, если можно лутать бабки на онлайн скотобойня для младенцев, а не заниматься норм играми и их оптимизацией, какие шикарные игры выходили в 2000,эх....
3 year ago 8 gb was enough and 16 gb was recommended now 16 gb enough and 32 gb recommended wtf is wrong devs really doing poor optimisation
Where is MSFS2020
You should've tested Escape from Tarkov, that is a big example of a RAM heavy game.
But other than that, 16 gb is still good enough for 1080p medium/high on most games.
When to test ryzen 8700g vs 8600g ? 8cu vs 12cu.
Is DDR5 performance not comparable to DDR4 with 16 GB? On DDR4 you have crashes and stutters in new games.
Кадров вроде столько же, однако справа картинка плавнее
I always watch something while gaming and 16GB RAM is not enough most of the time.
If you only focus on your game then 16GB should be more than enough.
Why bother with 32 GB when it's easier and cheaper to do the jump to 24 GB?
16GB ddr4 3600 cl18 (or 16gb ddr5 5200) and 16gb vram gpu is the way to get th most bang for your buck, unless PC go to shared memory like game consoles, why to pay 2 or 3 times more on ram for almost not uplift in perfromance? you could make a difference buying better gpu with that money...
should have used a 4090 and tested it in 4k where more RAM is used.
16 - minimum in 2024
2 more years and 24GB + will become a necessity
Please which app do you use for onscreen FPS display
Msi afterburner
Разница в среднем показателе не существенная - на уровне погрешности, а 1 и 0.1% да же не почувствуешь и не увидишь. Честно говоря геймерам пока что нет надобности в памяти ddr5. Игры ещë не понимают частоту выше 4200Mhz, всего пара игр на unreal 5 оптимизированны под ddr5
Developer should optimize there games im not a bank that i need to update my rig every year the last of us part 1 is a example for bad optimization the rpcs3 ps3 version run better.
16 MINIMUM
Refrain from 8gb, it's no longer 2017
Soon 32 will be the new 8gb so I'd future proof it and get 32
what fps cpu gpu counter/metrics are you using????
Msi afterburner
It's enough 16gb RAM for gaming in 2024
Star citizen uses 24gb thats why i had ti upgrade
Is 48gb ram overkill for gaming
this test will be so great to see with some different cpu and gpu combos other than 7800x3d/3080 10gb:
-7800x3d/7500F/7600x + 4060ti 16gb/ 7600xt 16GB, vs 4060ti 8gb/7600 8gb
- 7800x3d + 7900gre/6800xt/6950xt/4080/4070tiSuper16/4080 Super, 5600x/12600k/5700x 4060 ddr4 etc.
what is faster cpu + 16 gb + 16 to 24GB gpu or cpu + 32GB + 8 to 12 GB gpu?
So 16GB minimum for gaming.
R7 7800x3d lowest 65C O_O
More Memory Used = Less Stutter
Conclusion: 2024 is not the year for upgrading your ram into 32gb
Stick with your 16gb and enjoy
no difference outside of 2 badly optimized titles which drop 0.1% low
pretty much every game had lower 1% and 0.1% lows with 16gb ram, 32gb is the way forward
the difference in most games is less than negligible if any @@Definedd
@@sinenomine4540 not at all its anywhere from 10-20% and then like 80% in hogwarts legacy, itll mean a less smooth experience which can be noticed
only 2 titles showed significant difference, so it must be optimization issue.@@Definedd
Omg HWL does matter a lot of ram, more than 20 gb🙄
Smoother Gameplay
Warzone 2 usando 16.9gb de memória ram 🤡
16GB🤝🏻32GB
test 1x32 gb 2x16 and 4x8 gb ram :D
Someone please help i have a 5700x with a 7700xt and 2x8 gb of ddr 4 3600 should i buy another 2x8gb ddr 4 ?just gaming nothing else did you guys feel any diference in games?
Я так понимаю идиоты- ламеры, которые смотрят тесты, вообще нечего не понимают, зачем вы их смотрите вообще, если нечего не понимаете... 0.1% вам зачем в мониторинге, это влияет на дропы фпс и плавность самой игры, везде 32 гб в этом плане впереди, в варзон вообще огромная разница...
Look at .01 frame rate
WTF is happened in Hogwarts Legacy ?
fps ram? No no Cpu Gpu O.C
Hi who can help me build 2700$ pc for warzone and frotnite olease i do t waste money for bad build
i happy that i upgraded to 16 gb rather than 32 gb in my laptop, because difference isn't huge, but in price is quite significant
the difference here was the 1% lows, but for straight gaming 16gb is fine, 32gb is better when doing more than gaming, like video recording and editing, rendering, uploading, running mods etc...
PS5 and XSX have 16GB total memory for system and graphics. So 16GB is still fine for PCs for now. Most games that are also released on console will be fine running within that limit on PC. Until consoles move beyond 16GB, we'll be mostly fine. That said I do have 32GB in my gaming pc 😅 because why not
Have to remember that consoles only run the programs or software needed to operate while a PC may have other programs that you have opened in the background like your browser with over 50 tabs opened, etc.
варзон такая хуйня что пора её не показывать уже
gpu test
better to have 32 in case
32 гb будут полезны не для игр
Lmao did they finally fix the garbage TLOU PC Port
Nice one.... I updated to 32 GB for no reason whatsoever....😅
Mutiple games will need it and need over 16 whats funny u weird
@@cmoneythemanyour mama is weird moneytheman.... obviously you are not so smart to understand what is funny about it....
32gb👍
İ buy for nothing 32gb of ram, spend money for the same performance
💙💛💯✌
16gb is still decent for the majority of current games but upcoming games will definitely require more ram and with the current prices 32gb is pretty much worth it
Dont think so yet.
Based on the first few games 32GB help the 1% lows. I'd say if you have enough money then get 32GB instead of 16GB. If you're on a tight budget then you can save the money or put it where it's immediately useful e.g. faster GPU, bigger screen, or bigger SSD to have space for more games at once.
@@jochenkraus7016 By the moment you really fully need 32 GB of ram we will need a PC upgrade of at least GPU or even CPU, if today it's nota problem with a rtx 4090, why care i n a slower card we probably have? Today adding the 16gb additional cost to your GPU makes your FPS go higher ,average, median, lows, middle, high and the nth fractionth of FPS you randomly choose... going from 8 to 16gb gpu makes a differenece for vram dependant games , now and more i the future for sure, or more if we add quality settings in the setup of our current games...more rome for RT and superresolution to work and increase resolution without losing FPS massively... but going from 16GB to 20 or 24GB or 48 GB for gaming now or tomorrow, is a waste of money... in the future it will be needed, for sure, but now rtx 4090 playing GTA 3 only needs 2 GB GTA 4, hard to use more than 4GB. GTA V, from 2 GB to 4GB is amazing iamge quality evfen on 4K, going upwards of 6GB of vram or more than 8GB almost impossible, 12 to 16gb may be used in PS5 version but 24 Gb even at 16K don't think it being possible without changing game source code and compile new version...
The speed of the ram is more important go look at ddr5 vs ddr4 in games 😅
But it's stupid cuz in current future it's mostly rtx graphics cards and new gen specs that makes ur whole old laptop completely outdated so I recommend to max 16gb for current use.. anyway u have to get a new laptop at some point in near future..so 32gb upgrade for a old specs laptop is stupidity 🤷🏻♂️