The Tragedy of Ocarina of Time’s DYING Guard (Zelda Theory)
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- What happened to the royal guard found in the back alley of Castle Town?
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I want a spin-off called: The Legend of the Guard Who Actually Did Something
That really is my one peeve with many Rpgs. I wish the guards could be something worth noting so the baddies actually felt threatening
Cough cough TP cough cough
Don't forget majoras mask when the guard just let's a thief run out of town and stops Link instead
It would be very short lived no pun intended 😂
This actually fits with another theory. The bored Gate Guard he could of betrayed Hyrule just for a little fun and his reward for helping Ganondorf was to be transformed into the poe collector.
This also adds another twist. The dying guard was probably the one who opened the gate for Impa and Zelda. He then was attacked by the bored guard and was mortally wounded for helping Zelda.
That actually makes a lot of sense....
Chad guard Headcanon
Wait, so I was wrong? It was not a theory about the bottles behind the soldier? Dang...
I thought he drank too much beer, so he was a bit dizzy when you talked to him. Then he gets K.O... Common stuff
I mean... it's possible...
I thought it was medicine
@@scawydemon You're so innocent
Once again, excellent theory, NBC!
Also, if you haven't already, I ask that everyone would pay their respects to the fallen soldier
R.I.P. Soldier of Hyrule Castle
1998-1998 and 2011-2011
R.I.P. "The Soldier who actually did something", he will hopefully be put to rest in a better place besides the back of an alley way.
To this day I still don’t know why Majora’s Mask is filled with Noodles.
That are tenticals. Majoras Mask use this to ,,stick" to a persons head to gain controll over it. There is a pretty cool Majorask Mask animation wit the Horror kid where you can see it very well.
@@gamerofthetime Noodles!
Nobody like this coment, it's at the magical number
GameroftheTime
BRUH YOU RUINED THE JOKE I KNOW THEY’RE TENTACLES
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Too late rip
I believe Shiru the soldier is the back alley soldier from OoT. Link watched him die, but in Majora's mask, he gets "a second chance" to redo things; he can save him/bring him back to life with a red or blue potion instead of helplessly watching.
Note he laments "why does no one see me? No matter how much I wave my arms and call out, why do they not notice me? Is it because I'm plain as a stone...?"
That latter could be dark humor at the fact all the hylian soldiers look identical, though.
But the fact you cannot see him unless you use the lens of truth is telling: he was perhaps dead already when you find him, and no one noticed or heard his "calls" because he didn't know he had died. He could've temporarily jolted back to life just long enough to pass on the message he was supposed to tell link.
R.I.P Guard, May the goddess smile upon him
Legend says his family still misses him today.. even if it was never confirmed he had one :P
lord of Ink games that’s possibly the best cliffhanger I can think of because it’s suspenseful and scary to think about.
A part of me thinks hes links father maybe he faught in the war years ago and went to find his wife and child and when he found his wife dead he decided that it was safer to leave his child there then to bring him back cause the line he says about wanting to meet you seemed sus to me
the knight is links older brother lunk
Crystal Wolf I was thinking that he might have been who the next Link in the timeline (no matter which of the three it was) is descended from
Link: *breathes*
Navi: "look out!!"
If Ganondorf's "men" were royal guards that betrayed the king it would explain why nobody in town noticed much. They just saw guards and thought nothing of it.
This makes a lot of sense, and fits nicely with the existing lore. Ganondorf could have corrupted the guards by telling them of the triforce and its power to grant wishes, and once he, and his followers got to the sacred realm, Ganondorf killed them all and claimed the triforce for himself.
Maybe Ganondorf's men escaped through a secret passage in the alley where the dying guard is found. He could have chased them there to try and stop them and he couldn't find/open the secret way.
A suggestion: The "men" might well have been strictly from the Gerudo tribe, but Ganondorf convinced them to go into battle disguised when they enacted the siege. The Gerudo have a fearsome reputation, to be sure...
...but how much more demoralizing would it be for the Hylian soldiers if they believed they'd been attacked either by their own people (thus making them fearful that anyone they met might be a traitor, which would aid in their defeat), or else by some mysterious outside force? Ganondorf is clever enough to try a tactic like that (and his foster mothers are wily enough to come up with it, if he didn't). It's easier to defeat a foe who has been thoroughly cowed into fearing even their best friends.
Divide and conquer, to put it more briefly. If Twinrova could brainwash Nabooru into an Iron Knuckle's armor to fight Link, then it would be simple enough to convince the entire tribe to crossdress in order to psychologically defeat the Hylians before they'd even engaged them in battle.
I always thought it was kinda a given that it was an inside job. Why would the guards all be totally chill when their princess was missing otherwise?
I actually like the idea that ganon isn't king because of a legitimate claim to power (either by birthright or by being somehow granted the power), but rather because he stole the kingdom somehow. Remember, one of his titles is gerudo king of thieves. His power comes from nabooru's brainwashing not power the gerudo granted him.
Wow, Ganondorf sure does like to take over Hyrule castle doesn't he. I bet you could make a whole video just on that topic!
Dark castle Hyrule is wonderful in Occarina, but people don't pay much attention to what Vaati did to it in the minnish cap.
Hyrule castle is a major target for villains, like the wizard Aganim in LTTP. And wow did it look freaky in breath of the wild!
That castle ! Everyone wants that building, but all it is is stone really. Could it be that its the symbol of what it means is so important to these villains, or does the geographical location have some sort of secret??
It's in the center of the Kingdom, a good strategic military position.
When someone takes the capital (a.k.a. Hyrule Castle), usually the whole country gives up. That's how most of the wars IRL worked.
Totally agree with you, and it made for some super cool dungeons in zelda. Like Twilight Princess.
I guess the best way to rub stuff in Hyrules face is for Ganon to sit his backside on the throne after killing the king, its totally usurper style. I just wondered if there was any lore attached to that spot of ground as well.
@@tisthecat which is exactly what dumbass trump tried to do with the insurrection 💯
When I first got my 3ds, OoT was one of the games I picked up after years hearing about online, so I already knew about the soldier and knew I had to find him.
It was a sad experience. He left such a deep impression on those that first met him on the 64 that they went onto share his existence, and when it came out on the 3ds, more people went to go find him.
No one deserves to die alone, and we all made sure he didn't.
Talk about an un sung hero.
Based on how many Hyrule Captains betray you, constantly, in Hyrule Warriors, they don't have a very high shown loyalty.
What if Ganondorf's men were actually members of the shieka tribe that switched sides after the civil war at kakariko village?
proto yiga?
I was thinking that, the fact that Impa says she´s the last one of the tribe not knowing the "yiga" (let´s call them like that) are the soldiers who are helping Ganondorf.
That is a depressing tombstone.
RIP Thomas: the one guard who actually did his job.
Well I believe Ganondorf knew from the very beginning what Zelda and link were up to and chasing zelda and capturing hyrule was to pressure them to open the door of time, which is why he doesn't kill link then and there even though he isn't above killing children, this is why he is there immediately after link opens up the sacred realm it is completely possible Ganondorf planted that guard to push him into opening the door. Never forget Ganondorf is as cunning as he is ruthless.
This is a really good theory. I would even go one step further and say that the uprising in the castle was still gone on when Link arrives.
It could very well be that the King was in the middle of a battle when Zelda and Impa fled, and Ganondorf chose between continuing the battle with the King or going after Impa as shrew she Zelda fled with the only key to the Sacred Realm.
The dying soldier always creeped me out a bit. One of the details that I loved finding in the game.
I've always wanted to know what that man meant
Finally an OOT episode
This has been bothering me since that SwankyBox video. I'm glad you made a follow-up. The story you describe makes a lot of sense!
1. When it comes to soldiers in games and movies, "men" is almost always used as a group of male soldiers. Other words are usually used when the group is female like "my group/my people/us/we" or "my ladies". There being women in the group means nothing, they would still be called "men" and if they were specifically Gerudo, they would've been identified extremely quickly.
2. Nabooru leads the Gerudo and her rebelling against Ganondorf while the Gerudo still respect and follow her imply that they all turn against him. In fact, i'm almost 100% something about this is mentioned in the game.
I feel like this video of yours is underrated, because this theory is one of my favorite.
Great work, Will!
Only one gripe:
Koume (Koo•meh)
Kotake (Koh•tah•keh)
Honestly tho, I think everyone else pronounces them as Koh•meh and Koh•take these days
@@Twilit_Gamer but that isn't correct. They're based on Japanese names, which are syllabic in nature. Take the name of the shiitake mushroom-it's pronounced "shee•tah•keh," not "shee•take."
I know. I'm just saying that no one pronounces anything correctly anymore. Especially not me
Objection! I prefer the correct pronounciation as well. So no, there are others that use it as well.
@@turpinator I meant MOST people don't. At least, not my generation.
Great video dude! Despite the topic already being talked about, you gave it a fresh new take! Very fun and viable theory!
Haha the subtle swipe at "some people" haha.
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Yeah that’s when I stopped watching. “Neutral he” not actually being gender neutral’s actually a pretty serious problem despite Singular They existing for literal centuries, and “forces” could’v also been used had the translators cared at the time, depending on the original Japanese wording.
And calling out another creator on something that’s a sensitive topic? Completely inappropriate. Glad I never subscribed, won’t be back when NBC’s videos are in my recommends again.
Anonymous Fellow you must be really fun at parties.
P3NUTBUT3R
Prolly as much fun as you, especially if the best insult you’ve got is something that stale
@@anonymousfellow8879 you have toxic masculinity for sure
Anonymous Fellow says the guy who can’t take a joke that happens to clash with their personal opinions.
Yes i needed something great to watch! :D
Same
While I don't doubt that Ganondorf had inside men in the Castle Guard, be they brainwashed or bribed. That said, I think Zelda's escape was a secret on Impa's part. There would be a few guards that would have known secret passages and back alleys to help the two escape, but of course there would be casualties along the way. For all we know, there's others within the castle walls also dead as Dorf pursued them.
3:43 I love this addition. The whole video is great and I'm totally with you, but this part made me S-M-I-L-E.
I thought of it when making the script and just had to include it 🤣
@@NintendoBlackCrisis 🤗
Great content NBC!! never fails to disappoint! So happy i found your channel
what if he was ganondorf sending link to the temple of time to open the way to the sacred realm?
*rolls eyes*
*grabs eyes and runs away*
Damn low-key made me shed a tears
Thank you this is the Type of Video i was hoping to find about this topic! Nice job!
This guard has the be the perfect example of an unsung hero. 😢
Wow! What an amazing video, nicely done!
Ocarina of Time was also my first Zelda game to be defeated! You're amazing as always! If you're looking for dark Zelda theories, how about the origins of that disgusting and creepy miniboss grabby guy in the Shadow Temple (i don't remember its name.) Seriously, I am 22 years old and that thing scares the crap out of me.
The monks in botw dissolve into a green smoke after you complete a shrine. The green is the same color as the supposing zonal magic potentially sealing ganondorf
He may not be NCO or CO, but what a legend. He deserves the Medal of Honor.
This is awesome NBC! I always wondered about the guard who dies. this is a great theory.
I love, love, loooooveeee zelda theories for this reason, making me see things in a different perspective!
Wow this is definitely a mind blowing theory and it totally makes sense, awesome analysis bro!💯💯💪🏾🔥
It's cool to think about the epic battle the guard had defending the princess.
I’m convinced that the guard is who the next Link descended from
Great theory as always
great theory as always
You actually have a pretty lit upload schedule Will! Miss ya man.
Thanks man!
I never knew that there are guard who stop you from entering the castle after Ganon invades the town because I almost always leg it straight to the Temple of Time to grab the Master Sword.
I've played this game for years, and yet I remember absolutely none of this conversation with the guard. The most I remember is that he tries to say something, and dies before he can finish. Seeing the full dialogue is amazing and I'm really happy that there is this much evidence for a secret operation within the knights of Hyrule. Also, that Ganon killed the king! I don't remember that part either!
oml 4 people post within an hour
I'm binging all these just as fast
Do you have any theories about the Poe Collector from OOT in terms of identity and why they collected Poe souls? When I played it they were always a character that intrigued me
I have a theory on the Poe Collector.
SO if you go to where the Poe Collector is as child Link there will be a soldier. If you you talk to this soldier at night he will talk about Poes he says that studying Poes are a hobby of his. I believe that this soldier is the Poe Collector.
@@lsmith6046 Oh, I know what soldier you're talking about. That's a good theory. I've always thought the Poe Collector was a female though cuz it kinda looks like they're wearing a tattered dress with the purple Hyrule banner over it, similar to adult Zelda's dress.
I figured about the guard. but hearing your theory gives more info! =)
what if in botw 2 demise's spirit invades Ganondorf's body because the master sword was damaged in botw and in ss demise's soul is sealed in the master sword meaning that you'd have to either damage or break the master sword to free it
Amazing theory !
That's what I always thought, that some of the knights betrayed their king.
This one was quite a nice comeback of a sad end, beautifull either way
What if the guards weren't brainwashed or manipualted, but its a hydra in shield situation where undercover followers of ganondorf have been hyrule guards for a while
PLEASE MAKE A THEORY ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HERO OF TIME AFTER MAJORA’S MASK!
Ryan hell no there are thousands of theories on youtube 🥴
But we want to hear what NBC has to say about it
Didn't he become a knight captain according to Twilight Princess?
Bruh he died and became the hero of shade
rip ...thank you gard
I like to think that the reason there were no other men chasing after Zelda is because that one guard solo'd them all to give Zelda time to escape.
It makes sense that "men" in this context may not exclusively refer to a group of males. The word is being used by a soldier in a fantasy setting written in the 90s, so "men" being gender-neutral wouldn't be too surprising (if that is in fact what the writer intended). Either way, I like the implications of the royal guard being involved in the takeover.
If I saw "men" or "man" being used as gender-neutral in a news article or social media post TODAY, I would bet on it being the awkward flub of a clueless/stubborn boomer. The word "guys" isn't quite at that level right now (plenty of people, including young women, say it innocently enough without being secretly sexist), but it does subtly suggest that male words are default and can therefore apply to anyone, while female words cannot. I think it's worth swapping out for truly gender-neutral terms, especially since it costs us nothing. Have a good day, y'all.
Yeah, I totally agree!
Honestly, I think in general saying "guys" or "dude" as a gender neutral thing isn't necessarily a problem, it's only when someone specifically asks not to be called that, especially if they're trans or nonbinary or something along those lines, that you shouldn't say it (when referring to them specifically, that is). It's like, don't be a douchebag, but we're not saying you can never ever say "guys" ever, or never use it as a gender-neutral thing. Most people don't care, and plenty of women and trans/gnc people alike use it.
Which is why I don't particularly appreciate this sort of tone of "man, PC culture, am I right? Look at this person saying 'maybe we should stop using male-centric language, especially to describe women and trans/gnc people', what an idiot" in the video. Whether that particular video is being overboard or not, that sort of tone and the pride at "taking a swipe at THOSE PEOPLE" in the comments is... kind of sketch.
But hey, it's like, one minute of :/ so it's not like I'm unsubscribing yet lol
I just hope it isn't a recurring issue...
I think there was a slide that showed up while they were explaining botw and they comment on it but the slide showed ganondorf on a floating mountain and in the trailer for botw2 the castle starts going up!
The Japanese version says that: « He... He’s not breathing anymore »
E for Everyone, folks!
Eh, saying "he's not moving anymore" is still pretty obvious to me.
Using men in this context can mean troops
I always wondered about him...glad to hear there is/was someone worth trusting in the background. my fav easter egg has to be the tri-force in the moon. cant remember if it's in 64, but i know it's in the 3ds' ver LOZ:Oot 3d.
The only guard who attempted to put up a fight but perished in the process.
I have a theory: some people say that Majora’s Mask could possibly be a part of links afterlife. Either way I think this guard is who you get to save in MM with the red potion by stone tower.
He was reborn as Fire Emblem Three Houses' Gatekeeper.
This is true and you can't convince me otherwise.
Omg I luv his endcard
Did anyone else notice that the guard helmets in OoT look like they were the inspiration for the soldier's helm in BotW? Same shape, same red plume, they both have ornate details on the brow, I mean that can't be a coincidence, right?
You mean that soldiers helmet in Zelda have inspired Soldiers helmet in Zelda ? Deep...
In a sea of originally designed armor choices, they chose to copy only a few designs found elsewhere in the series. I think it's cool that there's a tiny bit of continuity that most people won't care about.
@@Benchapicho Well. Rephrased like that, I agree
Nice video
idk if this is also in the N64 version but in the 3DS version after you get the ocarina of time and re enter hyrule castle town the dialog of the npc's changes, some of them are indeed still blissfully unaware of whats going on but most either say they have a feeling something really bad is going to happen or they say they heard rumors that something went down at the castle and one even says they saw impa and zelda being chased out of the town by a gerudo on a black horse. the guards in the castle twn and in kakariko village on the other hand will say they heard something went down in the castle and wish they could go check but arent allowed to leave so no, at least in the 3DS version they are not all blissfully unaware of what is going on
Nope, not exclusive to the 3DS. The N64 version had them saying stuff about the incident; one of them even said they don't see a lot of gerudos around the area, though given that the soldier said "men" it would imply that he was explicitly referring to just Ganondorf and nobody else.
My very first Zelda, my very first video game, full stop, was The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening on the original brick Game Boy. I was 9, and I was forever hooked.
I just watched SwankyZone's video before this one, were he kept saying you must die
So immediately I had a few ideas just from the dialogue: the guard could have been an undercover sheikah that was working with impa, the guard could have been connected to Links mother in some way; father of Link, a friend of hers, or even just received some kind of divine message that he followed through with and investigated ganondorf on his own. There's also the possibility that they were just Zelda's favorite royal guard member so they were privy to info like her prophetic dreams. They could also be a woman (possibly a hylian informant that communicated with the gerudo, she was the only soldier fit for the job due to being a woman) since the armor covers most physical features, its hard to actually determine anything by appearance. I think the guard definitely communicated with some important character at some point, leading to their actions, and then death. However, the possibilities are numerous. A very tasty tidbit nonetheless
Makes senses
FINALLY!
Ahhh interesting...as for easter eggs, I found an interesting one in BotW. After you tame Medoh, if you see Teba in the Flight Range before fully cleansing Medoh, he talks about his injury and says "Dammit!" I didn't think they'd put that in a game rated E10
Great video! It's been a long time since I've played Ocarina of Time but do you think that "Ganandorf's men" could have been the guards seen at 6:53? Do we ever see them outside of this scene? Seems to me all the other Hyrule guards resemble the dying one but we don't see the more elaborate ones anywhere else. I could be wrong though, again it's been a while.
I think those guards at 6:53 are the king’s personal bodyguards and that it’s because they have this high rank that their armour looks sturdier and fancier than those of the regular guard. Them being the king’s personal bodyguard also makes them an important possible pawn to ganondorf because if he could get them to his side he could use them to gather information so I think your theory might b correct
I knew I saw this covered somewhere. I thought maybe you did but TH-cam copyrighted something in it so this was a reupload 😂
This is the creepiest video topic ever. great theory
5:01 It's pronounced "Koh-oo-may"* and "Koh-tah-kay"*. They're named for a Japanese pickled plum and a Japanese mushroom.
*Correction: Koh-oo-meh and Koh-tah-keh. My mistake.
Its not... may... it's meh. So Kou-meh and Kota-keh. If it was "may" it would be spelled Koumei and Kotakei
@@jaehaalexander1172 Thanks for the correction
3:43-3:46 *OOOHH!* I know *EXACTLY* who NBC's referring to!
I've seen commentaries on that video!
3:44 That lowkey shade though lol. This video was really good. I always assumed something we didn't get to see happened to him and this explains it perfectly.
Thank you for covering the forgotten characters of the series
It would be great to see videos about Link Between Worlds
I think in zelda breath of the wild 2 there might be a city of tiny people as Nintendo was planning to do it in breath of wild but due to a problem they cancel it
Nbl i actualy love your theorys about botw and love that one about the hero about 10,000 years ago was the hand holding ganon and that he was a member of the zonai.Really great and is amazing,i dearly support this and if you read this pls give a heart :)
And here I thought majora's mask was the darkest game I played but after learning this, idk...
:) I was just looking for something interesting to watch!
This doesn't really have to do with the video but while watching I had an idea that would be cool. What if there was a series, either movies or a TV show, made of OOT. Each installment would be each temple (or however much time would allot). Could be kind of like harry potter, or even stranger things (since the episodes are pretty long) and it could include the dying guard. Idk, just a thought 🤔
*sniff*
I'm not crying...
Theory Idea,
What happened to crenel hills in the legend of Zelda: Breath of the wild
This place is located at the Namika Ozz Shrine in NW hyrule field.
Btw I love your theory’s and other videos and keep up the great content.
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The true hero of Ocarina of Time was never Link...
It was the one guard who actually did his job.
Or in the case of Breath of the Wild, all the guards who did their jobs (and coincidentally also died).
There's more reinforcement to the theory that there was a battle. If you go to Ganon's Castle in OOT 3D, and you go to a cliffside by the castle, there is a guard helmet laying beside a monster skull with a spear in it's eye.