Everyone keeps pointing out how my tshirt is dirty lol I was hiking in the park for my workout like immediately before recording this video, I didn't think it would be that noticeable 😅
@@Ger3214 First of all, no they don't. That is blatantly untrue. Second of all, the key is to cut ties only after Tencent buys out 50% or more of a company. If they're still under that 50% ownership threshold, and do not have a majority stake, then that company is still fine.
@@WackyModder84people really dying on strange hills… if the games good then play it. No type of boycotting people do are going to make any difference as the large majority don’t give a shit as long as the game is good.
I could not agree more. BHD is what got me into FPS games, then BF2. Then COD2. All of these franchises have fallen off, DF: Xtreme was garbo compared to BHD/TS imho regardless... We lost Delta Force, Battlefield, CoD, all Tom Clancy and now DF again lmfao
@@ping-bi3dm were you gaming in the 90"s ? my guess is no. Novalogic was the shit back in the day, they are the original creator of the delta force series, and when comparing to the new delta force.........it's shit because it's all copycat.
It's possible if you have a modified aftermarket safety lever with a notch cut out to hold the bolt back. Krebs makes one: "Krebs Custom Mk VI Enhanced Safety". Common mod on AKs.
Yeah it looks cursed as hell though multiple people in comments have said that it's possible to modify the AK to be able to do that and if that's true this is actually cool as hell as it's very unusual looking reload.
It isn't cursed at all. I went to grab my AK to test this out. Pull the bolt carrier as seen in the animation and your right hand with your index flick it to safe. Now that its locked in place reload like normal and once you are done you can remove it from safe. I don't see how this is cursed maybe because in video games no one has done that animation to reload an ak.
In the Delta Force devlog, the Devs said they'll change the animations before they release the final game so I assume the animations are placeholders for the time being seeing there's original animations to some of the weapons in there Also the game is Free To Play
If they don’t have permission to use those assets as placeholders, that’s still a huge issue. They put out a playable demo for influencers and others to create video promotional material from, which is how the weapon animation footage got out in the first place. If they don’t own the rights to those assets, it puts every content creator who has created content about the game up to this point at risk… not just them. Did you not see all the TH-cam channels that got a DMCA for sharing that prototype Batman game footage? Same issue.
@@Bluedrake42 Well, that's going to be on them. Seems like they're rushing on putting out a playable demo for testing. I remember back in the day when the OG MW2 2009 came out there's also a korean game called Battle Territory Battery aka Arctic Combat which is inspired by MW2 at the time and its an MMO. It got shut down because of similar comparisons even the game doesn't contain any assets from MW2. Game came with their own animations, weapons, maps, etc.
@@Bluedrake42 I mean, look at Medal Of Honor Warfighter and Battlefield 3. They share the same animation style for weapons and some of Warfighter's reloads are straight up ripped off from Battlefield 3 and nobody seemed to complain
@@totalguardian1436 That’s not the same thing. Those are two games both owned by EA. EA can absolutely reuse their own assets if they want. That isn’t the same thing as another studio using EA assets in a game owned by a completely separate studio without their permission.
Free to Play? nah its OHD that truely FTP, Its Free-Mium Free to play With Premium Microtransaction, PEOPE SHOULD STOP SAID FREE TO PLAY to MIcrotransaction PLAGUED GAME
A game free to play on every console, pc and phones Everybody: I don't like it Ex battlefield devs working here, COD devs working here I don't like tencent, ea, Microsoft, saber interactive, epic, etc But hey I'm playing video games 😂😂😂😂
@@imSkrap yeah right, good for you knowing that, i apologieze for my mistake. I don't know anyone who played that game. Or didn't even know it was famous like PubG and Fortnite.
One is being made with Unreal engine(Delta Force) and the other is using it's own engine, no way they can share files. Any decent animator will be able to replicate COD's weapon animation in any modern software like blender or maya.
Delta Force is the greatest FPS franchise ever made. Was well ahead of the game. I still play DF2 and DFBHD. This new one doesn't look like DF. It's not Novalogic anymore.
@@micholous Yeah man I was holding out hope, but this just shows me it's a reskin of COD where they didn't even try to change animations. I'm good on all that, I'll wait for the DF mods on OHD
Tencent own Timi. Time make Delta Force and CODM, its a F2P mobile game and its not like Activi$ion has scummy practices. A lot of CODM guns and animations are re-skinned
I don't care if it's copy or what... If the gameplay is better than battlefield, cod etc I'm happy. Because that's the point I'm playing the game. Not because it has 99% similar animation. Who could give F about that... The whole video is just about that... Like c'mon. I'm not defending Delta I'm pretty new into knowing this game but if this is a very critical thing I find it silly. If the copy is legal then it's legal or else send the video to cod and see what they say.. I mean u guys are like "omg" so do something good, send it to Activision and maybe they slam the hammer, but it wouldn't surprise me if the creator of all animation had the rights or like there was no copyright thing for the animation. I'm more for the gameplay not animation so.
I had a feeling they were stealing some animations and models just of the trailer when I saw it for the first time but I was willing to write it off as a place holder but still they have too many animations and models that are the exact same to CoD to write off.
Atleast the AK reload from that new delta force game are something i havent seen before Most of the rest are MW-ish iwhich is undeniably similar to Hyper's modern warfare animation
Probably just a placeholder animation, Due to the game still being new, and that theres animations that are different than COD. Probably going to be changed soon enough or changed if Activision tells them otherwise.
They had access to the data for the development of Call of Duty Mobile and used the animations. It is questionable how this is to be seen legally. Especially as Battlefield was also clearly copied.
if it is the same team and everything is legal, then i'd say no problem, infinity ward been doing that since mw4 to any CoD before 2019 MW (that include treyarch CoD)
I judged them based off of speed and particular differences. Some you are in the right point out, others were just outright different. IF it's just you giving credit where it's due, I respect that. I just wish you pointed out via speaking it and/or annotating it that some animations in particular are different (if I missed the part where you DID point that out, my b :P). OTHERWISE... *sigh* Edit: Do you think that because they have ties that some of the animations are deliberate "easter eggs"? Like any equation both simple and/or complicated can get the same number if not a different one.
So its going to feel like cod shooting mechanics and movement gameplay on a battlefield style map with vehicles. Not nessercerely a bad thing in that aspect. Assuming it will be smooth to play with good hit reg ect. I just worry about everything else with the game.
I don't mind any reused assets as long as the game is good. But it's important that they are being used legally and not stolen. If these assets are legal then I think it's perfectly fine.
I have a question. Both Games are Military shooter, dosn't the US Military teach it's soldiers how to reload efficient? If yes, why should it look totaly different and this two games? (and so far i remember, CoD Modern Warfare got Praised for it's realistic animations.)
I am Chinese. I am glad that our western friends can finally witness how disgusting Tecent is. You think EA and ubi are bad? Well You won’t think long😂
I think the animation look similar but i thik the dev has access to cod mobile animation wich i can tell wich one are from gun like the sniperrifle have the codm hdr reload but you know as a plublisher this big they might contact activiton to use the animation but what did i expect it chaina company
I assume the devs have some sort of licensing agreement with Activision since they made cod mobile and haven't been sued by Activision yet. I know they're based in china, but if this was IP theft Activision would have cut ties by now and pursued some form of legal action.
At least here in germany it is not unusual that you have a contract which includes the clasue, that all results of work you do for a company belongs to the company. So if you develop these animations whan working for a game dev company, these animations belong to the company, not you as a private person. Don't know how this is in US law though
Here's a note for those who aren't familiar with Tencent's studios. They make great looking titles without the optimization problems like from games made by western studios. Expect DF to run better on a wider range of devices. What's the catch? *Your personal data... all of it.*
Anything you outsorce is still property by contrat to the company that is contracting. In this case CoD has the property of anything they produce for them and unless by contract they can use it, which is very extrange, it is illegal to use it even though you made it.
I've worked for various games as outsorcing and I can't take things that I did on one game and put it on an other game. I can use the same workflow but nothing else
I saw gameplay and immediately made the connection. I knew that they had ripped assets from MWII/COD Mobile and it seemed obvious. So many people being surprised or ambivalent to this are part of the problem. As much as you may dislike Activision or IW, you can’t steal someone’s or a company’s intellectual property.
Not that it makes it "okay" but they might just be using the animations for marketing and the game will release with completely different anims entirely.
Yeah exactly the same is kind of a bit too close for my liking but it's always iffy defining legality for derivative work with textures/models/animations and audio. I mean in most cases changing like 10% of the product is good enough for the courts so I'd have to wonder why anyone wouldn't at least change a few of the keyframes and playrate on a motion capped animation -unless you're in China then simply stealing it and telling everyone you made it is just business as usual.
Fyi TiMi is a Korean studio and is also known of implementing Desktop games into mobile, most popular for: PUBG Mobile and CoD Mobile. However they’re really bad at maintaining their games. (Not hates btw, just an info)
It’s almost likely the most greedy company in recent gaming history invested a ton of money into cod 2019 and basically reused everything to milk that investment back
I came right from the video mentioned, and someone commented that apparently due to the animations being ported for COD: Mobile, they have the rights to use them? Stupid, whether that's the case or not..
I ain't complaining tbh, so long as it's not theft. The person / team who made / make the COD weapon animations deserve to be pulled out of the call of duty mines. Rip Raven.
There is no way people noticed this now? you guys are just looking at the animations? the moment the trailer came out I realized they were using the same engine. just by looking at it how did no one notice this?
not surprised. studios owned by Tencent have a tendency to... "borrow" assets from their AAA contractors. i can confidently say they've been pulling these kinds of stunts for at least 5 years now, and afaik, nothing's ever been done about it.
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 YES! I used to do COD mobile content and yes the animations ARE from MWII or MW19 and also some new weapons are from BO Cold War
I think the animations are good, so i dont really mind it. Feels cheap, but i bet they save both time and money porting the CoD animations over. And Tencent is known for semi aggressive monetization, so making money is very much in their interest.
Also something no one is touching on, is that not just the reload animations are ripped from cod, almost all animations from movement, sprint animations, some weapon shot sounds are the same and ripped from cod and you can easily identify them such as the sprint animation that is 100% just a copy from mwll
@@Bluedrake42 well its very obvious from the gameplay they posted, it was about there extraction mode i guess with some digging you will surely find one, and if you played something like cod mwll or lll you will identify them easily
agreed. there is SO much stuff similar. like it looks like cod from animation perspective. even some models look very similar, almost identical. but that latter part isnt that crazy or big issue
@@Bluedrake42 you can look at exxotik gaming for the source he used to make his video on about this game and look at the footage there Its mainly the extraction mode the battlefield stuff was not shown much of at all which leaves me very skeptical
whos to say activision made the animations ? i mean weapon animations are pretty basic and it wouldnt be surprising if lots of game developers and mod developers use the same source for weapon animations to save time on game development
The infinity ward animation team did and they are under Activision.............. they literally key-framed the animation and you can clearly see it from one of the behind the scenes video of modern warfare 2019 Just because it's the same weapon doesn't mean they should have the exact 1:1 hand movements and gun placements........... if you look at other games like counter strike, rainbow six siege, battlefield, far cry, call of duty, etc. they will have the same weapon but each animation is unique from each other Just search up comparisons from these games and you will see a difference between the reload animations
Current day China doing what it does best. I was turned off by the moment first gameplay was revealed. It's not a Delta Force game and should not be branded as such.
Solution: Make a Delta Force 2 game with the same classic multiplayer style gameplays (King of The Hill, Team King of the Hill, Search & destroy, Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch and Cooperative!). With Battlefield 3 style maps, infantry, vehicles, jets and boats. Do NOT make another futuristic shooter like Battlefield 2042! Make it present day!
Maybe its just place holders remember its legal to port cod anims as long as the project doesnt make money but when the game is finished there will be new anims
i really hope that this game turns out good. im tired of how Cod and BF are handled and would love to see this game take the best of both BF and Cod plus get rid of the bad modern stuff like crazy skins etc. as to the the animations. Im honestly glad they are like this because as shit as the modern Cods can be these days the animations are the best around. So if we can get a Military Shooter with the best of battlefields modes and call of dutys animations id be happy to have such a game to play again 😄
But can a dev show proof, they made it? It's not ok to steal work that was bought by another studio, even if you made it. Even if the studio is an evil POS. If an artist makes and ad for pepsi, he can't turn around and sell that same ad to coke.
My guy you obviously don't understand the very obvious difference between just a reload style and the actual animation. These are not just same "reloading styles" but legitimately identical animations down to the every single keyframe...
@@shahadalwttar1386 Tencent involvement = shitty game. I hate microtransactions, P2W/Predatory Grinding, and gambling. Also this game is nothing like the original games which I have played.
i thought he was gonna talk about the fact the game is gonna be on mobile as well. because alot people hear mobile game and decide to hate even though mobile games have been getting alot better.
I honestly don't have a problem with this at all even if it they are the same assets.. However i can understand where people are coming from. I don't know how much more innovated you can get when it comes down to reload animations or if reload animations even matter a whole lot when you consider the game as a whole. Is it cutting corners to use already made assets? Sure it is, but is it a bad thing? I don't think so because any game that is being made on unreal 5 is probably using already made assets in one form or another. The reload animations look amazing and i just don't know what developers could do to improve on reload animations at this point without going crazy and making them unrealistic.
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Everyone keeps pointing out how my tshirt is dirty lol I was hiking in the park for my workout like immediately before recording this video, I didn't think it would be that noticeable 😅
Hiking in the park or rolling around in the park?? That's what beds are for... Lol...
@@jameshorn7830 I would run and then do pushups lol so... yes.
Problems of using good quality cameras
I'm a simple man...I see Tencent, and I put my wallet back in my pocket.
the game is free bro💀💀
@@barabek3175 Oh, they'll find ways to extract cash from players regardless.
Just say no to mobile trash.
Ten cent has the hands on everything, so you not buying any game? Lol
@@Ger3214
First of all, no they don't. That is blatantly untrue.
Second of all, the key is to cut ties only after Tencent buys out 50% or more of a company.
If they're still under that 50% ownership threshold, and do not have a majority stake, then that company is still fine.
@@WackyModder84people really dying on strange hills… if the games good then play it. No type of boycotting people do are going to make any difference as the large majority don’t give a shit as long as the game is good.
Ok i saw the game play and it was bf2042 with mw2019 animation like the movement and hud look like bf2042 and animation look like mw2019
ngl i thought everybody noticed the 1:1 animations but were fine w it, honestly the game doesnt look bad so i didnt mind it either
There's only a few ways to reload a gun.
This having Delta Force in the title is as bad as Seige calling itself Rainbow 6
I could not agree more. BHD is what got me into FPS games, then BF2. Then COD2. All of these franchises have fallen off, DF: Xtreme was garbo compared to BHD/TS imho regardless... We lost Delta Force, Battlefield, CoD, all Tom Clancy and now DF again lmfao
Siege shitting all over R6's legacy makes me almost as mad as Apex Legends shitting all over Titanfall's legacy
there isnt even john clark in siege. HE'S LITERALLY "6" BRO AND DOMINGO CHAVEZ TOOO
I dont get it
@@ping-bi3dm were you gaming in the 90"s ? my guess is no. Novalogic was the shit back in the day, they are the original creator of the delta force series, and when comparing to the new delta force.........it's shit because it's all copycat.
Imagine the plot twist if this is an asset BOTH games used for free
na that would be insane 💀
That would be crazy, but I know who the animator is and it Def wasn't lmao.
The animator's YT channel is Hyper
He also worked on Apex Legends and Titanfall animations
@@AlwaysSomethingHorrible
I mean I doubt it. Never saw those before mw19
No, the animations are created in house at Infinity Ward and SHG, Hyper has a reel of the animations he worked on for MW19
2:55 Why is no one talking about how cursed this is
It's possible if you have a modified aftermarket safety lever with a notch cut out to hold the bolt back. Krebs makes one: "Krebs Custom Mk VI Enhanced Safety". Common mod on AKs.
Yeah it looks cursed as hell though multiple people in comments have said that it's possible to modify the AK to be able to do that and if that's true this is actually cool as hell as it's very unusual looking reload.
It isn't cursed at all.
I went to grab my AK to test this out.
Pull the bolt carrier as seen in the animation and your right hand with your index flick it to safe. Now that its locked in place reload like normal and once you are done you can remove it from safe. I don't see how this is cursed maybe because in video games no one has done that animation to reload an ak.
@@dmn6480 It is possible but extremely inefficient way to reload. Too many unnecessary steps.
Good thing it's a videogame and efficiency don't matter at all. @@mistertililing5933
In the Delta Force devlog, the Devs said they'll change the animations before they release the final game so I assume the animations are placeholders for the time being seeing there's original animations to some of the weapons in there
Also the game is Free To Play
If they don’t have permission to use those assets as placeholders, that’s still a huge issue. They put out a playable demo for influencers and others to create video promotional material from, which is how the weapon animation footage got out in the first place. If they don’t own the rights to those assets, it puts every content creator who has created content about the game up to this point at risk… not just them. Did you not see all the TH-cam channels that got a DMCA for sharing that prototype Batman game footage? Same issue.
@@Bluedrake42 Well, that's going to be on them. Seems like they're rushing on putting out a playable demo for testing. I remember back in the day when the OG MW2 2009 came out there's also a korean game called Battle Territory Battery aka Arctic Combat which is inspired by MW2 at the time and its an MMO. It got shut down because of similar comparisons even the game doesn't contain any assets from MW2. Game came with their own animations, weapons, maps, etc.
@@Bluedrake42 I mean, look at Medal Of Honor Warfighter and Battlefield 3. They share the same animation style for weapons and some of Warfighter's reloads are straight up ripped off from Battlefield 3 and nobody seemed to complain
@@totalguardian1436 That’s not the same thing. Those are two games both owned by EA. EA can absolutely reuse their own assets if they want. That isn’t the same thing as another studio using EA assets in a game owned by a completely separate studio without their permission.
Free to Play? nah its OHD that truely FTP, Its Free-Mium Free to play With Premium Microtransaction, PEOPE SHOULD STOP SAID FREE TO PLAY to MIcrotransaction PLAGUED GAME
This game is so good. It's free to play and it has extraction. It is not the same as MW.
A game free to play on every console, pc and phones
Everybody: I don't like it
Ex battlefield devs working here, COD devs working here
I don't like tencent, ea, Microsoft, saber interactive, epic, etc
But hey I'm playing video games 😂😂😂😂
6:26 "lets change things up so its not too suspicious" Cursed AK reload
The Chinese make good copies of products. Really good. This shouldn't come as a surprise.
Agreed!
“Copyright laws are more of what you might call guidelines than actual rules.” -Tencent
@@3ofSpadesall shooters kopied from each other. COD has Warzone because of games like PubG or Fortnite. BF and COD copy from each other for decades.
@@S.H.N.80sbro said because of PUBG and Fortnite, I’d argue that H1Z1 is the first real FPS Battle Royale game that was popularized
@@imSkrap yeah right, good for you knowing that, i apologieze for my mistake. I don't know anyone who played that game. Or didn't even know it was famous like PubG and Fortnite.
how many different ways are there to reload the most common guns in video games lmao
One is being made with Unreal engine(Delta Force) and the other is using it's own engine, no way they can share files. Any decent animator will be able to replicate COD's weapon animation in any modern software like blender or maya.
COD MOBILE IS GOOD THE GAME IS FINE. Also its fine bruh like its good that they give cod a run for its money it could be better than current cod.
Timi : Tencent Games
Tecent Games : China
Stuffs are just legal till someone says no
Delta Force is the greatest FPS franchise ever made. Was well ahead of the game. I still play DF2 and DFBHD. This new one doesn't look like DF. It's not Novalogic anymore.
yea its more like cod+battlefield2042 had a child, nothing like delta force
@@micholous
Yeah man I was holding out hope, but this just shows me it's a reskin of COD where they didn't even try to change animations. I'm good on all that, I'll wait for the DF mods on OHD
Tencent own Timi. Time make Delta Force and CODM, its a F2P mobile game and its not like Activi$ion has scummy practices. A lot of CODM guns and animations are re-skinned
If the animator recreated the animations and ended up looking similar it's all fair it's his work
Recreations usually don't result in a 1-to-1 copy, this is them straight up taking the animation files from cod and using them
I don't care if it's copy or what... If the gameplay is better than battlefield, cod etc I'm happy. Because that's the point I'm playing the game. Not because it has 99% similar animation. Who could give F about that... The whole video is just about that... Like c'mon.
I'm not defending Delta I'm pretty new into knowing this game but if this is a very critical thing I find it silly.
If the copy is legal then it's legal or else send the video to cod and see what they say.. I mean u guys are like "omg" so do something good, send it to Activision and maybe they slam the hammer, but it wouldn't surprise me if the creator of all animation had the rights or like there was no copyright thing for the animation.
I'm more for the gameplay not animation so.
@@tkraft1442 preach🔥
you're tarded show me multiple different ways to reload the same guns 😆@@DewaKrishna_
I had a feeling they were stealing some animations and models just of the trailer when I saw it for the first time but I was willing to write it off as a place holder but still they have too many animations and models that are the exact same to CoD to write off.
Atleast the AK reload from that new delta force game are something i havent seen before
Most of the rest are MW-ish iwhich is undeniably similar to Hyper's modern warfare animation
Probably just a placeholder animation, Due to the game still being new, and that theres animations that are different than COD. Probably going to be changed soon enough or changed if Activision tells them otherwise.
They had access to the data for the development of Call of Duty Mobile and used the animations. It is questionable how this is to be seen legally. Especially as Battlefield was also clearly copied.
It is not illegal but it is definetly a turn - OFF...!
Mic gets a lil harsh when you get loud.
It’s a bluedrake classic. Part of the lore.
atlast yt Have its own Volume Slider for that
my fav part
@@trashcompactorYT Part of the Lore part of the Core!
(Where did I hear this XD)
Timi is based in Shenzhen China and it's pubished by tencent.
if it is the same team and everything is legal, then i'd say no problem, infinity ward been doing that since mw4 to any CoD before 2019 MW (that include treyarch CoD)
If its only about reload animation why is it a big thing ? I mean there not 300 way to reload a gun so ...
losing faith lost faith in dice
a decade ago
Decade ago bf4 , bf1 ?!
@@GFE. Dawg, battlefield 4 is more than 10 years old now and bf1 is 6 years old...
it was an over exaggeration@@GFE.
to be fair bf1 is coming up on a decade@@GFE.
I judged them based off of speed and particular differences. Some you are in the right point out, others were just outright different.
IF it's just you giving credit where it's due, I respect that.
I just wish you pointed out via speaking it and/or annotating it that some animations in particular are different (if I missed the part where you DID point that out, my b :P).
OTHERWISE... *sigh*
Edit: Do you think that because they have ties that some of the animations are deliberate "easter eggs"?
Like any equation both simple and/or complicated can get the same number if not a different one.
This is either a placeholder or theft. But probably theft both ways.
So its going to feel like cod shooting mechanics and movement gameplay on a battlefield style map with vehicles. Not nessercerely a bad thing in that aspect. Assuming it will be smooth to play with good hit reg ect. I just worry about everything else with the game.
Its weird to see Lachman 762 animation in a proper gun model
I don't mind any reused assets as long as the game is good.
But it's important that they are being used legally and not stolen.
If these assets are legal then I think it's perfectly fine.
I have a question. Both Games are Military shooter, dosn't the US Military teach it's soldiers how to reload efficient? If yes, why should it look totaly different and this two games? (and so far i remember, CoD Modern Warfare got Praised for it's realistic animations.)
I am Chinese. I am glad that our western friends can finally witness how disgusting Tecent is. You think EA and ubi are bad? Well You won’t think long😂
yes ea is very bad because they are very greedy
Rotoscoping?
I think the animation look similar but i thik the dev has access to cod mobile animation wich i can tell wich one are from gun like the sniperrifle have the codm hdr reload but you know as a plublisher this big they might contact activiton to use the animation but what did i expect it chaina company
buddy ate spaghetti and spilled on his shirt. Manchild
Should i do back flip while reloading to avoid copyright?
How come?? 😲😳✨🙄
I played Delta Force Black hawk down on my ps2
the best answer is, lets wait and see what activision will do if the animation stay similar to COD
I assume the devs have some sort of licensing agreement with Activision since they made cod mobile and haven't been sued by Activision yet. I know they're based in china, but if this was IP theft Activision would have cut ties by now and pursued some form of legal action.
At least here in germany it is not unusual that you have a contract which includes the clasue, that all results of work you do for a company belongs to the company. So if you develop these animations whan working for a game dev company, these animations belong to the company, not you as a private person. Don't know how this is in US law though
who cares
Here's a note for those who aren't familiar with Tencent's studios.
They make great looking titles without the optimization problems like from games made by western studios.
Expect DF to run better on a wider range of devices.
What's the catch? *Your personal data... all of it.*
Anything you outsorce is still property by contrat to the company that is contracting. In this case CoD has the property of anything they produce for them and unless by contract they can use it, which is very extrange, it is illegal to use it even though you made it.
I've worked for various games as outsorcing and I can't take things that I did on one game and put it on an other game. I can use the same workflow but nothing else
this makes me wanna localise boganism in my area
Reekid is based
Localize bologna in your area
I saw gameplay and immediately made the connection. I knew that they had ripped assets from MWII/COD Mobile and it seemed obvious. So many people being surprised or ambivalent to this are part of the problem. As much as you may dislike Activision or IW, you can’t steal someone’s or a company’s intellectual property.
Hawk Ops looked very fishy form the start, sad to see a old game just get grabbed up for the name and nothing else.
Or using the animations were simply part of a deal they made with Call of Duty.
Doesn’t Bluedrake look like the main actor of Rampage Capitol punishment? Scary dude if you ask me 😬
Not that it makes it "okay" but they might just be using the animations for marketing and the game will release with completely different anims entirely.
and some of those animations are used in cod mobile too so idk i think its ok ???
Yeah exactly the same is kind of a bit too close for my liking but it's always iffy defining legality for derivative work with textures/models/animations and audio. I mean in most cases changing like 10% of the product is good enough for the courts so I'd have to wonder why anyone wouldn't at least change a few of the keyframes and playrate on a motion capped animation -unless you're in China then simply stealing it and telling everyone you made it is just business as usual.
Fyi TiMi is a Korean studio and is also known of implementing Desktop games into mobile, most popular for: PUBG Mobile and CoD Mobile. However they’re really bad at maintaining their games. (Not hates btw, just an info)
It’s almost likely the most greedy company in recent gaming history invested a ton of money into cod 2019 and basically reused everything to milk that investment back
bruh you only care about reload it's not a big deal also it's free not overpriced 70$ dollar dlc like mw3 it's free that didn't mean they are greedy
I came right from the video mentioned, and someone commented that apparently due to the animations being ported for COD: Mobile, they have the rights to use them? Stupid, whether that's the case or not..
I ain't complaining tbh, so long as it's not theft. The person / team who made / make the COD weapon animations deserve to be pulled out of the call of duty mines. Rip Raven.
The fact that they worked on call of duty mb is just enough to say how they got the animations in there.
i'll be honest, let em dump money into it and it will either be a good game or tencent cancells another studio
kind of a win win situation for us
There is no way people noticed this now? you guys are just looking at the animations? the moment the trailer came out I realized they were using the same engine. just by looking at it how did no one notice this?
not surprised. studios owned by Tencent have a tendency to... "borrow" assets from their AAA contractors. i can confidently say they've been pulling these kinds of stunts for at least 5 years now, and afaik, nothing's ever been done about it.
4:06 TiMi Studios is a Chinese game company
They made codm and most of the anims from codm are copied too
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 YES! I used to do COD mobile content and yes the animations ARE from MWII or MW19 and also some new weapons are from BO Cold War
Ive been preeching the fact they have stolen assets and animations since it first was showcased.
I think the animations are good, so i dont really mind it. Feels cheap, but i bet they save both time and money porting the CoD animations over. And Tencent is known for semi aggressive monetization, so making money is very much in their interest.
Also something no one is touching on, is that not just the reload animations are ripped from cod, almost all animations from movement, sprint animations, some weapon shot sounds are the same and ripped from cod and you can easily identify them such as the sprint animation that is 100% just a copy from mwll
Oh shit do you have video evidence of this?
@@Bluedrake42 well its very obvious from the gameplay they posted, it was about there extraction mode i guess with some digging you will surely find one, and if you played something like cod mwll or lll you will identify them easily
@@Bluedrake42 yes there is one video on youtube where its a comparison video between cod and df
agreed. there is SO much stuff similar. like it looks like cod from animation perspective. even some models look very similar, almost identical. but that latter part isnt that crazy or big issue
@@Bluedrake42 you can look at exxotik gaming for the source he used to make his video on about this game and look at the footage there
Its mainly the extraction mode the battlefield stuff was not shown much of at all which leaves me very skeptical
How many different ways can you reload a gun correctly
probably not just one
Im reminded of Atari vs Activision 1979
whos to say activision made the animations ? i mean weapon animations are pretty basic and it wouldnt be surprising if lots of game developers and mod developers use the same source for weapon animations to save time on game development
The infinity ward animation team did and they are under Activision..............
they literally key-framed the animation and you can clearly see it from one of the behind the scenes video of modern warfare 2019
Just because it's the same weapon doesn't mean they should have the exact 1:1 hand movements and gun placements...........
if you look at other games like counter strike, rainbow six siege, battlefield, far cry, call of duty, etc. they will have the same weapon but each animation is unique from each other
Just search up comparisons from these games and you will see a difference between the reload animations
look at the shadow on that last reload on the right. lol it does not move. lmao
I hope they change it
activision must have made a deal with them. likely why they didnt move dmz to mw3
Tencent literally has invested in all major game publishers, companies 😂 remember when they solved the problem between epic and krafton outside court
Current day China doing what it does best.
I was turned off by the moment first gameplay was revealed. It's not a Delta Force game and should not be branded as such.
Solution:
Make a Delta Force 2 game with the same classic multiplayer style gameplays (King of The Hill, Team King of the Hill, Search & destroy, Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch and Cooperative!).
With Battlefield 3 style maps, infantry, vehicles, jets and boats.
Do NOT make another futuristic shooter like Battlefield 2042!
Make it present day!
Makes sense why DF looks like a mobile shooter.
And I thought I was the only one who saw a resemblance
Even the lighting looks similar to MW19
Call of Battlefield®: Escape from Modern Warfare
HOW DO U NOT THINK THEY ARE THE SAME THEY ARE LITTERALLY FRAME PERFECT THEYRE PORTED OVER
Timi studio is known to ripoff such as arena of valor and others. Its just one of the perks of being Chinese company, where copyright is non-existant
Combat master did the same thing. These guys will probably be fine as well.
Maybe its just place holders remember its legal to port cod anims as long as the project doesnt make money but when the game is finished there will be new anims
i really hope that this game turns out good. im tired of how Cod and BF are handled and would love to see this game take the best of both BF and Cod plus get rid of the bad modern stuff like crazy skins etc.
as to the the animations. Im honestly glad they are like this because as shit as the modern Cods can be these days the animations are the best around.
So if we can get a Military Shooter with the best of battlefields modes and call of dutys animations id be happy to have such a game to play again 😄
there is only so many ways to reload a gun realistically
doesn’t justify stealing animations
That's exactly what I was thinking about
that's fair, except some of them look like a 1:1 copy (same timing, screen-shake, ect)
But can a dev show proof, they made it? It's not ok to steal work that was bought by another studio, even if you made it. Even if the studio is an evil POS. If an artist makes and ad for pepsi, he can't turn around and sell that same ad to coke.
My guy you obviously don't understand the very obvious difference between just a reload style and the actual animation. These are not just same "reloading styles" but legitimately identical animations down to the every single keyframe...
Call of Duty Mobile has a lot of the newer animations from the mainline games ported over, which may inadvertently give them the right to do this.
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I left squad because of operation HD ...
The situation is hilarious
Drake, I think we should see more OHD related content.
I post about OHD a lot lol
I am not excited for this game. Never have been.
with bullshit argument because of the reloads what about gameplay pvp
@@shahadalwttar1386 Tencent involvement = shitty game. I hate microtransactions, P2W/Predatory Grinding, and gambling.
Also this game is nothing like the original games which I have played.
I genuinely don't think the animation is that big of a deal, I mean, like, as long as it's fun, I'll still play.
i thought he was gonna talk about the fact the game is gonna be on mobile as well. because alot people hear mobile game and decide to hate even though mobile games have been getting alot better.
every map and gamemode in singleplayer ohd is missing pls fix
nvm it appeared i just needed to be patient lol
ok ive been waiting for 5 min and nothing is happening i think this is a problem
i fucking give up everytime i make a comment it goes back up
I'm not surprised... 💀
1:20 oh by the way I am a COD mobile TH-camr
Making it look 1-to-1 would require more effort than actually creating a good and unique animation, these are just ripped assests from cod
I honestly don't have a problem with this at all even if it they are the same assets.. However i can understand where people are coming from. I don't know how much more innovated you can get when it comes down to reload animations or if reload animations even matter a whole lot when you consider the game as a whole. Is it cutting corners to use already made assets? Sure it is, but is it a bad thing? I don't think so because any game that is being made on unreal 5 is probably using already made assets in one form or another. The reload animations look amazing and i just don't know what developers could do to improve on reload animations at this point without going crazy and making them unrealistic.
as long as it's not asset flipped...