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- Shroud reacts to battlefailed 2042 by big boss! Where he adds his own opinion and review based on his experience with battlefield 2042 and games!
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#shroud #gaming #react - เกม
Anyone still playing Battlefield?
_Don't forget to check out big boss' channel! Dude has amazing videos_
_TBF they did improve the game a lot since this video released but a lot of the points are tru_
_(also, to be more specific, bf4 was a struggle on _*_launch)_*
Yoo shroud
I binge this game for a week or 2 every couple months. There are of course issues with the majority of the game. Hit reg just turning off (very very occasionally, but more than most games) , and some horrific map design. Every map that has come out post launch has been very good! Game has very good movement and it’s still battlefield at its core. It’s good for farming enemies being that it has strictly CBMM. I find the game fun and satisfying.
I still play battlefield V.
@@galupe5525 agreed. movement feels apex smooth
Dice had done a good job in fixing the game. They changed alot of things in the game. They even changed all the visual recoil of the guns. So better Play it and give your opinion about the game.
The fact shroud himself said the streamers and people of prominence gave all the proper feedback but yet the devs brushed it off and didn’t listen goes to show how the suits run the gaming industry forreal fr..honestly its sad i see why games are trash these days these damned investors
Tbh who gives a shit what streamers think? They all cry about something and will be playing the next hot title in a week anyways. More games have been ruined by streamer feedback then they have fixed. lol
@@BlueMax717 everybody that watches the video cares brother obviously if not we would not be here commenting talking about it honestly in my opinion brother
@@BlueMax717 ik what you mean thoo lol they did the same thing wit the “Cod killer” lol remember tht😂😂😂
@@BlueMax717 ......better get the fucking opinions than to actually ignore opinions, just look what happened to battlefield lmao
@@BlueMax717I don't disagree with you entirely, but imagine a business pays a hundred consultants and then just ignores every single piece of advice given. What the fuck was the point of paying streamers AND having them come out for feedback REPEATEDLY while never once listening?
never heard a worse take than shroud saying bf4 sucked... while trying to kind of defend 2042.
He's a meathead when it comes to games.
Both started in horrible states, but BF4 shaped up quicker and eventually was better. I still like 2042 in it's current state, but it's definitely least improved.
Bf4 was such a letdown from bf3
That by those standards it does not meet the bar.
Not worth playing
"I don't know why they say fake history" while people are running around looking like clowns, wielding whatever weapons they want, in a WW2 game, while having no famous theatres. Oh, and "The beta was good"....... no, it was terrible.
anyone that played both games at launch knows that BF4 had a worse launch and took longer to fix its issues.
No way bro said bf4 sucked
it did suck really hard at launch
@@sandboxie97 food is cold before you put it in the oven, but that does not mean you ate cold food.
@@myocay They were selling cold food to people until they have to bring in a better Chief that doesn't give them microwave food.
@@Underground3 you missed the point completely, I'm not saying it didn't suck at launch at all.
Bro did get dislike for that👎
Shroud is wrong about the classes at 15:35 each character had all equipment available to them. There wasnt class separation.
also let's add the fact that specialist bring a huge meta gap **cof cof** mackay **cof cof**, since the disparity in their special abilities, rendering some practically useless
There was universal equipment available to all specialist but no specialist ever had all equipment available to them.
The class identification was always there, it just wasn't in your face like it is now.
@@HoboGaming I mean you didn't need all the equipment you could run sniper/AT with Ammo pack and never run out of shit to kill. Post up in a position with 3 others running Medic bag/Ammo pack and AA/LMG/Sniper rifles and you were pretty much untouchable by anything other then another sniper squad whilst racking up endless amounts of kills. Shit was so annoying to deal with and just added to the further frustration that anyone could do that since you didn't need a dedicated person to run shit they all could run what was needed with no class diversity. Where as in most of the old games you'd kill the medic/Engi first and could deal with the other people with relative ease.
he was wrong on many things lol
@@HoboGaming no medics could run with a sniper rifle and ammo. thats not normal.
Did he just say that BF4 sucked?! Daaaamn, son.
shroud has some really bad takes usually ngl
damn how could he
I about clicked off the video when he said that 😅 BF4 is easily one of the best (if not THE best) Battlefield games ever made. Dude is wild with his takes.
In all fairness, BF4 was absolutely HORRENDOUS on launch. Horrible hit detection, texture issues, whole buildings not loading in. It took about a year for it to be a decent game.
Well watch his stream of it lmao he was getting absolutely dumped on
Still nothing beats the Battlefield 3 & 4 experience. Everything about those games was just perfect. It's a shame all of those devs are gone.
Bruh shroud said BF4 was overrated but I’m with you. Perfection!
@@GSP-rd9dk yeah I couldn’t believe he thought that. It’s probably cause he wasn’t into vehicles too much. Leaves me scratching my head
Those developers made The Finals.
@@solid5502 some of em yeah, unfortunately that game has rigged matchmaking which kills the game. Its a shame Eomm ruins modern games
not all the devs left. some did. not all lol
Tell me you dont know Battlefield without telling me. Shroud:
Right? The main failing point of 2042 was that it tried to take ideas from all the games popular on twitch and awkwardly jam them in to a BF format. It seems hard for me to believe that Dice didn't listen to the streamers, when 2042 came out copying Valorant, Siege, Warzone, and Apex which were all the popular Twitch games at the time. Obviously Dice wanted in on the free marketing of Twitch, consulted a bunch of streamers, and ended up copying all the games they were playing almost exclusively. I find it hard to believe that Dice didn't listen to them, and I have a feeling streamers just don't want to admit that they are not game designers, and they do not actually know what players want to play or what goes into game design. I full heartedly believe Dice did what the streamers said, and got the result they did because of it, and streamers are like "that's not actually what we were saying" because they don't want to realize that they maybe gave input on a game they really don't ever play. I mean it seems pretty coincidental that the only game they consulted streamers on has this issue.
@@ov3rcl0cked the video is called shroud's reaction not battlefireld expert giving opinion
BFV: Best Gunplay, no suppression. Sniping felt great.
BF1: Best atmosphere. Most theatrical mulitplayer fps I've ever played. Truly home to some of the best "Only in BF" moments.
BF4: Best overall experience, great gun selection and customisation. Great level design.
BF5 best gunplay minus the random recoil. Best movement though, directional slide control *french kiss*
I think BFV has also best movement
But the community talked crazy during each of those eras. I remember how much bs was said about bf1s gunplay the fact the spread was rng, Or bf5s lack of customization.
@MarcRain1 You are not wrong, each also had their own issues at launch. Levolutions crashing servers on BF4 on release stands out to me. However they all looked and felt like BF games, I saw the first gameplay trailer of 2042 and immediately knew it would be dogshit. Even with BFV's "historic inaccuracies" saga it still looked like a BF game in trailer and felt like one on release.
I would replace "Best gunplay" with best movement for BFVagina.
BF4 has the best gunplay tho
Battlefield 2042 taught me to never pre-order a game based on a trailer or hype😔
So glad steam was able to refund me for it. My stupid ass re bought the game. I still dont know if that purchase was worth it or not
I remember getting lied to by EA saying the beta was a old build of the game and the full launch would be different..
I learned that lesson from Fallout 76. A real dick punch for sure.
i believe what you meant to say is NEVER BELIEVE EA
Yeah man I was in the same boat, diehard battlefield fan and the trailer hit every nail on the head 😢
The class change wasn’t just visual. Every single character had access to all of the weapons, which fucks the entire flow of the game
Still have dude , what you talking ...
U can take casper with smg or evem lmg
Yeah… funny when you have support running snipers with ammo and heals, only for their own ego😢 most of the matches i play on feks conquest, teammates don’t bother play objective, they only care about kills…
Wich they could reward more to teamplay…
@@m00n92x1 yeah, that's why it still sucks.
In BF4 they gave everyone DMRs and carbines. Might as well just go all the way.
If they wanna restrict weapons and gadgets, I'd prefer they do the BF2 system and actually make it like a military shooter.
@@m00n92x1 personally, I prefer that recon isn't actually stuck with just sniper rifles. It means I can play close support recon.
Shroud, those specialists were basically exhibit A of how out of touch the devs were with the essence of what BF is
Yes and no... I was saying the same thing on launch, the specialists were just classes, but you chose your class based on the equipment you chose. The only difference really was the fact you weren't limited to what weapon you had to use if you wanted a certain class. Which was a great change IMO. (the only great change 2042 made).
@@whatNtarnation90 that was exactly the problem though. Bf2 was brilliant because the class you were had distinct strengths and weaknesses. Engineers drove vehicles, but were limited on foot combat, assault, medics and spec ops were the fighters, recon stayed back. It was like constructing actual squads of soldiers instead of groups of individual heroes
@@whatNtarnation90 I posted this in another thread as well.
Battlefield requires classes. That being said, BF2042 at launch was not a BF game at heart. When any specialist can equip any gun or piece of equipment, it reduces the need for teamwork, which has always defined BF games. You had someone run assault for medic capabilities, you had someone run support for ammo, someone run engi for tank busting, and someone run recon for long range and/or reconnaissance. When every class can do it all, it makes the game feel more like COD and less like BF. You could run solo and not worry about your squad, which may have been by design considering they had no way to communicate with your squad in the beginning (virtually rendering squads almost completely worthless). Even the way BF2042 is right now is less like BFV and more like COD because every class can equip every weapon. It shouldn't be like that. The game is in an OKAY state right now, but it's not what I would consider a good BF game.
this is how someone with fame and no BF experience reacts and feels about BF2042 (and who thought BF4 was overrated). Thank you @Shroud, it was fun watching someone clueless talk about a well documented franchise. Cheers bud.
Based and accurate take my friend. Shroud is so devoid of a clue on this game. Someone else called him a Battlefield Tourist and it's 100% accurate! LMAO
BF4 was a $60 BF3 DLC.... EA followed the same trend as Call of Duty once both games got popular on console. Rerelease the same game but for $60 with some new maps and skins. BF4 is only considered so good because BF3 was so good.
That is why he got invited to the playtest. Not a single BF veteran got to play bf2042 before launch
Battlefield 4 is one of the goats and quite a lot of people still play it. I remember he played with the DoC and got streamsniped by a tank
yeah thats why said it was bad lol
when im done with tarkov and warzone, BF2042 recomforts me :(
@@tommyvercetti2424 Totally has nothing to do with BF4 being completely unplayable at launch....
@@HoboGaming he didnt even play at launch
@@HoboGaming Yet now it is literally one of the best battlefield games ever made and still has a active player base across all platforms.
Shroud just lost his credibility with me when he said BF4 sucked😂😂😂. Granted BF4 did have a rocky start, BUT once it was fixed, the amount of content we got!!! 5 DLC each with more than 4 maps guaranteed. China Rising, Second assault, Naval strike, Dragons teeth, and Final Stand. My God they had a DLC with maps solely focused on Naval warfare with Island maps. Summer of 2014, 2015 forever etched with BF4 Memory.
Anyone else believe BF1(2016) was DICE's last proper BF game?? Grand Operations was a breath of fresh air.
kinda agree, I'm just sad about BFV, the bones of that games are absolutely amazing, gorgeous graphics, great gunplay, best movement of the series. Banger title, just literally every besides the gameplay, absolute ass.
monetisation, asignments, marketing, response to fan reaction...., clunky menus, live service, lack of new content, TTK changes (launch TTK best TTK)
No shroud they werent classes as it were for BF. No one has ever been able to use a sniper and a rocket launcher in good old BF games because they had the actual class system where there were 4 different sets of weapons and gadgets to choose from
No way he said bf4 was ass disappointed
its because the only time he played it, he was getting shit on by tanks and helis lol.
He might of also played it at launch when the game was in shambles not after they fixed it and it became what we all know and love
also dude said bf5 was better than 1, then cries why the devs dont listened to streamers
@@tonycezar1645Probably because of the movement in BFV. I love BF4, 1 and V. 4 had the best weapon variety, and vehicle variety. 1 had the best campaign, sound, and atmosphere. Maps were also pretty good for Operations. BFV had somewhat good gunplay and the best movement. I did get to play 3 back in the day, but I was only playing Operation Metro/Rush for 3, gunplay was amazing though!
@@tonycezar1645 that's because it is better lol. The only thing BF1 has over BFV is atmosphere and immersion. Which isn't even that bad in BFV. Gunplay, movement, vehicles, no bullet dispersion, etc.
My Fiance and I play Battlefield 4 almost every night! It’s the only one imo that stands the test of time. It is so much fun and still has every og aspect of the game that make it fun! After 11 years servers are still getting full!
Serevers still full godamnn I gotta get back on !
Still can't hold a candle to BF3 imo. It may have more content and is a bit more fleshed out in some areas, but it arguably has worse maps, sound and animation design. BF3 had more impact on the franchise by far.
Love me some bf4, but I believe now 2042 is the better game.
@@vinniepearl yeah sure.
@rip-off749 lol. Poor little guy. Did someone piss in your cheerios? Probably running pc gear from 2010 or playing on Xbox. Five bucks says you're still playing 24/7 metro after ten years. super boring.
Game is ready to play by 2042 as advertised. My favorite part was constantly seeing the loading screen of a naval ship then never seeing one map with boats and open water. Maybe in another 18 years
Battlefield 4 was a masterpiece post launch. The most fun I've ever had playing an FPS.
Battlefield 1 is still imo the best arcade shooter that’s released. It had its flaws but air combat and gun play felt so god damn good
Its definitely my favorite BF. Everything in that game felt amazing, the guns felt like cheese graters but they were unique feeling.
I hated battlefield 1 more than I hated any other battlefield game.. because of the gunplay, specifically. Random bullet deviation, sweetspot mechanics, forced effective ranges, the fact that literally every single pistol was quite literally better than 95 percent of every single primary weapon, regardless of caliber, or metric of weapon physics, or the fact that literally every overpowered weapon in the game was a weapon that either wasn't even used in actual combat, or was a literal one off design that in real life was completely terrible in actual function. However, visually, and atmospherically, the game was and still is, stunning. Simply gorgeous. The sound quality was amazing. But the thing that holds it in such a bitter position for me, and for most of the old school players of battlefield games, is the gunplay. If they had just implemented their tried and true weapons systems, gunplay mechanics, it would be hands down the best in their franchise.
@@garretisla5282 every downside you've said in your comment is a necessary game mechanic that should be in the game in order to keep the ''historically accurate gameplay'' motto. If it wasn't these mechanics battlefield 1 would've been just another battlefield 5 but worse version of it, since ww1 had much less weapons. I am happy with this way of the game and i still think that this game is the best battlefield ever released in every term. If you don't like these ideas of the game you could simply git gut bruh
@@garretisla5282 you realize if the game was historically accurate, the gunplay would have been AWFUL. What you're asking for is hilariously stupid.
@WutTheDeuceGaming so, hell let loose is terrible? Arma is terrible? Squad? Verdun? And, in case you were wondering, I WORK AT EA. So yeah, I must not know anything, huh? Hell let loose ALONE has more concurrent active players than the latest battlefield title. So does Arma. Asshat.
@15:35 actually, the specialists were *not* inherently also classes. If you remember 2042 early days, every random soldier regardless of which specialist was running AA rocket launchers.
Made it impossible to assess what kind of fight you're going into when every member of the enemy team could be carrying any type of equipment.
They kinda were classes, all of them could fit into one of the 4 traditional classes and were kinda designed around them, but due to the freedom to use any gadget and any weapon, almost no one would ever pick a healing crate or an ammo crate, as you could just take c4, a rocket launcher or armor plates to help you do better.
also, the second point does not matter, your not gonna look from 100 meters away if the enemy is a assault or a medic and completely change your gameplan around that, their still getting shot the same.
@Thedefenses I disagree. In my 14,000+ combined hrs in BF titles from BFBC2 through BF1, I would consistently identify an enemy squad's composition and target their medics first, and hunt for spawn beacons and TUGS if I saw recon.
Also, they only became classes when DICE locked certain equipment to specific sets of operators. Additionally, having 128 people using the same exact operators and skins made identification even harder, whereas before your enemies were distinguishable solely based on their kit and their uniform design (See examples in every other BF title since the original 1942)
@@effyeadude The only time i react differently to an enemy class is recon, and that's only due to the spawn beacon, otherwise its what ever.
over the 550 hours in the franchise, i have never cared if what i am fighting is a medic, assault or a support, most of the time recon is also whatever during the fight, only after does it matter.
the kill times are always fast so the enemy having an smg, AR or a dmr does not matter much, same time it takes for them to die, sure i fight different if i am at long range with a smg, but that more due to my own weapon than the enemy, no real reason to shoot at some one if you can´t kill them.
if i really am gonna go into a full room, see a full 4 man squad sitting in there, sure targeting the medic would be wise, but as of current battlefield, everyone can revive, albeit slowly, so its best to just kill anyone that comes to sight, not take valuable time and search for the medic that most of the time is not even there due to how rare seeing them is often.
@Thedefenses idk I guess you have a different approach.
The overwhelming majority of long-time Battlefield fans would likely agree that they took a step back in the class system after BF4, which wasn't perfect itself, and 2042 was such a departure from what was a tried and true component of the franchise that it soured most of us BF veterans who mained these games for years.
@@Thedefenses On battlefield 3 days, classes mattered a lot to me, I almost only played as a heli pilot,(little bird, z-11) and I use to get very close to the enemy team. Knowing which class I was shooting at changed a lot they way I approach them, I would never go on a straight line against a Engineer, never got to close to a US Assault (they would laser me with the m16a3) and was way more carefree against the Support and Recon.
Battlefield 4 and overrated is something I never thought I'd hear in my lifetime
"the beta was good" SHROUD MY MAN YOURE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS US LMAO
to be fair, i enjoyed the beta, but i didnt have any of the issues most people had, the biggest issue for me in the beta was the renders on pretty much everything made the game look like a ps2 game but other than that the game worked for me and performance was fine.
BF4 was so good what the heckers shrood!?
its because the only time he played it, he was getting shit on by tanks and helis lol. dude might be a god at some games but has shit takes and opinions.
Yeah shrouds smoking crack on that one. BF4 was one of the last great games
@@tommyvercetti2424 Yeah I just noticed tbh, he literally has the worst takes on almost everything in this video
BF4 was one of the best "at its time" but why because not seen anything better, now what came should have been much better and it failed but saying that i kind of liked bf1 and bfv but was let down with the late life of bfv and it was the very 1st bf game i stopped playing early, still think the Bad Company was a better series over BF4 but hey thats just me.
Because he suck so much in it, he better playing cs or valo
The problem with them turning off xp in the server browser is they turned it off for all of them, even the ones with official settings, and still had/have no server browser
They turn the XP back on you can get full XP now you just have to set it up right most of the servers don't have full XP but some of them do you just have to look almost everyone that says full XP is not going to have for XP just look in the actual description it'll say in blue right underneath the game description and what not and who makes it but it'll say 4xp limited moderate blah blah blah
The way Shroud holds his headset when he takes a sip of his drink is LOL UHHHYEAHHH zesty pose lol
BF5 is way better than 2042. In the end it doesn't matter bc BF3 and BF4 are PEAK Battlefield
EDIT: He said BF4 was overrated? hell nah
bf1 is peak you clown. bf4 is overrated trash. bf3 is the way to go for modern
BF2 is the god's honest goat. The mods were out of this world.
The anticipation of playing BF1942 for the first time.
Hell even BF2142 was a limited time blast.
Everything after was just aspirational.
I honestly don't think that Shroud knows anything about BF, most of what he was disputing was simply wrong
@@isJayBattlefield 2 is was the full Battlefield experience. I miss those days.
Sorry but BF3 Clears all...
I don't think Shroud understands how much people played the absolute fuck out of BF4. I'm not a battlefield veteran by any means but I'm well aware of that game essentially being preserved because it basically carries the standard checklist that every battlefield game moving forward should have. Obviously people consider bad company 2 and 3 the goats, but when it comes to modern battlefield games the community usually wants all new games to be on Par with 4 or to just not come out
thats what you get from someone whos all about mechanical aim skill only.
I was so pumped for portal, a small futuristic robosquad playing against a larger team of WWII soldiers sounded sick.
This video is a prime example of why they shouldn’t go to “content creators” for advice about their game. Shroud has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to battlfield and it shows in this video. Shroud saying “who cares” about BFV being historically accurate. Majority of the community cares, shroud. Saying battlefield 4 is overrated is the worst possible take I’ve ever heard. Battlefield 4 was way ahead of it’s time and still holds up to this day. Saying “who cares” about dog tags is ultimately cringe. He clearly has no idea what he is even dabbling into. Dices first mistake was coming to people like this for “advice” about their game. The class system is a fundamental function to battlefield. To this day on 2042 you will see “medics” with snipers and ammo boxes…. Shroud. You have no idea what you are speaking about yet you flap your lips like you own this shit. You clearly haven’t been around the battlfield community much. These are all very important things that make it battlefield. Shroud should stick to woke valorant for sure.
BetaFailed 3.5 was awful. And the only thing they did was make it MORE AWFUL for third worlders with their conical server priority aimlines hit registry... Don't even.
100% agree with this. Streamers are some of the worst people to go to. Especially with a franchise like Battlefield. Saying the class system was there when it clearly wasn't, and still isn't as defined as it needs to be. Saying "who cares" about Portal when that would probably the best part of the game if DICE would actually give it the love it deserves. Saying Battlefield 4 sucks when pretty much everyone universally just wants DICE to make another game like it.
Also Shroud saying that all the content creators were telling them not to do certain things is hard for me to believe. I think it was Lossy (back when he still did TH-cam) that said that most of the streamers and other creators that DICE paid were just Yes Men who didn't criticize any of the dumb decisions they were making, but he did also say that whenever he or another person spoke up about an issue that they were basically ignored.
Oh and you shouldn't you the term "historically accurate" when referring to Battlefield. What you probably mean is "historical authenticity." It's important to distinguish between the two terms because they don't mean the same thing. Accuracy is basically making it pretty much resemble real life in terms of gameplay and equipment and function. Authenticity is more like everything looks the part and fits with the setting even if it doesn't necessarily work like it did in real life or is a tad anachronistic. Battlefield 1 was far FAR from a historically accurate depiction of World War I, but it had a metric ton of authenticity to it, which is part of the reason it was received so well and remembered so fondly. It's important to use the correct term because certain people will take what you say literally and basically point at you and say "you're stupid because you want this to be just like real life instead of being fun!" That's what the devs and the media did with Battlefield V.
Sorry about the entire essay I just wrote, lol. I just really care about this franchise, and I hate when tourists like Shroud come in and say that they know what's best when they clearly don't understand anything about the series or what the actual fans of it want.
@@midknight9715 streamers and pros play so differently with different goals and time frames. For example xp is a big issue for someone who can only play games for 4-8hrs a week versus someone who plays for 8-12hrs a day.
yeah he had multiple dogshit takes, which i don't mind, we have all different opinions, but then he says he KNOWS what people what in a battlefield game while spewing this nonsense lmfao.
@@KNIN-ni6lz Yeah. What people REALLY want in a Battlefield game is 2042!
Battlefield 3 / 4 was some of my favorite gaming. The atmosphere and music set such a mood. The way the rounds would sway from tickets was such a fun experience. I really wanted a cleaned up version of that... It just wasn't that.
The problem with all these FPS games is you have people at these studios that don't wanna make games like COD or Battlefield and they get put on these projects and fucking ruin them. You can just tell with the lack of care and effort put into them the past 10 years
Battflefield 4 was the best Game with Battlefield 1!
24:48 Mike trying so hard not to smile LMAO
ahhahahahahaha I haven't heart that voice clip in so long, I'm crying
gotta disagree with the specialists piece, restricting you to a specific role on the team helps to balance the flow of the match. If everybody is running rocket launchers and c4 the vehicles are chalked
whenever a good point it brought up "AAHH who cares" BF players do, you are not a BF player
This game failed its community, streamers and honestly everyone who paid money for it, it honestly hasn't made much of a comeback. The mouse input is still bugged and there is recoil bugs that make the game feel flawed from the core, tons of input and movement delay, movement bugs etc. If you know anything about the "high level" mechanics of the game, there is none, it's gutted out to cater to casuals and if they continue to not listen to the people who really know what they are saying, the franchise will fail.
the cat strapped to the drone caught me off guard lmao
I remember a bug that sent me from the pavement to a container 10-15 meters over the ground, and it was a bug you could use as an advantage.
Battlefield 1942 with Desert Combat mod, damn i miss that time.
A man of culture I see, thousands of hours in DC
Bf4 may have had a terrible launch but it quickly became unbeatable. Also dog tags were a big deal when bf4 was at its peak.
Especially in 3. Getting an ,,achievment" down, got a tag for it and display it proudly after knifing someone. Heck yeah.
the specialists wern't classses because you could use anything you wanted. So you could use mckay with an ammo crate or health crate and a rocket launcher. Now hes assault so he cant use those gadgets, but engineer classes can because theyre meant to take out and repair vehicles. Supports are the only one with the crates now, where before EVERYONE had them.
Specialists were in fact a big deal. Not only did it add a relatively OP ability to everybody, but it also allowed EVERYBODY to run rockets. I remember launch night the average helicopter lifespan was less than 15 seconds because legit EVERYONE on the enemy team had a rocket in their backpack. Older BF games required you to play the engineer class to run rockets, so there was give and take. BF 2042 was all give no take which ruined the flow of the game.
BF4 is correctly rated, shroud. Imo, It one of the best in the franchise.
Good lord whoever made this video absolutely jacked internet historians whole style
fun fact that clip with the cat and the drone was a real cat.... it actually inspired a type of arm called the "dead cat" that keeps the motors from being in the FPV cameras view
I feel like the term "Beta" has been co-opted by marketing teams to mean "hype building process" instead of its original purpose-- get the game into more hands, get feedback on the current state of the game, stress test systems under load, uncover bugs that might have been missed during the "Alpha" stage, etc. And then the most important step-- react to and fix those problems.
Too often, I see game publishers announcing open betas along with release dates sometimes less than a month away. Like you said, one month is not enough time post-beta if you're serious about reacting to all the issues a beta event is going to uncover.
This is where I like how XDefiant is doing things-- they keep announcing open betas, but the release date hasn't been announced. To me this says they're using the beta process as intended-- uncover bugs and fix them prior to release. It has the beneficial SIDE EFFECT of creating hype for the new game, but creating hype is not the PURPOSE of the beta. Marketing departments need to re-learn that important part of game production.
at 28 I feel old when I bring up demos. But my god devs need to do that more. It's good that it's becomming a trend amongst indie devs on steam to release demos for their games.
All I want is a Badcompany 3 with another rich campaign experience with amazing multiplayer
The OG devs are gone, never gunna happen...
@@ThMindFdr I can hope for it my friend, alas I know you’re right…
Shroud may be damn good at games but his knowing what games are good or not is not something we should learn from him after these takes lmao
Can I just admit that the portal xp was a massive deal because custom servers in bf games are mainly what keep that game running. They give you full control of what maps to use, the tickets and the rotation of game modes and also allowed for 126 rush/breakthrough. In bf3 that server finder was the go to for good games with good players and the same went for bf4. Xp in portal is and always will be massively important because alot of players only play on portal.
So im assuming since Embark (devs of The Finals) are a bunch of ex-DICE devs, thats who all the people that dipped at the beginning of development were.
And also why The Finals' level destruction is so damn good
no there were no classes at the start. just individual specialists, they assigned them into classes later on.
After over a year of their entire playerbase asking for it.
That part with the Italian guy saying “what the fuck is this piece of shit” killed me 😂😂😂
Its funny hearing about the consulting at the beginning of this vid. I worked at a media company making a big-budget feature film script where notes were given directly from the audience intended for the story. Apparently they were completely ignored on the revisions. But then a new filmmaker came in and lo and behold all the issues ended up being addressed, but hilariously not even from the initial feedback. just their own revisions.
2042 is actually the game that made me take a step back and never buy another game on release this game was unplayable for a year
Battlefield 4 overrated?! That is blasphemy.
Bf4 is the best game ever made! Nothing compares.
@@willsmith4355bf3? excuse me??
@@GoingDark69BF4. Full Stop.
I want to know what you told them and whether anything has since been implemented to bring it up to par.
I'm convinced there was no scoreboard because they had so many bots in the lobbies.
Game coulda been so good
The biggest sin EA and DICE ever committed was halting development of Battlefront 2 after all the work the devs put into it. They spent 2 years working their asses of in love of star wars and video games to turn a pile of crap into one of the best games they have ever produced. Imagine if it wasn't canceled, rushed, or turned into fortnite with all the micro-transaction customization and card loot boxes. It would be a game still being played today. Even the community agrees with community mod creators keeping the game alive today. But they dug themselves into a hole with 2042 and took 3 studios working on successful/semi-successful games to try and match expectations with their ambition. Battlefield 5, Battlefront 2, and Burnout Paradise future development all swapped to the development of 2042. No wonder all the devs left before this.
(P.S. Shroud) Battlefield 4 was goated. Operation locker my friend.
I love yah shroud but bf4 is not overrated, its the best bf game other than bf3
Bf4 was dogshit for 2 years after release…
In fairness, of all the bugs, the hovercraft climbing buildings was a sight for the human eye and definitely should have been kept in the game.😂
we checked if a ps5 controller could be played on bf2042 i think last year some time and the look up randomly bug is still in the game
Battlefield 1 was the only one I got into and I loved it at the time. It blew my mind how big the games were. You could have all your friends irl all in a match
quiet day at the office with this upload
I think bf4 still has more content than 2042
I used voice chat only once in a battlefield game and teamed up with randoms in my squad.
In open beta i couldnt spawn in with in a loadout no matter what I did, when the game came out I still couldn't spawn in with a loadout. Fast forward today It plays just fine
Can’t blame them for not listening to shroud, he has some of the absolute worst takes for some reason.
Battlefield 4 was and still is the goat
Watching any related 2042 video in 2024 is just a meme in and by itself
I just bought it cause it was like $13 and I’ve actually been having fun on it
But I think if they released it how it is today it would be way better
I honestly say 2042 is nowhere near the best battlefield
The fact you say BF4 sucked and 2042 was anywhere near as good as that invalidates anything you say. Stopped watching not even halfway through. Bro did not play Battlefield and it shows xD
He did though and there is proof on the internet LOL
BF4 was the worst Battlefield and nothing will change my mind on that. Even Hardline was a better game.
He streams video games for a living. You’re probably a blue collar worker clocking into your 9-5 everyday. Pretty sure he knows better than you do
@@fr33dxm7 BF4 was terrible on launch but after they fixed it became the best Battlefield of all time
@@BeegBeegYoshi. He got famous for using aimbot toggles in PUBG, he got destroyed on BF4 without them and is why he hates the game
As Shroud is talking about how he didn’t experience that many bugs in the demo and launch, all I can think of is how I experienced basically ALL of them 😂
“They called me Mr. Glass”
when shroud said the "beta was pretty good" 1000 voices and instances of "STOP THE CAP" blew threw my mind
2:44 ... they did recover the game, but now you cant play because there is no one playing it lol
He is crazy for the bf4 comment
I had to rewind to make sure he was talking about BF4 😂
@@GenerationalDisappointment Ikr that genuinely surprised me
He really isn’t. It wasn’t that great. Now BF3 was great
@@viper1x2bf3 was just a worse bf4 now I will admit it had a bad lunch but once it was fixed it was insane there is a reason there are still many full servers on bf4
Paying somebody or a group of people for professional feedback and not implementing a single ounce of it is the epitome of triple A gaming. lol. how sad
This guy is the internet historian we have at home
Cant wait to see Project Astrid in 10 yrs with all this gamer knowledge.
BF Hardline was the best imo. And no I’m not joking. That game had it all and did it right.
Agreed. Most underrated BF game ever made.
hear me out... shroud dont know sh!t about battlefield and I dont think he should even say anything about the game... he literally said "Who cares about dogtags?" bro...
The loss of the online class editor and map was huge for me. I loved that website BF4. Having the map on my second screen at all times was amazing.
But on launch the specialists weren't in classes and there was no item restrictions. Don't you remember when EVERYONE ran with the rocket launcher.
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Get a life 😂
@Wrigsterr Good advice 👍
Battlefront 2 was good but didn’t have conquest the mode where you attack the enemies ship in space by blowing it up from the outside or the inside. I was always so confused with why that mode was never included
I played this game 3 months ago because it was a free weekend. I was in portal mode and we were playing BF3 mode. There were flying ventilators everywhere, they were indestructible xD. It completely spoiled the atmosphere. You could jump on them.
That bit at the beginning where Shroud says he and almost 100 other people were hired as consultants and then completely ignored infuriated me so much. I didn’t know I could hate EA and Dice any more until now.
as of right now on pc my character is stuck looking down at the ground and theres NO fix on YT or reddit or anything like that for me.
I recently started playing it again. its been a lot of fun.
specialists with their own specific gadgets and all weapons for everyone definitely made a huge difference, and not in a good way.
I played since beta, but that January until September i had stopped. But was able to finally update the game and play again in September or something. Then after that i enjoyed it much more, then it just got better ater the score board, and class changes. Now I really enjoy it.
No wonder I sucked so much in the beginning if the hit reg etc was so broken, I mean also it was new and I wasn't used to it but still
These days I think the hitreg in BF works better than in Warzone.
Voice chat was such an unnecessary request. I can count on one hand the amount of times I heard it, and even then - it was because they had their mic open by default..
In my first game, I counted more than 80 bugs. All of them we're falling across the world.
The UI duuuude, the UI XD XD LMAO
the black ops 3 end game celebrations
i got a 3080 ti and 12700k all recent drivers but its unplayable with stuttering pretty sure I tried everything
4 dev teams and a midgame scoreboard, voice chat, squad mechanics and a stat page are too brutal indeed