Showdown - 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera (991) vs. 2013 Porsche Boxster S - CAR and DRIVER
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- The Porsche Boxster S has always been considered the poor man's Porsche, though the latest iteration gives its big brother, the 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera (991), a run for its money on the latest episode of Car and Driver: Abroad.
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These cars are not made for the 1/4 mile. You can get faster cars cheaper. But if the point is to have fun, the Boxster is hard to beat. I've owned a ton of cars in my life, but my last 2 summer cars have been Boxster and Boxster S. They give you more smiles per gallon than anything else, and they're very reliable. They're not the loudest, fastest, or most boldly styled, but when you grow up you really don't care what others think.
Finally, someone who makes sense...
ClimbnFish my first time riding in a boxer u could not stop smiling. It sounds beautiful and pushes you back in your seat
ClimbnFish for me, its the mk1 early boxter s. people forget the Porsche Boxster is a car made for fun ajd lively driving. not wannabe racing drivers with no talent.
i agree with you.
for me the best road going cars are The original mk1 boxster S, the 914 Porsche and the Honda Del Sol VTi or SiR
You speak da truth!
Boxster S 981 with PDK/Chrono does 0-60 4.2 secs, 0-100 10.4 secs and 1/4 mile in 12.7 secs @ 111mph. Seeing as this car was produced in 2012, that seems pretty fast to me. Faster than an M3 at the same time.
Both are great cars. But having driven many 911s, Boxsters and Caymans, the Boxster is what the 911 USED to be-light and nimble and plenty fast, just what a sports car SHOULD be. Over the years, the 911 has gotten longer, heavier and more bloated and is basically now a GT car. Still a great car, just not as much fun to drive as the Boxster (or Cayman). That’s why I chose a 981 Boxster S. Plus, the roof down experience is awesome!
I have an older 911 and I just bought my third Boxster S. A true convertible sports car with balanced handling and great acceleration. Yes, it's cheaper than a 911, 911S, Turbo or Turbo S....but here in the USA we have a speed limit in most places. The Boxster S does 170 mph, isn't that fast enough to save $30,000? The 911 is a GREAT car, but in my opinion, the Boxster S is the best Porsche bag for the buck.
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Loved that last line "The King isn't quite dead, but the Prince is getting very, very close!"
Awesome camera angle from outside. Can see the track layout as well as cabin and driver movement. Nice work!
Love your Reviews :)
Cinematography, the background Music, Cam angles & the script....
- Beautiful work !
Thanks :)
This is so sick! And the weirdest thing is that I Think the Boxster looks a lot better actually!!
Car and Driver thanks for giving us these videos ! beautifully done !
This host is awesome, and the camera angles like at 5:05 are amazing, great work CARandDRIVER!
The production on these videos is superb! And the content too, haha. Great job!
This video was beautifully done. And what a fantastic looking drag strip. Good work.
Fantastic video - I always wondered what if and you delivered! -MY hat is off to you Gents!
super production quality! thanks!
this video just made my day, fantastic! absolutely fantastic!
Awesome, awesome reviews guys. Really good job!
good stuff CARandDriver!! really well done! greetings from Italy
This video is awesome, great job guys!
Good comparison. There’s one area that you overlooked, which really allows Porsche to keep the new Boxster S in check-It’s the gearing. If one could re-gear the final drive/trans of the 981 Boxster S, to match, gear for gear the 911 both 997 and 991 models, the result would be different That said, both are thrilling cars to drive
Great fun.
Thanks Jethro and Mark.
Great fun. :-)
Finally a worthy competitor for a 911...another Porsche! There is no substitute.
Very nice video. Thank you for doing this.
I'll bet the track time of the Cayman would have been better. Porsche has spaced their models out pretty well. But for a $30k difference I'll take the Boxster every time. Especially when a 911 Cabriolet is closer to $50k more.
wonderful wonderful review mate!!!
great video and great review!
Beautiful footage!
Fantastic film, and a great presenter. Keep this fellow on staff.
Great video quality!!
Thumbs up!!
"Poor man's porsche" lol omg . Haters will always find something wrong . The people saying this most likley can't even afford a boxter . I would buy the boxter and so would many other people who can own 911's and other cars . Please take a seat with the poor man talk . Your poor for even thinking in that mind frame . Why can't I buy this because I like it ?
This was a great film - good job guys!
Great review great video love you guys
Great comparison, great footage!
I absolutely LOVE the sound the 911 makes 8:35 (turn up your speakers!!!)
Love the video, and the reviewer, great job
always imagined what would a Cayman Turbo S be like
Awesome review and comparison.
Great episode!
solid video. enjoyed every second.
IMO I think porsche did a fantastic job on the latest 981 boxster/caymans and this is coming from a 991 owner who has had every previous 911 since the 80's. But, their is something about a 911 that makes you feel the heritage and connection from driving even the latest 991s that is indescribable, and if you've had previous 911s you would understand. The 911s are irreplaceable and people who consider a boxster over a 911 don't get that. I would drive both before buying and go with your hearts desire, but us 911 guys only have one true choice and their is no substitute!
2B055 I did just that about a year ago. Having never owned a Porsche before. Test drove a 981 Cayman S, a few 997's and a 991.1 Carrera S. All were great cars, bought the 991 Carrera S. Like you said the 911 just felt different which surprised me as going into it I had my heart set on the Cayman.
Fantastic video.
One of the best reviews
Great video, CARRERA!
I have been watching car views from top gear, motor trend and motorweek etc, I have to say this is one of the best ever comparision of Porsche mid engine and rear engine cars. If they compared Porsche cayman S vs Porsche 911 base that would have been the best video ever.
Cool review m8s, that track in Wales looks like fun
Just so you know -- this video was very well done.
Great video
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Sweet video Car and driver
Another great video Jethro!! Keep'm comin'! This new boxster is simply stunning to look at and.... A hell of a drive as well!! Sorry 911, bur i'd go for baby Porsche...
I drive a 997.2 CSC and love it. While it was being detailed, Porsche gave me a PDK Boxter S loaner. The Boxter S is a GREAT car. The handling is amazing. You feel like the car is litterally rotating around your waist. It simply lacks enough power to adequately compete with the 911. But the reality is that it is a different car. It behaves in a very different way. While I still prefer the 911's tail happy handling. Both will put a big smile on your face! Porsche, there is no substitute!
Any time I see these track comparisons where the results are a few seconds or fraction of a second in some cases, I don't understand why more people don't make a point about the driver's skills. Especially when it is different drivers. They should do every tract test a minimum of 3 times and probably 10 to find the truth. This driver may be skilled but he can make mistakes or just alter his corners different and it throws the whole test off.
Scientifically, you have a good point. You must always limit your variables when testing anything out. This technically wouldn't be a good test because there is more than one variable.
i found his comment about the track being busy was amusing......it was mostly wide fast corners and long straights.....giving the porsche 911 the advantage.
that being said, its the least performing 911 and the top of the range boxter...
i always feel these tests basically make the results agree with the stats of the cars, and dont make waves.
maybe the guy shouldnt have a chat to the camera while he is trying to drag race the 911 also lol
I love this! Way better than top gear, the driver seems to be a really skilled driver, with all those perfect downshifts I hear. Would watch this if on television!
The boxster hasn't been considered the poor mans porsche since the 986 came out originally...starting with this line is very old hat now!
I agree with you. An outdated statement
The quality of the filming and editing of your videos are excellent! If there's ever an opening in the production team please get in contact, would be a dream job! :)
12:35 The ROAR of the 911 brings jitters down my spine!
Excellent video, describing the differences for us average car owners. One thing that frustrates me, (as well as the crew of that famous Car TV show), is that Porsche seems to hold back on the potential of the Boxster. I wonder what they could come up with if they weren't constrained by product line profitability restrictions
i loved this comparison! next to the boxter vs cayman, or cayman vs 911
Great video. Chris Harris and Jethro Bovingdon, those two are the best car journalists I think.
Awesome 1080p Vid! Friendly Cam View ^ ^(i felt myself in that Porscheee) Cool Thnx
Its the wrong comparison too, try the cayman!
Absolutely. The extra hp and rigidity of the Cayman S just might beat the 911.
Third party performance shops have already tuned Cayman S to surpass 911 times. Its just a matter of time before the king is dethroned.
Bryan Bautista I’ve uptuned my 2014 cayman S to include software upgrade, exhaust, plenum and throttle cable to about 380 hp - it’s close to a 911 @400 hp - but it’s not there
That's great news!!! I just can't wait...
I have a 2003 Boxster S, and it is a stunning car. The IMS bearings once replaced were the only concern. Bang for your buck, great car.
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I really enjoyed this episode, fantastic comparison and perfect video!
It would be nice to see a test of the Koenigsegg Agera R on a proper racetrack ( what about Silverstone?) or the new Viper or.... I'll stop here, too many sick ideas :-)
11:50 he said that no matter what "the results were still the same" with the 911 beating the Boxster, but at least twice I saw the Boxster hit a lower time.
Good work that man! It'll be interesting to see how the new Cayman compares to the 991 911.
I remember watching Jethro over on Driver's Republic a couple of years ago and always enjoyed his style. Now that Harris is a little more mainstream perhaps Bovingdon will emerge as an underground cult favourite?
Shouldn't this be a comparison between the Cayman S and the 911 Carrera?
No, not really. The Cayman is exactly the same as the Boxster but with a hard top added - whilst the 911 is the opposite, originally derived as a hard top, and so the 911 convertible had to be strengthened for rigidity. The Cayman and Boxster are exactly the same - I've driven both Boxster & Cayman 981s many times. Anyone who says there are differences are nit picking.
If anything, the comparison should have been between a convertible 911 and the Boxster which would have added weight to the 911 and therefore put the Boxster ahead (or certainly evened up) in performance and handling terms.
An OtherGoogUser well being as the cayman s has 10 more horsepower than the Boxster s and is more rigid, because it is not a convertible I wouldn’t say they are the same, close but definitely not “exactly the same”
@@jensenlawrence412 Hit it on the nose there!! Porsche's best sports car appears to be the 718 all day! I by no means hate 911's but God they've gotten gigantic after the 997's and unless you have a gt car you are buying a luxury grand touring car which I'm sure is what the market wants.
@@lucasclift3196 try saying that to the incredible lap times they put in. Yes it’s luxurious, and getting more luxurious with each iteration. But they are still very fast, and very fun around the track.
Lovely review, absolutely lovely, want to see, Boxter S(with PDK and sportchrono) and Carrera(with pdk and sportchrono) and The Old 997 Turbo with Automatic with SportChrono(TipTronic S) and the new one with PDK and see the difference would be awesome!!!!!
FINALLY a car show that does NOT use music the whole video long...
Good stuff. Love my Carrera S.
You guys should put more of those cards in the magazines. I find them funny and the action shot is good. I have the card pinned on my wall along with Road & Tracks too :P Basically asking you to make more so I can place them on my wall.
I've seen a Cayman Black next to a new 981 Boxster and the speed difference is massive. I would not expect the Black -> R to make that level of a improvement.
Nice episode I would definitely buy the boxster!
10:53 for the drag race
Loved the video!!! I think the newly launched Cayman S with PDK and Sports Chrono package will take the 911 out both on the track and in the drag strip. Of course you can also option the 911 up but it would cost about $20 grand more.
both of these cars are just marvelous
Great video. New sub
Nice video love your channel XDD
good video i prefer the road tests over the track tests.
Great episode and brilliant presenter! Chris Harris has some competition.
man that was a good review I liked him! The boxster used to be the black sheep of the family now it's my No1 porsche
As for the whole RR/MR debate, consider the following 17 cars, all from Porsche: 360, 550, 718, 787, 804, 904, 906, 907, 908, 909, 910, 917, 936, 956, 962, WSC-95 and the 9R6.
All those cars have two things in common:
1. They were all race cars designed to compete for Porsche at the highest levels of racing.
2. They were all mid-engine, rear-wheel drive cars.
Porsche has offered three RR cars for factory racing, but none has represented Porsche since the late 70's.
Both great cars, but honestlly wih the Boxster being a roadster, this test should have been Cayman S vs 911 - the hard top variant incidentally having 10bhp more than the Boxster. Also, I believe the suspension of the 911 is vastly different, and ultimately superior, to the 981 cars. This makes sense, as the 911 is the halo Porsche and they have to keep that brand hierarchy in place. In any case, they're all great - 911, Cayman, Boxster, it just depends which one you prefer, can afford and so on.
Any news on when you may test drive the new 991 turbo?
Good point. And maybe a comparison v the 911 cab might have been more interesting?
Great video. But can you repeat the comparison against the 991 cab? And maybe add a nice twisty road to it (the Stelvio would be great but it is closed now ;) ).
I love the 991 Carrera 2S !
The boxster is hands down a better looking car!
Christian Bernhall watch you don’t trip over your guide dog
It’s a better looking convertible
good video
This is a great comparo. I still think that there's no way Porsche will ever let a same-year Boxster in any trim beat out a base Carrera. They will handicap the mid-engine platform forever so as to never overshadow the icon. It's because of this that the 981 and 991 share the same motor, but have a 25hp gap. This is also why there will sadly never be a Boxster or Cayman turbo or GT variant. That's too bad. I've spent a lot of time piloting both, and at the limit, I prefer the Boxster.
Yes, there is a new Cayman on the way. Supposedly it will be revealed next year. Also, the Panamera is going to receive a facelift in the near future and possibly a new version as well (Sport Turismo). Still, the Boxster came before the Cayman. The Boxster was first presented in 1993 and the final version (986) came out in 1996. The Cayman (987c) was first introduced in 2005.
I totally agree with you mineking22!!!! well said sir
nice video.
How do you find the Boxster's lift-off oversteer compared to the 911's?
Awesome! Long live the KING!!!
I love this music. Where can I find it?
Good Test and Vid - (a few repetitions about the weight and engines) never mind cheers ;)
Good for you.
why does everyone put down the boxster? if a Boxster is a poor mans 911. then a 911 is a poor mans Porsche Carerra GT.
It's because the first boxster were such garbage that people were terrified to buy them that resale was a fraction of what I paid for it..so many terrible catastrophic problems..bad cylinders..bad bearings..bad tranys. And when my 40000 boxster detonated. At 72000 miles they laughed at me and said so buy a new engine at 12000 and pay 4500 to put it in..and they were throw away cars..after 7 years I lost my ass and went back to BMW..
Just curious what are you using as the chase car?