Democrats Deliver Massive $1.9T Covid Relief Bill | Pod Save America
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- Senate Democrats pass Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan, the fight for the $15 minimum wage continues, and Joe Manchin opens the door to reforming the filibuster. Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett and Tommy Vietor discuss the new covid relief bill, where the fight for the $15 minimum wage goes from here, and the possibility of eliminating the filibuster.
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I donated to the winners of the Georgia Senate races. I'm so grateful to Blue Georgia voters!
I donated to Warnock and Ossoff numerous times...so did other people outside of Georgia.
The very definition of money well spent. Thank God for Stacey Abrams, LaTosha Brown, Georgia organizers, blue donors and blue voters! 💪💙
I am not even American and I am so grateful to all the Americans who worked so hard to win back the presidency and the senate. So happy to see the USA moving in this direction!
Best damn investment I made in 2020: Warnock and Ossoff campaigns.
@@clairealderwood1928 Hear Hear! I concur 100%!!
Can we get a spreadsheet going of Biden's accomplishments, so that when your Fox News watching uncle asks what's Biden ever done, you can rolodex that stuff?
I think they tried that with Obama, and Uncle just rolled his eyes with a chuckle and went back to watching Fox.
It won’t matter Liam, the Cons stick with their story no matter what. Confirmation Bias
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LMFAO SERIOUSLY! but the one thing you can say is "did you get a check for $1,400?" especially if they have many children they got that per child! do they own a small business and applied for a loan and was able to actually get money??
I'm here to hear my smart guys break down the news for me. Love, love you guys. Sending you Caribbean sunshine.
It's past midnight already and I definitely should be sleeping by now. But you three just happen to post a new Pod Save America. Well, sleep has to wait now. Warmest Greetings from Germany! :-)
Yes, the weekly struggle every Monday evening, am I going to sleep or do I stay up a little longer and listen to the Pod?
I get to wake up in the morning and have coffee while listening to PSA.
Love to my lost German girlfriend from Bali 🌞🌊
It still gives me a moment of happiness when I hear people refer to the President and they say Biden instead of Trump.
We know that feeling all too well :)
I know ..it's wonderful.... relaxing....😄😃💙🇺🇸😃😊😀
Georgia really saved our ass lol
Lovett's Dominion machine joke was amazing
Yes... Georgia will stay on our minds for a long, long time.
I was in Sinema’s district when she was in the state legislature. I was in her district when she was in the House. Since being elected to Congress, she has sold out Arizonans and acts on the behalf of her donors. I don’t care about her fashion sense and I don’t care about using the thumbs down method of communicating her vote. However, after viewing her childish curtsy and hearing about her “let them eat cake” antics, I finally reached my limit with her. I communicated to her that her reversal of the political beliefs she held as a state legislator may be a signal that it’s time for Arizona to bring her home in 2024.
(It was the curtsy for me too)
She won’t get my vote again!😡
Vote her out in 2024 because she's a DISGRACEFUL DEMOCRAT. And another one, Joe Manchin of West Virginia.
Even though, Kyrsten Sinema lied since she lobbied for Congress to increase minimum wage in 2014. She just wanted to be elected for enrichment only.
From California
she tapped Mitch on his shoulder(he ignored her) before the thumbs down. but isn't he a Repuglican,& she a Dem. ? So WTH is that all about? (and who dressed her that day? she looked like a 40yr.old competing w/her teenage daughter) SMH
@@jaxdragon1723
Pseudo rebellion?
"Bi-partisan" is not restricted to the Wasington Bubble. This is a bi-partisan bill in the context of the electorate at large.
Agreed, if Republicans aren't accurately representing their constituents' views then that's their failing to address
That Dominion joke from Lovett slayed me.
Or, as Vice President Biden said to Pres. Obama, "This is a big fucking deal!"
You damn right, Jack! 😄👏👏👏
No malarkey found in this comment
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Damn Right!!!
Cobra was completely unattainable before the bill.
PSST...the ACA heathcare exchanges offer short term plans that are at least as adequate if not greater than COBRA with much less hassle.
I recommended this workaround to many an unemployed customer and they all thought it was at least marginally better (read: slightly less expensive and hassle ridden) than Cobra.
Cost prohibitive, for sure. When your income is suddenly gone, and that income wasn't great for saving enough to cover for months and months of emergency healthcare in the first place, that was that. Don't get in an accident or get sick during normal times because going to the doctor is still plenty expensive even with insurance, but uninsured in a pandemic?! Have we bankrupted the hospital systems yet??
Can we all agree, there is nothing that will desuade people from working
Except for the possibility of being exposed to a deadly virus 🤷♀️
@@azusa9963 .. well obviously that but you know what I mean
Americans are seeing how power can be GOOD. I didn't think I'd get emotional but I see courage, persistence and honor. Guys, I really was scared for our country for a long time. PTSD is real.
How can these folks be so intelligent and knowledgeable yet still look so young?
So young and handsome❤️❤️
Favreau is going to be 40 in June. Vietor was effing 40 in August. Lovett is 38. Apparently they all have aging portraits in their attics.
Your thumbnail was disingenuous. The biggest relief in history was when trump left the Whitehouse.
You are absolutely rightl. I was terrified trump would somehow find a way to stay in power. But the good prevailed.yggv
Yikes. Where did that "yiggy" come from at the end of my sentence?
Remember this vote that just happened to get the COVID Relief package bill. Not one single GOP senator voted to pass this bill. Remember this when you step up to vote in 2022 and 2024.
My sons from other mothers. Love you guys. Keep bringing commentary to the people.
The Era of BIG government is back! Hell, YES! 😂
I’m hear for the same reason breaking down the smart news thank you really enjoy you Jon and guests stay safe all 🦋
Thanks for the slice of sanity! And thank you for not showing any clips of Republicans spouting lies and hypocritical nonsense!
Sinema voter and fairly to the left, but Sinema trying to pull off a John McCain moment to TAKE peoples money away was gross
She will be voted out, people are recognizing a protagonist when they see one.
Yeah. I get people who are looking at this completely from the perspective of the outcome and thus don't care about the flourish or trying to get McConnel's attention, but she became the current poster child for a very gross element in the Democratic party.
You joke but I would volunteer for Dan’s campaign and I don’t live in Delaware.
Same here!
Me too!
I want all of them to run for office.
Imagine a world where Tommy and the two Jons are in the Senate fixing stuff 🥰
You guys make the most boring and confusing parts of politics and legislation, understandable and more palatable👏
Glad we can help! :)
"Prime minister Manchin" that's a very fitting title
I think performative outrage from us against Sinema is worthwhile because it lights a fire under her twerking backside. The other no votes are just as bad though.
“The era of big government is back” 😂
Thought I was listening to the West Wing for a second there... lol
The lie of Reaganomics has been defeated with empirical evidence. Increasing subsidies to poor people has up to a five fold benefit on the economy over cutting taxes. Biden and the Democrats may well have just stopped a republican created depression.
I imagine Paul Ryan sucking his thumb in a corner crying
The American Rescue plan is also a fundamental rejection of the Rove doctrine- can’t shrink this down and send it down the drain.
When it comes to Sinema, it looked performative and an homage to McCain but when he famously did it it saved the ACA but she turned down the $15 min wage. He did it that time to help ppl and she did it to hurt ppl. Also, the other Dem AZ senator voted for it. I think the 8 gave each other cover.
Shouldn't the minimum wage be adjusted to the economy of each state since, let's face it- each one acts like it's own country? Also- why isn't there a sliding scale? All I know is -Were the shoe on the other foot, the Republican senate would have 86'd the filibuster and fired the parliamentarian like, yesterday.
This is why it's important to organize LOCALLY instead of relying on the federal government to fix everything. About a half a dozen states have minimum wages in the teens, usually with different scales for urban vs. rural.
States have their own minimum wages, some up to $15 now. But some just go with the ancient $7.25 federal minimum, which is like no minimum.
I don't get why Sinema makes such a big deal over the minimum wage? Like it's already $12 in AZ. Doesn't she want the rest of the US to catch up? Plus there would be a gradual shift to $15, it's not like a light switch that would have people go out of business.
Always well done. Thank you. I really am happy about this Manchin perspective. GETTABLE!
I think they need to raise retirement benefits as well. Though I worked all my adult life as a carpenter, not an unnecessary trade, I'm still only getting under 1200 a month for retirement. You truly have to have everything paid for in your life, to live on that. Luckily I built my own house and it's paid off, so we have a place to live, but it certainly will be a stretch to live on that.
1200/month Is truly miserable. A country like the USA should be doing a lot better than that.
@@thermodynamics458 I agree. We don't put a lot of stock in people who no longer produce revenue. Truly a selfish behavior for,as u say, and we boast, the richest contry in the world.
WTF! I could care less about the thumbs down style of voting or the curtsy...but tapping Mitch McConnel on the shoulder to say "look at me"...that I can not forgive.
A seriously "I think I'm cute being an asshole" act. Including the cheerleader outfit.
Liberals are really a circus
@@TedIsHere2 After 4 years of the DT spectacle, this level of clownsmanship doesn't hold a candle to conservative absurdity
Thank the gods for democratic voters in Georgia! Thank you all!
21:30 I can tell you that Sinema's constituents are pissed. She posted in FB today and got roasted.
She was trying to do a McCain meme and failed
Getting roasted on FB is nothing at all. It will have no effect on anything.
@@thomasdequincey5811 ^^ its stupidity like this that got Trump elected.
@@thomasdequincey5811 It is 'a lot' when that is where a politician tries to get a favorable response.....but is met with the reality of their constituents' anger.
Manchin is the same sort of narcissist as the pumpkin. He LOVES this attention and his moves are designed to maintain it. I'm sure y'all saw the story in which both Democrat and Republican Senators said very simply that they have no idea what he's doing -- he just likes people paying attention to him, is my theory.
At least he voted for the stimulus, which no republicans did
@@demeliou3844 that’s basically like a child learning to use the potty when other kids are still in diapers, but still shitting on the floor when he feels like it - not tremendously advanced. This asshole (and Sinema) love the spotlight and will leave a turd on the kitchen floor if it gets them attention
@@misterderp4566 You’re not wrong but what I said still stands true. If it was up to the Republicans we would be getting $600 billion stimulus or smaller.
@@demeliou3844 thank Jeebus its not up to the Reprobates
"That was very forward thinking placing the Dominion machines in Georgia"
Sidney Powell's head just exploded.
I tend to feel those sorts of jokes from these sorts of people are... not a good idea. It's akin to the Satanic Temple claiming abortion as a religious rite to try to win cases in court. It's funny to us, because we know that it's absurd. But in a world where people actually believe the entire election was rigged by satan worshipping pedophiles and abortion is literally genocide, there's the potential for big, dangerous misunderstandings. And it's not like these are randos ranting on the side of the road; these are people who served in previous administrations; who may be seen as authority figures and "insiders". The wrong person might take that clip out of context, and then suddenly voila, you have #proof that everything was fraudulent because they hashtag-admitted-it. Which again, the rest of us know is idiotic because it was a joke, but if it gathered enough momentum online the context would get lost and left behind.
@@Nihilist_Porcupine I see what you're saying and I share your concern. But i believe the visibility and availability of the context in which the joke was made negates the possibility of someone taking it out of context and claiming it as proof of their conspiracies.
My boyfriend (aka Tommy) is so full of wisdom!
I'm sorry but he's already my husband.
Reality: straight married, lives in a $2.4M house in the Wilshire area east of the tar pits.
You guys are great ♥️♥️🇨🇦♥️♥️
GREAT!!!
Make minimum wage a stand alone bill, pound to the public how it grows gradually overtime (that is where it was lost) and force a vote on just that.
You’re delusional. They don’t WANT to raise the minimum wage so it doesn’t matter what public opinion polls say.
@@Trenton.D - republikkkans do not that is true.
Raise the minimum wage...do it...do it...do it!
No other country that I know of cares what the opposition thinks.
Listening from Ireland 🇮🇪 here....Enjoy Your Loaf America....you had to wait long enough for it, and endure so much under the Other Guy, Thank God Joe Biden is your President caring for All Americans now.
I sleep better at night in Ireland knowing this now (Esp with the American fascism that was defeated at the Ballot box, thnx again to Georgia💙 ) hope you do too now sleep well, and get your vaccines 👍😎.
Just so delighted finally Americans are being cared for
🍷☘️!
Take care and stay safe 😷🌻
Lyla we american appreciate all the cheers from the world now that the orange ogre is out of power! Very encouraging..
So, so happy for all the good this bill is going to do for working class Americans. We should try to find a way to compromise on the min. wage but indexing it to the inflation rate is a must and would really help things in the long run.
THe New Hampshire Restaurant and Lodging Association is powerful in the state. They were both signaling to them that they have their back. Currently we are fighting with a Democratic State Senator who wants to reduce the tipped wage from 45% of minimum wage to 35% of minimum wage.
Jon's Laughter slays me
Thank you for this.
This is why I love watching Crooked Media, there's logical and well-thought action instead of unbridled prejudice for centrists like on OTHER left-wing media streams.
Thanks for an informative and inspiring POD. Issues matter.
This whole legislation package that will help us so much was balanced on a razors edge since last November. I am so happy everything fell in place for this package to become reality.
Tracy really changed history.
The far right was too focused on a non-existent cancellation of Dr. Seuss to focus on the COVID Relief Bill. That certainly is a more important issue than recovering from a massive pandemic (sarcasm).
Other way around: the republicans and the right wing "media" were desperately looking for something to talk about instead of the 'American recovery' bill the Democrats have just delivered.
I worry about all of the people who watch Fox etc who state that only 9% of this bill is actually going to Covid relief??? How do we refute that? I learned so much from you today on what this bill will actually do for all of America! Thank you!
There's plenty of articles out there fact-checking the 9% lie. It's hard to fight such blatant lies but please share articles pushing back on it as much as you can.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/02/fact-check-breaking-down-spending-covid-19-relief-bill/6887487002/
Why does Lovett always wear a baseball cap? He's got a full head of hair!
To keep the sun out of his eyes, obviously.
Yeah, and it's nice and fluffy hair too!
Because it’s cute.
Always good till the last drop 😁Im always here till the end ...thank you for such interesting intelligent content.
Thank YOU for watching til the end! :)
I really miss hearing thoughts/commentary from the whole team on Mondays. Will Dan be coming back?
Dan is always on the Thursday show with Favreau while Jon, Jon, and Tommy handle Mondays. The whole group of four gets together for special episodes tied to big events. :)
Thank you again guys!
Your breakdown of the various parts of the bill was very helpful.
I love Tuesday mornings with Pod Save America ❤
When are you going to run for office?
I definitely support Dan in Delaware!
biden and experience wins. he is the right man at the right moment. he knows what works and what does not. what did i say about biden being a president with a mission. there are times when the federal gov needs to step in and step up and there are times when they should not. there needs to be flexibility and trust between gov and the people
No 2k like he promised and no min wage hike
@@EdiMeanG If you don't like your check, please send it back, or to me...
@@EdiMeanG Ehm, maybe u didnt pass math in school, but 600+1400=2000 every single time. The 2k promise was in connection with the Dec bill, u already got the 600, saying anything else is either bad faith, a complete failure at math or both.
We don't want any filibuster. Sick of it all.
Maybe Republicans would be more likely to contribute constructive ideas if there were no filibuster.
Joe Manchin - filibuster curious 🧐
Minchin wants ‘Green Eggs and Ham’ read out loud to him.
He considers that bipartisan.
OMFG Joe. Really?
Prime Minister Manchin is killing me 😆
i had cobra for only one year when i got hurt and unable to work. after the year i had to pay for evrrything for over a year til if it was now i would have had two yrs
Cobra is not insurance...it is, but the costs are ridiculously high while people are trying to survive on unemployment or disability benefits.
An another addition to my natural anti depression plan.I like our German comrade am up at some ungodly hour but whoooooooooooo using inside voice.
Don't be overjoyed because it comes from.our own money as our taxes. Our money is so.mismanaged.
Here’s the problem, changing the income threshold in hopes of convincing senate republicans but ending up not getting a single vote from their side defeats the very strategy used. If not for Joe Manchin, the income threshold should not have changed
Yes, agreed it nonsensical and naive of Manchin-he’s doing a lot of performative stuff to appear as a maverick but is only weakening our overall position.
Tbh there was talk of taking the very highest earners out of the relief payments anyway.
Reducing the weekly Federal Unemployment benefit from $400 to $300 is devastating. That $100 is the difference between breaking even and staying in debt. For the life of me I don't understand why the House bill didn't propose $600 a week to allow negotiation room. Although the weekly benefit should be $600 like in the CARES act, but $400 or $500 would have been far better than $300.
I agree 100% but one thing that may help $300 stretch a little further is that they will not tax the first $10k of unemployment payments
Government is needed to. check the power of the corporations. How dare republicans complain about the size of this bill when their tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations bill sent the budget into the stratosphere and to what end? Giving those billionaires money they don't even need.
Can we bring senators down to earth...they seem a little too pampered.
First we have to get them away from their delusional cloud.
I'm really happy the republican spin machine didn't manage to torch the public support for this bill is really enjoyable. I assume because Dems didn't give six months of negotiation with republicans who weren't going to vote for it anyway.
And keeping in the direct payments is brilliant. Krugman discussed it as basically "the least important for stimulating the economy but the best for keeping public support"
As someone who works in kitchens, there are a lot of people who can't make it on $15/hour and watch front of house employees take home hundreds in tips every night. We aren't sympathetic to them getting a lower base wage because they take home more every night than we do.
I'm personally against tipping as a process -- I of course tip my servers, but the expectation has become ridiculous. 10% used to be standard, now it's close to 25%. You get asked to tip at fucking Wendy's now. We should take a look at Europe, where if you try to tip at a restaurant in Paris or Copenhagen or Munich, the server will consider it an insult because they get paid enough to feed their families. Everyone deserves a living wage, but my point is that there is resentment in the back of house at a restaurant when we get $50 in tips a week while front of house quadruples that in a night, and then they complain about having to give a portion of that to the back. Until that balance changes, I don't care about front of house workers being paid below minimum because they're still making more than me for the same amount of work, even though I have a set minimum.
Also, the restaurant industry is completely fucked, at least in terms of bigger chains like, say, Chili's or Applebees -- abuse is rampant, people are denied overtime constantly, and owners take advantage of the fact that lower-paid employees can't possibly afford to fight for their rights. I'm going to stop myself from the late-night drunken ranting now, but I have plenty of inside information about this sector if anyone cares.
As someone from across the pond with family who have dealt wih the ups and downs of working in hospitality I have nothing but sympathy for you overworked, underpayed and underappreciated people. God speed sir.
I've seen one "tip jar" that's shared with the whole TEAM at the end of the night. I think it's fair if you all get paid the same but from my experience waitresses have historically been paid 50% less than the back of the house. Be a leader and talk to your boss about it's really working and make suggestions that create equality.
@@debracottrill7989 Right, but that's my point -- a lot of bosses in the industry are corporate types who are more interested in the bottom line than treating employees fairly (on either side of the house), so equity is a no-go for them.
Also, as I said, in my experience it's the front of house that takes home more money than the back, even though the back is paid a higher wage.
It was not just on the checks. If you got a deposit you got a letter with his name too
That COBRA benefit is LIT!🔥💯👏🏾💪🏾✊🏾
Did Jon just say “Prime Minister Manchin” ?
Tommy Vitor is a hologram
I love the bill. We're finally getting the help we need. President Biden and Congress needs to make sure the child credit program becomes permanent. Let's get that child poverty number down to 0%. We have a moral obligation to do it.
The question is how in the world to pay for these bills and the increasing multi trillion dollar debt? Seems the simplest way would be stop the needless billions (or trillions) of excessive military spending, increase taxes for the very rich, and close tax loopholes for hugely profitable corporations that get to claim way less than their fair share earnings. But will politicians (on both sides) ever vote for these changes when those wealthy individuals and corporations are their biggest donors?
Probably a stupid question, but why not tie the corporate tax rate (still 21% in the US, right?) to the $15 minimum wage? So a corp could receive the 21% flat-rate, but only if they pay their staff at least the minimum $15/hr wage. Perhaps it could be a sliding scale depending on the hourly wage provided, but hopefully it would always incentivize corps to pay their staff at least the minimum wage. I’m likely not thinking this through completely.
But you are thinking...sounds like a idea worth considering.
Cos then accountants will manipulate the profits even more to ensure any punitive tax is less than the cost of providing the minimum wage.
"He's our prime minister" haha, love it!
15:30 - to your point, someone should've held off on cancelling Pepe Le Pew until we really needed it
We knew it was a little gross as a child...are you projecting?
@@epiccollision Not projecting. Warner Brothers just announced he was cut from the upcoming Space Jam sequel and won't appear in any other upcoming projects.
@@debbiedoodiedandi Boo!
If you take a drink every time Lovett agrees with the Jons saying “I think that’s right...” you’ll die of alcohol poisoning
I am so very happy for amounts to help the nation's poor children. That being said, and I'm not sure how, but we need to have a real conversation about the number of children all people have and it's impact on the environment. This legislation is fantastic news!
Birth rates are down here in the us. Maybe they'll be a covid increase but generally the rates here in the us are down.
That is actually amazingly easy. Free college education and fund Planned Parenthood. Really, the statistics bear that out.
Low income/education people having too many children could be by giving incentives for sterilization after two kids but it would be seen as an attack on minorities even though the number of white people living in poverty is probably a lot higher than the general public realizes and of course the Catholic Church would fight against it. The long route of increasing college education for poor people is probably more socially acceptable and would alleviate many social problems including ignorant voters voting against their interests.
@@subgirl3739 the overall birth rate might be down but the problem is low income low education people having multiple births. I could Google it but I'm confident the statistics will show that while middle class birth rates are down significantly and people are waiting later or opting out of reproducing the numbers are still very high for young poor people.
@@pakde8002 There is absolutely no reason to treat people as if they were cattle or dogs! What you claim is a long route is actually something that starts working almost immediately.
"... maybe it'll be another Dr. Seuss related crisis..." 🤣😂🤣 @35:22
I agree with lovett great idea to put dominion there!
Jon Lovitt: you are SO fun
Don't let personalities get to you: just more fodder for Saturday
Tip minimum wage should be gone
Prince Philip had his heart operation in an NHS hospital. Megan had her child in a private hospital.
The Fred Flintstone idea😂
Is Manchin our Susan Collins?
Mitt Romney
Mr. Favreau, where's your baseball cap?
This is a thing of amazement. ☺
Joe Manchin is not a Democrat. We’re talking about him now the way “we’ incessantly talked about Agent Orange. He’s getting his publicity. We’re feeding him.
Now if Biden can forgive student loans OR reform higher education costs, or at minimum keep the 0% Trump-originated interest "cut" going, that'd be 👌
💙💙💙
Is there any way to vary wage based on the cost of living in each state? Might get moderates on board while helping people in higher cost of living states. $15 is not enough depending on where you live (and according to manchin, too much for West Virginia)
can't figure out why it is not like that ( 12-18 by county depending on cost of living, averages 15 and could be phased in faster).
Of course there's a way. The minimum wage needs to be codified. Even Indonesia where I currently live has an annual minimum wage review based on economic realities in the various provinces and even according to economic areas inside each province. They also have direct elections for president. And police are not allowed to use deadly force except in extreme situations. They are legally required to aim for the lower leg if they have to use their guns, which is rare because nobody has a gun except for the police and military.
I never thought living in a developing country would open my eyes to how primitive the USA is. It's truly heartbreaking.
Yes, you tell your STATE GOVERNMENT to raise the minimum wage. Not everything can or should be handled at the federal level.
@@elizabethhenning778 There are states that set theirs to the federal number. Some are at $7.25 an hour.
The federal government already does pay that way. Base wage for a grade, then different % additions for various regions. So the mechanism, %s, and regions are already figured out. I do think the base could be say $13-14 and then it would be $16 or $17 in expensive regions.
It's such crap that they are going to raise the wage incrementally over time when it's been 12 f'ing years, and $15/ hr. doesn't even allow you to pay rent in virtually any American city.
I saw a meme and even shared it. It said, put the minimum wage at $17.76 and call it freedom pay. I know it is just a stunt... but.. why the fuck are we not taking advantage of this kind of manipulative rhetoric?? AND make sure it is indexed to cost of living.
Is the bill truly still at $1.9T? Some benefits were scaled back after making it through the Senate. I was confused why the number is staying consistent if benefits were scaled back.
Two big reasons:
1. The Minimum wage loss isn't included in the value, since it's not technically a 'price' of the bill. That's partly why the parliamentarian argued it couldn't be included: yes, the assessment found it would increase the deficit by $54 billion, but the government wasn't paying that right now, as part of the bill: it was a result of the bill's effects on those losing work and needing Welfare. So the biggest 'loss' of the bill wasn't in the numbers.
2. As long as the scaled down benefits were worth less than, with rounding, 70ish billion, they won't move the needle. If the bill was 1.94, and is now 1.86, those numbers would both still be rounded to 1.9. Like, that move to lower the payment threshold only saved 12 billion. The lowering of unemployment payments was countered with "but we're not taxing some of the benefits, and they'll last an extra month", so I think it ended up neutral, in that I can't find any notes on how much it affected the price tag.
That's some people's frustration with the "moderate' stance being taken by Manchin: 12 billion out of 1.9 Trillion is 6/10s of one percent of the bill. He made sure several million people who DID get a bill under Trump now AREN'T, so he can brag about dropping the bill by less than 1 percent.
22:00 stay hydrated!!
As an Ohio Democrat, I was kind of dismissing Portman's tweets as the bill being filled with "Democratic wishlists". But after watching this podcast and seeing how giddy the crew is, I fear he was right. This wasn't just a COVID bill, although it was advertised as such. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of everything you guys discussed. It's just interesting, is all.
It's definitely reason to celebrate: www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/02/fact-check-breaking-down-spending-covid-19-relief-bill/6887487002/
Hey, if Manchin is gettable, why isn’t Biden getting him for minimum wage? It’s a change that affects electability for every single Democrat in Congress.
Who's said that Manchin is "gettable"? And anyway 57 (It's 58) Senators voted against the $15 minimum wage.
@@thomasdequincey5811 John Lovett said it... in this video... multiple times.