Trump Banned From Social Media As FBI Warns Of More Violence | Pod Save America
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- The fallout continues from last week’s Trump-inspired attack on the U.S. Capitol, as the House prepares to impeach Donald Trump for the second time, and the President’s personal Twitter account is banned forever. Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett and Tommy Vietor discuss the failures of the Capitol Police and potential consequences for the president, Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, and House Republicans for voting against Joe Biden's election certification. Then, they discuss Trump's ban from Twitter, Facebook and ...Pinterest, as well as Parler being taken off of Amazon Web Services.
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This pod is like therapy for me
For me too. The venting feels so good. I can yell and curse with them over this absolute insanity.
Same 💙
Same!
Same...
and I'm not even American!
Ugh same. Thank you guys for comfort
In a shock turnaround the Mexicans are asking if they can pay for the wall and the Canadians are saying they would very much like one too.
Understandable 😂😂
Naw, Canadians and Mexicans aren't stupid and we just watched Trump's army of idiots climb walls
@@pattygould8240 lol! Funny, but not funny.... 😆😮😧
Winner of the comment section ...
Haha, I am Canadian and my mom has been making the joke about a northern border wall for four years 😂
We must hold every single person and politician who was behind this accountable. No "turning the page" or "moving forward", these people are anti-American and we must not let them skate free nor serve in our gov't.
Impeaching and indicting is how we move forward.
@@kaleilw ooooomlpppopp
Totally agree with you JJ.👍🏼
What about all the BLM/antifa riots that have been going on for the last 200 days? 50 people killed, thousands injured, BILLIONS of dollars in damage. YOU are the very anti-american communists that you're referring too. And the capitol riot? Half of the perps were Antifa disguised as Trump supporters.
@@seppukun208 WudddaboutwuddaboutwuddaboutwuddaboutwuddaboutLieLieLieLieInsultInsultInsultInsult. Nice try troll.
I'm Canadian and I'M outraged!
Thank you!! I am also, and my outrage hasn't lessened either.
Thank you neighbor
Thank you 💜. This is insanity.
Fellow Canadian here and I'm with you! Unfortunately we have our own share of moronic racist sedition supporters.
@@Noellep they are everywhere. Countries need to come together and have a united front in dealing with these morons.
Chad Wolf (homeland security) just resigned...he needs to be held accountable!!!!
He resigned so that he can join Trump's victory lap around America this week. If Trumpism violently takes over America over the next few weeks or months, then Chad Wolf can be assured a high profile position in President-4-life Trump's fascist administration. This is exactly the position of Heinrich Himmler in 1933 Germany; waiting in the wings, ready to serve. The entire world is watching, I wonder what the world will do when fascism takes over America, as it now surely will.
The whole "don't impeach Trump bc unity" thing is so insane. Imagine during WWII politicians saying "don't do anything to the Nazi's. We don't want to make them angrier", or "I think Hitler has learned his lessons. He's probably really bothered by what his followers have done".
Thats EXACTLY how the rest of europe reacted to what germany was doing at the time lol
@@Ozterkvlt And America! We didn’t give a fuck until their ally attacked us and we nuked their ally knowing they would surrender anyways so suddenly to not seem like the bad guys who have all kinds of civilians horrible fallout affects and ruined cities we had to pretend to care and hold the Nuremberg trials. Now today in history classes (before college, I will say American university is pretty good and open to free thought and truth but not high school ) snow Hitler more sympathy than mao and Stalin... which like not a fan of them either and I don’t think we should pretend like they’re real communists at all, but I had high school teachers make us try to get into the mindset of Hitler and feel bad for the nazis.. talking ab “gulags” that weren’t even in the history books yet barely the real holocaust
Neville Chamberlain is remembered as the guy who let Hitler keep going. I hope all these people go down in history as the same. I mean I really hope nothing more happens but I'm not holding my breath.
@@Ozterkvlt peace for our time
@@ummygummy5346 "I have in my hand a piece of paper...."
I have loved all of the individual shows. But the three of you guys together is a great combination. I look forward to the Monday Pod Save Americas more than almost any other media I consume.
Tommy: They were outgunned, outmanned
Me: OUTNUMBERED OUTPLANNED
There was clearly very little in the way of planning. They got in and didn't know what to do next. We're so lucky there weren't any intelligent people in that mob.
Same
ME.
@@pattygould8240 That was a Hamilton reference. Also if you have the materials and ability to erect gallows and there are people moving in military formation as well as carrying around flex cuffs and military gear you do NOT suffer from a lack of planning.
@@carmendebenedictis-larue6250 thanks for letting me know about the reference. We'll have to disagree on what constitutes a lack of planning.
Side note: Parler will just have to pull itself up by its own bootstraps now.
"It seems like, as with all things in the past four years, there is a mix of malevolence and incompetence." Lovett
No impeachment is a message that a president can do this shit. Must impeach!
No silly putting it off 100 days (3 months) before sending it to the Senate. If the Senate is interested in getting anything done they can get through it in a few days, keep this in the news so more people will think about what happened, and get Republicans on the record voting against conviction. ASAP, not months from now. James Clyburn is wrong.
@@emjayay McConnell has already stated that he will block any subsequent vote until at least Jan 19th.
Given that and that the balance is about to change in the Senate there is a good case for the House impeaching (so that that part at least gets done) but holding articles until Grim Reaper Mitch can't block it and there is a functional Dem majority.
@@telectronix1368 The play-by-play you’ve described all makes sense - except that the guy with the codes for the nukes is a madman. Or a better description: he’s a wild animal feeling like he is trapped in a cage. Inaction on this for even just a day is extremely dangerous. Although to be fair, taking action is equally fraught.
Agreed.
tR*** needs to be prevented from *ever* running for office -or- for serving as a valid source of support for anyone else -- and impeachment can do that.
@@markd.9538 Well, sure, it would be better to have him removed from office immediately but given Mitch's lie that he (heavy sigh) just.....can't possibly vote until the 19th then one upside is it would be the new senate balance that could then vote.
Multiple days in a row without a single Trump tweet. In the blessed silence, I can feel my brain cells regenerating.
Trumpers are going through withdrawals.
@@MsFunnybags Trump is going through withdrawals.
Haha yeah same
Make DC a state.
Rudy losing his law licence sounds like a fun twist.
Does he still count as a lawyer at this point?
@@telectronix1368 he’s like a law troll, when you need to assert illegal things about your case you hire people like Rudy, no morals, no integrity all hubris!
Did Rudy ever have a law licence he's too stupid ffs
@@epiccollision Rudy is more like the negative space around corruption than a functioning lawyer.
@@telectronix1368 Well, he is the very epitome of the 'crooked lawyer' cliché; he'd give ambulancer chasers a bad name.
*Thanks, Twitter. You finally did the right thing.*
Yeah, at least five years too late.
Banned on Pinterest?? How will he organize his golden toilet moodboards?
I heard he tried to create an onlyfans and onlyfans banned him.
Omg! I love you!
Do you remember the 2016 armed takeover of the National Mahleur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon by the Bundy Gang? And the Bundy's got off. That frightened me then because it emboldened the militia crazies. Here we are. I'm terrified these idiots will get off again. We can't let that happen! Keep up your messaging in support of impeachment. Thank you💕
Definitely a desperate need for a full, independent inquiry.
The yes God forbid we worry about the optics of the National Guard protecting the national capital.
That was one of the more insane excuses.
And, hey, there was only **the entire US Congress** in the building at the time.
@@telectronix1368 and the entire line of succession!
@@habibti320 I wonder who was the Designated Survivor.
Them and......failure Trump. 😯
@@telectronix1368 I dont think there is one during the certification
Let's adopt DC and Puerto Rico and make them states. If you guys can tell us what we need to do I am sure we can get it done.
I understand that the first step is going to be giving the DC mayor ability to call up the National Guard without going through the DoD.
@@TheSuzberry improving access to heavily armed soldiers doesn't improve political issues.
State governors can mobilize the national guard in their state. I was never a big fan of D. C. Statehood, but I have changed my mind. If the president can stop the D. C. National guard from responding, then we need statehood to give D. C. local power over their Guard.
DC does need to become a state along with Puerto Rico-2 statehoods at a time
Canada is considering The Proud Boys organization to be listed as a Terrorist group. Anyone know the progress made with this consideration? I agree it is a good thing, and appropriate for this group to be on such a list.
The NDP is circulating a petition if you haven't signed yet.
The proud boys don’t really play here we have laws against hateful speech, so they don’t get the same exposure up here, last time they showed up it turned into a military investigation and members were booted from the military. America is the like cat nip to fascists, your freedom of speech isn’t all its cracked up to be.
And blm isn’t a terrorist group
@@controllanoah5188 correct! And it should never be called one either
@@alexbrewster1923 hey dude they caused billions of dollars worth of damage
So torn about the capital police. Clearly some were acting heroically. Others need to have charges against them, including the leadership. They are also in part responsible for the loss of the fallen officer.
I am also wondering if the police who were getting along were doing it as a measure of crowd control. Either scenerio is possible here. Their lives were threatened.
@@jacquelineleitch7050 The dude who was helping the lady down the stairs was in no danger. It is really hard not to contrast it with the number of peacefully protesting black women who were assaulted by police last summer. As Joe Scarborough put it these same cops shout at congressmen if they even jaywalk.
You need to read this article:
www-buzzfeednews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/emmanuelfelton/black-capitol-police-racism-mob?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16104508444534&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeednews.com%2Farticle%2Femmanuelfelton%2Fblack-capitol-police-racism-mob
@@jacquelineleitch7050 Their lives were threatened so they took selfies and helped people down stairs?
My point is that probably there is infiltration and probably there are terrified cops, and some terrified cops could have some good survival skills.
"Catch me on Parler" Well THAT aged well!😆
It is my understanding that if he is impeached and convicted he can never run for office again. That is my reason for wanting him impeached.
There could be a resolution (or vote or......whatever the term is) in the Senate specifically for "....and he can not hold any elected office in the future" but if it needs a 2/3 majority I don't see it passing.
Yes and the deranged idea that somehow it's not worth the time to Impeach him is wrong. He has to be held responsible and the country needs to know that he is a criminal and is subject to the law . . . As is his lawyer.
Is it only me that can easily see the relationship between this narrative and a sexual assault narrative? Asking (as it was done thirty years ago) the woman to forgive and move on. Hummmm!
Keep the marriage, think about your children, he is not going to do it again...
American society and justice system reinforces the wrong notion that white males , whatever age, should be given the consideration of the “harm” to their future and reputation whenever they do something vile (rape, spouse/partner abuse, pedophilia, etc). So many excuses are given as just a “mistake” in judgement and should be given more lax judgement. Need to look any further than the Portland shooter Rittenhouse!
Yes I did. That and the idea that if we pursue justice that we will make his supporters mad and they may have no choice but to hurt us and we will be riling them up and upsetting them when they now just want to move on and think of puppies and sunshine 🙄 I had a friend in an abusive marriage and she was also told my him and his family that by filing for divorce and pressing charges for his last vicious assault that she would make him mad and be at fault for anything he did and that he wanted to put the past behind him so how dare she upset him and his family with all this. I have seen all the same tactics that abusive partners use in Donald Trump for years and in the Republican Party at large.
Well put.
Trump: "I want to see Biden in prison."
Biden: "Why would Donald Trump want me to visit him in prison?"
👍😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
That made my day XD
😂😂😂😂
Funny As Fuck. My theory on Trumps hold on to power was simply because he doesn't want to spend the last yrs of what would just about pass as a life in the big house. His been buying his way out of incarnation for what must be at least 50 yrs of his twisted tales of wheeler dealer business man with a tan. Living in the shadow of a father who was the master planner, leaving a barely compus mentus son trying to be someone who believes he is educated and clever to follow the footsteps of a business magnet. This could never be due to the fact that Father Trump was just as crooked. "Mirroring others qualities leaves you obliged to carry their faults" that's what I say. At least he will blend in with his orange jumpsuit attire.
The three brightest young men on any podcast! Thank you men!
Thank YOU for watching!
The Best and Brightest for sure👏👏👏
LOVE Lovett’s summation of Parler: “If you own the libs in the woods and no one hears it, did it really happen?”
I for one can’t wait to see how history views the Sedition Caucus.
I love calling the invertebrate Republicans the "Sedition Caucus"....
I think they will be seen in the same light as the Southern politicians who favored and supported secession in the lead up to the Civil War.
He doesn’t realize it yet, but I think Josh Hawley just ended his political career.
@@andrewmastin4312 he doesn't have enough brain cells to realise it
The new law needed is DC statehood. The Mayor did not have authority!!
Food for thought: Jurors' decisions are anonymous, in part for the safety of the jurors. Should impeachment votes also become anonymous? You can convincingly argue that senate members are putting themselves in danger by voting for impeachment. And this will give republican senators the cover they need to do the right thing.
They broke their oaths...throw em out!
Rudy should also be tried for insurrection. He's adding fuel.to the fire.
While I definitely agree that Rudy is also a guilty party here, he's pretty much a private citizen and idk if he can actually be charged with anything without imposing on his right of freedom of speech. Maybe we could settle for disbarring though?
And disbarred.
the power of social media is causing external harm and we need to start talking about digital reform in 2021.
Notice how Twitter seems *almost* peaceful and serene now that he's been booted? Almost being the operative word.
They purged Q anon and others. I guess the actual real world violence finally scared them enough to act
@@gubberfuck Sad it took that much for them to finally act but better late than never. TH-cam on the other hand is a disgrace allowing so many morons to push the lies & make a buck.
If you can be made to believe the absurdities then you can be made to commit atrocities.....Voltaire
I don't believe it was incompetence. Who does really?
Not me!
The law that would have changed things would be a law that allows the Mayor to call out the DCNG on an emergency basis without approval from the Pentegon. Or DC statehood.
DC statehood sounds good.
Making it easier to call in the national guard is not a good solution. Punishing those who prevented it being sent in is the solution.
@@nickguy8037 yeah, that's not gonna change anything.
@@stephenferry3017 it might.
Better than immediately turning to guns in situations where they are not a good solution.
love it when I refresh my feed and see a fresh upload, I'm always late to these
a real patriot would turn in whoever they know was in that Capital building.
If they had a phone on them technology will ID them. Might not happen immediately but they will be caught
They've managed to turn the words patriot and Christian into dirty words.
It is unbelievably awesome to hear truth from honest people. I love you so much. Be blessed in all your endeavors.
Same to you!
It IS time to unite. Unite by standing up to seditionists in the boldest way possible.
I’m not saying this to be difficult.... I just think it might be interesting. After Trump has been out of office for a month or whatever.... it might be fun to see if an entire episode can happen without mentioning his name. Or limit it to 5 minutes or something.
It’s not you.... it’s just a day I dream in the future. 🥰
Oh trust, it'll definitely happen (and happen often) as soon as he isn't president anymore :)
@@podsaveamerica I can’t wait. 🤓
Stop calling them zip ties. They are zip tie handcuffs.
They're just not gonna let y'all have a moment's rest, are they?
90% of me watches because of the content. The other 10% is to look at Tommy 😬
He changed rooms.
They're all gorgeous 😻
Like, it's weird
@@JackAShepherd haha I think they’re all good looking but Tommy is next level lol.
@@JackAShepherd Favreau’s my flavour!! ;)
Lovetts my favorite, handsome and Smart💙💙🌈
Better to impeach now and then move forward for Biden.
Love you guys.
It is so rich, asking the dems to go easy on trump while almost 200 of them refuse to acknowledge Biden's election. So f-ing funny.
I cancelled my Facebook & Twitter accounts b/c I don’t like their policies regarding disinformation. I’m on no social media platforms except TH-cam b/c I don’t have TV & this is how I get my news.
Taking a pass on impeachment/accountability says these people are not held to the same laws that we are.
You guys are like salve on an open wound...you help quiet our fears, you provide valuable information so we know what the phuck is going on in gov't but more importantly through all the darkness, you always give us hope that things can change. And you handsome bastards are funny as hell too! Thank you Pod Save America for everything you do...💖
We need to be clear that law enforcement was complicit!!!!!! Accomplices to murder and insurrection, if they knew about this beforehand and did NOTHING!!!!
The MI Capital Commission voted unanimously today to ban open carry of firearms inside the capital building. A big turnaround from their position from fall of 2020. Open carry is still allowed outside the capital building. I don't know, is this progress?
Anyone who has dealt with domestic violence can tell you that no matter how perfect you act, how well you calibrate your behavior, how softly you walk on egg shells, they will STILL be angry and violent. Why? Because they're abusers. It's what they do. So go by the rule of law, let punishment be swift and just, and let them be angry. They're gonna be mad no matter what. But pursue justice and insist that our democracy uphold certain standards.
Thanks for calling out my congressman, Lee Zeldin. He's a traitorous disgrace and I'm so humiliated. 😐
Thanks for the youtube posts! It's generally the easiest way for me to catch your stuff. Stay safe
Our pleasure! :)
Lovely to see you guys
The security leadership didn’t fail to plan - they planned to fail. They knew what was coming, and they wanted the insurrection to succeed.
If they were smart they have those damn capitals close. There is no need to have those Capitol buildings open when they can do their bidding over zoom at least during these dangerous times.
That’s terrifying; basically the fascism got so out of hand all your public buildings should be closed .
Keep lying and you think you have unrest now wait and see it will be to late 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@elliemccarthy3487 Or......during a pandemic the govt should find ways to work around the usual "people physically in the same room".
It’s another way in which Republicans are disconnected from reality. I saw a Congresswoman write that she tested positive for COVID yesterday after being confined in a safe space with Republicans who refused to wear masks.
Just noticed Don Jr. deleted his live stream backstage video from his Twitter in which he had Trump closely watching the protestors on multiple screens with Ivanka and had Kimberly dancing. Interesting! Scared much?
Yah that was something insane to watch.
Thank you gentlemen!
where have you brillant men been. Can somebody come and see this? SaveAmerica
Another amazing informative episode, easily my favorite podcast. Thanks guys!
Thanks for watching! :)
Because of that officer, he definitely gave members of congress timecto get out.
We spend how much on intelligence
Plz don’t forget Alabama’s senator who thinks there are three branches of government - the administration, House, and Senate. He has no idea the judicial branch is an equal branch of government.
You have such great insight and analysis - love you all
Someone needs to make a cartoon of a Twitter bird smashing a a twisted tea “BANNED” in Trump’s face.
Let everyone see who will and won't support impeachment.
Going to be difficult to disown him later if you vote against.
Exactly! Those that vote to not impeach should be ON RECORD
Good article in the NYT about all the companies that are not only censoring Trump, they are refusing to donate to any GOP congressperson who objected to the certification during this election. Mildly encouraging.
This could very easily have turned into, "Night of the Long Knives." If this was coupled with a foreign attack, which is not unrealistic, the military would have had a hard time dealing with the lose of the majority of elected officials. This could easily have tipped America into a dictatorship. Many have been voicing such concerns, but in every instance Trump and his mob were not taken seriously. If the lesson is not learned now, the opportunity to avoid dictatorship may end.
listen - when my company has big projects I work overtime for no extra pay so the next month the senate and house needs to work over time. period that is the job. work over time
Biden gets his agenda and we get impeachment. just do it both
Amen!
I love these 3👏👏👏👏👏
Nice one Lovett. 23:49 ..."Argue from a shared set of facts" is a great start.
Good to see young generation with there thinking caps on. keep it up you guys. Good job.
Tommy’s new office looks good.
🙂👍🏼
I always wondered how they kept their bedroom sooo pristine!
"We cannot let ourselves be held hostage by a bunch of domestic terrorists."?! Wtf happened to America....
The right wing happened.
says "They were outgunned.....and outmanned."
My brain against my will: OUTNUMBERED OUTPLANNED.
*I have been through those same doors at the capitol. Its air port security times ten and the place is a maze. Those insurrectionists walked right in and knew exactly where to go. HOW* ?
From Ireland
Re sectarian violence very hard to stop.
Absolutely.
You just gave me chills.... 🤤
@@heatherm2140
It really is though.
Even when you had ceasefires any small thing would set it all off again.
Ireland is very grateful to America, in particular the Democrats, for the crucial role it played in bringing peace to our island.
Sectarian conflict and civil wars are the worst because it's people fighting within the same country and the effects longlasting and bitter and sad.
Of course America knows this. It had a civil war.
I wish you all the best.
I reckon the commentators are right in the video. This has to be stood up to. People have to be made a accountable for their actions.
Biden/Harris will need a lot of people around them that they can trust completely.
At least the Irish had a real enemy not an imagined one.
@@jacquelineleitch7050
True.
@@jacquelineleitch7050 --yeah, the other Irish. Love your brother
Can those elected officials be fined for not upholding the Constitution?
These people are in positions of public trust. If they break their oaths of office, hit them where it hurts: loss of position, pay, perks, and pensions.
And my 2 granddaughters will be voting in 2024. They WONT forget!!
When they took down the American flag, that should have been it right there. These people have been allowed to take over two capital buildings now.
I've been waiting forever already guys. Welcome back.
Twice bitten twice shy. Impeached twice!
At least we finally have people we can legally fill Guantanamo Bay with!
Guys, is Tommy Vietor (secretly) the funniest Crooked Media host?!
I'm sorry, I love you, Jon Lovett!
I almost forgot how it felt to be one of the first ones to the party.....woo feels nice!
🤗👏 I was just commenting on JFavs Twitter feed about seeing this on TH-cam... 😊 thank you! I really needed this POD today☺️
You are so welcome!
Since this is the emergence of a civil war, the first thing to do - and that has always been in all wars - is to cut off the enemy's communication lines. Keep those lunatics off all platforms
You forgot spears, crutches, fire extinguishers, .....
So disturbing omg
Right. And real pitchforks.
@@skonther0ck really?? I didn't see that in any of the clips I saw- but it was all so hectic.... JUST CRAZY!
Been waiting for this!
Fomenting insurrection and discontent is not a first amendment issue. Once you’ve done it once you can do it again in the space of a few moments, so short of curating Trumps Twitter feed a ban was absolutely necessary.
Would it be fair to say, though, that other groups have fomented discontent and even threatened “revolution” and not only did they do it with the blessing of the left and the media, but never had their feeds banned? Just trying to remain fair and objective here.
@@Thaisithais I think it would be fair to say some defended and justified some of the BLM protest looting and whatnot, which was bad, in mine and most rational Americans minds... and absolutely shouldn’t have been condoned. And if it was or continued threats were being made, they should’ve also been banned or removed. However, when the people who hold the levers of power are the ones doing it, I think that takes on a different meaning. Especially when the people who are being excited into action are being lied to and told something happened for which there is no rational evidence. I’m not going to pretend to equivalate looting a Target to storming the capitol and attempting to capture and execute lawmakers, though. These are two different things completely. Is it fair to say anyone who calls for violence or looting should be removed from public discourse? I would say yes. Are these events on two completely different levels? Yes. So, while I think anyone calling for violence or violent revolution should be banned from Twitter, Facebook, etc... there’s just not really a comparison between the riots/protests in June andJuly and storming the Capitol a few days ago.
@@Ohhelmno I agree with you that these events are on different levels. But when it comes to the premise of violence itself, there seem to be wildly different standards applied to the left than the right. What I hear conservative friends complain about the most is precisely the hypocrisy with which events are portrayed. This pisses a lot of people off and to be honest I have noticed it myself on more than one occasion.
I couldn’t agree more with you when you say it’s important to note when the people who hold the levers of power are the ones doing it. But then again, I think it’s also fair to point out that both parties have power. I would dare say in a way the Democrats have more, even if the Republicans held the presidency. The left largely controls the majority of MSM, higher education institutions and the culture in this country at this time. This gives me the impression sometimes that they do the things they themselves condemn without worrying that they will be portrayed as the wrong side, ever. So, I promise I’m trying to remain as neutral as possible, but who should we fear most, the party that is calling for equal treatment and being bludgeoned from every single angle, or the party that can do no wrong? I don’t like Trump...but sometimes I felt that the other side of the balance was pretty frightening as well.
@@Thaisithais yeah, I mean I agree that the rules should be applied equally. I don’t have much control over that, personally, but I can see where some of the anger comes from. I just wish we could all debate from a shared set of facts, as opposed to how things are now where the two sides see completely different worlds and hear completely different things. Again, I think most Americans would agree that the rules should be applied evenly, but all I can do is point out where I see it. Nobody should be allowed to be violent or burn or loot or steal no matter what side they belong to, but as we’ve both said, we also can’t pretend when people play whataboutism that every situation is equivalent, and just because one thing was overlooked doesn’t mean the other should be.
The lack of a briefing from any government agency about these events is disconcerting. I can think of only two possible explanations - neither or which are good. (1) They are knee-deep in investigation, arrests and counter-terrorism investigations while anticipating another round of violent insurrection within the next week. and/or (2) Trump loyalists in the upper ranks of those agencies are failing to do their job either by neglect or out of deliberate conspiratorial intent.
The Big Money Behind The Big Lie in recent The New Yorker - very frightening!
I thought Jon was going to say the 'Series Finale of the United States' (in the beginning of this ep). *lolsob*
Where is Stephen Miller in all of this?
You guys are the best. Thanks for hanging in there.
Thanks for hanging in there with us!
Love you guys. Thank you for your insights into this horrible time.