How I RUINED My GT-R In 4 Easy Steps!! *BIG MISTAKE*
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Lesson Learned... My Nissan GT-R wasn't doing too well after this decision :( It really was ruined! So after driving two weeks on the Falken Azenis FK510 tires with my 600 WHP Nissan GT-R, I slowly realized they were absolutely horrible for performance! On the plus side, the ride was super smooth and quiet.
Handling in the car was completely ruined. High speeds the car was super unstable and floaty. It felt like the tires were made of balloons. Steering was incredibly vague too! The steering response was delayed and just made it so hard to take any tight turns. When hitting the brakes hard in a turn, the car would understeer and oversteer at the same time! It was scary to be honest! I had no faith in taking this car on any type of track or mountain road. I'd definitely die taking the car on a track.
I was blown away with how bad the performance was. This really shocked me. I talked with so many GTR owners and it looks like a ton of people run oversized tires on the GTR. Even 335's on the rear and 285's up front. So I'm not sure if it was the wider tires or just the brand. But the Michelin Pilot 4S tires are a night and day difference. I went with the OEM sizes just to play it safe. And since these were $1,500, I didn't want to spend more lol. The handling is back in the car and it actually has performance once again!
I can't believe how tires can completely make or break the handling characteristics in a car. It really is obvious since they literally connect the car to the road. But this was a learning experience for sure! In the 9 years I've had my license, I've never needed to replace tires on my cars. So there is a first for everything.
I have received my refund from Tire Rack. So everything went well with the return of the Falken tires to go with the Michelin tires.
Never try and save money on tires. Just stick with the absolute best performance brands out there if you have a high performance car. If you do have a 'normal' car, these Falkens would actually be great since they were comfortable. But they sucked for high performance.
Hopefully we all learned something in todays video! :)
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That wrap is for sure one of them.
the main one
Lol agreed
Lol
*Clapping*
Lol i like it
The wrap ruined it 😭
That wrap screams "fratboy coming".
Tires, like shoes are the total foundation that always seems overlooked because of price
I definitely learned that after all this!! So happy to have the car back to all its glory!
Greg Taylor no doubt.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed did you try changing tire pressures with the Falkens. If tire pressures are too high the steering will feel vague and unresponsive.
I'm not sure what the hate on the wrap is, I personally thought it was fun. Also, this has been my favorite channel the past month or so, you've shown me when I can do if I can put my mind to things and save up for stuff. Thank you for what you do!
That’s crazy how much difference those Falcon tires made. And not for the better. Glad you are on Michelins and are getting the responsive steering you expect. I know you are pleased! Vrooom!!!
I was blown away!
The cheap come out expensive. Go for quality
Buys cheap tires, bitches that the tires are garbage, shocking
Great that you were able to return them. Always get the right tires on a performance car.
i had the same problem with my first gen NSX when i got a set of TOYO's from a local dealer. i told him the cars handling went from an NSX to a Taurus in one set of tires. He took them back and I ordered Michelin Pilot Sports and the problem was solved. Totally understand where you are coming from. My GT-R has Michelin Super Sports on them, got a great deal on a set of 2012 rims and tires....
Yeah it was crazy. I was not expecting to see this ind of difference
Thank you. This answered my question perfectly. And makes perfect sense.
No problem man!! Learned a lot with this experience!
Though this video is a bit old, it was great to watch. I was on the fence of purchasing Falken's for my R35. I wanted to try them out and see how they felt....I currently have Michelin 4S's on stock wheels. They are awesome. I also have had experience with the the Michelin Pilot SS on my previous Car (C7 Z06). Also a great tire..... Traded it in for a GTR a month ago, and just bought some black edition wheels. I"m going to stay away from Falken, and get some fresh 4S's. The video really helped me in my decision making process. Thank You!
Yeah fro what I learned with this, performance cars need the best of the best. Just not worth it. This is my first time having to buy new tires, and I learned a ton about how important they are!!
Saw this parked in my Plex. Snapped a few photos and subbed! Keep it up the good informed content!
Thanks for the support! We have a lot more videos on the way!
Maybe the tyre pressures were too high with the Falkens. The same tire pressures will make the same car preform differently with the same tire. I guess you didnt try using different pressures with the Falkens. Not that I think Falkens are better than Michilens.
I agree with your experience with the Azenis FK150. I have them on my Q50 RS but only on the rear and paired with Conti's ECS in front. I wanted to reduce understeer of the car and this combo works well for me. I must say though that it took 1k miles before the Fk150 settled in. They aren't as spot on as PS4Ss though and I sometimes find myself making corrections on certain corners and hard braking since the rears are more eager to step out than they were on PS4S.
I mean no disrespect with this statement. But braking, when done specifically for cornering should be completed pre turn in to a corner. Any car will swing out under braking while cornering.
I only mention this because I've been to a handful of amateur racing courses.
Keep up the awesome content. I appreciate your videos.
Yeah I know you should setup before a turn. But in this video I was demonstrating how the tires were very unstable. So I was throwing things at the car to relay how these tires took away the handling ;)
Should of done 285 squared or 285/295 or 285/335. I run 285/335, just perfect.
Silly question - why didn't you just replace the tires with the stock Dunlops? Cost or trying to find something better? (R35 owner BTW)
When I bought the car it had Michelins on it and we've used that tire in the past on previous vehicles. I really like them and so just stuck with the brand!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed there's a new version of the Dunlop tire on the 2020 Nismo... when I have to replace I'm thinking of going that way! Michelin is my tire of choice on everything else but Nissan was particular with that tire design on the R35
I can’t agree more with your experience on high speed with these tires. They came with my gtr and they feel horrible at 80+mph
Yeah these tires sucked! Felt like they were just bouncy! Did not feel safe on the highway making lane changes. Glad I have normal tires again!
255 and 285 is usually the best set up 👌🏼
Had R88R in rear, very loud tire! when you go around 40-50mph,
Agree, wrong tire sizes will do that, mess up the traction-etc when I went with different wheels, I put 285 front and 325 rear. IF i would put 315s in rear, again, car will act weird- You can also turn on TORQUE Split on the display, and while driving and letting of the gas, there should be no lines going up, if they do, it means tire sizes are off :) traction will act with the diff
Oh wow thats crazy. I'm glad I was able to return the tires and go back to OEM sizes. Ill definitely stick with that for a while. But next wheels I'll go wider on my new wheels and just make sure diameter is OEM. I'll probably stick wit the Michilens tho since they are cheaper then the 888 and last longer. I don't need crazy traction lol
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yep I went with Michelin pilot sport cup 2 not bad tire and better for rainy days then 888r, my Rohana wheels are 35/285 and 30/325 rear. It's harder to find 30/325 tires in that size since summer is around the corner. And same. I'm not pushing crazy power
How much power does your car make ? I see people run Huge tires in the back with no problems and it confuses me ! What is the issue ?
It sounds a lot like you were getting some bad tire flex.
I know you said other GT-R owners were running up to 335 on the stock wheel but perhaps it wasn't fully captured that it does result in a lot of tire flex.
Also, not sure if the Falcons have reinforced sidewalls or not, but that could play a role.
Yeah it had to be the sidewall. I could push the car side to side and watch the tire flex.
It might just be the different compound of the tire and bigger tire wall size flexing more. Maybe. Because for my 370Z, I had Federal 595 RS RR summer tires on and they felt very rigid, very grippy, very stable at high speeds, and the steering response was instant. Then eventually I swapped them with Hankook Ventus V12 evo all season high performance tires and it made a dramatic downfall. Everything was just not as responsive as they used to be and that really opened up my eyes. OR, maybe you just gotta drive the car longer to let the tires settle. 500 miles maybe. But yeah that’s my story.
Yeah I wonder how OEM spec Falken would of been. Maybe ppl running oversized tires on the GTR were sticking with Michelin or Toyo. So part of me thinks the brand of tires was the issue. Maybe just not as performance oriented compared to higher end brands.
You could just re-label your previous video when you first got the Falken's as a tire test to see if they are any good. And that you plan on testing tires until you find the right ones. LoL
Fantastic sound from that car. Diggin it.
Thanks! Love the GTR!
Well I'm glad you didn't crash because of those tires.
I literally would of if I pushed the car more or went into the mountains like I was planning to. Over 100mph, it is scary. Even at 70 on the highway, lane changes were sketchy
This would be a great PSA on the importance of using OEM tires. Seems like there is alot of misinformation in the forms.
Thought u were gonna mention that crappy wrap job...
Wow, I just watched this video 5 years later I bought a GTR last week with the same color spec and year as yours and it came with Falken tires i was so disappointed my dream car handled like trash but I should have realized it was the tires i will definitely order a set of Michelins pilots
Oh dang. Yeah get some Michelins on it asap! Big difference! We have some GTR parts on our website too! Midpipe, lowering springs, intakes and wheels spacers are a great first step in upgrading the car for better handling, power and sound!
brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/categories/nissan-gtr-parts
I will check it out !
Sweet! Fun car to modify for sure!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed this GTR I have Is your old car
@@simpleadvicevids If you bought it last week I highly doubt it lol. I sold mine maybe 7-8 months ago.
I was running with a set of Dunlop Sport Maxx R/T in my 2016 sti and it was great ! I had a great response, the weight of the steering felt good. I was able to push it in some back roads, no problem.
Then a week ago I had a flat tire and I took my car to the dealer I bought it and they gave me another set of tires ‘cuz of the type of the warranty I had.
The set of tires had to be under 100.000 jpy( around 940-950 usd, and yes I live in Japan ) so a couple of days later they got me the same one you’re riding : Falken AZENIS FK510 245/40R18.
The moment I started the car and did some cruising I noticed the steering was lighter, I played with the steering in a straight line and it didn’t feel right. I drove the car on the same back roads I usually take to have some fun and I couldn’t feel like I could push it at the same speed that would always do.
So far I had it for a week but for a daily driver I think it should be fine. Wet braking felt ok too.
I just don’t know if I would buy one of these sets or if I would recommend it to someone.
Yeah for me I definitely wouldn't buy them again lol. Thats crazy you felt similar things with the same tire. The GTR owner who recommended these to me probably never drive their cars on fun roads
Great tire choice! I have PS4S on my 370Z and love’em.
What were the falcons and the michelins rated? I would assume on a super car, Z rated is what you want.
Bugkillahz They were both XL and the same speed rating
ZR with a (Y) speed rating is 186mph+ for most supercars.
I apologize if this remark offends you, but...that wrap looks like a circus tent. I know you spent a lot of money on it, and I don't have the same taste as you, but IMHO, the wrap is detracting from the beauty of the car.
Bruce Skinner Actually I only spent $250 on it 😅. To each their own😌
Rip I just bought these tires but in size 255/285. I was thinking I'll see a benefit from these since they are way lighter than the Michelin pilots because the michelins are run flats. The downside is they are 300 treadwear compared to 200 treadwear. Luckily these wheels/tires will be my rain tires and not my track/rally wheels/tires
If you went with stock sizes I'd assume they are fine tires. Just didn't seem to have the sidewall strength for good response this car needs
Not all tires are created equal even if the specs are similar. Just visually you can tell that the Michelin 4S would offer far more traction. The Falken 510s aren't in the same category even on Tire Rack's website
Sounds excellent! 💥💥
Thanks! I love the Armytrix!
Question - how much difference is there in interior noise between the two sets of tires?
Not really too much. Falkens seemed slightly quieter and did offer a softer ride
The first mod I did to my Nismo Z was the Pilot Sport 4S. These tires really grip good when the outside temps are around 60 t0 70 degrees. I have also push them a bit in 50 degree temps, and they were good as well. Never try a save a buck on performance tires.
That happened in my Z. It felt like it was on ice in corners. Traction control going bananas. Went back same day and re upped on Michelins. Last time I do that
I had P-Zero’s on my Type R,and needed new tyres and went with Michelin 4s,night and day difference. Not cheap,but well worth it.
You would think P-Zeros's are good too tho? 4s' are definitely awesome!
It's interesting how tires can really affect a car.
tires are the biggest change you can make, they effect acceleration,braking,corner,etc.
@@Sylen7ube I just said that in a different way. Your fired.
Tire pressures make a huge difference as well. 32 psi with one tire sometimes makes the same car perform differently from one tire brand to the next. Just saying.
Hi, I tested a lot of tyres on my GTR, think that the best are the original sized tyres from DUNLOP run flat with hard boarding. If you do high speed (over 200 km/h the DUNLOP semislicks are the best for stability and precision in high speed. What do think? In winter the Michelin Pilot Alpin are best
Who would have ever thought putting the wrong tires on a performance car would make such a difference?
Good thing I watch this before buying a set of tires. I wonder if this will have the same effect on a continental tires. But if it does, now I know to stay on Michelin tires. Is your Michelin tires a run flat? Also maybe because your falken is not run flat? I wonder 🤔
Mine are not run flats. Neither brand was. I'd definitely stick with OEM diameter and stick with the top brands. I think the size of these also is why they weren't good for the car
Seems quite dangerous that turning issue. Maybe it mis aligned the car or it cannot read the tires, with the computer or something perhaps as you said they are too big and high.
Joolz1982 The spec’s are no different that what a bunch of other GTR owners run. It has to be a softer sidewall that caused the issue
Could the difference in the tire size be messing with the computer?
100000% yes. It absolutely will.
Didn't you consider the fact that you used wider tires for all 4 corners? I'm running stock size michelin ps4 but I drove my friends 2017 with 295 rear and 285 fronts and it felt like shit x this is also using michelin ps4s, so I don't thing this video proves anything, stock size will feel better and it seems to track imperfections on the road much less than wider tires, my opinion comes from driving 2 different sizes of michelin, I have a 2013 fbo on e85, which is a little faster than your 93 set up end it feels planted with stock sizes
Tyres are a personal preference. Just put re070’s on my Impreza for a track day and watching the videos back from my channel it looks like ad08r’s we’re quicker. It’s one of those things and easily solve able.
Didnt you say all these things as soon as you got the new tires on too ??? Love them ... at first...
I had issues like that on GSXR 1000 learned real quick you get what you pay for..
Easily the sexiest liter bike fuck anyone who hates
That could have been dangerous for you and others if you needed to suddenly avoid something. Good you swapped those tires in short order.
Exactly! Doing a fast maneuver on the highway was sooo sketchy! Car felt so wobbly.
Ya, the wrap is like a Swedish Army Meth barf (worst I've ever seen) .... Love the Mich Pilot 4S. Short lifecycle though..
Was traction light coming with old tires ?
If I floored it in 1st gear it'd spin a tad. But never had traction issues
the ps4s still no way near as sharp as the original Dunlop Sportmaxx GT600 in terms of steering response
I've never experienced the Dunlop tires. It had PS4S when I bought it. So I've stuck with them
@@BrosFOURRSpeed give it a try when you have the chance, you will be impressed with Dunlop’s direct steering and sharp handling, although the road noise and comfort is worse
BRO!!! SO IRONIC YOU JUST MADE THIS VIDEO, I WENT FROM THE DUNLOP RUNFLATS THAT THEY HAVE ON THEM FROM THE FACTORY TO THE CONTINENTAL EXTREME CONTACTS AND THEY DO THE SAME THING YOU ARE DESCRIBING. I FELT THE SAME WAY LIKE THE CAR LOST ITS SUPERIORITY...SO MUCH ROLL I CANT STAND IT.
Wow! I almost bought those Continental tires over the Falkens! Mine had Pilot Super Sports when I bought it. And these 4s' are just the newer versions. Definitely sticking with them!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I ordered the SuperSports and 2 were on back order. I would have waited if my Dunlops were not showing CHORD haha the alignment was so bad when I bought it and went through tires in 4k miles haha
That Wrap sick AF.
Haha thanks! It was a fun project to tackle!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I love it but seems like some haters dont looking at the comments lol.
@@Blassie.P I'd like to see them wrap a car lol, I don't have it wrapped anymore, but gives me a new respect for the pros that wrap cars everyday! It took us a week to complete this!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed for real bro, anyways keep up the good work and good content coming.
Love the car but You need a new wrap 🤢
any difference using in Nitrogen vs air?
I've only used normal air. I highly doubt you'll notice a difference
Why didn't you do 285/295?
I saw a lot of recommendations for the size I bought. But after this, I just wanted OEM so I didn't have to worry about it. I now have a wider set of wheels, so next tires, I'll go a bit wider
Wrap is hot garbage. If u wanna give money away as you just did with that wrap. Just send us viewers the money a bit a time. Well spent
Are the falkens run flat ? Because stock potenza are run flat. Which has beefier side walls compared normal tires.
No. The Michelins that were on before this weren't either
Lesson learned: you get what you paid for?
When it comes to tires... you definitely do!
Maybe a bad alignment? That's the other thing I would have think as well, did they re did the alignment?
Alignment was on spec. The car handles exactly like it did with the previous Michelin tires, now on the 4s's with the new alignment. So the alignment is fine
Did you adjust tire pressure? If you trusted other GT-R owners for the alignment, I find it hard to believe they would have such different experiences with tires.
Tire pressure was in check. Had to be just a more flexible sidewall
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Yes, some of those tires require higher pressures. Going to a wider width tire and running standard (low) pressure for the tire could have made the softer sidewall situation much worse. May not be the "crap" tire, just the condition it was run in.
what if you fit the michelin 315 tyres rear?
As long as the diameter is nearly stock you should be good. I think the high difference of these tires also made them not that good
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you think getting a bigger alloy which is made specifically for a wider tyre? As a lot of the high end porsches have very wide rear wheel maybe benefits on rear wheel drive car not 4 wheel drive
Do you have any comparison to the original set of tires, the Dunlop set? I’m also a GT-R owner with still the original set of Dunlop tires. I‘m wondering if the original Dunlop’s are better or worse compared to the Michelin’s 4s. Thanks for any advice for that.
When I bought the car it had Pilot SS. So I have no clue how the original set did. No complaints with the Michelin tires
Thanks for your response. I‘ll try the 4s the next time.
They are definitely great!
Michelin vehicles , Pirelli Motorcycles = happy life!!!
Michelin’s best tires on the market for sure
Contis extreme contact sport for the win!....nothing comes close..well maybe Michelin..lol
I've heard good things with those! After this tho, I'm sticking with Michelins for all my sportscar. lol
You heard right, cause their better than Michellins...lol
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Azenis suck btw...Achilles are so much better and look prettier...lol
Whoever told you the falken tires are great for the GT-R either lied to you or didn’t know what they were talking about. Never heard anyone mention this tire brand on the GT-R forums.
Yeah I guess not every GTR owner knows what they are talking about lol. Ppl in a GTR Facebook group told me this. They probably never do any performance driving. I'll be sticking with Michelin from now on. Live and learn.
Bros FOURR Speed Hey at least it got you some good content. Plus it emphasizes the importance of having quality tires for this platform. I got schooled on this early on in my ownership from highly experienced GT-R owners before making a mistake. 285 squared is what I use. I love it because you can rotate the tires front to rear every 15k miles or so. Basically when there is a difference of 2/32nds front to rear I rotate.
GT-R Marine Yeah really I got an extra video out of it 😅. But more importantly I learned something new about cars. And can now help out others with their tire questions so they don’t make the same mistake. A square set like that wouldn’t be a bad way to go
At 11:13 look at the acceleration and look at all that exhaust when he floors it. It's not dirt because burnt gasoline gives it that exact look.
Ghosts1912 The first acceleration there was a lot of sand in the road. But for the most part under WOT, black smoke shoots out being straight piped
Bros FOURR Speed oh, it looked like a highway road which led to me assuming that. I also thought you straight piped it I'm new to the channel but I did sub. My bad
@@Ghosts-jx7dw Yeah the first acceleration was in front of a rock quarry of some sorts. Lots of sand in the road. But any straight piped turbo car will shoot black smoke under WOT
Told ya to get MPSS from the get go.
Why would you ceramic coat it and then vinyl wrap it less than 6 months later?
Just to have it nice and clean, but once the wrap comes off, I won't have to redo it or anything, it'll look brand new!
Bros FOURR Speed makes sense
Get yourself some hankook rs3 or dunlop star specs.
cant wait had a GTR i got a Maxima 2017 i guess i only need another 300 hp lol
How a dumbass like me ruins a perfect GTR!
It's just vinyl, it comes off..
@@BrosFOURRSpeed 👍
Why did you choose 4S over Cup 2?
Those look more track focused. GTR is my daily for the most part. So I wanted more of a blend for daily use and longevity but something that can still handle the car.
That is not dust. It only shows up when you are on the throttle. You have oil burning. Bad turbo seals maybe?
KillaBandit The first acceleration was dust in the road. But being strait piped, black smoke shoots out under WOT. Every turbo car does that
Bros FOURR Speed every time every road you were on I saw grey smoke coming out the back. Not every car does that either. Only cars that have issues. Lol
Turbo cars will have black smoke coming out the rear under full throttle. Especially straight piped. My stock Genesis Coupe did it, and even my moms Escape EcoBoost does it.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Just saying, I've owned a few myself and they never did it that much. A puff maybe, but not continuous.
Did you have a GTR with over sized injectors and no cats? Other stage 3 GT-R's I've driven do the same thing
275 front/315 rear Continental Extreme Contact Sport. Exact same diameter front/rear. Those were perfect on my GTR
hmmm, must be the brand then.
Are those 4S all season?
Summer tires
Can't imagine a whale on my roof, would a adult shark feel the same, keep in mind I've only an eat $80,000 AU high performance car ?. LOL
nice car and humorous content, I enjoy coming to your channel as great content.
Cheers and take care Covid-19 pandemic about.
James 💙🇭🇲💙
LOl yeah a shark should give you the same feeling ;)
What a dramatic title for this video. I use those exact tires on my Benz and there is no play whatsoever in the steering or any of the things you complained about so yeah, I guess it is a mismatch of tires for a particular model of car
Well I read tons of forums of other GTR owners saying how great they were for the money, but seems like they are great for a non performance vehicle.
Nitto NT550 are good
I had those for a while when I had a set of Vossen wheels. Those were good tires!
Nitto nt555 is rubbish i almost die with it, dont know about nt550 but i will never use nitto in my life again
I love your new tires man!! Everyone makes mistakes! Do y’all like Electric cars? I do
Great looking wheels! Your GTR not the tires/rims lol....
Put 500 miles on them before Spirited Driving...and re-torque the lug nuts Dude
MPSS or MP4S only on these. Period.
Yup! Lesson learned lol
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I have to get ready to replace mine this week.
So much fun.
You should check out the wheel sale they have going on at Speed By Design right now.
A full set of Rohanas for less than 3K with shipping and lugs. Not bad at all.
@@theofficialrecojefferson Oh wow! Not too bad!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I'm thinking if picking up a spare set just for winter wheels since I only have my Advans now.
It could’ve been tire pressure
38ea pressure was 35psi
Bros FOURR Speed softer tires or changing the size (width, sidewall ) can require different tire pressure than the previous ones! But I love your videos bro keep posting! One day I hope to have a gtr too
38ea Yeah I figured it just not worth it lol. The stock sizes can handle the power good enough
Take all the wrap off... doesn’t look good at all
Click bait title🤨
If you drove the car back to back with these tires. You would totally agree. One of the big things that makes a GTR an amazing car it the handling at high speeds. The handling was absolutely gone with these tires. And the drivability was so compromised I didn't feel safe going on the highway making lane changes. So the GTR was absolutely ruined for its purpose of fun high performance driving.
"The stradman" already have a c8
you should go 285/35 in front and 295/35 in the rear its the perfect diameter.. how you installed you will ruin your awd clutch
Ur car sucks bro. I swap from ps4s to the fk510. Beats it in every single way. Much2 better comfort. Silent. Better grip.
What sizes did you get? Comfort, grip and sound were better. But the cornering and high speed stability were horrible. At least in these sizes, it was very bad. Do you have a GTR too?
The vossen wheels had different tires so technically you have replaced tires
But I didn't pick the tires. So I've never had to choose new tires
How are buying these expensive tires and things ? Lol
Dont worry about it
🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧 Allergic to lames
Thought you and your brother reviews were good at first . Now their just getting dull and boring . Just become click bait and not interesting
It’s they’re*
Hard to take a review seriously when you can’t even construct a fucking sentence.
Your videos are fine buddy.
So you basically DID order the wrong brand of tires
No. I ordered the Falcon tires on purpose because other GTR owners said they were really good and a good value. Turns out I didn't like them and they ruined the driving experience with the car. So I returned them and went back to Michelin
Those rims are ugly man change it
What a cry baby
Appreciate the comment....what do you drive?
Such clickbait hahaha
How so?