Something about flower cat is that its still the only "secret" cat unit in the whole game which kinda sucks. I wish they did more stuff like that throughout the game progression.
@@wagiqwq Nah I drew this one myself! I'm less confident on human drawings or complex cats like Bahamut though which is why I commissioned other artists for those stuff
I think the worst side effect of bombercat is actually making every black enemy nowadays freeze immune, making units like nobunaga useless (without ultra form at least) and especially pumpcat true form (freeze+behemoth slayer when there is no black behemoth who isn't freeze immune)
I saw the youtube notification of this and brushed it off because I was gonna watch it later then I saw the fucking discord notification saying "the doomed yaoi of battle cats* and spat out my fucking drink and came running
2:22 (lol) well a funny story, when I was in 6th grade I was wayyy too obsessed with battle cats. So I skipped school to get bomber cat… I was still on itf 2.
one more thing about the anti-black meatshield part of the vudeo nono is absolutely not gonna be available for players next year, after the upcoming merc storia collab the actual merc storia game itself is shutting down services so past the upcoming merc collab there'll be no more of it coming back
Well Lucas let me tell you that not all hope is lost. With the recent addition of foundations being able to reduce a specific trait's dmg alongside talent orbs we can reduce razorback's dmg output to the point where we might be able to comfortably fight razorback without status! I can already see it the Lucas video on how to use desmos to calculate the final dmg reductions from foundations and talent orbs. The future is looking bright!
This reminded me a bit to Saint Dober and Juliet Cat. Although they're not as awfully made as bomber cat and Razor back, for most players Juliet The Maiko it's essentially a "Saint Dober Slave". But, Juliet it's actually usable outside of Saint Dober. Bomber Cat kind of is usable outside from razor back, but not outside of his niche in the slightest.
@@weebcraft6829 Yeah, I don't use Bombercat very often since I have Izanagi, D'Artanyan, Yukimura and Jizo almost always in my loadout and I just throw everything at him and kill him with brute force. Yes, I am not Uber carried
I think one thing you should have mentioned, is how is a new player who never goes online supposed to figure out how to get bombercat? Not everyone sits there and spams the slider thingy a billion times, so getting base form is already really unlikely. And then you have to refresh the event stage page at the specific time of day, on a specific day, which as you mentioned is often on a school day. So your only real counter for an op enemy is an Easter egg unit..
@@meepswag35 i found out because it looked like it would be funny if they hid anything, and i got rewarded for it. Don't get me wrong, It's still stupid to lock such an important key behind a gimmick they never did again, like if there were multiple secret units then it would be more fair since it sets the precedent of such a mechanic instead of a one and done.
Day/Video 2 of finding every png of a hololive member in a Lucus IV video: 3:08 Ceres Fauna 2 3:32 :Thinking: Takane Lui 6:12 Ookami Mio 1 7:43 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei 8:22 Ninomae Ina'nis 1 9:33 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei 11:13 (Frog Costume) Takanashi Kiara - Low Sanity 13:25 Ninomae Ina'nis 1 16:58 Ookami Mio 1 17:07 Aki Rosenthal 1 17:42 Phone Ouro Kronii 18:59 Angy Himemori Luna 19:10 Aki Rosenthal 1 22:19 Ninomae Ina'nis 1 24:35 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei New stats for this video: Ceres Fauna: 1 *(NEW)* Takane Lui: 1 *(NEW)* Hoshimachi Suisei: 3 Ninomae Ina'nis: 3 Takanashi Kiara: 1 *(NEW)* Ookami Mio: 2 (not 1) *(NEW)* Aki Rosenthal: 2 (not 1) *(NEW)* Ouro Kronii: 1 *(NEW)* Himemori Luna: 1 - Myth -: 4 - Council/Promise -: 2 *(NEW)* JP Gen 0: 3 *(NEW)* JP Gen 1: 2 (not 1) *(NEW)* JP Gen 4: 1 *(NEW)* holoX: 1 *(NEW)* Gamers: 2 (not 0) EN: 6 *(NEW)* JP: 9 (not 6) Total: 15 (not 12) Lucas IV total: 21 (not 18) Notes: There's double the amount of holoPNGs in this video than the last one, and although the number from EN is the same, half of the PNGs are from JP (In the last video it was all from EN). None from ID though. EDIT 19/01/2025 I miscounted. I've added the new counts and GAMERS.
Thank you Lucas! This has been in my mind for a long time now. I am currently a returning player now playing a new account and I am reminded just how razorback is obnoxious to fight without flower cat's TF. But the one thing that always ticks me off is just the unlock condition being very very inconvinient. And being this good at it's job just kinda invalidate a lot of other cat with CC targeted towards Black enemies.
@@xyzorqit really isn’t scary at all,your right. Most of the time it’s in gimmick stages and in those gimmick stages it only pops up when you screwed up. But if you just google the strategy you shouldn’t have to worry about it Also stone cat exists too
Honestly if courier Cat was the exact same as it is now, but didn't have behemoth slayer and didn't target red I think he would be a really fun and interesting rusher. Also manic eraser is in 99% of everybody's lineups and nobody complains about it (or even notices it). At this point I think manic eraser is the one true constant and everybody has simply accepted his dominance. Easily the best unit.
Funnily enough I actually think the other way around also works, if Courier only has B.Slayer without anti red, I think he also would be just powerful enough without being too unnecessarily strong
i remember asking my math teacher if i could open battlecats mid class after i speedran her test to go get bomber cat she actually said yes goated teacher tbh
Yeah I think the main issue is that the way new enemies have been designed to deal with bombercat. Just making every black enemy freeze immune is just lame as hell when there's surely other ways to make them effective against stacking. And it just punishes other freeze black units that aren't unhealthy. It's just a mess
Bomber's very existence was made with Razorback in mind, literally made for each other. You know the deal, gotta ship them together now. Lucas starting a battle cats yaoi renaissance while explaining how their relationship isn't like icat, octo, and courier with their traits. . .
God dammit Lucas stop transitioning into making based BC content, content which this community kinda really needs and has needed for a while in order to round off its youtube presence Lucas noooo Also i like how in every video ever since the Dasli one you mentioned Dasli at least once
Thank you for making this video before the bombercat stage. I have just been waiting for it to show up. It doesn't show up in the event calendar with the other evolution stages.
As Ponos fought the fraud, it began to open it's domain "Bombercat". Razorback shrunk back in fear, as Bomber said "stand proud Razor, you move fast, attack fast, and (spit acid ???)" You aren't a spammable advent though.
I think it would be interesting to see a new enemy base that gives effect resist like the cat base upgrades do, it could make enemies that get cyberbullied by sanzo or bomber able to exist
I remember waiting for the awaken stage with my phone under my desk, entering the stage when it came up and then pausing so I could play it after class. One of my best battle cats memories 😂
the thing is with razorback too is that if your pizza is strong enough you can kind of brute force his first knockback but then he strengthens so its basically imposssible. another kinda similiar case to me is iguanidae (relic lizard) where it basically forces you to bring one of the three units in the game (Dogu, Naala, Luza) that can actually do anything to it. its not nearly as bad as bomber/razorback because theres three options and its mega late game, but it still makes me kinda hate that enemy
I think it would be cool to have a full list of easily accessible units that notably broke the meta/one enemy type. Of course there's courier, bomber, octo, etc, but even ones like jurassic being nearly universal on metal loadouts. It's kinda interesting to see what makes a fun broken unit vs a lame one.
I don’t have bomber cat still and I’m still desperately waiting for the second month of the twenty second day at 2:22 pm to obtain the true form of flower cat. I’m so done using slow up combo and sniper the heavy and other slowing units to deal with razorbacks. Stages like Lucas mentioned like, The Holy Exploit or my personally hated stages in Uncanny Legends involving Razorbacks like, Cats in the Stars and Tropical Garden really grind my gears.
6:08 "If the best way to fight an enemy is not to fight an enemy, then there's probably something wrong with the design, y'know". I disagree with this statement. Sometimes, the best design ones are those that are completely optiontal to fight, Ex: Emil in Nier Automata, The Nameless King In DS3,... I know that you specifically talking about the razor black but something about that sentence just bugs me so much.
whats even worse is that l would have never even known that bomber cat existed if l didnt watch any videos on the game. Its crazy how progression is locked behind something a casual player might not even know exists
I think it’s also worth mentioning talented pizza cat since he gets slow talents. Sure it isn’t that great against blacks because of their high kb count and pizza’s high damage but at the same time razorback has low kb and high health. The slow uptime may be kinda poor but at the same time you can usually get a few of them stacked up if Razorback spawns on base hit (The Holy Exploit, Pyroclastic Flow, Beachhead invasion). And even if the slow doesn’t proc a lot your still using pizza at the end of the day which will still quickly burst down Razorback.
0:50 i figured this out, at least a bit. Here is the story: My phone screen is bad, so after a bit i decided to switch to an autoclicker that will swipe it for me. I set it up, go to eat, and when i return, i still got nothing! So, i reset it, switch to a slightly higher speed (it was a swipe every 300 ms, and i changed it to 200 ms), and got it in a minute. My takeaway is that you need to consistently swipe at a certain pace, for some time, otherwise it will never give you a cat.
only took me till UL 9 to finally remember to get on battle cats at 2:22 pm, I always just used tons of continues (and hanzo) for forced razorbacks, but hanzo still cant do it on his own and dies quickly
I honestly believe that all the things you complained about are actually the reasons why bombercat and razorback are designed so well. I’ve always believed that in games like BC good design isn’t dependant on balance but on uniqueness, there are hundreds of cats and enemies so adding something new is only as valuable as it is unique. That makes the relationship between the unstoppable pusher razorback and the otherwise worthless cat that perfectly counters it bombercat unique. It makes it so that all stages where razorback appears transform, changing the objective to keeping you incredibly frail stack of debuggers alive, because if they die, razorback pushes and you die. The biggest issue is that ponos needs to find / make more interesting enemies to pair it with. Imagine a stage where the goal is to use wave / ld attacks to continually kb an enemy like the dogelord so he can never attack. They’d probably need to add a regular enemy variant of him for it to wrk but the idea is still there.
i havent finished the video yet so you probably touch on this in the video, but one thing that kinda sucks about bombercat existing is that it justifies razorbacks existence bc "oh just use bomber" and it sucks if you want to beat razorback stages in 4* without bomber
after starting to watch this video, i decided to start idly swiping to try to finally unlock flower cat i then took a break to do a quick zombie game i then unlocked flower cat at 13:36 a bit after i started idly swiping again
I just reliesed why *that* uber is in the game. If you don't use the website to strategize then the info you have in game is not enough to do proper deck building, thus making *that* uber the only notable option to beat certain stages without careful decision making. In turn, the amount of research needed to be done out of battle cats makes it just be the go-to when wanting to win.
Since my recent account lacks Bomber, it was more funny using stuff like Rin Cat CC and Rodeo for Razorback lol Whats funnier is the fact that I am at endgame of ZL and still dont have him lol This video was a fun watch about a certain bore and cat with bombs (look mom, I'm on TV!)
I disagree with you that Bombercat and Razorback is a "bad" dynamic. That would be the case if you just focus on the interactivity of their matchup but I would say that isn't the case here. I would say the the with Razorback, the challenge isn't to beat him but the fact that you have to include Bomber in your lineup. I like that dynamic of providing an alternative challenge than just to beat the actual enemy. I think of it as a gimmick enemy akin to Assassin Bear. Now, Razorback is indeed beatable by other units so it's not nearly as restrictive as Assassin Bear. The issue I agree with, however, is that they haven't been able to make a cool challenge out of this dynamic yet. However, I like that they always have an option to make good use of this different kind of challenge.
Taste of success is still impossibile tho, even when I have a stack of combo boosted bombercats, there's always something that somehow manages to kill them all, giving the razorbacks enough time to destroy my ubers
2:19 on this october 22nd i was on spanish class and on 2:18PM i asked the teacher if i could go to the bathroom, i beat it easly and went back to class
The best interaction between Courier and Ahirujo is you have to beat Ahirujo without Courier at least once to get Courier. This is great design! And after that Ahirujo is not much of a threat, because you got an ultimate weapon against it
you don't have to use bomber in growing strange, just use chronos or just down make a loadout for that specific stage and make a loadout for a couple of stages on growing strange like i do for the red and alien one, plus you could add a sanzo for angel and floating which makes 5 out of 8 plus the fact you add chonos that could deal with the black one making it 6 out of 8 and those odds I prefer
@@Vader_vgc I know that but it takes a while to get bombercat because of its only available for 2 minutes on two certain days of a month on a specific time
i feel like this problem is less about bombercat being broken as an unit, but more about razorback being an unbelievably oppressive enemy that is hard to truly counter without heavy anti-black firepower, like god what was PONOS thinking with em
battle cats players try to not make unfunny racist joke on any anti-black units challenge impossible
Don't forget the cop cat
Glad I research how to get bomber cat before I had to wait 3 months 💀
@@irfanmuzaki6698he’s anti traitless,and even then he doesn’t dominate his trait like how Bombercat and Pookiemura do
if you really think about; all specialist units are racist towards their targeted traits
I haven't seen anyone make a joke like that in forever
so this is why you were asking for bombercat razorback yaoi
Yeah I was like why would he ask if there is any Razorback x Bomber fanart on twitter lmao
😧: My reaction without if I saw this without context
Yea I'm sure lucas was planning on using that for the video and nothing else
@@susamogus8331 yup surely
it was all foreshadowing
Something about flower cat is that its still the only "secret" cat unit in the whole game which kinda sucks. I wish they did more stuff like that throughout the game progression.
Undead Cat's unlock requirement in JP is actually very cryptic too. IIRC you need to press a secret button in the Help / FAQ menu or something.
@@LucasIVYTOh really? Damn, i wish EN had that.
I'd say IDI is a secret Unit,
Filibuster too,
Not Jagando tho.
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAroundid agree idi, but no fillibuster as the game kinda tells you how to get him
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllArounddr.nova technically is also a secret unit then if you include idi.
She bomber on my cat till permafreeze
Spermafreeze
I'm gonna do what razor back does to your behind
🕛
I'm stealing that😭
@@NaLian605 razorbackshots
lucas' thumbnail game has been crazy good these last videos ngl
This one's basically a parody of Super Bomberman R!
Next stream when?@@LucasIVYT
@@LucasIVYT yeah looks awesome! Did you assign an artist?
@@LucasIVYT I adore it:D
@@wagiqwq Nah I drew this one myself! I'm less confident on human drawings or complex cats like Bahamut though which is why I commissioned other artists for those stuff
The best cc you can apply to an enemy is death
@@catgameplayer no no,he’s got a point
Hades agrees
Yukimura approves this
"The best defense is the offense"
Zombie units:
"Most UNREASONABLE true form"
> The video is about the unbreakable love and loyalty between razorback and bomber
What did he mean by this?
ramen is not as bad
also me using ramen for the entire first half of sol
@@m453-aperson tf are u talking about
@@m453-apersonramen 💀💀💀
Why are you talking about ramen Cat
@@Omer-n5r6w wdym ramen is one of the best generalist meatshields+ he can be used in 4 crown
[Insert art of razorback and bomber making out here]
wowwies
Wouldn't pay, but certainly wouldn't mind.
its peak actually
Awooga
😐
I think the worst side effect of bombercat is actually making every black enemy nowadays freeze immune, making units like nobunaga useless (without ultra form at least) and especially pumpcat true form (freeze+behemoth slayer when there is no black behemoth who isn't freeze immune)
@@-_gustawhyper_- Powercreep!
I saw the youtube notification of this and brushed it off because I was gonna watch it later then I saw the fucking discord notification saying "the doomed yaoi of battle cats* and spat out my fucking drink and came running
2:22 (lol) well a funny story, when I was in 6th grade I was wayyy too obsessed with battle cats. So I skipped school to get bomber cat… I was still on itf 2.
The fact that this timestamp in your comment is also 2:22 lol
@@Socratesdoge My story is that I excused myself to go to the bathroom at exactly 2:20 so that I can get the Bombercat true form.
The Greek tragedy if the ages
@@neutralspecial1413 🤯
@@Socratesdoge i just did it in class while the teacher was talking
Ohhhhh so that's why you asked twitter for Bombercat and Razorback making out art.
one more thing about the anti-black meatshield part of the vudeo
nono is absolutely not gonna be available for players next year, after the upcoming merc storia collab the actual merc storia game itself is shutting down services so past the upcoming merc collab there'll be no more of it coming back
0:45 You have to slide the door until you hear a meow. You then have to do that a total of 100 times in under 1 minute.
That sounds near impossible in hindsight that means you have to do it one or twice a second nonstop
@Xailic Yep. Have fun.
@Xailic thats really not hard, you can swipe it three or four times a second easily
@@alwayrember193 I know I have it
Well Lucas let me tell you that not all hope is lost.
With the recent addition of foundations being able to reduce a specific trait's dmg alongside talent orbs we can reduce razorback's dmg output to the point where we might be able to comfortably fight razorback without status!
I can already see it the Lucas video on how to use desmos to calculate the final dmg reductions from foundations and talent orbs.
The future is looking bright!
LMAOOOOO okay angry bird ass
every stage can be made into Z-onel tier big brain moment if you try hard enough
@@scheeep7376 z-onal and razor stage🤤
bombercat: i have to learn how to quit you
razorback: i know babe
insert freeze effect png
This reminded me a bit to Saint Dober and Juliet Cat.
Although they're not as awfully made as bomber cat and Razor back, for most players Juliet The Maiko it's essentially a "Saint Dober Slave".
But, Juliet it's actually usable outside of Saint Dober. Bomber Cat kind of is usable outside from razor back, but not outside of his niche in the slightest.
this is basically true yes st dober is also rly bad
Ponos trying to not force you to use a cat and actually have a choice in what to bring in your loaudout
Same thing can be said for the angel and behemoth trait,if you don’t have ramen/courier your cooked
You have a choice
...of what broken fest Uber you wanna bring to instantly roll a stage
@@weebcraft6829 Yeah, I don't use Bombercat very often since I have Izanagi, D'Artanyan, Yukimura and Jizo almost always in my loadout and I just throw everything at him and kill him with brute force.
Yes, I am not Uber carried
I think one thing you should have mentioned, is how is a new player who never goes online supposed to figure out how to get bombercat? Not everyone sits there and spams the slider thingy a billion times, so getting base form is already really unlikely. And then you have to refresh the event stage page at the specific time of day, on a specific day, which as you mentioned is often on a school day. So your only real counter for an op enemy is an Easter egg unit..
@@meepswag35 i found out because it looked like it would be funny if they hid anything, and i got rewarded for it. Don't get me wrong, It's still stupid to lock such an important key behind a gimmick they never did again, like if there were multiple secret units then it would be more fair since it sets the precedent of such a mechanic instead of a one and done.
havent watched yet just wanted to compliment the thumbnail, love the parody and recreation of the bomberman UI/style.
Day/Video 2 of finding every png of a hololive member in a Lucus IV video:
3:08 Ceres Fauna 2
3:32 :Thinking: Takane Lui
6:12 Ookami Mio 1
7:43 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei
8:22 Ninomae Ina'nis 1
9:33 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei
11:13 (Frog Costume) Takanashi Kiara - Low Sanity
13:25 Ninomae Ina'nis 1
16:58 Ookami Mio 1
17:07 Aki Rosenthal 1
17:42 Phone Ouro Kronii
18:59 Angy Himemori Luna
19:10 Aki Rosenthal 1
22:19 Ninomae Ina'nis 1
24:35 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei
New stats for this video:
Ceres Fauna: 1
*(NEW)* Takane Lui: 1
*(NEW)* Hoshimachi Suisei: 3
Ninomae Ina'nis: 3
Takanashi Kiara: 1
*(NEW)* Ookami Mio: 2 (not 1)
*(NEW)* Aki Rosenthal: 2 (not 1)
*(NEW)* Ouro Kronii: 1
*(NEW)* Himemori Luna: 1
- Myth -: 4
- Council/Promise -: 2
*(NEW)* JP Gen 0: 3
*(NEW)* JP Gen 1: 2 (not 1)
*(NEW)* JP Gen 4: 1
*(NEW)* holoX: 1
*(NEW)* Gamers: 2 (not 0)
EN: 6
*(NEW)* JP: 9 (not 6)
Total: 15 (not 12)
Lucas IV total: 21 (not 18)
Notes: There's double the amount of holoPNGs in this video than the last one, and although the number from EN is the same, half of the PNGs are from JP (In the last video it was all from EN). None from ID though.
EDIT 19/01/2025 I miscounted. I've added the new counts and GAMERS.
@@omegablaze135 lmao yea i added a couple new holo reaction images recently
@@LucasIVYT Nice.
Why do you possess such knowledge
bro started seed tracking hololive members
someone has to much time
razorback with no bomber? eh close enough, welcome back DREAMY
I love razorback and hating mi-
Real
bomber? sounds a lot like boomer...
I use Healer instead of bomber since I can’t get his true form do to the requirements… (you must get him at 2:22 and I gyatt school so yeah)
The problem for me is that every time the bomber cat awakens stage appears,I’m at school😔
@@hydro_da_aquatic_guy Next month it is on sunday
Then just change the time on your phone to 2:20 after school
uh don’t worry,I think next month 22nd I don’t have school
Thank you Lucas! This has been in my mind for a long time now. I am currently a returning player now playing a new account and I am reminded just how razorback is obnoxious to fight without flower cat's TF. But the one thing that always ticks me off is just the unlock condition being very very inconvinient. And being this good at it's job just kinda invalidate a lot of other cat with CC targeted towards Black enemies.
22:09 HELP HE FORGOT THE HAT
I had school during the day it was on but my dad did the level for me 👍
@@Ilikecats-xd4wd w dad
Holy gigachad
W dad 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
Goated father
You have a great dad
Razorback when bomber cat walks in:
💞
Razorback is the scariest enemy I have ever faced since assassin bear
Scariest enemy you’ve faced so FAR
assbear ain't that scary
@@xyzorqit really isn’t scary at all,your right. Most of the time it’s in gimmick stages and in those gimmick stages it only pops up when you screwed up. But if you just google the strategy you shouldn’t have to worry about it
Also stone cat exists too
@@xyzorqboosted assshittin bear
@xyzorqi got stuck on the last gang for like a week because of assassin bear
Bombercat when the Black Enemy is Freeze Immune:
Honestly if courier Cat was the exact same as it is now, but didn't have behemoth slayer and didn't target red I think he would be a really fun and interesting rusher.
Also manic eraser is in 99% of everybody's lineups and nobody complains about it (or even notices it). At this point I think manic eraser is the one true constant and everybody has simply accepted his dominance. Easily the best unit.
Funnily enough I actually think the other way around also works, if Courier only has B.Slayer without anti red, I think he also would be just powerful enough without being too unnecessarily strong
"i created you, and you created me"
"ponos whyd you create that cat?"
i remember asking my math teacher if i could open battlecats mid class after i speedran her test to go get bomber cat
she actually said yes goated teacher tbh
Yeah I think the main issue is that the way new enemies have been designed to deal with bombercat. Just making every black enemy freeze immune is just lame as hell when there's surely other ways to make them effective against stacking. And it just punishes other freeze black units that aren't unhealthy. It's just a mess
Feels like a giving the whole class detention because one student was a problem thing almost lmao
your search history must be screwed after those images
Oh if we wanna talk trait-breaking units, don’t get me started on Esoteric Uril. That unit is not ok LOL.
@@kartoffel9684 yeah but he’s not very early game
14:13 idk if this is intentional or not but the lass on screen holding razorback and bombercat in her hands is perfectly placed.
thought i was going crazy from playing too much deadlock when i heard the music at the beginning lol. great music choice
Finally, I'm not the only one who thinks Razorback is a shit enemy
I’ve seen lots of people say that razorback is a bad enemy
Bomber's very existence was made with Razorback in mind, literally made for each other. You know the deal, gotta ship them together now.
Lucas starting a battle cats yaoi renaissance while explaining how their relationship isn't like icat, octo, and courier with their traits. . .
God dammit Lucas stop transitioning into making based BC content, content which this community kinda really needs and has needed for a while in order to round off its youtube presence Lucas noooo
Also i like how in every video ever since the Dasli one you mentioned Dasli at least once
It’s like WolfeGlick and Incineroar
@@Buby39or seedium plants and creeps20
I love the random images with Lucas’s hat, like Kronii at 17:43 very good choice
Glad to make the art in the video at
24:16 !!!!! 🔥
When u want to get bombercat but you lwk have dementia:
I enjoy the fact that not only was this the reason you asked for the bomberback yaoi, but that there is a whole chapter named "doomed yaoi"
BOMBERCAT IS MY GOAT....
MY GOAT, SINGLE-HANDEDLY CARRYING ME THROUGH EARLY GAME PURE BLACK STAGES
MY GOAT
2:15 I did in fact skip school that day
Thank you for making this video before the bombercat stage. I have just been waiting for it to show up. It doesn't show up in the event calendar with the other evolution stages.
As Ponos fought the fraud, it began to open it's domain "Bombercat". Razorback shrunk back in fear, as Bomber said "stand proud Razor, you move fast, attack fast, and (spit acid ???)" You aren't a spammable advent though.
lucas making whole 25 minutes video to show us bomber x razorback arts thats what we wanted 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
I think it would be interesting to see a new enemy base that gives effect resist like the cat base upgrades do, it could make enemies that get cyberbullied by sanzo or bomber able to exist
I remember waiting for the awaken stage with my phone under my desk, entering the stage when it came up and then pausing so I could play it after class. One of my best battle cats memories 😂
the thing is with razorback too is that if your pizza is strong enough you can kind of brute force his first knockback but then he strengthens so its basically imposssible. another kinda similiar case to me is iguanidae (relic lizard) where it basically forces you to bring one of the three units in the game (Dogu, Naala, Luza) that can actually do anything to it. its not nearly as bad as bomber/razorback because theres three options and its mega late game, but it still makes me kinda hate that enemy
I think it would be cool to have a full list of easily accessible units that notably broke the meta/one enemy type. Of course there's courier, bomber, octo, etc, but even ones like jurassic being nearly universal on metal loadouts. It's kinda interesting to see what makes a fun broken unit vs a lame one.
or mummy sumo humiliating soc?
lucas' thumbnail just revealed the new ultra form....
Super Bombercat N
I don’t have bomber cat still and I’m still desperately waiting for the second month of the twenty second day at 2:22 pm to obtain the true form of flower cat. I’m so done using slow up combo and sniper the heavy and other slowing units to deal with razorbacks. Stages like Lucas mentioned like, The Holy Exploit or my personally hated stages in Uncanny Legends involving Razorbacks like, Cats in the Stars and Tropical Garden really grind my gears.
6:08 "If the best way to fight an enemy is not to fight an enemy, then there's probably something wrong with the design, y'know". I disagree with this statement. Sometimes, the best design ones are those that are completely optiontal to fight, Ex: Emil in Nier Automata, The Nameless King In DS3,... I know that you specifically talking about the razor black but something about that sentence just bugs me so much.
@@anaveragewaterenjoyer7157 also, isn’t that the whole purpose of assassin bear, avoiding fighting him whenever possible?
I love how he talks about holy exploit while I make it to that stage in 4 crown difficulty
whats even worse is that l would have never even known that bomber cat existed if l didnt watch any videos on the game. Its crazy how progression is locked behind something a casual player might not even know exists
I think it’s also worth mentioning talented pizza cat since he gets slow talents. Sure it isn’t that great against blacks because of their high kb count and pizza’s high damage but at the same time razorback has low kb and high health. The slow uptime may be kinda poor but at the same time you can usually get a few of them stacked up if Razorback spawns on base hit (The Holy Exploit, Pyroclastic Flow, Beachhead invasion). And even if the slow doesn’t proc a lot your still using pizza at the end of the day which will still quickly burst down Razorback.
It doesn’t replace bombercat obviously for stages where u cant build up a decent stack but it’s an option for some Razorback stages at least
I still don’t have bomber because I’m just so forgetful I miss it’s true form stage everytime it rolls around
0:50 i figured this out, at least a bit. Here is the story:
My phone screen is bad, so after a bit i decided to switch to an autoclicker that will swipe it for me. I set it up, go to eat, and when i return, i still got nothing! So, i reset it, switch to a slightly higher speed (it was a swipe every 300 ms, and i changed it to 200 ms), and got it in a minute.
My takeaway is that you need to consistently swipe at a certain pace, for some time, otherwise it will never give you a cat.
For door sliding thing it's anywhere between 1 to 100 times within a min
25 minutes about why flowey ruined black enemies
i think this would be the last place i would expect the deadlock shop theme to be used
20:54 front facing row has changed my life
You're probably the best battle cats youtuber. Great videos!
I wish I could unsee those Razorback x Bomber Cat pictures.
The lord is back, let’s see how many true things he’ll say today
only took me till UL 9 to finally remember to get on battle cats at 2:22 pm, I always just used tons of continues (and hanzo) for forced razorbacks, but hanzo still cant do it on his own and dies quickly
I honestly believe that all the things you complained about are actually the reasons why bombercat and razorback are designed so well. I’ve always believed that in games like BC good design isn’t dependant on balance but on uniqueness, there are hundreds of cats and enemies so adding something new is only as valuable as it is unique. That makes the relationship between the unstoppable pusher razorback and the otherwise worthless cat that perfectly counters it bombercat unique. It makes it so that all stages where razorback appears transform, changing the objective to keeping you incredibly frail stack of debuggers alive, because if they die, razorback pushes and you die. The biggest issue is that ponos needs to find / make more interesting enemies to pair it with. Imagine a stage where the goal is to use wave / ld attacks to continually kb an enemy like the dogelord so he can never attack. They’d probably need to add a regular enemy variant of him for it to wrk but the idea is still there.
24:20
HEY!!!
I know that artist!!!
Uhhhh. Duckelf or something, uhh.
CILLOW PACK REFERENCE!!!
I remember I secretly brought my iPad to school and went to the bathroom during class time just so to get that True form lol.
Only now realized that Foodstall is a Variant of Flower cat. And both have busted True Forms
Razorback on his way to get permafrozen by bombercat for the 200th time:
omg, a essay about battle cats. YESS
16:11 Bombercat slander being used as cyberpunk slander is crazy
i havent finished the video yet so you probably touch on this in the video, but one thing that kinda sucks about bombercat existing is that it justifies razorbacks existence bc "oh just use bomber" and it sucks if you want to beat razorback stages in 4* without bomber
Waiter! waiter! More Bombercat razorback yaoi please!
after starting to watch this video, i decided to start idly swiping to try to finally unlock flower cat
i then took a break to do a quick zombie game
i then unlocked flower cat at 13:36 a bit after i started idly swiping again
Thank you for the video lungcancer
do you guys think lucas likes brazillian phonk
I just reliesed why *that* uber is in the game. If you don't use the website to strategize then the info you have in game is not enough to do proper deck building, thus making *that* uber the only notable option to beat certain stages without careful decision making. In turn, the amount of research needed to be done out of battle cats makes it just be the go-to when wanting to win.
Since my recent account lacks Bomber, it was more funny using stuff like Rin Cat CC and Rodeo for Razorback lol Whats funnier is the fact that I am at endgame of ZL and still dont have him lol This video was a fun watch about a certain bore and cat with bombs
(look mom, I'm on TV!)
Wow! How do you not have bombercat and you are at ZL?? Crazy lol.
@@TaseenAlim I honestly just keep forgetting to do the stage lol and it went to a point where I just was like, "screw it, dont need him"
Every time I see a black heavy stage I put in bomber and then pizza or an uber and win, HE'S TO BROKEN
24:14 I see now why you asked a photo of Bomber cat kissing Razorblack
Bombercat also has a freeze up combo with ice cat so ponos was basically asking for this
I disagree with you that Bombercat and Razorback is a "bad" dynamic.
That would be the case if you just focus on the interactivity of their matchup but I would say that isn't the case here.
I would say the the with Razorback, the challenge isn't to beat him but the fact that you have to include Bomber in your lineup. I like that dynamic of providing an alternative challenge than just to beat the actual enemy.
I think of it as a gimmick enemy akin to Assassin Bear. Now, Razorback is indeed beatable by other units so it's not nearly as restrictive as Assassin Bear.
The issue I agree with, however, is that they haven't been able to make a cool challenge out of this dynamic yet. However, I like that they always have an option to make good use of this different kind of challenge.
Taste of success is still impossibile tho, even when I have a stack of combo boosted bombercats, there's always something that somehow manages to kill them all, giving the razorbacks enough time to destroy my ubers
2:19 on this october 22nd i was on spanish class and on 2:18PM i asked the teacher if i could go to the bathroom, i beat it easly and went back to class
The best interaction between Courier and Ahirujo is you have to beat Ahirujo without Courier at least once to get Courier. This is great design! And after that Ahirujo is not much of a threat, because you got an ultimate weapon against it
DEADLOCK SHOP MUSIC AT 0:00??? instant like
you don't have to use bomber in growing strange, just use chronos or just down make a loadout for that specific stage and make a loadout for a couple of stages on growing strange like i do for the red and alien one, plus you could add a sanzo for angel and floating which makes 5 out of 8 plus the fact you add chonos that could deal with the black one making it 6 out of 8 and those odds I prefer
@@lisasmith3405 just get chronos man it’s so easy just to get an uber
@@Vader_vgc i already have her
@@lisasmith3405 yeah but not everyone has her so you can’t recommend her
@@Vader_vgc I know that but it takes a while to get bombercat because of its only available for 2 minutes on two certain days of a month on a specific time
Love the thumbnail for this vid
Who knew an accidental pyromaniac would be so powerful?
i missed this cat even more then 20 times (still dont have it at ul)
"just monika" ahh razorback
i feel like this problem is less about bombercat being broken as an unit, but more about razorback being an unbelievably oppressive enemy that is hard to truly counter without heavy anti-black firepower, like god what was PONOS thinking with em
Yeahh that’s exactly what I was thinking the whole video through
I dont like slime cat's true form. Any video/idea about manju cat?
I wish it was something like removing wave attack for level 1 surge
@@deadclawh3851 90% of the slime cat enjoyers would hate that with a passion, the interactions he got with true form are beautiful to see
Crazy to think that all 4 of those razorback and bomber yaoi all spawned because you asked for them on twitter
there better be the bomberback yaoi that you asked for on twitter in this video
thank you lucas