The Most Hated Unit in The Battle Cats
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- A shorter video on one of my favorite units. Far from everyone else's favorites, though.
Music:
Oxygen Not Included OST: Echo From Another Time
Oxygen Not Included OST: Alpha II
Oxygen Not Included OST: A Syncopated Colony - เกม
Cyberpunk is based unit because it's a good parameter of bad level design. If the main solution of your level is Cyberstack, then that means your level is bad level. Example: many Star 3 UL stages pre-UL ending
I don't know if levels like Manic cat can be considered bad because of cyber stacking. Yes most of these levels aren't that good but there are some like I already mentioned wich are actually a bit of fun and still require some thinking. Besides, who wants to spend 15 minutes spamming cybers unless a level is unbelivably hard
This is why I don't have any hard feelings about cyber. It was a lifesaver so many times during the hardest parts of SOL before it got powercrept so much. It was a nessesary evil.
@@SpicyInk you definitely can beat Manic Cat without Cyberstack. The basic requirements for the stage is LD unit to snipe Master A. Cyberpunk just completely removes that requirement.
Fun Fact:
Cyberstack is not the easiest way to beat Manic Cat
Classic example of a bad level is No Return Flights. Really annoying bad level design with the most consistent solution being cyberstack (albeit with nerd cat too)
@@SpicyInkthey mean levels where cyberstacking is the easiest or only way to beat a level. A lot of boss levels can be beaten by cyberstacking, but they have other better intended strategies
"Cyberstacking is slow"
Me an asiluga stacker: pathetic
Bro IS patience
If you didn't take an hour to clear the stage did you even clear it?
@@kinggamereon653 casually reaching unit limit after korea eoc1 with nothing but asilugas
(please for your own sanity do not follow my advice)
@@SirRaoh the issue here is that with enough asilugas they will push unlike cyberpunk
you cant really stack asilugas because they take to long plus the dont have ld
You know what they say: one man's 30-minute stacking hell is another man's beloved generalist CC.
i have never heard of cyberpunk getting hated but i have cyberpunk cat and he helps at the current stage i am at which is mid game.
Hes so mediocre 😭
@@stanleyyou1233 ur the one to talk to calm down tf
@@stanleyyou1233 can say the same for me, recheck the comments
@@stanleyyou1233bro was just stating his opinion like u said why u pressed 😭
I use him as backline, for Camelle
This is the first time I’m hearing about this. I thought people loved cyberpunk and most people recommended you get him as one of your first true forms. Hell, when I’m watching BC content creators and they tell the audience they had to cyberstack for a stage they usually either laugh it off or just brush over that fact, with no disdain in their voice.
Healer hate? On my lawn?
I hate him because I don’t have him
@@Enter_a_name69i hate him because i have him but not his true form
Me twoooo@@alexandremontesinos7876
@@alexandremontesinos7876dawg I think that's your problem, not healer's
explained in the video
average f50 enjoyers get rage when they see you do healer stunlocking uril
I feel like it is more satisfying to use cyberpunk than it is boring, you stack up a bunch and you Perma slow the enemy, although I hate it when you have to wait 30 minutes for a victory
I agree fully, especially since if you fuck up stalling an enemy at any point in fhe stall it can almost gurantee a loss of your run, especially for when the first encounter of you (relic bun) came out. The only option for people outside of cyber stack is grind most SOL true forms, which was hell at its time, and still is a massive pain to do uberless
Though, since ive been following the battle cats since version 7, i dont think ive ever seen any genuine hate for cyber that doesnt boil down to "you need Cyber to beat X stage" as for a majority of sol, that was true for a lot of the stages, and still can be for all stages after ITF 1 given eraser duo, and later rock+manic/secondary meatshield
Cyberstacking is just another form of cheese. If you're into that, all the power to you, but the stage shown towards the end of the video with the dog chariot dude (can't remember the name L) is clearly a level built in a way where the normal, strategic use of cyberpunk cat is highly rewarding
You mean King Wahwah?
No it’s everlord wan wan, this is the alien one
Me still dying with cyberstack:😢 (I am probably really bad to be dying with cyberstack)
When I first started playing Battle Cats, I discovered that I could stack Hacker Cats by accident. I didnt look up wikis or anything, I used Hacker Cat to try and see if it would work against Bun Bun (because of course I was stuck against Bun Bun because I didn't realize I was supposed to farm treasures. I thought that its range was so long that Bun Bun would take a while to reach it, sadly that's not how LD works so it didnt exactly work), and while stalling to build up my wallet I noticed that the Hacker Cats were, well, stacking up. I was pretty proud of it.
But I still kinda liked the strat. I usually had 6 or 7 Hacker Cats before pushing, which means probably 8 by the time the boss comes out. I would use it on normal stages too. Hacker Cat is of course far less OP because, well, it doesn’t have the Slow, but sure as hell I'm gonna be just fine with making that cat even stronger
Also it was really funny that the cat doesnt bother engaging in combat and just launches nukes. Just like me in conversations frfr
Wait
WHY TF IS THERE A WAR INGNNEAR MY HOME??
Bruh I just got him
Cyber stacking should really be used as a last resort strategy when you’re tired of a stage and just want to move on. This isn’t really great game balance, but it’s not a huge deal for me. Also, i see absolutely nothing wrong with using just a single cyber during a stage, it’s basically like using an Uber with slow ability
I love how some people say “THIS CAT IS TOO OP” and then when they get nerfed they say “OMG THIS UNIT IS SO BAD IT NEEDS A BUFF” like dan
I'm guessing you mean powercrept because ponos is infamous for not nerfing units, point stands regardless.
SPOILER:
Based on how you framed the video, I don't think cyberpunk itself is to blame. If you do use just one cybepunk as a general support unit, he can be quite interactive. The blame lies in the cyberstacking strategy. CyberSTACKING is uninteractive and boring, while using cyberpunk itself to support your units with occasional slow procs is fun and interactive. See HT F50 for evidence. I think a better title would be "The most hated strategy in battle cats", since the hate really does come from the strategy and not the unit itself.
How is this a spoiler it’s literally in the thumbnail
@@SageSylvieI don't know, but just to be safe. Maybe some people DIDN'T instantly realise it was cyber.
nice video,,, one small correction tho, you forgot about treasures when talking about slow uptime, so cyber actually has 2.4s w/out talents and 4.8s w/ talents for all traits of slow uptime, except for relic, aku and traitless
also yesss I love this but I think more emphasis on that you can use cyber in any lineup just as a throw away cc and damage, even with like dphono and other broken fests, and I think it's very important when judging the unit by itself,,,
Massive respect for the Oxygen Not Included soundtrack
The thing is, I don't dislike Cyberpunk Cat. He is very helpful, yet I never go about cyberstacking, since I find that not fun. I'd rather beat my head into the wall for months to come to finally have the satisfaction of beating a stage with a good matchup, but not with Cyber. It's just boring and I get no joy out of it when beating a stage with him alone, since it just is that repetative and boring
I also really enjoy that you didn't just focus on why he is disliked and that it is so very subjective. A really good Video
This. I would only use the cyberstack strat if I'm absolutely stuck with the stage. It's so boring and does not make the use of strategizing by using other units.
I actually think Cyberpunk is very well designed. His base stats are pretty awful but somehow his proc. abilities and range are able to make him one of the best units in the game. It's especially such a big feat because most meta-relevant units are rushers or attackers. It's very interesting how his main purpose is not to necessarily damage the main threat, but to help other units do that. Assassinlan and Piccolan are also very similar units and are extremely underrated.
even one single cyberpunk can be a huge help on the battlefield though. Moreso than even my ubers at times
4:37 **Sisyphus music*
One must imagine Mr. Puffington happy
“No unit is required to beat a stage”
Korea EoC1: am I a joke to you
i got a battle cats ad before watching battle cats content
I've personally never heard of any Cyberpunk slander WE STAN CYBERPUNK CAT
I like cyberpunk when I don't have to wait over an hour to beat a single stage in a mobile game.
I can imagine people hated Cyberpunk because they don't have it, yet already cleared SoL. Then Ancient Curse strategy guides is like the easiest way to play is Cyberstack otherwise you will be screwed hard (thankfully no cyberstack strategies does exist), which is like hard wall progress for them.
It's not unusual for people to not having all Super Rare gacha even at late-game. This also applies to something like Metal Cat, which is like near-mandatory for Birth of a True Man for the 1st clear.
Personally i like Cyberpunk, but i don't like mandatory Cyberstacking to win.
metal cat isn't nearly a "required" unit for birth of true man when you can unlock ul legend true forms at that point
Never liked cyberpunk at any point in the game, was only cheese fodder for lasvoss till I got assassilan
back in my day, archer cat was the most hated unit for being useless
man, so much things have changed lol
i think the other key use of cyberpunk is also very frustrating, stages like manic dragon can be beaten by using only cyberpunk to deal damage and cyberchip the enemies to death but this takes like 45 minutes of waiting where if you fuck up and you cyber dies you have to take another 45 minutes
Average Cyberpunk hater VS average courier enjoyer:
Seriously, though. Courier is very fun to use.
I don't care what you say cyber stacking carried me through manic mohawk I stacked 7 and a lot of prisoner cats
I have never seen anyone who hasnt just started the game hate on cyberpunk
Energy's going to blow this guy's mind.
cyberstacking is funny and anyone who does it has the most patience ive ever seen
I would, but meat shielding relic doges and squirrels without succumbing to the urge of sending out pizza for the mildest inconvenience for 30 minutes is too strong.
Unkillable rock cat, me in the corner with no starred alien treasures
Kubiluga does 2.5k dps for an uber 💀
1.Great video
2. I've never heard anyone but beginner's hate on cyber.
3. Cyber stacking is not the unit's fault its the players abusing a game mechanic and complaining about it being to easy and tedious, when they are doing it.
At least with courier and dasli, they’re fun to use. Cyberpunk stages are such a drag and nowhere near as fun to use as courier and dasli. I like using him as added support but I don’t like relying on him to carry a stage. He has a sick design though
2 weeks later, Ponob cooked wrong and made a boss stage revolving around Cyberpunk (even then it's actually a "not really" situation too since you even need Sniper the Deadeye and basically ANY floating staller/knockbacker, thanks Socrates (which actually isn't even the right name according to Ponom, it's Soractes... that sounds so wrong but okay Battle Cats (/ref)))
To be fair stacking strats works on most LD unit with relatively big blindspot for stacking
Also it’s hard to say stages with poorly designed difficulty is all cyberpunk’s fault
i got an ad abt the battle cats watching this
Imo cyberpunk is the opposite of hated, many people love cyberpunk
Me personally, I never cheese stages with him, because I can't stand to wait that long for him to recharge. Don't know about other people tho
I dont even comprehend how on any stage where he would be valuable, that you would be able to get more then one?
Dawg😭
I have been blessed by not being able to cheese with cyber punk to make the game more fun because im impatient but I always like an awakens bahumat cheese
I can already tell by the start of the video that this is going to be a masterpiece. Keep it up!
Cyberstacking is probably the most cheesiest strats in the game. But for me, I think I hate fest units, I used to like them but those like Dasli and Phono are so game breaking that it makes most of the other units you get irrelevant which ruins the fun of getting ubers.
Even detective vigler is one is the most hated despite being so useful in endgame and zombies and great handsome character design
He has one of the most useful combos in the game, which is locked behind Uber rarity. I can see why he is hated because they don't have it.
He’s only good because of the Research up combo
@@MaxiemumKarnageIncorrect. He's a good anti-relic.
@@theodorech20 a great anti relic and zombies of 100%freeze and with shockwaves ,helps alot in uncanny legends
@@astablemultivibbrator8538 Rather mediocre, he’s just an anti-relic. Talented Kenshin absolutely dogs Vigler with talents
I like all cow/giraffe/lion units
you feel like soupsata, i miss him
Give Cyberpunk Summon and every problem instantly dissappears
didnt think id watch a video essay on cyberpunk cat but man i enjoyed it nice video
CYBER'S CD IS THAT LONG? I THOUGHT IT WAS SHORT
I have Healer but I still need to wait for the next collab to TF him
I did not know that this strategy was so hated. The only time I did the cyber stack is when I saw a vid on how to easily beat manic mohawk. And I thought it was just a creative cheese method. But I guess I know now where it came from.
My favorite unit is just fish cat. Its funny, idk if its good i just like it.
CHOMP
idk why units are hated, if you dont like a unit dont use it, its a single player game
Using the cyberstack strat is basically a attention span or patience game 😅
0:29 my favourite unit are the Kai variants…………….for reasons
👀
I hate Dasli the most for 3 reasons:
1. Late game enemies powercreep because of her.
2. Some people have her and brag about the game being to easy.
3. I don't have her so I can't brag about it.
Don't blame cyberpunk for creating lame strategy like cyberstack, blame the people who created dumb stages that make cyberstack becomes the last and most accessible strategy for the general
I am quite surprised to know that the community has some beef with this regular super rare guy. For me the existance of cyberpunk helps create a great solution for end game stages where enemy stats get out of control, although as someone playing with guidemaker style I'll avoid slow and annoying strategy like pre-stacking units.
I just want to say, some people hate cyberpunk for the lame strategy based on the unit, I dislike Dasli and Phonoa because PONOS has made stages with absurd enemies combination to ultilize their newly released ubers. At the end of the day, it is our various viewpoints that creates a great BC community :)
I never knew cyberpunk was so hated. The more you know. But in retrospect I can see why that would be the case
While watching this I got Nerd Cat.
I like to use cyberpunk cause he helps me alot in most stages, by slowing them from long range and just being good at doing his role, idk why people want to cyberspace them tho
I saw this thumbnail and flipped out thinking people hate cyberpunk
I honestly hesitate to use Cyberpunk even as a support unit nowadays because he just feels so strong, even without the cyberstacking factor lol
me when this describes every one of my decks:
See. Here is why filibuster is better then every cat in the game:
he looks cool
Anyways thanks for reading
damn, i just watched your two hour vid about beating the future with only one slot that blew up. And i got here cuz some guy in the comments said "He's uploading on his new account canned juice" so i decided to check it out. ur voice has changed a whooole lot lol
to me , it's dasli, i mean her power is undeniable , reduculous powerful that could just wiped out everysingle things in a right circumstance, which make the game less strat. Well yeah , ponos try to add anti surge enimy just to counter her but you only meet those inthe very end, which mean if u have dasli in , maybe eoc1, congrat , u have just discover the ultimate weapon which will guide you to the very end of the game.Sometimes there are stages that require pure strat but in overall its will just need to have a dasli to outperform other.
I’ve never heard of a gal where people hate the character because they’re too good😂
Bro since when I literally love cyberpunk cat?
When I saw the title I immediately thought of failbuster (filibuster)
oxygen not included music! :D
what you could do is have cyberpunk in ur loadout but only use him in emergencies thats what id do
my favorite ubers have always been the lugas
Metal enemies watching:
I mean back in the day cyberpunk was more or less one of the only ways to beat aac. I never really saw hate until more recently, like the last 2 years.
Ultima Galaxy Cosmo was mentioned in this video, so by default I am required to like.
I used cyber stacking hacker cat (not cyberpunk) to barely edge out a victory on manic mohawk. The little extra bit of damage allowed me to kill the master A's and teacher bears before they could push too far
it took like 40 minutes with a speed up
No uniit is completely required? Even catasaurus?
You know it's a good day for the battle cats community when canned juice uploads a commentary video.
i’m just using cyber as a back line support
What do i do after getting all treasures and completing all stages ?
Average cyberpunk cat hater vs average cyberpunk cat enjoyer
Did u like your own comment: 💀
@@jameswang-dp3gt yes
I don't use cyber stacking often because i'm impatient
I’d say courier is more hated
Is it fine to like fillibuster personally I like bahamut but just asking cause I do like fillibuster
i use cyberpunk very casually, same with deadeye, and sometimes it’s pretty satisfying seeing the duo do so well, but having said that, i cannot deny how boring it is to stack him in strategies.
This is why I did not buy the slow talent on cyberpunk. It is too unfair with a 4 sec slow every 8 seconds
now i see how broken healer is, because of 1:50
Cyberpunks talents were made on my birthday 😅
mostly ppl who hates cyberpunk are early-mid game players (based on my experience)
Well aslong as it helps me progress i will keep using it when i need to
not using cyberpunk because of this is like not knives in the kitchen coz people use them as weapons
Correction: Filibuster Cat
i like the music from oxygen not included
sniper the cat, cyberpunk and aphrodite is the way
Cyberpunk is a good cat the only thing that's bad is the player's who use the cyberstack strat cuz there playing the game in a unfair way
I always thought Kasli the Bane was more hated than Cyberpunk, as she makes the game (outside of 4 star stages) really brainless compared to Cyberpunk.
Chad Assassilan vs. Virgin Cyber
Anyone else love fish cat or is that just me?
I have no patience to cyberstack so yea
Guys don't mind me
I (don't) have cyberpunk :)
13:01 Basic cat is actually required to beat eoc 1 korea though...
Common Eoc Korea w
Cant forget dual erasers for almost all stages in SOL unless you want to say hypermaxxing ramen is gonna be some persons choice
@@hagenaubram6341 I have level 100+ ramen so I rarely, if ever, use dual erasers. I didn't even have my eraser maxed until recently!
@@hagenaubram6341 me with level 100 ramen