Adidas Adizero Adios Pro 4 after 100 Miles: Most Durable Super Shoe... Ever!?

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  • @DoctorsofRunning
    @DoctorsofRunning  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Tried the Pro 4? Share your thoughts with us.

    • @cleric1220
      @cleric1220 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How’s the width? For reference, I mostly use the superblast (1 & 2) and do well with the width. I also used two pairs of the Adios Pro 3, and was okay with their width. Is the Adios Pro 4 wider?

  • @matthanna1980
    @matthanna1980 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I got 1500km from my Adios Pro V3. The most resilient super shoe out there IMO

  • @RedhoodedNightwing
    @RedhoodedNightwing 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    The heel tab is to make it easier to pull it on

  • @devanteross2838
    @devanteross2838 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Great review! I really hope adidas sent you the Evo SL Matt! Get well soon!

  • @billeva8457
    @billeva8457 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Wow Matt. The AP3 is my current marathon racer and I was excited about the V4 but now as a heel striker I am a little nervous about changing to the V4 for that long of a distance.😅

  • @justin3017
    @justin3017 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for the thorough review, as always!

  • @stubestrong
    @stubestrong 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    bit of a killer just to get into AP3 and love it as a passive stability runner, maybe grab some extra pairs as backup

  • @Nextman916
    @Nextman916 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Super informative review 👏 thank you!

  • @TubeCrocs
    @TubeCrocs 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Definitely go a half size up... check the size guides in centimeters as opposed to Uk & US sizing.
    Extremely comfortable on longer run
    Very responsive, Definitely a better ride that Pro3

    • @David-cg7ms
      @David-cg7ms 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes sizing guide truly matters

    • @jonahplays7113
      @jonahplays7113 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if my feet length is 26.5cm, what size should i get?

    • @David-cg7ms
      @David-cg7ms 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      44

    • @lebratjp
      @lebratjp 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you size up compared to your normal size or the size of your AP3?

    • @TubeCrocs
      @TubeCrocs 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@lebratjp example: if your UK9 in the Boston 12. You would be UK9.5 in Pro4 and well as EvoSL

  • @revivalist70
    @revivalist70 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you Matt

  • @coloriques
    @coloriques 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I chew through my left heel too. Thanks for the update, it looks promising!

  • @karls8989
    @karls8989 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    yea i got mine and took it out for a maiden voyage last weekend and wow so much more fun than my adios pro 3

    • @paulmulks
      @paulmulks 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How have you got a pair when they've not been released yet?

    • @camcamcig
      @camcamcig 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@paulmulksit’s been released under raffle situations by Adidas and Running Warehouse among others. Also there have been Paris for purchase available at the major marathons this fall starting at Berlin

  • @hamoudalnasser
    @hamoudalnasser 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    As a mid to forefoot striker, with some mild overpronation, (I run in neutral or stable neutral shoes, and have never used stability shoes), will this shoe work? Does it accommodate wider forefeet?

  • @devanteross2838
    @devanteross2838 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Also the purpose of the tab is to help get the shoe on 😅 Never really use it either but at this point it’s the Adidas “look” I’ve adopted haha.

  • @B.Wise.B.Running
    @B.Wise.B.Running 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great review !!

  • @Trailrunner1978
    @Trailrunner1978 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Durability in supershoes like the Pro 2 and 3 is extreme. Although outsole gets worn through the foam itself on the worst contact points, the foam itself is so resilient and has grip in it self. Pro 2 is better after 250 km. Same with Takumi Sen 8-9. But then again people take Vaporfly to 1000 km. No problem.

  • @brandall101
    @brandall101 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The outsole is CPU, commonly used in Chinese super shoes. It's known as being ridiculously durable, holding tread past 1000 miles, so of course it's going to show no wear at 100. Drawback is being fairly loud/slappy with a bit less traction.

  • @edwinduisburg8138
    @edwinduisburg8138 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    There are more suitable options for 5-10K runs such as Takumi Sen and upcoming new Adios 9 with full length lightstrike pro. Seems to me this shoe doing whats is supposed to do.

  • @LukenotLuc
    @LukenotLuc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You mention this might suit faster runners, but what would you view as the pace cut off? 3.5hr marathon, 3hr?

  • @FtL_CS
    @FtL_CS 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Would you say that I can get value from these on 5:00/km paces? or am I better of using trainers instead.

    • @hiimgiovi
      @hiimgiovi 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No need for carbon shoes at that pace! Go for something less aggressive like a boston12. More than enough

    • @David-cg7ms
      @David-cg7ms 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@hiimgiovi false information, boston 12 has carbon tool and slow paces benefit a lot from carbon + racing foam, more than elite, specially heavy runner that activate the propopulsion at slower paces.

    • @nguye578
      @nguye578 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It depends on what you want out of your runs. Are you actively trying to run faster and have plateaued using daily trainers? Then maybe it's worth looking into for $250. But if you are fine with running 5 min/km (which is around what I run too), maybe you opt for a more comfortable shoe that costs half that amount.
      Both should work at that pace, "value-wise" you just have to decide if you care enough about the ability to run faster and if it's worth the extra money.

    • @hiimgiovi
      @hiimgiovi 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@David-cg7ms nope. Boston does not have a carbon plate… it has glass fiber infused rods. And It is far different from carbon supershoes. Boston12 is a super trainer indeed which is more than enough for 5:00/km pace. I run in boston up to 3:30/km pace and they are fine. Below that I can feel it is not optimal and I use takumi sen 9

    • @David-cg7ms
      @David-cg7ms 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hiimgiovi boston 12 is not suited for heavy runners, adios pro 3 or 4 have carbon plates ? ;)

  • @MLHunt
    @MLHunt 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    For a beginner/'hobby jogger' like myself, the AP3 is a great shoe. Don't think I'll be jumping on this one. Maybe in a few years I'll be ready for a shoe like this lol

    • @radoslavstoev4550
      @radoslavstoev4550 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Do not underestimate yourself. The shoe looks pretty similar to the old one, just a little softer and bouncier. If you like the Pro 3, I am pretty sure you are gonna get along with this.

    • @MLHunt
      @MLHunt 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @radoslavstoev4550 thanks for the encouraging words dude

    • @dyingpentas
      @dyingpentas 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Stability is really a concern

    • @pbnotj1
      @pbnotj1 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’m slower than the guys doing these reviews but I have tracked reviews of pro 4 as pro 3 was the only super shoe I found on sale as an amateur for a reasonable price . I’m on my a second pair as I really liked the durability and tempo speed day versatility of adidas pro 3. glad to hear the pro 4 is still durable . I’m not sure about the toe box fit issue ; that might be a deal breaker for me .

    • @FtL_CS
      @FtL_CS 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is it durable to use in most of your runs?

  • @lenjanssen9600
    @lenjanssen9600 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Would you recommend for slower runners?

  • @matthewmyers7826
    @matthewmyers7826 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the Ap3. I’m primarily a forefoot striker but left foot starts to be more forefoot to almost heel with fatigue, aiming for a sub 3 hour. Would this be fast enough for this to have an advantage over the ap3?

  • @betomf1903
    @betomf1903 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review! How does it compare with the Evo 1?

  • @jonathanbalangon9671
    @jonathanbalangon9671 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Is the Adios Pro 3 much more stable in your opinion?

  • @ricardoreis3844
    @ricardoreis3844 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Alphafly 3 or Adios Pro 4 for London Marathon ( I love Alphafly and Adios Pro 3, having ran 26.2 in both)?

  • @sennysoon
    @sennysoon 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:32 that's a pull-up tab, so you don't have to squish your fingers behind your heel when putting the shoe on.

  • @alangray8952
    @alangray8952 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will you be sharing the thoughts on running in a pair 0.5 size bigger? Quite keen to get these for my spring marathon when released

    • @DoctorsofRunning
      @DoctorsofRunning  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@alangray8952 David has a half size bigger. In our written review he talks about it!

    • @alangray8952
      @alangray8952 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @DoctorsofRunning great, I'll search for that this evening 👍

  • @vallis68
    @vallis68 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For those who run half marathon at a pace of 4:50 - 5:00 (km), would you recommend this shoe?

  • @robnet77
    @robnet77 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could you please list the amount of miles you were able to run with previous super shoes? I seem to remember another creator ran over 800km in his Vaporflys 2. Obviously some performance degradation is expected as well as the mileage increases. That would be a great video! Thanks.

  • @wojtekbe
    @wojtekbe 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Adios Pro 4 vs Endorphin Elite 2 🙂

    • @markoljustina
      @markoljustina 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i should run second marathon in Sky Paris and plan to buy some of those

  • @Passthecucci911
    @Passthecucci911 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Should I pick up the AP3 still as a racing shoe/ supertrainer for 2025? Thinking about getting one if there a good deal

    • @DoctorsofRunning
      @DoctorsofRunning  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Worth a look if you can find it for a good offer!

  • @jeroen1989
    @jeroen1989 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The heel ear is just a pull tab toe my knowledge... also on the adios 8 for example

  • @jomelltan9296
    @jomelltan9296 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes. We need durability not just fast and aggressive. Some of my racing shoes don’t bother run again a marathon and turned into a daily trainer after due buying another pair colour way or new other brand racing shoe or newer version.

  • @dwhdai
    @dwhdai 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Isn’t the adios pro 3 one of the most durable super shoes out there? It’s also a bit confusing because at the beginning of this video you said the poppiness of the foam at faster paces in the AP4 went away pretty quickly, so wouldn’t that imply the foam is less durable?

    • @HolliewoodOriginal
      @HolliewoodOriginal 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He said the outsole was durable, not the midsole foam

    • @dwhdai
      @dwhdai 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      From about 7:30 onwards he compares how AP4 provides “tons more life” after about 100 miles than the AP3 did. Seems to contradict what he said earlier in the video about the bounciness being noticeably less after about 50 miles.
      The AP3 is also widely known has one of the more durable super shoes, and it’s strange to me that the AP4 which is lighter (and presumably less outsole thickness?) and has more compliant foam would be more durable.

    • @brandall101
      @brandall101 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's difficult to know really as most super shoes lose their maximum pop pretty early in their lifespan, but can continue to be great for speed work for a long time before the foam is dead. AP3 and AF3 are great examples where many runners take them up to 500 miles and beyond, but aren't really doing competitive running with them past the 150 mile point. But this is hard to parse as he's saying it's rather significant... who cares about the outsole if the foam is dead at 300 miles. TPU can last like 1000 miles on Chinese supershoes this isn't some amazing insight.

    • @dwhdai
      @dwhdai 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ yea exactly. it’s not clear what he’s referring to when he says “durability”. I’m guessing he’s referring to the fact that the outsole is still fully intact, which is rare for him, but I’d say that’s not really useful info for most runners as we don’t rip out the outsole of our shoes after 100miles (or ever tbh)

  • @DillonJan
    @DillonJan 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s a pull tab, that is on the heel collar of the shoe

  • @General1Cal
    @General1Cal 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My Pegasus with 500 miles have been great very slight wear

    • @camcamcig
      @camcamcig 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Durability is never the knock on pegasus. They are known for lasting forever

  • @MLHunt
    @MLHunt 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    David, with regard to barely getting the AP3 to 100 miles, did you wear out the outsole or did the foam die? I'm only asking because I'm a slow, midfoot/forefoot striker who doesn't wear outsoles very much, but I am heavy (200 lbs), so I tend to kill shoes by beating the foam to death. So how the foam holds up over time is the thing I look at when assessing a shoe's durability.

    • @DP-no1ny
      @DP-no1ny 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We all have different experiences with shoes but I think most ppl could still race in the AP3 after a hundred miles.

  • @bobotmeister
    @bobotmeister 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    too bad, I live in the tropics. If you don't have environmentally controlled storage... midsole seperation happens way before anything 😅😓 year 2 or 3 considering you have a large rotation.

  • @bbnd5476
    @bbnd5476 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The most durable shoe that loses it's bounce after 60miles? 😅

  • @geert574
    @geert574 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "v3 was decent I managed to get it to 100 miles" bro out here talking about 100 miles as if its achievement thats like 1 month use I'd be suing company if any shoe didnt last a month 😂

    • @michaeltanel3815
      @michaeltanel3815 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You must be new to the channel. 😂 Matt tears through shoes like a fiend.

  • @nicholas5396
    @nicholas5396 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its a pull tab.