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My system is 25 to 30 years old. I had a HVAC Tech come out and he told me to run it until it fails, that is an honest Tech.
Mime did the same 🎉
You wouldn't want to do that in Arizona in case it fails during summer.
My Heil was installed in 1988. And just had the original condenser fan replaced. 36 yrs and still cold af.
@@YooperICE Probably costing you a pretty penny, though, since it's probably incredibly inefficient.
Good luck when it conks out on you in the middle of the summer when it's 100 degrees outside and you have to wait three weeks till a tech can come replace your system... if he can even get one ordered in that amount of time.
In 2019, my elderly mother didn't ask me about it first and called a local AC company about their Lennox heat pump leaking water onto the floor. My dad was out of it with Dementia or he would have caught it. The company was such crooks that they recommended an entire new unit be installed. My mother told them she would think about it. She called them back the next day and they came back out. One of the crooks even told my mother that he laid awake the night before thinking about it and had come to the conclusion that she in fact DID need a new unit. Obviously his conscious was bothering him. Meanwhile she called me while they were actually there and I told her the condensate drain was probably clogged. She dismissed them and they got mad and told her NOT to call them ever again! Unbelievable. I called a plumber friend that sent over a man that does AC work for him and the man blew out the line and wouldn't even take money that we tried to give him. That system is still running so far in September 2023. There are some REAL crooks out there.
@@freespirit1975 You can say that again. I used to get my furnace and AC checked by a recommended and. “reputable” company that was widely praised by news channels and online comments. They did fine for a while, but then when my furnace was 14 years old, they said there was some leaking and that I needed to have it replaced. I’m no expert, but I’ve never heard of a furnace leaking water. I contacted a friend of a friend who owns an HVAC company. He looked at the furnace and said that it was fine, and confirmed that there was no reason for it to leak. And if it was leaking, it would be near the humidifier on the other side, not underneath. He then told me that we were going to make this furnace last as long as it could! He’s been HVAC guy for over six years! When I told him what company said the unit needed to be replaced, he said that he has gotten more complaints about that company.
@@Toody49I’ve said my whole life that “everything rolls down hill!” I won’t mention my state, but the governor (supposedly divested) from his HVAC, Electrical and Plumbing Company miraculously has facilities all over the state now. I stand by my statement from a year ago and even more so now; “there’s no such thing as technicians, they’re mostly sales people.”
I’ll throw this in for what it’s worth, one of my favorite books from 1998 is ‘Blood, Money and Greed: The Money Trust.’ It could have been written yesterday!
I caught a tech trying to condemn a system at a widow's house who just returned from her husband's funeral. He quoted her a $9,000 system to get back going. I asked him what the problem was right now-today. He said bad capacitor. I said dude, put the new part on and leave. He changed the cap no-charge out of shame.
That’s so effed up! Did u do a review online about it for him!? Cuz that’s some info I’d be very interested in knowing and so would a lot of other people! That’s so messed up!
@@w8what575Happens all the time!
Thank God you were there.
What a shame.
In the trade they're called "cap bandits" and they are VERY common. In fact, HVAC people who aren't crooks are rare. In general, if you see that a company has a lot of trucks running all over your town, or if the advertise on TV, you should avoid them.
My Rheem high efficiency heat pump is 34 years old. I live in C. Florida so from March until October the unit runs daily. From November to February, off and on heat or cool on when needed. I've replaced the fan motor, capacitor and contacts just once each. No leaks. I clean the evaporator and compressor coils occasionally and change the filter about monthly. I got an AC guy who maintains my rentals and gives me great prices. He told me "run it 'til it dies". Amen.
Just remember the efficiency drops, it's like anything it wears out, moving parts
My over 40 year old system is still running. Good ol sears. It was installed by my dad before I was born and now I'm still using it
GREAT. Keep it running and don't let anyone near it unless it isn't running and you can't find a solution on line.
I try to explain it to people, but they don't listen or understand, that A/C car and house are closed units, and they should run for a very very long time.
@@mutteringmale Exactly.
Wow!
Lucky
Too true! I once had 4 different A/C companies out to look at my unit and NONE of them told me the same thing, but they were all very eager to change out major parts of the system. One told me it ALL needed to be replaced. I did my research online and found out 2 things: my blower fan capacitor needed to be replaced ($12) and my motherboard needed to be replaced ($110). Did them both myself. The estimates I was give were between $1,500 and $3,500!
I learned a long time ago, you PAY for what you don’t know..
I"m an electrical Engineer. Not any kind of genius but I can tell you that the most common thing that goes wrong with Electric motors is the capacitor and the bearings. In that order.
@@tomtommyl805 yeah, my favorite ‘new gadget’ was when they decided it would be a great idea to put the plastic capacitor directly on the motor where it could just melt it.
I had a fairly new unit go down. There were so many ants packed into the controller that they blew it up. About a week or so later another one did the same thing. My ac man said the things hum and attract the ants. WOW 🤩
I have about three store fronts that’s been here for years. One I know. The others I don’t. Next to me is more dealers in a larger city that constantly advertises. The last few years I’ve got gobs of contractors operating out of vans. I don’t like to do much with a/c anymore since retired and still have my tools from apartment work. So be careful and try to get someone you know well. I won’t let anyone in my house to fix anything these days. There’s LOTS of hungry people out there!!!!😖😂😂
With repairs you have to consider age, and how much more efficient todays systems are!
We saved 33% on our electric bill with a new system and never regret it when we see that monthly electric bill!
20+ years out of an HVAC system is what I was raised to expect.
I've had HVAC techs "condemn" perfectly functional systems on me. Fell for it once when I was traveling and my wife panicked over what the tech told her. Now I get second opinions and avoid the shops known for paying big commissions to service techs.
A crooked company tried to do that to a church I used to attend. I think the unit must have come over on the ark. Lol.
My second opinion brought us a technician that had worked on the exact unit when he started in the business. In less than an hour the thing was purring like a kitten. A “church” no less!
If you take care of them I don't see why they wouldn't last for much longer then 20 years. What at worst the ac compressor goes out 500 dollar repair. Better then 5000.
How do you think they have all those fancy trucks and vans?
@@kfiscal01-- Drives me crazy.
My parents HVAC system was replaced after putting in just over 25 years of service. The one I have in my house has been good since 2003 when I bought the house. I was picked by the power company to get a free replacement blower motor about 2012. They replaced it with a brushless motor unit. I don't know how they pick who gets a replacement. But I'll take it. It's part of a program that was initiated by the state (California). Living in California we use our heaters for maybe a couple months out of the year. AC is about the same. Spring and fall is comfortable.
I had one similar to the one at the start of the video at my last house. Over 14 years I had the freon recharged twice, and the fan motor replaced once, but it still ran great. I think that thing was maybe from the early 80s. I asked the repairman if I should upgrade to a new system, and he said if it were him, he'd keep it as long as he could because they just don't make them like that anymore.
What Brand is your Ac
@@james18450 It's been a few years since we lived at that house, but I think it was Sears or Kenmore or something like that.
Replacement is the best . I replace mine and the bill was cut off half of what used to be . Some technicians want you to keep the old one so they can secure their job or income.
The repairman who told you to keep it wants to keep repairing your old system!
Our new system is running cheaper by 33%, and 9s far better than the 18 yr old one we replaced!
@@bobbear4437 I am agree with you .
My Heat Pump is a 26 year old system that runs awesome. I have had problems with it and have called HVAC companies to fix it in a few occasions but have gotten outrageous quotes and the usual “your unit is too old and should be replaced”. I have learned how to work on my system and have replaced the evaporator fan, condensers (2), replaced a Schrader valve and added refrigerant R22 saving a ton of money!
You save money by adding r22 yourself? Bullshit! Hahah
Always keep a spare capacitor and, for old systems, best to have a contactor, too.
The first time this happened to me, I was a 1st homeowner and pretty broke, My A/C unit went down, the fan wasn't fanning. I went to an A/C parts supply warehouse, explained the problem, he sold me brand new better fan, using less power, for $79 ( this was a long time ago!), I wire nutted the new fan in, waterproofed the connections with silicon calk, turn it on and walla!. Ran quieter and less power.
@@mutteringmale Voila. Good but I would have checked the capacitor first.
@@wholeNwon Hmmmm.. capacitor is part of the electrical system including the fan? I thought the capacitor just stored energy to start the energy hog pump?
KEEP CONDENSER FINS CLEAN. CHANGE THE FILTER. These 2 things WILL extend the life of your HVAC units.
Don’t use any filter above a merv 5 rating as it places too much strain on the blower
@@afridgetoofar1818 Depends. I use a 4 1/2" pleated Merv 8 and it easily lasts a few years because the hvac is used only ~4 weeks a year.
I live in North Dakota and use my A/C about 4 months a year I have lived in this house for 23 years and I think we recharged it one time ! It is actually a system from Sears that was installed about 51 years ago now !!!!!
In North Dakota, I think I'd be more concerned about keeping it warm inside, as opposed to being cool.
@@pointnIaugh that’s definitely true for sure. But about 2 months or so depending on years it definitely makes life better!
One piece of advice, for you and all of you. Run your A/C in your car and house at least once a month every month even in the middle of winter. The seals need to be lubricated and inside the sealed system is a specially designed oil called "pag oil" that keeps the seals flexible. Top off the freon once ever 10 years and I don't see why it should run 50 or more years.
Unless a leak was repaired at the same time, it should not have needed refrigerant.
@@wholeNwon All a/cs leak, it's desiegned to do so. The compressor's gasket is flexible and self lubricates, and thus a little is expected and needed to leak to to keep the PAG oil lubricating the gasket. All other parts are not supposed to leak.
So, if your corrupt a/c mechanic shows you that shiny light on the front of the compresor and it glows as a "leak" he's conning you.
Most of the times...I mean, it's a 1% chance for a late model car that the compressor shaft seal is bad.
The government constantly eliminating refrigerant is a problem
True and that is why I purchased two refills sitting and waiting!
@@niceguydmm Huge discount buying online compared to local HVAC thieves. There is zero "shortage."
33 year HVAC guy and my experience is EXACTLY yours, to the letter.
Something to consider when you have an aging system is efficiency. I had a 20-ish year old system in my small home in Florida. During the summer I was getting bills for upwards of $275. After replacing the system, my bill was literally cut in half. Yes, it cost me a few thousand to replace, but at a savings of $100-150 per month on average, it paid for itself pretty quickly.
I can relate. My bills before the switch-out were almost 200.00 higher in Phoenix. Adding a return, replacing duct work, upsizing by 1/2 ton, and upgrading the new ducts to a higher insulation rating keeps the place uniformly cool. The best part... I did it myself in 2021 after receiving the COVID stimulus and it only cost about $3,000.00!
That is not at all, always the case. I have a 30 - 35 year old Lennox 2 1/2 ton unit. in the summer my electric bill is about $80 There is NO WAY I could ever cost Justify replacing this unit as long as t runs. Esp since our cooling season is only about 3 1/2 months. Then consider that a new one will at best last you 10 years.
@@integr8er66 Mine was 28 years old at the time of replacement. It was a freon unit that had a leak as well. Freon is SUPER expensive these days, though 407C can be "dropped in". I'm glad you're getting the most from a unit that old, but for me, it was time. Doing it myself, I learned to service the unit myself and better understand its operation and maintenance. Doing that saves me quite a lot, too.
@@enkidufive3349 - R22 is touted as being pricey, but it's still readily available and a fraction of the cost if buying on the open market vs an HVAC company...
@@Snarkapotamus I have a 20 lb cylinder thats full, and I have never needed to add any. So I'll keep this one as long as I can.
My 41-year-old straight cool system is still going, and this is in Florida so it gets a lot of use. It used to burn up condenser fan motors every few years, until I replaced the 1/4 hp motor with a 1/3 (I found out the original came with an option of 1/4 or 1/3). Capacitors needed replacing twice in the last 18 years. It once had a pinhole leak near the filter drier which I replaced, but otherwise nothing has gone wrong. The compressor is getting a bit loud, but I'm hoping to get a few more years out of it.
You might think a new system would pay for itself with energy savings, but if you do the math and include moderate interest on the cost of a new system, it would take at least 30 years, and I don't expect a new system to last that long.
We have a huge problem with cheap crap that doesn't last. Where's the government when you need it to regulate. Consumer cheaters need
To be exposed. Every product should have a manufacturer stated life expectancy posted on it
So you know when you're buying a short life product
You are 100% spot on!
units that are 40 years old were all over sized, inefficient & loud you have in payments to the power company paid for a new system multiple times. power company will pay you to throw that piece of junk away.
@@santiagovasquez1404 Not at all. I live in Florida and pay about $600 per year for cooling (I know from comparing electricity costs for winter months where we use no heating or cooling to the rest of the year). At 5% interest the total amortized cost of a new $6,000 system that lasts 20 years will be $475 per year. Do you really think a new system is going to be four times as efficient as the current one?
And the old systems were not oversized - the new ones are much larger for the same tonnage - the condenser units are at least twice the size, and for some reason they try to sell everyone larger systems then in the past for the same square footage.
Too many variables (structure insulation, kWh rate and climate) to know for sure. But, I just did the math and for us, it makes sense to update to a 22SEER from our old 10SEER unit that's been costing a couple hundred a year in service charges...luckily we haven't had a serious R22 leak, but if we had (and lost it all), we'd be paying roughly $1500 just to get it recharged after the leak gets fixed!
My Rheem classic 3.5 ton heat pump from 2003 still works great & never struggles to heat and cool my home. In the last 6 years, I personally replaced the capacitor twice, the heater control board, and most recently the contactor.
I just posted that ants blew out the contactor on two units at a former house I owned. Apparently they hum or something that attracted the ants.
@@rayburnyarborough4695 Common...mice, too, if there is a crankcase heater.
I’m in North Texas and my 1999 system finally gave up the ghost, so can’t complain after 25 years of service with only maybe $1,200 spent over 17 years replacing capacitors and furnace igniter. Based on these videos, will call Atlas (if in service area).
I live in North Texas. Running the AC constantly is common from around June - Sep. Setting it at 78 degrees is not practical (especially if you're retired and live in the home all day). PM contracts are cheap and well worth it (I use Bill Joplin's...A+++ BTW). My HVAC is serviced twice a year and I routinely change the filters and use bleach solution to keep the drainage lines clear. My HVAC system is Carrier and when I purchased my new home three years ago, it came with a 10 year warranty. My HVAC technician is the same guy every time. He knows my system very well and I always pick his brain on do's and don'ts of HVAC. That's another benefit of having regular PM done by the same company.
Turned my AC on for the first time this season and it immediately kept blowing the fuse in the house furnace. Turns out it was a bad contactor coil in the condenser. Was able to diagnose it myself and repair it for $20. Sure glad I had a multimeter lying around
My ac units (York 3 and 4 ton) are 19 years old. I had some leaks in the evap coils, but took a chance on some Easy Seal. I bought some Yellow Jacket gauges and injected them in each unit. Leak tested before and after and they definitely worked.
Called a local HVAC company, that my family had trusted for years to come out and check out my system which had started making noise when the heater gas blower motor would come on. He looked at it for 5 minutes and then spent the next 30 minutes trying to sell me a new system, saying that it would go out soon. I later found out that it was just some trash in the air intake pipe, which still makes noise sometimes when the heater comes on and that was 3 YEARS AGO............ But here's the "Coop De Grassy;" about a week later I get a bill for 80 bucks for his visit and he did absolutely nothing.
And whatever you do-Don’t break down on a weekend! Instead of 80 bucks it’ll be probably double or more!😱😂😂
My A/C is now 25 years old. I live in central Texas. I do all of the maintenance myself which includes a lot of things the technician would want to do for big profits. Over 25 years, the A/C system has received routine maintenance. I have replaced a lot of critical components which would have cost, by now, thousands of dollars in overpriced parts and service calls. But in actuality, has cost me a couple hundred dollars. Everything today related to home repair and auto repair has become the biggest ripoff racket ever devised by man. And don't get me started about these rip off con artists either.
I added a portable ac window unit to help combat these louisiana summers. i turn the house unit setpoint up to 80 degrees and let the portable AC keep my room cool at 72 degrees from 10a-10p. i get direct sun all day and my bdrm windows only have a UV film and blackout curtains, so its HOT HOT. best purchase ever
When you replace your window unit, consider an inverter type. They are much quieter and more efficient. New units should be coming out that heat, too.
LOL, I do the same. Being single, I figured "why am I cooling the whole house at night when I sleep/in bedroom 9 hours a day?"
My parents have a 4ton Lennox Cirra 1983. Still running strong. Have always kept it at 65 in summers in Texas heat and it cycles on and off just fine. It’s because his cousin put it in oversized. 900 sqf house. Always over size more than what the idiots try to sell you. That 40 year old unit runs great.😊
That's impressive! I have a 1580 Sq. ft. house and will get a 5 Ton unit when the current 3.5 wears out. I believe in oversizing and it really works better that way.
@@JensenSarpy You might want to do some more research my friend. My experience has always been that over sizing can cause unnecessary short cycling of the unit that wears it out faster. I installed a hotel/ motel type unit in the house I’m in. I decided to upsize it slightly, and turned out to be a mistake. It doesn’t remove the humidity like it should so I use an auxiliary dehumidifier. Not a huge deal for me. Other than that the unit works great.
If I were you I would concentrate on your insulation package. I highly recommend installing a radiant barrier in conjunction with your other insulation, if you haven’t already. The last roll I purchased was $125 for 500sf. At the time I think the shipping was more than the product. All you have to do is lay it out over your existing insulation in your attic or staple it to the rafters. The double bubble is the ultimate. Innovative Insulation is the manufacturer in Texas. The product reflects the heat out of your house in the summer and reflects it back into your house in the winter. They are not all created equal either, when it comes to quality and price. I used to work at a fiberglass insulation factory. There’s no comparison whatsoever. I’ve had my own construction business for almost 40 years. I hope this helps! Besides much practical experience, I always do my homework! Take care!
Every year they last less. Not just A/C everything is lasting less.
My old central AC was still working perfectly fine at about 40 years old. But I replaced it with the furnace also about 40 years old. The new one works good too, but I notice my power bill went down around 50 percent with the new one.
Just curious? Has the weather been normal. It’s absolutely nuts in Tennessee. It’s up and down like a roller coaster. There are many factors to consider, you probably know.
I sold a house a few years ago that had an older Sears split unit, ac and gas furnace in it. I was having a minor issue with the furnace that I thought I had fixed. The heat exchanger looked brand new. The ac worked fine.
We sold the house and a short time later I spoke with the new owner. One of the crooked companies charged them $14,000 to replace the older units. Seems to me that that money would go a long way towards electricity. Sometimes a new thermostat can make a big difference.
With all that said, I recommend to anyone, to install a radiant barrier in the attic. I’ve used it for years and is an energy saver that could further reduce your energy bill. For $.14/ sf it’s well worth it. I get mine straight from the manufacturer in Texas. I only pass on what I consider to be valuable information. I’ve owned my construction business for 38 years and have been truly blessed. You might want to check it out.
What brand did you have that it lasted 40 years?
@Francesca G Fedders AC and Whirlpool gas furnace. Both installed in 1979 when home was new.
@Francesca G my next door neighbor still has her 1979 fedders AC in her condo. Still going almost 45 years.
Fedders went broke, units were too long lasting
As a tech I always tell people run it until it dies. There are four reasons to consider a replacement. Compressor failure, leak in evap coil, leak on condenser coil, busted heat exchangers. These only matter if the unit is out of warranty. They can still run around $1k where I live to replace even if the part is covered by warranty though.
Ok so then what happens when it dies? Middle of the summer and die of heat stroke?
Ok so then what happens when it dies? Middle of the summer and die of heat stroke?
@sirmustardofhousemayonnais9907 Humans have survived for ages without AC. You'll be ok cupcake.
We have always had Trane units simply because our HVAC guy recommends them. We have several at work and home and the oldest was installed back in the 90s and still works. We have them serviced twice a year and cleaned.
Conversely.. my Trane unit is 17 years old, only in past 6 months showing problems. The HVAC guys came out and when I mentioned replacing it with another Trane, they gave each other a funny look then explained how Trane has gone downhill. And the recommend other brands.
My Trane a/c lasted ten years before coil developed a leak
My parents ac unit was installed in 1986 and still running strong. Same with dishwasher and refrigerator. In my home in 10 years I’m on my 3rd dishwasher and refrigerator. Planned obsolescence. Remember when led lights didn’t burn out? No mine are lasting as long as filament bulbs
Get the frosted glass filament type LED bulbs. The diodes are isolated from the electronics and they are filled with helium for cooling. They last much longer.
@@gregorymalchuk272 I thought LED lights didn’t generate heat?
@@TomBTerrificwho told you that lol? Leds can get pretty hot
It’s not so much the LED that gets hot as much as it is the driver or electronics that power the LED. That’s also what is the usual component that fails, not the LED it self. They could easily use more robust drivers but then you wouldn’t keep buying new bulbs.
Everything is cheap and designed to fail these days, and companies get away with it because there is no one in government that gives a craap about the common people.
Samsung equipment is the very poster child of crummy electronics designed to fail within about 6-7 years.
If PROPERLY serviced annually, at LEAST 20 years!
I have seen older, but they were terribly inefficient on electric bills.
Now, the biggest headache is the neverending change of new expensive refrigerants that won't work in existing systems.
Even worse is the poorly educated or crooked service people and crooked contractors that give an honest trade a bad image.😡
I was in the trade for over 45 years and NEVER tried to cheat or bamboozle a client.
There are bad apples in every profession (sadly). Thank you for your honesty and integrity.
I had two companies come out to service this year. First one was apparently only wanting to replace the entire system; after all, it's been around for 17 years, so that means it needs to be replaced !! Gave a quote for basically $18K to $23K. Stated the refrigerant was a bit low, but that the refrigerant is no longer available. Noted that the AC compressor is drawing towards the higher side of the rating, and the fan is sort of noisey. Believe he also said that a new fan for the condensor is $1100, and compressor towards $6K ( 3.5 ton unit ) .
The second came out and actually put refrigerant in the system. Also gave a quote, a bit cheaper, but never heard of the DAIKIN brand. But the AC is back in working order. Debating when to change it out; but right now, it is working; leaning towards leaving it till next year and seeing how it goes.
I just had mine changed last year because I'm getting old and it really wasn't cooling very well. In the 30+ years I've lived here, I had it serviced twice with no apparent problems. I did some mods to it myself that did improve it's performance. I believe it's the original one when this condo was built in the 70's.
It was not cooling well for a reason. I suspect the service guy did nothing but charge you a service and trip fee and run off to the next customer. My bet is that you used that same guy for the whole new system. How much did that cost?
My nephew works in this field and he just switched employees because his old one made them lie to customers to replace entire systems. He refused to lie to customers. This caused problems so he switched companies.
On my own unit I replaced 2 capacitors and one fan motor. I set my own furnace ran my own duct work (laid out by the owner of the mechanical distributor). He also installed the line set to my system. I did the rest. When my system does go out again I will likely fix it again. Just like I am roofing my own house right now. Just like I rebuilt my outboard boat motor last month. I find all of this stuff to be pretty elementary. You can read a book over the weekend and know all you need to know in 90% of the situations. Well that doesn't apply to everyone. My brother in Law is a skill trade electrician and can't even light his own hot water heater.
My heat pump has lasted since 1997! I have had a few parts replaced but other than that it runs great! Going on 27 years and still running great!
It’s amazing….
What brand is it ?
I really think that one of the reasons it has lasted so long is it sets on the side of the house in the corner and the sunlight never hits it! It may mean nothing But I just have a feeling the sun and heat will take a toll on it if it was in the sunlight!@@yuriigorg721
Two most important things .... replace air filters because not only will it wreck the efficiency because of low air flow if you get that evaporator coil full of dirt it's going to cut the air flow and wreck dehumidification .... Second is keeping the condenser coil clean .... A dirty condenser coil will make your compressor work harder than it needs to lowering it's lifespan and both will cause you to burn much more electricity than you need to
Low end filters are better than high end ones due to increased air flow. Just change them out more often
I just had my heat pump full system replaced yesterday by Atlas and the whole experience was great. From Jorge the initial tech, Pete in sales, and Isreal and his dad installing the system. They were all very thorough and install was great. I had been researching companies for awhile when I came across this channel. I appreciate the honesty, upfront pricing, and no commissions. It is what sold me on going with them.
What was your total cost?
$12,900 Carrier 5 Ton 2 Stage 16 SEER@@dougfisher1813
I agree with folks saying they saw an efficiency improvement with a new system. I am licensed hvac, but as a facilities mgr I do mostly package rooftop units and refrigeration, so I know how to repair and maintain and I got 21 years out of my Bryant 410a units at home. I replaced them this June (same tonnage and gas but higher seer) and saw a $250+ per month savings for July and August. We did have a cooler summer than last year, but I was more than pleasantly surprised.
Nice to have this input from you!. My Day and Night AC unit is going strong after 30 yrs. Yes we done stuff to it but nothing major. Most recent was the condenser fan. Thanks.
My last AC unit lasted 41 years. The plate was so worn you couldn't read anything on it.
It still worked, just not so well, and since I had to replace the furnace, also 41 years old, it was worth it to replace it.
We had a Rheem of 1994. It still works. All it needed was a new capacitor. We and the previous owner never set the temperature below 70F. Most of the time we set it to 77F (75f measured in room)
We had a Ruud (essentially the same as Rheem) in our first home, built in 1993 and still going when we moved out in 2018 or so. I drove by the house a year or so ago to point out to the kids where they lived when they were little and the unit was still there.
I'm runnin' a thirty something straight AC with furnace but was retrofitted with R-458A (Bluon) a few years back and have no complaints. I've some acquaintances that have told me about their "newly installed" systems and the expense. I asked if they thought the replacement was totally necessary versus just repairing the existing unit and all of them just shrugged and said it was what "She Wanted". I'm divorced, so lucky me!
central valley in california - 100 to 110 is pretty common. I like your clear, precise videos. Thank you. Wish you guys were in our area..our 2011 day and night (mare) system - condenser and evaporator have been replaced multiple times - bad batch of oem components - well known problem. Installer has retired . Went with a new company to trouble shoot when it wouldn't stay within 2 degrees of setpoint - always a tip off that it's low on refrigerant. 450$ service call and replaced capacitor BEFORE checking the pressures (same visit)- it had leaked down over the winter. Couldn't isolate the line set, but pressurized the lines with nitrogen and determined it's either the line set or the evaporator (in the attic with the gas furnace and blower) - quoted 3-4k$ for replacement evaporator. decided to replace with a carrier- performance.. single stage - ac and gas - 15k , vs 10k of 2011 day and night.. I might have made a huge mistake :) But for a 1500 sq foot house, your video's have helped me with my "confirmation bias" - the new company didn't really give me options - good, better, best. just said - here's our estimate for anew system.. with temps heading up - I did not want to delay. And your video on refrigerant again changing in 2025, now is not a bad time to get a new system, but 13 years seems really a short life time. :) Thank again.
That’s how all the new stuff is and will be….government has regulated the manufacturers to make things more high efficiency and shorter lifespan since we live in socialist America now, we have no other choices and the government dictates what we can and can’t have…the new Freon isn’t nearly as efficient as the r22 is but since we allow psychopaths to dictate what science is most of which they pull out their rear ends and we eat it up like it’s fact…they’re going to also be banning oxygen which is considered a greenhouse gas and is blamed for the ozone being depleted ….ehat a joke! Freon is simply methane propane butane etc….not manmade synthetic and does break back down to its natural elements but to keep us having to spend money they use word salad to confuse us and think it’s bad….i hate this reality because of these psychopaths…don’t get me started in washing machines!
@@w8what575since you’re on the subject, they can boost your smart meter and catch your refrigerator on fire 🔥!
I like this guy. Running your home at 65F in the summer is really bad. Not only will it stress you A/C system, there is a much higher likelihood of generating condensation in your home's wall and under the windows leading to mold.
I have 2 4- plexes built in 1982. One had cheap units and I replaced them last year. I was going to change the other ones but haven't had any problems for years. And there in Arizona. So they last longer than you think.
Mine is at least 25 years old. It's been like 110 for the entire last week, and more 110+ days are expected (central CA). I set my thermo at 82 and the AC still kicks on.
Great video!!!! My parents Lennox lasted 27 years and just has heat strips since it is in FL. It was still working fine when they replaced it they just wanted a new system. It had a fan with a grease fitting it was so old.
I work on HVAC for a living my system is 21 years old here in the Midwest i use it from May to October because of my allergies and the day that the compressor does die I'm more than likely going to change the compressor and use a r22 replacement refrigerant and then get 20+ more years out of it . By the way great video it's awesome to have someone call out these fake HVAC techs that don't care to learn about proper troubleshooting and use scare techniques to try and replace equipment that is really still good or should be repaired.
Just helped a friend do the same. The refrigerant is constantly changing, as you probably know. $40/lb Whew🤬!
Never PM…. Change correct filters on time… rinse outside condenser 4 times per year…. Change the capacitor every 5 years…. I never go down…
I wish my elderly widow friend had asked me about A/C before she called this contractor (Austin TX) and he came out and said exactly what you said he would say. "It's getting old and wearing out, you need a new system". About $11,000 later, she proudly showed it to me. I asked how old it was, and she started getting defensive, like all people who know they got taken.
She told me, and I said 'Hmmmm...that the same exact age as mine (we live in same neighborhood). I added 1/4 # of freon to it 3 years ago, and 19 years ago when I bought the house, the same honest A/C guy added 3/4 # to a 28 year old system. Works fine.
I know he's honest, because I sent him to a friend of mine who's system was down, about the same age, but I knew about capicitor problems. I told him to call me before authorizing service.
He said it needed a new capacitor and with trip charges etc, it was $200. In AUSTIN, home of the rip off artists.
There’s no such thing as technicians. They are mostly sales people. There’s a drastic lack of training!
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Change the filter yourself and only call a repairman if something breaks.
Proper Installation = install it on the North side your house so it stays out of the sun. It is not rocket science.
Do this and your A/C will last 40 years.
Ya I had a small leak. Needed a shot of freon every 4 years. Told them to find the leak and put a shot of freon in it. He said it takes r22 and it's impossible to get any that I need a new system. Called a little ac guy and he was like we have r22 drop in replacements. Freon and the leak fixed 150 dollars. Vs 8k that the other guy told me it would be to replace. My ac works like a champ in hot summers of Texas.
@Novusod what would you do if that wasn't an option? Build a sun shade over the unit?
While there is a lack of training for some companies, there are honest technicians, and the units lifetime is based on installs, maintenance, and how often it’s ran. If you run your home at 63 when it’s 90+ degrees outside, and having high humidity in the home during these times, there’s a higher probability of rust that can develop on a coil. This also goes back to install/type of AC installed. If you install cheap equipment, or off brands, expect not to get a long life from equipment. Location and weather have a lot to do with a system. Please don’t say there are no such thing as technicians or we are just sales people. While I do have a family, I have MANY customers that request only me out, due to my honest opinion, and what options they have, not just try to shove new equipment at them all the time.
@@therealhvac Have you read my other posts? I have explained everything honestly and sincerely. I was basically responding to the title of this video. I speak 100% from experience. I’ve ran my own construction business for 38 years and just about seen it all.
Right now I have an “honest to goodness” car mechanic. You sound like a very honest person, probably older I suspect. I’m 71 and been truly blessed over the years. My clients always waited on me, as do yours. If anyone ever loses their reputation, they are sunk. Pretty much all of my business has been word of mouth. All of the work I have ever done has been done as if I was working on my own house.
As to my comment here, many posts have the same concerns. I was mainly focusing on the large companies. Im not embarrassed to say that the governor of my state “owns” an HVAC, plumbing and electrical company. Man did it explode when he became governor.
I’ll give you one for instance. An electrician friend of mine missed a service call one night. He called the lady the next morning and was told that the governor’s company came out (after hours) and charged her $450 to change out one gfci receptacle.
So if haven’t, please look at my other comments. I think I explained myself very clearly. Take care!
My cousin was an HVAC technician and he advised me on how to extend the life of both my home ac system and ac in my autos. Most of us use the ac from say April through September but not often from October through March. He told me from October to March turn the ac system on for 5-10 minutes once a week. There are lubricants inside the system that circulate and keep the seals pliable and intact. If one doesn’t continue to let the system run from October through March those seals will deteriorate and cause problems. I have been doing this for years and my home ac unit lasted 27 years and I have a 2001 Honda Accord and a 2004 Jeep Wrangler and both vehicles still blow cold and keep the vehicles cool in summer.
I’d love to see the video idea you mentioned about good vs bad installations. I hear all over and all the time that the installer matters most. But as just a dumb homeowner, how can I tell?
May I share a story with you? Of course I’m in construction but if I don’t learn something new every day I feel like I’m backing up. I was remodeling my house and contracted a company, mainly for my kitchen cabinets and countertops. I do most everything myself, excluding quartz countertops. My next door neighbor was having some tops put on a small island in his kitchen. I just happened to catch the guy measuring his tops and spoke very briefly. Well, my neighbor had one of the most horrific jobs done that I had ever seen.
When I got ready for my tops, lo and behold this same guy shows up. I stepped outside, explained the situation, and told him right out, that if he didn’t promise that he would send his top crew to install my tops, he was not coming in my house.
During my install I think there were about eight of them there at one point. Most of them just stopped by to make sure everything was going smoothly. I was more than pleased with the job. So yes my friend, the installers make all the difference in the world. Sometimes, the squeaky wheel still gets the grease! Blessings!
Homeowners can keep their unit running for years. Clean the condenser coil every spring. Test the capacitor every spring and mid summer with a voltmeter that has a micro farad scale. Replace if weak and keep a spare capacitor handy. Change your filters every 2 months and install a surge protector on the ac disconnect. Do this and you will rarely need a service call
I guess the micro farad scale is the key? I was at an electric motor repair shop many years ago. I looked out back and there was literally a ditch with a wire running out to it. I was curious so I asked what it was for. I was told that they tested capacitors back there. They would energize them and if they blew up, it meant that they were good. Process of elimination I guess, since capacitors are relatively inexpensive.
However, I was talking to a friend recently and he had to have his capacitor replaced on his unit. Boy, did they ream him a new one!
Good information, thank you. Last year I was having an issue with our heat/ac here in Florida. I called a local company and told them I needed a tech to come out and diagnose the problem. So, at appointment time a small sedan pulls in the driveway and a guy gets out wearing khakis and a button down shirt. He looks at the data plate on our unit and says"it's 12 y/o, you need a new unit." I ran him off real quick and called another company who fixed it with no issues.
I had mine checked twice last year by the same company. I got 2 different answers. One was clearly a sales pitch.
Who wants a home at 78-80°? Size the system right to be able to handle the heat load. Midwest here and AC is 65° all summer. Very rare to see those 100+ days however we do get many above 90. Two story home and I find even 70° upstairs is uncomfortable during the summer months.
are you santa. Why u need ur house that cold
@@mattheww797 It is proven you sleep better when the temperature is cool. In that 60-65° range. Nothing better than when it is 90°+ outside with high humidity and you walk in the door to a cool 65° and 45% humidity. Creature comforts.
@@joshsansone5113 65 is kinda crazy shock cold. I am not a fan of extreme changes from outside. Maybe if it is 80 outside, but our insulation is so good, our system does need to come on. Its 73/74.
I change out my capacitors every three to fours years just as a PM item because it's cheap insurance as well as cleaning my condenser coil every year and evap coil every two - three years. My Trane 2 Ton is 39 years old and still running strong blowing out 52 degree air at the living room floor vent on a 99 degree day such as we are having here in Southern NJ right now. Heat index of 108 today ! My tip is, turn it on and let it run. Cycling on and off is what kills compressors. I'll turn the thermostat down to say 65 and just let it keep running. As it cools off outside during the evening hours I'll turn it off completely at the breaker box so the thermostat transformer is off as well. That's my story and I'm stickin too it. May not work for everyone, but it's been working for me for years. Chill out everyone, stay COOL !
Mines been working 22 years and still going strong. Take care of your equipment and learn a little and it’ll last you forever. Most hvac stuff is really simple. Too many folks get taken advantage of.
I have replaced for $40 the fan motor and we have to replace the starting capacitor about every 6-8 months because of the lightning in the Tampa Bay Area.
You might want to invest in a whole house surge protector/power conditioner unit, especially in the world capital of lighting.
One of mine on my house, for the ground floor, is the original one from when the house was built in 1974. Cold as ice. Works great. I check it as I should, keep coils clean, check caps, even add oil to the vent fan bearings. Not efficient but wow, what quality is that. Im in Florida, so its run most of every year for 50 years.
You make excellent HVAC videos. To the point - - which is what I like!
My dad's HVAC was over 30-years old MN.
he and mom changed the filter ever 3-months.
The guy my dad had come over is a hometown guy a little over 3000 population.
I was classmate of his brother, my sister and his sister.
Everyone knew his grandfather.
Referring to proper installation: Many people think they are saving money by having an unlicensed person install their new unit. I know for certain, they will lose money. The unlicensed person who installs your unit has very little knowledge of how it works. He does not know much of anything about the refrigerant he is using. He simply goes by what pressures he has learned from other unqualified persons. He is usually just a parts changer. He will not pull a vacuum on the system because he dose not own a vacuum pump(they are very expensive). He dosen't know what pulling a vacuum on a system does. (It removes the moisture from the air in they system, which interacts with the refrigerant, causing it to turn acidic. The acid in the system will eat away the thin coating on the compressors' wiring, causing them to short together, necessitating replacement of the compressor. This will shorten the lifespan of a compressor drastically. Where a system should last 20 years, it usually fails 10 years or earlier. They also will mix refrigerants to "top off" a system. This results in the oil becoming solidified, clogging up the metering devices on your unit, necessitating replacement of your entire system. Many of these unlicensed "tech's" are from the multifamily communities. In many cases, your warranty on your equipment will be denied by the manufacturer, unless installed by a certified, licensed individual. Improper installation is the biggest reason your system fails before the warranty runs out. Be forewarned.
Wasn’t it a federal offense to work with Freon without a license? Great post! I highly recommend the installer getting a permit. It’s required in Tn. for new construction. The industry is changing rapidly.
I have a unit from original house being built... 1998. I've changed the capacitor 3 times and the top fan. It's been serviced only 1 time and after that I've been maintaining it myself with TH-cam videos. They even checked it couple months a lookgo by local hvac tech and he said it's old but it's still running ok. No leaks and he said it was still pretty cold. At this point i can see it failing anytime soon. It's been really running hard on 100 degree weather.
But i can definitely see me replacing this to save money on electric bill.
Nice job. I would differentiate the environment they operate in, I'm commercial, and we usually say 12-15 year lifespan. Equipment these days, unfortunately isn't built like it used to be. Commission sales techs make all of us look bad.
Turns out none of the technicians could tell me what was wrong and they wanted me to tell them and then would try and fix it. Turns out HVAC system had a lot of leaks and had refill with Freon frequently. Since system was not even 10 years old very frustrating. Decided to replace entire system and cost about $7,000. Basically , just trying to screw you in end and just as likely just flat out don’t understand their craft. If I were you, I would learn everything I could before I got estimates and repairs.( I needed the old type Freon so that was a big factor. The old stuff is expensive and harder and harder to get)
Great series of videos that you all have put out. Thank you for your service; however, have you considered making any video about mini-splits. Which brands to consider, reliability operation life, or even how hard is it to get them serviced. Thank you!
I’ve got a 12 year Mitsu m/s with a stuck switching valve. The original installer guessed $2-3k to repair, but suggested new at $14k (18k btu, single inside air handler). It was a new tech accompanied with a sales guy. I got a second opinion, guy didn’t want to repair and would not give me a ballpark number for new (even though I found a system delivered for under $2k). Will try again after the holidays.
I am lucky! I found a great A/C guy who doesn’t constantly upsell! In fact, I had to talk him into replacing my 16 year old cheap, “builder grade” heat pumps! Each unit was internally leaking coolant and had been costing me ~$600 a years for at least 5 years. Although he said he could squeeze a few more years out of it, I was in the rare situation that I had the money to do the work now and I figure that the cost would just be higher a few years later plus with the savings on the electric bill each month (the new system cut the bills in half, by the way), there was no real benefit in putting it off! Those old systems from the 1960-1980s were great in that they were built like tanks with copper and brass cooling parts that could be repaired if they started leaking, unlike all the thin aluminum used today. It wasn’t uncommon to see late 1960s units still running strong in the mid south in the early 2000s! The only downside to them was their lack of efficiency and high coolant recharge costs. I suppose most of the units that old have expired by now, from complete exhaustion if nothing else!
My systems lasted 47 yrs. Replaced them because the cabinets were rusting very badly, the compressors needed to be rewired and I replaced a contactor with the last one of its type in existence. So parts were becoming an issue. Got a good deal with 2 complete systems with everything from T-stats to circuit breakers to cutoffs, etc. with transferrable 10 yr parts and labor on everything for about $6200. I know how to install a system and the installer did a really excellent job. Installation is absolutely critical and there's only ONE right way to do it. If you don't know what that means, READ and LEARN. My advice to most homeowners is that, once a correct installation is done, keep the area around the outside cabinet (condenser/compressor) clear so air flows freely and don't let anyone touch it. No "routine PM" ever so long as the systems are functioning well. Techs will damage the Schrader valves and they will leak. They will contaminate your refrigerant. They will use harsh coil "cleaners" and damage them, etc. Make a note of your capacitor type and buy a spare or 2. Do not cover the units completely in the winter. Replace your own inside filters when needed. Do not exceed MERV 8. Do not buy complex and very expensive systems in the name of "efficiency". Simplicity is almost always best. Brand is not important. Inexpensive units are just fine. VERY expensive brands are usually mistakes for a variety of reasons.
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@@wholeNwon that’s crazy it lasted that long is all I’m saying
@@southside6924 It is amazing but not unique. Systems can last a very long time IF they are installed correctly (many/most aren't) and if you keep "techs" away from them. I never let any of them touch a properly functioning system...ever! Just keep it clean and uncovered. No harsh chemicals on the case or condenser coils.
@@wholeNwon yea trust me I understand that I’m a HVAC tech myself and when it comes to clean and checks, the first thing I ask is if the unit is working properly (blowing cold air) and if they say yes I DO NOT put gauges on the unit I just clean the coil and drain lines and check electrical components.
Company came out to check my AC. Airflow was a little weak. Freon pressure was good. Said evaporator coils were dirty. They said the system was working "great" but since it was 13 years old he recommended replacing the whole thing (heat pump). When I came home, I saw that the CONDENSER was impacted on the eastern side with thick dust. He never told me that.
Bought window units cut my bill in half.never replaced the big ac unit,couldnt be happier not dealing with a rip off contractor!!
I used to work HVAC and while I am always for running a piece of equipment until you can't anymore, it's worth noting that it isn't always the service company's faulty. It is sad to say, but it is true that newer equipment tends to not last as long as some older stuff. I big problem I found was some of the new stuff is WAY over engineered. Too many moving parts for too little efficiency gain, and the parts were more expensive to fix. Give me an AC or heat pump that's just a compressor, contactor, capacitor and fan any day.
24 years, Rheem 10 SEER. It was still working fine when we replaced it. Charged maybe a few times and I changed the starter contactor twice. Just didn't want to worry each year if "this" will be the summer it quits. Plus now with this 16 SEER I'm saving on the bill. Was a good decision to replace ti. I wished I would have replaced it sooner with the bill savings.
78-80 degrees lol. 74 is about the threshold for tolerable in the south during the summer.
Yep. Anything above 75 becomes VERY uncomfortable. Also, it doesn't cool off all that much at night in the south, so that 80 degree inside temp will still be high when it's time to sleep.
@@gestapoidYeah a thermostat at 78-80 degrees in Georgia, no thanks, that’s madness.
I have a 20=year-old heat pump that was installed when my house was built. I use it to heat 8-months each year and to cool an additional one week per year.. Despite never having had it cleaned or maintained, it continues to run great.
Service Patriots from Portland OR is a preferred Home Depot vendor and recently offered a $29 tune-up that's regularly $99. I jumped at the chance to get my system tuned up. The tech came out, never tuned anything, never cleaned anything, and never even changed out the air filter. Instead, he took a bunch of pictures of my heat pump, handed me a $6,700 estimate to fix it, and recommended I schedule a visit with his peer who will come over and give me an estimate on a new one since mine was so old. Well, it turns out, swapping out a 3.5 ton heat pump and air handler costs $23,000. That's just for the new system, my ductwork, electrical wiring and etc. are in perfect condition. In addition, the tech said the space for my outdoor unit and indoor air handler is an installer's dream.
I declined the offer. It could have been worse, the estimator said changing out a system can cost up to $30,000.
I replaced my 33 year old HVAC unit a couple years ago when the evap coil finaly gave out. The new AC was much more efficient. It draws only 2500w vs 3500 for the old one and cycles are only about 20minutes out of an hour vs 30 for the old one. I'd say 50% savings over all. The tech said the old unit was probably a 14 SEER but closer to 10 due to age vs 16 for the new one. The heater is probably more efficient too but less of a factor. Some times it's worth it to replace a little earlier if the old unit is very inefficient.
I can relate to what you wrote about old unit being inefficient.
When my 1973 refrigerator broke down in 1993 and had it replaced with a current model year unit, my electricity bill went from, on average, $45/month to $21/month.
All else being equal with household electrical usage, that 1973 refrig was an energy hog.
@@bloqk16 I would KILL for a $45 a month light bill!
A new system may be more efficient but savings are diminished if have a shorter life.
I agree, I replaced a 15 year old single stage and speed 10 SEER system for a two stage variable speed 18 SEER system and easily saw a 50% reduction in heating/cooling costs as well as it being quieter and just overall working better. I also got back $750 from the power company for installing an efficient HVAC system!
Im an a/c tec and installer. My company also pay us salary. So we are not trying to sell to make money we just let the customers know the truth and let them decide. I feel its always the most honest tecs you will find.
Good for you. The largest company in our city actually has acting classes where "techs" learn to convince vulnerable people to get (poorly installed) replacement systems that they don't need.
Our last Rheem AC lasted 20+ years. Was still running fine but there was a freon leak somewhere in my system (I'm sure it was within A coil but could not find it). Old freon was made obsolete by government regulations and just got too expensive refill due to federal restrictions and ended up replacing it. New carrier is soooo much quieter.
Same here.
$1200-1600 for R22 Refill were some estimates.
18 year old system.
Never serviced.
Died at the 15-16 year mark.
Similar to maintaining vehicles. Before the pandemic, vehicle owners would trade in cars instead of repairing/maintaining them. Today, more people are repairing their vehicles due to the cost and financing.
My Goodman HVAC is about 24 y/o. I've done a few minor repairs on it myself and had pros work on it a few times. Over all the a/c part has done fairly well in about a 2300 sq. ft. house. The electric heating has been fairly problematic and if not for our fireplace and having to run some supplemental portable heaters we would have extremely high electric bills. I am thinking about going with a heat pump system but I definitely have a limit as to how high I'm willing to pay to get one. I looked at a Trane Lowes had on display last year and at over 10 grand that's not gonna happen. I haven't really priced any units. I am leaning towards a heat pump unit with supplemental electric heat included in the unit. I haven't really seen one of them but it sounds like it might be the best solution for us. Our vent system is in the attic and is not well installed, but working on it is quite problematic. You would have to see it to understand what I'm talking about. I went ahead last year and stayed one more year with our current unit, but when it gets really cold in winter or really hot in summer both the a/c and the heat can't do a really good job even though I don't set the thermostat down super low. I tend to stay around the 75 to 78 degree range. I'm in Missouri and we do have extremes of heat and cold, but normally winters aren't too extreme but summers can get pretty hot here.
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"I am leaning towards a heat pump unit with supplemental electric heat included in the unit" - We're in SW MO with a heat pump and the supplemental (emergency) heat isn't all that great. AAMOF, just this week we had the HVAC tech out twice because it wouldn't cool. Come to find out, one of the heat strips was stuck on! We now know why our electric bills were so high the last few months...
Yeah, I've got an old York gas pack that was installed in '97. What's amazing is this house was a rental for over a decade with a lot of different tenants, so you know it took a beating.
Mine 23 yrs old, still going strong. R22, I stockpiled parts when I saw this coming. Including Freon. FJB.
I hate biden but R22 stopped being manufactured around 2012. You also need 608s to buy refrigerant so I'm doubting this post.
@@handlesaredumb1 Retired HVAC/R 38 yrs of service, I have t shirts older than you.
@chiefjoseph8154 AH yes, so you're part of the generation that thought lead water pipes was a good idea. You're experienced enough to know that it's a federal crime to add refrigerant to a unit with a known leak then.
@@handlesaredumb1 Incorrect. 608 not required to buy R22 online. When purchasing you have to check off on the form you will not use it yourself and only plan to resell to a licensed individual. It's not like the EPA gods are going to be in the backyard when you pull out your gauges.
My Maytag AC is 32 years old. I had a switch weld itself on about two weeks ago. This weekend the capacitator burned out. The Tech said that more failures would be happening as the compressor is showing sporadic amperage readings. I am having my HVAC contractor sales person out tomorrow to give me an estimate on a new AC.
Great advice, as always. Like your honest conversation on what’s going on, in general, for the homeowners to be on the lookout for!
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
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I knew a lady who owned a bunch of rentals that had a heat pump installed new…the tenant complained the ac wouldn’t work so she sent us over to take a look at the typical stuff like cleaning the filters etc….i walked down the stairs and saw the copper line hanging…it had never been finished being installed!!! The only way she could get it fixed for the tenant was by having it replaced again! My guess is that he never installed a new one and simply just finished installing the new one that was sitting there that he never finished a few years back…the guy was a crook but she couldn’t find anyone to do the hvac on her rentals …they simply wouldn’t show up or even call her back….its such a joke how picky these hvac guys are with whom they’ll do work for….she wasn’t a poor woman either and had plenty of work that would have kept a retired hvac guy pretty well covered with cash flow…..it’s crazy how many new acunits get trashed after only a few years too because these guys won’t work on anything and want to do all new installs pathetic really
Well, speaking as a commercial HVAC technician, I can tell you that a residential system should last 25 years, but nothing made in the past 15 years is going to last that long because the entire residential segment….from service companies to manufacturers….. has decided that about seven or eight years is about what you’re going to get it out of a residential system….because they want to sell systems and they don’t want to repair them. They don’t want to have to hire technicians who know how to repair them. They want to hire sales people who know how to sell them. Lots of TV commercials and bright service trucks and white shirts on the technicians and top dollar for every single install. I am so glad that my job puts me in zero basements, zero crawlspaces, and zero attics.
You promised some tips to help us extend the life of our A/C. A lot of talking but the only 2 tips mentioned was changing the air filter and conduct regular PM by calling a technician.
Look into installing a radiant barrier in your home. It is a reflective insulation and can save you lots of money on your energy bill and reduce the strain on your HVAC
I realize this is bad, but i simlly dont trust any hvac tech. The few ruin it for the many. Im learning all i can so i can work on if myself. Im a disabled vet and live on a fixed income.
You are absolutely right. Keep a spare capacitor handy and, if your unit is 10 yrs. or so old, consider a spare contactor, too. Amazon stocks them and can deliver quickly, it needed.
Highly respect your thinking.
I'm one of the folks you talk about. I live in vegas and the temp routinly hits 110 to 115. Ive had heat stroke twice and cant handle the heat. My house stays 68 year round. My unit is from 05, so a bit old. I just keep fixing it myself as needed. They charge crazy prices around here for a 3.5 to 4 ton unit. Upwards of 11 grand. I dont know many folks that can afford that, me included. If it ever goes down hard km in deep trouble.
I was there on vacation one time the temperature was 114 and its hard to stay out at night and walk, so I stayed in the hotel or inside the Casino. I don't know how people live in Las Vegas with that heat. You got to have a very reliable AC or you get fried.
If I kept my AC at 80, I would sweat my head off. I keep it at 75 in Central Va.
In 2021 I replaced my HVAC system for my apartment in NYC. The installer, All AC & Heating, did a hack job installation. I had them reposition the new indoor coils and furnace to be inside the closet instead of the attic space, to better have access to that stuff in case of repairs. The installer passed through the ceiling the two 10 inch flex ducts, the 2 refrigerant lines, power cord, and thermostat cable, all together, through 1 big rough square hole, 2 feet by 2 feet, with sharp jagged edges (aluminum sheet ceiling area). So, 2 flex ducts touching each other, with cuts on them, and no seal between the closet space and the attic, allowing the system to draw in air from the attic space, and vermin and condensation, when the system is working, and letting conditioned air escape into the attic space when the system turns off, which would lessen the life of the system if left like that. He did cut out one hole just for the exhaust pipe, but made the hole too big with an unsealed air gap around the pipe. The spliced connections between the thermostat and the other components were left exposed instead of putting them in a junction box. I spent 7 weeks fixing all that before using the system the first time. I'm also in court suing the jerk off.
Thank you so much for these videos! These are great!
My Carrier AC is 28 years old and my Carrier Weathermaker 9200 is 21 yrs old. I've changed the capacitors a couple of times and stuck in a new contactor as preventative maintenance. I've toyed with replacing, but my wife says to wait till they quit....I take care of them. Who knows how long they'll go? I do keep spare capacitors on the shelf, just in case....$8 to $10.... I figure it's cheap insurance, and saves me from driving all over hell's half acre to ind the right one. I have no doubt both units would have been long gone if I wasn't a competent DIY'er
Keep it running...these newer models will not last like your old Carrier.
No mention of the refrigerant problem?. Many of the older units used a refrigerant you can no longer get or is extremely expensive.
I have a 4 plexus built in 1982. Have never had a problem with the refrigerant. If I do I'll change the units. There in Arizona and work hard.
My ComfortMaker furnace and AC still strong at 27 years. Tech came out once to check it out last year and said all looks good. Just change the filter every 2 months is all I’ve done with it.
The main problem with modern systems is the evaporator coils corrode and leak refrigerant. My house has been through 3 of them in 10 years. Its ridiculous, the EPA should investigate all manufacturers. Keep your old system running as long as you can...
My 3rd coil is now leaking on an almost 12 yr old unit
That is my thought. I watched another HVAC channel the guy was demonstrating a tool to tell how much life your compressor has left. He tested a 20 year old compressor that showed like 100% life left. He tested a new unit. It showed it was almost time to replace the compressor. I have absolutely zero trust in this entire industry. From those making and selling products to those servicing and installing.
OLD COPPER COILS FOR THE WIN
I built a new home in 2008. I live in Iowa and installed geothermal. It is a Climate Master. Never had a problem with it.
Well I say 10 to 12 years and you are done,you can keep it longer if you are willing to pay for all kinds of repairs,but at that point you are better off by just getting a new unit.
Not true at all for a DIY’r
That's not true.
I have a Trane that was installed when the house was built in 1986, so 38 years old! It's of course not the most efficient at 6.5 seer, but the electric bills are not too bad. The only repairs I've had to do was replace the blower motor once, and probably 5 or so start capacitors prior to me putting in a start assist to help prevent blowing any more. I have had to get the Freon topped off a couple times the past 14 years, so there must be an extremely slow leak. Over all, can't even be mad if it died tomorrow, it served us well.
Innovative Insulation is in Texas. Look into installing a radiant barrier in your home, if possible. Maybe even wrap your ductwork with the double bubble double foil. It’s super efficient!
I live in Phx, AZ and just had my HVAC system undergo a 'checkup' before the summer season and was told all seems well. We have a 4 ton single stage system for our 1700 sq ft home (1 story). The tech advised on adding a 'start assist' unit to help mitigate hard starts on the unit. Curious your thoughts on 'start assist' units (or whatever they are known to you as). Thank you.
Guessing he found your compressor struggling a little, or he's being a good little tech and offering and upgrade/upsell on every call. Either way check the detailed "Check-up" report, what did they check? Compare to system operating name plate. If in spec, just an upsell, if struggling a little I'd say pay the man to give it boost on lifespan and start saving for a compressor replacement, or new system depending on what daddy government will allow these days. Talking about that NEW SEER2 backdoor money grab that started again in 2023. Look it up and vote appropriately in the future against big government.
I agree with Tradesman. The checkups are worth doing so long as they’re not just salesmen. Anyone offering a checkup for under $50 is going to try to sell you something. Stay away from those. A hard starting compressor will often cause the lights to dim a bit and will “buzz” a little longer than it used too. That’s hard to tell unless you paid attention before. But if you hear the louder starting buzz for more than 1 second, it’s probably starting hard. I will say that that is rare to see during a check up unless he spells out why he thinks it’s happening. The hard start kits don’t hurt and can actually help a little. Curious what they charged you for it.
I got the same from a tech. I called my buddy who has his hvac license. He sent me the link to the correct hard start kit and I installed it.
Al little off topic but Phoenix was 50° *_warmer_* today than here in Detroit. I don't miss the desert heat one bit and would never consider going back.
@@Pro1er Demographics will suggest that people leave Detroit. For good reasons.