Clan Widowmaker was worse when they framed Clan Wolverine for using a nuke when it was their Khan who remote detonated it. Also nearly killed Nicholas Kerensky himself in the process. Go read Betrayal of Ideals and see for yourself.
ComTech Strategy was brought to you by a former Steiner military veteran. So get bent Clanners, Space AT&T is about to ruin your entire warrior culture.
It's worth noting that the Smoke Jaguars are the poster boys for irony, and some examples are fairly subtle. Consider: during the Londerholm revolt, when the Jaguars brutally crushed their rebellious civilians, Khan Ian Moon was able to keep the other Clans from intervening by claiming it was an "internal Smoke Jaguar matter" and subtly threatened to meddle in the other Clans' affairs if they didn't let the Jaguars do as they saw fit. That argument's success was a death sentence for plenty of Jaguar civilians--but over a hundred years later, when Lincoln Osis was begging for aid against Task Force Serpent, the other Clans turned that same argument against him. The Inner Sphere campaign was an internal Smoke Jaguar matter too, after all, and the Clans saw no reason to stick their noses in. That's easy to miss if you don't know the Londerholm history, but it's absolutely delicious. And another example: the Jaguars were the Clan that absorbed Clan Mongoose during the Golden Century. They made a point of showing their contempt for an "inferior" opponent by not making use of that Clan's genetic legacies, although some other Clans were able to get them. Well, guess what? The Smoke Jaguars themselves suffered the same fate, as the gross disgrace of losing to the Inner Sphere was a direct indictment of their genetics in Clan thinking. Other Clans almost certainly wouldn't have touched Bloodnames like Osis or Showers after that.
Another irony is that the Jaguars had a harsh distain for their free born warriors and yet it was those very same freeborns that managed to survive Serpent and later revive the Clan. lol
@@mam162 Also not true, the Touman supported more than a dozen Freebirth Trinaries during the invasion. The Jaguars weren't at all accepting of them on a personal level, but low manpower issues and matters of pride such as not sticking Trueborns on garrison details or non-combat details were most often placed on Freeborns and Bondsmen units. The 22nd cluster was entirely freebirth, as was its supporting infantry detachment from its former Garrison detail prior to Luthien. They were also a popular choice for Jaguar commands that needed logistical labor with this being a strictly non-combat role. Three of the four reserve Galaxies during the ramp-up to Operation Bulldog were heavily reinforced by IS Bondsmen or anti-DCMS forces all of which would have been Freebirth by clan standards. While this was a desperate move to quickly fill the ranks, it clearly shows that they had such units active to at least a minor degree prior. Likely as a response to losses and coverage issues from Operation Bird Dog.
@@CriticalRocket I can't wait until any of these things happen they inner sphere unites against them or the capellans stab a lot of the Clanners in the back.
I forget which novel it was that talked about the SJ clan before the Inner Sphere pushed them out. I think it was the Wolf Dragoons saying something that the ultimate test of any other clan was for one of its warriors to just survive a fight with the SJ clan in a battle.
@@deonvanzyl7970 Strategic analysis, lateral thinking, logistical planning, critical thinking, logic, diplomatic acumen, creativity, and basic decency. Their laborers are lazier than those of other castes because their morale is through the floor and with every khan, every meat head who beats and berates and murders one of the laborer caste for the crime of not being a warrior, that hole gets deeper. Their techs do the bare minimum because there's not much point doing work that nobody will ever appreciate. Their merchants don't exist because why pay for things when you can just kill the shopkeep and plunder the back room? (and more over, be praised and honored for doing exactly this thing). Their scientists are like their techs, except even more underappreciated. It's fairly difficult to run a war when none of your leadership can count past 10 and everybody who can works for Clan Diamond Shark or got hoovered up by Clan Wolf to augment their own administrative and logistical infrastructure.
Back in the days, I have been playing a pen and paper character "Gunnar Svenson" from Rasalhague, born on Tukayyid, who was commanding a mercenary outfit called "Black Hammer Division". After fighting against the pirate king Helmar Vslasek on Santander"s World, his unit was annihilated by Clan Smoke Jaguar, and Svenson was taken as a bondsman by Sarah Weaver, after losing in a trial against her. The rest of his unit was either killed, or also taken as bondsman. Years later he could escape. Now me and my group are continuing the story, and Svenson is on a murderous hunt against Clan Smoke Jaguar, freeing and reuniting his old comrades.
Ah, the Smoke Jaguars, never has there been such a good example of pride cometh before the fall. Great video thanks, was the upload date of April Fool's Day intentional or coincidental?
Same reason they made a science doom bird, science doom shark and another science doom cat, because they could and it wasn't as if the planet wasn't already trying to kill them hard enough
This was an informative and well-researched video Rocket👍🌩️! I'm not a MechWarrior Online player, but Battletech is my jam👌👌👌 and your video came up in my feed somehow. Thanks for this man! Kerensky was a real piece of work. When some of your inspirations for your new "perfect" society are Mao, Stalin, and other genocidal dictators who ruined their nations, it was probably a better idea to have him shot. I mean, not that Inner Sphere I'd any better. They used nukes in the first and second succession wars to wipe out entire planets on a few occasions. But, at the end of the day, one of Battletech's main strengths is that none of the factions are the "good guys." It gives the setting a legitimacy, realism, and depth that others only wish they had. And games workshop is trash.
Thanks. Battletech has always sat well in the grey area of morality. There are some good guys out there trying to make things better but they very rarely make any actual difference and that fits perfectly.
He wasn't really mentioned in the material I was using, but if I get to making lorewarriors about specific campaigns like the the dragon roars I will cover his stuff.
It's more a reference to MechWarrior 3 game where Light Eridani Light Horse dealt with remnants of Clan Smoke Jaguar on planet Tranquil. Sorry for my English 🤗
@@mikecampos1193 Yeah it only took nearly every IS house, multiple huge regimental size mercenary commands, Comstar, and the full strength of the Nova Cats to pull off
Basically it's the term for a batch of clan trueborns. They are raised, trained and fight together until the trial of position is fought. Weed out the weak and all that jazz.
Critical Rocket What did it mean when a clanner in a MechWarrior 3 briefing said, "I'll have you wiping the noses of sibco snobs"? Who are these snobs?
Ian Drsaurri Well all trueborn (bred in a gene tank) warriors are supposedly superior in every way. They know this, so they act like snobs to everyone who isn't a trueborn. Essentially it's a class sytem of upper class trueborns and second class everyone who isn't.
I'm curious, will you be doing lore vids for the second wave Clans? (Steel Viper and Nova Cat). I know they're not in MWO at this moment but it might be neat to do them anyway. Though i'm one of the rare people who back the Steel Vipers so i may be biased.
+coldnova All clans will be covered in Lorewarrior. I am personally more of a fan of the smaller lesser known clans so Steel viper, diamond shark, snow raven, coyote all that stuff will be covered.
coldnova I intend to complete as much as possible with the Battletech universe. Factions, battlemechs, historic conflicts, events, aerotech, dropships, jumpships, personalities, armoured vehicles. All through the SLDF era to the end of operation Bulldog and the destruction of Clan Smoke Jaguar.
As a Smoke Jaguar loyalist I have an issue with some things. Your description at the bottom is not accurate. There was never a Trial of Annhilation as the act was not voted on, sanctioned or executed by another Clan. Additionally, the Clan itself was not wiped out but the warriors who returned from Strana Mechty & the OZ in the IS were decimated. There were still the other castes as well as the genetic repository as well as warriors not accounted for who in fact fought for Devlin Stone's Republic of the Sphere who became known as the Fidelis. I appreciate what you are doing with this Clan series but there are some intricate details you need to get right. Have you read many of the books?
Since the details in these videos are verbatim from the books I would say yes? Smoke Jaguar was offered the trial of annihilation by the Inner sphere and regardless of whether the clans signed off on it, the allied sphere forces did it more as a "we're coming for you motherfuckers" kind of way, rather than following clan etiquette which frankly the inner sphere couldn't care about anyway. Also yes the clan wasn't wiped out to a man, I never said that, but essentially it was gone after operations bird and bulldog and it's assets eaten up by the other clans. I have read the books, and I apologise for offending your like of the smoke jags, they are the best space nazi's in Battletech but the fact is they got fucked after the war and I hold my hands up and say I don't play Battletech past the early 3060 era since it went off a cliff then so i know little about the terrible dark age, jihad, republic of the sphere and the more recent developments. Not because I think it's badly written or anything, but what I liked about the universe was essentially gone after the clan invasion. All information for this lorewarrior was provided from the books - the clans warriors of kerensky (page 100 under the fallen category with words "annihilated by the SLDF 3060" Other information was from the invading clans sourcebook and the clan wolf and jade falcon sourcebook. Anything else, let me know.
"Hey Smoke Jaguar, remember when you had a clan?" - Tex from the Black Pants Legion.
And now we have one again! It was us who helped found the Republic
"Hey Inner Sphere Stravag. Remember when you controlled Terra?" - ilClan Wolf who reinstated the Smoke Jaguars as a Clan again after conquering Terra
All the Clans: Okay, every body has a place.
Smoke Jaguars: Under the boots of our warriors
People are not kidding when they say that the Jaguars are freaking insane.
I am guessing that your cat hates you.
Clan Widowmaker was worse when they framed Clan Wolverine for using a nuke when it was their Khan who remote detonated it. Also nearly killed Nicholas Kerensky himself in the process. Go read Betrayal of Ideals and see for yourself.
It’s ironic that the founder of Clan Smoke Jaguar was a pacifist before his brother died.
More like the Smoked Jaguars.
This comment needs a posse to back it up. Let me help.
OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH DAMN SON
No wonder the Jaguars went down, it looks like
they had Donovan McNabb as their leader.
lol
ComTech Strategy was brought to you by a former Steiner military veteran. So get bent Clanners, Space AT&T is about to ruin your entire warrior culture.
It's worth noting that the Smoke Jaguars are the poster boys for irony, and some examples are fairly subtle. Consider: during the Londerholm revolt, when the Jaguars brutally crushed their rebellious civilians, Khan Ian Moon was able to keep the other Clans from intervening by claiming it was an "internal Smoke Jaguar matter" and subtly threatened to meddle in the other Clans' affairs if they didn't let the Jaguars do as they saw fit. That argument's success was a death sentence for plenty of Jaguar civilians--but over a hundred years later, when Lincoln Osis was begging for aid against Task Force Serpent, the other Clans turned that same argument against him. The Inner Sphere campaign was an internal Smoke Jaguar matter too, after all, and the Clans saw no reason to stick their noses in. That's easy to miss if you don't know the Londerholm history, but it's absolutely delicious.
And another example: the Jaguars were the Clan that absorbed Clan Mongoose during the Golden Century. They made a point of showing their contempt for an "inferior" opponent by not making use of that Clan's genetic legacies, although some other Clans were able to get them. Well, guess what? The Smoke Jaguars themselves suffered the same fate, as the gross disgrace of losing to the Inner Sphere was a direct indictment of their genetics in Clan thinking. Other Clans almost certainly wouldn't have touched Bloodnames like Osis or Showers after that.
Another irony is that the Jaguars had a harsh distain for their free born warriors and yet it was those very same freeborns that managed to survive Serpent and later revive the Clan. lol
@@Deepingmind They didn't even allow freeborns to fight. Their touman was originally trueborn-only.
Not true, the Touman's and Clans existed prior to the creation of Trueborns.
@@Deepingmind Yes, but by the time of the Inner Sphere invasion it was clearly established that freeborns weren't allowed in the Jaguar touman.
@@mam162 Also not true, the Touman supported more than a dozen Freebirth Trinaries during the invasion. The Jaguars weren't at all accepting of them on a personal level, but low manpower issues and matters of pride such as not sticking Trueborns on garrison details or non-combat details were most often placed on Freeborns and Bondsmen units. The 22nd cluster was entirely freebirth, as was its supporting infantry detachment from its former Garrison detail prior to Luthien. They were also a popular choice for Jaguar commands that needed logistical labor with this being a strictly non-combat role. Three of the four reserve Galaxies during the ramp-up to Operation Bulldog were heavily reinforced by IS Bondsmen or anti-DCMS forces all of which would have been Freebirth by clan standards. While this was a desperate move to quickly fill the ranks, it clearly shows that they had such units active to at least a minor degree prior. Likely as a response to losses and coverage issues from Operation Bird Dog.
The Smoke Jaguar claims this world. Identify the forces that defend it so that we from the mists of space may know on whom we pounce
The line "modern day Smoke Jaguars" makes me smile.
And just like that. Clan Smoke Jaguar is back. Battletech novel - Hour of the wolf.
They never truly vanished before then really. Though an official return is good for fans of the super bady guy clan, narratively speaking.
@@CriticalRocket I can't wait until any of these things happen they inner sphere unites against them or the capellans stab a lot of the Clanners in the back.
I forget which novel it was that talked about the SJ clan before the Inner Sphere pushed them out. I think it was the Wolf Dragoons saying something that the ultimate test of any other clan was for one of its warriors to just survive a fight with the SJ clan in a battle.
+Mike George Yeah they are definitely the most skilled combatant but they suffer for that skill in every other area.
What weak skills do you refer to?
@@deonvanzyl7970 Strategic analysis, lateral thinking, logistical planning, critical thinking, logic, diplomatic acumen, creativity, and basic decency. Their laborers are lazier than those of other castes because their morale is through the floor and with every khan, every meat head who beats and berates and murders one of the laborer caste for the crime of not being a warrior, that hole gets deeper. Their techs do the bare minimum because there's not much point doing work that nobody will ever appreciate. Their merchants don't exist because why pay for things when you can just kill the shopkeep and plunder the back room? (and more over, be praised and honored for doing exactly this thing). Their scientists are like their techs, except even more underappreciated. It's fairly difficult to run a war when none of your leadership can count past 10 and everybody who can works for Clan Diamond Shark or got hoovered up by Clan Wolf to augment their own administrative and logistical infrastructure.
Theyre cool tho! Did you ever play L5R ? I always like the matsu family, warriors to the bone!
Back in the days, I have been playing a pen and paper character "Gunnar Svenson" from Rasalhague, born on Tukayyid, who was commanding a mercenary outfit called "Black Hammer Division". After fighting against the pirate king Helmar Vslasek on Santander"s World, his unit was annihilated by Clan Smoke Jaguar, and Svenson was taken as a bondsman by Sarah Weaver, after losing in a trial against her. The rest of his unit was either killed, or also taken as bondsman. Years later he could escape.
Now me and my group are continuing the story, and Svenson is on a murderous hunt against Clan Smoke Jaguar, freeing and reuniting his old comrades.
Thats sick, really cool story! Mind if i steal it by adapting it to my homebrew rpg setting? Hehe
@@sergeigen1 sure why not.
Ah, the Smoke Jaguars, never has there been such a good example of pride cometh before the fall. Great video thanks, was the upload date of April Fool's Day intentional or coincidental?
+leakycheese Just coincidence :)
A reference that I am personally a Clan Smoke Jaguar loyalist is missing in this video :D Awesome episode though man, keep it up!
+M4J35T1C I tried to squeeze that fact in but you know time constraints and Precentor Aldern didn't want me going off the historical record.
loving the lore videos man keep up the good work.
+cracken110 Thank you, I will keep up the series as long as there is relevant content for it :)
why did we have to make a science doom jaguar!?
Same reason they made a science doom bird, science doom shark and another science doom cat, because they could and it wasn't as if the planet wasn't already trying to kill them hard enough
Your cat will choke you.
Anyone read the Twilight of the Clans #1 Exodus Road?
It is the reason why I hate the name 'Trent'.
Yesss
One of my favorite books of all time, both as a Battletech book and honestly just as a piece of literature in general.
The best faction
now were talkin, you've earned yourself a vacation sir
Ah Clan Spirit Jaguar.
love these. its relly cool!
Nice 👍
This was an informative and well-researched video Rocket👍🌩️! I'm not a MechWarrior Online player, but Battletech is my jam👌👌👌 and your video came up in my feed somehow. Thanks for this man!
Kerensky was a real piece of work. When some of your inspirations for your new "perfect" society are Mao, Stalin, and other genocidal dictators who ruined their nations, it was probably a better idea to have him shot.
I mean, not that Inner Sphere I'd any better. They used nukes in the first and second succession wars to wipe out entire planets on a few occasions.
But, at the end of the day, one of Battletech's main strengths is that none of the factions are the "good guys." It gives the setting a legitimacy, realism, and depth that others only wish they had.
And games workshop is trash.
Thanks. Battletech has always sat well in the grey area of morality. There are some good guys out there trying to make things better but they very rarely make any actual difference and that fits perfectly.
Die Clanner.....
I love these lore videos
Glad you enjoy them :)
What about the Il-Khan Brandon Corbett?
He wasn't really mentioned in the material I was using, but if I get to making lorewarriors about specific campaigns like the the dragon roars I will cover his stuff.
Died on Tranquility.
It's more a reference to MechWarrior 3 game where Light Eridani Light Horse dealt with remnants of Clan Smoke Jaguar on planet Tranquil. Sorry for my English 🤗
The Jaguars did nothing wrong.
Got owned by Comstar and Fedcom in later war.
@@mikecampos1193 Yeah it only took nearly every IS house, multiple huge regimental size mercenary commands, Comstar, and the full strength of the Nova Cats to pull off
The IS did a favour to the clans wiping these bastards out. Trent was the only Jag worth recalling and he is the one who sealed his clans own doom.
will you ever do a reading of The Remembrance?
It's not a bad idea, so it will likely be part of a future lorewarrior.
:D
and then operation bulldog
What is a sibco
Basically it's the term for a batch of clan trueborns. They are raised, trained and fight together until the trial of position is fought. Weed out the weak and all that jazz.
Critical Rocket What did it mean when a clanner in a MechWarrior 3 briefing said, "I'll have you wiping the noses of sibco snobs"? Who are these snobs?
Ian Drsaurri
Well all trueborn (bred in a gene tank) warriors are supposedly superior in every way. They know this, so they act like snobs to everyone who isn't a trueborn. Essentially it's a class sytem of upper class trueborns and second class everyone who isn't.
Critical Rocket Oh okay, makes sense.
I'm curious, will you be doing lore vids for the second wave Clans? (Steel Viper and Nova Cat). I know they're not in MWO at this moment but it might be neat to do them anyway. Though i'm one of the rare people who back the Steel Vipers so i may be biased.
+coldnova All clans will be covered in Lorewarrior. I am personally more of a fan of the smaller lesser known clans so Steel viper, diamond shark, snow raven, coyote all that stuff will be covered.
+Critical Rocket Good to hear. I really like your presenting style. Recently binged the whole lorewarrior series. Keep up the good work.
coldnova
I intend to complete as much as possible with the Battletech universe. Factions, battlemechs, historic conflicts, events, aerotech, dropships, jumpships, personalities, armoured vehicles. All through the SLDF era to the end of operation Bulldog and the destruction of Clan Smoke Jaguar.
Smoked* Jaguar
As a Smoke Jaguar loyalist I have an issue with some things. Your description at the bottom is not accurate. There was never a Trial of Annhilation as the act was not voted on, sanctioned or executed by another Clan. Additionally, the Clan itself was not wiped out but the warriors who returned from Strana Mechty & the OZ in the IS were decimated. There were still the other castes as well as the genetic repository as well as warriors not accounted for who in fact fought for Devlin Stone's Republic of the Sphere who became known as the Fidelis.
I appreciate what you are doing with this Clan series but there are some intricate details you need to get right. Have you read many of the books?
Since the details in these videos are verbatim from the books I would say yes? Smoke Jaguar was offered the trial of annihilation by the Inner sphere and regardless of whether the clans signed off on it, the allied sphere forces did it more as a "we're coming for you motherfuckers" kind of way, rather than following clan etiquette which frankly the inner sphere couldn't care about anyway.
Also yes the clan wasn't wiped out to a man, I never said that, but essentially it was gone after operations bird and bulldog and it's assets eaten up by the other clans. I have read the books, and I apologise for offending your like of the smoke jags, they are the best space nazi's in Battletech but the fact is they got fucked after the war and I hold my hands up and say I don't play Battletech past the early 3060 era since it went off a cliff then so i know little about the terrible dark age, jihad, republic of the sphere and the more recent developments. Not because I think it's badly written or anything, but what I liked about the universe was essentially gone after the clan invasion.
All information for this lorewarrior was provided from the books - the clans warriors of kerensky (page 100 under the fallen category with words "annihilated by the SLDF 3060" Other information was from the invading clans sourcebook and the clan wolf and jade falcon sourcebook. Anything else, let me know.
@@CriticalRocket Losing 60% of their force, and had to be rescued in the end. LOL Not to mention the treason of the rest of the Clan weaklings.