Such powerful words from Right Worshipful Jim Rumsey... I know I can be a bit critical of some of your videos, but in this case, I completely agree with this Brother and truly appreciate you having him as a guest. I look forward to hearing more from him in the future.
This was a terrific video with a monumental and present day Hero of Texas Freemasonry. After being with him on hundreds of occasions, I still always leave those occasions a better man. For those of you who have never met the Icon of a Texas Mason, R.W. Jim Rumsey, you need to make the effort. We Texas Mason‘s are truly looking forward to a fabulous future. For many years I’ve attended Masonic events wearing a tuxedo jacket, bowtie, white vest, brown cowboy boots with new wrangler jeans. I’ll give up the denim, but not the brown boots.
Check out this book, Brothers. I'm sure you're familiar: Dwight L Smith, "Why This Confusion In The Temple?" I believe it is available as PDF on Masonic websites, as well as Archives.
I have not met RW Jim Rumsey many times and even less really talked with him but when I listen to him we have similar or close ideas what needs to be changed in Masonry. Freemasonry is not which ever social organisation. Style, charm and elegance is needed to get back.
People are attracted to power and exclusivity but exclusivity must include quality not quantity clandestine lodges are a problem have to regulate those..use copyright infringement laws to close them down and or sue and fine them..
What does exclusivity mean? I get the impression that the word is being used as a cover for what you really want to say. When you say exclusive, elite, etc. I think you may just mean wealthy. If you don't think working class men have a place in Masonry, then just say so.
Do you think a man who is a member of a country club is a higher quality individual than a man who is involved heavily in his son's little league org? Is the country club member more desirable for the lodge?
Wrong. My great grandfather was a Civil War veteran and a small farmer. He was Master of his Lodge 3 times. He had a suit and he wore it. There is no reason why a Mason should not wear at least a coat and tie to lodge.
@@Informed21have no issues with a Lodge requiring a suit. You can buy a suit from a thrift store for 20 or 30 bucks. It won't be the nicest but it's a suit nonetheless. I have an issue with the idea of excluding men from Masonry because they can't afford 800 dollars per degree and 500 a year in dues, which is what the implication of RW's words were. The talk about focusing on men from "the country club" for recruitment as opposed to a dad who is involved in his son's little league and that we have a "money problem" in Masonry. I agree that Masonry should be exclusive, I just don't think wealth should be the determining factor. A good man who loves his community and takes care of his family is what I feel recommends him to be a Mason.
Such powerful words from Right Worshipful Jim Rumsey... I know I can be a bit critical of some of your videos, but in this case, I completely agree with this Brother and truly appreciate you having him as a guest. I look forward to hearing more from him in the future.
@OnTheHighWatch always appreciate the candid feedback.
@@OnTheHighWatch he is already in the queue for another episode that releases in a few months with him, and two other GL officers
This was a terrific video with a monumental and present day Hero of Texas Freemasonry.
After being with him on hundreds of occasions, I still always leave those occasions a better man.
For those of you who have never met the Icon of a Texas Mason, R.W. Jim Rumsey, you need to make the effort.
We Texas Mason‘s are truly looking forward to a fabulous future.
For many years I’ve attended Masonic events wearing a tuxedo jacket, bowtie, white vest, brown cowboy boots with new wrangler jeans. I’ll give up the denim, but not the brown boots.
Great feedback with a humorous close!
Check out this book, Brothers. I'm sure you're familiar: Dwight L Smith, "Why This Confusion In The Temple?" I believe it is available as PDF on Masonic websites, as well as Archives.
I have not met RW Jim Rumsey many times and even less really talked with him but when I listen to him we have similar or close ideas what needs to be changed in Masonry. Freemasonry is not which ever social organisation. Style, charm and elegance is needed to get back.
Well said Mats!
People are attracted to power and exclusivity but exclusivity must include quality not quantity clandestine lodges are a problem have to regulate those..use copyright infringement laws to close them down and or sue and fine them..
@@SkipFlanagan-np7cc you're not wrong!
I’ll add this thought: If ANYONE can effect the paradigm shift that JR described, it’s him.
We would agree with you; and the men behind him will keep the ball rolling!
@@OldFashionMasonicPodcast that's absolutely right!
Both of those guys are treasured friends, and they work their butts off for the Masons of Texas.
Great show! Very insightful 🫡
@SkipFlanagan-np7cc thanks for watching and sharing Skip!
@@OldFashionMasonicPodcast not a problem thank u I enjoy your content keep being great 🫡
Whisky good choice I don’t drink😂
What does exclusivity mean? I get the impression that the word is being used as a cover for what you really want to say. When you say exclusive, elite, etc. I think you may just mean wealthy. If you don't think working class men have a place in Masonry, then just say so.
The episode did make some definitions.
Do you think a man who is a member of a country club is a higher quality individual than a man who is involved heavily in his son's little league org? Is the country club member more desirable for the lodge?
Wrong. My great grandfather was a Civil War veteran and a small farmer. He was Master of his Lodge 3 times. He had a suit and he wore it. There is no reason why a Mason should not wear at least a coat and tie to lodge.
@@Informed21have no issues with a Lodge requiring a suit. You can buy a suit from a thrift store for 20 or 30 bucks. It won't be the nicest but it's a suit nonetheless. I have an issue with the idea of excluding men from Masonry because they can't afford 800 dollars per degree and 500 a year in dues, which is what the implication of RW's words were. The talk about focusing on men from "the country club" for recruitment as opposed to a dad who is involved in his son's little league and that we have a "money problem" in Masonry. I agree that Masonry should be exclusive, I just don't think wealth should be the determining factor. A good man who loves his community and takes care of his family is what I feel recommends him to be a Mason.
@@MekMalazan fair points