Unironically, my very first considerable purchase ever with my own money (in my late teens) was a washing machine. I LOVE that washing machine. It looks great, and I could wash anything in it. I gave it as a present to my oldest sister when I left the country and she still has it. She has a husband and three kids and the washing machine is so big it can do their weekly washing in only two loads. Over 10 years since I bought it, hasn't broken down once. That's my favourite machine of all time, no contest.
Great video, looking forward to more like this. Honestly, telling us about the machines that suck would be just as helpful. Maybe more for us home gym people… not many can afford Prime machines but it’s fairly common to pick up an older used commercial leg press/hack squat/etc. If there are specific models or designs that just generally suck it would help to know which ones they are so we can steer clear.
Do you have a good mind muscle connection when you use it? Are you able to feel the burn in the appropriate places when going light for high reps? Good machine. Simple as.
@@formdoggie5 Sure but it’s not like people are going to let you come over and do a full workout on their shit just so you can figure out if you like it and want to buy. Even if they were so accommodating often times you might have to drive for several hours for a good deal and that’s a huge waste of time if it doesn’t pan out.
@TimK "I bought the car before I test drove it it." Brought to you by the same person who wrote other hits like: "How I regretted marrying my one night stand," and, "Why I bought this yacht even though it had holes all over it."
I like vending machines because I think snacks are better when they fall. Often times if I buy a candy bar at the store I will drop it. So that it achieves maximum flavor potential. R.I.P. Mitch Herberg 😞
He could easily make millions buy selling machines to Billionaires, but instead he gives us this beautiful content, what a man from divine olive garden
I love the leaning, lat-biased rows on machines like this (demonstrated around 7:35) as a third exercise after 1) pullups or assisted pullups and 2) lat prayers or pullovers... Lets you finish off the lats with stability+focus. If you don't have variable grips like this Prime machine, I'd recommend attaching some "angles90"-style pullup grips to the handles of your machine.
Agreed! The prime seated row is the 'cream de la gym', but if you're looking for a selectorized version, the TKO Strength seated Mid-Row also, with articulating handles feels incredible!
Can Dr. MIke please do a full video on all his recommended machines and all the different manufacturers. For example, for leg press, he likes the arsenal strength leg press but for smith machine he likes the Cybex smith. I’m super nerdy and want to build a home gym like Dr. Mike.
something I imagine would be difficult to film/conceptualize but would be great to see is a best gyms in the country series where Dr.Mike goes through several states and RPs experience or recommendation from a given gym. I say this because I badly want to try the prime row somewhere lol
I came up with what you call a flexion row on my own probably a year/year and a half ago and it really was a game changer for me. Back growth started happening way faster, sfr went way down, and the flair ups from a really old shoulder injury are basically nonexistent. I haven’t done any sort of traditional rows since unless the gym just had an absolutely trash rowing machine.
Yeah i love the prime machines with this row is perfect i like making it harder at the beginning the handles are brilliant aswell as they can be used in any wrist position
I've been highly tempted to purchase one for my garage gym, but lead time is around 30 weeks 🙃 hard to pull the trigger when it'll take 6-8+ months to be delivered.
single arm low cable with vertical bench for chest supporting and straps is the best row variation. It's my favourite exercise with perfect ROM, fatigue recovery, closeness to failure and possibility to touch your hip with your elbow
The 4 positions on the chest supported row is interesting. Though most chest supported row machines cannot have the 3 pegs, I'll try the 4 positions at my gym. I usually just sit down and do the 4th exercise type. I've never thought of doing it any other way. So now there are some options. Thanks, Dr. Mike.
I like how it introduces everyone in this badass fashion “Marvin- wbnf pro, Jared Feather- ifbb pro” and then the screen is blank when Dr Mike comes up
"We're going to show you a bunch of machines that are really awesome, that you'll never have access to :]]]]]]]]]." Thanks Dr Mike for reminding me how shitty the old, rusty machines are at my commercial gym.
I don’t even have a home gym and I want to buy this machine... i appreciate you giving critiques. The only other thing i might add is some adjustability to the pad, in terms of angle, so you could adjust it a bit more when biasing lats. Maybe even a knee pad to feel really anchored in. More adjustability would help more people feel good with it too. Does prime have a pull down with the three peg system? They probably do.. awesome way they demonstrated the machine though, for the lats. Super similar movement to machine rows but honestly looks better to me. I wonder if you could make a cable machine with this kind of set up. I am sure you could so the question would be practicality. It would be cool to do something like the cable Y raises with a cable set up that loads the bottom extra; big stretch on the delts!
Hey Dr Mike. I think that bottom peg can make for a good warm up. It could also make for some less damaging volume work, or blood flow recovery type stuff. Maybe even just variation for the sake of it. What if all the pegs were adjustable? That would make it perfect for everyone. Even the equipped power lifters that are breathing the raw lifters air.
This is, in fact, the best row machine ever made. I used to lift at a gym that had one and there isn't an actual comparison that can be made to any other rowing machine. It is criminally good.
i actually like loading this machine with 3 plates on the top and 2 on the bottom, makes it really consistant and smooth through out the entire ROM, thats my personal preference
greaaaaaat! thank you! plis more of these videos plis. I think the more difficult muscles to target are legs and back. If you could do more videos of the best machines for these muscles it would be extremely helpfull!!!!!
Now I want this in my gym! I have a question, why did you all flex your wrists on top of the rowing movement? Doesn't it do nothing to the back musculature contraction intensity?
Its the best row machine for sure, but the chest pad needs more adjustments for us long torso folks and probably needs wrap around padding on the sides and top as it's pretty painful. Also ALL of the Prime machines need different peg material as the plates sometimes stick. If you are ever at a gym that has bumpers (WHY?!?!?!?!?) and you have to add and remove a bunch of those plates regularly you will develop a deep hatred of their plastic/rubber/whatever material on the plate pegs.
I accidentally found a tiny gym with 6-7 similar machines (adjustable strength curve) back in Bulgaria (3D Gym). Great stuff. My main gym in the UK has hammer strength 😒
Dr. Mike I saw on a thread that if someone takes a cycle that when they go off cycle they still obtain the benefits of being on cycle years after being off. What do you think about that?
You're going to discover that you can't lift as much and you'll be demotivated to go. Leading to further loss. Your testosterone production will be absolutely wrecked and your hormones will be out of whack. You'll be on TRT for life to compensate.
"Hi Dr. Israetel, I'm wondering if the inertia in cable machines with pulleys has any noticeable effects compared to free weights. Are there any important differences we should consider when choosing between these options for resistance training? Could the mass and inertia of weight stacks in cable machines impact muscle activation, force generation, or injury risk in unique ways? Thanks!" I noticed this when rehabbing a torn bicep. I was super paranoid about damaging the repair and this kind of crap pops into my head. When the felt load gets heavy, heavy to match a free weight, I noticed the feel of the weight is much different and thought it must be the inertia causing this. The brain says this is heavy, but the reps keep coming. It’s a weird sensation, especially after spending years doing barbell work for 95 % or my training.
Well, your muscles all grow pretty much the same but the placement on your body makes it hard to hit them in the way that's best for growth. Also what's probably the reason that the stretch is more effective is because if the muscle doesn't get stronger it's literally gonna rip apart(also it causes more damage so it makes sense you r body wants to prepare for that), if the muscle can't hold the top all that happens is that you fail but the chance injury is much lower than I f you were talking to fail in the stretched position in a real life event(not the gym)
Would love to be able to experience this type of machine but I dont know any gyms in my area that have it. I only have planet fitness, 24, and Crunch in my area and none of them have this machine. Anyone know where theyve seen this machine before?
Unironically, my very first considerable purchase ever with my own money (in my late teens) was a washing machine. I LOVE that washing machine. It looks great, and I could wash anything in it. I gave it as a present to my oldest sister when I left the country and she still has it. She has a husband and three kids and the washing machine is so big it can do their weekly washing in only two loads. Over 10 years since I bought it, hasn't broken down once. That's my favourite machine of all time, no contest.
😂💯
Ok but how well did it activate your lats?
@@R03333 not only did it activate my lats, my joints felt amazing after working with it. The complete package mate.
Now i need to know where to buy such a washing machine.
It's great, such a large machine has an infinite load potential! 😯
Great video, looking forward to more like this.
Honestly, telling us about the machines that suck would be just as helpful. Maybe more for us home gym people… not many can afford Prime machines but it’s fairly common to pick up an older used commercial leg press/hack squat/etc. If there are specific models or designs that just generally suck it would help to know which ones they are so we can steer clear.
Do you have a good mind muscle connection when you use it? Are you able to feel the burn in the appropriate places when going light for high reps?
Good machine.
Simple as.
@dominationnation11 does reviews on the equipment you're talking about. I like the fact that Mike is starting with the elite tier machines.
@@formdoggie5 Sure but it’s not like people are going to let you come over and do a full workout on their shit just so you can figure out if you like it and want to buy. Even if they were so accommodating often times you might have to drive for several hours for a good deal and that’s a huge waste of time if it doesn’t pan out.
@TimK "I bought the car before I test drove it it."
Brought to you by the same person who wrote other hits like:
"How I regretted marrying my one night stand," and, "Why I bought this yacht even though it had holes all over it."
@@formdoggie5 You must have a really awesome home gym, sounds like you have tons of experience buying stuff from the used market
Next do a video on how to convince our gym owners to buy these please, Dr.Mike, you're always so convincing
next do a video on how to get your fucking money up
My favorite machine is the vending machine.
I've probably made most of my gains on that one.
LOL!!!
Waheyy
I like vending machines because I think snacks are better when they fall. Often times if I buy a candy bar at the store I will drop it. So that it achieves maximum flavor potential.
R.I.P. Mitch Herberg 😞
Big fan. Solid resistance. Great pump.
He could easily make millions buy selling machines to Billionaires, but instead he gives us this beautiful content, what a man from divine olive garden
I love the leaning, lat-biased rows on machines like this (demonstrated around 7:35) as a third exercise after 1) pullups or assisted pullups and 2) lat prayers or pullovers... Lets you finish off the lats with stability+focus. If you don't have variable grips like this Prime machine, I'd recommend attaching some "angles90"-style pullup grips to the handles of your machine.
Agreed! The prime seated row is the 'cream de la gym', but if you're looking for a selectorized version, the TKO Strength seated Mid-Row also, with articulating handles feels incredible!
"Perfect but it could use a bigger peg." Been there
Nice euphemism
Aside from the back, I’m also getting some nice forearm gains from this row machine. One of my fav’s!
You guys made me aware versa grips existed and I can’t imagine the gym without them - so I always listen to what you guys recommend
Can Dr. MIke please do a full video on all his recommended machines and all the different manufacturers. For example, for leg press, he likes the arsenal strength leg press but for smith machine he likes the Cybex smith. I’m super nerdy and want to build a home gym like Dr. Mike.
Yea we are filming a home gym tour soon, and Mike will talk about everything he would recommend!
@@RenaissancePeriodization Fuck yeah!!!!!!
any new equipment in my home gym must have Dr. Mike's blessing.
@@nursechase1 facts…I feel like Prime and Atlantis are the best for most .. than maybe some cybex and Arsenal
i legit tried a somewhat similar machine 2 days ago that is hardest at the beginning and gets a little easier at the end. instantly fell in love
You know you can count on Dr. Mike’s review when he even criticises the prime row!
something I imagine would be difficult to film/conceptualize but would be great to see is a best gyms in the country series where Dr.Mike goes through several states and RPs experience or recommendation from a given gym. I say this because I badly want to try the prime row somewhere lol
They have a thing on their website where u can see where the closest available to use equipment is
I came up with what you call a flexion row on my own probably a year/year and a half ago and it really was a game changer for me. Back growth started happening way faster, sfr went way down, and the flair ups from a really old shoulder injury are basically nonexistent. I haven’t done any sort of traditional rows since unless the gym just had an absolutely trash rowing machine.
I would definitely enjoy more videos like this!
Despite the minor feud between you and Kas, it was nice to see you give him credit on the pull-up variation. Even more respect for Dr Mike now!
Yeah i love the prime machines with this row is perfect i like making it harder at the beginning the handles are brilliant aswell as they can be used in any wrist position
Best home gym investment got mine on sale during Black Friday can hit your whole back on the 360 rotation love this machine
I've been highly tempted to purchase one for my garage gym, but lead time is around 30 weeks 🙃 hard to pull the trigger when it'll take 6-8+ months to be delivered.
The ultimate salesman 🤣.. absolutely fantastic
single arm low cable with vertical bench for chest supporting and straps is the best row variation. It's my favourite exercise with perfect ROM, fatigue recovery, closeness to failure and possibility to touch your hip with your elbow
Prime Makers: “make it sound like we don’t endorse you”
Dr. Mike: “say less”
Dr. Mike managed to make Goldilocks and the Three Bears sound hella dirty in just one sentence.
The 4 positions on the chest supported row is interesting. Though most chest supported row machines cannot have the 3 pegs, I'll try the 4 positions at my gym. I usually just sit down and do the 4th exercise type. I've never thought of doing it any other way. So now there are some options. Thanks, Dr. Mike.
I like how it introduces everyone in this badass fashion “Marvin- wbnf pro, Jared Feather- ifbb pro” and then the screen is blank when Dr Mike comes up
"We're going to show you a bunch of machines that are really awesome, that you'll never have access to :]]]]]]]]]." Thanks Dr Mike for reminding me how shitty the old, rusty machines are at my commercial gym.
I don’t even have a home gym and I want to buy this machine... i appreciate you giving critiques. The only other thing i might add is some adjustability to the pad, in terms of angle, so you could adjust it a bit more when biasing lats. Maybe even a knee pad to feel really anchored in. More adjustability would help more people feel good with it too.
Does prime have a pull down with the three peg system? They probably do.. awesome way they demonstrated the machine though, for the lats. Super similar movement to machine rows but honestly looks better to me.
I wonder if you could make a cable machine with this kind of set up. I am sure you could so the question would be practicality. It would be cool to do something like the cable Y raises with a cable set up that loads the bottom extra; big stretch on the delts!
Make a video on machines that suck
Dr Mike: don't just get on there and be like eh
Dr Mike: play with the seat, play with your body angle, play with your... **creepy smirk**
My fav machine is the T800, especially when it says it will be BACK
I like these machines that have rotating, gyrating handles
I hate the Matrix machines that are very popular now. They're so cookie cutter.
I don’t have this machine; I may never go to a gym that has one, but I’ll be damned if I miss a single video. 😂.
Hey Dr Mike. I think that bottom peg can make for a good warm up. It could also make for some less damaging volume work, or blood flow recovery type stuff. Maybe even just variation for the sake of it.
What if all the pegs were adjustable? That would make it perfect for everyone. Even the equipped power lifters that are breathing the raw lifters air.
This is, in fact, the best row machine ever made. I used to lift at a gym that had one and there isn't an actual comparison that can be made to any other rowing machine. It is criminally good.
Can we get a playlist on the channel for favorite machines? Please!
More of this shit please! Also, cmon Mike give us a tour of that badass gym!
As a Hongkonger, glad to see you here,Marvin.
My favorite machine is the flesh light
Hey Mike, what do you guys think of Arsenal Strength’s equipment?
the NAUTILUS pullover machine is the BEST BACK MACHINE money can buy!
do a video on that machine please!
Hmmm, Mike was talking about the stretch part (aka lengthened partials) way before Milos made it his hobby.
Aside from the size of the chest pad ( its terribly small ) everything about this machine is amazing.
i actually like loading this machine with 3 plates on the top and 2 on the bottom, makes it really consistant and smooth through out the entire ROM, thats my personal preference
greaaaaaat! thank you! plis more of these videos plis. I think the more difficult muscles to target are legs and back. If you could do more videos of the best machines for these muscles it would be extremely helpfull!!!!!
Now I want this in my gym!
I have a question, why did you all flex your wrists on top of the rowing movement? Doesn't it do nothing to the back musculature contraction intensity?
Dr. Mike is my consultant for a gym
I came to the channel for context and I stayed for penis jokes 😝
We have this in my gym and I couldn’t agree with you more.
You can take a frame from this point and pop it on a muscle-t. Wear that to the insane-hard days at the gym Dr Mike. 2:35
A must have for any Gym. Sadly not many ones have it
I love the shout-out to Coach Kasseem
It would be pretty cool if you did a video about using magnets as a source of resistence (tonal)
Its the best row machine for sure, but the chest pad needs more adjustments for us long torso folks and probably needs wrap around padding on the sides and top as it's pretty painful.
Also ALL of the Prime machines need different peg material as the plates sometimes stick. If you are ever at a gym that has bumpers (WHY?!?!?!?!?) and you have to add and remove a bunch of those plates regularly you will develop a deep hatred of their plastic/rubber/whatever material on the plate pegs.
Any chest-supported row is my favorite over cable, BB, or DB. I cannot put any unnecessary strain on my low back due to disc damage.
the production value of that intro segment
Love the machine recommendations. Keep that shit coming.
I have used these and they are a win.
I accidentally found a tiny gym with 6-7 similar machines (adjustable strength curve) back in Bulgaria (3D Gym). Great stuff. My main gym in the UK has hammer strength 😒
Brilliant. We do get weaker at full contraction with rows and pull downs
I love your vids I just started working out and you have helped me plus your funny
Why did I just watch a video about a product I will never be in the market for? Oh wait, it's cause Dr. Mike is the best.
Dr. Mike “i’m not sponsored by versagripps” Israetel
I'll change my name to work with you Doc!
Dr. Mike I saw on a thread that if someone takes a cycle that when they go off cycle they still obtain the benefits of being on cycle years after being off. What do you think about that?
You're going to discover that you can't lift as much and you'll be demotivated to go. Leading to further loss. Your testosterone production will be absolutely wrecked and your hormones will be out of whack. You'll be on TRT for life to compensate.
That is a fact, there is no opinion
@@dabofiron.itzsimplicity one 8-week cycle ?
@@overnightavenger1470 PEDs are PEDs. They change your DNA. Does not matter the dosage or duration of exposure
do more of these!
Quick question, wasn't Strive that came up with this concept initially?
Love these videos ❤️❤️ man
How many exercises should I do on a leg day and what exercises should I do as a skinny teen who’s trained for 1 year
Near and dear to your heart? Its either son Jared or Dr Christle
great video, I wonder what working out is going to look like in 20 years with this kind of engineering.
Hey Dr Mike! How would this compare with the pin-loaded variants from Prime? Namely, the Evolution and Hybrid Seated Row machines.
Love these👍
Love the faces at 2 mins 30 :):).
"Hi Dr. Israetel, I'm wondering if the inertia in cable machines with pulleys has any noticeable effects compared to free weights. Are there any important differences we should consider when choosing between these options for resistance training? Could the mass and inertia of weight stacks in cable machines impact muscle activation, force generation, or injury risk in unique ways? Thanks!"
I noticed this when rehabbing a torn bicep. I was super paranoid about damaging the repair and this kind of crap pops into my head.
When the felt load gets heavy, heavy to match a free weight, I noticed the feel of the weight is much different and thought it must be the inertia causing this. The brain says this is heavy, but the reps keep coming. It’s a weird sensation, especially after spending years doing barbell work for 95 % or my training.
Mike, have you tried Panatta's equipment at all?
Would it not have also been useful to have pegs that adjust the width of the grip?
My favorite machine is the T-800
Because the plates are on the left side , in this case the right back side is doing easier job?
the thumbnail i thought some dude was shooting a MK19 lol
cool review instruction video 👍
Dr Mike, any particular reason why you didn’t opt for the Rot8 handles on this model?
If you do lat-focused rows and rack-pulls - do you have to do high/wide rows aswell, or is it enough?
I wish Dr Mike would talk about my peg
What about adding horizontal grip width adjustments, similar to elitefts's chest supported row?
Surely as long as you are still close enough to your stomach you would just keep rowing? ie could still do a couple even if they don't hit the stomach
$2,786 !!
I new the price was going to be crazy. That’s probably without shipping. And, after taxes…
The top of a pull-up or row is usually harder, at least for me. It's weird that the easiest part of the rep is the most hypertrophic.
Well, your muscles all grow pretty much the same but the placement on your body makes it hard to hit them in the way that's best for growth. Also what's probably the reason that the stretch is more effective is because if the muscle doesn't get stronger it's literally gonna rip apart(also it causes more damage so it makes sense you r body wants to prepare for that), if the muscle can't hold the top all that happens is that you fail but the chance injury is much lower than I f you were talking to fail in the stretched position in a real life event(not the gym)
Would you never want to be able to move the chest pad up and down on these machines?
Dr. Mike says tummy - tummy support 😊😊😊
Do they make weight stack version?
Ohhhhhh THAT kind of rowing machine.
Jo mike was is the difference between the erectors ane the low back? And how can i train both?
Imagine loading all pegs. Instant growth
now THIS IS A REVIEW
How much $
what is the price and machine name?
Damn 15 minutes on a machine that wasn't sponsored at all? Bollocks lol
Would love to be able to experience this type of machine but I dont know any gyms in my area that have it. I only have planet fitness, 24, and Crunch in my area and none of them have this machine. Anyone know where theyve seen this machine before?
My gym doesn’t even have cheaper chest supported rows, let alone something like this