Fun fact about that interview! Dr. Gundry tried to have it taken down due to “defamatory statements regarding Dr. Gundry’s medical advice.” All Dr. Mike had to do to beat the claim was tell the TH-cam rep “watch the video. He made those statements, not us.”
If that's true Gundry knows he's skating in thin ice, cherry picking data. I've seen other docs that say, "eat this one thing to cure blah". Except the amount needed to cure anything would be far in excess of what you could actually eat in a day without getting sick - same as the fitness gurus that say doing it the way they say to do it will give you awesome gains (except you have to be pretty advanced as a body builder to even have the support of one's stabilizer muscles
Mike and his guest maintained superhuman patience with Gundry for over an hour. He could not have hoped for a better discussion with 2 people educated enough to push back
I smoke my first ever cigarette after watching this video. Now I have an addiction that lowers my stress, has created a lighter version of myself and I’ve made friends at the cancer clinic. Thanks Dr Mike! 💪🏻
I tried an actual 95 percent cocoa chocolate bar in Peru I bought it for my gf for Valentine’s Day literally disgusting lol like I guess that’s probably healthy but at that point why not just have like fruit or something
I watched the entire podcast and that's his whole MO. He refuses to directly answer any inquiries on his most ridiculous claims (quoted to him word by word). He just starts talking about something else.
A solid sign of hack nutrition advice is when they say "You know that normal food that everyone eats? Well it has this one compound called 'X' which is also found in 'insert substance you wouldn't eat' so why would you eat it?"
Watching the way Gundry makes his points is so infuriating, it truly feels like he knows he is lying, but that he thinks he is smart enough to get away with it. The level of smug self-satisfaction when you watch the full thing makes me want to throw up. The fact that Doctor mike and Dr. Danielle Belardo both manage to sit through a single one of his arguments and not explode with anger at a man so obviously telling lies to their face is a testament to how well prepared they were. His lies are incessant and dangerous.
He knows he just has to say those things with a straight face and SOMEONE will believe it, even in a context where his ideas get destroyed. It's why he agreed to that interview, he's a socipath.
@@Ogaitnas900 Perfect analysis, thank you. He knows there are enough mentally challenged people out there desperately seeking approval for their out-of-control eating disorders that will listen and spread his lies, he just needs to keep a straight face while lying in his fancy Sunday suit, and they're convinced. Sociopathic indeed because he is exploiting his viewers' and their children's health for his own financial profit.
He's not stupid, he absolutely knows he's a liar. He may truly think his diet is the best, but he's not willing to do the work to prove it, because that requires overcoming decades of research that flies in the face of his assumptions, so the easier path is just to say bold face lies and use redirection with confidence and think that the ends justify the means.
@@nichtsistkostenlos6565 do you think he's lying to further what he considers the greater good: that his diet is superior, and getting people to switch to it justifies feeding them lies to get them there? I do have to wonder, what happens when one of his readers gets cancer: it's statistically a near certainty if enough people read his books that one of them will get very ill, even from something unrelated to his diet recommendation.
@user-vg5ie5hm1u It blows my mind how people like you just say shit like this with the wealth of videos showing Dr. Mikes points and studies backing him alongside any counter points and Mike changing his opinion when scientific research improves. You still say shit that makes no sense out of some bias ignorance. It's fine to disagree with him or dislike his demeanor but good god be right for once in your life.
Thank you for all your insight, Dr. Mike. Your influence has helped me go from 257lbs to 214lbs since April 13th. I appreciate you helping me educate myself on my health.
As someone from medical field, a lot of highly skilled specialists may show complete lack of knowledge in medical areas they are not related to. That doesn't mean Gundrey is good, though
I feel like Gundry is the final stage of the "smart" kid in class who thinks everyone else is beneath his intellect, including the teacher. The way he acts so pleased with himself after saying something contrarian really reminds me of some people I've come across in school and in engineering over the years. No matter what your IQ is, when you put your ego above the scientific method, you're functionally an idiot.
That last line goes so hard. I'm banking that lol. One of the best things a professional can say when they're stumped is "I don't know! But I'll look into it and/or refer you to someone who might" I don't think Dr. Gundry would ever say that at this point.
Understanding why the consensus is correct requires understanding of how it was arrived at, but it doesn't allow you to show off how smart you are - because it wasn't your idea. But being contrarian enfranchises people with little knowledge of a subject to feel as though they are part of the conversation. And then other people with little knowledge of the subject go "this guy might be on to something - he sure is smart, and I must be smart for agreeing with him. I AM special". See Eric Weinstein and the slobs who follow him.
@nina_wired, I think what Dr. Dundry was saying is that it is factual and interesting that some people throughout the world smoke a lot of cigarettes and live for a long time and don't get any diseases. Why and how does that happen?
5:35 Another stupid example is radiation poisoning. Here are the benefits from the top of my head: 1) Your blood cells will divide faster, giving the impression of having fast regeneration. Marvel type of stuff. 2) Depending on the country, you'll receive free and extensive medical care. 3) Your friends and family will spend more time thinking about you. 4) Just imagine all the fat you'll burn! 5) Don't need to think about retirement anymore.
5:00 Regarding the stress argument in favour of cigarettes, I strongly disagree, studies have reliably shown that active smokers have a way higher baseline stress level (using both objective measurements and stress assesment questionnaires), and smoking cigarettes only brings you down temporarily from that chronically elevated stress level
yeah he was confusing the immediate effect of smoking with the overall impact on stress. Even on social side, it turns off a lot of people and you have to find places where you can smoke.
Mike made a great point about the net balance. People tend to do this a lot with zero cal soda and flavored waters because they have artificial sweeter in it. Completely focusing on the 1 negative ingredient and ignoring the higher/ more positive benefits
I once called out his PR team.. I dropped a bunch of studies that disproved some of his claims and accused them of false advertising. They replied with "Dr Gundry merely speaks of his own personal experience..."
@@bheemasena2383 nah but really, what were you expecting to happen, that they were gonna be like "oh shit, you're right, we have to send this to gundry asap !" ? Were you going to be the one to change Gundry ?
@insertnicknamehere it's called seeing what happens. I probed to see what their response would be, I all but got an answer that implied "sorry we don't deal in science," and then I was satisfied. Simple.
A Hershey's milk chocolate bar (1.55 oz/44g) has 220 calories and 25g sugar. For the same amount of sugar, you could eat 156g of grapes, or 65 grapes for 104 calories. That's more than 3 times the food volume. Also, the chocolate has 8g sat fat, 5g unsat fat, 35g sodium, 1g fiber, and 3g protein, 160 mg potassium, 4% vitamin D, 6% calcium, and 8% iron. The grapes have 0.2g sat fat, 0.5 g unsat fat, 3g sodium, 1.4g fiber, 0.9 g protein, 191 mg potassium, 0% vitamin D, 1% calcium, 1% iron, 6% vitamin C, and 5% vitamin B6. The grapes have more volume, less fat, less sodium, more vitamin C and B6. But it also has less protein, vitamin D, calcium, and iron. Both are about the same for fiber and potassium. I could see looking at the nutrition and thinking that's a wash. But if you're trying to prevent weight gain, the 3 times volume of grapes for half the calories is a huge benefit to satiation. And of course there's lots of phytochemicals in the grapes that aren't reflected in the nutrition label.
This is the type of person that thrives on attention, don't interview him, don't debate him, don't attend events he's been invited to, don't do reaction videos to his content.
@@ImBarryScottCSS i understand your point. But not speaking up against him is worse than reacting to his bad views. Because seeing someone debunk him is better than seeing what he says and believing it Because no one corrects him/stands up to him
@@joshdunne8792ahh see you think people take all the interviews+ reaction videos at face value. In reality most people are not interested in diving into the nitty gritty of the arguments made. They just want to see who would win in a one on one debate. So some idiots would go start following Dr gundry after seeing this video because they "vibe more with him". That's why this guys should not be given attention, the idiots of the world discover him and flock to him more lol
I disagree. I was unaware of more of his wacky takes, and was interested in some of his other ideas. I wasn't aware of this crazy stuff he said here because I hadn't heard him spend much time talking about it. The guy isn't a TH-camr, he's a doctor. And other doctors should definitely call each other out on issues like this because people will believe them otherwise.
A quick google says 1 cup of grapes (92g) have 15g sugar. 62 calories total. Depends on a bunch of variables, as they're an agricultural product with lots of variation and different varietals. Standard Hersey bar (43g) is 25g sugar and 220 calories total. They aren't even the same amount of sugar
For the people who might be wondering about the Hersheys and grapes conversation. As I recall a Hershey's bar is 60g. According to Crono Meter, 60g of hershey's dark chocolate equals 474g of grapes in kcal. 60g Hershey's stats: 4.2g fiber 28.7g sugar 18.8g fat 2.9g protein Total vitamins in % based on my body: 29% Total minerals in % based on my body: 201% 474g Grapes stats: 4.3g fiber 73.4g sugar 0.8g fat 3.4g protein Total vitamins in % based on my body: 186% Total minerals in % based on my body: 154%
When Gundry tried to switch from grapes to apple juice, Dr. Mike did a great job of keeping him on topic. That's how you have to deal with these people. Gundry was trying to Gish Gallop, subtly change the subject and force Dr. Mike to either defend something he doesn't want to or run into a topic Dr. Mike doesn't have specific knowledge of. Then he could claim "victory" on grapes vs. Hershey bars.
You don't interact with these people at all, that is what you do. He clearly has some sort of mental ill-health. Unless you are a trained psychologist or psychiatrist there is nothing you could do for him. You cannot reason with the crazies.
@@corriedebeer799 Nah, he's a grifter. He wants you to believe that he's a truth teller so he can gain fame and wealth. That's why he says crazy stuff. To gain attention
Steve Gundry (I am intentionally omitting his title) is the precise reason why the appeal to authority fallacy is so dangerous on social media and the internet in general.
yup... I remember every single covid denier referencing him. Which just weakened their argument for anyone who knew who he was. but most people just saw "Dr" and took his word for it
@sagebauer1077 wrong messenger, but what did he say that was wrong? Especially all we know now and have known for years ("safe and effective" is BS, .097% 💀 rate, Fauci made everything up from 6ft the the jab working and admitted to it)
If I had a nickel for every time a well educated immigrant from Russia became famous on the internet by making information about healthcare and wellbeing more accessible and debunking quack healthcare claims made by idiots who shouldn’t have a platform, and goes by the nickname Dr. Mike on everything, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird it happened twice.
Makes you wonder for how many premature deaths this "doctor" is responsible alone. Which in turn makes you think how much lives could be saved if he were to die right now.
@afrodieter8891 the irony is his credentials are way above both Dr. Mikes...his character not so much He started off ok...just said some vegetables (nightshade family) are not good for the gut...which is true Then he went off the deep end
It’s actually way worse, because he does have sources. He just is completely dishonest about what those sources are saying, so that lay people think he’s giving real medical advice
@Violaphobia Yeah, the ability to manipulate studies and credible information to suit your narrative is a very powerful and scary thing. Because the average person doesn't actually fact-check the things they see online. They just see something from a source they believe and take it at face value. I'm not saying I'm much better, but I at least try to make sure I double-check shit so I don't screw myself over.
From the clips I’ve seen of you. It’s actually changed my perspective about working out many different ways and times. Thank you for the education. I offer my gratitude.
John Berardi, the co-founder of Precision Nutrition had a podcast like that. He got Jason Fung to admit that CiCo works. He stopped eventually but I don't know why. I think these podcasts must have a host that knows his/her stuff, is great at talking and discussions, otherwise these quacks may win an argument and some people take that as "he's right".
Omg. When he said "Why would I change a patient who's feeling fine?" reminds me of the people who bring their pets in to our clinic and we have to convince them to treat something before the animal's condition gets worse. "But he seems fine now." So aggravating!
To be fair, there are a lot of doctors and veterinarians who will exaggerate (or even flat out lie) about the state of someone’s condition just to put them through treatment and make money off of them. I had a friend who went to a doctor that told him he had skin cancer and needed treatment right away or his life was in danger. He couldn’t afford the treatment they offered and so just decided to live with it until it killed him. Turns out, he never actually had skin cancer, or it was a very benign form of skin cancer that didn’t require treatment. There are corrupt doctors out there who care nothing for people’s health and only want to make quick cash. It’s a shame we have a profit-driven medical system that isn’t able to weed out weaselly doctors like the one my friend had. You can never fully trust doctors or healthcare people. They’re humans like everyone else and just as prone to mistakes, corruption, and greed as anyone else.
Here is the problem with physicians who have transitioned to a social media platform: if you have enough time to spout nonsense on the internet, do interviews, make bogus snake oil products, and continuously market yourself, you probably are not good at being a physician. As a surgeon, myself, I barely have time to do my job, keep up with my family, and stay healthy. No good physician does this nonsense. If you were good at CT surgery, you would be a CT surgeon not an influencer……
I have multiple people in my life in healthcare. This is true for basically all of them. Bust ass at work, having a family and a hobby and taking care of themselves is their entire life.
Interesting thought and I’m sorry/grateful that you work so hard to keep people healthy! I do think there are some really good doctors out there who make some interesting, honest, and helpful content. Are there any channels that you recommend?
There are good doctors who switched mostly because grifting is much more lucrative (both financially and socially/fame wise) and less time consuming than being in modern healthcare. Not surprising given that a healthy chunk of people get into medicine in the first place because its a generally well respected, higher status, lucrative career field.
I think you can be a good doctor and run a TH-cam channel, but if you’re obviously trying to aggressively capitalize on the influencer market and do all this, then yes, you probably suck at your job. Especially making the claims that you live longer if you smoke and fruits are bad for you, that can mean you’re atrocious at your job…
@@handeggchan1057 100% Just like Dr. Mike illustrated, people want to believe that they are immune from disease and death (often subconsciously) and refuse to accept the limitations of modern medicine, as if you can't do both. Can't follow normie recommendations because normies get sick and die all the time. When someone hears "eating XYZ prevents cancer" for example, emotionally they hear "eating XYZ makes me immune from cancer." These grifters just make it more overt.
Smoking them is bad but if you boil them cigarettes can be a good source of protein. If you do this you will not only get protein rich boiled cigarettes that you can eat while doing workouts very quickly, but you will also live longer, have more energy, boost your immune levels and increase your cognitive ability and intelligence. Do not try to shortcut around boiling by using the microwave, if you do that and eat them you will grow cancer tumors underneath your toenails and have to get surgery to remove the toenails permanently.
@@haidermoyedm3901 It depends on the brand, most cigarettes around 2 minutes but if they are menthols you can get the same effect by pan frying them in light peanut oil.
I used to be the sort of person who would say “don’t give this person a platform” but having learnt about medical frauds from the book If It Sounds Like a Quack, I’m now all for these detailed responses to frauds because it will benefit many more people than will be convinced by him.
Then he gets to double down on the contrarianism. They cancelled me! They don't want you to know they truth. They want you sick to line their pockets etc... Its why contrarianism is such a successful and robust grift.
Yeah, I quit smoking about a month ago and started using Zyn pouches to control the urges. When I asked my smoker friends if they wanted to try them since they worked so well on me, one of them said "Hell no, I heard those are horrible for you". I was like *"WHAT?* YOU SMOKE!" And then she quoted Spain's version of the FDA who wrote smth about Zyn pouches...all while having a cigarette in her mouth.
@@pandamilkshake this rings true. Addicts will reach for any justification to avoid giving up their addiction. I used to be one, I've been smoke free for 21 years now.
I have cancer and I feel fine most of the time. I have days where I look like death walking and others I'm bouncing about with mental clarity and energy.
4:40 "Real doc" here (also a Russian Jew): Cigarettes do not relax you - nicotine is a stimulant. This is a common misconception. They relieve nicotine withdrawal symptoms (tension) and also the act of smoking might be a form of pace breathing, but the bottom line is that statement "cigarettes relax you" is wrong and misleading. PS. Love your videos, just felt obliged to clarify that.
There seems to be a correlation of cigs relaxing some people psychologically rather than physiologically...still, the negatives just monumentally outweigh any possible benefits. I'm glad I never got into them. Also, one of the most expensive habits.
Tobacco and nicotine do actually help you relax and focus. This is factually true. Cigarettes have so much bad crap in them that you should not use those. But smoking a cigar or pipe have actual benefits for calming down. Helping with creativity.
The amount of alternative habits you could use to relax and/or focus that have none of the downsides of smoking are so many that it's kind of a pointless positive anyway.
1 grape = 0.4g sugar; 1 hershey bar = 41g sugar. You have to eat 102 grapes to get equal sugar. Calorically, 360 calories for a hershey's bar; 2 calories per grape, or 180 grapes.
@@gunnarkarlgunnarsson1463yes if your goal is to ingest the most calories in the least amount of time then you should pick Hersey bars over grapes. Most people aren’t trying to do that.
You're forgetting that all sugar is not the same, this is why I hate the fitness industry and bro science. You guys seem to be stuck on the most basic of basics, the best example is calories in vs out makes you gain or lose which metabolically isn't true... You'd rather focus on energy/heat instead of what and how compounds, componenta and bio chemical feedback is interacting with your body??? 😳😳😳 Fitness industry... Really? Carbs for example besides being unnecessary as your liver produces a volume between 7.8-11.221% glucose, not only breaks down into a micro stresses and micro inflammation which effects every bio marker within the body but it also competes with vit C for Glut4 receptors and transporters meaning you need more vit c compared to if you excluded carbs. Then there's the feeding bad and good bacteria in the gut such as Lactobacillus, Bifidobacterium, lactococci, streptococci(only certain subtypes) Enterococci, Lactobacillus fermentum, Lactobacillus plantarum, Lactobacillus rhamnosus, Lactobacillus paracasei, Lactobacillus gasseri, Lactobacillus reuteri, Lactobacillus salivarius, Lactobacillus helveticus Clostridium, Faecalibacterium, Eubacterium, Ruminococcus, Peptococcus, Peptostreptococcus, Acinetobacter calcoaceticus Bacteroides, Bifidobacterium, Streptococcus, Enterobacteriaceae, Enterococcus, Lactobacillus, Ruminococcus, and Campylobacter which again effects every part of the body... But naw, it's calories that makes the biggest difference right 🤣 gym bros... "We think we're smart"
My granddad smoked for about 61 years from 11 to 72. Some dummies would say oh that means that they're good for you... but all of his brothers and sisters outlived most of whom were older. Also he died because he couldn't get enough oxygen and it was directly correlated to him smoking
I see you and I raise you one really crazy story. One of my grandpas was always sick since birth. Asthma was the biggest thing as well as chronic pneumonia and a myriad of crap. In and out of hospitals and would try his best to get as far away from them as soon as he felt better because he was afraid they would kill him faster than his illnesses. Death chased him like "Final Destination" from day 1. He started smoking since his teens well into his 80s. Despite the health issues - especially the lung issues - he never once had any problems with smokes. What ultimately got him in the end was an untreated bacterial infection caused by sloppy hospital staff. Guess he was right...
@@hugejackedman3447 Its also important to note that the downsides of smoking aren't simply lower lifespan. Just like there are obese people who live long and avoid heart disease/diabetes.
@@hugejackedman3447 They just wanted to make REALLY sure that you are anti-smoking, because saying anything at all positive about smoking or nicotine is full on heresy. If you don't want to be a full on authoritarian and mandate that no one else can smoke ever, then you are a horrible person.
@@Puzzlesocks I mean personally I am anti-smoking. But only for myself, my spouse and my kids. I grew up in a house full of smokers. Hated it. Car rides full of that odor, burning my nose, it was the total opposite of fun. But I'm mature enough to not try to bend others to my will based on my own experiences.
I remember a dude in army that would light up after every cardio session and fitness test we did because he insisted that making the lungs process and get rid of the smoke or some shit was teaching them to be more efficient with their oxygen intake.
Reminds me of the karate black belt I met at a convention who randomly said to like 30 people in a class something praising all the smokers he met in the sport that had better lung capacity than their peers…
That interview was gold!!! It was like watching a child get called out on a lie over and over again and still double and triple down. He definitely did not account for the backlash that he received on social media hahaha
That interview was so good, you should really watch it in its entirety! Also, it would be hilarious to see you interview some of these crazy people, i don't think you would ever lose your temper and beat the crap out of them, but the chance is probably never 0 either, so yeah, the suspense would be highly entertaining to watch :D Keep it up!
My friend had 4th stage lungs cancer and he just found out about it 2 weeks before he died because of this cancer he had zero symptoms no pain coughing nothing like this
Man, that sucks. In my case doctors were like: "Yep, that's clearly a cancer". It took them less than one second when they touched me (and I'm no joking, the moment they laid hands on me they said it). And I didn't feel anything abnormal. It was crazy.
In fairness, Dr. Gundry has a very quirky sense of humor. I have read three of his books and in none of them does he promote smoking cigarettes or that chocolate is better than fruit. He is a self-absorbed and a little high on himself but his credentials are solid. He's not a 'fake' doctor. The issue I find with Dr. Gundry's diet is that it's TOO strict and not realistic for most people, including athletes to maintain. That's a valid criticism. However I had kids who had health issues ranging from eczema, bad pimples and allergies. Doctors weren't helping. I put them on the Plant Paradox and everything they had cleared up. Then what we did was slowly add things back to their diet and by doing that found out one was lactose intolerant and the other was gluten intolerant. I also had health improvements but I believe he removes everything possibly bad from your diet. Which lead to deficiencies so we couldn't stay on it. So does his diet fix everything - no way. Can it help - absolutely because you can isolate. His sense of humor is unique so ignore it and accept that he might be pompous. He's not a 'fake' doctor.
Dr Mike, I'm usually not your biggest fan, because sometimes I find you so crass. But this one - you are so right on and soooo funnny! I love you now 🥰
@manuelmatias282 I know the struggle. I quit after 15 years of smoking and dipping heavily. Don't say "this is my last pack" it will never work. Just stop smoking. It's the easiest and hardest thing simultaneously.
0:42 you’re great at docking! We got stuck nose to nose at nationals last year and wrestlers not gymnasts couldn’t separate our foreskin wrapped head to head technique. Yeah, JUST like thumb wrestling. Great question.
8:40 I literally paused the video and said "Oh thats right, what if I got cancer but I'm feeling fine?" Then pressed play to hear you say basically the same thing
Keep fighting bro 💪❤ I probably had undetected testicular cancer for 18 months, I felt completely fine, normal and healthy, apart from the swollen and sore testicle. Even though it spread to my lymph nodes I felt healthy and well. Stay strong, though, beat this cancer 😅
@@NaturallyRapid Hey dude, I'm very sorry to hear that you went trough that. I really have to edit my comment because I now see that its very easy to misinterpret. To clarify: I don't actually have cancer, what I meant was more like "what if I have cancer and I am feeling fine?" Will edit the comment now...
The "Hershey vs Grapes debate" was a winner fosho! This is how everyone NEEDS to think; all things have nuance! Don't only consider the point of comparison the salesman offers, think of ALL other considerations that come into pay. Another simple way i try to describe "nutrition" to ppl attempting to eat healthy; "You wanna keep your calories low, but get as many nutrients as possible. So if some snack you're considering is 300cal, how many nutrients do those calories deliver to the body? You want the nutrient per calorie ratio ^high^." Vitamins, minerals, proteins, fiber, micronutrients, etc... these are all things your body needs to function properly, and can develop issues if not regularly supplied. The point of eating is to get enough of those without to much unused energy (calories). So use the energy or eat more efficiently! EDIT: LOL@17:30 ... your editor is the all time boss of ad integration : D Every... single.... time, he finds a hilariously coincidental place to insert it 😅
Thanks for this Dr. Mike! I’m so glad you called Gundry out!! 👍I’ve never had much faith in anything Gundry has said over the years. He’s moved from one topic to the next, demonizing one thing or another, ie. lectins (which includes “whole grains, beans, legumes, SUGAR”). Plus anyone who matches the colour of his eyeglass frames to his custom tailored suits loses credibility in my eyes and make his segments come across like infomercials 🙄 I find it creepy.🤢
The first second of the interview clip you can already seegundrys eyes are saying "I know its bullshit.. but I'm gonna say it anyways cus it gets views!" LOL
This is such important work. Debunking the misinformation online is necessary. Thank you!! There is hope that perhaps we won’t go down as the stupidest era in history!
I’m thankful info like this exists because people are SO easily misled ESPECIALLY in the realm of nutrition. People tend to sensationalize in order to get clicks, but truth will out as long as we can have these sorts of conversations.
I can't decide if we should or shouldn't be talking about f@#%sticks like this or not. I have a strong suspicion that this guy may be banking on a strategy of just saying bullshit to draw the attention of the media. Then, by the law of large numbers, he is going to get at least some people whom just reflexively act like maybe he has a point (because screw the establishment) and go look into/buy his shit. He still makes money. The controversy is the marketing and trying to rationally argue against him just gives him attention and fuels his consumer base. Basically, he is the Donald Trump of health advice.
Suppose Trump really is this grifter you suggest. You should be pissed then that the Democrats best response is an antique and a Hillary Clinton clone who will say anything to get in power ("It was a debate!"). The difference in this situation is that Doctor Mike is a much better opponent. He doesn't need to lie or manipulate people, he doesn't need to tell me what to think. I can see the other person is lying. The only reason someone like this makes it as far as Trump is because the media and opposition allow it to happen by responding the way they do.
Just a pedantic side note. Nicotine is not broken down in the body into nicotonic acid (niacin). That can be done chemically in a lab, but not by the body. This was, however, how these two substances came to have similar names.
Well, my mom is 80 (relatively active, no oxygen tank) and has been smoking since she was 14, so they must be healthy. I'm 48 and have been smoking 30 years, and I still run 15-20 miles a week @7:10 pace...So, it's fine, right? Genetics matter I guess. I can't grow muscle, but I can trash my lungs forever. And no need to chime in, I'm quitting. Currently I don't have a smoke until about 8pm. Hope to make it 24 hours by the new year.
Physician chiming in here. It’s actually pretty interesting, there are some studies that have indicated that pulmonary complications like COPD are two factor diseases. One would need genetics and exposure to get COPD. To my knowledge, we haven’t yet found a link, but that’s a possible reason why some end up living without the adverse effects of long-term smoking, and others end up with debilitating disease. This is why many know someone within their friend circle or family who has smoked for many years and is relatively healthy. Congrats on working toward quitting! Genuinely impressive!
Not anymore. Smokers are becoming such a minority that smoking today makes you look trashy. It´s the type of people who go to the shop during their lunch and buy a Coke and Malboro. I doubt those folks have the rest of their lives figured out
As a smoker, it doesnt. It may impress below average people but intelligent people know that you are trading health for pleasure, and they wont be impressed.
The only reason they won't let me huff down two packs of Marlboro Reds during my workout is because they are afraid I will become too strong.
Just eat them pre-wo
@qui1766 I have a horseshoe of Cope longcut in and several nicotine patches already- I just need it in my lungs for maximum absorption and gains
@@handeggchan1057 supraphysiological levels of nicotine
Thank you they! For protecting us.
Dumb old geezer
Fun fact about that interview! Dr. Gundry tried to have it taken down due to “defamatory statements regarding Dr. Gundry’s medical advice.” All Dr. Mike had to do to beat the claim was tell the TH-cam rep “watch the video. He made those statements, not us.”
If that's true Gundry knows he's skating in thin ice, cherry picking data.
I've seen other docs that say, "eat this one thing to cure blah". Except the amount needed to cure anything would be far in excess of what you could actually eat in a day without getting sick - same as the fitness gurus that say doing it the way they say to do it will give you awesome gains (except you have to be pretty advanced as a body builder to even have the support of one's stabilizer muscles
Mike and his guest maintained superhuman patience with Gundry for over an hour. He could not have hoped for a better discussion with 2 people educated enough to push back
Dr. Gundry is the new Dr. Oz.🤣
@@Violaphobia the other doctor is Dr. Danielle Belardo, she was amazing too.
@@ViolaphobiaI had to take breaks watching that episode. I can't imagine how frustrating it must have been on set without breaks
I smoke my first ever cigarette after watching this video.
Now I have an addiction that lowers my stress, has created a lighter version of myself and I’ve made friends at the cancer clinic.
Thanks Dr Mike! 💪🏻
Aaaand as a nice addition, you get your daily fluent intake via IV. Okay, it‘s chemo, but hey those are details 😂
@@samuelbraun849you know the cancer causing agents in cigarettes are from added rat poison and other chemicals, and not tobacco or nicotine, no?
win win scenario. don't worry, the coughing is just because it has tren in it.
He went from Hershey Bar to dark chocolate when he got scrutinized. That's called moving the goal posts.
And we all know how much little kids LOVE super dark chocolate. /s
And Hershey bars have almost no coco in them.
and then he's like "i would never give anybody milk chocolate" 😂😂
I tried an actual 95 percent cocoa chocolate bar in Peru I bought it for my gf for Valentine’s Day literally disgusting lol like I guess that’s probably healthy but at that point why not just have like fruit or something
I watched the entire podcast and that's his whole MO. He refuses to directly answer any inquiries on his most ridiculous claims (quoted to him word by word). He just starts talking about something else.
A solid sign of hack nutrition advice is when they say "You know that normal food that everyone eats? Well it has this one compound called 'X' which is also found in 'insert substance you wouldn't eat' so why would you eat it?"
Iron is in nails. If you eat nails,you die. That means, that if you eat spinach, you will also die
Sounds like carnivore dieters reading a list of ingredients
hydroxic acid is the number one chemical found in sewage treatment plants, and is also used extensively in the production of seed oils.
Watching the way Gundry makes his points is so infuriating, it truly feels like he knows he is lying, but that he thinks he is smart enough to get away with it. The level of smug self-satisfaction when you watch the full thing makes me want to throw up. The fact that Doctor mike and Dr. Danielle Belardo both manage to sit through a single one of his arguments and not explode with anger at a man so obviously telling lies to their face is a testament to how well prepared they were. His lies are incessant and dangerous.
He knows he just has to say those things with a straight face and SOMEONE will believe it, even in a context where his ideas get destroyed. It's why he agreed to that interview, he's a socipath.
@@Ogaitnas900 Perfect analysis, thank you. He knows there are enough mentally challenged people out there desperately seeking approval for their out-of-control eating disorders that will listen and spread his lies, he just needs to keep a straight face while lying in his fancy Sunday suit, and they're convinced. Sociopathic indeed because he is exploiting his viewers' and their children's health for his own financial profit.
He's not stupid, he absolutely knows he's a liar. He may truly think his diet is the best, but he's not willing to do the work to prove it, because that requires overcoming decades of research that flies in the face of his assumptions, so the easier path is just to say bold face lies and use redirection with confidence and think that the ends justify the means.
He is repulsive and that creepy voice of his .. the evil villain in a cartoon
@@nichtsistkostenlos6565 do you think he's lying to further what he considers the greater good: that his diet is superior, and getting people to switch to it justifies feeding them lies to get them there?
I do have to wonder, what happens when one of his readers gets cancer: it's statistically a near certainty if enough people read his books that one of them will get very ill, even from something unrelated to his diet recommendation.
If “trust me bro” was a person it’d be this guy.
Funny thing is he sent mike a cease and desist so he'd take that episode down 💀
Yeah id be Dr.Mike too
@user-vg5ie5hm1u It blows my mind how people like you just say shit like this with the wealth of videos showing Dr. Mikes points and studies backing him alongside any counter points and Mike changing his opinion when scientific research improves. You still say shit that makes no sense out of some bias ignorance. It's fine to disagree with him or dislike his demeanor but good god be right for once in your life.
@@Korksbebig Mike is an idiot,
So is "sience"
Or Donald Trump
Dr Gundry's right about smoking. All the coughing is a great abs workout
LOL
😂
Absolutely, also have you seen the size of the accessory muscles on a COPD patient in respiratory failure. They are jacked bro.
Dr. Gundry is the new Dr. Oz.🤣
combine with tren for maximum cough gains
Thank you for all your insight, Dr. Mike. Your influence has helped me go from 257lbs to 214lbs since April 13th. I appreciate you helping me educate myself on my health.
Q: Are you braindead?
Dr. Gundry: Might as well.
He was the President of the American Heart Association and a highly respected heart surgeon
What does that say about American intelligence?
Miiighttttt asss wellllllll
@@slee2695That’s it’s clearly not very high lol can’t believe some people actively believe and are subscribed to him
As someone from medical field, a lot of highly skilled specialists may show complete lack of knowledge in medical areas they are not related to.
That doesn't mean Gundrey is good, though
Death
Downsides: You’re dead.
Upsides: No more leg day.
Worth it
Downsides: no more leg day
Upsides: you're dead
@@yea4253all upsides
@@yea4253 u good bro? Who hurt you💀
Those leg days are more annoying than a politician
I feel like Gundry is the final stage of the "smart" kid in class who thinks everyone else is beneath his intellect, including the teacher. The way he acts so pleased with himself after saying something contrarian really reminds me of some people I've come across in school and in engineering over the years. No matter what your IQ is, when you put your ego above the scientific method, you're functionally an idiot.
That last line goes so hard. I'm banking that lol. One of the best things a professional can say when they're stumped is "I don't know! But I'll look into it and/or refer you to someone who might" I don't think Dr. Gundry would ever say that at this point.
Understanding why the consensus is correct requires understanding of how it was arrived at, but it doesn't allow you to show off how smart you are - because it wasn't your idea. But being contrarian enfranchises people with little knowledge of a subject to feel as though they are part of the conversation. And then other people with little knowledge of the subject go "this guy might be on to something - he sure is smart, and I must be smart for agreeing with him. I AM special". See Eric Weinstein and the slobs who follow him.
@@David-qj1mr Dr. Gundry is a classic Narcissist...
and when you put the scientific method on a pedestal rather than thinking things through, you're functionally a religious zealot.
@@toeguidesbruh the scientific method is thinking things through, with people around you? The fuck are you actually talking about?
I superset my Deadlifts with cigarettes.
Gotta get that that lung full ROM
The real Bulgarian training
I drop set my cigarettes
You're weak. I superset them with cigars myoreps.
And some fentanil to help with recovery
I lost my mom to COPD 6 weeks ago, caused from a lifetime of smoking. Eff Dr. Gundry. This makes me so upset! I’m glad you’re debunking this bs.
I'm so sorry for your loss. This guy is a real a-hole.
@nina_wired,
I think what Dr. Dundry was saying is that it is factual and interesting that some people throughout the world smoke a lot of cigarettes and live for a long time and don't get any diseases. Why and how does that happen?
@@nf0999 Genetic predisposition to certain ailments, other co-morbidities in connection with smoking, luck
@@DenizcanTulan
I guess.
@@nf0999 attributing long life to smoking is some cult bs. It's already 2024!
The ad inserts are top tier. Very natural
To quote the philosopher Obi Wan Kenobi "You don't want to sell me death sticks, you want to go home and rethink your life"
One the best lines in a Starwars movie ever 😂
I prefer the Star Wars Abridged version for this case XD
@@flintthestonewhat did he say in that version?
These are not the lungs you are looking for...
Ahahaha 😂😂😂😂
5:35 Another stupid example is radiation poisoning. Here are the benefits from the top of my head:
1) Your blood cells will divide faster, giving the impression of having fast regeneration. Marvel type of stuff.
2) Depending on the country, you'll receive free and extensive medical care.
3) Your friends and family will spend more time thinking about you.
4) Just imagine all the fat you'll burn!
5) Don't need to think about retirement anymore.
You forgot the cons... On my way to a nuclear power plant right now
@@kickgreven3921 there are no cons, you won't live long enough to experience the cons
It also solves world hunger. 1 gram of Plutonium is 20,000,000,000 calories.
Sounds amazing, sign me up :D
But is not radiation poisoning caused by a leaky cut?
Grapes have sugar and will turn you into a gremlin if you eat them after midnight.
-Dr. Gundry on nutrient timing
Wow! That explains so much about my life. Sincerely/ Gremlin after midnight
Dr. Gundry is the new Dr. Oz.🤣
He's not the only person shooting down fruit because it's sugar. There's plenty of TH-cam "Drs" that are on board.
5:00 Regarding the stress argument in favour of cigarettes, I strongly disagree, studies have reliably shown that active smokers have a way higher baseline stress level (using both objective measurements and stress assesment questionnaires), and smoking cigarettes only brings you down temporarily from that chronically elevated stress level
...brings it down to non-smoker baseline stress levels, btw. So the supposed claim of "more relaxed than non-smokers" is gone as well.
yeah he was confusing the immediate effect of smoking with the overall impact on stress. Even on social side, it turns off a lot of people and you have to find places where you can smoke.
Mike made a great point about the net balance. People tend to do this a lot with zero cal soda and flavored waters because they have artificial sweeter in it. Completely focusing on the 1 negative ingredient and ignoring the higher/ more positive benefits
Diet Coke is for people addicted to soda who have no back-bone.
I once called out his PR team.. I dropped a bunch of studies that disproved some of his claims and accused them of false advertising.
They replied with "Dr Gundry merely speaks of his own personal experience..."
You probably need to have something meaningful in your life bro. Imagine wasting time doing that 😂
@nukiesduke6868 it took less time than it took for you to come on here to compensate for your insecurities.
@@nukiesduke6868I wouldn't like you
@@bheemasena2383 nah but really, what were you expecting to happen, that they were gonna be like "oh shit, you're right, we have to send this to gundry asap !" ?
Were you going to be the one to change Gundry ?
@insertnicknamehere it's called seeing what happens. I probed to see what their response would be, I all but got an answer that implied "sorry we don't deal in science," and then I was satisfied. Simple.
A Hershey's milk chocolate bar (1.55 oz/44g) has 220 calories and 25g sugar. For the same amount of sugar, you could eat 156g of grapes, or 65 grapes for 104 calories. That's more than 3 times the food volume. Also, the chocolate has 8g sat fat, 5g unsat fat, 35g sodium, 1g fiber, and 3g protein, 160 mg potassium, 4% vitamin D, 6% calcium, and 8% iron. The grapes have 0.2g sat fat, 0.5 g unsat fat, 3g sodium, 1.4g fiber, 0.9 g protein, 191 mg potassium, 0% vitamin D, 1% calcium, 1% iron, 6% vitamin C, and 5% vitamin B6. The grapes have more volume, less fat, less sodium, more vitamin C and B6. But it also has less protein, vitamin D, calcium, and iron. Both are about the same for fiber and potassium. I could see looking at the nutrition and thinking that's a wash. But if you're trying to prevent weight gain, the 3 times volume of grapes for half the calories is a huge benefit to satiation. And of course there's lots of phytochemicals in the grapes that aren't reflected in the nutrition label.
I wouldn’t have thought grapes had fat in them. The more you know..
And if you really need the 3g of protein from a hershey bar... you mioght need to reconsider your diet a little
Sodium must be less than 35g in a 44g bar of chocolate 😂
Chocolate covered raisins, get both at the same time 😆
35g of sodium?! think your numbers are a bit off there mate, that would be inedible. 350mg maybe? 35mg? not sure, but definitely not 35g.
This is the type of person that thrives on attention, don't interview him, don't debate him, don't attend events he's been invited to, don't do reaction videos to his content.
Do volunteer to testify at any trial brought against him.
Lmao that follow up reply is gold
@@ImBarryScottCSS i understand your point. But not speaking up against him is worse than reacting to his bad views. Because seeing someone debunk him is better than seeing what he says and believing it Because no one corrects him/stands up to him
@@joshdunne8792ahh see you think people take all the interviews+ reaction videos at face value. In reality most people are not interested in diving into the nitty gritty of the arguments made. They just want to see who would win in a one on one debate. So some idiots would go start following Dr gundry after seeing this video because they "vibe more with him". That's why this guys should not be given attention, the idiots of the world discover him and flock to him more lol
I disagree. I was unaware of more of his wacky takes, and was interested in some of his other ideas. I wasn't aware of this crazy stuff he said here because I hadn't heard him spend much time talking about it.
The guy isn't a TH-camr, he's a doctor. And other doctors should definitely call each other out on issues like this because people will believe them otherwise.
A quick google says 1 cup of grapes (92g) have 15g sugar. 62 calories total. Depends on a bunch of variables, as they're an agricultural product with lots of variation and different varietals.
Standard Hersey bar (43g) is 25g sugar and 220 calories total. They aren't even the same amount of sugar
And to add on, grapes also provide fibre (a chocolate bar doesn't) which helps to slow the rate at which your body absorbs it into your bloodstream.
You're forgetting that they're not REFINED SUGAR. AND HAVE FIBER.
For the people who might be wondering about the Hersheys and grapes conversation. As I recall a Hershey's bar is 60g. According to Crono Meter, 60g of hershey's dark chocolate equals 474g of grapes in kcal.
60g Hershey's stats:
4.2g fiber
28.7g sugar
18.8g fat
2.9g protein
Total vitamins in % based on my body: 29%
Total minerals in % based on my body: 201%
474g Grapes stats:
4.3g fiber
73.4g sugar
0.8g fat
3.4g protein
Total vitamins in % based on my body: 186%
Total minerals in % based on my body: 154%
When Gundry tried to switch from grapes to apple juice, Dr. Mike did a great job of keeping him on topic. That's how you have to deal with these people. Gundry was trying to Gish Gallop, subtly change the subject and force Dr. Mike to either defend something he doesn't want to or run into a topic Dr. Mike doesn't have specific knowledge of. Then he could claim "victory" on grapes vs. Hershey bars.
agreed dr mike is sharp!
You don't interact with these people at all, that is what you do. He clearly has some sort of mental ill-health. Unless you are a trained psychologist or psychiatrist there is nothing you could do for him. You cannot reason with the crazies.
@@corriedebeer799
Nah, he's a grifter. He wants you to believe that he's a truth teller so he can gain fame and wealth. That's why he says crazy stuff. To gain attention
Steve Gundry (I am intentionally omitting his title) is the precise reason why the appeal to authority fallacy is so dangerous on social media and the internet in general.
I was astonished how many credentialed medical professionals are legit scammers. drs mercola, chopra and oz maniacs like the late rashid buttar sad!
yup... I remember every single covid denier referencing him. Which just weakened their argument for anyone who knew who he was. but most people just saw "Dr" and took his word for it
@@sagebauer1077 same with that submoronic dr malone and mccullough they are a disgrace to the profession
@sagebauer1077 wrong messenger, but what did he say that was wrong? Especially all we know now and have known for years ("safe and effective" is BS, .097% 💀 rate, Fauci made everything up from 6ft the the jab working and admitted to it)
Dr. Gundry is the new Dr. Oz.🤣
If I had a nickel for every time a well educated immigrant from Russia became famous on the internet by making information about healthcare and wellbeing more accessible and debunking quack healthcare claims made by idiots who shouldn’t have a platform, and goes by the nickname Dr. Mike on everything, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird it happened twice.
Makes you wonder for how many premature deaths this "doctor" is responsible alone. Which in turn makes you think how much lives could be saved if he were to die right now.
He was the President of the American Heart Association and a highly respected heart surgeon
Imagine where America is headed
@@slee2695 That is insane.
@afrodieter8891 the irony is his credentials are way above both Dr. Mikes...his character not so much
He started off ok...just said some vegetables (nightshade family) are not good for the gut...which is true
Then he went off the deep end
I subbed and became a member when this video came out and I finally got my dead unicorn. Thanks Doctor Mike!
Mine arrived dead and partially decomposed. It was traumatic but he did warn us.
I mean, I do have a symbiotic relationship with my metastatic lung cancer.
😂😂😂
darn leaky gut at it again
"We are Cancer"
This made me laugh. I also hope OP doesn't really have metastatic lung cancer.
If I may UMM AKTUALLLY for a moment, doesn't 'symbiotic' imply that the metastasized cancer also offers you some benefit?
The cough after saying cigarette smoker's was unintentional, but I still appreciate the humor in it
His argument is basically:
My source, my source is that I made it the fuck up.
It’s actually way worse, because he does have sources. He just is completely dishonest about what those sources are saying, so that lay people think he’s giving real medical advice
@Violaphobia
Yeah, the ability to manipulate studies and credible information to suit your narrative is a very powerful and scary thing. Because the average person doesn't actually fact-check the things they see online. They just see something from a source they believe and take it at face value.
I'm not saying I'm much better, but I at least try to make sure I double-check shit so I don't screw myself over.
"If your unicorn arrives dead, eh, it's magic anyway" ~ Dr. Mike Israetel
From the clips I’ve seen of you. It’s actually changed my perspective about working out many different ways and times. Thank you for the education. I offer my gratitude.
Dr mike should make a channel where he confronts these idiots. That would be fun to watch
YES
Never going to, it's impossible to change their opinion and will end up with frustration and pain during the every damn interview
omg imagine Dr. Mike trolling them half the time XD
Would be a comedy hit
John Berardi, the co-founder of Precision Nutrition had a podcast like that. He got Jason Fung to admit that CiCo works. He stopped eventually but I don't know why. I think these podcasts must have a host that knows his/her stuff, is great at talking and discussions, otherwise these quacks may win an argument and some people take that as "he's right".
Attention span too small to reach downsides of smoking. Going to smoke 2 packs a day because it’s time to cut and I’m stressed.
Cigarettes were the OG ozempic
nicotine good, cigarettes bad.
@@hayme212 That's why no one was fat in the 50s
@@rdrrrthat and all the movement.
@@Thezuule1 50s housewives on that mail-order meth. We used to be a _real_ country!
Historically we used mercury for many different ailments. I wonder if we can convince him to use some?
Love seeing you crushing out there Dr. Mike. Keep up the good work!
Omg. When he said "Why would I change a patient who's feeling fine?" reminds me of the people who bring their pets in to our clinic and we have to convince them to treat something before the animal's condition gets worse. "But he seems fine now." So aggravating!
To be fair, there are a lot of doctors and veterinarians who will exaggerate (or even flat out lie) about the state of someone’s condition just to put them through treatment and make money off of them. I had a friend who went to a doctor that told him he had skin cancer and needed treatment right away or his life was in danger. He couldn’t afford the treatment they offered and so just decided to live with it until it killed him. Turns out, he never actually had skin cancer, or it was a very benign form of skin cancer that didn’t require treatment.
There are corrupt doctors out there who care nothing for people’s health and only want to make quick cash. It’s a shame we have a profit-driven medical system that isn’t able to weed out weaselly doctors like the one my friend had. You can never fully trust doctors or healthcare people. They’re humans like everyone else and just as prone to mistakes, corruption, and greed as anyone else.
Here is the problem with physicians who have transitioned to a social media platform: if you have enough time to spout nonsense on the internet, do interviews, make bogus snake oil products, and continuously market yourself, you probably are not good at being a physician. As a surgeon, myself, I barely have time to do my job, keep up with my family, and stay healthy. No good physician does this nonsense. If you were good at CT surgery, you would be a CT surgeon not an influencer……
I have multiple people in my life in healthcare. This is true for basically all of them. Bust ass at work, having a family and a hobby and taking care of themselves is their entire life.
Interesting thought and I’m sorry/grateful that you work so hard to keep people healthy! I do think there are some really good doctors out there who make some interesting, honest, and helpful content. Are there any channels that you recommend?
There are good doctors who switched mostly because grifting is much more lucrative (both financially and socially/fame wise) and less time consuming than being in modern healthcare. Not surprising given that a healthy chunk of people get into medicine in the first place because its a generally well respected, higher status, lucrative career field.
I think you can be a good doctor and run a TH-cam channel, but if you’re obviously trying to aggressively capitalize on the influencer market and do all this, then yes, you probably suck at your job. Especially making the claims that you live longer if you smoke and fruits are bad for you, that can mean you’re atrocious at your job…
@@luked4043I’m not him but Dr Chris Raynor seems like quite a good channel and a pretty honest doc
Well timed cough at 6:30.
cracked me up too XD
fr
Haha true
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sensational
I came here to say the same thing 😅
Damn no way someone genuinly thinks that
There are legitimately people so distrustful of medicine that they will take any contrary position you can imagine.
hes probably trolling for cloud, didnt hear from the guy since now^^
People will believe anything to justify their vices
@@handeggchan1057 100% Just like Dr. Mike illustrated, people want to believe that they are immune from disease and death (often subconsciously) and refuse to accept the limitations of modern medicine, as if you can't do both. Can't follow normie recommendations because normies get sick and die all the time. When someone hears "eating XYZ prevents cancer" for example, emotionally they hear "eating XYZ makes me immune from cancer." These grifters just make it more overt.
@@luca_millahe doesn't smoke himself, he knows this is bullshit.
Smoking them is bad but if you boil them cigarettes can be a good source of protein.
If you do this you will not only get protein rich boiled cigarettes that you can eat while doing workouts very quickly, but you will also live longer, have more energy, boost your immune levels and increase your cognitive ability and intelligence.
Do not try to shortcut around boiling by using the microwave, if you do that and eat them you will grow cancer tumors underneath your toenails and have to get surgery to remove the toenails permanently.
Bro what the fuck, I always fuck up my boiled cigarettes. How long should I leave them in the boiling water?
@@haidermoyedm3901 It depends on the brand, most cigarettes around 2 minutes but if they are menthols you can get the same effect by pan frying them in light peanut oil.
This sounds like google gemini generated dietary advice
These app plugs are the best ad transitions I have ever seen in my life. XD SELL ME MORE
I used to be the sort of person who would say “don’t give this person a platform” but having learnt about medical frauds from the book If It Sounds Like a Quack, I’m now all for these detailed responses to frauds because it will benefit many more people than will be convinced by him.
Indeed. Don't silence idiots, teach people to think instead.
I'm not sure why he is still allowed to call himself a doctor.
Revoke that stuff immediately.
easier to disbar a lawyer and even that is super tough
Then he gets to double down on the contrarianism. They cancelled me! They don't want you to know they truth. They want you sick to line their pockets etc... Its why contrarianism is such a successful and robust grift.
I don't think I've ever seen a person who deserve to get a refund of their degree as much as "Dr." Gundry.
Haha I like the quotation marks for the Dr. Part.
The former President of the American Heart Association
The ad right before this video was…wait for it…a Dr Gundry ad.
Damn
No way
this is your grand delivery... thank you, dude. u rule. gratitude.
Yeah, I quit smoking about a month ago and started using Zyn pouches to control the urges. When I asked my smoker friends if they wanted to try them since they worked so well on me, one of them said "Hell no, I heard those are horrible for you". I was like *"WHAT?* YOU SMOKE!" And then she quoted Spain's version of the FDA who wrote smth about Zyn pouches...all while having a cigarette in her mouth.
“That milk was left on the counter in a warm kitchen for 3 hours. It’ll make you ill”
*he says whilst eating raw chicken*
I recently quit smoking cigarettes and switched to nicotine pouches. So far, it's going well, and I haven't felt the urge to smoke.
@@paulmblifts Same here. I have been able to cut it down to 2 nicotine pouches per day. So far, it's going great.
@@pandamilkshake this rings true. Addicts will reach for any justification to avoid giving up their addiction. I used to be one, I've been smoke free for 21 years now.
@@pandamilkshake p.s. you're doing great! One day at a time, it's all you've got to do.
I have cancer and I feel fine most of the time. I have days where I look like death walking and others I'm bouncing about with mental clarity and energy.
Take care mate.
You should follow the Gundry diet, it'll cure you right up !! In all seriousness, take care and power through !!
4:40 "Real doc" here (also a Russian Jew): Cigarettes do not relax you - nicotine is a stimulant. This is a common misconception. They relieve nicotine withdrawal symptoms (tension) and also the act of smoking might be a form of pace breathing, but the bottom line is that statement "cigarettes relax you" is wrong and misleading. PS. Love your videos, just felt obliged to clarify that.
There seems to be a correlation of cigs relaxing some people psychologically rather than physiologically...still, the negatives just monumentally outweigh any possible benefits. I'm glad I never got into them. Also, one of the most expensive habits.
Tobacco and nicotine do actually help you relax and focus. This is factually true. Cigarettes have so much bad crap in them that you should not use those. But smoking a cigar or pipe have actual benefits for calming down. Helping with creativity.
A classical case of „most plausible mechanism of action: withdrawal reversal“
The amount of alternative habits you could use to relax and/or focus that have none of the downsides of smoking are so many that it's kind of a pointless positive anyway.
thank you dr sam
Truly everything has upsides. Dying means you don't have to pay your bills anymore, you don't have to go to work, you won't be sore every again, etc.
Thank you Dr. Mike, I love your pedagogical style and your videos always seem shorter than they actually are, they are very captivating !
My wife was quick to point out, grapes can be made into wine, and that’s just wonderful.
the medially recommended daily intake of alcohol is ZERO :D
Well anything with carbs can be turned into alcohol.😅
Thanks for covering this guy, never watch his vids, but always see ads from him telling me blueberries are going to kill me.
What😂
1 grape = 0.4g sugar; 1 hershey bar = 41g sugar. You have to eat 102 grapes to get equal sugar.
Calorically, 360 calories for a hershey's bar; 2 calories per grape, or 180 grapes.
180 grapes is like 3 bowls of grapes. Eating 5 Hershey bars is probably easier and quicker than 3 bowls of grapes.
500 GRAPES
@@gunnarkarlgunnarsson1463yes if your goal is to ingest the most calories in the least amount of time then you should pick Hersey bars over grapes. Most people aren’t trying to do that.
@@hastyscorpion Unless you live in America 🥴 (American here)
You're forgetting that all sugar is not the same, this is why I hate the fitness industry and bro science. You guys seem to be stuck on the most basic of basics, the best example is calories in vs out makes you gain or lose which metabolically isn't true... You'd rather focus on energy/heat instead of what and how compounds, componenta and bio chemical feedback is interacting with your body??? 😳😳😳 Fitness industry... Really? Carbs for example besides being unnecessary as your liver produces a volume between 7.8-11.221% glucose, not only breaks down into a micro stresses and micro inflammation which effects every bio marker within the body but it also competes with vit C for Glut4 receptors and transporters meaning you need more vit c compared to if you excluded carbs. Then there's the feeding bad and good bacteria in the gut such as Lactobacillus, Bifidobacterium, lactococci, streptococci(only certain subtypes) Enterococci, Lactobacillus fermentum, Lactobacillus plantarum, Lactobacillus rhamnosus, Lactobacillus paracasei, Lactobacillus gasseri, Lactobacillus reuteri, Lactobacillus salivarius, Lactobacillus helveticus
Clostridium, Faecalibacterium, Eubacterium, Ruminococcus, Peptococcus, Peptostreptococcus, Acinetobacter calcoaceticus
Bacteroides, Bifidobacterium, Streptococcus, Enterobacteriaceae, Enterococcus, Lactobacillus, Ruminococcus, and Campylobacter which again effects every part of the body... But naw, it's calories that makes the biggest difference right 🤣 gym bros... "We think we're smart"
the way the app advertisement was cut in made it sound like a Hershey bar was a good reward after years of working on your gains
12:50 i lost it 😂
17:29 Thats the most sleek transition to advertisement i've seen in a while
My granddad smoked for about 61 years from 11 to 72. Some dummies would say oh that means that they're good for you... but all of his brothers and sisters outlived most of whom were older. Also he died because he couldn't get enough oxygen and it was directly correlated to him smoking
I see you and I raise you one really crazy story. One of my grandpas was always sick since birth. Asthma was the biggest thing as well as chronic pneumonia and a myriad of crap. In and out of hospitals and would try his best to get as far away from them as soon as he felt better because he was afraid they would kill him faster than his illnesses. Death chased him like "Final Destination" from day 1. He started smoking since his teens well into his 80s. Despite the health issues - especially the lung issues - he never once had any problems with smokes.
What ultimately got him in the end was an untreated bacterial infection caused by sloppy hospital staff. Guess he was right...
@@hugejackedman3447 Its also important to note that the downsides of smoking aren't simply lower lifespan. Just like there are obese people who live long and avoid heart disease/diabetes.
@@TheGreektrojan Noted, but what are you wanting me to know exactly?
@@hugejackedman3447 They just wanted to make REALLY sure that you are anti-smoking, because saying anything at all positive about smoking or nicotine is full on heresy. If you don't want to be a full on authoritarian and mandate that no one else can smoke ever, then you are a horrible person.
@@Puzzlesocks I mean personally I am anti-smoking. But only for myself, my spouse and my kids.
I grew up in a house full of smokers. Hated it. Car rides full of that odor, burning my nose, it was the total opposite of fun. But I'm mature enough to not try to bend others to my will based on my own experiences.
I remember a dude in army that would light up after every cardio session and fitness test we did because he insisted that making the lungs process and get rid of the smoke or some shit was teaching them to be more efficient with their oxygen intake.
Reminds me of the karate black belt I met at a convention who randomly said to like 30 people in a class something praising all the smokers he met in the sport that had better lung capacity than their peers…
@@ajofmars2579 I did know a kickboxer from some eastern European country who would chain smoke before and after class and just annihilate everyone.
I remember the one guy at school I once asked why he smoked. He told me that he believed the road to his lungs should be tarred. Deluded IKR?
You’ll finally have friends on the list of pros for cigs killed me😂😂
That interview was gold!!! It was like watching a child get called out on a lie over and over again and still double and triple down. He definitely did not account for the backlash that he received on social media hahaha
That interview was so good, you should really watch it in its entirety! Also, it would be hilarious to see you interview some of these crazy people, i don't think you would ever lose your temper and beat the crap out of them, but the chance is probably never 0 either, so yeah, the suspense would be highly entertaining to watch :D
Keep it up!
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20:31 sums it all up haha
It really does. What a greasy ****
My friend had 4th stage lungs cancer and he just found out about it 2 weeks before he died because of this cancer he had zero symptoms no pain coughing nothing like this
Man, that sucks. In my case doctors were like: "Yep, that's clearly a cancer". It took them less than one second when they touched me (and I'm no joking, the moment they laid hands on me they said it). And I didn't feel anything abnormal. It was crazy.
In fairness, Dr. Gundry has a very quirky sense of humor. I have read three of his books and in none of them does he promote smoking cigarettes or that chocolate is better than fruit. He is a self-absorbed and a little high on himself but his credentials are solid. He's not a 'fake' doctor. The issue I find with Dr. Gundry's diet is that it's TOO strict and not realistic for most people, including athletes to maintain. That's a valid criticism. However I had kids who had health issues ranging from eczema, bad pimples and allergies. Doctors weren't helping. I put them on the Plant Paradox and everything they had cleared up. Then what we did was slowly add things back to their diet and by doing that found out one was lactose intolerant and the other was gluten intolerant. I also had health improvements but I believe he removes everything possibly bad from your diet. Which lead to deficiencies so we couldn't stay on it. So does his diet fix everything - no way. Can it help - absolutely because you can isolate. His sense of humor is unique so ignore it and accept that he might be pompous. He's not a 'fake' doctor.
I bought Versa Gripps recently - my rows and RDLs made gains immediately and haven't stopped.
This ad transition was best yet
1:45 the list of people taller than you is also taller than you
Been waiting for this for a long time.
Also dead serious I appreciate that you make sure everyone is getting what your saying (or at least as many people as possible)
Dr Mike, I'm usually not your biggest fan, because sometimes I find you so crass. But this one - you are so right on and soooo funnny! I love you now 🥰
Gundry is way more interested in being popular and getting attention than he is in actually helping people.
"You're saying that could eliminate ALL disease?"
"...Yeah" *shrugs shoulders*
Every time Mike mentions net effects my brain goes "HUMAN. RANDOMIZED. CONTROL. TRIALS!"
Layne lives in our heads rent free lmao. TBF its a good thought to have to prevent falling into a grift.
Never forget. It's about outcomes, not mechanisms!!!
6:30 smokers cough 😷
😂😂😂😂😂😂 it was hilarious
Doctor Mike’s communication skills are beyond spectacular.
which one? i think both are pretty good
@@aperture0that’s true. I’m talking about Doctor spelt out. Interviewing someone he knows that will be hard to interview.
@@alecrechtiene558 oh yes lol. got it
4:24 we don't do shorts round here, only 100's for the health conscious smokers
As someone who just started smoking again after quitting for 2 years this video came at right time. Its time to quit again
@manuelmatias282 I know the struggle. I quit after 15 years of smoking and dipping heavily. Don't say "this is my last pack" it will never work. Just stop smoking. It's the easiest and hardest thing simultaneously.
0:42 you’re great at docking! We got stuck nose to nose at nationals last year and wrestlers not gymnasts couldn’t separate our foreskin wrapped head to head technique. Yeah, JUST like thumb wrestling. Great question.
what the actual fuck are you on about
couldn't separate what... 😢
8:40 I literally paused the video and said "Oh thats right, what if I got cancer but I'm feeling fine?" Then pressed play to hear you say basically the same thing
Keep fighting bro 💪❤
I probably had undetected testicular cancer for 18 months, I felt completely fine, normal and healthy, apart from the swollen and sore testicle. Even though it spread to my lymph nodes I felt healthy and well.
Stay strong, though, beat this cancer 😅
@@NaturallyRapid Hey dude, I'm very sorry to hear that you went trough that. I really have to edit my comment because I now see that its very easy to misinterpret. To clarify: I don't actually have cancer, what I meant was more like "what if I have cancer and I am feeling fine?" Will edit the comment now...
The "Hershey vs Grapes debate" was a winner fosho!
This is how everyone NEEDS to think; all things have nuance!
Don't only consider the point of comparison the salesman offers, think of ALL other considerations that come into pay.
Another simple way i try to describe "nutrition" to ppl attempting to eat healthy;
"You wanna keep your calories low, but get as many nutrients as possible. So if some snack you're considering is 300cal, how many nutrients do those calories deliver to the body?
You want the nutrient per calorie ratio ^high^."
Vitamins, minerals, proteins, fiber, micronutrients, etc... these are all things your body needs to function properly, and can develop issues if not regularly supplied.
The point of eating is to get enough of those without to much unused energy (calories).
So use the energy or eat more efficiently!
EDIT: LOL@17:30 ... your editor is the all time boss of ad integration : D
Every... single.... time, he finds a hilariously coincidental place to insert it 😅
Thanks for this Dr. Mike! I’m so glad you called Gundry out!! 👍I’ve never had much faith in anything Gundry has said over the years. He’s moved from one topic to the next, demonizing one thing or another, ie. lectins (which includes “whole grains, beans, legumes, SUGAR”). Plus anyone who matches the colour of his eyeglass frames to his custom tailored suits loses credibility in my eyes and make his segments come across like infomercials 🙄 I find it creepy.🤢
The first second of the interview clip you can already seegundrys eyes are saying "I know its bullshit.. but I'm gonna say it anyways cus it gets views!" LOL
Views, and maybe, just maybe someone will buy into it and try out his supplements, or buy his book, etc.
This is such important work. Debunking the misinformation online is necessary. Thank you!! There is hope that perhaps we won’t go down as the stupidest era in history!
Dr. Gundry's been real quiet since this dropped
It literally just dropped, bro's probably sleeping
@@asbjrnlomborg7830hmmmm maybe thats the joke
@@asbjrnlomborg7830that podcast with Dr Mike MD happened like a few months ago.
@@RobiGold11spoderman pfp era was peak meme era
@@asbjrnlomborg7830these interview clips have been out for weeks
“Oh idk why would you treat a cancer patient that feels great”? 💀💀💀💀💀
I’m thankful info like this exists because people are SO easily misled ESPECIALLY in the realm of nutrition. People tend to sensationalize in order to get clicks, but truth will out as long as we can have these sorts of conversations.
Gundry is the perfect manifestation of the saying, "stupid is as stupid does."
I can't decide if we should or shouldn't be talking about f@#%sticks like this or not. I have a strong suspicion that this guy may be banking on a strategy of just saying bullshit to draw the attention of the media. Then, by the law of large numbers, he is going to get at least some people whom just reflexively act like maybe he has a point (because screw the establishment) and go look into/buy his shit. He still makes money. The controversy is the marketing and trying to rationally argue against him just gives him attention and fuels his consumer base. Basically, he is the Donald Trump of health advice.
TDS
Suppose Trump really is this grifter you suggest. You should be pissed then that the Democrats best response is an antique and a Hillary Clinton clone who will say anything to get in power ("It was a debate!"). The difference in this situation is that Doctor Mike is a much better opponent. He doesn't need to lie or manipulate people, he doesn't need to tell me what to think. I can see the other person is lying. The only reason someone like this makes it as far as Trump is because the media and opposition allow it to happen by responding the way they do.
@@MichaelAnderson-vp4kb lol ikr, again I see Trump's name appear out of nowhere.
If he did everything the same and was a smoker instead of steroid user, I know which version would live longer
1:36 so you're telling me there is a multiverse of Dr. Mikes? Oh my...🥵
mr dr mike, sir dr mike, lord dr mike, sgt dr mike, king dr mike, president dr mike, prisoner dr mike, dr mike michael, dr mike jr, etc.
Just a pedantic side note. Nicotine is not broken down in the body into nicotonic acid (niacin). That can be done chemically in a lab, but not by the body. This was, however, how these two substances came to have similar names.
Bro that transition to the app ad
Legendary
Well, my mom is 80 (relatively active, no oxygen tank) and has been smoking since she was 14, so they must be healthy. I'm 48 and have been smoking 30 years, and I still run 15-20 miles a week @7:10 pace...So, it's fine, right? Genetics matter I guess. I can't grow muscle, but I can trash my lungs forever. And no need to chime in, I'm quitting. Currently I don't have a smoke until about 8pm. Hope to make it 24 hours by the new year.
I bet there are more non-smokers 80 years olds alive than 80yo smokers.
@@MrJleonp Did you think I was actually trying to say otherwise?
Hellva pace brother
@@Jaromous Thanks!
Physician chiming in here. It’s actually pretty interesting, there are some studies that have indicated that pulmonary complications like COPD are two factor diseases. One would need genetics and exposure to get COPD. To my knowledge, we haven’t yet found a link, but that’s a possible reason why some end up living without the adverse effects of long-term smoking, and others end up with debilitating disease. This is why many know someone within their friend circle or family who has smoked for many years and is relatively healthy.
Congrats on working toward quitting! Genuinely impressive!
People are forgetting the most important part about smoking… it makes you look coooooool 🚬😎
You had a typo there. It spells fool.
Not anymore. Smokers are becoming such a minority that smoking today makes you look trashy. It´s the type of people who go to the shop during their lunch and buy a Coke and Malboro. I doubt those folks have the rest of their lives figured out
@@gunnarkarlgunnarsson1463 Smoking looks elegant and luxurious
@@gunnarkarlgunnarsson1463 And yet somehow their lives are better than the sorry state you are in, trying to be morality police in internet comments.
As a smoker, it doesnt. It may impress below average people but intelligent people know that you are trading health for pleasure, and they wont be impressed.
8:58 camera man laughing =)))
Thanks for your public service take down of Gundry. I have always felt that he was a confidence man who preyed on the uninformed and desperate.
17:31 lmao great cutaway segment