My dad was so proud of himself when he got a 20.000 lumen light for €12 or so, while my 4000 lumen Acebeam had cost around €100. Made me look like an idiot at dinner for spending so much, then we went outside and you can guess what happened. I don't think the thing he got was even 200 lumens while I was fully lighting up a tree 100 metres away. To add insult to injury, I later found that exact the light on Aliexpress for €4. It was one of those lights you find under 100 different brand names and as many spelling errors in the advertisements, but they are all just clones of the same piece of trash made out of 100% chinesium.
This was a very good informative video ! I'm sick to death of all those fake flashlight commercials ! I USE My flashlight every day I work ! It keeps Me visable & illuminates what I need it to .
As some other have mentioned, there are good quality, inexpensive flashlights. Convoy S2+, S11, Sofirn SP32A or SP33v3. Some of them deliver way more than 2000lm for under 40 Dollar. They are perfectly suited for everyone, who just needs a flashlight, to have a flashlight. And if you you have a more special usecase, i strongly suggest, that you check forums like the Budgetlightforum and ask for suggestions. And while nitecore certainly is a good brand, they aren't perfect for anyone nor anything. And buying by brand is always stupid.
He has right when he is speaking about those flashlights from Aliexpress, 99% of them are crap,but there is another 1% where you can really buy cheap and good flashlight, I have some of them. Another part are batteries, for example Nitecore 3400 mah, about 20 usd, it is rewrapped unprotected Panasonic 18650B (3 usd), and protection board (0.50 usd), so they pump the price 5 times to the cell, greedy.
convoy and sofirn from aliexpress also is a cheap but high performance light. i have edc size convoy s2+ sst40 and it only $20 for more than 1000lumen and sofirn sp36 $40 for more than 5000lumen but the size is hefty not pocketable..
@@harisyoung4110 I have sofirn sp32A, excellent flashlight for 16 eur, small compact, with 1550 lumens, unprotected cell, also Crelant v6c, and few more
Nice vid. Thanks. However the ANSI standard is not the best representation for flashlights especially when it comes to runtime. It does not take into account how the output of the light actually behaves over the runtime. There should be runtime vs output graphs included with lights. Then you will be able to really tell how your lights including tactical lights behave over time. Some lights claim 1800 lumens and is only 1800 lumens for 1 min then drop down to 800 lumens for a 2hrs then drops down to 200 for 1 hour then to 180. ANSI standards would say 1800 lumens and runtime would be 3 hours. But the consumer believes they have an 1800 lumen flashlight for 3 hours which they do not. In reality they have an 1800 lumen light for 1 min. Companies should strive for better and provide real/truthful graphs.
Nitecore was the brand that got me into flashlights, my dad bought me a P12 about 6 years ago for my birthday and I've carried it nearly every day since. I have plenty more modern flashlights and gimmicky flashlights but I always end up with the old Nitecore for work because it's just so rugged and the patina is awesome 😎 I need to pick up a new Nitecore with a 21700 and a neutral white beam if there is such a thing
Before I know Nitecore, I bought a lot of stupid lights. I bought one the same as the fourth one shown in the video, which has four blue battery indicators near the button. They use xhp70.2 and can produce more than 1000lm when turned on. The problem of those lights is they dim after about 5 minutes, becoming less than 200lm. There is no circuit design or anything, and the light does not even get hot. They only use those simple MOSFETs to supply some current, and there is no heatsink for those chips .I guess it is because thoes chips get hot. Some of the fake lights may also have some thermal conductive silicone on those chips, but this "four blue battery indicators" does not. Another point to make is that those fake ones are big, heavy, and blocky. There is no mean to carry such a big chunk around. In addition, I also measured the capacity coming from those fake lights, they usually measure less than 600mAh, and the Nitecore charger indicates poor for them, as their internal resistence are >=0.5Ω.
I am actually very impressed by how hot those Nitecore lights, and some other good brand lights, get. Although I did not measure it, other TH-cam channels did. They reach more than 100℃. They manage to push the LEDs to their limit without crashing them. I mean I crashed many LEDs myself. It is hard to manage without specialized manufacture level design.
Sofirn and convoy are good brands. They have ties with the modding community. When you buy a convoy light, you notice right away how easy it is to take apart and mod. I personally own units from both brands. I even have nitecore. All of them perform well. Nitecore however does a pretty good job in almost all areas. Better beam and build quality.
Several years ago i bought a thorfire s70s claiming 3960 lumens for $60 and honestly im very happy with it especially for the price im not sure if the lumens claimed are correct but it holds its own against my comparable o light. Problem is my friend wants one and now we cant find them on Amazon or Ebay anymore.
My trusty Surefire C2 has never let me down but I thought I'd get something a little cheaper to run, I ordered an i4000r (NOT direct) but it didn't show up so bought a P20i incase the 4000 did ever show. I can say I have also bought a few other pretty damn good lights but overall the P20i is my go-to right now, the instant access to turbo & strobe is a winner for a start, who want's to cycle through modes or have to have the light on before being able to access turbo!? I want turbo when my eyesight picks up something I feel needs 'looking at', then I want INSTANT full power, the P20i does this better than any other light I own. It's not the brightest, or the longest thrower BUT if you wan a decent tactical light you can't do a lot better IMHO. --- As to the video above slating battery holders when they provide them with some of their own lights all-beit for CR123s & not AAAs and giving the reason being for a lack of 'voltage' is a little misleading, not enough current maybe. Also about time people trying to sell lights stop with the lumen blag & start providing better candela data when comparing lights, it's not all about brightness, we need/want to know about intensity. *I have an Acebeam L17 (TIR lens) & I'm impressed with the throw on that.
Man I totally agree with you, those aren't good flashlights, but I wanted to point out that the Wuben C3 is 1200 lumens, and it's $26.00 on Amazon. Wuben is a legitimate company, has been since 1981, it's type-c fast charging, comes with high quality 18650 and takes cr/rcr 123 batteries. Very similar to the Nitecore MH11 as far as simplicity and the tail switch are the same both also tailstand , just more of a flood beam and cheaper price. I own both.
14:50 i got the headlamp with 2x 18650 and have a proximity sensor mode that turns on the led . no brand . same cube box . enough brightness if got into accident at night . all other cars will notice and avoid further collision . bought it at live bidding at only sgd$4/- . no one was buying it , so initial bid never raise the price . totally worth it . 3 months later some poor driver hit my car and i record all videos and photos with the help of this head lamp . won my case . spent finished all compensation $$$ . 5 months later the T-junction had a change of traffic light signals . new RED ARROWS enforce drivers to stop behind stop lines . probably an accident prone area .
What do you recomend: I'm a field chef in Australia, I'm often in a camping/bush setting on my motorcycle. Due to my limited vehicle space (pretty much on my person and 1 bag) I need a 1 light does all for up close food prep/cooking (some time hands free, I usually have a vest or hat) and also bush scouting/deterrent for any animals wanting to kill us - haha. And In a rare occasions as a back up vehicals headlight for my bike (blew a globe in the bike at night once).
Find a convoy and sofirn brand if you need a cheap but high performance light.. dont buy any zoomable light, all zoomable light is crappy light.. sofirn sp33 is real 3000lumen for only $25-30, there lot of it review video on youtube.. and for edc size convoy s2+ sst40 you get it for only $18-20 and it gave more than 1000lumen.. those brand can beat the nitecore or even surefire performance.. lot of it review video in youtube.
@@awangemas9505 already owned a mt6.. still not my cup of tea when using it outdoor.. zoomable light will never spread evenly and even when fully zoomed the light spot it project not as intense compare to reflector and tir optic lens, probably at only around 70% overall light the led produce that is release to the front, the other 30% is waste inside the fl head and between the magnify lens.. That's why tactical light company such as surefire and modlite never make a zoomable light.. i feel not safe when walking and exploring places with that zoomable mt6, make me end up keep using highest mode to feel safer using that.. with reflector and tir optic flashlight, medium and low mode is enough for me to see any obstacle around.
@@awangemas9505 This is true; however, and I'm a Nitecore fan, all inexpensive lights aren't complete junk. I have a Sofirn SP35 I bought for $38, and my eyes can't distinguish any difference in performance between it and my P20i; they both use the SST40, a 21700 battery, and claim about the same throw. I believe the SP35 has a 363-yard throw compared to the P20i's 375; pretty darn close; that said, the SP35 doesn't have a tail switch, spring-mounted battery, stainless steel head, or ceramic glass breaking tips which make the Nitecore, by far the superior torch. Still, for the average Joe looking for something to use around the house, or maybe camping, the SP35 at $38 is a heck of a deal.
I've seen that T6 flashligh advertisement in Germany tv channel. The price was €56 for 2 flashlights in a package and a Germany technician carry it. OMG
I've had 2 genuine nitecore flashlights fail in the past month, Both have a 2 year guarantee,but its impossible to hear back from the company, rendering the guarantee worthless
Thank you for honest and educational video for the ppl. and future customers ! appreciated Nitecore ! cheers !!! and the end was FUNNNY !!! keep videos like this coming !!!
Spent many hours/days/¿weeks? on the business end of a soldering iron and who knows how much money to learn some of this stuff. Thanks for sharing, good info! Any advice on how to get good UV (360-400nm) LED diodes right now?
I bought a couple cheap ultra fire lights years ago, and those were what lead me to nitecore. Taking apart those 18650 batteries is hilarious, some sand and a tiny lipo cell! Been a fanboy ever since. Olight ant bad either. I purchase Jetbeam products for gifts a lot.
I just stumbled across this video and saw your post. I'll check out Nitecore... What about Thrunite? Do you know if they're good? I just ordered the Thrunite T2 3757 lumens but it hasn't arrived yet. I like that it recharges via usb-c. Your thoughts?
@@JimHassey Fenix makes very good flashlight too, Check them out too and compare the companies. Fenix also have a wizard to find flashlights acording to what you are looking after and its fast (takes less than a minute to complete) www.fenixlighting.com/product-wizard/
@@reahs4815 +1 I'm a Fenix fanboy too :) , I have had heaps of their lights with very few problems and only a couple I didn't like that much (e20, LD40). I have a 10 year old plus Fenix LD01 SS that is still working has been on my keys carried everywhere I go the entire time by far my longest lasting light :)
@@legallyfree2955 Cool I have a TK-22 and the HT-18 and I like em a lot, no problems yet after a little more than a year now of using the TK-22 at work constantly
@@mikesenior1333 I have had a couple of O Lights, maybe I got unlucky, but I did not have good luck with them. My Olight M23 Javelot was my carry light for 12 months, after the first 3 weeks I only had high mode it would not switch to lower modes but I didn't care because I only use max anyway but then after another few months it would randomly start changing modes if you bumped it so it got pushed back to a secondary light then after 12 it died completely and I threw it. The second Olight I owned was a keychain light (i3 I think was the model) I gave to my wife and it was dead within weeks and I got a refund.
good clip! you just saved me money. i was having doubts before watching this video on several advertised 100,000 lumens torch that looked too good to be true.
*Most practical, straightforward review I've ever watched.* Not a big flashlight person, just curious. But on principal *I'm subscribing to this dude. 👍*
i always check what led they are using osram or cree , and have a range of price that you think is fair. if its too good to be true then its probably fake. however there are oem flashlight that are really good
lol @ 10:33 i had some of those batteries and they were rubbish why? well i opened one *don't try that at home folks* because something inside was loose, and instead of a tightly packed battery, it was a 3rd of a 18650 lithium cell with a very low density , which had been badly spot welded ( the light would work intermitantly or badly flicker) and the - lead had broken free , plus it felt like it weighed the same as a feather (an out and out sign you have a fake) it also came with a 12 volt car charger who's parts consisted of two resistors and an led , one resistor was for the led and the other for the battery now anyone who knows about lithium cells knows they need to charge up to 4.20 volts, anything over that and you risk thermal runaway (maybe they thought they could get away with using such a low density cell so no-one would know)
Stuff like this is why you never want to buy flashlights on amazon. Not only do they not know what they're selling, but what you buy on amazon isn't always what they send you when it comes to stuff like this.
Great review mate well done, it goes to show how many scams are around and fake touches but how many people fall for these torches all because they don’t want to spend the money buying a decent touche , stay with a decent brand you can’t go wrong,
1000lm is relatively easy to reach, a single XML should, but usually the drivers in cheap flashlights are shit and underpower the LED alot Xanes lights on banggood are all underpowered, i bought a 2x XML T6 light from them and the power draw at max brightness was only 3.5W if the driver itself was better it would've been capable of the "1600Lumen" without an issue, i've verified the max power of the leds themselves and they definitely take 10W each for a long time and they're pretty bright aswell, so i'm sure they're legit ones (one good thing about it atleast) as they're only a bit less bright than my genuine Cree XP-L's
Great video! Every industry has fake crap with terrible quality, that's kinda "normal" nowadays. People just need to do a bit of informative research, if they're serious buyers. I just bought my first Nitecore the other day, the MH12S. What a fantastic little light that is.
Yeh that copper one looks pretty but it's not going to work like high grade aluminium to dissipate the heat, that's why they use aluminium quench plates in the Heat treatments of air-hardened tool steels, works the best : ) hmmm wonder how Ti or Magnesium works...
Not sure about the premium. 3 Nitecore lights failed on me in the past 18 months. I have since switched to another brand, 6 months in and so far so good.
@@Lee-lb9qh People are entitled to chose what they believe in. For example, some chose to believe that Covid is a not real thing. That nonetheless does not change my experience with Nitecore. Yes, 3 faulty Nitecore within 18 months.
Do not be deceived by the specs or the prices, the truth is at the reliable brand, you should Invest each dollar in the high quality items. But in case you want something for a short time, buy those cheap goods. camping and emergency equipment and important work, the original items are works great when you need it.
just need to buy a right brand if need a cheap light.. go with sofirn or convoy brand if want a cheap under $40 light.. it outperform a nitecore in term of brightness especially the sofirn sp33 model for only $30.. dont buy any no brand chinese zoomable light, all zoomable light is a crap.. go with reflector or tir lens light that sofirn and convoy sell for cheap.
Great content! I've always been too poor to own a Nitecore. Have always been curious on brightness comparison. Would be great to make a video to spot FAKE Nitecore.
At least some flashlights are honest they make no claims and you find them on supermarket shelves for less than 3 pounds batteries included in central core that contains 3 aaa batteries It seems to me that companies that market flashlights with wild claims are to used to selling on wish as in that market place you can claim anything about your product and get away with it and even weirder some people believing the claims
Can you tell me in the Nitecore lights which one do you recommend in lumens to blind an attacker? I believe it would need to be able to last a little longer in it's power.
Any zoomable light is crappy light.. find convoy or sofirn brand if you want the cheap high performance brand.. sofirn sp33 for only $30 and convoy s2+ sst40 for $20 and it can outperform $100 nitecore.
I remember those G200's and many similarly flashlights when they first came out. Many different brands with the same write up and pictures on their web pages. some of them didn't even change the model number when they copy and pasted to their website. Ridiculous! And that big ass battery that was so light.
@@NitecoreSG I just bought a Gear Light S1000 2Pac with carrying case for $14 shipped to my house. I don't think that's a bad price at all and they're pretty darn bright what do you think about them?
There are many good flashlights on Aliexpress if you know how to search and what to choose. :) They perfect for the average consumer. Also, I don't agree that the cartridge for 3 AAA batteries is a bad things. I have many powerful flashlights which use it. Led Lenser also uses it on many of theirs - you can't say that is a cheap or fake brand ;)
That depends on how you define ‘powerful’. How is 3xAaa better than a 18650 or 21700? The runtime of it is so poor. Especially if the light is bright, the battery capacity is too low for each AAA. Not practical at all to power high lumen lights
As it't very dark in Sweden during winter, if you want to take a long powerwalk after work it'll be pitch black outside, especially in the forest. I usually take a 10 km walk, last week I took my Led Lenser H7.2 (3XAAA). I thought it was quite all right. First 10 km evening walk, didn't use full power but almost, warning for low battery started at 9.5 km. I had already decided to get a Nitecore headlamp before that, as the Led Lenser didn't have either as bright or as good beam as I wanted. I did have my brand new Nitecore New P30 with me. Ended up ordering a HC60 headlamp and a MH10S . Tactical (with rear power button) isn't too practical walking, prefer a side switch instead. Super happy with my New P30 !!!
Led lenser are crap now. I had lots of them, the early ones that were made in Germany were good. But since leathman took over the quality has dropped significantly. I've switched to Olight and the difference is hugh, like night and day.
I'm not really against 3xAAA cartridge and I use them just for the sake of not getting my AAAs wasted since i have a lot of them. They're really not that good in powering my flashlights as 21700 or 18650 does. On my experience, one cartridge could last me an hour but if I used my 21700, it lasted me more than 5 hours. If you want to continue using AA or AAA lights however, it's best to stick to dedicated single or double cell lights. They would last longer and perform better because they're designed for those batteries.
You can build a Convoy S2+ with an XHP50.2 led and produces 2500~ lumen's for $20.... saying a 2000 lumen flashlight for $30 doesn't exist is a bold faced lie... You keep going on about ANSI ratings but the NITECORE-MH12S doesn't even reach 1800 lumen by ANSI standards I have one and measured it in a Lumen tube with a calibrated sensor and at ANSI standards which is measured 30 seconds after turn on with a fresh cell the NITECORE-MH12S only measured 1400~ lumens..... I've built a Convoy S2+ with the same SST-40 LED and it measures over 1500 lumens by ANSI standards for less than $15 USD...
If you ask me, I’d stick to proven brands to save you future headaches like warranty and reliability. You should also look at distributors for local support. You don’t want to buy a random brand and it arrives dead and you have to one to go to.
Nitecore is great. I love my Nitecores. But their flashlights drains batteries when not in use. Not good for safety emergency use. I have reprogrammed mines to solve the issue though.
I got fooled once and after that I did my research and I must say those branded flashlights including nitecore are far far more better than these cheapo flashlights and that 9:36 is the worst, a burning candle is much more better than that lmao
Nitecore products now available at Lazada and Shopee Philippines, wayback 2015 and 2017 Nitecore products only available at Tactical Asia local online seller.
Well...Im Indonesian got into the light was when my beat friend give me Fe#$_ brand as my first flash light. After several years i become the torch anthusiast. Then i see Nitecore brand. And after that i become loyal nitecore brand. Start collecting some nitecore flash, from EAX, TM06, P12, TIP2, SENS AA, etc. Been collecting when i come to singapore. In these condition its very hard. I wish this situation will be ober soon. PS. May i know where ur shop located at. Usually i just go yo caraousel to get and check if anyone aelling the flashlight. After seeing ur vid im positive that ill find my next treasure there🥰😁
Its a very good light. Im owning a SRT3 and SRT7 and both are awesome. Nowadays i see them only as relics of a better time in my vitrine because they are overhauled already, sadly.
@@harrison00xXx I have the SRT7GT but I want the Revenger for the tri RGB LEDs, just feels more fancy and you don't see that in many models that have decent output power.
That one wasn't meant to blind someone it was meant to make them laugh so hard they are incapable of attacking.
It's a handheld disco light
....laugh so hard a fart escaped
@@titaniumsteel9114 I farted so hard a laugh escaped..
NEVER TRUST A FART.......NEVER!!!!👍
My dad was so proud of himself when he got a 20.000 lumen light for €12 or so, while my 4000 lumen Acebeam had cost around €100. Made me look like an idiot at dinner for spending so much, then we went outside and you can guess what happened. I don't think the thing he got was even 200 lumens while I was fully lighting up a tree 100 metres away. To add insult to injury, I later found that exact the light on Aliexpress for €4. It was one of those lights you find under 100 different brand names and as many spelling errors in the advertisements, but they are all just clones of the same piece of trash made out of 100% chinesium.
Yes be wary of these ridiculous claims
CHINA
hahaha "step outside, dad. we'll settle this quickly" - lights out.
"omg, look at the crosshair" 🤣🤣
This was a very good informative video ! I'm
sick to death of all those fake flashlight commercials !
I USE My flashlight every day I work ! It keeps Me visable & illuminates what I need it to .
As some other have mentioned, there are good quality, inexpensive flashlights. Convoy S2+, S11, Sofirn SP32A or SP33v3. Some of them deliver way more than 2000lm for under 40 Dollar. They are perfectly suited for everyone, who just needs a flashlight, to have a flashlight. And if you you have a more special usecase, i strongly suggest, that you check forums like the Budgetlightforum and ask for suggestions. And while nitecore certainly is a good brand, they aren't perfect for anyone nor anything. And buying by brand is always stupid.
I love my sofirn sc31 pro. At under $40 with shipping it’s the absolute best light for the money I’ve found
He has right when he is speaking about those flashlights from Aliexpress, 99% of them are crap,but there is another 1% where you can really buy cheap and good flashlight, I have some of them. Another part are batteries, for example Nitecore 3400 mah, about 20 usd, it is rewrapped unprotected Panasonic 18650B (3 usd), and protection board (0.50 usd), so they pump the price 5 times to the cell, greedy.
convoy and sofirn from aliexpress also is a cheap but high performance light. i have edc size convoy s2+ sst40 and it only $20 for more than 1000lumen and sofirn sp36 $40 for more than 5000lumen but the size is hefty not pocketable..
@@harisyoung4110 I have sofirn sp32A, excellent flashlight for 16 eur, small compact, with 1550 lumens, unprotected cell, also Crelant v6c, and few more
All 100%FACTS!👍👍👍👍👍👍
Nice vid. Thanks. However the ANSI standard is not the best representation for flashlights especially when it comes to runtime. It does not take into account how the output of the light actually behaves over the runtime. There should be runtime vs output graphs included with lights. Then you will be able to really tell how your lights including tactical lights behave over time. Some lights claim 1800 lumens and is only 1800 lumens for 1 min then drop down to 800 lumens for a 2hrs then drops down to 200 for 1 hour then to 180. ANSI standards would say 1800 lumens and runtime would be 3 hours. But the consumer believes they have an 1800 lumen flashlight for 3 hours which they do not. In reality they have an 1800 lumen light for 1 min. Companies should strive for better and provide real/truthful graphs.
Nitecore was the brand that got me into flashlights, my dad bought me a P12 about 6 years ago for my birthday and I've carried it nearly every day since. I have plenty more modern flashlights and gimmicky flashlights but I always end up with the old Nitecore for work because it's just so rugged and the patina is awesome 😎 I need to pick up a new Nitecore with a 21700 and a neutral white beam if there is such a thing
Before I know Nitecore, I bought a lot of stupid lights. I bought one the same as the fourth one shown in the video, which has four blue battery indicators near the button. They use xhp70.2 and can produce more than 1000lm when turned on. The problem of those lights is they dim after about 5 minutes, becoming less than 200lm. There is no circuit design or anything, and the light does not even get hot. They only use those simple MOSFETs to supply some current, and there is no heatsink for those chips .I guess it is because thoes chips get hot. Some of the fake lights may also have some thermal conductive silicone on those chips, but this "four blue battery indicators" does not. Another point to make is that those fake ones are big, heavy, and blocky. There is no mean to carry such a big chunk around. In addition, I also measured the capacity coming from those fake lights, they usually measure less than 600mAh, and the Nitecore charger indicates poor for them, as their internal resistence are >=0.5Ω.
I am actually very impressed by how hot those Nitecore lights, and some other good brand lights, get. Although I did not measure it, other TH-cam channels did. They reach more than 100℃. They manage to push the LEDs to their limit without crashing them. I mean I crashed many LEDs myself. It is hard to manage without specialized manufacture level design.
What about flashlight brands like Sofirn and Convoy?
He afraid comparing it with those, im sure sofirn and convoy will outperform them especially a sofirn sp33 model..
Sofirn and convoy are good brands. They have ties with the modding community. When you buy a convoy light, you notice right away how easy it is to take apart and mod. I personally own units from both brands. I even have nitecore. All of them perform well. Nitecore however does a pretty good job in almost all areas. Better beam and build quality.
Several years ago i bought a thorfire s70s claiming 3960 lumens for $60 and honestly im very happy with it especially for the price im not sure if the lumens claimed are correct but it holds its own against my comparable o light. Problem is my friend wants one and now we cant find them on Amazon or Ebay anymore.
Owned Klarus Xt11 for years. Time to switch to Nitecore. Awaiting the shipment of P20i🔦 🚨🚒🚑
My trusty Surefire C2 has never let me down but I thought I'd get something a little cheaper to run, I ordered an i4000r (NOT direct) but it didn't show up so bought a P20i incase the 4000 did ever show. I can say I have also bought a few other pretty damn good lights but overall the P20i is my go-to right now, the instant access to turbo & strobe is a winner for a start, who want's to cycle through modes or have to have the light on before being able to access turbo!? I want turbo when my eyesight picks up something I feel needs 'looking at', then I want INSTANT full power, the P20i does this better than any other light I own. It's not the brightest, or the longest thrower BUT if you wan a decent tactical light you can't do a lot better IMHO. --- As to the video above slating battery holders when they provide them with some of their own lights all-beit for CR123s & not AAAs and giving the reason being for a lack of 'voltage' is a little misleading, not enough current maybe. Also about time people trying to sell lights stop with the lumen blag & start providing better candela data when comparing lights, it's not all about brightness, we need/want to know about intensity. *I have an Acebeam L17 (TIR lens) & I'm impressed with the throw on that.
Man I totally agree with you, those aren't good flashlights, but I wanted to point out that the Wuben C3 is 1200 lumens, and it's $26.00 on Amazon. Wuben is a legitimate company, has been since 1981, it's type-c fast charging, comes with high quality 18650 and takes cr/rcr 123 batteries. Very similar to the Nitecore MH11 as far as simplicity and the tail switch are the same both also tailstand , just more of a flood beam and cheaper price. I own both.
The fw3a is $40 and is 2800 lumen though. Even the $45 Emisar D4V2 can go up to 4500 Lumen
This is Nitecore channel we don't talk about that here
@@CheezusHGrist that's pretty backwards
14:50 i got the headlamp with 2x 18650 and have a proximity sensor mode that turns on the led . no brand . same cube box .
enough brightness if got into accident at night . all other cars will notice and avoid further collision .
bought it at live bidding at only sgd$4/- . no one was buying it , so initial bid never raise the price . totally worth it . 3 months later some poor driver hit my car and i record all videos and photos with the help of this head lamp . won my case . spent finished all compensation $$$ . 5 months later the T-junction had a change of traffic light signals . new RED ARROWS enforce drivers to stop behind stop lines . probably an accident prone area .
Wrap a strip of bacon on a 100k lumens flashlight, turn on and cook it.
What do you recomend: I'm a field chef in Australia, I'm often in a camping/bush setting on my motorcycle. Due to my limited vehicle space (pretty much on my person and 1 bag) I need a 1 light does all for up close food prep/cooking (some time hands free, I usually have a vest or hat) and also bush scouting/deterrent for any animals wanting to kill us - haha. And In a rare occasions as a back up vehicals headlight for my bike (blew a globe in the bike at night once).
imalent ms18 😂
9:11 triple battery voltage is higher but current is vary low
Just a lot of misinformed consumers. Thanks for the info dude. 👍🏽
Find a convoy and sofirn brand if you need a cheap but high performance light.. dont buy any zoomable light, all zoomable light is crappy light.. sofirn sp33 is real 3000lumen for only $25-30, there lot of it review video on youtube.. and for edc size convoy s2+ sst40 you get it for only $18-20 and it gave more than 1000lumen.. those brand can beat the nitecore or even surefire performance.. lot of it review video in youtube.
@@harisyoung4110 all zoomable are crappy ? Try LEDLENSER dude 🤦🏾♂️
@@awangemas9505 already owned a mt6.. still not my cup of tea when using it outdoor.. zoomable light will never spread evenly and even when fully zoomed the light spot it project not as intense compare to reflector and tir optic lens, probably at only around 70% overall light the led produce that is release to the front, the other 30% is waste inside the fl head and between the magnify lens.. That's why tactical light company such as surefire and modlite never make a zoomable light.. i feel not safe when walking and exploring places with that zoomable mt6, make me end up keep using highest mode to feel safer using that.. with reflector and tir optic flashlight, medium and low mode is enough for me to see any obstacle around.
@@awangemas9505
This is true; however, and I'm a Nitecore fan, all inexpensive lights aren't complete junk.
I have a Sofirn SP35 I bought for $38, and my eyes can't distinguish any difference in performance between it and my P20i; they both use the SST40, a 21700 battery, and claim about the same throw.
I believe the SP35 has a 363-yard throw compared to the P20i's 375; pretty darn close; that said, the SP35 doesn't have a tail switch, spring-mounted battery, stainless steel head, or ceramic glass breaking tips which make the Nitecore, by far the superior torch.
Still, for the average Joe looking for something to use around the house, or maybe camping, the SP35 at $38 is a heck of a deal.
@@awangemas9505 zoomable lights suck dude, even if it's well made it over complicates things, having a good fixed beam is the way to go
Best flashlight Reviews I've come across. Awesome. I subscribed.
I've seen that T6 flashligh advertisement in Germany tv channel. The price was €56 for 2 flashlights in a package and a Germany technician carry it. OMG
Bro is tired of all that fake lumens rating. 😆
These people should be held accountable for thier false claims.
I've had 2 genuine nitecore flashlights fail in the past month,
Both have a 2 year guarantee,but its impossible to hear back from the company, rendering the guarantee worthless
Where did you buy it from? You have to go back to the correct distributor.
Amazon UK, the Nitecore Shop,tried contacting them to no avail
Get yourself an olight next time. They are a cracking light. 5 year warranty
@@wesleyseymour8857 the nitecore's are guaranteed
The guarantee is no good if they make it too difficult to honour
@@db333-m6n yeah can't argue with that. All I can tell yeah is I've had both my olights for 4 years an they still work perfectly.
Was that four-core light you showed a P50 LED chip or a P70 chip?
Thank you for honest and educational video for the ppl. and future customers ! appreciated Nitecore ! cheers !!! and the end was FUNNNY !!! keep videos like this coming !!!
Spent many hours/days/¿weeks? on the business end of a soldering iron and who knows how much money to learn some of this stuff. Thanks for sharing, good info!
Any advice on how to get good UV (360-400nm) LED diodes right now?
So does sofirn considered as 'flagship' flashlight?
the rubber is there so you can put in 21700s aswell as 18650s
Amazing video. Straight to the point. I want a Nitecore now
I bought a couple cheap ultra fire lights years ago, and those were what lead me to nitecore. Taking apart those 18650 batteries is hilarious, some sand and a tiny lipo cell! Been a fanboy ever since. Olight ant bad either. I purchase Jetbeam products for gifts a lot.
I’ve owned tons of flashlights, Nitecore is the best hands down! I love ❤️ my nitecore lights. I couldn’t live without them.
I just stumbled across this video and saw your post. I'll check out Nitecore... What about Thrunite? Do you know if they're good? I just ordered the Thrunite T2 3757 lumens but it hasn't arrived yet. I like that it recharges via usb-c. Your thoughts?
@@JimHassey Fenix makes very good flashlight too, Check them out too and compare the companies.
Fenix also have a wizard to find flashlights acording to what you are looking after and its fast (takes less than a minute to complete) www.fenixlighting.com/product-wizard/
@@reahs4815 +1 I'm a Fenix fanboy too :) , I have had heaps of their lights with very few problems and only a couple I didn't like that much (e20, LD40). I have a 10 year old plus Fenix LD01 SS that is still working has been on my keys carried everywhere I go the entire time by far my longest lasting light :)
@@legallyfree2955 Cool I have a TK-22 and the HT-18 and I like em a lot, no problems yet after a little more than a year now of using the TK-22 at work constantly
@@mikesenior1333 I have had a couple of O Lights, maybe I got unlucky, but I did not have good luck with them. My Olight M23 Javelot was my carry light for 12 months, after the first 3 weeks I only had high mode it would not switch to lower modes but I didn't care because I only use max anyway but then after another few months it would randomly start changing modes if you bumped it so it got pushed back to a secondary light then after 12 it died completely and I threw it. The second Olight I owned was a keychain light (i3 I think was the model) I gave to my wife and it was dead within weeks and I got a refund.
I have a atactical A1s. What are your thoughts on it?
good clip! you just saved me money. i was having doubts before watching this video on several advertised 100,000 lumens torch that looked too good to be true.
What happen to MT series such as MT10A, MT20C, etc? I really like those series. White led and red led with various mode in a pocket size.
*Most practical, straightforward review I've ever watched.*
Not a big flashlight person, just curious. But on principal *I'm subscribing to this dude. 👍*
So what is Imalent? Is it an enterprise?
thank you . nice review. i have seen those OEM flashlights advertised lols
i always check what led they are using osram or cree , and have a range of price that you think is fair. if its too good to be true then its probably fake. however there are oem flashlight that are really good
The cross hair just made me laugh out of my chair 😂🤣
Excellent. Very educational and you helped me a LOT! Thank you for making this video! I truly appreciate it!
7:30 there something they called half press... or tap to change mode hahahaha
lol @ 10:33 i had some of those batteries and they were rubbish
why?
well i opened one *don't try that at home folks* because something inside was loose, and instead of a tightly packed battery, it was a 3rd of a 18650 lithium cell with a very low density , which had been badly spot welded ( the light would work intermitantly or badly flicker) and the - lead had broken free , plus it felt like it weighed the same as a feather (an out and out sign you have a fake)
it also came with a 12 volt car charger who's parts consisted of two resistors and an led , one resistor was for the led and the other for the battery
now anyone who knows about lithium cells knows they need to charge up to 4.20 volts, anything over that and you risk thermal runaway (maybe they thought they could get away with using such a low density cell so no-one would know)
when will the powerbanks be available to ship internationally?
Stuff like this is why you never want to buy flashlights on amazon. Not only do they not know what they're selling, but what you buy on amazon isn't always what they send you when it comes to stuff like this.
You can buy Zebralight on amazon
Keep up the good work. Nice review.
I was planning on getting the MH 12s but shipping for that was over $100 I really think the other is a good deal besides the shipping
Ok shipping fixed! The rates were crazy the last 2 weeks. Something was wrong on the setup. It’s back to normal now
what was the torch u were using as an example?
MH12S and MT2A
@@NitecoreSG thank you and good videos i think i just binged watched about 30 of them yesterday
Can't wait for my MH12 V2 to come...
Great review mate well done, it goes to show how many scams are around and fake touches but how many people fall for these torches all because they don’t want to spend the money buying a decent touche , stay with a decent brand you can’t go wrong,
Great video like how you went into depth about Manufacturing distributing
1000lm is relatively easy to reach, a single XML should, but usually the drivers in cheap flashlights are shit and underpower the LED alot
Xanes lights on banggood are all underpowered, i bought a 2x XML T6 light from them and the power draw at max brightness was only 3.5W
if the driver itself was better it would've been capable of the "1600Lumen" without an issue, i've verified the max power of the leds themselves and they definitely take 10W each for a long time and they're pretty bright aswell, so i'm sure they're legit ones (one good thing about it atleast) as they're only a bit less bright than my genuine Cree XP-L's
Might pick up a nitecore. Streamlight and olight have been getting my money lately.
Hi,can u make comparison sofirn and imalent flashlight .
Thanks for the information on the scammers u have really good content please keep it up I am now a subscriber 👍
Great video! Every industry has fake crap with terrible quality, that's kinda "normal" nowadays. People just need to do a bit of informative research, if they're serious buyers.
I just bought my first Nitecore the other day, the MH12S. What a fantastic little light that is.
A bit? Unfortunately people need to do quite a lot of research
Yeh that copper one looks pretty but it's not going to work like high grade aluminium to dissipate the heat, that's why they use aluminium quench plates in the Heat treatments of air-hardened tool steels, works the best : ) hmmm wonder how Ti or Magnesium works...
Not sure about the premium. 3 Nitecore lights failed on me in the past 18 months. I have since switched to another brand, 6 months in and so far so good.
What were the models that failed on you?
3 nitecores in 18 months? I don't believe that.
@@Lee-lb9qh Then don’t.
Ok
@@Lee-lb9qh People are entitled to chose what they believe in. For example, some chose to believe that Covid is a not real thing. That nonetheless does not change my experience with Nitecore. Yes, 3 faulty Nitecore within 18 months.
Do not be deceived by the specs or the prices, the truth is at the reliable brand, you should Invest each dollar in the high quality items. But in case you want something for a short time, buy those cheap goods.
camping and emergency equipment and important work, the original items are works great when you need it.
just need to buy a right brand if need a cheap light.. go with sofirn or convoy brand if want a cheap under $40 light.. it outperform a nitecore in term of brightness especially the sofirn sp33 model for only $30.. dont buy any no brand chinese zoomable light, all zoomable light is a crap.. go with reflector or tir lens light that sofirn and convoy sell for cheap.
@@harisyoung4110 👍 thank
you remind me of rayner teo . you guys have a very similar way of speaking. love it
Great content! I've always been too poor to own a Nitecore. Have always been curious on brightness comparison. Would be great to make a video to spot FAKE Nitecore.
Good lookout videos MJ👍
Uncle Roger of flashlights.
👏👏👏
while on the topic, are there any fake Nitecore's out there? clones?
At least some flashlights are honest they make no claims and you find them on supermarket shelves for less than 3 pounds batteries included in central core that contains 3 aaa batteries
It seems to me that companies that market flashlights with wild claims are to used to selling on wish as in that market place you can claim anything about your product and get away with it and even weirder some people believing the claims
So is EL2102 Rear Bike Light a nitecore product or OEM?
It’s OEM
Lol great channel love all your information
I like nitecore lights. I got my original P12 just quit working, how can I get a repair? It's about 5-7 years old.
Warranty is 5 years, so yours should be out of warranty. Time to get a big upgrade. The MH12S is an awesome replacement
You could dissemble it and solder but that's risky territory and you'll need to learn a lot of about them.
Can you tell me in the Nitecore lights which one do you recommend in lumens to blind an attacker? I believe it would need to be able to last a little longer in it's power.
Check out p10 v2
Emisar d4v2
You can blind an attacker with deez nutzzz carolyn baskins.
Thank you so much I love your videos.
I collect really bright flashlights
Any flashlight recommendation that use 21700 battery?
Acebeam L30 Gen II - 4000 lumens, 373m
Acebeam L19, 1600 lumens, 1301m
Nitecore P10iX or P20ix.
@@peterco3018 it's been a year but I appreciate the reply
What happen to those china lights now?
Any zoomable light is crappy light.. find convoy or sofirn brand if you want the cheap high performance brand.. sofirn sp33 for only $30 and convoy s2+ sst40 for $20 and it can outperform $100 nitecore.
I remember those G200's and many similarly flashlights when they first came out. Many different brands with the same write up and pictures on their web pages. some of them didn't even change the model number when they copy and pasted to their website. Ridiculous! And that big ass battery that was so light.
Exactly. It was the biggest flashlight scam in history
@@NitecoreSG I just bought a Gear Light S1000 2Pac with carrying case for $14 shipped to my house. I don't think that's a bad price at all and they're pretty darn bright what do you think about them?
There are many good flashlights on Aliexpress if you know how to search and what to choose. :) They perfect for the average consumer. Also, I don't agree that the cartridge for 3 AAA batteries is a bad things. I have many powerful flashlights which use it. Led Lenser also uses it on many of theirs - you can't say that is a cheap or fake brand ;)
That depends on how you define ‘powerful’. How is 3xAaa better than a 18650 or 21700? The runtime of it is so poor. Especially if the light is bright, the battery capacity is too low for each AAA. Not practical at all to power high lumen lights
As it't very dark in Sweden during winter, if you want to take a long powerwalk after work it'll be pitch black outside, especially in the forest.
I usually take a 10 km walk, last week I took my Led Lenser H7.2 (3XAAA). I thought it was quite all right. First 10 km evening walk, didn't use full power but almost, warning for low battery started at 9.5 km.
I had already decided to get a Nitecore headlamp before that, as the Led Lenser didn't have either as bright or as good beam as I wanted. I did have my brand new Nitecore New P30 with me.
Ended up ordering a HC60 headlamp and a MH10S . Tactical (with rear power button) isn't too practical walking, prefer a side switch instead.
Super happy with my New P30 !!!
Ya bro those triple a lights are crap
Led lenser are crap now. I had lots of them, the early ones that were made in Germany were good. But since leathman took over the quality has dropped significantly. I've switched to Olight and the difference is hugh, like night and day.
I'm not really against 3xAAA cartridge and I use them just for the sake of not getting my AAAs wasted since i have a lot of them. They're really not that good in powering my flashlights as 21700 or 18650 does. On my experience, one cartridge could last me an hour but if I used my 21700, it lasted me more than 5 hours. If you want to continue using AA or AAA lights however, it's best to stick to dedicated single or double cell lights. They would last longer and perform better because they're designed for those batteries.
You can never trust someone comparing/reviewing products against a product thet sale.
You can build a Convoy S2+ with an XHP50.2 led and produces 2500~ lumen's for $20.... saying a 2000 lumen flashlight for $30 doesn't exist is a bold faced lie... You keep going on about ANSI ratings but the NITECORE-MH12S doesn't even reach 1800 lumen by ANSI standards I have one and measured it in a Lumen tube with a calibrated sensor and at ANSI standards which is measured 30 seconds after turn on with a fresh cell the NITECORE-MH12S only measured 1400~ lumens..... I've built a Convoy S2+ with the same SST-40 LED and it measures over 1500 lumens by ANSI standards for less than $15 USD...
Hey I just came across astrolux flashlights it is worth buying.
If you ask me, I’d stick to proven brands to save you future headaches like warranty and reliability. You should also look at distributors for local support. You don’t want to buy a random brand and it arrives dead and you have to one to go to.
@@NitecoreSG Thanks a lot for the info.
Only bought olight products but damn nite has some nice lights to!!!
Nitecore is great. I love my Nitecores. But their flashlights drains batteries when not in use. Not good for safety emergency use. I have reprogrammed mines to solve the issue though.
Did you just say "fleshlight" hahaha
Can you do some Fenix mini lights ?
Do you have any idea where can I get led lenser products?
He's only for nitecore bro. I'm not sure about the new led lenser models but fenix is also a very good brand.
Thise torches cost around 2 to 5 dollar in india. Mostly from china, i brought fenix for 25 dollar from Amazon way better then those fake lights.
I have wanted to get a nitecore but so far have emisars, astrolux, and soon a lumintop.
I have an 1000lm torch it’s really bright and it cost $£13 and it tells you the led type it’s a cree xm-l2 with a fresnel lens for zoom
Should take them apart and see how cheap the components are
I learnt a lot from this video, thanks man
What if the package of Nitecore Flashlights is in Chinese language? Is it legit?
Nitecore should made more flood led headlamp... 😅
Have you tried the HC35, HC33, NU35, NU17? those are all flood
Nitecore FTW! 🤝🏼💪🏽
i still love Nitecore products.. specially the tiki variants
I recently purchased an Astrolux FT03 for $36 which is actually brighter and less buggy than my Nitecore TM03.
JUST SAYING
The last head mount tri flashlight, i bought it for $20 from amazon in INDIA. Yes, you heard it right. $20.
very Nice My Friend 👍🖤
I got fooled once and after that I did my research and I must say those branded flashlights including nitecore are far far more better than these cheapo flashlights and that 9:36 is the worst, a burning candle is much more better than that lmao
thank for the info bro👍👍👍💯💯💯 from the Philippines..is there any Nightcore shops here in the Philippines? particular in Mindanao?
Nitecore products now available at Lazada and Shopee Philippines, wayback 2015 and 2017 Nitecore products only available at Tactical Asia local online seller.
How to tell apart real or fake nitecore flashlights?
Easiest way is where you buy it from and if the box has Chinese words on it
@@NitecoreSG so if it has Chinese words in it it means it’s fake?
Well...Im Indonesian got into the light was when my beat friend give me Fe#$_ brand as my first flash light. After several years i become the torch anthusiast. Then i see Nitecore brand. And after that i become loyal nitecore brand. Start collecting some nitecore flash, from EAX, TM06, P12, TIP2, SENS AA, etc. Been collecting when i come to singapore. In these condition its very hard. I wish this situation will be ober soon.
PS. May i know where ur shop located at. Usually i just go yo caraousel to get and check if anyone aelling the flashlight. After seeing ur vid im positive that ill find my next treasure there🥰😁
You can get your lights here - www.nitecorelights.com
@@NitecoreSG prefer to go to shop rather than online😁
@@NitecoreSG Do u guy do repair? I think some of my nitecore needs to be repaired. Been years already😅
Dang it.. never had one before, now thinking bout it..
Can I please buy that SRT7?? Pleeease! It's all I'm missing in my SRT collection 😭😭😭
I need to find a Revenger!!!
Its a very good light.
Im owning a SRT3 and SRT7 and both are awesome. Nowadays i see them only as relics of a better time in my vitrine because they are overhauled already, sadly.
@@harrison00xXx I have the SRT7GT but I want the Revenger for the tri RGB LEDs, just feels more fancy and you don't see that in many models that have decent output power.
Nitecore: 100k lumens?Hell no its definitely fake.
Imalent MS12: Hold my LUMENS. 😂
ppl always ask why buy 100-200sgd torch until they compare haha