As you may have noticed, I've now changed the release time to 5pm rather than 12 noon (UK times). I do hope that this hasn’t inconvenienced you. Regards Charlie
11 pm (NZ time) came and went with no Charlie video so I drifted off unfulfilled with your humour and wisdom and know how.....I now know my fix will be there first thing Saturday morning. I am struggling to find the words to describe your dedication and enthusiasm to produce with such regularity your videos. You have my thanks and appreciation for what you do.
Greetings from the most remote city on the planet; Perth, Australia. I too will be retiring at Easter time and embarking on my model railroad journey. Of all the tutorials available to me on TH-cam, I find The Chadwick Model Railway authored by Charlie to be the most informative, easiest to understand (mostly) and often most entertaining of them all. I will be taking great note of all the information Charlie has to offer when I commence my build. Thank you and I look forward to many more informational and entertaining videos.
Another interesting video. My only thought is that the positioning of the two buildings parallel to the walls of the room tends to strongly link the scene to the room and so unnecessary make it look more model like than it needs to. Having the buildings at slightly different angles might reduce this effect. The main point of the video that mock ups allow one to get a better idea of what a layout will look like than just track plans and one’s imagination is well made.
@@ChadwickModelRailway Great video. Agree with Andrew, it's important to hide the room corner not emphasize it. Moving the lines of the buildings around can enable clearer perspectives. A further thought, allowing the upper surface to fall away slightly towards the backscene can avoid those awkward baseboard/backscene meetings.
Charlie, great video. One of the recommended things to do with Woodland Scenic inclines and risers before attaching roadbed is to use a paper masking tape to lay across the top of those. Modelers have done that and claim that it has lasted for years. I have done it myself and the thin paper masking tape will not introduce any bumps into your incline. The tape keeps ballast from falling between the gaps and gives you more surface area to glue your roadbed to on the inclines.
Charlie My thoughts are that the upper level looks too tall in relation to the main track area. You have built up from the main track board but the higher level would have been in place first and presumably the main area would have been excavated to get the tracks through so you wouldn’t have excavated more than you need to. There is such a tall wall next to the main track with a large gap underneath the bridge without any sensible reason if that makes sense. I would suggest the proportions would look better if it was say 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inches too high. With regards to the level crossing you could cut out a section of the foam risers and span over the gap with a section of plywood with the operating mechanism mounted underneath if that makes sense. I have an express models level crossing which has motorised barriers lights and sirens all mounted underneath a removable top section. Hope that gives you some food for thought.
Charlie you could also have the bridge sloping down slightly assuming the off scene road level was lower also the cars nearest to the front would need less clearance
"I need to build from the back forwards" If only I had thought of that....! Ah well, its all a learning curve! I purchased one of those cutting pens, it burned out quite quickly, but that was probably a case of tool abuse on my part. The only thing I would add, is that the fumes from cutting polystyrene in this way are extremely toxic and noxious. I resorted to wearing a mask and/or cutting outside. It really is pungent, as you mentioned. Another great video Charlie. All the best, Nige
Hello from Christchurch New Zealand, I have one of these cutters to that failed, so I unscrewed the brass nut and the outer tube fell off and I found that the element circuit uses the tube to complete the circuit And this was broken so I measured how far into tube it went reassembled and squashed the end of the tube on to the element. Hey presto it lives again! Hope this helps!
Great video Charlie and glad you got to visit South Devon Railway. It's a beautiful area and the route to Totnes alongside the River Dart takes some beating!
Charlie, re-the industrial corner. Why not have a disused siding in front of one of the warehouses with the track inset into the roadway? Just a thought.
great episode this week, may have an idea for you, you could have a none functioning point and a small section of track going into that industrial area, then put a fence and gate across it as if it used to be used but isnt any more.
I like the way you go about figuring things out and present them. Just a good rule to find out if the grad is to steep is to stop the train on the gread a see if it starts moves from there, if not you are to steep is my feelings. Great video Charlie....thanks for sharing 😉
My 2 cents worth on the corner Charlie. Less is more IMHO, far too much going on there. A bridge, level crossing, retaining wall, road to station, 4 track main line, it seems as though you're trying to cram too much in. I would imagine there is a prototype somewhere, but a level crossing immediately after a bridge doesn't seem to sit right, an access road to the right of the warehouses at back wall would look a bit more convincing for me. Ultimately if these are your must haves then go for it, it's your train set and rule 1 applies! Also, instead of attempting to asphyxiate yourself with the hot sword, you could have made a neater job of the incline by clamping 2 bits of wood either side and using a Japanese style negative rake pull saw to make the cut. Keep up the good work. Mike.
Woodland scenics recommend filling the gaps in that flexi-polystyrene stuff with that guey plaster of Paris chewed up toilet roll stuff. Oh dear, have I let the cat out the bag.. apart from PVA and cat litter.. I know Jenny Kiel’s trick with Impregnated Jayes cloth and PVA.. using bog roll and PVA has come in handy in the past. Like Mod-rock (Jarvis of Stockport) but different
Had another thought about Devon scenics. I know I’m a bit of a 009 freak, but have you ever seen ‘County gate’ ? John and I used to natter on occasion on new railway modellers forum.. Look his thingy up on TH-cam. Some interesting ideas, scenics-wise that may be useful..🚂🚂😉
Hì Charlie ... regarding level crossing barriers and lights you could make one up using SG90 servos and flashing LEDs ... have a look on TH-cam as there are a few builds using Arduino... ooops hope thats not to technical but its easy ...
Hi Charlie. Loving the work. Crossing gates.. look up Megapoints, and their servo system. Used for Points and signals, but watch the how-to video. Attaching them directly to the pivot of a crossing gate works the same as signals. Alternatively, barriers, with them underneath, with a bit of piano-wire of about 0.8 mil dia, should work. Had a thought about that bridge. How about the road bridge at the top of Crewe station throat? All a bit girder and concrete but does the whole span in One, so you get views underneath. I must get back to airbrushing 009 rolling stock now. All main station buildings fitted with LED lighting and interiors! Lots of little people painted with the thin end of a cocktail stick. All 200 of them🙃🚂K.
Blindingly obvious.. I forgot this.. Inspiration for you, since I live here.. Look up Old pictures of Macclesfield. Also known as silk town, an old mill town. Your corner rings bells in my shell-like. Even today, that sky-line you are invisaging in your head rings true to what I see every day in 1:1 scale.
What size and type are your fonts for Chadwick Parkway. I have a new Cricut machine and want to make some station signs, can you tell me the original height of the text? I am guessing the original height was 12”
The industry corner seems a bit forced, and not really matching the back scene, imo. Also, I'm not sure there's enough space for the level crossing, and some believable roads to those buildings, that would justify the bridge. What would those roads lead to, after passing the buildings? Just "thinking out loud" here. PS. I think rubbing your fingers over the polystyrene foam creates electricity and it gets picked up by the mic cable. Anyway, as always, a joy to watch and listen to you. Cheers
Hello Charlie, as these two storage houses are really "deeply reliefal flat' in fact this small video of a colleauge may hopefully help to add some deep into your scenic: th-cam.com/video/iEWMsC6N-uM/w-d-xo.html The online does look great!!! You do pull me into tremptation to restart my 0n18/0-9 model project I did gave up... Best wishes from Berlin, Chris
Afternoon Charlie hope you’re having a good day great video on Friday adding height dimension to our layouts looks more realistic thought i would let you know that I have got some more celatex to add more height to my other part of my layout and it’s from one of your favourite diy shops B&Q 1200mm X450mm £6.25 bargain compared to wickes over £58.00 what kind of bridge have you decided on the level crossing you talked about train tech do an automated one when a train approaches the crossing it makes the sound as if the barriers are about lift up can’t wait for the next installment take care all the best Kev Beighton Parkway Sheffield
Good stuff again, as usual, Charlie. Great idea on the mock ups. Not sure how ahead of the videos, Chadwick is, but here are a few comments/suggestions : 1) First bridge looked best - if it's only going to a couple of factory buildings, who would have paid for large and expensive arch bridges like the bow string bridge? Particularly as with a railway goods line going right past, it'd be quite likely that in the past the factory/ies would have had their own spur. (You could even model the remnants of that spur in the road surfaces outside the factory. 2) Not sure what looked like the stone-built (laser cut) building works alongside the brick (card) building. The laser cut building also looked to be a slightly larger scale than the card building, and really pulled the whole corner into the foreground (if you see what I mean). I'd guess it's actually the card building that is a bit underscale, which is probably what you want in the distance, which, together with its rather bleached appearance, would help increase the perspective. 3) Putting both the buildings up against the walls, seems to emphasise that it's a corner. Might be worth trying it with the brick (card) building *across* the angle of the corner, even though that would then need a bit kitbashing to get the roof(s) looking right. 4) I share Gary Long's (above/below) concerns that the land would have been there before the railway, and that the railway company wouldn't have excavated such a massive area, rather than just putting the lines through a cutting. If there were/had been sidings or a goods yard there, then that might explain why so much land was removed, but I rather suspect, the railway company would have put the sidings/yard somewhere cheaper. Or a combination of the two. 5) I would suggest doing a couple more mock ups, to test possibilities: a) a cutting for the lines coming out of the station b) bringing the raised area over the tracks to the front of the layout. Both, but especially b) would disguise the curse of most model railways: the steepish curves to get round the corner of a room. Might be a bit of compression from your camera lens that's emphasising the curves. I might be tempted to see how it might look if the land sloped down from the raised area in the corner to the river. 6) Your hand gesture for the bridge over the river suggested a humpback bridge. Would the main road into a station and the factories in the corner really go over a humpback bridge? (I'd better stop. Sorry, this has got a bit long. I don't mean to make it look like I'm laying into you, this list just sort of grew, as I re-watched the video and thought of things)
An excellent and well received comment Andrew. I will revisit this area in its entirety, and I think I need to work on the levels of the land to the left of my proposed bridge area first and see how that impacts on my proposed bridge. I already think that the bridge will be a much more cheaper more narrow bridge without the level crossing gates/barriers. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie I find your posts most helpful I live in Cornwall and i have started to build a U S A switching layout i am using NCE Power cab What would be the best settings to put the Speed settings on to keep to a realistic speed [HO Scale] Sorry to ask this but i am a dinosaur just starting out in DCC Thanks Ian
I’m sorry Ian, but it’s a case of trial and error. It’s a case of adjusting your CV values to give you a realistic running speed. I believe it’s CV 3, 4 and 5. Regards Charlie
Hello Charlie, as I may suspect that you may be running, occasional steamers up your incline. May I suggest using a PowerBase. If memory is correct DCC Concepts supply this, and I believe it to be very good. Keep on with the build. cheers
Looks good Charlie. The only comment I would make is tge isn’t a lot of space between tge end of the bridge and the track . Is there enough room to cantilever a support out from the wall to support the bridge thus moving out from the wall?
Hello Charlie, I have watched a lot of your videos, and they are all very interesting. In my case, this has been the best so far as my new deign relies on two dual mixed gauge inclines/declines in an awkward area. Depending on how long the hot pen is, I thought two batterns, loosely taped, each side of the proposed cut might be helpful in ensuring a straight cut. If you invert the 'spoiled' piece the 'hinging effect' will be in the wrong plane, i.e 3 degrees from vertical. Great work. Thanks again for all the tips.
Hi Charlie. The corner section mock up looked good. Not sure if there’s enough space but did you consider trying an N Scale building to play around with forced perspective?
Nice vid. Always enjoy your content and humor. As sometimes happens, watching resulted in an order for a new tool. Wish I could use your affiliate link, but it doesn't seem practical since I'm over here in the colonies.
Interesting video Charlie, thoroughly enjoyed it. A thought, is the industrial area and bridge mock up too overpowering for the area available, and perhaps visually to the detriment of the station area? What do you want people to notice, where do you want people to look? As for an automated level crossing, that could be troublesome if it clags out and not work visually with the bridge end being so close to the track. If the industrial area is cottage industry, traffic on both the road and track may be light and slow speed Perhaps this allows for a X signed level crossing only with whistle requirement for trains and a stop sign for road traffic. Have fun making your decision. Cheers Steve
Firstly, let me make clear that it's your layout (obviously), and you should do whatever you feel like. You asked for some feedback about the new section behind and around the incline you made in this video. Two things stand out for me; First, I would not put a bridge against a sloping piece of track. In my opinion that would just look wrong, where the bridge is level, but the crossings tracks are rising. Secondly, when you set up the mock up of how you wanted that part of the layout to look, it really looked very cluttered. I would like to suggest that less is more in this situation. As an alternative you might want to look into some sort of tunnel, so that the tracks on the baseboard level are hidden, and you can extend the hillside a bit further inwards towards the board edge. Hope this helps, greetings from the Netherlands!
Hello Charlie. not sure what you are trying to visualize with your crossing. To put gates on both sides of the track would involve gates on the bridge which would be difficult. Not au-fait with UK regulations re crossings and whether gates are compulsory or not .. would just stop lights at both ends of the bridge be suitable? Great fan of the Woodland Scenic risers - have vague memories that the foam they use might design to be less toxic than industrial foam to allow for heat cutters.
Another great video Charlie. But the you did not address the Elephant in the room; did Mrs B actually get to enjoy any of last episodes Bakewell Tart? Roflmao! Take care mate and stay safe. Arthur
Hi Charlie. I like your ideas for this corner of the layout, but my one concern would be having a crossing immediately following the bridge. Unfortunately, I don't have an alternative solution - over to you other viewers!
Hi Charlie, loving the progression being made. An idea for your level crossing would be one that is known as an Automatic Open Crossing Locally Monitored (AOCL) This consists of no barriers saving you barrier worries with motors etc The road uses flashing red lights as normal and the railway uses a white flashing light at the crossing, one either side depending on direction of travel to tell the driver the road stop lights are working and the driver then checks it is clear of any obstruction, that's what is meant by locally monitored, no signal box control required, movement of trains is sensed by a treadle prior to crossing and a reduction in speed board is given for trains on approach. Driver checks for flashing white light and an unobstructed crossing and cracks on at permitted speed and that's it, no fancy stuff or other signals needed and would suit the low speed road crossing your making. These crossings have been in use for many decades, slowly being upgraded to barriers but plenty still around. Probably find examples of the layout of such crossings online somewhere though happy to aid in signage and layout info
Hi Charlie, About the level crossing. Don't do it so advanced with motor driven gates. Just signs and and mabybe signal lights. It is just a industrial track and area with slow going trains.
Did you have any problem getting that adhesive off your putty knife? That stuff looked like it was pretty tough. The riser looks great. I'm still getting used to all the extra room you have compared to before.
Another great video. Thank you for the content. For what it's worth, the embankment looks too tall. It appears to be crossing the boundary from model railway to more "trainset-y". Of course it will make a big difference once scenery is in place but it runs the risk of climbing an embankment to "heaven". How would something S little shorter look, say 3" instead?
Another interesting video Charlie. My suggestion, fwiw, if you do put the warehouses in the corner, some old rails sunk in the ground outside them hinting at a former set of sidings that ran from the line going past would look good. Maybe the outline of a former wagon turntable like they have at Coal Drops Yard at King's Cross even.
Nice Video, Charlie. You don't say how you got the inclines to stick to the radius you made. Is the stuff you used (remind me of its name please) sticky enough that you don't need pins?
I suggest the first bridge (plate girder?), they are more typical in urban areas. Also keep it relatively narrow if it's only for a small industrial area. Mark in Melbourne
I tend to prefer these videos to the electronicals and you make the point well that its good to know where you are going before you start out. Didn't you have a gradient on a previous layout Charlie and is this one being built in the same way ? As to the bridge, I think Tony Northeastern used a similar one to good advantage. Are you going to show how you made it ? The shape and design would work very well. An enjoyable half hour Charlie - thanks.
What about something with a tiny super cheap RC servo for your level crossing arms? You would only need one, and there are some very cheap Chinesium servo controllers available that could be integrated into your computer system?
The change of time is OK. We are, of course our time is about 8 hours ahead of UK. I was just a bit worried when your post was not here at the usual time that you had decided you have had enough. I enjoy all your posts and have learnt a lot from you . . . most of which I still have to put into practice. Cheers - Chris
Hi Charlie, awesome content, keep up the good work 👍🏻😊 myself I am more into Lego trains but I find your channel to be very entertaining! A point of feedback from my end would be that it seems a bit unrealistic to have a level crossing at the end of the bridge.
Hey Charle hope your doing well. I think you should do a video on the advantages of insul frogs for maybe starter modelers as some people may not have the skills for electro frogs. Just a thought. Maybe more in depth about what both can give you why you would purchase one or the other.
Hi Charlie, liked your video, picking up tips for lots of things to do and not to do. With the fill in on the corner behind the had you thought of sizing the card to cover the track bed well as the back corner? You could make a cut out where the level crossing is to be then you could have a drop in unit for the crossing, just in case it went faulty. Andrew
Wasn't sure about the road / bridge / level crossing access to the corner area, but I see from other comments you're already rethinking that one. A thought for further down the incline though, how about a LH point into a short length of track leading to a sand trap run off instead of a catch / trap point?
Just my thoughts. The bridge construction would come down to who you imagined paid to build it. If the area in the corner is going to be a dead end/yard parking ect then the bridge built would probably be cheap and basic as it would of probably of been paid for by the land owner/factory owners so more likely a girder bridge. If the road is going to cross the bridge go throught the buildings and off through the back scene then the council/road builders would of paid and it would of been a more substantial bridge to carry a more used road.
When cutting foam with a hot cutter, a steel ruler will suck heat out of the cutter - use a wooden straight edge, or better, a 'band-saw' style design (maybe a bit of a faff for just one cut).
Charlie, why not a slight slope down on the far side of your incline in front of the backdrop. A level extension towards the photo will take away the effect of depth. To create the illusion of more depth you can do that by sloping down the scenery towards the horizon.
Hi reminds me of where I grew up chivalry rd in South West London there was a good yard across the road reached from the main line by a gradient just outside Clapham junction it was the original Wandsworth common station but downgraded to a good yard
I’m not so sure about those buildings Charlie, I thought they seemed a bit on the big side. I was faced with a similar dilemma albeit with n gauge, I decided on a farm and at first tried some Metcalfe building but they looked huge and out of perspective. I then tried the overpriced offerings from Scenecraft which I’m sure use a different scale to Metcalfe and the it looked much better. Nothing against Metcalfe mind it just down to the perspective. They also say there’s a prototype for everything but you don’t think the level crossing will be a bit close to the end of the bridge, knowing you always go to a lot of trouble to make your work prototypical as if it was in the real world. Please don’t be offended though because I do enjoy your stuff.
a track sensor so has the train gets near the level crossing the gates close and the warning lights flash -- small 3-5mm tubes push though the incline for making the gates move up + down -- wooden blocks under the corner that would be better for supports that way you can put peg post in if you need to take the board off for any maintenance if needed
Charlie, just a thought. Why not reduce the length of the platforms and build the station entrance where you intended putting the bridge to the industrial area. The road from the river to the industrial are via the station would make an interesting feature. Also as the elevated part of the station entrance would give the illusion of longer length platforms without taking up a huge area of the base boards..
Hi, For the level crossing (and the industrial scene), perhaps build the whole piece as a slot in module that way it can be built easier and be removable for maintenance. Have some sort of connector for the power so it doesn't need to be rewired each time. When you add lighting to it it can all be self contained and controlled.
Another excellent and fascinating video. My only comment is that if you put a couple of warehouses against the wall and at 90 degrees to each other then they tend to draw attention to the corner of the room. - and thus make the suspension of disbelief of the viewer a little more difficult.
Dear Chadwick model railway why don't you put a short disused platform to make it seem like the the branch when past the industrial area and to make it look like the line was cut back the the industrial area.
another indormative video although I think your two factories are a bit too tall for the area ,its not my layout. As for the hot knife adding a coat of non stick cooking spray helps with the flow of cutting
Hi Charlie, if you can get a brass rod to the rear of the level crossing barrier then control it with a servo motor, you can control the servo motor with a 555 timer ic and a double pole switch which round alter the resistance to control the position, if need be I can build you the electronics.
I have seen handsaws made to cut long sections of foam on the web. One of those seems to be able to cut that foam down muck easier. What about the gap in the polystyrene foam? I have a bridge in the town I live in that crosses two rivers and connects three sections of land. It works that way because there is an intersection in the middle. What about that sort of a bridge? It is made of concrete with supports under the intersection and a set on both ends.
also another idea is maybe talk about what radius is best for longer rolling stock ie 7 coach train. what is a too tight radius been trying to look that up.
Hi Charlie, just nit picking, video’s 139 & 141 need the the numbers adding, 😂 - thanks to your videos I am now in the throws of starting my own build….
Inclines have always been an uphill struggle for me... Sorry 😁 Well done with the incline, looks a job job mate 👍 The Freightliner depot sounds like a great idea though sir, would enjoy seeing that develop! Take care 👍
Brilliant video, I don't have a railway but very much enjoy watching your exploits. With reference to the crossing, as it is purely for goods, is it necessary to have functioning barriers, could you not have flashing beacon/ lights when the train is approaching the industrial zone? Excellent presentation as always.
I really like the look and idea of your industrial area so far. Just a thought about the bridge; if your intention is to have it as a service road to the warehouses you might want it as a single road and therefore a narrower bridge? Either way I’m sure it will look fab when finished!
Another great video, thanks. I like the bow bridge but to me it looks much too wide. As if you are taking a main road into a dead end industrial estate, that couldn’t justify that amount of traffic.
Charlie, Thank you again for a great video. I love the planning and thought that you put in to your layout. The mock-up with styrene and cardboard is a great idea. Stay safe, cheers, Michael
"What could possibly go wrong?" Those are usually my famous last words before catastrophe! But for you, Charlie, looks like you have a solid plan for the upper level transition. It's always good to see how others work these things out. I tend to take forever making these plans; suppose I need to take Nike's advice - Just Do It! Thanks for the great video, as always!
Well done video as usual Charlie. One question… Who make the building on the left side of the scene? Looks like it has possibilities for my industrial area. Thanks.. Joe from Nee Jersey. USA
Great video, Charlie! Mock-ups really are helpful in deciding where to put things. I do like that bow string bridge! That particular one may be a bit wide for the area, but I do like the design! Remember rule #1: Your railroad, your rules.
Great video Charlie and more inspiration for starting my first layout. Regarding the bridge though I'd be tempted not to have one at all and just have metal railings fencing tbe industrial area off. That way it's accessed from off the layout and we are looking at it from the 'back yard'. Means no need for a high bridge or awkward crossing. Maybe have some maintenance stress coming up the side of the retaining wall to break things up a tad. Keep well
Sometimes in the real world there are two different bridge styles, say a brick arch over a road, then a steel bridge over the rails, usually determined how the area developed - while the combined crossing may seem a bit disparate, it could lend a bit of authenticity. And the main thing that really bugs me about the station is the "parcels road" on the nearside, as you cannot depart correct side over the viaduct. Looks like you might have sufficient space between the platform and incline to have a short road back there(?) could even be used for a shuttle service to the branch!!
As you may have noticed, I've now changed the release time to 5pm rather than 12 noon (UK times).
I do hope that this hasn’t inconvenienced you.
Regards Charlie
11 pm (NZ time) came and went with no Charlie video so I drifted off unfulfilled with your humour and wisdom and know how.....I now know my fix will be there first thing Saturday morning.
I am struggling to find the words to describe your dedication and enthusiasm to produce with such regularity your videos.
You have my thanks and appreciation for what you do.
Nope..anytime on Saturday is a good time to review your work Charlie.
Not a problem I always watched them on catch up
Nope cuz I'm on the other side of the lake so I don't see it till later. As long as I get to see it doesn't matter to me.
No problem Charlie, just glad to see the video's when you have time to release them, please keep up the good work.
Greetings from the most remote city on the planet; Perth, Australia. I too will be retiring at Easter time and embarking on my model railroad journey. Of all the tutorials available to me on TH-cam, I find The Chadwick Model Railway authored by Charlie to be the most informative, easiest to understand (mostly) and often most entertaining of them all. I will be taking great note of all the information Charlie has to offer when I commence my build. Thank you and I look forward to many more informational and entertaining videos.
Thanks Jerry, for such a heartwarming comment. Regards Charlie
Could you use that girder bridge to carry the freight line over the river? I think it would suit the freight train look. Great video by the way.
You’re right Alan but I’m planning a longer one.
Another interesting video. My only thought is that the positioning of the two buildings parallel to the walls of the room tends to strongly link the scene to the room and so unnecessary make it look more model like than it needs to. Having the buildings at slightly different angles might reduce this effect.
The main point of the video that mock ups allow one to get a better idea of what a layout will look like than just track plans and one’s imagination is well made.
You’re dead right Andrew, I’m already rethinking that area.
@@ChadwickModelRailway Great video. Agree with Andrew, it's important to hide the room corner not emphasize it. Moving the lines of the buildings around can enable clearer perspectives. A further thought, allowing the upper surface to fall away slightly towards the backscene can avoid those awkward baseboard/backscene meetings.
Charlie, great video. One of the recommended things to do with Woodland Scenic inclines and risers before attaching roadbed is to use a paper masking tape to lay across the top of those. Modelers have done that and claim that it has lasted for years. I have done it myself and the thin paper masking tape will not introduce any bumps into your incline. The tape keeps ballast from falling between the gaps and gives you more surface area to glue your roadbed to on the inclines.
Thanks mate, great tip. Regards Charlie
Charlie My thoughts are that the upper level looks too tall in relation to the main track area. You have built up from the main track board but the higher level would have been in place first and presumably the main area would have been excavated to get the tracks through so you wouldn’t have excavated more than you need to. There is such a tall wall next to the main track with a large gap underneath the bridge without any sensible reason if that makes sense. I would suggest the proportions would look better if it was say 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inches too high. With regards to the level crossing you could cut out a section of the foam risers and span over the gap with a section of plywood with the operating mechanism mounted underneath if that makes sense. I have an express models level crossing which has motorised barriers lights and sirens all mounted underneath a removable top section. Hope that gives you some food for thought.
Well said that's my thoughts as well
An excellent point Gary and (sadly) I believe that you’re right too.
Charlie you could also have the bridge sloping down slightly assuming the off scene road level was lower also the cars nearest to the front would need less clearance
Yep, always consider what was there before the railway arrived. If a bridge is required here then a lot of earth was removed to build the railway.
"I need to build from the back forwards" If only I had thought of that....! Ah well, its all a learning curve! I purchased one of those cutting pens, it burned out quite quickly, but that was probably a case of tool abuse on my part. The only thing I would add, is that the fumes from cutting polystyrene in this way are extremely toxic and noxious. I resorted to wearing a mask and/or cutting outside. It really is pungent, as you mentioned. Another great video Charlie. All the best, Nige
Thanks Nige, a very useful comment. Regards Charlie.
Not just toxic mate, polystyrene is known to cause lung cancer.
I use an adjustable box cutter blade for cutting foam gotta make sure it's sharp or it's a rough time.
Hello from Christchurch New Zealand, I have one of these cutters to that failed, so I unscrewed the brass nut and the outer tube fell off and I found that the element circuit uses the tube to complete the circuit And this was broken so I measured how far into tube it went reassembled and squashed the end of the tube on to the element. Hey presto it lives again! Hope this helps!
@@alanswallow9033 Thanks very much. I will try that. Nige
Great video Charlie and glad you got to visit South Devon Railway. It's a beautiful area and the route to Totnes alongside the River Dart takes some beating!
Top drawer memories DS.
Charlie, re-the industrial corner. Why not have a disused siding in front of one of the warehouses with the track inset into the roadway? Just a thought.
And interesting thought Peter, and you’re not the 1st to suggest either. Regards Charlie
great episode this week, may have an idea for you, you could have a none functioning point and a small section of track going into that industrial area, then put a fence and gate across it as if it used to be used but isnt any more.
Interesting point Richard, I shall look into it. Regards Charlie
I like the way you go about figuring things out and present them. Just a good rule to find out if the grad is to steep is to stop the train on the gread a see if it starts moves from there, if not you are to steep is my feelings. Great video Charlie....thanks for sharing 😉
I’m so pleased that you found it interesting JO.
My 2 cents worth on the corner Charlie.
Less is more IMHO, far too much going on there. A bridge, level crossing, retaining wall, road to station, 4 track main line, it seems as though you're trying to cram too much in. I would imagine there is a prototype somewhere, but a level crossing immediately after a bridge doesn't seem to sit right, an access road to the right of the warehouses at back wall would look a bit more convincing for me.
Ultimately if these are your must haves then go for it, it's your train set and rule 1 applies!
Also, instead of attempting to asphyxiate yourself with the hot sword, you could have made a neater job of the incline by clamping 2 bits of wood either side and using a Japanese style negative rake pull saw to make the cut.
Keep up the good work.
Mike.
An excellent point Mike and much appreciated.
Aside, and giggle.. ask the company themselves.. it’s peek-oh, not Peck-oh.. I’ll apologise for John’s pronounciation in advance. Drives me nuts!
I know the feeling!
Woodland scenics recommend filling the gaps in that flexi-polystyrene stuff with that guey plaster of Paris chewed up toilet roll stuff. Oh dear, have I let the cat out the bag.. apart from PVA and cat litter.. I know Jenny Kiel’s trick with Impregnated Jayes cloth and PVA.. using bog roll and PVA has come in handy in the past. Like Mod-rock (Jarvis of Stockport) but different
Interesting options Kris.
Had another thought about Devon scenics. I know I’m a bit of a 009 freak, but have you ever seen ‘County gate’ ? John and I used to natter on occasion on new railway modellers forum.. Look his thingy up on TH-cam. Some interesting ideas, scenics-wise that may be useful..🚂🚂😉
Thanks Kris, I’ll check it out.
Hì Charlie ... regarding level crossing barriers and lights you could make one up using SG90 servos and flashing LEDs ... have a look on TH-cam as there are a few builds using Arduino... ooops hope thats not to technical but its easy ...
Thanks John, I shall certainly check it out.
Hi Charlie. Loving the work. Crossing gates.. look up Megapoints, and their servo system. Used for Points and signals, but watch the how-to video. Attaching them directly to the pivot of a crossing gate works the same as signals. Alternatively, barriers, with them underneath, with a bit of piano-wire of about 0.8 mil dia, should work. Had a thought about that bridge. How about the road bridge at the top of Crewe station throat? All a bit girder and concrete but does the whole span in One, so you get views underneath. I must get back to airbrushing 009 rolling stock now. All main station buildings fitted with LED lighting and interiors! Lots of little people painted with the thin end of a cocktail stick. All 200 of them🙃🚂K.
Great comment Kris and good luck with yours.
Blindingly obvious.. I forgot this.. Inspiration for you, since I live here.. Look up Old pictures of Macclesfield. Also known as silk town, an old mill town. Your corner rings bells in my shell-like. Even today, that sky-line you are invisaging in your head rings true to what I see every day in 1:1 scale.
Thanks Kris Google Maps next
What size and type are your fonts for Chadwick Parkway. I have a new Cricut machine and want to make some station signs, can you tell me the original height of the text?
I am guessing the original height was 12”
Check it out at www.jafgraphics.co.uk
The industry corner seems a bit forced, and not really matching the back scene, imo. Also, I'm not sure there's enough space for the level crossing, and some believable roads to those buildings, that would justify the bridge. What would those roads lead to, after passing the buildings?
Just "thinking out loud" here.
PS. I think rubbing your fingers over the polystyrene foam creates electricity and it gets picked up by the mic cable.
Anyway, as always, a joy to watch and listen to you.
Cheers
An excellent point Adrian and a good spot with the static.
Hello Charlie,
as these two storage houses are really "deeply reliefal flat' in fact this small video of a colleauge may hopefully help to add some deep into your scenic:
th-cam.com/video/iEWMsC6N-uM/w-d-xo.html
The online does look great!!!
You do pull me into tremptation to restart my 0n18/0-9 model project I did gave up...
Best wishes from Berlin, Chris
An interesting idea Chris, thanks. Regards Charlie
Afternoon Charlie hope you’re having a good day great video on Friday adding height dimension to our layouts looks more realistic thought i would let you know that I have got some more celatex to add more height to my other part of my layout and it’s from one of your favourite diy shops B&Q 1200mm X450mm £6.25 bargain compared to wickes over £58.00 what kind of bridge have you decided on the level crossing you talked about train tech do an automated one when a train approaches the crossing it makes the sound as if the barriers are about lift up can’t wait for the next installment take care all the best
Kev Beighton Parkway Sheffield
I’m sorry Kev I really haven’t decided even to definitely have a bridge yet. Regards Charlie
Good stuff again, as usual, Charlie. Great idea on the mock ups. Not sure how ahead of the videos, Chadwick is, but here are a few comments/suggestions :
1) First bridge looked best - if it's only going to a couple of factory buildings, who would have paid for large and expensive arch bridges like the bow string bridge? Particularly as with a railway goods line going right past, it'd be quite likely that in the past the factory/ies would have had their own spur. (You could even model the remnants of that spur in the road surfaces outside the factory.
2) Not sure what looked like the stone-built (laser cut) building works alongside the brick (card) building. The laser cut building also looked to be a slightly larger scale than the card building, and really pulled the whole corner into the foreground (if you see what I mean). I'd guess it's actually the card building that is a bit underscale, which is probably what you want in the distance, which, together with its rather bleached appearance, would help increase the perspective.
3) Putting both the buildings up against the walls, seems to emphasise that it's a corner. Might be worth trying it with the brick (card) building *across* the angle of the corner, even though that would then need a bit kitbashing to get the roof(s) looking right.
4) I share Gary Long's (above/below) concerns that the land would have been there before the railway, and that the railway company wouldn't have excavated such a massive area, rather than just putting the lines through a cutting. If there were/had been sidings or a goods yard there, then that might explain why so much land was removed, but I rather suspect, the railway company would have put the sidings/yard somewhere cheaper. Or a combination of the two.
5) I would suggest doing a couple more mock ups, to test possibilities: a) a cutting for the lines coming out of the station b) bringing the raised area over the tracks to the front of the layout. Both, but especially b) would disguise the curse of most model railways: the steepish curves to get round the corner of a room. Might be a bit of compression from your camera lens that's emphasising the curves. I might be tempted to see how it might look if the land sloped down from the raised area in the corner to the river.
6) Your hand gesture for the bridge over the river suggested a humpback bridge. Would the main road into a station and the factories in the corner really go over a humpback bridge?
(I'd better stop. Sorry, this has got a bit long. I don't mean to make it look like I'm laying into you, this list just sort of grew, as I re-watched the video and thought of things)
An excellent and well received comment Andrew.
I will revisit this area in its entirety, and I think I need to work on the levels of the land to the left of my proposed bridge area first and see how that impacts on my proposed bridge.
I already think that the bridge will be a much more cheaper more narrow bridge without the level crossing gates/barriers.
Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie
I find your posts most helpful
I live in Cornwall and i have started to build a U S A switching layout
i am using NCE Power cab
What would be the best settings to put the Speed settings on to keep to a realistic speed
[HO Scale]
Sorry to ask this but i am a dinosaur just starting out in DCC
Thanks
Ian
I’m sorry Ian, but it’s a case of trial and error. It’s a case of adjusting your CV values to give you a realistic running speed.
I believe it’s CV 3, 4 and 5. Regards Charlie
Hello Charlie, as I may suspect that you may be running, occasional steamers up your incline. May I suggest using a PowerBase. If memory is correct DCC Concepts supply this, and I believe it to be very good. Keep on with the build. cheers
You may have missed a previous video Lindsey, I have power base on the up line of the Helix, regards Charlie
Looks good Charlie. The only comment I would make is tge isn’t a lot of space between tge end of the bridge and the track .
Is there enough room to cantilever a support out from the wall to support the bridge thus moving out from the wall?
An interesting thought Charlie, I’ll take a look.
Hello Charlie, I have watched a lot of your videos, and they are all very interesting. In my case, this has been the best so far as my new deign relies on two dual mixed gauge inclines/declines in an awkward area. Depending on how long the hot pen is, I thought two batterns, loosely taped, each side of the proposed cut might be helpful in ensuring a straight cut. If you invert the 'spoiled' piece the 'hinging effect' will be in the wrong plane, i.e 3 degrees from vertical. Great work. Thanks again for all the tips.
I’m so pleased that you found it interesting RT. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie. The corner section mock up looked good. Not sure if there’s enough space but did you consider trying an N Scale building to play around with forced perspective?
Thanks Stephen, good suggestion .
Nice vid. Always enjoy your content and humor. As sometimes happens, watching resulted in an order for a new tool. Wish I could use your affiliate link, but it doesn't seem practical since I'm over here in the colonies.
It’s great to have you onboard Donald.
Interesting video Charlie, thoroughly enjoyed it. A thought, is the industrial area and bridge mock up too overpowering for the area available, and perhaps visually to the detriment of the station area? What do you want people to notice, where do you want people to look?
As for an automated level crossing, that could be troublesome if it clags out and not work visually with the bridge end being so close to the track. If the industrial area is cottage industry, traffic on both the road and track may be light and slow speed Perhaps this allows for a X signed level crossing only with whistle requirement for trains and a stop sign for road traffic.
Have fun making your decision.
Cheers
Steve
Thanks Steve, the worries that keep me awake at night. Regards Charlie.
Firstly, let me make clear that it's your layout (obviously), and you should do whatever you feel like. You asked for some feedback about the new section behind and around the incline you made in this video. Two things stand out for me; First, I would not put a bridge against a sloping piece of track. In my opinion that would just look wrong, where the bridge is level, but the crossings tracks are rising. Secondly, when you set up the mock up of how you wanted that part of the layout to look, it really looked very cluttered. I would like to suggest that less is more in this situation. As an alternative you might want to look into some sort of tunnel, so that the tracks on the baseboard level are hidden, and you can extend the hillside a bit further inwards towards the board edge. Hope this helps, greetings from the Netherlands!
A very useful comment mate thank you. Regards Charlie
Hello Charlie. not sure what you are trying to visualize with your crossing. To put gates on both sides of the track would involve gates on the bridge which would be difficult.
Not au-fait with UK regulations re crossings and whether gates are compulsory or not .. would just stop lights at both ends of the bridge be suitable?
Great fan of the Woodland Scenic risers - have vague memories that the foam they use might design to be less toxic than industrial foam to allow for heat cutters.
A good point mate, I think the gates are no no. Regards Charlie.
Another great video Charlie. But the you did not address the Elephant in the room; did Mrs B actually get to enjoy any of last episodes Bakewell Tart? Roflmao! Take care mate and stay safe. Arthur
Rest assured Arthur, I did share the tart, although not quite equally!
you forgot to number the Layout planning with "mock-ups" at Chadwick Model Railway as #141
Thanks MD, now sorted.
Hi Charlie. I like your ideas for this corner of the layout, but my one concern would be having a crossing immediately following the bridge. Unfortunately, I don't have an alternative solution - over to you other viewers!
The bridge is starting to look dodgy Paul.
Hi Charlie, loving the progression being made.
An idea for your level crossing would be one that is known as an Automatic Open Crossing Locally Monitored (AOCL)
This consists of no barriers saving you barrier worries with motors etc
The road uses flashing red lights as normal and the railway uses a white flashing light at the crossing, one either side depending on direction of travel to tell the driver the road stop lights are working and the driver then checks it is clear of any obstruction, that's what is meant by locally monitored, no signal box control required, movement of trains is sensed by a treadle prior to crossing and a reduction in speed board is given for trains on approach.
Driver checks for flashing white light and an unobstructed crossing and cracks on at permitted speed and that's it, no fancy stuff or other signals needed and would suit the low speed road crossing your making.
These crossings have been in use for many decades, slowly being upgraded to barriers but plenty still around.
Probably find examples of the layout of such crossings online somewhere though happy to aid in signage and layout info
Thanks Rob, I shall certainly check them out.
Hi Charlie,
About the level crossing. Don't do it so advanced with motor driven gates. Just signs and and mabybe signal lights. It is just a industrial track and area with slow going trains.
You’re dead right Jan.
Did you have any problem getting that adhesive off your putty knife? That stuff looked like it was pretty tough.
The riser looks great. I'm still getting used to all the extra room you have compared to before.
Yes Frank that glue was somewhat sticky always like silicon.
Another great video. Thank you for the content.
For what it's worth, the embankment looks too tall. It appears to be crossing the boundary from model railway to more "trainset-y". Of course it will make a big difference once scenery is in place but it runs the risk of climbing an embankment to "heaven". How would something S little shorter look, say 3" instead?
Rest assured Alex it will blend in okay once the angled retaining wall is in place.
Another interesting video Charlie. My suggestion, fwiw, if you do put the warehouses in the corner, some old rails sunk in the ground outside them hinting at a former set of sidings that ran from the line going past would look good.
Maybe the outline of a former wagon turntable like they have at Coal Drops Yard at King's Cross even.
I'm so pleased that you enjoyed it Mark and I shall certainly look into installing tracks in that area. Stay safe. Regards Charlie
Nice Video, Charlie. You don't say how you got the inclines to stick to the radius you made. Is the stuff you used (remind me of its name please) sticky enough that you don't need pins?
I think you must’ve missed that part Steven , take another look mate. I do explain it. Regards Charlie
I suggest the first bridge (plate girder?), they are more typical in urban areas. Also keep it relatively narrow if it's only for a small industrial area.
Mark in Melbourne
You’re on the button Mark. Regards Charlie.
I tend to prefer these videos to the electronicals and you make the point well that its good to know where you are going before you start out. Didn't you have a gradient on a previous layout Charlie and is this one being built in the same way ? As to the bridge, I think Tony Northeastern used a similar one to good advantage. Are you going to show how you made it ? The shape and design would work very well. An enjoyable half hour Charlie - thanks.
Thanks Martin, I shall take a look at Tony Northeastern.
What about something with a tiny super cheap RC servo for your level crossing arms? You would only need one, and there are some very cheap Chinesium servo controllers available that could be integrated into your computer system?
Thanks mate, I must confess I know nothing about those things so I have to do some digging. Regards Charlie
The change of time is OK. We are, of course our time is about 8 hours ahead of UK. I was just a bit worried when your post was not here at the usual time that you had decided you have had enough. I enjoy all your posts and have learnt a lot from you . . . most of which I still have to put into practice.
Cheers - Chris
Thanks Chris, it’s great to have you on board.
Charlie, here is a link to marking out curves when your centre is outside of the layout. th-cam.com/video/IncZDNrY2KQ/w-d-xo.html HTH
Thanks Jane. Regards Charlie
Very nice modeling, however it looks like an architectural model....meaning it's too clean
I’d like to agree William, but I haven’t built it yet, give me a chance. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie, awesome content, keep up the good work 👍🏻😊 myself I am more into Lego trains but I find your channel to be very entertaining! A point of feedback from my end would be that it seems a bit unrealistic to have a level crossing at the end of the bridge.
A point that is very popular in the comments KK
Hey Charle hope your doing well. I think you should do a video on the advantages of insul frogs for maybe starter modelers as some people may not have the skills for electro frogs. Just a thought. Maybe more in depth about what both can give you why you would purchase one or the other.
An interesting suggestion James. Regards Charlie
Hello Charlie, have you thought of servos for the operation of your planed level crossing. These being of a small size may fit your situation'
A great suggestion AP
Hi Charlie, liked your video, picking up tips for lots of things to do and not to do. With the fill in on the corner behind the had you thought of sizing the card to cover the track bed well as the back corner? You could make a cut out where the level crossing is to be then you could have a drop in unit for the crossing, just in case it went faulty. Andrew
Hi Andrew, you have raised an interesting option. Regards Charlie
Wasn't sure about the road / bridge / level crossing access to the corner area, but I see from other comments you're already rethinking that one. A thought for further down the incline though, how about a LH point into a short length of track leading to a sand trap run off instead of a catch / trap point?
An interesting thought Nigel and I will take a look.
Just my thoughts. The bridge construction would come down to who you imagined paid to build it. If the area in the corner is going to be a dead end/yard parking ect then the bridge built would probably be cheap and basic as it would of probably of been paid for by the land owner/factory owners so more likely a girder bridge. If the road is going to cross the bridge go throught the buildings and off through the back scene then the council/road builders would of paid and it would of been a more substantial bridge to carry a more used road.
An interesting point Danny, much appreciated.
When cutting foam with a hot cutter, a steel ruler will suck heat out of the cutter - use a wooden straight edge, or better, a 'band-saw' style design (maybe a bit of a faff for just one cut).
The timber is a good idea.
Regards Charlie.
Charlie, why not a slight slope down on the far side of your incline in front of the backdrop. A level extension towards the photo will take away the effect of depth. To create the illusion of more depth you can do that by sloping down the scenery towards the horizon.
A great idea VH and you’re not the first to suggest it either.
Hi reminds me of where I grew up chivalry rd in South West London there was a good yard across the road reached from the main line by a gradient just outside Clapham junction it was the original Wandsworth common station but downgraded to a good yard
Great memories Jason
Why is the road bridge so high Charlie? The model clubs road bridge was much lower. If the height was reduced then the level crossing could be flat
To cross the branch line Andrew.
I’m not so sure about those buildings Charlie, I thought they seemed a bit on the big side. I was faced with a similar dilemma albeit with n gauge, I decided on a farm and at first tried some Metcalfe building but they looked huge and out of perspective. I then tried the overpriced offerings from Scenecraft which I’m sure use a different scale to Metcalfe and the it looked much better. Nothing against Metcalfe mind it just down to the perspective. They also say there’s a prototype for everything but you don’t think the level crossing will be a bit close to the end of the bridge, knowing you always go to a lot of trouble to make your work prototypical as if it was in the real world. Please don’t be offended though because I do enjoy your stuff.
An excellent and valued comment Roy.
Regards Charlie
Charlie, as usual I thoroughly enjoy your videos and like following along in your thought process.
Thanks Stan I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it mate. Regards Charlie
a track sensor so has the train gets near the level crossing the gates close and the warning lights flash -- small 3-5mm tubes push though the incline for making the gates move up + down -- wooden blocks under the corner that would be better for supports that way you can put peg post in if you need to take the board off for any maintenance if needed
I’m not too sure that you even need barriers. Regards Charlie
Charlie- could you mount the camera in the warehouse for a better line of sight.
Thanks, Jimmy
I use it all over the layout Jimmy.
Charlie, just a thought. Why not reduce the length of the platforms and build the station entrance where you intended putting the bridge to the industrial area. The road from the river to the industrial are via the station would make an interesting feature. Also as the elevated part of the station entrance would give the illusion of longer length platforms without taking up a huge area of the base boards..
I shall certainly check out your proposal SW. Regards Charlie
Hi,
For the level crossing (and the industrial scene), perhaps build the whole piece as a slot in module that way it can be built easier and be removable for maintenance. Have some sort of connector for the power so it doesn't need to be rewired each time. When you add lighting to it it can all be self contained and controlled.
A good tip LS. Regards Charlie
Another excellent and fascinating video. My only comment is that if you put a couple of warehouses against the wall and at 90 degrees to each other then they tend to draw attention to the corner of the room. - and thus make the suspension of disbelief of the viewer a little more difficult.
Yes, you’re dead right David, I’m currently rethinking that area.
Great session Charlie yes love the south devon railway to great model shop 🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
Yes Adam, certainly a great day out
Dear Chadwick model railway why don't you put a short disused platform to make it seem like the the branch when past the industrial area and to make it look like the line was cut back the the industrial area.
An interesting point Joshua.
For the final section, why not glue it 'upside down' so the slightly undulating cut face is glued to the baseboard?
An interesting point Peter, thank you. Regards Charlie
another indormative video although I think your two factories are a bit too tall for the area ,its not my layout. As for the hot knife adding a coat of non stick cooking spray helps with the flow of cutting
I think that you’re right about the building height John, regards Charlie
Hi Charlie, if you can get a brass rod to the rear of the level crossing barrier then control it with a servo motor, you can control the servo motor with a 555 timer ic and a double pole switch which round alter the resistance to control the position, if need be I can build you the electronics.
That’s a very kind offer thank you. However I’m already having second thoughts on that area so we should see how it develops. Regards Charlie
I have seen handsaws made to cut long sections of foam on the web. One of those seems to be able to cut that foam down muck easier. What about the gap in the polystyrene foam? I have a bridge in the town I live in that crosses two rivers and connects three sections of land. It works that way because there is an intersection in the middle. What about that sort of a bridge? It is made of concrete with supports under the intersection and a set on both ends.
Interesting options Paul.
it would be a good idea to have a little stub shunting area by the buildings at the back. possibly then going into the wall ....via a hidden track etc
An interesting point David.
also another idea is maybe talk about what radius is best for longer rolling stock ie 7 coach train. what is a too tight radius been trying to look that up.
My helix is radius 2 and it works fine with the right kind of couplings.
Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie, just nit picking, video’s 139 & 141 need the the numbers adding, 😂 - thanks to your videos I am now in the throws of starting my own build….
Great news on your project, and I shall sort out the numbers thank you. Regards Charlie
Time to sit down with a beer in the comfy chair and watch another Chadwick video!
Good for you mate, put your feet up and relax. Regards Charlie
Charlie you should have clamped two pieces of thin wood each side as guide rails for the pen to run against then no undulations
Great advice Kevin.
Hi Charlie, I found the hot wire cutter is easier to use and control. The one I have is from the same manufacturer
Thanks Derek. Regards Charlie
Will the camber of the bridge look odd when its matched the the incline of the slope?
The whole area is now being reconsidered Richard.
Inclines have always been an uphill struggle for me...
Sorry 😁
Well done with the incline, looks a job job mate 👍
The Freightliner depot sounds like a great idea though sir, would enjoy seeing that develop!
Take care 👍
Great comment IHR, regards Charlie.
@@ChadwickModelRailway I just saw my comment - no idea what happened there!
Auto correct and rushing probably 😁👍
The access bridge would look better if it sloped up to the industrial area rather than being flat
A fair point Rob.
Those buildings looking like they are off the set of Ivor the Engine.
Rest assured they are better in person. Regards Charlie
Brilliant video, I don't have a railway but very much enjoy watching your exploits. With reference to the crossing, as it is purely for goods, is it necessary to have functioning barriers, could you not have flashing beacon/ lights when the train is approaching the industrial zone?
Excellent presentation as always.
I think you’re right David, that barriers are not necessarily essential. Regards Charlie
I really like the look and idea of your industrial area so far. Just a thought about the bridge; if your intention is to have it as a service road to the warehouses you might want it as a single road and therefore a narrower bridge? Either way I’m sure it will look fab when finished!
An excellent point Otis.
Another great video, thanks. I like the bow bridge but to me it looks much too wide. As if you are taking a main road into a dead end industrial estate, that couldn’t justify that amount of traffic.
Yes Ian, it is a bit of an overkill
Charlie,
Thank you again for a great video.
I love the planning and thought that you put in to your layout. The mock-up with styrene and cardboard is a great idea.
Stay safe, cheers,
Michael
Thanks Michael, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
a shame you did not let a track into the corner so there cold be a wagon or two, for train to pick up.
I didn’t want to have track everywhere Johnny, It would make a nice change to put a farm in that area. Regards Charlie
"What could possibly go wrong?" Those are usually my famous last words before catastrophe! But for you, Charlie, looks like you have a solid plan for the upper level transition. It's always good to see how others work these things out. I tend to take forever making these plans; suppose I need to take Nike's advice - Just Do It! Thanks for the great video, as always!
Great advice Pat, just do it!
That corner is transformed...what colouring etc will you cover the polystyrene to blend with the grass above ie arches or brickwork ?
I think most of it will be brickwork but of course nature will have an impact too.
Well done video as usual Charlie. One question… Who make the building on the left side of the scene? Looks like it has possibilities for my industrial area.
Thanks.. Joe from Nee Jersey. USA
Joe, it's from www.jsmodels.co.uk 👍
Someone's beaten me to it Joe.
This corner really starts to take shape and it'll look very nice.
Thanks GS, you’re too kind.
Great video, Charlie! Mock-ups really are helpful in deciding where to put things. I do like that bow string bridge! That particular one may be a bit wide for the area, but I do like the design! Remember rule #1: Your railroad, your rules.
Thanks Flyboy.
Great video Charlie and more inspiration for starting my first layout. Regarding the bridge though I'd be tempted not to have one at all and just have metal railings fencing tbe industrial area off. That way it's accessed from off the layout and we are looking at it from the 'back yard'. Means no need for a high bridge or awkward crossing. Maybe have some maintenance stress coming up the side of the retaining wall to break things up a tad. Keep well
An excellent point mate, and I am still undecided.
your vlogs have been so good as I am just learning cheers Alan
Welcome Alan, we are all still learning!
You could put the point motor under the base of the industrial area
You’re right Sam but I’m just not too sure how accessible it will be.
Well done Howard and the Williams family for looking after the old boy on his day out playing trains 😆😆
You’re too kind mate !!!!!
9.45 Hells bells Charlie I nearly had kittens when you went to put your glasses back on with that hot knife in your hand!
TonyS
I’ll have to rewatch it, I never noticed!
Wow, a close call!
If the road is in an industrial area, does the crossing even need to be gated?
I think that you’re right PV. Regards Charlie
Not many of those bridges about? I've seen plenty here in BC lol.... Not where I live but down at the coast I've seen close to 10
You haven’t said where you are, British Columbia?
@@ChadwickModelRailway ah yes sorry British Columbia yes
I think I would have stood it on end so that I could cut down rather than across
Well we got there in the end Sam.
Sometimes in the real world there are two different bridge styles, say a brick arch over a road, then a steel bridge over the rails, usually determined how the area developed - while the combined crossing may seem a bit disparate, it could lend a bit of authenticity.
And the main thing that really bugs me about the station is the "parcels road" on the nearside, as you cannot depart correct side over the viaduct. Looks like you might have sufficient space between the platform and incline to have a short road back there(?) could even be used for a shuttle service to the branch!!
Neil, if you promise not to tell anyone else, Charlie and I are already in discussion about the subject of the departures from the parcels road
The secret's out then gentlemen!
Thoroughly enjoyed that vlog Charlie no electrics my cup of tea 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤️
Don’t worry, I’ll get you next time. Regards Charlie