Yes agreed. I had that 2ar in my Camry and that engine I absolutely loved. I just bought a Toyota Corolla iM and definitely wish I had that engine and a 6 speed manual. 😁
@@brenthatesashley damn! I want one but the price is so similar to the new Corolla hatchback that it doesn’t make sense to get it with inflation. I like the looks of the IM more than the Corolla.
So.......the big question is this. Will these new cars be a rousing sales success for Scion, or will it simply be a case of "IM, I said........to no one there"?!!!!!!
Good Toyota/Scion/Mazda! I like the iM of the two, and if toyota can use Mazda 6 speed automatic and replace all their 4 speed automatics it will be great!
+Darrell Long CVT's aren't that bad I drive one on the daily and you really get used to it .. I jump from a 5 speed to a CVT throughout the week and it's actually a great tranny for highway driving you get instant power and you ZIP through .. But I do like my 5 speed for more spirit driving . As the CVT belongs to the Nissan Murano Cross Cab and usually cruise but on 95 I put that bitch in overdrive and Zip past BMW's all the time that 3.5 really pulls strong no wonder Nissan uses it in ALL there V6 configurations it's bullet proof ! Has been since '04 when my gmom gotta silver Maxima 3.5se she still has it and it pulls great!!! But yeah CVT's aren't that bad you had to get used to it i will admit . But once you do you will learn to appreciate the difference
Apparently Scion has to partner with other companies to make something good. First Subaru and now Mazda. The iA is basically a Mazda with Scion badges. All of those parts are from the Mazda's parts bin clearly. The iA is a Mazda3 mini me.
There must be something wrong then because mine slides in and out just fine, it does take a little bit of force though to get it to move so maybe you're just being too careful
The plus side of the iA. It makes Mazda even more relevant for reliability. Toyota wouldn't tarnish it's rep if they didn't think Mazda engines weren't reliable. It's still ugly as hell.
Toyota is and will always be dominate in the sales market. These particular models will sell very well. These models are not directed to the ricer market. This is the future of daily driver cars. The real driver's car is now in the past and has become history. " Say no to RICE" Lastly the new Toyota Supra that will be coming to the market will be one of the best cars ever made by far. Honda will not be able to compete with it. Vtech is officially boring "Yawn" Toyota for the win Thank God. P.S. just because it's JDM that don't mean rice it up. Kids now a days are so focused on the stance or low look and are dead fixated on drifting "Wack" this is y nice and cool cars don't last there are too many AHoles driving them then crashing them then parting them out after they had there fun. If we want cooler cars that are RWD then responsibility is key to getting America to give us back the Good Stuff. "Keep the rice on the track"
For scooting around to get groceries, dropping the kids off at school, or running out to grab pizza, I would rather take the IA over a minivan. I have a friend who bought one, and he said there is engine noise but the car is fun to drive and easy to park, plus it sips gas. I've owned 3 Tercels, and a Yaris and a Corolla, so maybe I'm biased, but I've never had a problem with any of my cars, except the Corolla which had an aftermarket cruise control that went wonky and revved the engine to max. But the dealership replaced it for free. I think for those of us looking for a zippy second family car would like this.
first time ever i did'nt like one of your reviews very confusing and very anoying doing two cars at the same time if you have to do it at least do one at a time not jumping back and forth every 30 seconds very disapointing
Too bad this is the only way we are going to get the new Mazda2. Mazda is very quickly taking the market by storm. All the other Japanese automakers are going to be caught with their pants down just like the domestics did back in the 80's and 90's.
Glad to see Scion went out of their way to make the iA as ugly and repulsive as possible. It's a shame because the Mazda2 is such a well developed small "drivers car". Scion left the interior alone and surprise(!) it's fantastic. Mazda designs some of the most visually pleasing and functional interiors around. If you take a look at the new Alfa Romeo Giulia interior you'll find that it looks shockingly like a Mazda, which is not a bad thing at all.
I have to say the iA styling is shocking, its so bad, I don't understand it at all, I try to be open to these things, but holy cow, sort of a bottom feeding fish look? and its got Mazda in it? sweet jesus, they do not have the long term reliability that Toyota is known for, stuck on LCD screen, weak motor, it'll be on the top 10 lists of ugliest cars made in the 2010-2020 in the future i'm sure
+Kingsoupturbo Sorry, But pure built Mazdas, always top reliability charts. And wait for that CVT in the iM to crap out.. Honda Fit is already having reliability issues with the CVT as is everyone else. Kia topped Honda in Consumer Reports, they stuck with reliable 6spd autos, and still get better mileage. Same here with the iA. Also car gets TOP scores at IIHS crash tests, and has precollision braking. I wish it looked a little better. But its fun to drive from what I have read... weighs 2400lbs.. dont need much HP
I bought the iM and I could not be happier! Love that car!
Is it worth buying ?
Am I the only one who actually likes the front of the iA?
I like it too... reminds me of a nurse shark or some kind of shark like shark... XD
Yes you are. Looks super cheap. Reminds me of a Kia.
Remarkably ugly...what are they thinking?
@S. D. H. I like halogen reflectors
The iM needs the engine from the tC...
TheSuperMotoHooligan I'd rather a 2zz. But even that would be a good option with the 2.5.
Yes agreed. I had that 2ar in my Camry and that engine I absolutely loved. I just bought a Toyota Corolla iM and definitely wish I had that engine and a 6 speed manual. 😁
Toyota Auris and Mazda2
I bought a Im yesterday. it is an awesome car. only wish it was available with a moonroof. mine is an automatic in red.
Four years later I still love my IM.
It now has 216,000 miles!
@@brenthatesashley damn! I want one but the price is so similar to the new Corolla hatchback that it doesn’t make sense to get it with inflation. I like the looks of the IM more than the Corolla.
@@brenthatesashley just bought a 2016 w 150k how is yours running and how many miles are on it now?
@@brenthatesashleydo you still have the car ? Im looking into buying a use im but I want a reliable car
@@wenbaitehows your car so far? Im thinking of getting one
It's a rebadged Mazda 2 with a really ugly scion fascia.
So.......the big question is this. Will these new cars be a rousing sales success for Scion, or will it simply be a case of "IM, I said........to no one there"?!!!!!!
the only redeeming feature is that it starts out as a Mazda
they need to drop the 2.5 i4 from the Camry into the I'm nice car but slow, felt like my old matrix but that was a xrs and was fun to drive.
All that style and 138 hp lol.. Whatever happened to the days of the xrs 170ish hp
I can't believe that Toyota/Scion is discontinuing the xB 😕😭
Good Toyota/Scion/Mazda! I like the iM of the two, and if toyota can use Mazda 6 speed automatic and replace all their 4 speed automatics it will be great!
+smibru It's CVT, so no
Lol. Yeah, I don't particularly like CVTs either, but the car looks good.
+Darrell Long CVT's aren't that bad I drive one on the daily and you really get used to it .. I jump from a 5 speed to a CVT throughout the week and it's actually a great tranny for highway driving you get instant power and you ZIP through .. But I do like my 5 speed for more spirit driving . As the CVT belongs to the Nissan Murano Cross Cab and usually cruise but on 95 I put that bitch in overdrive and Zip past BMW's all the time that 3.5 really pulls strong no wonder Nissan uses it in ALL there V6 configurations it's bullet proof ! Has been since '04 when my gmom gotta silver Maxima 3.5se she still has it and it pulls great!!! But yeah CVT's aren't that bad you had to get used to it i will admit . But once you do you will learn to appreciate the difference
smibru 6 speed automatic of Mazda is not cvt
My 2012 9.0 xB - would slaughter both those toys
Apparently Scion has to partner with other companies to make something good. First Subaru and now Mazda. The iA is basically a Mazda with Scion badges. All of those parts are from the Mazda's parts bin clearly. The iA is a Mazda3 mini me.
how can it be a Road Test without 0-60, breaking, or slalom?
Idk how that iA steering wheel adjusts by going in and out because mine only adjusts up and down
There must be something wrong then because mine slides in and out just fine, it does take a little bit of force though to get it to move so maybe you're just being too careful
The plus side of the iA. It makes Mazda even more relevant for reliability. Toyota wouldn't tarnish it's rep if they didn't think Mazda engines weren't reliable. It's still ugly as hell.
I thought the iA was based off the toyota car in Europe.
Man i want the iM interior in a the tC
I think it's a good car for older poople.
@smibru agree
throw the 6A in the Im and I would be sold
Toyota is and will always be dominate in the sales market. These particular models will sell very well. These models are not directed to the ricer market. This is the future of daily driver cars. The real driver's car is now in the past and has become history. " Say no to RICE" Lastly the new Toyota Supra that will be coming to the market will be one of the best cars ever made by far. Honda will not be able to compete with it. Vtech is officially boring "Yawn" Toyota for the win Thank God. P.S. just because it's JDM that don't mean rice it up. Kids now a days are so focused on the stance or low look and are dead fixated on drifting "Wack" this is y nice and cool cars don't last there are too many AHoles driving them then crashing them then parting them out after they had there fun. If we want cooler cars that are RWD then responsibility is key to getting America to give us back the Good Stuff. "Keep the rice on the track"
You spoke the truth lol!
ill just go for a real Mazda.
The face of iM reminds me of a Prius... but the iA is just fugly
I want this car...need to replace my 1996 tercel.
iM or iA
For scooting around to get groceries, dropping the kids off at school, or running out to grab pizza, I would rather take the IA over a minivan. I have a friend who bought one, and he said there is engine noise but the car is fun to drive and easy to park, plus it sips gas. I've owned 3 Tercels, and a Yaris and a Corolla, so maybe I'm biased, but I've never had a problem with any of my cars, except the Corolla which had an aftermarket cruise control that went wonky and revved the engine to max. But the dealership replaced it for free. I think for those of us looking for a zippy second family car would like this.
I don't like the front of the iA or the back of the iM. Yuck.
first time ever i did'nt like one of your reviews very confusing and very anoying doing two cars at the same time if you have to do it at least do one at a time not jumping back and forth every 30 seconds very disapointing
Too bad this is the only way we are going to get the new Mazda2. Mazda is very quickly taking the market by storm. All the other Japanese automakers are going to be caught with their pants down just like the domestics did back in the 80's and 90's.
Barely 100 hp and the car weighs what, 2,500 lbs? What is this, 80's domestic econoboxes?
GT6SuzukaTimeTrials 90's domestic econoboxes, but close enough.
Toyota Yaris in canada
Glad to see Scion went out of their way to make the iA as ugly and repulsive as possible. It's a shame because the Mazda2 is such a well developed small "drivers car". Scion left the interior alone and surprise(!) it's fantastic. Mazda designs some of the most visually pleasing and functional interiors around. If you take a look at the new Alfa Romeo Giulia interior you'll find that it looks shockingly like a Mazda, which is not a bad thing at all.
The sedan is both boring and ugly. The hatch is just boring.
They look pretty awful, if toyota thinks this will appeal to young people, they're wrong.
+right kick hospital left kick cemetary Are you part of the young people demographic?
jonstajon yes
Crappy Mazda? No thanks! What a letdown...
I have to say the iA styling is shocking, its so bad, I don't understand it at all, I try to be open to these things, but holy cow, sort of a bottom feeding fish look? and its got Mazda in it? sweet jesus, they do not have the long term reliability that Toyota is known for, stuck on LCD screen, weak motor, it'll be on the top 10 lists of ugliest cars made in the 2010-2020 in the future i'm sure
Kingsoupturbo reminds me of the Ford Fiesta or Focus
Estirvana Comparing the well sculpted looks of Kinetic Design with this crap? Yeah, right...
I take it you have never owned a Mazda before?
+Kingsoupturbo
Sorry, But pure built Mazdas, always top reliability charts. And wait for that CVT in the iM to crap out.. Honda Fit is already having reliability issues with the CVT as is everyone else.
Kia topped Honda in Consumer Reports, they stuck with reliable 6spd autos, and still get better mileage.
Same here with the iA. Also car gets TOP scores at IIHS crash tests, and has precollision braking.
I wish it looked a little better. But its fun to drive from what I have read... weighs 2400lbs.. dont need much HP
All that style and 138 hp lol.. Whatever happened to the days of the xrs 170ish hp