I don't know why everybody has to immediately call it a race thing to criticize her, she's a poorly written mary sue narcissist who builds her character by attempting to destroy others'. If they had just made her her own character it would be fine, she just elicits hatred becuase she herself is so full of it yet she thinks herself perfect and justified. She would make a perfect villain, she feels like shes always doing the right thing no matter what it is or who she hurts to prove her superiority. also, a funny little side note but I love that she was designed and named after a Japanize iron man porn parody cause this story feels like porno writing, just really not thought through realistically.
SpamorammA I question which comics you’ve been reading as there re multiple points where Riri questions whether her choices are correct and feels regret over her mistakes. Also, the name Ironheart well predates either the comics or the parody. Ironheart is a name in Babylon 5, American Flagg comics, His Name is Nobody, Lone Wolf gamebooks, Kuroko’s Basketball, Arcadia, 009-1, and of course real world history as Chief Cantemaza of the Mniwakaƞ Oyate was known as Chief Ironheart in English.
This is the… weirdest defense I’ve seen about Riri. I’ve never seen anyone knock Riri because she’s black, though I’m sure it’s happened. Most criticism I’ve seen is because she’s a Mary Sue. From what I’ve seen of her, I’m not inclined to disagree. Now granted, you don’t have to LIKE a character, you just have to believe in them and their journey. Most people don’t really believe in the stuff she’s done, and it doesn’t help that she comes off as a villain most of the time.
SteelSpurs You must not like Tony Stark, then. Or Peter Parker. Or Thor. Or Hulk. If doing a bad thing because you were manipulated to do it, while you are a child, makes you not believe in them, how much more would you disbelieve in supposed heroes that, as adults, intentionally and without manipulation committed horrific acts?
@@MothsAudioandVideos Maybe all the examples you listed come off as organic storytelling devices (or retcons) instead of retcons just for the sake of a new character? Has Riri had substantial character growth to warrant the belief? All the others have decades of stories behind them. What does she have?
@@SteelSpurs You think suddenly making Tony Stark a fascist without any buildup or justification, and then reverting back to normal when they got bored with an out of nowhere memory reversal is organic? Meanwhile, Riri was built up to be an incredibly intelligent but naive teenager who understandably falls to the influence of those who attempt to manipulate her, but eventually learns she was being manipulated and strives to correct her wrongdoings while helping others. And that’s less organic to you?
@@MothsAudioandVideos Because Tony Stark already has a foundational character, and that was a sort of flanderization of his worst aspects dialed up. He was horrible, but still at his core a character people liked and were intrigued to see the dark side of. Riri doesn’t have that. She was built up as an annoying know-it-all. That’s not a bad character, mind you, but there wasn’t enough nuance to make you care. People aren’t invested in that. You know who else was a naive and intelligent teenager? Lo and behold, another person of color, Miles Morales, and people adore him. It isn’t hard to figure out why.
I was actually talking with a pal of mine and while I'm not super into Naruto, people completely disregard Sakura bc when she was a little kid, she made a comment on Naruto being a orphan
yolanda castro That is a perfect example. Sakura said something very insensitive when she was a kid. Meanwhile, characters like Jiraiya get free passes for all of their many problems that TH-cam would delete my comment for mentioning.
I hate sakura because all she did was hit Naruto and fangirl over Sasuke while degrading Naruto despite her never doing anything of importance in the original series she just stands there while contributing very little it wasn’t until shippuden where she became a medic did she become relatively useful but still her obsession with a boy who wants nothing to do with her is just annoying, even when Sasuke tried to kill her she still liked him. Sasuke and Sakura’s relationship is extremely toxic even in boruto where Sasuke is rarely ever around for Sarada heck he even tried to kill her when they first met.
your comment just reminds me how sakura is one of the many characters with wasted potential on Naruto, the creator could have done a lot more with her and at the beginning of shippuden he did but forgot about a lot of her and others characters good stories and potential in the franchise.
Nicholas Rodinos But they’d never say Rogue ending every line with Sugar or Nightcrawler using gratuitous German is forcing their identity down their throats.
There are a lot of people who only know MCU Riri, and I think that may explain why so many people hate her character. In the comics she has had character growth, that didn't happen in the MCU.
Yeah, it's fine if people don't like Riri, but it's so odd to hold this panel against her when it's a kid misunderstanding and talking about her idol. It's the vitriol that is thrown at Riri that's so over the top.
The Inhumans routinely commit acts of genocide and terrorism as the Terrigen Mist is fatal to both mutants and humans, despite there being safer alternatives for Terrigenesis, and they tried to kill the Scarlet Witch for making it non-lethal. Marvel Fans: I see nothing wrong here. Riri Williams doesn't understand social cues. Marvel Fans: Guns and pitchforks ready boys.
That’s exactly what the writers were having her do in the comics. It’s not a child that wrote this, so it’s not a child’s mindset that brought that train of thought up. Your defense of that is baseless there. It was clear race baiting and trying to drive an argument. And yes, She is a Mary Sue and it’s annoying. Like many other characters.
Nimbus You’re going to have to be more specific. This comment is clearly referring to something I said, but I said many things. What did I say specifically that upset you?
@@MothsAudioandVideos oh I’m not upset by any means. If they want to write a character like that then that’s their prerogative. However, stating it is anything other than what it clearly is warrants calling out. It is how they designed and not what you say. Doesn’t get any more clear cut than that bud.
@@TheNimbyV Again, I said lots of things, so I genuinely have no idea what you think I said that “warrants calling out.” If you think I said this was a literal child in the real world and not a fictional character written by adults, I’m going to need a citation, because I don’t think I did.
Ant Pain The video is primarily for people unfamiliar with the comics, as they likely heard Riri will be in the MCU, and not knowing who she is, might try to find out about her and why she’s hated.
Of all the people who have a connection to Tony Stark, they had to go with someone who has the littlest connection to him as his successor. If I were in charge of the company, I would go with someone like his best friend, his wife, his daughter, or his protege, any one of those people would be a better hero and worthy successor than Riri would ever be. Who's nothing more than some petty thief who steals something that was never hers, to begin with, nor has she ever earned it, will also try to seek attention, hog up the spotlight, and act like she is better than everyone, just like a spoiled brat. Honestly, Peter or Morgan should have been Iron Man's true successor instead of someone like Riri.
@@magnaknight9252 Then you’ve certainly confused me with your statement that seems at odds with both the video and the comics, and is instead a mash of oft-repeated but not supported lines about Riri mixed with the MCU which doesn’t even feature Riri yet.
DCeased Brick Fan You’ve got to be either kidding or unaware of the long catalogue of intolerable Marvel characters. The 40s? The 90s? Even if you hate Riri, there are much worse characters.
@@MothsAudioandVideos the 40s was before my time. The 90s(especially mid to late) had some rough ones, but, not as high profile. Ok, Scott Summers has definitely given her a solid 2nd a few times…Damn it. She’s still really bad. 🤣
@@DCeasedbrickbuilds Before your time or not, you said most insufferable ever written. Trust me, nobody being written today even comes close to several wartime characters intentionally written as caricatures.
@@DCeasedbrickbuilds Still can’t see how she’s nearly as bad as anybody from Marville, most characters in the Ultimate universe, half of the characters in either Civil War, etc.
I'mma be honest, the problem is its still kind've a hand-me-down character. She like miles will always be remembered as the Black version of X character as opposed to just their own thing like Static Shock. Interestingly the set-up you showed with her aspiring to be Tony Stark with the comic panels, I think that probably should have been taken in a different direction. A character aspiring to be like or outshine an existing character is fine, no, its perfect, a character rising up to be another hero or stronger is great. But she just.....copied Tony, that's kinda boring, maybe she could have taken a different spin on the technology outside of just using a suit. Maybe she could have taken a route of being a weapons expert in a different way to enhance her abilities to fight crime, maybe the name Iron-heart could have been literal with her purposely modifying her heart with some metal giving her powers, maybe nanobots or something, maybe a focus on weapons rather than armor? But just.....female Iron-man......really?
VPT2 I think you’ve got a decent point. I wouldn’t say it is something specific to characters like Riri as there are countless white characters that do very similar things (Guy Gardner, US Agent, Ant-Man 2 & 3), but I agree that a little more originality in power sets is nice.
I was very excited for the All New Marvel run of comics and meeting these new characters. I was a big fan of Avengers Academy and the Runaways and thought young characters were the future of Marvel. Something in the writing dramatically changed in the late 2010s however as I could no longer enjoy of the new stories. I eventually stopped buying comic books and I'm a lot happier for it.
I do not dislike a cherecter because of their gender race or colour, I dislike a cherecter when he/she shown as perfect he/she has no weakness they get everyone's love they are invisible they become master at every combat at their first try what they are doing is always right and who are against them are always wrong
Even as a brown boy the reason I like old superheroes because they have flaws they know they are not perfect they know that they are going make mistakes they also needed help sometimes
The last part surprised me what you said misogyny? Are you to those who doesn't liked Riri Williams are misogynist you should go to an mental asylum for a month
Bishal Malla I assume, then, you like Riri, who has multiple flaws and weaknesses, tries her best but doesn’t always succeed, has trouble making friends, and has been tricked into choosing the wrong side and felt guilt over it?
Her introdution was meh, And her character isn't as interesting as a character like Tony is. For me Riri is a less interesting Ironman replacement. Much like how Miles is a Less interesting Spider-man replacement.
Okay where was this support for Miles in the beginning? Cause I seem to remember vile racism for the character. On Riri, I think she's a great character and the idiotic bigots can go to hell(especially Doomcock) And on the subject of people of color taking the mantles from iconic heroes, I am still pissed off at how DC is continuously doing Cassandra Cain dirty. The ableist erasure in Birds Of Prey and the fucked up way they handled her in Young Justice. What kind of fucked up irrational hatred does WB have for her? Oh and don't even get me started on how the comics kept her as Orphan for a long time and refuseed to make her Batgirl again.
Dallas Kroyer They probably weren’t actually fans of Miles, but now that he’s famous enough, they don’t show their hand with him as much. I have no idea who that person is and with a name like that I am glad I don’t. The weird thing with Cassandra is she has such a dedicated fanbase that has been begging for her old status quo to return, but DC refused. I know Dan Didio, for some reason, had it out for both Cass and Steph, or anything that made Batman look older than 30.
If you don't like Riri, there are literally decades of other comics to read as well as new ones coming out. These hateful bigoted adults have to learn the existence of an option more appealing to other demographics doesn't negate the existence of their interests. And if not, they can die mad. Disney is not your friend. Stan Lee is dead. Robert Downey Jr is not going to know you exist let alone cheer as you disparage something intended to make children smile.
Right, a lot of them act like because they don't like a character or show or whatever that no one else should. They can just say it's not for them and go on to something else. RDJ has even said Riri should be introduced in the MCU when he was at an event that Eve Ewing was also at.
i attribute a lot of the hate as well to the tons of youtubers that do videos hating and saying shit about her that they don't even know since they do not read it, saying things like she's a poorly written mary sue narcissist who builds her character by attempting to destroy others, and should be better as a villain and a lot of people believe in this clickbait videos and say this without even reading one of her comics.
I mean if you like Riri that's okay! It's just for me she's just a flat character for me, mostly because there isn't really much of a reason for her to become an iron heart and to put on the mask. What drives her to become an iron heart? What motivates her? Tony (Or at least in the MCU I believe) was attacked by a terrorist group that used his own brand of weapons on him and other innocent people. He saw it as his fault which after escaping made him iron man. This phase of marvel comics just made a bunch of medicator and bland characters (Beside miles of course) and Riri (In my opinion) just happened to stick out like a sore thumb which is why so many people dislike her. It's kind of frustrating because miles and Riri were made by the same writer. However it is just my opinion and I am just some random stranger to you, but I am just saying why Riri is just a weak character
Its not irrational at all. She's written by one of the worst Marvel writers in modern history. She's literally the definition of Mary Sue. She has virtually no hardships or character flaws to overcome in terms of story telling. She's a narcissist. She's literally made, and, this is not a speculative statement, this is literally word-for-word what they have pitched to us... she is about "diversity and inclusion" which means she's not gonna be done well, like Kamala Khan.
CasuallyCompetitive I’m no fan of Bendis either, but if you think the character hasn’t changed since his relatively short run with her, you haven’t read many of her appearances. And even if you hate how she was pitched, look at Marvel’s Rom and Transformers storylines. Two of the most critically acclaimed runs and both started as nothing more than an attempt to sell children cheap plastic.
Father dies, only friend she had in the world dies, has to learn how to trust people, made the suit then got hit by a car, has to use Tony starks A.I as guidance. Wow what a void Mary sue character that you totally read and aren't just regurgitating something someone else said.
@@SipDeathTheKid You clearly don't understand what a Mary Sue is. It means she has no explanation or reasonable account as to how or why she is as good/powerful/smart as she is. She just is.
@@SipDeathTheKid I already explained what a marry sue is and how she falls into the category. If you dig her, or her stories, more power to ya, friend. But that doesn’t automatically mean it’s high quality. Just because you enjoy something doesn’t magically make it good. Don’t try and troll or think you have even an ounce of credibility or intellectual superiority here. She is a terribly written character, with terrible sales numbers, and that’s why she was cancelled.
I don't know, I still don't like Riri. but if you like the character Well, good for you, after all, Marvel is going to get more out of her. personally I like more moon girl bot That's just me. Thanks for the video.
Juan Bisono suero Well, as I said, everybody has characters they don’t find interesting. What I’m referencing is specifically hatred over incorrectly perceived slights. Not caring about a character and hating them are different things.
i hate it when people look only to hate, if that makes sense. people dont go into something expecting to like it. they go out of their way to find something they can use to rip something to shreads. sure riri had some really weird comics but so does spiderman,iron man and all these characters. its okay to be concerend theyll fuck it up(im very concerned about love and thunder being a comedy with gorr and all and mighty thor(who has cancer) but ill still watch it with the anticipation tho see something i actually like not starting the film with a magnifiing glass in one and my d#ck in the other hand trying to look for mistakes they made to rip everything to shreds. i get why people dont like certain characters and thats okay but saying something is automatically bad because said character is in it is just stupid
It's funny how you yourself fall into the same bag of hating just for hating, without understanding and only using xenophobic elements (because that's how Americans describe us Latinos not born in their country) so it's even confusing how everything developed
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I don't know why everybody has to immediately call it a race thing to criticize her, she's a poorly written mary sue narcissist who builds her character by attempting to destroy others'. If they had just made her her own character it would be fine, she just elicits hatred becuase she herself is so full of it yet she thinks herself perfect and justified. She would make a perfect villain, she feels like shes always doing the right thing no matter what it is or who she hurts to prove her superiority.
also, a funny little side note but I love that she was designed and named after a Japanize iron man porn parody cause this story feels like porno writing, just really not thought through realistically.
SpamorammA I question which comics you’ve been reading as there re multiple points where Riri questions whether her choices are correct and feels regret over her mistakes.
Also, the name Ironheart well predates either the comics or the parody. Ironheart is a name in Babylon 5, American Flagg comics, His Name is Nobody, Lone Wolf gamebooks, Kuroko’s Basketball, Arcadia, 009-1, and of course real world history as Chief Cantemaza of the Mniwakaƞ Oyate was known as Chief Ironheart in English.
you are literally describing tony stark
So tony stark? She’s as much of a Mary sue as tony is
Why am I not surprised in the slightest
This is the… weirdest defense I’ve seen about Riri. I’ve never seen anyone knock Riri because she’s black, though I’m sure it’s happened. Most criticism I’ve seen is because she’s a Mary Sue. From what I’ve seen of her, I’m not inclined to disagree. Now granted, you don’t have to LIKE a character, you just have to believe in them and their journey. Most people don’t really believe in the stuff she’s done, and it doesn’t help that she comes off as a villain most of the time.
SteelSpurs You must not like Tony Stark, then. Or Peter Parker. Or Thor. Or Hulk. If doing a bad thing because you were manipulated to do it, while you are a child, makes you not believe in them, how much more would you disbelieve in supposed heroes that, as adults, intentionally and without manipulation committed horrific acts?
@@MothsAudioandVideos Maybe all the examples you listed come off as organic storytelling devices (or retcons) instead of retcons just for the sake of a new character? Has Riri had substantial character growth to warrant the belief? All the others have decades of stories behind them. What does she have?
@@SteelSpurs You think suddenly making Tony Stark a fascist without any buildup or justification, and then reverting back to normal when they got bored with an out of nowhere memory reversal is organic?
Meanwhile, Riri was built up to be an incredibly intelligent but naive teenager who understandably falls to the influence of those who attempt to manipulate her, but eventually learns she was being manipulated and strives to correct her wrongdoings while helping others. And that’s less organic to you?
@@MothsAudioandVideos Because Tony Stark already has a foundational character, and that was a sort of flanderization of his worst aspects dialed up. He was horrible, but still at his core a character people liked and were intrigued to see the dark side of.
Riri doesn’t have that. She was built up as an annoying know-it-all. That’s not a bad character, mind you, but there wasn’t enough nuance to make you care. People aren’t invested in that. You know who else was a naive and intelligent teenager? Lo and behold, another person of color, Miles Morales, and people adore him. It isn’t hard to figure out why.
@@SteelSpurs What do you mean by not enough nuance, exactly?
I was actually talking with a pal of mine and while I'm not super into Naruto, people completely disregard Sakura bc when she was a little kid, she made a comment on Naruto being a orphan
yolanda castro That is a perfect example. Sakura said something very insensitive when she was a kid. Meanwhile, characters like Jiraiya get free passes for all of their many problems that TH-cam would delete my comment for mentioning.
I hate sakura because all she did was hit Naruto and fangirl over Sasuke while degrading Naruto despite her never doing anything of importance in the original series she just stands there while contributing very little it wasn’t until shippuden where she became a medic did she become relatively useful but still her obsession with a boy who wants nothing to do with her is just annoying, even when Sasuke tried to kill her she still liked him. Sasuke and Sakura’s relationship is extremely toxic even in boruto where Sasuke is rarely ever around for Sarada heck he even tried to kill her when they first met.
your comment just reminds me how sakura is one of the many characters with wasted potential on Naruto, the creator could have done a lot more with her and at the beginning of shippuden he did but forgot about a lot of her and others characters good stories and potential in the franchise.
I've seen idiots get offended by Jaime Reyes speaking in Spanglish saying that it's forcing his identity down their throats.
It is
Nicholas Rodinos But they’d never say Rogue ending every line with Sugar or Nightcrawler using gratuitous German is forcing their identity down their throats.
I've never heard of the term misogynoir before now.
There are a lot of people who only know MCU Riri, and I think that may explain why so many people hate her character. In the comics she has had character growth, that didn't happen in the MCU.
Yeah, it's fine if people don't like Riri, but it's so odd to hold this panel against her when it's a kid misunderstanding and talking about her idol. It's the vitriol that is thrown at Riri that's so over the top.
lizsha2 What most people do when they just don’t care for a character? Ignore them. This isn’t just dislike for these extreme fans, it’s hatred.
@@MothsAudioandVideos Exactly!
God I love this channel and your commentary so much! 🙏🏾 Thank you so much for sharing your stance on all these topics with us
Mr. Silence I’m happy to share, and thank you!
The Inhumans routinely commit acts of genocide and terrorism as the Terrigen Mist is fatal to both mutants and humans, despite there being safer alternatives for Terrigenesis, and they tried to kill the Scarlet Witch for making it non-lethal.
Marvel Fans: I see nothing wrong here.
Riri Williams doesn't understand social cues.
Marvel Fans: Guns and pitchforks ready boys.
Nicholas Rodinos Pretty much sums it up.
And another reason for her wanting a challenge is because she was a child super genius already if I'm not wrong from what I remember from the comic
Erick Yeah, she’s definitely very bright.
That’s exactly what the writers were having her do in the comics. It’s not a child that wrote this, so it’s not a child’s mindset that brought that train of thought up. Your defense of that is baseless there. It was clear race baiting and trying to drive an argument. And yes, She is a Mary Sue and it’s annoying. Like many other characters.
Nimbus You’re going to have to be more specific. This comment is clearly referring to something I said, but I said many things. What did I say specifically that upset you?
@@MothsAudioandVideos oh I’m not upset by any means. If they want to write a character like that then that’s their prerogative. However, stating it is anything other than what it clearly is warrants calling out. It is how they designed and not what you say. Doesn’t get any more clear cut than that bud.
@@TheNimbyV Again, I said lots of things, so I genuinely have no idea what you think I said that “warrants calling out.” If you think I said this was a literal child in the real world and not a fictional character written by adults, I’m going to need a citation, because I don’t think I did.
yall really know why all the hate.. stop acting like ppl don't know
Ant Pain The video is primarily for people unfamiliar with the comics, as they likely heard Riri will be in the MCU, and not knowing who she is, might try to find out about her and why she’s hated.
Of all the people who have a connection to Tony Stark, they had to go with someone who has the littlest connection to him as his successor. If I were in charge of the company, I would go with someone like his best friend, his wife, his daughter, or his protege, any one of those people would be a better hero and worthy successor than Riri would ever be. Who's nothing more than some petty thief who steals something that was never hers, to begin with, nor has she ever earned it, will also try to seek attention, hog up the spotlight, and act like she is better than everyone, just like a spoiled brat. Honestly, Peter or Morgan should have been Iron Man's true successor instead of someone like Riri.
MagnaKnight You didn’t watch the video any more than you read the comics, did you?
@@MothsAudioandVideos You are wrong.
@@magnaknight9252 Then you’ve certainly confused me with your statement that seems at odds with both the video and the comics, and is instead a mash of oft-repeated but not supported lines about Riri mixed with the MCU which doesn’t even feature Riri yet.
@@MothsAudioandVideos Congratulations you’re a Storm Trooper for the Empire.
@@magnaknight9252 Are you using a bad translator or something? Or are you just trying to waste both of our times?
Well because she’s a bad character with terrible writing
Late, but, it’s not irrational. She’s the most insufferable character ever written in Marvel Comics.
DCeased Brick Fan You’ve got to be either kidding or unaware of the long catalogue of intolerable Marvel characters. The 40s? The 90s? Even if you hate Riri, there are much worse characters.
@@MothsAudioandVideos the 40s was before my time. The 90s(especially mid to late) had some rough ones, but, not as high profile. Ok, Scott Summers has definitely given her a solid 2nd a few times…Damn it. She’s still really bad. 🤣
@@DCeasedbrickbuilds Before your time or not, you said most insufferable ever written. Trust me, nobody being written today even comes close to several wartime characters intentionally written as caricatures.
@@MothsAudioandVideos Sooooo, she’s the most insufferable character written during the modern era? Ok, got it.
@@DCeasedbrickbuilds Still can’t see how she’s nearly as bad as anybody from Marville, most characters in the Ultimate universe, half of the characters in either Civil War, etc.
I'mma be honest, the problem is its still kind've a hand-me-down character. She like miles will always be remembered as the Black version of X character as opposed to just their own thing like Static Shock. Interestingly the set-up you showed with her aspiring to be Tony Stark with the comic panels, I think that probably should have been taken in a different direction.
A character aspiring to be like or outshine an existing character is fine, no, its perfect, a character rising up to be another hero or stronger is great. But she just.....copied Tony, that's kinda boring, maybe she could have taken a different spin on the technology outside of just using a suit. Maybe she could have taken a route of being a weapons expert in a different way to enhance her abilities to fight crime, maybe the name Iron-heart could have been literal with her purposely modifying her heart with some metal giving her powers, maybe nanobots or something, maybe a focus on weapons rather than armor? But just.....female Iron-man......really?
VPT2 I think you’ve got a decent point. I wouldn’t say it is something specific to characters like Riri as there are countless white characters that do very similar things (Guy Gardner, US Agent, Ant-Man 2 & 3), but I agree that a little more originality in power sets is nice.
Mikes is only remembered that way because you CHOOSE to remember him that way. The problem isn’t the character. It’s YOU.
Thanks man, you got me all choked up and stuff with you super well said defense of her and explanation for the all the hate. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
She's determined that's what I like
I was very excited for the All New Marvel run of comics and meeting these new characters. I was a big fan of Avengers Academy and the Runaways and thought young characters were the future of Marvel. Something in the writing dramatically changed in the late 2010s however as I could no longer enjoy of the new stories. I eventually stopped buying comic books and I'm a lot happier for it.
I do not dislike a cherecter because of their gender race or colour, I dislike a cherecter when he/she shown as perfect he/she has no weakness they get everyone's love they are invisible they become master at every combat at their first try what they are doing is always right and who are against them are always wrong
Even as a brown boy the reason I like old superheroes because they have flaws they know they are not perfect they know that they are going make mistakes they also needed help sometimes
The last part surprised me what you said misogyny? Are you to those who doesn't liked Riri Williams are misogynist you should go to an mental asylum for a month
Bishal Malla I assume, then, you like Riri, who has multiple flaws and weaknesses, tries her best but doesn’t always succeed, has trouble making friends, and has been tricked into choosing the wrong side and felt guilt over it?
Her introdution was meh, And her character isn't as interesting as a character like Tony is.
For me Riri is a less interesting Ironman replacement.
Much like how Miles is a Less interesting Spider-man replacement.
Okay where was this support for Miles in the beginning? Cause I seem to remember vile racism for the character.
On Riri, I think she's a great character and the idiotic bigots can go to hell(especially Doomcock)
And on the subject of people of color taking the mantles from iconic heroes, I am still pissed off at how DC is continuously doing Cassandra Cain dirty. The ableist erasure in Birds Of Prey and the fucked up way they handled her in Young Justice. What kind of fucked up irrational hatred does WB have for her? Oh and don't even get me started on how the comics kept her as Orphan for a long time and refuseed to make her Batgirl again.
Dallas Kroyer They probably weren’t actually fans of Miles, but now that he’s famous enough, they don’t show their hand with him as much.
I have no idea who that person is and with a name like that I am glad I don’t.
The weird thing with Cassandra is she has such a dedicated fanbase that has been begging for her old status quo to return, but DC refused. I know Dan Didio, for some reason, had it out for both Cass and Steph, or anything that made Batman look older than 30.
2:39 that is Bart Allen not Wally
Juan Bisono suero Nice catch, although my point still stands for both of them.
If you don't like Riri, there are literally decades of other comics to read as well as new ones coming out.
These hateful bigoted adults have to learn the existence of an option more appealing to other demographics doesn't negate the existence of their interests.
And if not, they can die mad. Disney is not your friend. Stan Lee is dead. Robert Downey Jr is not going to know you exist let alone cheer as you disparage something intended to make children smile.
Right, a lot of them act like because they don't like a character or show or whatever that no one else should. They can just say it's not for them and go on to something else.
RDJ has even said Riri should be introduced in the MCU when he was at an event that Eve Ewing was also at.
IrishMorgenstern Plus Stan Lee and RDJ were both advocates for Riri, as far as I recall. Not that these people actually care.
Bigotry? It's not that people dislike her because if her race. By your logic, no one would like Storm, but she's a black woman and everyone likes her.
i attribute a lot of the hate as well to the tons of youtubers that do videos hating and saying shit about her that they don't even know since they do not read it, saying things like she's a poorly written mary sue narcissist who builds her character by attempting to destroy others, and should be better as a villain and a lot of people believe in this clickbait videos and say this without even reading one of her comics.
Let me guess. Does it have something to do with… RACISM?
I mean if you like Riri that's okay! It's just for me she's just a flat character for me, mostly because there isn't really much of a reason for her to become an iron heart and to put on the mask. What drives her to become an iron heart? What motivates her? Tony (Or at least in the MCU I believe) was attacked by a terrorist group that used his own brand of weapons on him and other innocent people. He saw it as his fault which after escaping made him iron man.
This phase of marvel comics just made a bunch of medicator and bland characters (Beside miles of course) and Riri (In my opinion) just happened to stick out like a sore thumb which is why so many people dislike her. It's kind of frustrating because miles and Riri were made by the same writer. However it is just my opinion and I am just some random stranger to you, but I am just saying why Riri is just a weak character
Its not irrational at all. She's written by one of the worst Marvel writers in modern history. She's literally the definition of Mary Sue. She has virtually no hardships or character flaws to overcome in terms of story telling. She's a narcissist. She's literally made, and, this is not a speculative statement, this is literally word-for-word what they have pitched to us... she is about "diversity and inclusion" which means she's not gonna be done well, like Kamala Khan.
CasuallyCompetitive I’m no fan of Bendis either, but if you think the character hasn’t changed since his relatively short run with her, you haven’t read many of her appearances. And even if you hate how she was pitched, look at Marvel’s Rom and Transformers storylines. Two of the most critically acclaimed runs and both started as nothing more than an attempt to sell children cheap plastic.
Father dies, only friend she had in the world dies, has to learn how to trust people, made the suit then got hit by a car, has to use Tony starks A.I as guidance. Wow what a void Mary sue character that you totally read and aren't just regurgitating something someone else said.
@@SipDeathTheKid You clearly don't understand what a Mary Sue is. It means she has no explanation or reasonable account as to how or why she is as good/powerful/smart as she is.
She just is.
@@MaverickHunterJustin literally Google what a mary sue is and see if your argument makes sense based off what I just said.
@@SipDeathTheKid I already explained what a marry sue is and how she falls into the category.
If you dig her, or her stories, more power to ya, friend. But that doesn’t automatically mean it’s high quality. Just because you enjoy something doesn’t magically make it good.
Don’t try and troll or think you have even an ounce of credibility or intellectual superiority here.
She is a terribly written character, with terrible sales numbers, and that’s why she was cancelled.
Give out a content warning next time, when you said she asked her teacher to give her a challenge, I had a heart attack and exploded forever.
I don't know, I still don't like Riri. but if you like the character Well, good for you, after all, Marvel is going to get more out of her. personally I like more moon girl bot That's just me. Thanks for the video.
Juan Bisono suero Well, as I said, everybody has characters they don’t find interesting. What I’m referencing is specifically hatred over incorrectly perceived slights. Not caring about a character and hating them are different things.
Great report. Thanks for being a straight shooter.
peak wokeness.
Cringe asf
i hate it when people look only to hate, if that makes sense. people dont go into something expecting to like it. they go out of their way to find something they can use to rip something to shreads. sure riri had some really weird comics but so does spiderman,iron man and all these characters. its okay to be concerend theyll fuck it up(im very concerned about love and thunder being a comedy with gorr and all and mighty thor(who has cancer) but ill still watch it with the anticipation tho see something i actually like not starting the film with a magnifiing glass in one and my d#ck in the other hand trying to look for mistakes they made to rip everything to shreds. i get why people dont like certain characters and thats okay but saying something is automatically bad because said character is in it is just stupid
It's funny how you yourself fall into the same bag of hating just for hating, without understanding and only using xenophobic elements (because that's how Americans describe us Latinos not born in their country) so it's even confusing how everything developed
This.is.a.really.good.video.thank.u.so.much