I have Xiaomi Pro 1st gen with 13s battery and I have these weird noises at about 34-36 kmh, if I exceed it, the weird noise will disappear. Also is good to have engine braking at minimum current (I have 8A at max).I replaced the mosfets for maybe 10 times just because of strong braking or braking with full battery. Also is good to have another fuse (for example I use car fuses), so if you burn two mosfets, it will go to short circuit and trust me - you really dont want to replace fuse in original battery. About real currents (measured right from battery): 27A at max - mosfets burned after 80 km and 350W Pro engine gets really hot after 3 km ride. 22A - my current sport mode (13S 54V full charge), did not burn mosfets yet, really powerfull, 42kmh and engine gets hot after about 10km, so it is usable 18A - my current D mode, 37kmh, engine never got really hot Maybe it will help someone
Hi mate. Huge thank you! This is such a valuable comment. Great idea with the fuse. I have also seen people installing cooling fans. I am pinning your comment to the top. Myself, trying another controller. It is obviously the weak link when overvolting the m365.
@@VRMinde Hi, i have been wanting to do the mod you did in this video but because i want to make sure my pro2 last a really really long time since i live around hilly terrain. But before i do this, i have a few questions and maybe suggestions. Firstly, i think that the pro2 motherboard might have better components on it. So maybe it is a better 500W motor match? Secondly. Is it true that the scooter will act mostly as with a 350W motor if i was to install a 500W motor but i leave all other firmware settings as default for my xiaomi pro2? The weight would be slightly different i think, but in general is what i am asking. My goal is to make sure my motor will never break, since i use it quite a lot where i live. I ran mine for about 243km the last 30 days until a mosfet broke upon breaking downhill with full battery. There need to be an even better way for these scooter controllers to last. I CAN resolder mosfets, but the question is.... Do i/we really wanna?! I already added extra pressure and extra thermal paste to allow for better mosfet cooling. It seem to have worked well so far. But this is still not a solution that will last 🤔
@@CYellowan hi, as you see yourself, first weakest part is the ecu. So you need to choose and fit the right controller. Afterwards you need to see how hot your motor gets. If you need a fast reliable scooter - there are factory-made solutions that will end up cheaper then changing almost all parts on m365 pro 2 :) If you are ok with speed of about 40km/h - your 350w motor should last (unless you climb hills on full power all the time). Now this 500w is not even original monorim, it is a knock off and I don’t know how long it will last. I am testing it now with expensive aftermarket controller that can go up to 4kw… will see how that goes :) One sure way to prolong life of m365 controller is disconnect any ebraking and mount double disc brakes instead.
@@VRMinde got a pro2, want to ride it uphill, rita and external battery is the best way? also about vibrations, i think its the resonance the motor gets, it depends of a lot of factors, tyres, weight, others, fill the bar with foam or other filler, that can solve partially the problem and the plastic trim over the fork need to be checked, cleaned, some plastics trimmed, helped me on pro2, the tyre does the most noise, but it's not the only factor.
@@lion555ify two motors is a good way for going uphill, but yes, you need at least 12s pack for sure. Rita is plug and play+you can see all battery data in app/on dashboard. You can take out the stock pack and just use a 12s, but you will have to disable bms data and you will not see charge level etc on dash/apps
Nah mate I am not sure. I wish I had more time for these projects as they are fun, but I have not been seriously modding any bike/scooter for a while. I spend a lot of time on my boat work now..
I’m looking to add two 36v 500w motors to my hover-1 alpha that I’m customizing. It’s my first build and I’m a bit nervous. Can I run two motors at 36v on the stock battery and just upgrade it with a pack? Or should I upgrade everything and get 48-60v and run dual 48v-60v 500-1000w ? So many choices. Obviously I’ll have to upgrade the controllers and modify a bit but it’s mostly bolt on and go. Any thoughts?
Did you run the battery pack in parrell so keeping the 36v or did you seties doubling the voltage I also got a replacement controller and the speedo was waaaayyyy out. Reinforce the shunts and replace the large capacitor
Hey man I currently have a Pro with only stock parts. I am actually not interested in making it go faster than the default 25, but when I ride uphill (even with a full battery) it just seems to lack the power to go faster than about 10, and if the battery isn’t at least at 80% it will stop altogether. Do you think a 500W motor could fix that? Would I need other modifications such as custom firmware or a different controller as well? If it could keep powering uphill at a steady >15km/h I would be really happy. Cheers for the great vid 😄
Hey, if you customize the firmware - you will let more current to run through your existing motor, so it should climb a bit better (at the cost of more power consumed + heat created + longevity a bit reduced). The next “bottleneck” will be battery. And only then the motor. Changing only the motor will do no good :)
@@VRMinde Thanks so much for answering, that's exactly what I needed to know! I guess step one is finding out how to flash my firmware with only Apple devices, it looks like all tools are Android or Windows only... And I'll have to downgrade the firmware first no doubt. A battery upgrade sounds worthwhile but it looks like adding an extra battery gets quite expensive to the point where buying a different scooter might make more sense.
@@ecco256 sounds like you figured it all out :) I have not been playing with firmware of m365 now for a few years so I simply lost track of the ways to rewrite it. Try some simple firmware change and if it is not working out - just get more powerful scoot that runs more volts :)
Hey man i have a question. What happens with regen braking or braking from the motor normally when a series battery is connected to the system? For example 3s. In total 54.6v max charge but can you explain like are the voltages separated or smth? Is there a risk? Im asking for Xiaomi pro 2 model. Appreciate what you are doing and helping the world out there!!
Do you mean you have a10s battery pack and then connect extra 3s in series to that pack? First of all I would never do this myself (unless some emergency), because there are risks of both damaging the batteries but also burning it all down. Your key problem would be - capacity. The batteries need to be of exactly the same capacity which is nearly impossible to achieve. If capacity is not even, when you just charge (with the higher voltage) or reverse charge from the regen braking - your smaller capacity pack might stop accepting charge as it is full and then you will burn the other battery pack. Same with discharging, one pack might start charging the other one while having voltage drawn from it. Watch this dude th-cam.com/video/HhxyHqAtDzU/w-d-xo.html
@@VRMinde So the internal battery pack is 12800mah 42v and my 12.6v pack is 12800mah too. Bms of the 12.6v battery can output same amperage as internal and also it has 1 port for charge and discharge so when i brake it can accept charge. Also ive calculated all the batteries in my 12.6v pack to be as close in mah as possible and its getting in 12800 mah and on full charge my 12.6v and my internal battery have like 70mah difference.
@@jbl_lover_fan_opex_ Well, it sounds like you have made a decision. It can work, just all the hassle :D Stupid question: why do you want to use regen at all? I disconnect it on all scooters when possible. If you drive around smart, lift the throttle, and coast earlier you won't lose much energy at all. But avoid all the risks on ECUs and batteries at the same time.
@@VRMinde i have regen on 4 amps so its barely noticeable but i dont have a problem to remove it completely. The problem is when i brake the electric brake on the front motor which i lower the amps too engages anyway so it charges both batteries but is it safe to charge like this in series? Thats what i mean :)
When you say you put the 500W motor with a 12s battery did you use an external 12s and the internal or just a 12s internal? thinking of sticking a 500W on my Pro 2 🤔
500W and 12 battery combination looks really a huge boost. I wonder is it legal this kind of modification and what would be life span of xiomi itself. Anyways don't teach the younger ones and great content as always! Cheers! :)
It is legal if you limit the speed to 20 or 25 depending on the country. I don’t think it is a big issue in your homeland. When I will get a controller replacement I will try to limit the current and hope that it will last longer than 1min this time 😂 getting a scooter built for higher speed is probably a cheaper, safer and more reliable way to go. Thanks bro and hope you are doing well 🙌
Hey mate.. great and very helpful comparison. I have new 365PRO and my battery overheats while I m driving back to home from work. I drive almost 10km uphill. It s small but constatnt incline and I have 100kg :) . Battery temp reach 53,54 degrees and Scooter turns off. Do u think that I will resolve this problem if I add larger battery something like Monorim B2 battery 48v 14.4ah? What do you think?
If your battery is overheating it means you are drawing more current than the battery can give/was built to give. This is actually surprising to me as normally ECU is the first part to overheat on the M365. I will assume you flashed custom firmware with many watts on it :) If you add a 48V battery, you will get the same watts with drawing less current, it should definitely help with the battery overheat issue. But you have to lower those amps then :D And most likely ECU will start overheating as the next thing .
@@VRMinde Woow tnx for quick response. Hmm.. quite strange because I am not using any firmware except factory software BMS 0126, ESC 0166, BLE 0110.. I am probably rare among us that don t like too much speed on this toy :)) Should I check and even change ECU before spend fortune on bigger battery? :)
@@branislavspasic3475 I don't know. I have never had an original pro ECU, legends say they last better :D But it is weird then that your battery is overheating
hi mate good job. if you could answer my questions i would be so happy. - i bought that engine but i am not seeking for speed. I am about more torque. I have to climb high hill during my journey to my home everday. 350w engine is not enough for that. * if use it with stock battery (i have xiaomi pro 2 scooter), will it be safe for my controller? I guess stock battery has 40v but engine has 48v? * ı am not gonna change the firmware, so it can't go faster than 25 kmh? * Stock battery has 12400 mah, if put 40000 mah instead of stock battery and 40v, can i get more range? * if i put 48v battery, it will go faster than 25 kmh even if i dont change the firmware? Thanks mate.
Hi mate: - If you use it with stock everything nothing bad will happen to your controller or battery or anything - if you not changing firmware it will stay at the same speed. Higher voltage battery won’t work without changing firmware - if you use larger capacity but same voltage battery ot will have more range
I’m looking to add two 36v 500w motors to my hover-1 alpha that I’m customizing. It’s my first build and I’m a bit nervous. Can I run two motors at 36v on the stock battery and just upgrade it with a pack? Or should I upgrade everything and get 48-60v and run dual 48v-60v 500-1000w ? So many choices. Obviously I’ll have to upgrade the controllers and modify a bit but it’s mostly bolt on and go. Any thoughts?
Normally, upgrading with dual motors and changing voltage up dramatically will require to change basically everything and is more expensive than buying a ready-made scooter :) But it is always possible... depends how much time you want to spend on this :D It looks "easy" but tiny little details eat up the most time. Adding second motor (and ecu) at 36v is potentially easier way, you will feel a boost of power of course, but as you say you will need to add capacity of the pack as well. No one can tell you what to do mate, it is your decision :)
Was this test with stock controller? Iv got the 48v pack and a v3 controller and I’m looking to get the 500w hub but if it won’t reach 30mph I will just invest into something else
stock controller and 12s battery pack (it would be a "44V pack"). I reach 50km/h (31mph) at about 1500W. So if your 13s pack is fully charged you will have ~54V. You will need about 30 amps at that voltage to get 1500W.
I assume you are not on stock firmware? What battery pack are you using? You could send more amps/power to the motor. And you might want to be careful with regen braking - set it from none to low to avoid controller damage
yooo bro! nice video! i got now a pro 2 (32kmpu (brake lever) firmware) today i changed the front tire and now it makes the same sound as youre motor heheh... what should i upgrade for more speed pls help me out bro (stock pro2)
@branimir bankov Was claiming 2 weeks ago, that m365 pro does 42km/h +. I personally do not believe it :D I think 32km/h is a decent speed for a 10s (36v) battery pack. You can try adding more amps on the firmware and hope it will go a bit faster. The next thing to get more speed is a higher voltage battery pack. I think you can use a 13s (48v) pack with the stock controller if you are careful and do not overheat it too much. Eventually, you will burn the controller. Then you go for the more powerful controller, and then - motor, after it - two motors :D
Ive got my monorim motor it rides a bit swoother i dont think you need the pro dash i done it with hack its going about 31km now but the wheel hits back of mud guard.its ok when i pull it up a bit.ive ordered a 48v batery 100ah will that work on stock controler.???
yes, you can, I am not sure how much effect you will get though. I tried stock VS fake Monorim 500w one and there was not a lot riding difference at all
No “immediate” damage, but you have to change the voltage settings in the firmware of course. Watch out for how many amps you gona push and for how long. If you gonna go max throttle for 5mins non-stop, you can overheat and burn the controller
Hi bro i have ordered the 48v battery to fit in my scooter pricy😢 just wanted to ask you can i add a external range battery with this at all thank you i no your the man to ask 💯🙏
Hi I have 48 v battery from my bike and I trying to add it in my scooter m365 I add only 48 volt battery and when I turn on scooter beeping I change the firmware to 48 v remove charging mode and keep beeping stock controller can’t work with other battery -bms? Thanks mate I wait your answer
What error code is it beeping? The problem is that your battery pack is not "communicating" with the controller. There is a github that describes the programming and the hardware behind, so you can make a custom BMS to work with the stock controller. But if you have 0 coding or electronics experience - it will be hard to understand. Next two options: 1 purchasing Rita - that will do the trick, or 2. just replace the controller to an aftermarket one.
I have m365 with 2nd gen 500w pro motor from aliexpress. With just the stock 10s battery it reaches 40kmh on a full charge. 35kmh is possible down to 30% battery charge
Hallo i kindly as for your help , i have i pro 2 with 36v 24.4ah ( stock and external ) custom firmware with stock motor 950 watts pick with no problem . I am thinking about the monorim 500 w motor but i dont know what is the safe limit for watts , i ask monorim and i didnt get an answer . Normali with motors tere is the naminal power and pick is x2 , is that the case with monorim ? Can i set the pick to 1000 watts or more ? If iis only 1000 will i see a difrence between stock motor to 950 watts and monorim ? Many tnanks in advance . Keep up the good work
Hi mate, I doubt you will see a diference between the pro 2 stock motor and the 500w aftermarket one. The more wats - the more heat. At some point your motor will burn if you give it too much power for too long. I ran 2200w on a 500w motor, but for short bursts only
@@VRMinde thank you very much for the answer . I am cosidering the 500 w motor not to put more watts than te 950 that i have now but in terms of heeting . Is there a chance tat the 500 w motor with 950 watts heats less than te stock pro 2 motor ?
The extension cords are the same color, or at least two of them 🙄 it goes yellow/green/blue (the extensions). Try gently. If you get it wrong it will either spin the wrong way/won’t spin/make weird noise :)
@@VRMinde Its work. Im happy again 😃Thank You for advise. Now i need max save performace settings for new configuratiin. Do You have some testet settings to meke custom firmware with stock battery ?
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Answer is always “it depends”. The motor can take more than 500w for a short period of time, probably you can run it for couple minutes at 2kw 🙄 2000w/36V = 55.6Amps. If you try that - the stock battery will not provide it and very likely die :) When it is stock, bottle necks go in this sequence: controller, battery, motor. You have an improved controller so probably your bottle-neck will be the stock battery pack now. I am not sure it likes more than 15-20 amps.. I do not even remember if 20 is already too much 🙄
Hi mate happy with your advice I'm going to order a 52v battery it has bms but no Bluetooth will that matter and will I have to take the original battery out as the one im getting will only fit on top in the battery bag oh and it's 20ah will that matter?? Its called stealth bomber just need advice before getting it thank you for the help👌💯
I normally use BT on BMS to set it up once. If it comes pre-setup or you can connect in any other way it is not really that needed... You won't be able to run the original and 52v batteries together unless you use something like Rita adapter e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/accessories/rita-adapter-for-xiaomi/@@ianwhittingham709
Hey i have a question I Want to put a 350 watt motor on my Xiaomi 1s. Can i just do it like just take the Old 250 watt off and put the 350 watt on? Or is there something i need to change with the batteri or some checking i need to do with the batteri before i do it or Can my normal Xiaomi 1s batteri get a 350 watt motor on it without any problems? And i have the newer Xiaomi 1s B.L.E 1.5.7 version.
You can put the 350w motor just straight replacement, but you won’t feel any difference. What you need is different battery to get more speed/acceleraton and then different firmware flashed
Hmmm, you can try pushing the power (amps) up, but the controller will eventually burn. Speed comes easiest from higher voltage 🙄 I got this going at 50kmh with a 14s (52V) battery pack
@@VRMindedon't think so. Jumps from 26 to red 31 then back to increased speed like 27. I'm thinking over volt or program error maybe. To be expected when you're working within limits :)
@@VRMinde ah yeah a european re seller makes upgrade kits with these for 450 euro i think including the battery motor controller and interface if im correct
@@johansturesson6128 sorry i cant find it anymore it was a spanish monorim retailer that made the kit if i remebee that came with a controller bigger battery and motor
Hello sir. What is the differences of speed battery and range battery? Is it gonna affect also the controller of the scooter if I will add a bigger battery for my scooter?
Range is the same voltage, more capacity (mah). Speed is more voltage, despite the capacity. Depends what is “bigger” - if it is only capacity - stock controller will work. If it is more voltage than 12s pack - you will have to at least modify the controller. 12s (max 50.4v fully charged) you can still use the stock controller
@@VRMinde thank you sir. My scooter is copy only of gmax and I have done a lot of modification.my scoot max speed is 30kmh.i just want to atleast add a little bit more of speed maybe 40-45kmh.do you think I will add a speed battery.
@@cesarpingaronjr2914 from 30 to 45 is not “a bit” it is a lot to add :) you will definitely need a higher voltage battery, at least 14s/48v, meaning a new controller as well. Be sure to have good brakes and do not forget F=m*v^2 :) (force equals mass multiplied by speed squared, or in other words - speed adds a lot to when there is an impact)
@@VRMinde my scooter specs is 36V 15ah nominal voltage36 VDC max. Hub motor is 300watts. Can you advice me sir what kind of controller and how much battery i will add for it just to reach the speed that i want. I learning a lot from you right now honestly ☺️☺️☺️. Thank you very much 🙏🙏🙏
@@cesarpingaronjr2914 I can’t advice you a specific controller. To reach speeds of 50km/h you will need at least 1000w 🙄 so think of 14s (48v) battery pack and 20-25a controller. Motor might survive for a while, but at the end you will replace it as well. Overall it is cheaper to buy a faster scooter than to upgrade the one you have, just saying :)
Hello, I was wondering if I buy the Rita adapter from Denis yurev and I add a 12s 44,4v and the stock battery. Is there any issue with adding a 350w or 500w to it ? Do I have to do something specific to the software
If you only use 12s pack but do not need to use your stock pack - you don’t need any Rita. BTW Rita is rated for 30amps input, a bit more and fuse will burn
@@meco3215 similar as with the stock motor. The motor is not a bottleneck on a stock scooter. If you want more speed and power first thing to upgrade is the battery pack
i got my xiaomi pro 2 custom with a 52v 25amps controller and an 52v battery with a stock 36v 300w motor and top speed of 45kmh.but my motor takes up to heat fast and it burns out..Will a monorim 500w motor will better for me or it will heat even worst than the stock one?
It should be able to take more punishment. But 52V X 25amps = 1300W. You should not expect a 300W or even a 500W motor to be able to run all those wats for long without getting warm :)
You cannot connect two different voltage batteries together neither in series nor parallel. Unless you use the "Rita" device (e-scooters.embedden.com/)
speed is so low :( But acceleration not bad. 350w motor can 42 km/h at 42v(36) Speed 40-50 comfortable and this is the maximum possible speed without losing control. Better wheels is pneumatic cst 2.25 and 3.0
This motor is rated for 48V, so fully charged 54.6. I think I can run this motor even on 58V, then it will go fast. Honestly, I don’t need more than 35km/h on my scooter :) But we will see how it goes on 14s battery and with a 4kw controller. Got my controller yesterday, will begin building soon!
@@rocketrhys2676 I have tested it now for 5mins. 35amps gave me 42km/h on gps. Will continue testing, the only problem is the rain. It’s forecasted until Monday. Hopefully I can film and edit by the end of next week
I have this motor coming on delivery. It's a 10x125inch wheel. Is this adequate for the m365 as I only realised the size afterwards? I dobt suppose anyone would know?
Oh I believe so. What controller do you use though? I am a bit hesitant to take the Phaserunner from my ebike with 14s pack, but I might do it for an experiment :)
it refers to the battery construction. Batteries are not "36V" or "48V", because the battery voltage changes as you charge - discharge it. 36V is a 10s battery pack, meaning it has 10 cells connected in Series. 1cell voltage is 3.1-4.2V and "on 50% charge" is 3.6V.
Hi mate, It does not matter if it was “pro” or any other version because to reach 70+ you will need a completely different battery pack (probably 72V) as well as a controller. And second: I would not drive 70km/h on a scooter like this with 10” tires and shitty brakes. I have my ebike for speeds like this :)
Hey i think you are good in this.. I have 48V battery (13s) with controller reinforced 140A mosfets.. 350W motor ... CFW set to 25A current limit 65A... It spins 35km/h ... whats the case ? . On 36V battery i spinned 35KM/h...
Hi, That’s weird 🙄 54.5Vx65A=3.5kw 😳 at 2kw I reach 50km/h on my m365. But I used the aftermarket 500w motor and ECU with field weakening. I am confident the 350w motor should run faster. There is something limiting your rpms or voltage. Firmware? There is definitely the “hard limit of 35km/h” in firmware. Is it even possible to really remove it? Any chance you can try another ECU? Not the stock one?
@@VRMinde I have Flipsky 71500 ? 75_300_R2 but yeah .. when i try power on XT60 plug it just burn my connector.. so ... There might be case that i have InternalBattery(Disabled BMS communicaton ?) and ESC doesn't know how operate voltage ? i flashed 23A with 65A current... i mean it spins 37-38 ? idk whats wrong
@@xtracker904 just thinking basically: you should always get more RPMs with more voltage on the same motor. Unless there is something limiting it. I can only think of ECU 🙄
@@xtracker904 you said you had max amps at 65A? Power is measured by watts. P=UxI where P is power (W), U voltage (V), I current (A). Even if you keep 25A on a fully charged 13s it is more than 1300W. That is enough to go faster than 35km/h. One or another way your controller is limiting the speed, I think. I can’t now think of anything else mate
Good for you mate! I have already tried many scooters, 33km/h was the most I could ever get out of a 36v battery pack, and that was probably a bit downhill and for 1sec 😂
I have upgraded motherboard and 500w moter I have tried using it and have no power I haven't used the new motherboard yet still on the old one and standard battery need help mens thanks
I'm going to prepare my M365 PRO for the engine upgrade with this 500W. If I stay with the original software and standard battery - Will I get more torque?
If you want to feel more anything - replace the battery first. The torq difference will be negligible unless you climb hills all day long :) I would still go with a battery upgrade though
@@VRMinde my original m365 has a voltage sag to 34v when fulla charged and drawing 30A so can confirm battery upgrade is imo the first thing to upgrade
Hello Mate, great video as always, sorry to hear about your controller, if your able to get hold of the V3 stock controller that will do you just good, no need to change mosfets on that,since I last commented on your previous video clip on your Dual motor video clip, I have now gone 13s3p 14.4ah internal alongside my 13s4p 20ah external battery ,Rita adapter for BMS emulation great with the 500w monorim motor, I have no issues and have pushed some good speeds so far and have done alot miles on the same controller, 900+ miles so far, I havent changed my firmware for along while as i'm currently comfortable with the firmware I created
Great to hear that v3 is lasting mate! I can’t find them to buy and they are also quite expensive! Tried 2 aftermarket controllers, something got damaged again :) don’t want to even open them and check one more time. Working now on 14s5p and 500w (knockoff) Monorim motor. 2.2kw today, 52km/h :) motor getting a bit on the warm side if I push it hard. Probably will stick to a single motor setup for now. Gonna make myself another battery, maybe 16s, will see. Thanks for watching and commenting bro!
hi i want to install this motor on my scooter for the extra torc will it install as i cannot change my firm ware can i plug this motor in and will it work as normal
It should just work man, I am not sure how much torq will you notice. I would first go with bigger voltage battery (but then you will need to change firmware/controller)
@@VRMinde just another question if you don't mind bro if I was to change my original battery for a higher amp 1eg. 7.8 amp that I have now to say 15 amps will I have to still change the controller please 🙏
@@Motorizedstuff you won’t get more acceleration mate with 500w motor or it will be a very small difference. Amps are controlled by controller, voltage depends on battery. Power=volts x amps. Your controller most likely is limiting max amps. So you could get higher voltage battery, but if you don’t know what you are doing - you can burn the controller easy :)
I wish I would have seen this video befor my upgrade :)) ..Or I have seen it but I did not read the comments also... I Think I just burned my controller :) ..and I was so happy with the 35km /h. :) I upgraded the controller to monorim 48v and also battery to 48v (13s3p). I kept the original 250W (36V) motor. Accelerations was nice , speed enough for me, but it happen exactly like in your case ....at a moment display went off and will not power on again. I disconnected the battery , display turned on , but after few meters (I can feel it put power definitely ) display turn of and scooter stops abruptly. I wish I would not activate regen brake :) ... also I use minirobot app for settings and remove speed limit ...Guys, do you think there is a chance to repair my controller ? is it burned if it can deliver power / curent for few meters ? :) Should I buy another controller monorim , or better a bike controller that definitely can handle 500W as is rated ? this monorim is super tiny !!! I dubt can handle 20A as is written on it (48Vx 20A = ~ 1000W ..confusing ) . My bike controller that can handle 25A is 4 time bigger ... maybe is a better idea to buy a real controller (bike one) but then I have to install it outside .... and then maybe I have to upgrade also the motor to 500W :))) ... so only the frame remains ... as one guy said here...better buy from beginning a powerful scooter:)))) . actually I was pretty happy that with only 200 eur I upgraded my scooter to be zippier and faster.... only if I would know to deactivate regen brake :)) ...
Happens with upgrades :) lessons learnt :) You most likely can repair the controller, depending what burned. But to be honest I failed so many times trying to repair/identify what was defected…
i mean i currently have the m365 the european white but like am thinking to upgrade it w prob an extra battery, the monorim motor some suspensions and yeah but i dont know if i would need to get a better controller to support the 48v
@@m1rage-2000 That is what am I saying, if you need battery, motor, suspension and controller - you will spend more than a new scooter costs, put hours of work and still have m365. While they are great scooters, but the world moved on... My m365 with all the mods, double motors, double disc brakes, double suspension etc. is much less enjoyable to ride than a 400eur kukirin G2... Unless you really want to spend time building and not riding :)
I wish I could understand this motor does not support a regular tire and inner tube :-( :-( -- I bought this same motor after seeing your video, and it really has more torque with the same battery and firmware, it is amazing.
@@VRMinde Seems the original monorim motor is also only for solid tires :-( -- seems there is no such 500W powerful motor for M365 that is also for inflatable tires.
hi I have a stock pro 2 but have hacked firmware too get 20mph max . my question is will a 500w motor work on this with stock battery I know will run down faster but how fast and is the motor simple to fit or do I need firmware change
Hi, the link for the motor is in the description, but you might consider getting an original one from Monorim monorim.store/ As for the controller I was using the phaserunner v3 with cycle analyst just for testing purposes, it will cost you more than the scooter and will be a complete overkill for the needs. ebikes.ca/product-info/grin-products/phaserunner.html fasterbikes.eu/de/controller/349/50a-30-90v-phaserunner-motor-controller-v3?number=3108-OHNE fasterbikes.eu/de/zubehoer/cycle-analyst/206/cycle-analyst-v3-dps-direct-plug-in-mit-tacho
Hey guys, I’m looking for help I’m running a 500watt motor on my mi pro 2 with standard battery, please can someone help me what setting should I use to get full potential as I can’t really feel a difference thanks
Hi, you are probably experiencing the difference but not feeling it :) the difference is the motor is heating up less than the stock one. You won’t feel the power difference just from swapping the motor mate. Set your CFW for more amps if you expect more speed, but overall you need a bigger battery pack to load this motor enough 🙄
Hi can you help me with my firmware on mi scooter 3 i can't do the speed hack i believe its because i upgrade to tha latest version maybe?? Please help...
Most likely yes :) I think there is an app Xiaoflasher that should do it (paid version), but I am not 100% sure. Another option is to solder some pins on the controller and use the STlink programmer to flash the controller. Check the app first, after search on youtube how to flash m365 with Stlink
The controller died! The same happened to me with the monorim 500w during braking. So you have to do some adjustments in firmware to avoid this. I placed again the stock 250 w motor and a mi 365 pro controller and things are far better now
I'm not sure what is the point to have 5 km/h extra for all these risks of burn or extra modifications... With a pro 2 and tweak the firmware, you can reach 35 km/h... No need 500w motor, battery change, no risk for the controller. Am I wrong?
It is always worth getting a scooter designed for it :) but fun to experiment. The max speed depends on the riders size a lot as well. 50-60kg riders ride 32-33km/h on stock m365 as well. I am not sure Inwould get to 35 on the pro either.
no your right I get 34kph on my pro 2 with firmware mod. The Pro 2 has an updated controller so its ok but other models an uprated controller is really required.
@@1974RLuke pro 2 also has more powerful motor than 250w. Today I fixed the controller and sent 25amps on it, max speed was 35km/h with the 12s pack. Same can be achieved with 250w motor. I think this 500W motor will only start to shine with something like 14s and some decent controller 🙄 will try that as well
@@VRMinde I got 36 out of 25amps stock battery. Need to put an extra one hut I really want some feedback on the 500w motor. How fast will it burn the Controller. I can't find anywhere how much it can handle
@@themajasticcreature I think the controller can handle quite a lot and you can monitor it’s state by observing the temperature. I burned all controllers while braking 🙄 disconnect recovery braking and use physical brakes, and then make some extra cooling for the controller and observe temperatures in the app when you ride. This could be the way to figure it out.
My m365 pro is a year old, removed speed limiter an hour ago and I'm getting 30-32km/h on gps on stock battery and engine. Peak power is 700-800w and 300-450w constant. Not really more then with stock firmware. With stock firmware it would do between 250-400w constant depending on road conditions. Can definitely tell the controller gets warmer and motor to. I don't really use the thing alot and searching for cheap options to let it do 40-45km/h.
The stock motor can do 40-45 on pro. Controller can also survive, especially if you disable regen braking. The bottle neck is battery pack. Of course your controller will heat up even more, motor might burn one day as well…
@@VRMinde tried custom self modded firmware and got red blinking. Now reflashed preset firmware. Working again, but charges to 41.0v instead of 41.4v. Can you make a firmware with disabled speed limiter and 41.8v ? Regen is very strong on hard. I'd prefer medium, under load voltage drops down to about 37-38v in the beginning and with regen it goes to about 41v. I've seen a external battery pack ( 25ah 36v ) on a website from Poland. But then you're on the charger for 24 hours which is not ideal with stock charger.
@@VRMinde I have loaded a modified firmware on it this afternoon again. Pulls harder, but preffer stock settings with unlocked speed of 32. Less power usage ( now about 700-800 peak, 400 constant max ). During a load @ Full charge, the battery voltage dips down to 36-37v which is not ideal.
@@daand12 that is a big voltage sack. I just wanted to reply yesterday that ESC should not control how much your pack charges. It should be done by bms in my thinking at least 🙄 so should not depend on the firmware
@@VRMinde I think it's actually the BMS that does control max charge voltage, because i have a 4A 42V charger from AliExpress and seems not even charge to 4.2V per cell. More like 4.13~4.15V maximum. That cheap €16 charger actually charging the battery pack really fast. Should be done charging in 3 to 3.5 hours. Charging at 4.1A actual current. Stock charger is over 8 hours. I will drive from 100% to 0% this weekend with the firmware mod and then charge back up. Done 6.9KM today and had 70% left right after a stop. That voltage sack ( 37.5V when full @ 20A ). Mine contain EVE ICR cells and not LG or Samsung SDI. imgur.com/kwi5aiz Personally i think you can charge the normal M365 in 1.5 hours with this 4A charger
@@ninjaarcades7356 it does handle a bit better as it is easier to lift the front wheel for jumps and curb drops. If you have a lot of power on your scooter start is also better with rwd m. Also if you install the disc brake in front - the braking is so much more efficient. I did not notice any difference on carves/turns or just riding on a straight line though
Thank you mate one more thing will a upgraded controller be ok with 500w moter I'm looking at one now to by for £85 have you got a idea on what one to get mens thanks I'm building my scooter up once done I got to find a good firmware I like to go at least 30mph without blow up lol 😆
I tried all possible firmware mate, until my controller has burned (this was the 4th one). And all of my firmwares are power based. Maybe I am “special”, but with my 85kg body weight (probably 90 with clothes) I can never reach more than 31 with the stock battery and 36 with the 12s, measured on gps and on the 10” tires :)
LAbai idomu kokios temperaturos buvo konrolerio kiekvienu vaziavimu. Pats laukius 12s baterijos, esu uzsidejes 500w motora. iskart keisiu kondencatorius ir mosfetus i kitus,ziuresim kas bus
Nu mosfetus tikrai keisk :) temperaturu nepaziurejau net. Per daug buvo 😂 ir kaip dazniausiai buna - sudege stabdant. Patariu susitvarkyti gerai mechaninius stabdzius (pats desiu dvigubus dbr) ir atjungti regena, nes kontroleriai beveik visada sudega stabdant 🙄
@@VRMinde hey hey .. gal galit parekomenduot iskur mosfetus pirkti ir kondika? Seip keista kad tuos mosfetus rekomenduoja keisti gi jie ir taip 100v (cia ant pro v2.1) Na nors jo tie ibrf ant w galingesni , dbr esu idejas boost paka, gaunasi 12s vaziuojant 43 isuka 💁 istikruju rimtai svarstau daugiau itampa didint, tik zinoma mosfetus atkirsti nuo valdimo .. na ir galbut keist mosfetus su kondiku .
@@ignasvaitkevicius1697 tai kad man nelabai gerai su tais mosfetais ir apskritai kontroleriais gaunasi 😂 nelabai galiu ir rekomenduoti… turiu kontroleriu pora kuriuose kazkas dar perdege yra ir negaliu surasti kas 🙄
I have Xiaomi Pro 1st gen with 13s battery and I have these weird noises at about 34-36 kmh, if I exceed it, the weird noise will disappear. Also is good to have engine braking at minimum current (I have 8A at max).I replaced the mosfets for maybe 10 times just because of strong braking or braking with full battery. Also is good to have another fuse (for example I use car fuses), so if you burn two mosfets, it will go to short circuit and trust me - you really dont want to replace fuse in original battery.
About real currents (measured right from battery):
27A at max - mosfets burned after 80 km and 350W Pro engine gets really hot after 3 km ride.
22A - my current sport mode (13S 54V full charge), did not burn mosfets yet, really powerfull, 42kmh and engine gets hot after about 10km, so it is usable
18A - my current D mode, 37kmh, engine never got really hot
Maybe it will help someone
Hi mate. Huge thank you! This is such a valuable comment. Great idea with the fuse. I have also seen people installing cooling fans.
I am pinning your comment to the top. Myself, trying another controller. It is obviously the weak link when overvolting the m365.
@@VRMinde Hi, i have been wanting to do the mod you did in this video but because i want to make sure my pro2 last a really really long time since i live around hilly terrain. But before i do this, i have a few questions and maybe suggestions. Firstly, i think that the pro2 motherboard might have better components on it. So maybe it is a better 500W motor match? Secondly. Is it true that the scooter will act mostly as with a 350W motor if i was to install a 500W motor but i leave all other firmware settings as default for my xiaomi pro2? The weight would be slightly different i think, but in general is what i am asking.
My goal is to make sure my motor will never break, since i use it quite a lot where i live. I ran mine for about 243km the last 30 days until a mosfet broke upon breaking downhill with full battery.
There need to be an even better way for these scooter controllers to last. I CAN resolder mosfets, but the question is.... Do i/we really wanna?! I already added extra pressure and extra thermal paste to allow for better mosfet cooling. It seem to have worked well so far. But this is still not a solution that will last 🤔
@@CYellowan hi, as you see yourself, first weakest part is the ecu. So you need to choose and fit the right controller.
Afterwards you need to see how hot your motor gets. If you need a fast reliable scooter - there are factory-made solutions that will end up cheaper then changing almost all parts on m365 pro 2 :)
If you are ok with speed of about 40km/h - your 350w motor should last (unless you climb hills on full power all the time). Now this 500w is not even original monorim, it is a knock off and I don’t know how long it will last. I am testing it now with expensive aftermarket controller that can go up to 4kw… will see how that goes :)
One sure way to prolong life of m365 controller is disconnect any ebraking and mount double disc brakes instead.
@@VRMinde got a pro2, want to ride it uphill, rita and external battery is the best way?
also about vibrations, i think its the resonance the motor gets, it depends of a lot of factors, tyres, weight, others, fill the bar with foam or other filler, that can solve partially the problem and the plastic trim over the fork need to be checked, cleaned, some plastics trimmed, helped me on pro2, the tyre does the most noise, but it's not the only factor.
@@lion555ify two motors is a good way for going uphill, but yes, you need at least 12s pack for sure. Rita is plug and play+you can see all battery data in app/on dashboard. You can take out the stock pack and just use a 12s, but you will have to disable bms data and you will not see charge level etc on dash/apps
Finally!! A real scooter mod channel that doesn't try to discourage you from upgrading your scooter.
Nah mate I am not sure. I wish I had more time for these projects as they are fun, but I have not been seriously modding any bike/scooter for a while. I spend a lot of time on my boat work now..
Been there got a stack of burnt out controllers.
Frustrating and fun at the same time.
👍
Definitelly double feeling mate 😂 rollercoaster :)
Can one add a few mosfits myself is it hard to do.
I got two 36v controllers can I not just add the strip of mosfits to it
I’m looking to add two 36v 500w motors to my hover-1 alpha that I’m customizing. It’s my first build and I’m a bit nervous. Can I run two motors at 36v on the stock battery and just upgrade it with a pack? Or should I upgrade everything and get 48-60v and run dual 48v-60v 500-1000w ? So many choices.
Obviously I’ll have to upgrade the controllers and modify a bit but it’s mostly bolt on and go. Any thoughts?
Did you run the battery pack in parrell so keeping the 36v or did you seties doubling the voltage I also got a replacement controller and the speedo was waaaayyyy out. Reinforce the shunts and replace the large capacitor
I ran it with 12s pack. In another video I tried it with aftermarket controller and the 14s pack - mich better!
Hey man I currently have a Pro with only stock parts. I am actually not interested in making it go faster than the default 25, but when I ride uphill (even with a full battery) it just seems to lack the power to go faster than about 10, and if the battery isn’t at least at 80% it will stop altogether.
Do you think a 500W motor could fix that? Would I need other modifications such as custom firmware or a different controller as well?
If it could keep powering uphill at a steady >15km/h I would be really happy.
Cheers for the great vid 😄
Hey, if you customize the firmware - you will let more current to run through your existing motor, so it should climb a bit better (at the cost of more power consumed + heat created + longevity a bit reduced).
The next “bottleneck” will be battery. And only then the motor. Changing only the motor will do no good :)
@@VRMinde Thanks so much for answering, that's exactly what I needed to know! I guess step one is finding out how to flash my firmware with only Apple devices, it looks like all tools are Android or Windows only... And I'll have to downgrade the firmware first no doubt. A battery upgrade sounds worthwhile but it looks like adding an extra battery gets quite expensive to the point where buying a different scooter might make more sense.
@@ecco256 sounds like you figured it all out :) I have not been playing with firmware of m365 now for a few years so I simply lost track of the ways to rewrite it. Try some simple firmware change and if it is not working out - just get more powerful scoot that runs more volts :)
Hey man i have a question. What happens with regen braking or braking from the motor normally when a series battery is connected to the system? For example 3s. In total 54.6v max charge but can you explain like are the voltages separated or smth? Is there a risk? Im asking for Xiaomi pro 2 model. Appreciate what you are doing and helping the world out there!!
Do you mean you have a10s battery pack and then connect extra 3s in series to that pack? First of all I would never do this myself (unless some emergency), because there are risks of both damaging the batteries but also burning it all down.
Your key problem would be - capacity. The batteries need to be of exactly the same capacity which is nearly impossible to achieve. If capacity is not even, when you just charge (with the higher voltage) or reverse charge from the regen braking - your smaller capacity pack might stop accepting charge as it is full and then you will burn the other battery pack. Same with discharging, one pack might start charging the other one while having voltage drawn from it. Watch this dude th-cam.com/video/HhxyHqAtDzU/w-d-xo.html
@@VRMinde So the internal battery pack is 12800mah 42v and my 12.6v pack is 12800mah too. Bms of the 12.6v battery can output same amperage as internal and also it has 1 port for charge and discharge so when i brake it can accept charge. Also ive calculated all the batteries in my 12.6v pack to be as close in mah as possible and its getting in 12800 mah and on full charge my 12.6v and my internal battery have like 70mah difference.
@@VRMindealso the 12.6v battery charges separately with 12.6v charger
@@jbl_lover_fan_opex_ Well, it sounds like you have made a decision. It can work, just all the hassle :D Stupid question: why do you want to use regen at all? I disconnect it on all scooters when possible. If you drive around smart, lift the throttle, and coast earlier you won't lose much energy at all. But avoid all the risks on ECUs and batteries at the same time.
@@VRMinde i have regen on 4 amps so its barely noticeable but i dont have a problem to remove it completely. The problem is when i brake the electric brake on the front motor which i lower the amps too engages anyway so it charges both batteries but is it safe to charge like this in series? Thats what i mean :)
When you say you put the 500W motor with a 12s battery did you use an external 12s and the internal or just a 12s internal? thinking of sticking a 500W on my Pro 2 🤔
I used only external. If you want to connect both 12s and 10s at the same time you need Rita device. Mine is laying around with a burnt fuse 😂
@@VRMinde ah thanks I think the Pro 2 is already 12s so maybe a good uphrade with firmware unlock 👍
@@1974RLuke pro2 battery is still 10s, it just has more capacity.
@@JamesChurchill thanks 👍 wasn't 100% on this
500W and 12 battery combination looks really a huge boost. I wonder is it legal this kind of modification and what would be life span of xiomi itself. Anyways don't teach the younger ones and great content as always! Cheers! :)
It is legal if you limit the speed to 20 or 25 depending on the country. I don’t think it is a big issue in your homeland.
When I will get a controller replacement I will try to limit the current and hope that it will last longer than 1min this time 😂 getting a scooter built for higher speed is probably a cheaper, safer and more reliable way to go.
Thanks bro and hope you are doing well 🙌
So how about now with field weakening?
hi mate, my scooter is now disassembled in pieces as I am on other projects... I can't remember now what did it all end up with :)
Hey mate.. great and very helpful comparison. I have new 365PRO and my battery overheats while I m driving back to home from work. I drive almost 10km uphill. It s small but constatnt incline and I have 100kg :) . Battery temp reach 53,54 degrees and Scooter turns off. Do u think that I will resolve this problem if I add larger battery something like Monorim B2 battery 48v 14.4ah? What do you think?
If your battery is overheating it means you are drawing more current than the battery can give/was built to give. This is actually surprising to me as normally ECU is the first part to overheat on the M365. I will assume you flashed custom firmware with many watts on it :)
If you add a 48V battery, you will get the same watts with drawing less current, it should definitely help with the battery overheat issue. But you have to lower those amps then :D And most likely ECU will start overheating as the next thing
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@@VRMinde Woow tnx for quick response. Hmm.. quite strange because I am not using any firmware except factory software BMS 0126, ESC 0166, BLE 0110.. I am probably rare among us that don t like too much speed on this toy :)) Should I check and even change ECU before spend fortune on bigger battery? :)
@@branislavspasic3475 I don't know. I have never had an original pro ECU, legends say they last better :D But it is weird then that your battery is overheating
This modified it’ s possibile for Ducati Pro 1 Evo ??
i do not know anything about Ducati scooter mate, but in theory everything is possible :)
hi mate good job. if you could answer my questions i would be so happy.
- i bought that engine but i am not seeking for speed. I am about more torque. I have to climb high hill during my journey to my home everday. 350w engine is not enough for that.
* if use it with stock battery (i have xiaomi pro 2 scooter), will it be safe for my controller? I guess stock battery has 40v but engine has 48v?
* ı am not gonna change the firmware, so it can't go faster than 25 kmh?
* Stock battery has 12400 mah, if put 40000 mah instead of stock battery and 40v, can i get more range?
* if i put 48v battery, it will go faster than 25 kmh even if i dont change the firmware?
Thanks mate.
Hi mate:
- If you use it with stock everything nothing bad will happen to your controller or battery or anything
- if you not changing firmware it will stay at the same speed. Higher voltage battery won’t work without changing firmware
- if you use larger capacity but same voltage battery ot will have more range
Hi, Can I use the Monorim 500w motor with the original 36v battery? Will it increase speed?
You can, you won’t notice much increase…
Nice Videos! Where do you get your batteries from? :)
Nkon.nl and spot weld myself :)
I’m looking to add two 36v 500w motors to my hover-1 alpha that I’m customizing. It’s my first build and I’m a bit nervous. Can I run two motors at 36v on the stock battery and just upgrade it with a pack? Or should I upgrade everything and get 48-60v and run dual 48v-60v 500-1000w ? So many choices.
Obviously I’ll have to upgrade the controllers and modify a bit but it’s mostly bolt on and go. Any thoughts?
Normally, upgrading with dual motors and changing voltage up dramatically will require to change basically everything and is more expensive than buying a ready-made scooter :) But it is always possible... depends how much time you want to spend on this :D It looks "easy" but tiny little details eat up the most time.
Adding second motor (and ecu) at 36v is potentially easier way, you will feel a boost of power of course, but as you say you will need to add capacity of the pack as well. No one can tell you what to do mate, it is your decision :)
Was this test with stock controller? Iv got the 48v pack and a v3 controller and I’m looking to get the 500w hub but if it won’t reach 30mph I will just invest into something else
stock controller and 12s battery pack (it would be a "44V pack"). I reach 50km/h (31mph) at about 1500W. So if your 13s pack is fully charged you will have ~54V. You will need about 30 amps at that voltage to get 1500W.
@@VRMinde thank you bro, nice of you to still reply to your older videos 🤜🏾
@@EboyzLondon I am trying at least :D
Definetly enjoyed the content! I am looking to have 2WD on my XIAOMI M365!
2WD feels like a different scooter for sure! :)
I installed this motor onto my scooter but the motor brake is insanely powerful and launches me into the air, did you have that issue as well?
No I did not, you can adjust brakong power with firmware. Dit will burn your controller if it is so strong
where did you bought it?
@@koxobaonline
I am replacing my 250W with a 350W motor Do I need to do any firmware or software updates? Thanks for the video!
I assume you are not on stock firmware? What battery pack are you using? You could send more amps/power to the motor. And you might want to be careful with regen braking - set it from none to low to avoid controller damage
yooo bro! nice video! i got now a pro 2 (32kmpu (brake lever) firmware) today i changed the front tire and now it makes the same sound as youre motor heheh...
what should i upgrade for more speed pls help me out bro (stock pro2)
@branimir bankov Was claiming 2 weeks ago, that m365 pro does 42km/h +.
I personally do not believe it :D I think 32km/h is a decent speed for a 10s (36v) battery pack. You can try adding more amps on the firmware and hope it will go a bit faster.
The next thing to get more speed is a higher voltage battery pack. I think you can use a 13s (48v) pack with the stock controller if you are careful and do not overheat it too much. Eventually, you will burn the controller. Then you go for the more powerful controller, and then - motor, after it - two motors :D
@@VRMinde thx man!
Ive got my monorim motor it rides a bit swoother i dont think you need the pro dash i done it with hack its going about 31km now but the wheel hits back of mud guard.its ok when i pull it up a bit.ive ordered a 48v batery 100ah will that work on stock controler.???
Did you ever figure out why the motor was making such noise?
I think the controller got fried and then some current was flowing where it shouldn’t have done 😅
i got a question bro, i have a stock m365, id like to know if i can straightswap the 250w motor with the 350w motor?
yes, you can, I am not sure how much effect you will get though. I tried stock VS fake Monorim 500w one and there was not a lot riding difference at all
Hi. Did you finde a more beefy controller to handle the current?
I just used the Phaserunner from my ebike (up to 4kw), but that is an expensive overkill 🙄
@@VRMinde Thanks for the reply.
Fantastic video! Well done. Not going to lie that speed was fast
oh yeah, it did not feel safe TBH :D thanks man!
Have pro2 stock 350w motor and stock controller if put 48v baterry not demage?
No “immediate” damage, but you have to change the voltage settings in the firmware of course.
Watch out for how many amps you gona push and for how long. If you gonna go max throttle for 5mins non-stop, you can overheat and burn the controller
@@VRMinde thenks for info and how change the voltage bcs have drv 248 v3 controller.
And if put 12v baterry to my originál 36v in series?
Hi bro i have ordered the 48v battery to fit in my scooter pricy😢 just wanted to ask you can i add a external range battery with this at all thank you i no your the man to ask 💯🙏
Hi, you can easily add more batteries of the same voltage connecting them in parallel. It is a bit more tricky if you have a different voltage pack.
@@VRMinde thanks bro so got try to get a 48v have them charged the same then contact I see what I can do thanks for your advice 👍
Hey thanks for this review!! I just ordered the monorim 500w motor. I was wondering where i can buy the extra battery pack that you have ?
Cheers !
Hi mate, thanks! I got this pack from here: m365.embedden.com
@@VRMinde they ship from EU ?
@@dazbrugernavn some things they do. Now many companie ship through NL somehow. I suspect they do re-labeling there as “Manufacturing”
@@VRMinde i think ill write them a mail and ask :P
Hi I have 48 v battery from my bike and I trying to add it in my scooter m365 I add only 48 volt battery and when I turn on scooter beeping I change the firmware to 48 v remove charging mode and keep beeping stock controller can’t work with other battery -bms?
Thanks mate I wait your answer
What error code is it beeping? The problem is that your battery pack is not "communicating" with the controller. There is a github that describes the programming and the hardware behind, so you can make a custom BMS to work with the stock controller. But if you have 0 coding or electronics experience - it will be hard to understand. Next two options: 1 purchasing Rita - that will do the trick, or 2. just replace the controller to an aftermarket one.
It is it 8.5 inches?
Can’t remember now… probably 10”
I have m365 with 2nd gen 500w pro motor from aliexpress. With just the stock 10s battery it reaches 40kmh on a full charge. 35kmh is possible down to 30% battery charge
I assume you are a lightweight rider :)
That motor sound 😄 like a jet engine 😄
Yeah I kind of knew it will not end well 😂
The hole scooter is sounding noise?
Hallo i kindly as for your help , i have i pro 2 with 36v 24.4ah ( stock and external ) custom firmware with stock motor 950 watts pick with no problem . I am thinking about the monorim 500 w motor but i dont know what is the safe limit for watts , i ask monorim and i didnt get an answer . Normali with motors tere is the naminal power and pick is x2 , is that the case with monorim ? Can i set the pick to 1000 watts or more ? If iis only 1000 will i see a difrence between stock motor to 950 watts and monorim ? Many tnanks in advance . Keep up the good work
Hi mate, I doubt you will see a diference between the pro 2 stock motor and the 500w aftermarket one.
The more wats - the more heat. At some point your motor will burn if you give it too much power for too long. I ran 2200w on a 500w motor, but for short bursts only
@@VRMinde thank you very much for the answer . I am cosidering the 500 w motor not to put more watts than te 950 that i have now but in terms of heeting . Is there a chance tat the 500 w motor with 950 watts heats less than te stock pro 2 motor ?
@@psyllinos in theory it should be the case :) but you I have not compared two side by side to know if it is true
El motor 500w monorim cuantos kg pesa? Y el motor de serie cuantos kg pesa?
Package was 4kg. Did not check the weight 🤷🏻♂️
Hi Where can i find installation guide this motor in m365 scooter. There is difference in wires color between 500W and stock motor
The extension cords are the same color, or at least two of them 🙄 it goes yellow/green/blue (the extensions).
Try gently. If you get it wrong it will either spin the wrong way/won’t spin/make weird noise :)
@@VRMinde Thx dude. I will try today :)
@@VRMinde Its work. Im happy again 😃Thank You for advise. Now i need max save performace settings for new configuratiin. Do You have some testet settings to meke custom firmware with stock battery ?
@@Islamic_season i do it basically every time depending on my needs buddy, don’t think I can share the file. Happy it works! :)
Probably you overload the controller by hitting the break lever and eventually if you do that kers will kick in.
that is exactly what happened :)
Hey man where did u buy the moter from??
Check out the link in the video description mate 🤘
what does the extra battery do does it make the voltage higher or does it increase the capacity
It is a higher voltage and capacity battery
Hi bro what is the phone holder thing called. Can you send me link please
It is this one DKK 62.41 25％ Off | GUB G-81 G-85 G-88 G-99 PRO1 PRO2 Aluminum Bicycle Phone Holder For 3.5-6.2 inch Smartphone Support GPS Bike Phone Stand Mount
a.aliexpress.com/_mM9BLv2
Great video. Again. Keep it up 👍🏽
Thanks man, have a great week!
@@VRMinde likewise 🙂
Was it a 36v 500w controller?
It was the stock m365 controller. Probably you could call it 500w and 36v 🙄
Hi got 500w moter and upgraded controller with external 36v battery with stock 36v battery what is the best amp on sport mode thank you bro
Answer is always “it depends”.
The motor can take more than 500w for a short period of time, probably you can run it for couple minutes at 2kw 🙄 2000w/36V = 55.6Amps. If you try that - the stock battery will not provide it and very likely die :)
When it is stock, bottle necks go in this sequence: controller, battery, motor. You have an improved controller so probably your bottle-neck will be the stock battery pack now. I am not sure it likes more than 15-20 amps.. I do not even remember if 20 is already too much 🙄
Hi mate happy with your advice I'm going to order a 52v battery it has bms but no Bluetooth will that matter and will I have to take the original battery out as the one im getting will only fit on top in the battery bag oh and it's 20ah will that matter?? Its called stealth bomber just need advice before getting it thank you for the help👌💯
I normally use BT on BMS to set it up once. If it comes pre-setup or you can connect in any other way it is not really that needed...
You won't be able to run the original and 52v batteries together unless you use something like Rita adapter e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/accessories/rita-adapter-for-xiaomi/@@ianwhittingham709
Hey i have a question
I Want to put a 350 watt motor on my Xiaomi 1s. Can i just do it like just take the Old 250 watt off and put the 350 watt on? Or is there something i need to change with the batteri or some checking i need to do with the batteri before i do it or Can my normal Xiaomi 1s batteri get a 350 watt motor on it without any problems? And i have the newer Xiaomi 1s B.L.E 1.5.7 version.
And Can you just put a 350 watt motor on without flashing the scooter?
You can put the 350w motor just straight replacement, but you won’t feel any difference. What you need is different battery to get more speed/acceleraton and then different firmware flashed
@@VRMinde What if i just put it on and then just have it that Way? Will it work without any work
@@dinfar4367 it will work, but you won’t get any benefit 🙄
@@VRMinde oh thanks:)
What will I need to reach 40kmh got the 500w moter and extended battery mine only gets up 2 20mph any help will be brilliant 👏 thank you
Hmmm, you can try pushing the power (amps) up, but the controller will eventually burn. Speed comes easiest from higher voltage 🙄 I got this going at 50kmh with a 14s (52V) battery pack
Is that with stock battery aswell bro
no, not with a stock battery pack mate@@ianwhittingham709
What’s the red 31? An error message?
Not even sure any more now. Speed? :D
@@VRMindedon't think so. Jumps from 26 to red 31 then back to increased speed like 27. I'm thinking over volt or program error maybe. To be expected when you're working within limits :)
@@ahoyskid must be some program error I assume. Doesn’t affect the speed 😅
the motor comes in a pack that includes a new controller and higher amp battery so u can go 60km an hour
This one from aliexpress didn’t, there is a product link in the description. It was only the motor mate.
@@VRMinde ah yeah a european re seller makes upgrade kits with these for 450 euro i think including the battery motor controller and interface if im correct
@@Jay-rd6fe do you have a link?
@@johansturesson6128 sorry i cant find it anymore it was a spanish monorim retailer that made the kit if i remebee that came with a controller bigger battery and motor
Hello sir.
What is the differences of speed battery and range battery?
Is it gonna affect also the controller of the scooter if I will add a bigger battery for my scooter?
Range is the same voltage, more capacity (mah). Speed is more voltage, despite the capacity.
Depends what is “bigger” - if it is only capacity - stock controller will work. If it is more voltage than 12s pack - you will have to at least modify the controller. 12s (max 50.4v fully charged) you can still use the stock controller
@@VRMinde thank you sir.
My scooter is copy only of gmax and I have done a lot of modification.my scoot max speed is 30kmh.i just want to atleast add a little bit more of speed maybe 40-45kmh.do you think I will add a speed battery.
@@cesarpingaronjr2914 from 30 to 45 is not “a bit” it is a lot to add :) you will definitely need a higher voltage battery, at least 14s/48v, meaning a new controller as well. Be sure to have good brakes and do not forget F=m*v^2 :) (force equals mass multiplied by speed squared, or in other words - speed adds a lot to when there is an impact)
@@VRMinde my scooter specs is 36V 15ah nominal voltage36 VDC max.
Hub motor is 300watts.
Can you advice me sir what kind of controller and how much battery i will add for it just to reach the speed that i want.
I learning a lot from you right now honestly ☺️☺️☺️.
Thank you very much 🙏🙏🙏
@@cesarpingaronjr2914 I can’t advice you a specific controller. To reach speeds of 50km/h you will need at least 1000w 🙄 so think of 14s (48v) battery pack and 20-25a controller. Motor might survive for a while, but at the end you will replace it as well. Overall it is cheaper to buy a faster scooter than to upgrade the one you have, just saying :)
Can u buy a 48v 500w controller or?
ofc you can, I tried on 2kW controller and at least initially the motor did not burn :D
where did you get the 12s battery
From m365.embedden.com
Hello, I was wondering if I buy the Rita adapter from Denis yurev and I add a 12s 44,4v and the stock battery. Is there any issue with adding a 350w or 500w to it ? Do I have to do something specific to the software
You will have to set the max voltage in the firmware and also desired power for your motor (despite if it is stock or 350 or 500w)
O neplanuoji i AWD susideti viena ar gal net abu po 500W ? :)
Tai pabandysiu bent jau viena 500w ideti, tik noriu su tais kontroleriais issispresti pries tai :)
What is the speedometer app you use?
It is literally called Speedometer 😀
whne using 500w 12s battery pack did you have to buy rita bms or just normal sorry if that didn't make sense thanks
If you only use 12s pack but do not need to use your stock pack - you don’t need any Rita.
BTW Rita is rated for 30amps input, a bit more and fuse will burn
@@VRMinde what range would you get with stock m365 battery and 500w motor? thanks
@@meco3215 similar as with the stock motor. The motor is not a bottleneck on a stock scooter. If you want more speed and power first thing to upgrade is the battery pack
@@VRMinde could you send me a link to your external battery thanks
@@meco3215 m365.embedden.com/44_4v_10350mah_battery
also where can i buy an 12s or 14s battery?
i got my xiaomi pro 2 custom with a 52v 25amps controller and an 52v battery with a stock 36v 300w motor and top speed of 45kmh.but my motor takes up to heat fast and it burns out..Will a monorim 500w motor will better for me or it will heat even worst than the stock one?
It should be able to take more punishment. But 52V X 25amps = 1300W. You should not expect a 300W or even a 500W motor to be able to run all those wats for long without getting warm :)
the 12s battery is connected parallel or series to the original battery???
You cannot connect two different voltage batteries together neither in series nor parallel. Unless you use the "Rita" device (e-scooters.embedden.com/)
@@VRMinde oh ok nice
Can you install the 48v 500w motor and combine it with a 36v 10500mah battery and a stock controller or will that not work?
you most likely can run a 48V motor with a 36V battery but it will be slow as F...The more volts, the more revs, the more speed mate
Hi, do you know if it's possible to install air tires onto this motor?
Hi, I have not tried it mate, not sure
IT comes with air tyres when you buy it new.
speed is so low :( But acceleration not bad. 350w motor can 42 km/h at 42v(36)
Speed 40-50 comfortable and this is the maximum possible speed without losing control. Better wheels is pneumatic cst 2.25 and 3.0
This motor is rated for 48V, so fully charged 54.6. I think I can run this motor even on 58V, then it will go fast.
Honestly, I don’t need more than 35km/h on my scooter :) But we will see how it goes on 14s battery and with a 4kw controller.
Got my controller yesterday, will begin building soon!
@@VRMinde I will be looking forward to that video.
@@rocketrhys2676 I have tested it now for 5mins. 35amps gave me 42km/h on gps. Will continue testing, the only problem is the rain. It’s forecasted until Monday. Hopefully I can film and edit by the end of next week
I have this motor coming on delivery. It's a 10x125inch wheel. Is this adequate for the m365 as I only realised the size afterwards? I dobt suppose anyone would know?
If it is the same - it will work. You won't get much 'extra speed" unless you have more powerfull battery pack
Loving what u do
Thank you mate for your support!
That motor has better performance with 13S (48v) battery
Oh I believe so. What controller do you use though? I am a bit hesitant to take the Phaserunner from my ebike with 14s pack, but I might do it for an experiment :)
Stock controller with irfb4110 mosfets and 100v capacitors
@@CarlosDRLopes I need to buy other mosfets 🙄
Controller must be v2.1 or better yet v3.0
@@CarlosDRLopes the difference is only the traces if I am not mistaking?
What do you mean 12s ? Is it speed battery?
it refers to the battery construction. Batteries are not "36V" or "48V", because the battery voltage changes as you charge - discharge it. 36V is a 10s battery pack, meaning it has 10 cells connected in Series. 1cell voltage is 3.1-4.2V and "on 50% charge" is 3.6V.
please try the motor on the m365 pro cuz i saw a video of a guy going 70+ with 500w motor
Hi mate, It does not matter if it was “pro” or any other version because to reach 70+ you will need a completely different battery pack (probably 72V) as well as a controller.
And second: I would not drive 70km/h on a scooter like this with 10” tires and shitty brakes. I have my ebike for speeds like this :)
Nice video ，can u tell me the diameter of the monorim motor without tire?
It won't be super accurate mate, it is around 160.5mm or so
@@VRMindethx for your reply 🙏
Hey i think you are good in this.. I have 48V battery (13s) with controller reinforced 140A mosfets.. 350W motor ... CFW set to 25A current limit 65A... It spins 35km/h ... whats the case ? . On 36V battery i spinned 35KM/h...
Hi,
That’s weird 🙄 54.5Vx65A=3.5kw 😳 at 2kw I reach 50km/h on my m365. But I used the aftermarket 500w motor and ECU with field weakening.
I am confident the 350w motor should run faster. There is something limiting your rpms or voltage. Firmware? There is definitely the “hard limit of 35km/h” in firmware. Is it even possible to really remove it?
Any chance you can try another ECU? Not the stock one?
@@VRMinde I have Flipsky 71500 ? 75_300_R2 but yeah .. when i try power on XT60 plug it just burn my connector.. so ...
There might be case that i have InternalBattery(Disabled BMS communicaton ?) and ESC doesn't know how operate voltage ? i flashed 23A with 65A current... i mean it spins 37-38 ? idk whats wrong
@@VRMinde But why 65A ? i put 25A in Power and 65A in current (phase current) if i belive does it matter ?.
@@xtracker904 just thinking basically: you should always get more RPMs with more voltage on the same motor. Unless there is something limiting it. I can only think of ECU 🙄
@@xtracker904 you said you had max amps at 65A?
Power is measured by watts. P=UxI where P is power (W), U voltage (V), I current (A).
Even if you keep 25A on a fully charged 13s it is more than 1300W. That is enough to go faster than 35km/h. One or another way your controller is limiting the speed, I think. I can’t now think of anything else mate
I have m365 pro2 not additional battery only chip and goes 42kmh
Good for you mate! I have already tried many scooters, 33km/h was the most I could ever get out of a 36v battery pack, and that was probably a bit downhill and for 1sec 😂
@@VRMinde I have also old m365 it's without addition battery goes 35Kmh just the chip
Hi. I'm changing my Xiaomi pro motor from 300w (original) to 350 w. Do i need to know something before i changed it?
You need to know how to use a wrench and a couple more tools :) That's it
Hi mate will I need a 48v battery to make my 500w moter work thanks
I have upgraded motherboard and 500w moter I have tried using it and have no power I haven't used the new motherboard yet still on the old one and standard battery need help mens thanks
It should work if you connected it OK. You won’t feel too much difference but it should work mate.
I'm going to prepare my M365 PRO for the engine upgrade with this 500W.
If I stay with the original software and standard battery - Will I get more torque?
If you want to feel more anything - replace the battery first. The torq difference will be negligible unless you climb hills all day long :) I would still go with a battery upgrade though
@@VRMinde my original m365 has a voltage sag to 34v when fulla charged and drawing 30A so can confirm battery upgrade is imo the first thing to upgrade
@@chefen929 it is the bottleneck for sure
Hello Mate, great video as always, sorry to hear about your controller, if your able to get hold of the V3 stock controller that will do you just good, no need to change mosfets on that,since I last commented on your previous video clip on your Dual motor video clip, I have now gone 13s3p 14.4ah internal alongside my 13s4p 20ah external battery ,Rita adapter for BMS emulation great with the 500w monorim motor, I have no issues and have pushed some good speeds so far and have done alot miles on the same controller, 900+ miles so far, I havent changed my firmware for along while as i'm currently comfortable with the firmware I created
Great to hear that v3 is lasting mate! I can’t find them to buy and they are also quite expensive! Tried 2 aftermarket controllers, something got damaged again :) don’t want to even open them and check one more time.
Working now on 14s5p and 500w (knockoff) Monorim motor. 2.2kw today, 52km/h :) motor getting a bit on the warm side if I push it hard. Probably will stick to a single motor setup for now. Gonna make myself another battery, maybe 16s, will see.
Thanks for watching and commenting bro!
hi i want to install this motor on my scooter for the extra torc will it install as i cannot change my firm ware can i plug this motor in and will it work as normal
It should just work man, I am not sure how much torq will you notice. I would first go with bigger voltage battery (but then you will need to change firmware/controller)
@@VRMinde ok I see it'd just I have the 10 inch solid tyres on and I get 43kph now it's just slow off the line now wanted the acceleration back
@@VRMinde I have the 350 watt motor at the moment bro
@@VRMinde just another question if you don't mind bro if I was to change my original battery for a higher amp 1eg. 7.8 amp that I have now to say 15 amps will I have to still change the controller please 🙏
@@Motorizedstuff you won’t get more acceleration mate with 500w motor or it will be a very small difference. Amps are controlled by controller, voltage depends on battery. Power=volts x amps. Your controller most likely is limiting max amps. So you could get higher voltage battery, but if you don’t know what you are doing - you can burn the controller easy :)
I wish I would have seen this video befor my upgrade :)) ..Or I have seen it but I did not read the comments also... I Think I just burned my controller :) ..and I was so happy with the 35km /h. :) I upgraded the controller to monorim 48v and also battery to 48v (13s3p). I kept the original 250W (36V) motor. Accelerations was nice , speed enough for me, but it happen exactly like in your case ....at a moment display went off and will not power on again. I disconnected the battery , display turned on , but after few meters (I can feel it put power definitely ) display turn of and scooter stops abruptly. I wish I would not activate regen brake :) ... also I use minirobot app for settings and remove speed limit ...Guys, do you think there is a chance to repair my controller ? is it burned if it can deliver power / curent for few meters ? :) Should I buy another controller monorim , or better a bike controller that definitely can handle 500W as is rated ? this monorim is super tiny !!! I dubt can handle 20A as is written on it (48Vx 20A = ~ 1000W ..confusing ) . My bike controller that can handle 25A is 4 time bigger ... maybe is a better idea to buy a real controller (bike one) but then I have to install it outside .... and then maybe I have to upgrade also the motor to 500W :))) ... so only the frame remains ... as one guy said here...better buy from beginning a powerful scooter:)))) . actually I was pretty happy that with only 200 eur I upgraded my scooter to be zippier and faster.... only if I would know to deactivate regen brake :)) ...
Happens with upgrades :) lessons learnt :) You most likely can repair the controller, depending what burned. But to be honest I failed so many times trying to repair/identify what was defected…
Can i use 2 36v battery’s in parallel to run a 500w motor will it decrease my range
Hi mate I had 2 36v running it just adds bit more range
is there any 48v controller that supports that motor, cuz am thinking to get it but not risking to burn up my controller so yeah
Any controller will do, but honestly, I would rather buy like kukirin g2 and have better brakes, suspension, and overall almost everything :)
i mean i currently have the m365 the european white but like am thinking to upgrade it w prob an extra battery, the monorim motor some suspensions and yeah but i dont know if i would need to get a better controller to support the 48v
@@m1rage-2000 That is what am I saying, if you need battery, motor, suspension and controller - you will spend more than a new scooter costs, put hours of work and still have m365. While they are great scooters, but the world moved on... My m365 with all the mods, double motors, double disc brakes, double suspension etc. is much less enjoyable to ride than a 400eur kukirin G2... Unless you really want to spend time building and not riding :)
I wish I could understand this motor does not support a regular tire and inner tube :-( :-( -- I bought this same motor after seeing your video, and it really has more torque with the same battery and firmware, it is amazing.
Inflatable tire would be cool, true :)
@@VRMinde Seems the original monorim motor is also only for solid tires :-( -- seems there is no such 500W powerful motor for M365 that is also for inflatable tires.
hi I have a stock pro 2 but have hacked firmware too get 20mph max . my question is will a 500w motor work on this with stock battery I know will run down faster but how fast and is the motor simple to fit or do I need firmware change
Pro 2 has a good motor, I do not think you will notice much of a difference. It will work, but I doubt you will get much extra performance 🙄
Hi. Can you please send me link to good controller and the 500W motor? I want to buy something that was tried / tested. Thanks
Hi, the link for the motor is in the description, but you might consider getting an original one from Monorim monorim.store/
As for the controller I was using the phaserunner v3 with cycle analyst just for testing purposes, it will cost you more than the scooter and will be a complete overkill for the needs. ebikes.ca/product-info/grin-products/phaserunner.html
fasterbikes.eu/de/controller/349/50a-30-90v-phaserunner-motor-controller-v3?number=3108-OHNE
fasterbikes.eu/de/zubehoer/cycle-analyst/206/cycle-analyst-v3-dps-direct-plug-in-mit-tacho
@@VRMinde many thanks. I will buy controller and the wheel next month 😉
How you get battery 🔋 pack?
Today I just build them for myself.. have not bought one in a looong time…
@@VRMinde how do you build that? 🤔⚠️🛸🌃👑😉
@@VRMinde that awesome dude!
I can’t explain it in a simple text mate :)
Hey guys,
I’m looking for help I’m running a 500watt motor on my mi pro 2 with standard battery, please can someone help me what setting should I use to get full potential as I can’t really feel a difference thanks
Hi, you are probably experiencing the difference but not feeling it :) the difference is the motor is heating up less than the stock one. You won’t feel the power difference just from swapping the motor mate.
Set your CFW for more amps if you expect more speed, but overall you need a bigger battery pack to load this motor enough 🙄
Thanks so much it’s more the torque when I got it the torque on it was really good I messed with the setting and now it’s really slow on start up
Is there a link to the battery pack?
it was long ago from this website m365.embedden.com/
My internally stock pro 2 with a flash goes 41
What’s your weight?
Hi can you help me with my firmware on mi scooter 3 i can't do the speed hack i believe its because i upgrade to tha latest version maybe??
Please help...
Most likely yes :) I think there is an app Xiaoflasher that should do it (paid version), but I am not 100% sure.
Another option is to solder some pins on the controller and use the STlink programmer to flash the controller. Check the app first, after search on youtube how to flash m365 with Stlink
@@VRMinde thank you very much keep doing this amazing contents
@@ricardopais11 Thanks for the support mate!
Hello did u tried with 48V battery ?
No not yet, I am now testing another scooter. But I will try that
@@VRMinde okay thx you !
The controller died! The same happened to me with the monorim 500w during braking. So you have to do some adjustments in firmware to avoid this. I placed again the stock 250 w motor and a mi 365 pro controller and things are far better now
Yup :) I have went with phaserunner that can take up to 4kw :)
You replace only the m365 pro dashboard and anything else??
@@listarxos you don’t need to replace the dashboard for using 500w motor. What you need to feel a benefit of the motor is bigger voltage battery pack
@@VRMinde if i have a stock 250w motor and i want more km, only upgrade to pro 2 with dashboard and firmware change?
Will i take anything?
Αλέξανδρε είσαι Έλληνας?
48v?
12s in this video. That would be “44.4v” :)
52v here th-cam.com/video/P4-Giz0LZkM/w-d-xo.html
try to downgrade the bms to 1.2.8 and use direct power control, my pro 2 w 8,5 inch can go 35km/h, and w 10 inch 42km/h (fully charged)
I tried many things mate, maybe I am too chunky but to get above 40km/h i generally need a 48v battery :)
I'm not sure what is the point to have 5 km/h extra for all these risks of burn or extra modifications... With a pro 2 and tweak the firmware, you can reach 35 km/h... No need 500w motor, battery change, no risk for the controller. Am I wrong?
It is always worth getting a scooter designed for it :) but fun to experiment. The max speed depends on the riders size a lot as well. 50-60kg riders ride 32-33km/h on stock m365 as well. I am not sure Inwould get to 35 on the pro either.
no your right I get 34kph on my pro 2 with firmware mod. The Pro 2 has an updated controller so its ok but other models an uprated controller is really required.
@@1974RLuke pro 2 also has more powerful motor than 250w. Today I fixed the controller and sent 25amps on it, max speed was 35km/h with the 12s pack. Same can be achieved with 250w motor. I think this 500W motor will only start to shine with something like 14s and some decent controller 🙄 will try that as well
@@VRMinde I got 36 out of 25amps stock battery. Need to put an extra one hut I really want some feedback on the 500w motor. How fast will it burn the Controller. I can't find anywhere how much it can handle
@@themajasticcreature I think the controller can handle quite a lot and you can monitor it’s state by observing the temperature. I burned all controllers while braking 🙄 disconnect recovery braking and use physical brakes, and then make some extra cooling for the controller and observe temperatures in the app when you ride. This could be the way to figure it out.
My m365 pro is a year old, removed speed limiter an hour ago and I'm getting 30-32km/h on gps on stock battery and engine.
Peak power is 700-800w and 300-450w constant. Not really more then with stock firmware.
With stock firmware it would do between 250-400w constant depending on road conditions.
Can definitely tell the controller gets warmer and motor to.
I don't really use the thing alot and searching for cheap options to let it do 40-45km/h.
The stock motor can do 40-45 on pro. Controller can also survive, especially if you disable regen braking. The bottle neck is battery pack. Of course your controller will heat up even more, motor might burn one day as well…
@@VRMinde tried custom self modded firmware and got red blinking. Now reflashed preset firmware. Working again, but charges to 41.0v instead of 41.4v.
Can you make a firmware with disabled speed limiter and 41.8v ?
Regen is very strong on hard.
I'd prefer medium, under load voltage drops down to about 37-38v in the beginning and with regen it goes to about 41v.
I've seen a external battery pack ( 25ah 36v ) on a website from Poland.
But then you're on the charger for 24 hours which is not ideal with stock charger.
@@VRMinde I have loaded a modified firmware on it this afternoon again. Pulls harder, but preffer stock settings with unlocked speed of 32. Less power usage ( now about 700-800 peak, 400 constant max ). During a load @ Full charge, the battery voltage dips down to 36-37v which is not ideal.
@@daand12 that is a big voltage sack. I just wanted to reply yesterday that ESC should not control how much your pack charges. It should be done by bms in my thinking at least 🙄 so should not depend on the firmware
@@VRMinde I think it's actually the BMS that does control max charge voltage, because i have a 4A 42V charger from AliExpress and seems not even charge to 4.2V per cell. More like 4.13~4.15V maximum.
That cheap €16 charger actually charging the battery pack really fast. Should be done charging in 3 to 3.5 hours.
Charging at 4.1A actual current.
Stock charger is over 8 hours.
I will drive from 100% to 0% this weekend with the firmware mod and then charge back up.
Done 6.9KM today and had 70% left right after a stop.
That voltage sack ( 37.5V when full @ 20A ).
Mine contain EVE ICR cells and not LG or Samsung SDI.
imgur.com/kwi5aiz
Personally i think you can charge the normal M365 in 1.5 hours with this 4A charger
Has anyone tried the the rwd mod on this scooter and if you have what difference in handling have you noticed
On M365 I have tried RWD, FWD and 2WD. They all handle a bit different, but I would not be bothered too much about that.
@@VRMinde ta
@@VRMinde was rwd faster or handled better
@@ninjaarcades7356 it does handle a bit better as it is easier to lift the front wheel for jumps and curb drops. If you have a lot of power on your scooter start is also better with rwd m. Also if you install the disc brake in front - the braking is so much more efficient. I did not notice any difference on carves/turns or just riding on a straight line though
@@VRMinde yeah thats what I was thinking breaks would work even better with suspension on front like my motorcycle
350W 53km/h on old 365
Attached to a fighter jet plane? :D
change size tire 12.5 in app you will unlock speed
You do not know what you are talking about man
Anyone got firmware i can use ???
For m365? Mate you can create your own :) there are many apps for custom fw
Thank you mate one more thing will a upgraded controller be ok with 500w moter I'm looking at one now to by for £85 have you got a idea on what one to get mens thanks I'm building my scooter up once done I got to find a good firmware I like to go at least 30mph without blow up lol 😆
You need to try the power based throttle, you can reach about 32 km/h with 250W motor (35 with 10 inch tyres)
If you Want I can send at you a nice Italian Firmware
I tried all possible firmware mate, until my controller has burned (this was the 4th one). And all of my firmwares are power based.
Maybe I am “special”, but with my 85kg body weight (probably 90 with clothes) I can never reach more than 31 with the stock battery and 36 with the 12s, measured on gps and on the 10” tires :)
@@VRMinde Wait do You have an email? I'm trying to send at you a firmware
@@simoplay29 I do. It’s: weareminde gmail
Can u send it to me
Hi mate my 500w moter dont fit my pro2 xaiomi any help
What do you mean it does not fit mate? How can it not fit?
They sent me the wrong one 😂 so now got wait another 1week for right one I was gutted got all my mod parts ready to put together and still got wait 😂
shit happens :) @@ianwhittingham709
I got a brushed controler will that work ???
LAbai idomu kokios temperaturos buvo konrolerio kiekvienu vaziavimu. Pats laukius 12s baterijos, esu uzsidejes 500w motora. iskart keisiu kondencatorius ir mosfetus i kitus,ziuresim kas bus
Nu mosfetus tikrai keisk :) temperaturu nepaziurejau net. Per daug buvo 😂 ir kaip dazniausiai buna - sudege stabdant. Patariu susitvarkyti gerai mechaninius stabdzius (pats desiu dvigubus dbr) ir atjungti regena, nes kontroleriai beveik visada sudega stabdant 🙄
@@mariuspetraitis2793 nu as jau pridegines tu kontroleriu bent 3 ar 4 turiu su 12s :D reiks biski srove pamazinti ir stabdzius atsargiau ziureti 🙄
@@VRMinde hey hey .. gal galit parekomenduot iskur mosfetus pirkti ir kondika? Seip keista kad tuos mosfetus rekomenduoja keisti gi jie ir taip 100v (cia ant pro v2.1) Na nors jo tie ibrf ant w galingesni , dbr esu idejas boost paka, gaunasi 12s vaziuojant 43 isuka 💁 istikruju rimtai svarstau daugiau itampa didint, tik zinoma mosfetus atkirsti nuo valdimo .. na ir galbut keist mosfetus su kondiku .
@@ignasvaitkevicius1697 tai kad man nelabai gerai su tais mosfetais ir apskritai kontroleriais gaunasi 😂 nelabai galiu ir rekomenduoti… turiu kontroleriu pora kuriuose kazkas dar perdege yra ir negaliu surasti kas 🙄
I saw 40 on your dashboard
Yeah that was one brief second :)
1 manpower motor, 85kg battery pack🤣🤣
Yeah that’s the happy ending 😂