just installed mine and couldn't be happier, easy to connect and install and with my 15Ah extra battery and limit amps to 25 i am getting 80km range on my pro 2 now. thanks again
@@mrzoro6121 i have pro2 and fits perfect, all plugs fit. not sure about non pro m365. takes 10 mins to install and works perfect, i added a 15Ah battery as extra and I adjusted firmware to max of 20 amps now I get 80km range
Great video! One question: If you flash your xiaomi scooter, will this affect the warranty and serial number of the scooter? And can I "remove" the flash or change it back to the default settings? Thanks for the detailed tutorial! 😁
hopefully that u will still produce these awesome mod products in the coming years..😭😭 cause once i have my scooter, u better still keep producing these mod products.😭😭
Hello! Im looking to buy this one but want to use a 13s (48v) external battery. When will you release a video about the installation of a 48v battery with Rita? I remember ypu saying in a video that the installation is a little bit special with higher voltages. Keep up the great work! 🤗
Thanks! Not sure that I will release it soon, because I have a lot of work. Generally, for 48 volts battery you have to 1. Upgrade the controller for higher voltage support. 2. Cut 12s+ jumper at Rita and then connect it regular way. This information is also presented in the user manual: public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/English/rita_manual_latest_en.pdf And you can join my public support telegram group, there are some guys who sucessfully connected 13s battery: t.me/m365_custom_electronics_en
Yes, but sometimes it's not easy to flash this model. Check if you are able to flash it first. Nevertheless, if you can't - you can still use 10s(36V) batteries with Rita. But you must flash the scooter for higher voltage batteries
*can you hook up another battery with different voltge or does it have to be the same. Example 36 V and 48v?* I aiamagine no, just connect the same voltages but people on a fb page say you can. Thanks for the response
The main idea of Rita adapter is to be able to connect 36V and 48 batteries together. The answers is: yes, you can connect 36V and 48V batteries in parallel using my Rita device.
brilliant, makes a lot easier, when first using can you use normal charging port, or will it require another charger to first charge external to same as internal
Hey I just ordered an extra battery to do this but now found out that the one I ordered can’t be charged in parallel with the xiaomi, it has to be charged separate - can’t be charged thru discharge wires. Hoping this won’t be too big an issue. If you have any advice or tips or anything plz do let me know. Thanks
Hello, is the external battery safe to drive with during rain? I use my scooter for daily commuting and sometimes there's no choice but to drive while it's raining, which makes me worry that an external battery is a bad idea for my use. Also, my use of the stock battery sometimes causes overheating during long drives as I modified the firmware to draw more current for hill climbing. Does the RITA adapter evenly distribute the load between two batteries or does it always drain the external one first? I'd just like to know if I should opt for the 12s battery pack over the 10s. Thank you in advance!
Hi, 1. I would say it is safe to ride during rain if your battery is packed and sealed well. My batteries are good enough. 2. Rita drains a single higher voltage battery first. Then, when batteries voltages are equal, the current is shared between batteries. A 10s external battery is the best choice for you, becase it operates together with the internal battery all the time, while a 12s battery must be discharged by 50% before its voltage drops to 41-42V to start operating together with the interbal one.
Great video! I have mi1s but can't flash with m365downg and I want to buy external battery for better speed (now it is 25kph). Can you recommend something?
Hello, I was able to send parcel to the UK 2 weeks ago, but for now there are some difficults due to COVID and BREXIT. Hope the troubles will dissapear in a few weeks since the UK and EU arranged the trading deal.
Hi Dennis sorry for the vague question which is I have a 48 volt battery without data wires on it only 2 wires charge wire and power wire the controller has had bms skipped I’m not using xiaomi battery at all can I still use Rita with this set cheers
iam used the original m365 battery and an additional 36V 10Ah battery(liitokala) for around a year. The charging time with the original xiaomi charger for both connected was 6 - 8 hours. If you use a cheap China charger, as is usually included with cheap China Batteries it can really take 12 - 16 hours+ I don't know how Rita affects the loading time, iam using the 12s now. greets :)
Hi! Yes, I remember I promised, but I have suspended the internal battery project a bit. I will release it later. At this moment my priority project is Ninebot MAX version of Rita.
i push 43km on my xiaomi pro on standard mode, 30% at the end of the trip (this is really slow 21 kph, on sport mode i think the range will be much lower) I would love to test how an external will affect the pro model that already comes with a 70% larger internal battery than the regular. My regular m365 only gets at best 20km on standard mode. I tried my same trip in sport mode and I would estimate make 32km range. I cut the trip short at around 50% mark so I would have charge to return. Only made it about 16km one way, had about 15% at 32km but the batt said 5% the next day just left in my room.
Hi, yes, it works, but you have to ensure you are able to flash your scooter: the thing is the newest scooters are protected against installing a custom firmware and not hacked yet.
Was this added in series or in parallel . Trying to get my wires right . + & - to the correct side coming out of the controller . I think the controller shod have a +&- so with two batteries to add power you have one battery’s + from one battery and - from the other battery going to the controller. Then the + & - that’s left gos together. Is that right. I’ve got a 36v am adding iver 12v or 8v battery. To add power to 42or48v . Plus I think I will need to use a relay so it will work when the 12or 8v is switched off. As I do plan on having it as a Opp and not all the time running that type of power. One more thing not sure what u think about controllers. But I think it’s better to over power the controller as if it’s a 48v one there is a low V cut off. So it cuts off at 38v.
So the batter is like 32Range more! If i buy a Xiaomi E Scooter Pro2 With 45Range and put the battery then range extends to 77 This is amazing!!! Im probably looking into buying a new E Scooter And so i can put the extra battery pack on it! Speed is max 20kmh in germany since this nee law but i need the extra battery for longer range!
@@DenisYurev No i meant the Range 45 and with the extra battery it gets 77range But the speed is 20kmh and stays 20kmh since the new german law we can't drive e scooter more than 20kmh on streets public
Thank you for the video. I would like to ask some questions: 1. i got Ninebot G30 Gen 1 which is 36V and I bought another 36V battery from AliExpress which had really good reviews and sells. Do I need Rita adapter in this case while connecting in parallel? 2. In what scenario can external battery explode or something? 3. Do I need to charge these batteries separately, or while connecting them together I can charge them? 4. Do I need to flash my controller if they have the same voltage?
Hello man, thanks for the wonderful video! I want to mod the battery of my Xiaomi Essential, would any 36V battery pack work without modding the Firmware? Appreciate it
Hi! 1. If you want to replace the internal battery to another 36V one without special Xiaomi data connector - you have to flash the scooter to let it accept batteries with no data line. 2. If you want to connect an external 36V battery, using the Y-cable mod - you have to flash the scooter to avoid wrong switching to the charging mode when current flows between batteries. 3. If you connect an external battery throught Rita - no flashing is required, you just plug and ride.
Yes, you can use an internal 48V battery without data lines via Rita. Just don't forget to set Rita properly(set 13 to the "Internal battery serial configuration" parameter) and cut the green jumper
In the specs table with the external battery and only the internal battery, what would be the difference with the rita and without the rita in the case with the external battery? i mean is it the speed, the range in kilometers or the longer battery life?
hi denis..great videos..ive been watching your videos since it wast in engliah.i cant relate exsactly on datas and procedure.thanks for doing some english versions of your video.i am thingking to order a pack of battery package.but the most potent one.atleast muhlch higher on 12s.my question is if im going to order on your website a bigger battery,do i have to use separate charger,one for yhe original 36v..and another one from your external battery package settings?
If the external battery is a common port BMS equipped(one couple of wires for both charging and discharging), then it may be charged via the scooter charging port together with the internal one. If the external battery is a separate port BMS equipped(with a dedicated charging port), then it is not safe to charge batteries together, because Rita charges an external battery via its discharge port, while a separate port BMS is not able to interrupt charging at its discharge port, which may be dangerous. Another thing is the battery must be a 36V one, otherwise original charger will not able to charge it, and you need a new higher voltage charger
Hello, yes, but you must reinforce your controller to use this 12s+ battery. Rita also supports it, but you have to connect it special way, please check the Rita user manual "Using 12s+ batteries" section: public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/English/rita_manual_latest_en.pdf
Hey Denis! Can i still use the Standard 250w Motor, or should i get a 350w Motor? because with the speed upgrade i have a higher voltage right? Because im thinkin about getting a higher watt motor so it works better when i buy the speed and range upgrade for my xiaomi pro 2
Hi, stock motor is fine. Most of "350W" motors you can see at the market are mega shit. You know, you can go to a shop and buy a 1.5L milk instead of 1L. But it does not work with motors at all, it's not enough to just compare 250 vs 350, there are many other parameters and especially quality.
They are "balanced" like they would connected via 2 diodes. The higher voltage battery is discharged first, until the batteries voltages are equal, then they are being discharged together "in parallel"
Can you made such device/inteface for scooters which do not have BMS comunication to mainbooard? I have only Power cable and charge cable from battery pack.
Hi. What if I have a second Xiaomi essential scooter and want to take out the batter from it and connect it to my main one, does the way how I do it changes from the one presented by you in the video?
Hi! It's NOT SAFE and STRONGLY NOT RECOMMENDED to use an original Xiaomi battery as an external one, because its BMS does not protect it from overcharge via its discharge output. You need a battery equipped with a common port BMS, while the original one is separate port BMS equipped.
Hi, no you can't. The Rita limitation is that internal battery voltage must be less or equal then the external one. 48V internal battery is 13s, so you can use it together with a 13s, 14s or 15s external one. We don't sell 13s external batteries, so if you want to by in my shop, the perfect choice is 12s internal + 12s external.
Hi! Yes, of course it is possible, but I don't provide a mount for this, and you have to think about how to secure the bag. And you also need to extend the wire from Rita.
@@DenisYurev thank you. I'm going to buy your kit at this Christmas. Has your shop also an extender for the wire? I'm not sure to put the bag on the top, but I would like trying.
Hi Dennis, I have an essential scooter and just received Rita 4gen. But now I’m aware of my 10s4p battery is with two different cables. One for charging and one for discharging (usage). Not with a common port BMS. 1) Will I be able to use that battery with Rita 4gen securely if I ensure to disconnect external battery when charging. And ensure external battery is charged using external charger? 2: The essential charges batteries in running mode when I brake. Will this setup damage something when using an external battery without a common port BMS using Rita 4gen? Looking forward to hear from you. BR René
Hi! 1. The most convenient way for your separate port bms equipped battery is to leave two Rita charging lines not connected. That allows you to keep the external battery connected during charging, and just plug 2 chargers at the same time. Check more information in the user manual is "Batteries charging" section - public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/English/rita_manual_latest_en.pdf 2. Generally, in theory, it may be unsafe, because recovery current goes to an external battery via its discharge port, which can not be disabled by a separate port bms. But in real world this situation is almost unreacheable, because recovery current is not too much to overcharge a battery. Even original Xiaomi battery works this way.
i have a very similar scooter would this work on a iscooter ? the controller is not bms the original battery is i think a cheap cineese part im reading 35.1 volts but should be 37 volts i just have charge conector and x60 connector there is no data line its a 350W motor or could i just use a Y cable
@@DenisYurev would i need a bigger charging pack ideally i want to charge both packs from the original charge port without routing a 2nd line through allso do you post to the uk i need one of them bags if not could you provide the 3d print files ? ill also add a 20 or 30amp inline fuse to the y cable for overload protection
@@harryhimpson5663 Take a look at the following post, there is a good explaination how y-cable operates: m365.embedden.com/double_your_xiaomi_scooter_range_for_100_usd I can ship to the UK, but I can not guarantee that my bag fits your non-Xiaomi scooter. I do not share bag mount files, sorry. A 20-30A fuse is a great idea.
Hi Denis, If it's easy for you to share this info (I've asked several forum with no luck sofar) , I would like to know the reference of the power cables (awg...) in the deck of the M365, also the reference of dataline wires (the three wires twisted green yellow white) And also the reference of the white connector of the dataline, it is a JS-3 pin but there is perhaps a reference of size or type? (For the connectors on the power cables it's XT30 isn't it?) Many thanks, Florent
Hi. Original power wires are 16AWG 200° silicone. Rita power wires are 16AWG, except the external battery one, which is 14AWG. Original power plug is xt30. Data wires are regular common ones. Data plug is jst pap-03v-s
Does this same method apply for a kugoo g2 pro? I love my scooter but I want more range.. so wondered of this can he done across the range of most or all scooters? Thanks
Do we have any solution to the problem that the link for mi 1s cfw is down? Is it possible to use the pro2 link or is it still possible to flash in xiaoflasher for the 1s? Kind regards
Hi, I am sorry, I have no time at this moment. But you may ask all your questions in my telegram group: t.me/m365_custom_electronics_en There are a lot of people who have succesfully installed a 15s battery, and they share the experience
Maybe you explained it in the video but do you need to recharge the external battery separately or do you use the usual battery charging hole and it charges both at the same time ?
@@DenisYurev Oh ok cool, also what's the difference in terms of what is in the package you ship between the range boost and the range+speed options on the website ? What changes ?
OK before I order this, I have a question. I have a standard m365 with a pro dashboard and custom firmware gonka 1.50 installed. If I buy the the range kit will this work alongside the gonka firmware and pro dash board?
@@DenisYurev Hi Denis if I buy Rita and 12s external battery for m365 pro, is it possible to reach even faster maximum speed than 36km/h by changing other parameters when flashing the controller using your website?
Will this work on a Hiboy S2? It’s on the same platform. I just want more range, don’t wanna flash the controller. So probably stick to the same voltage as the internal battery (I think 36-40v) but maybe I could just get a battery with the same voltage but with a little higher Ah for the external? Would I be able to charge both the original internal battery and the external battery with the original s2 charger, and the original charging port on the scooter?
Hi, you can use a 36V external battery, connected via Y-cable. You can read about it in the post below(it's about internal battery, but joining principle is the same): e-scooters.embedden.com/blog/double-your-xiaomi-e-scooter-range-for-100/
@@DenisYurev I’m thinking a 36v 20Ah is what I will use as an external. Maybe that’ll work. Will the Rita work with the Hiboy S2? It’s a close match to the m365.
Just received my rita today instalation was simple due to the great video's and information you get from David. And you own a xiaomi pro. Thanks.
you are a genius - hope you make a million
Thanks)
@@DenisYurev ciao mi interessa una batteria extra. Mio numero di telefono e il mio numero e 3402495879grazie Davide WhatsApp
Hello, does it works with Xiaomi 1s?
@@nanyibanks yes
@@DenisYurev essential?
Brilliant video 😎
My son's pro version does
27 km 😀
I will buy this upgrade kit for him soon
Thanks!
You stopped the music when the old lady crossed the road... 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Great tutorial and nice effect!
A fews days I became my Boost kit and I´m so excited to start eating the rout. Thanks Denis and your staff. Blessings
I’m interested in the kit! Looking to upgrade my xiaomi m365 for my wife so she can have similar range as my msuper x when we go on rides together :)
Well done ! Love your videos so well explained and edited. Subscribed
"You can buy a Chinese battery on Ali express, but it will be an almost guaranteed piece of shit" 🤣🤣
Hahahaha so funny how he said 😂😂😂
Very professional demonstration and video
Your "hack" is incredible!One question is it compatible with pro 2?
EDIT: Yes it is,I read it on your website.
So it works on the pro 2? Has there been any side effects in relation to the battery, power etc?
Do the pro 2 get also the 20% more speed?
my top speed is 45kmh with range + speed boost kit and i have pro2
@@perunao4823
Hey stock pro2 motor too? Or upgraded motor?
@@CA-RC stock motor
just installed mine and couldn't be happier, easy to connect and install and with my 15Ah extra battery and limit amps to 25 i am getting 80km range on my pro 2 now. thanks again
Hi bro rita is complete with xiaomi pro2? Is different battery then m365 pro cable
@@mrzoro6121 i have pro2 and fits perfect, all plugs fit. not sure about non pro m365. takes 10 mins to install and works perfect, i added a 15Ah battery as extra and I adjusted firmware to max of 20 amps now I get 80km range
@@matt060383 I have new motherboard FSESC4.20 50A where I can conect the data battery cable is problem
@@mrzoro6121 just watch the video, if its different than the stock board then it probably wont work
@@matt060383 thanx bro
Hello my friend can i do this on a aovo pro m365 scooter?
Hi! Unfortunately no. Only original Xiaomi and Ninebot scooters are supported.
The piece of cable you used in 2:50 do i need to have that or did you just use it to pull it out of the scooter?
Any wire is fine)
Great video! One question: If you flash your xiaomi scooter, will this affect the warranty and serial number of the scooter? And can I "remove" the flash or change it back to the default settings?
Thanks for the detailed tutorial!
😁
1. This will remove your warranty. 2. It will have no impact on the Serial Number. 3. You can easily flash it back to original firmware.
@@teamcreativity1779 Thanks a ton! I've found no answer at all online.
@@natagush I'm Happy, to be helpful
I watched your video, when you were riding I thought, that looks very familiar. Kraków to Andrychów 😂
Yeah, all polish cities are pretty similar - rynek glowny, zamek. etc). I would say they all are very nice, I like it)
Can you use this kit on the mi essential scooter?
Yes
Denis ur the best! New sub bro :)
Thanks!
Thorough asf 💪🏋
Hi one more thing if I chose your speed/ range 12s pack and kept my normal internal battery which battery drains first
12s external is drained first, until it's about 20-30%. Then they are drained together.
hopefully that u will still produce these awesome mod products in the coming years..😭😭 cause once i have my scooter, u better still keep producing these mod products.😭😭
Hello!
Do you get yourself a electric scooter?
Отличное видео! Спасибо
Hello! Im looking to buy this one but want to use a 13s (48v) external battery. When will you release a video about the installation of a 48v battery with Rita? I remember ypu saying in a video that the installation is a little bit special with higher voltages. Keep up the great work! 🤗
Thanks! Not sure that I will release it soon, because I have a lot of work. Generally, for 48 volts battery you have to
1. Upgrade the controller for higher voltage support.
2. Cut 12s+ jumper at Rita and then connect it regular way.
This information is also presented in the user manual:
public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/English/rita_manual_latest_en.pdf
And you can join my public support telegram group, there are some guys who sucessfully connected 13s battery:
t.me/m365_custom_electronics_en
this will work fine on the xioami scooter 3 right?
Yes, but sometimes it's not easy to flash this model. Check if you are able to flash it first. Nevertheless, if you can't - you can still use 10s(36V) batteries with Rita. But you must flash the scooter for higher voltage batteries
*can you hook up another battery with different voltge or does it have to be the same. Example 36 V and 48v?*
I aiamagine no, just connect the same voltages but people on a fb page say you can. Thanks for the response
The main idea of Rita adapter is to be able to connect 36V and 48 batteries together. The answers is: yes, you can connect 36V and 48V batteries in parallel using my Rita device.
brilliant, makes a lot easier, when first using can you use normal charging port, or will it require another charger to first charge external to same as internal
Hey I just ordered an extra battery to do this but now found out that the one I ordered can’t be charged in parallel with the xiaomi, it has to be charged separate - can’t be charged thru discharge wires. Hoping this won’t be too big an issue. If you have any advice or tips or anything plz do let me know. Thanks
Hello, is the external battery safe to drive with during rain? I use my scooter for daily commuting and sometimes there's no choice but to drive while it's raining, which makes me worry that an external battery is a bad idea for my use.
Also, my use of the stock battery sometimes causes overheating during long drives as I modified the firmware to draw more current for hill climbing. Does the RITA adapter evenly distribute the load between two batteries or does it always drain the external one first? I'd just like to know if I should opt for the 12s battery pack over the 10s. Thank you in advance!
Hi,
1. I would say it is safe to ride during rain if your battery is packed and sealed well. My batteries are good enough.
2. Rita drains a single higher voltage battery first. Then, when batteries voltages are equal, the current is shared between batteries. A 10s external battery is the best choice for you, becase it operates together with the internal battery all the time, while a 12s battery must be discharged by 50% before its voltage drops to 41-42V to start operating together with the interbal one.
Great video! I have mi1s but can't flash with m365downg and I want to buy external battery for better speed (now it is 25kph). Can you recommend something?
I'd recommend joining my telegram community: there are many battery makers - t.me/m365_custom_electronics_en
Hello mate! Very good this tutorial!
Can you send all the pack(increade the speed and battery) to UK?
Hello, I was able to send parcel to the UK 2 weeks ago, but for now there are some difficults due to COVID and BREXIT. Hope the troubles will dissapear in a few weeks since the UK and EU arranged the trading deal.
@@DenisYurev how much does your pack cost for UK
Hi Dennis sorry for the vague question which is I have a 48 volt battery without data wires on it only 2 wires charge wire and power wire the controller has had bms skipped I’m not using xiaomi battery at all can I still use Rita with this set cheers
Whats the load time of the two batteries (36v two times) is than 18h
iam used the original m365 battery and an additional 36V 10Ah battery(liitokala) for around a year.
The charging time with the original xiaomi charger for both connected was 6 - 8 hours.
If you use a cheap China charger, as is usually included with cheap China Batteries it can really take 12 - 16 hours+
I don't know how Rita affects the loading time, iam using the 12s now.
greets :)
thumb up for Cracow ride
Do you have stock in right now? And how long to ship to the UK?
Yes, I have in stock. About 5-10 days to the UK from Poland
@@DenisYurev hi this kite can be installed on the Dualtron mini with Rita ?
Hi Dennis, You are doing great work. Do you plan to modify your products to suit the Xiaomi Pro 2 soon?
Hi, it is compatible with PRO2
I want to do mine to be how can I see you
What is that phone dashboard program you're using while riding called? at 5:25
m365tools by peretti
very nice video, thanks for your time
Hi Denis, will you be uploading the internal battery upgrade solution video anytime soon? Looking forward to that one.
Hi! Yes, I remember I promised, but I have suspended the internal battery project a bit. I will release it later. At this moment my priority project is Ninebot MAX version of Rita.
i push 43km on my xiaomi pro on standard mode, 30% at the end of the trip (this is really slow 21 kph, on sport mode i think the range will be much lower)
I would love to test how an external will affect the pro model that already comes with a 70% larger internal battery than the regular.
My regular m365 only gets at best 20km on standard mode.
I tried my same trip in sport mode and I would estimate make 32km range. I cut the trip short at around 50% mark so I would have charge to return. Only made it about 16km one way, had about 15% at 32km but the batt said 5% the next day just left in my room.
Sir,,,if idon't have that rita still have no problem for the connection...tnx sir Dennis ..
This is amazing. Does it work with my Mi Scooter 3?
Hi, yes, it works, but you have to ensure you are able to flash your scooter: the thing is the newest scooters are protected against installing a custom firmware and not hacked yet.
@@DenisYurev i already flashed my Scooter with xiodash. So, it works right?
@@tripertronic6065 Yes, it's 100% compatible then
Was this added in series or in parallel . Trying to get my wires right . + & - to the correct side coming out of the controller . I think the controller shod have a +&- so with two batteries to add power you have one battery’s + from one battery and - from the other battery going to the controller. Then the + & - that’s left gos together. Is that right. I’ve got a 36v am adding iver 12v or 8v battery. To add power to 42or48v
. Plus I think I will need to use a relay so it will work when the 12or 8v is switched off. As I do plan on having it as a Opp and not all the time running that type of power. One more thing not sure what u think about controllers. But I think it’s better to over power the controller as if it’s a 48v one there is a low V cut off. So it cuts off at 38v.
Hello can you explain to me the part when you use your phone after connecting the battery 4:02 4:03
So the batter is like 32Range more!
If i buy a Xiaomi E Scooter Pro2 With 45Range and put the battery then range extends to 77
This is amazing!!! Im probably looking into buying a new E Scooter
And so i can put the extra battery pack on it!
Speed is max 20kmh in germany since this nee law but i need the extra battery for longer range!
45 km at PRO2 is unreacheable in real life. 30 km is the maximum.
@@DenisYurev No i meant the Range 45 and with the extra battery it gets 77range
But the speed is 20kmh and stays 20kmh since the new german law we can't drive e scooter more than 20kmh on streets public
Thank you for the video. I would like to ask some questions:
1. i got Ninebot G30 Gen 1 which is 36V and I bought another 36V battery from AliExpress which had really good reviews and sells. Do I need Rita adapter in this case while connecting in parallel?
2. In what scenario can external battery explode or something?
3. Do I need to charge these batteries separately, or while connecting them together I can charge them?
4. Do I need to flash my controller if they have the same voltage?
Are you still not shipping to the UK? Do you know when you will be able to?
Hi! Yes, I am still not able to ship batteries to the UK. I have no idea when DPD will resume the service.
@@DenisYurev Okay, do you recommend any websites I could buy the battery? I don’t want a cheap rip off
Hello man, thanks for the wonderful video! I want to mod the battery of my Xiaomi Essential, would any 36V battery pack work without modding the Firmware? Appreciate it
Hi!
1. If you want to replace the internal battery to another 36V one without special Xiaomi data connector - you have to flash the scooter to let it accept batteries with no data line.
2. If you want to connect an external 36V battery, using the Y-cable mod - you have to flash the scooter to avoid wrong switching to the charging mode when current flows between batteries.
3. If you connect an external battery throught Rita - no flashing is required, you just plug and ride.
@@DenisYurev Thanks man! I am going to use Rita anyways! Gotta get some extra milage! :)
Hi Denis, I just want to ask what is that application on your phone that shows all the times voltages etc???
Hi, m365tools
Thank you Dennis
You are welcome!
Sorry Dennis can the Rita be used without the data line from the 48 volt aftermarket battery it’s the Monorim 48 14.4 mah battery
Yes, you can use an internal 48V battery without data lines via Rita. Just don't forget to set Rita properly(set 13 to the "Internal battery serial configuration" parameter) and cut the green jumper
What does the extra batteri do?
In the specs table with the external battery and only the internal battery, what would be the difference with the rita and without the rita in the case with the external battery? i mean is it the speed, the range in kilometers or the longer battery life?
+20-30 km range, +20% speed, a little bit more battery life since tle load is shared.
Hey man :)
I have s1
And like your video!
Do you send this items to Israel.?
Hi! I can send all except batteries to Israel
hi denis..great videos..ive been watching your videos since it wast in engliah.i cant relate exsactly on datas and procedure.thanks for doing some english versions of your video.i am thingking to order a pack of battery package.but the most potent one.atleast muhlch higher on 12s.my question is if im going to order on your website a bigger battery,do i have to use separate charger,one for yhe original 36v..and another one from your external battery package settings?
How is that with the charging of the battery? Is it charged with the original charger or must the spare battery be charged separately?
If the external battery is a common port BMS equipped(one couple of wires for both charging and discharging), then it may be charged via the scooter charging port together with the internal one. If the external battery is a separate port BMS equipped(with a dedicated charging port), then it is not safe to charge batteries together, because Rita charges an external battery via its discharge port, while a separate port BMS is not able to interrupt charging at its discharge port, which may be dangerous.
Another thing is the battery must be a 36V one, otherwise original charger will not able to charge it, and you need a new higher voltage charger
Hi, do you happen to know by any chance if the mi 3 battery is the same as 365? Thanks
Hi, it's the same.
So i need now extra connector to load the second batery of 36v
Can you made this for ninebot g30 max please
Ok, I hope to finish it soon)
I would like to by one of your kits or pre-order if possible I have a xiaomi pro m365 thanks. Great videos very informative.
m365.embedden.com
@@DenisYurev sorry but what is the cost in us dollar and shipping I live in Hawaii. Thanks so pumped to get.
Just about to order this Denis. Will it work with 48v 42ah 1000watt 13s3p 18650 Battery Pack Mh1 54.6v pls?
Hello, yes, but you must reinforce your controller to use this 12s+ battery.
Rita also supports it, but you have to connect it special way, please check the Rita user manual "Using 12s+ batteries" section:
public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/English/rita_manual_latest_en.pdf
@@DenisYurev Thank you very much for your reply. Love the product. U legend.
whats the link of that pcb with connectors
Hey Denis!
Can i still use the Standard 250w Motor, or should i get a 350w Motor?
because with the speed upgrade i have a higher voltage right?
Because im thinkin about getting a higher watt motor so it works better when i buy the speed and range upgrade for my xiaomi pro 2
Hi, stock motor is fine. Most of "350W" motors you can see at the market are mega shit. You know, you can go to a shop and buy a 1.5L milk instead of 1L. But it does not work with motors at all, it's not enough to just compare 250 vs 350, there are many other parameters and especially quality.
Hi do you have the 'Range+speed boost kit' in stock? Delivery to the UK. How long will the delivery take?
Hello, I need about 3-5 business days to assemble the battery, and then I will ship
@@DenisYurev Ok great thank you, I will buy the full kit on Wednesday my friend.
This two batteries how much km work and we can use two batteries by one time conetted
Hi Denis, how do I improve the performance on my pure air lr ??
How is the battery selected,? Or are they connected in paralell due the Rita?
They are "balanced" like they would connected via 2 diodes. The higher voltage battery is discharged first, until the batteries voltages are equal, then they are being discharged together "in parallel"
@@DenisYurev thank you
Can you made such device/inteface for scooters which do not have BMS comunication to mainbooard?
I have only Power cable and charge cable from battery pack.
No, I can't
Hi. What if I have a second Xiaomi essential scooter and want to take out the batter from it and connect it to my main one, does the way how I do it changes from the one presented by you in the video?
Hi!
It's NOT SAFE and STRONGLY NOT RECOMMENDED to use an original Xiaomi battery as an external one, because its BMS does not protect it from overcharge via its discharge output. You need a battery equipped with a common port
BMS, while the original one is separate port BMS equipped.
@Denis Yurev thanks for the answer.
Hi Dennis I have a 365 pro 2 and I’m putting in 48 volt internal battery could I use your 12 s range battery as well
Hi, no you can't. The Rita limitation is that internal battery voltage must be less or equal then the external one. 48V internal battery is 13s, so you can use it together with a 13s, 14s or 15s external one.
We don't sell 13s external batteries, so if you want to by in my shop, the perfect choice is 12s internal + 12s external.
Cheers Dennis
Hi Denis, where can i get this "RITA double battery adapter" that you showed to your video???
Hi, m365.embedden.com
Can you ship to slovenia? if not anywhere else I can find the rita adapter?
Yes, I ship to Slovenia from Poland. You can place an order here: m365.embedden.com/
Can you send the complete kit to Australia ?
Hi! Unfortunately no, because it is very hard so ship a big lithium battery by air due to restrictions)
Hi Denis. Is possible to put the battery bag on the top of the handlebar rod, facing outward, instead of the place down in the video?
Hi! Yes, of course it is possible, but I don't provide a mount for this, and you have to think about how to secure the bag. And you also need to extend the wire from Rita.
@@DenisYurev thank you. I'm going to buy your kit at this Christmas. Has your shop also an extender for the wire? I'm not sure to put the bag on the top, but I would like trying.
In installing an external battery for xiaomi essential lite that has a y split wire ready to plug and play, do I need to flash or nah?
Are you Russian living in Kraków? I am going to order boost kit, you have done very great job my friend!
Thanks)
Hello, do you have a product that is compatible with the Hiboy s2? It is a clone of the m365. Nice video!
Hi Dennis,
I have an essential scooter and just received Rita 4gen.
But now I’m aware of my 10s4p battery is with two different cables. One for charging and one for discharging (usage). Not with a common port BMS.
1) Will I be able to use that battery with Rita 4gen securely if I ensure to disconnect external battery when charging. And ensure external battery is charged using external charger?
2: The essential charges batteries in running mode when I brake. Will this setup damage something when using an external battery without a common port BMS using Rita 4gen?
Looking forward to hear from you.
BR René
Hi!
1. The most convenient way for your separate port bms equipped battery is to leave two Rita charging lines not connected. That allows you to keep the external battery connected during charging, and just plug 2 chargers at the same time. Check more information in the user manual is "Batteries charging" section - public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/English/rita_manual_latest_en.pdf
2. Generally, in theory, it may be unsafe, because recovery current goes to an external battery via its discharge port, which can not be disabled by a separate port bms. But in real world this situation is almost unreacheable, because recovery current is not too much to overcharge a battery. Even original Xiaomi battery works this way.
Does this also work with the new Scooter MI3 from Xiaomi? I think it should, but i'm not sure because I haven't found any vid regarding this
Hi, yes, it works
i have a very similar scooter would this work on a iscooter ? the controller is not bms the original battery is i think a cheap cineese part im reading 35.1 volts but should be 37 volts i just have charge conector and x60 connector there is no data line its a 350W motor or could i just use a Y cable
Hi, I am pretty sure you can simply use y-cable
@@DenisYurev would i need a bigger charging pack ideally i want to charge both packs from the original charge port without routing a 2nd line through allso do you post to the uk i need one of them bags if not could you provide the 3d print files ? ill also add a 20 or 30amp inline fuse to the y cable for overload protection
@@harryhimpson5663 Take a look at the following post, there is a good explaination how y-cable operates: m365.embedden.com/double_your_xiaomi_scooter_range_for_100_usd
I can ship to the UK, but I can not guarantee that my bag fits your non-Xiaomi scooter.
I do not share bag mount files, sorry.
A 20-30A fuse is a great idea.
How do I get hold of RITA attachment to enhance operation of scooter?
Hi, I did not understand the question.
Is there a UK version of the charger?
Yes, I include a special adapter for UK customers
@@DenisYurev oh thats perfect, will definitely be ordering when you've got it back in stock!
Have you got any stock my friend
Hi would this also work on an aovo pro scooter thanks
Hi! Unfortunately no, only original Xiaomi and Ninebot are supported.
Can i connect 12s battery in rita adapter without bms or i must connect with bms
What software/app is used to flash the controller?
Regards, Chris
These days the best choice is "Scooter Hacking Utility" or "XiaoDash"
Very useful video. Does it work on Xiaomi Scooter 3?
Yes, it works.
@@DenisYurev ty
No details , what is the device 🤔 you put there ?
Hi Denis,
If it's easy for you to share this info (I've asked several forum with no luck sofar) , I would like to know the reference of the power cables (awg...) in the deck of the M365, also the reference of dataline wires (the three wires twisted green yellow white)
And also the reference of the white connector of the dataline, it is a JS-3 pin but there is perhaps a reference of size or type?
(For the connectors on the power cables it's XT30 isn't it?)
Many thanks,
Florent
Hi. Original power wires are 16AWG 200° silicone. Rita power wires are 16AWG, except the external battery one, which is 14AWG. Original power plug is xt30. Data wires are regular common ones. Data plug is jst pap-03v-s
Does this same method apply for a kugoo g2 pro? I love my scooter but I want more range.. so wondered of this can he done across the range of most or all scooters? Thanks
Hi! At this moment Xiaomi scooters only are supported. Ninebot MAX G30 support is upcoming
Sehr gutes Video
Do we have any solution to the problem that the link for mi 1s cfw is down? Is it possible to use the pro2 link or is it still possible to flash in xiaoflasher for the 1s? Kind regards
One of solutions is to use a paid XiaoFlasher version, with the firmware builder included.
Can you make a video on how to install a 15s battery
Hi, I am sorry, I have no time at this moment. But you may ask all your questions in my telegram group:
t.me/m365_custom_electronics_en
There are a lot of people who have succesfully installed a 15s battery, and they share the experience
Maybe you explained it in the video but do you need to recharge the external battery separately or do you use the usual battery charging hole and it charges both at the same time ?
Hi, both batteries are charged simultaneously via the standard charging plug
@@DenisYurev Oh ok cool, also what's the difference in terms of what is in the package you ship between the range boost and the range+speed options on the website ? What changes ?
@@majorpandaru150 Range+speed battery is a higer voltage one, so it grants extra speed, but requires a new higher voltage charger
Hi can you please tell me were i can buy one of those controller you place in front of the batteries in your video thanks Graham
Hello, you can purchase it in my shop: m365.embedden.com/
6:09 the scooter stopped at total 1337.99km 😎
OK before I order this, I have a question. I have a standard m365 with a pro dashboard and custom firmware gonka 1.50 installed. If I buy the the range kit will this work alongside the gonka firmware and pro dash board?
Yes, it will work out of the box
@@DenisYurev Ok thank you, I've purchased the range kit.
@@DenisYurev Hi Denis if I buy Rita and 12s external battery for m365 pro, is it possible to reach even faster maximum speed than 36km/h by changing other parameters when flashing the controller using your website?
@@S0ftjam with 12s battery you will reach +20% of your current maximum speed.
How cann u remove it pls help
Hi Bro . I'm from Malaysia. Love your videos btw. I wanted to purchase the complete pack but I'm not sure if Malaysia is in the post list.
Hi! You are right, I am not able to ship huge packs to Malaysia. But I can ship a single Rita adapter using a regular post.
Does this works on Kugoo M4 Pro? Great video!!
Unfortunately, today(July 2021) it works with Xiaom scooters only
@@DenisYurev it actually works. Thanks 👍
Will this work on a Hiboy S2? It’s on the same platform.
I just want more range, don’t wanna flash the controller. So probably stick to the same voltage as the internal battery (I think 36-40v) but maybe I could just get a battery with the same voltage but with a little higher Ah for the external?
Would I be able to charge both the original internal battery and the external battery with the original s2 charger, and the original charging port on the scooter?
Hi, you can use a 36V external battery, connected via Y-cable. You can read about it in the post below(it's about internal battery, but joining principle is the same): e-scooters.embedden.com/blog/double-your-xiaomi-e-scooter-range-for-100/
@@DenisYurev I’m thinking a 36v 20Ah is what I will use as an external. Maybe that’ll work.
Will the Rita work with the Hiboy S2? It’s a close match to the m365.
@@PierceBenton-rh5fy No, Rita is compatible with original Xiaomi and Ninebot only. Y-cable is the only option for you