PSVR 2 Teardown: Can We Exchange The Lenses?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- What's inside the PSVR2? In this video we check out the PSVR 2 tear down that Sony has posted! Lets find out about how to get to the lenses and how to detach the cable!
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Love Sony for making official teardowns like this. Seeing inside the headset, and the controllers in a separate video has made the $550 price tag look less painful. It seems really nicely put together, and user fixable years from now with a donor unit.
This is modern day technologic art at it's finest.
That tear down videos is so good! This would typically be a big no no from a corporate company but it just shows how proud they are of the engineering (and rightfully so!). My first thought was can we upgrade the lenses and it looks like it 'may' be possible! Im itching to get mine and wonder if the fresnel will be that bad as no one has mentioned about them being bad (i think i read they are a modified fresnel design). Looks like a fantastic headset. Cant wait! Thanks for the video Sebastian 😀👍
It's not possible to just strap a new pair of lenses. Putting right dimensions aside, each lense model has specific optical distortion, and the software correct it accordingly. The outputted image through another lense would appear distorted.
Also, every part of the unit is tuned to give the best result possible: light intensity, focal distance, eye tracking correction from the rifraction, etc. The engineers that produced it probably know better than us how to create the best possible combination.
@@albertodellavedova963 It literally is possible to just strap a new pair of lenses. You seem to be completely ignoring the fact that people can and in fact have designed commercially available lenses to mod (and improve no less) devices where the lenses could be exchanged fairly easily like in the HTC vive.
They had to tear it down just to show off that sexy intake manifold. Almost automotive in its design.
He’s an absolute genius!
Thank you! And the Sony guy is also not bad! ;)
Wasn't he one of the designers?
@@uppercutgrandma4425 yes he was involved with psvr1 design and lead design team of psvr2. So young and so brilliant!!! Respect to the Japanese people….they’re next level!
opens up the potential for a future wireless headband now the visor can be easily detached
Oh and the lens are glued in so you can not remove them from the holder they are in if you remove the eye tacking sensor, I just tried too, to get to the Lens out, you have to remove the screens, like in the video but do not need to remove everything.
Lens is glue to the holder right...have u success remove the lens or impossible remove
Great to watch the deconstruction. So much technology meshed together in this years new VR headsets. I can’t believe some people complaining about how much the likes of the HTC elite VR costs when you look at the cost of a new iPhone/Samsung. Phones just let us connect to the internet and talk.
When you say exchange the lenses I presume people aren't going to try and replace these with Pan Cake lenses?
Sony, a world leader in optics, have custom designed these to provide the best possible experience for gaming, any other lenses would distort the image and/ or reduce the colour transmission through them. The main advantage pan cake has is to make the headset slimer but at the cost of light passthrough so they would have had to go for either a super bright LCD (a big no for HDR colours) or microOLED which would have pushed the cost closer to $1000.
The other main advantage Fresnel lenses have is they offer the least amount of pupil swim so will lead to less image distortion and reduced nausea.
That aside it was a fantastic teardown video and really showed how much thought and care Sony put into every aspect of the design. I especially love the fan that has a dual function of cooling the SOC and stopping the lenses fogging, just amazing design all round!
There is another type of lenses, aspheric. They have the clarity of pancakes and don't reduce the brightness. However they have 2 disadvantages. They are very expensive and heavy. The only reason why everyone is going with fresnels is because they are cheapest. Varjo goes with aspheric, but you can see the cost of those headsets. Sony could of went with aspheric, but you already have people whining $550 is too much for PSVR 2, so they had to save money on lenses. The option for enthusiast users to spend some extra cash and get better lenses in headset would be great.
Pancake lenses would certainly reduce the brightness significantly, and wouldn't make a significant difference to the weight since their primary advantage in that department is allowing the screens to be much closer to the lenses, whereas the PSVR2 design is fixed. So I agree that I don't think that would be a very good idea.
However, when I replaced the Fresnel lenses on my HTC Vive with the aspheric lenses from the Samsung Gear VR, it was an enormous upgrade. I didn't experience significant pupil swim, though granted the FOV was less than that of the PSVR2 so it's riskier in this case. Meanwhile I've never experienced a Fresnel lenses that wasn't super blurry as soon as I looked away from the exact center of the rings. I'm aware that Sony has a patent on an improved Fresnel lens design, but I'm not optimistic that they have achieved anything comparable to the clarity of an aspheric lens.
I suspect the point is moot, however, as I highly doubt you'd be able to modify the distortion profile calibrated for the original lens!
@@SSJ3Tim Can't wait for "all of the goodnes to come up" with Sebastian doing trough the lenses video. I have been watching MRTV video yesterday showing Reverb G2 trough the lenses. As both PSVR 2 and G2 should have around the same PPD and both displays use RGB stripe. So trough the lens video of G2 could give a good idea of what kind of clarity to expect. With a lot better colors and brightness on HDR OLED of PSVR 2 ofc.
@@blabla1177-r7u Not expensive. GearVR has them and is not heavy, nor expensive. Picture clarity is much better than Oculus GO
I was thinking the exact same thing! Might buy a broken pico and try it out.
Just a few more days!!! Are you excited??
I'm really excited for the Psvr2, but how does the Psvr2 fresnel compare to the pancake on quest pro, I love my Quest pro but I will also purchase Psvr2, my major concern is that lens (Sony why why why?. )
Amazing build quality, not just for ease of repair like you said but the actual _quality_ is better than almost every other option because next to nothing is glued down, truly impressive.
Not only does Sony have excellent engineers but they recognize them for their amazing work. Other manufactures have started doing this but as far as I know Sony were the ones that started it.
All you complainers still think this too expensive?!! Don't forget this comes with 2 controllers too! BTW, fun fact: I was the first guy to do the "gear vr lens mod" to the Vive.
This is cheap but it's the fact it costs more than the console and NEEDS the console which has confused people
@@ThepurposeofTime who is confused it’s called PlayStation vr, pc vr headsets cost a lot more and the computer required costs more then the ps5.
@@jakenader2265 confused people on the price. They see Quest 2 for £300 which needs nothing and then they see PSVR2 which needs console
People complain about the price because they were confused. .... understand?
600 is alot bro. They coulda made them at least the same price authentic console
@@queal1995 How much did your monitor cost?
Best way to get additional unit sales. Get everyone opening them up and forgetting how to put them back together again, and then mention in the EULA that the warranty is void if you take it apart.
That warning was already in the beginning of the official video.
@@SjaakSchulteis Funny then that they would have officially sanctioned videos showing people how to completely take it apart lol.
My lenses after not using the VR for months look like they've been sliding across a road , look scratched or scuffed up but literally haven't been used , thought it was just sweat or grease from eyelashes but it won't come off , making the VR completely unusable , any suggestions?
They did a PS VR2 Sense Controller Teardown as well.
Yes, You can change the both lens with the new one.
Amazing video and great to see Sony doing this and allowing the designer some time in the limelight!
Big warning in the beginning of the Japanese video: do not attempt this at home. Your warranty will be voided if you do so! Man I'm overwhelmed by it. I already took one of my Quest2 controllers apart to exchange the joystick and I barely managed to do so. This one would be a disaster for me. At least it would take hours of stop and go watching the whole system. But they deserve a lot of praise for the design. Fixing a broken camera will be possible without damaging glued parts, because there are none! Great video.
A small TH-cam channel tried to get new lenses made for the Lenovo HMD. It turned out that it was very expensive to make biconvex lenses with the same properties as the original fresnel lenses. Not so expensive that a company could not do it, but too much for the youtuber. Lets hope a third party develops lenses in a collaboration with Sony.
I love the repairability and lets hope Sony makes a webshop for parts!
My lenses came with a smudge behind and I was hoping removing them for cleaning was easy but it's basically the last part you have access to...
Diopter correction is a vital basic function if they want the very numerous rich old people to buy their VR headset so we can use computer without expensive spectacles and monitors!
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 Well, I’m old (kind of). I deny using the word “old” as a swear word. I love to be old. And to be rich:D It does not mean that I can buy a car (I’m not THAT rich) but, next time, I will buy a VR headset and not a monitor. And this is partly because I don’t need glasses or contact lenses to use it (but I can also use it without removing my contact lenses) if diopter correction will be a basic function. Monitors will start to be outdated and die out in a couple of years, and the change will possibly be lead by the old and rich people with presbyopia this time and not geeks or gamers.
Io ce l'ho da 3 mesi, è bello quanto doloroso vederlo smontare anche perché poi non saprei più ripararlo...❤️
As far as prescription lenses are concerned, based on quality and reputation, which of the 3 companies would you go with for PSVR2?
VR Optician, HONSVR or Reloptix?
Of these 3 I simply know VR Optician best. Also there is a 5 percent discount if you use code "MRTV". :)
I'm curious if you could get your eyes closer to the lenses and get more FOV with a different gasket and light shield. Might cause issues with the eye tracking though.
the rubber gasket allows you to get as close as you want
@@Gregoses The light shield might limit how close that is though, and maybe for good reason, just curious.
@@marcossoriano8383 Back on Rift S i got so close that my eye lashes were touching the lenses when i blinked. :D
I was wondering the same, and thought that if replacements can easily be bought, it may be possible to cut the design to a couple less layers. Won't be the end of the world if this can be trialed using a 3rd party silicone cover.
The halo strap design and rubber gasket allows you to get as close as you want, pretty much. There is no facial foam interface as with the ski-mask design.
Even on PSVR1 I could get close enough for my eyelashes to leave marks on the lenses.
This all Sounds so good, can't wait to Play on the 22nd
Cool. I am interested in buying it. I was afraid because of the usb-c cable if it breaks how to change it.
Good question
I think they will sell cable replacement. as shown in the video you can unplug the cable and put a new one
I love hardware too❤
Why didn't he show the display?
work of art
Would be great if someone figures out how to do lens mod so we can switch to aspheric. . What was it in the past? Vive headset with gear VR lenses that added lots of clarity?
Agreed. Aspheric all the way
As far as Fresnel lenses go, the ones in the PSVR2 are probably the best I've ever tried. Sony have a patent for Fresnel lenses with light blocking elements to mitigate stray light bleed. I didn't notice any god rays, for example.
@Tradition that's good to know at the very least. I don't like fresnel at all
How wide is the max IPD? Is what I want to know.
11:50 bro I was not ready for that
You won't be slapping pancake in these; those block 90% of light apparently and imo need more development to increase that.
It's a very good headset overall.
I hope someone makes a Wifi Portable module for it some day, something you can clip on belt and plug it in and move around wirelessly. Make it a torso tracker also, be awesome. Might not be possible until Wifi7....
Or a few years from now Sony could release a WiFi 7 based dedicated USB-C encoder/transmitter for the front of the PS5, and a matching wireless decoder/receiver battery powered headband that you simply swap out yourself, as that initial part of the disassembly seems easy and requires no tools. Almost like it was designed for a user to be able to do.
Everyone in the comments: pAnCAkLeNSes!
Me: Can’t wait to replace the outer cover with a clear one ❤
so Eye tracking IR LED to your eyes? we wouldn't go blind would we?
Fresnel lenses.... Ok for a 2018 headset I guess. I have this headset on preorder. Not sure if that was a right descision now. I didn't even consider that they would use fresnel lenses on a new headset in 2023.
The lenses Sony have used here are their own proprietary fresnel. They are used specifically because they work with the HDR. Do you believe that if Sony could, they wouldn't have used other types of lenses? They used aspheric for the PSVR1. These lenses will be perfectly fine. No need to replace them.
Sony PR worked well on you. ;)
Just received a replacement vr 2 if I turn the lenses are rattling how do I fix
What about reprojection and performance
Ive had mine for 22 days and its developed a whirring sound within the headset - I hadn't noticed this up until 2 days ago.I assume its the fan? Its quite distracting - maybe its a defective unit...
Taking it apart is easy. Reassembly not so much !
I want the beanie/hat your wearing, forget about the PS VR :)
Did it have an active cooling fan before or is that new? I hope that its not noisy.
It's new. I'm pretty sure it would be silent
My PSVR 2 lenses are completely scratched up from my glasses. I want to replace them…does Sony sell lenses for the PSVR 2?
VR ROCK sells prescription lenses for the psvr2
dude i need to clean my lensse from inside
Don't recommend anyone try this unless you have the suitable background knowledge. Still interesting to watch.
*Someone need to be working on replacing the Valve Index horrible lenses...*
I hope we could use aspheric lenses on this
@Storm Shadow GFX Aspheric are better and have larger FOV
Play it with sun glasses if you want to ruin the brightness of PSVR2.
This is awesome....except, unless they are willing to sell parts (they are not) this doesn't help anyone. Sony just informed me that I am SOL due to the scratches from my glasses on my VR2 lenses. There is a blurry spot right in the middle of each lens from the random incidental contact between my glasses lenses and the VR2 lenses. They will not sell you parts. This has basically junked a $600 piece of hardware after about 6 weeks (50h) of use, and I can't afford another VR2...So if you wear glasses - PLEASE get prescription inserts or lens protectors...please...
Opening PSVR2 it is cool, but I saw opening Pico 4 it is more incredible))
A minha psvr2 na escanear a área
All I care is prescription lenses. please find a comfortable solution. Do we have to wait on Sony another 5 yrs with diopters.
VR Rock sells them.
@@petermulder7480 true thanks, just found them. But will take another year for these companies to sell slimmest and comfortable ones which don’t poke your eyes or nose.
Who in their right mind would attempt to do this unless the unit is broken and out of warranty? 😳 And would they sell any of the individual parts if they need replacement?
There's quite a few tech TH-camrs with the knowledge, skill and funds to do this.
Just imagine if you had to buy this in monthly parts... lol
Isn't it annoying when people take anothers credit?
Whaaaaaat
Clickbait title. You can’t change these to pancake lenses. Stuck with the tiny fresnel sweet spot on psvr2 during its lifetime.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Unless he changed the title since you commented then its not clickbait. How can a title that is a question be clickbait?
@@Jdb63 It's ok to ask a question but the question should be answered in the video or at least discussed. This was just a teardown video. Appropriate title should have been "PSVR2 teardown video".
good its isnt stuck with lcd gray black for its lifetime ;d
@@piotrekf943 Local dimming my friend. Look it up.
Why you pronounce Fresnel lens so awkward?
He correct thought. Saying it Fresnel's native french.
you must be new to VR
Pancake lenses in the PSVR2 would be a downgrade, lower brightness and less vivid colours.
Just keep telling yourself that. Fresnel is already outdated. It’s sad to see this on a device so new that will not receive any hardware upgrades at all during its lifetime. Sad there is no option for wireless too.
@Robert Petrie literally got my quest pro today and Holy shit are the lenses so much better than all my other VR headsets lol
@@crashdude7589 I am enjoying quest pro as well. We will just let the Sony fans have their moment. I don’t notice any ghosting or any problems in the quest pro that they act like they are fixing with fresnel lenses.
Quest pro and played the PSVR2 last year.. the big downside to the PSVR2 is the lenses. My pro looks MUCH clearer and much bigger sweetspot. Saying that PSVR2 still is nice with its OLED.
@@crashdude7589 How are the OLED-HDR displays in the $1500 Quest-Pro?
All that amazing engineering and they ruin it by putting in fresnel lenses, just like HP did with the G2
So no you can't replace them 😂
That's the result of Darwin's evolution
Well..is nice...ps vr 1...cable..90 procent off the time..wos fuc.....as a tehnician...i was trying in the beginning..no replesmend cable ever and schematics or pin leiaut from Sony.. more them haff of the ps vr had that problem..so..possibly this time Sony :)
easy to destroy after damage it hahahaha
The lenses are horrible. I got a set last week and the right eye is always blurry. I hate it