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- Pricing your filmmaking services can be confusing AF. Let's talk about it...
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00:00 - intro
00:32 - Point #1 what’s the budget
02:33 - Point #2 the case for productions
03:42 - Point #3 the case for freelancers
05:42 - DON’Ts
09:47 - recap
The directors i've worked with in the last couple of years told me that going forward, reels are meaningless if you dont get along with people. So if you're reel is exceptional and you get hired once, but you're very difficult to work with, you'll most probably never get hired again.
That has always been the case. But if you're a decent person to start, then reels can definitely help. it's just that the concept of reels is different for director's and cinematographers.
Thanks Nur, awesome content as always👍
Thats a great topic! Thank you Nur!
Learning a lot from your contents. Thank you!
Very helpful and well said. Thank you.
super helpful! thanks man!
Europe based director here. Nur, first of all, thank you for your videos, they bring so much value!
There is one thing in particular that I would like to ask in regard to this topic.
You mentioned that as a director yourself, you want to be paid by daily basis, using day rates. From my experience however it is also quite common to be paid by the percentage of the initial budget, for example if the budget for the commercial is 100.000 USD, the director takes home 15 %, which is 15.000 USD.
I understand that both models have their respective pros and cons and I would love to know your thoughts on this and your reasoning. Thanks again for the value you bring to the community!
I'm also from Europe and i have never heard of a percentage of the budget. Maybe that goes for filmmaking? For commercials i have never heard of it.
@@sjoerdsiemes interesting. Maybe it’s a regional thing. However, I can see how it can be beneficial. For example for productions, it is more transparent as it is often quite unclear how much time the director is gonna spend on the project in preproduction with all the meetings, calls, etc. Sometimes, you have easy three day shoot with almost no prep, sometimes you have one-day shoot but you need to prep for weeks beforehand.
On the other hand, it is less transparent for a director as it allows productions to play with numbers and easily manipulate your paycheck.
@ I think it's very rare to see that in commercials. Though It does occur in the world of features. And the variability of director's effort is exactly why IMO it should stay flat. This way it's easy to calculate, no matter whether it's a lot of prep work or not. Typically the more shoot days - the more prep needs to be done and vice versa.
Nicely done…Thank you.
You have to go out there and fight for it 👏
Great video!
Bro, you genuinely the best TH-cam channel I have ever found! like I've leant so damn much from your video, please don't stop! Still waiting for you to shoot that add for "Another Soap Brand"
still waiting for the 5k likes :D
Currently using the treatment as a template😁
Great advices, thanks!
Will not agree only with DP rate should include an equipment. Very much often it’s separate numbers
Thanks brother!
I mentioned precisely that at 04:28
super helpful
Watching from Colombia 🇨🇴
Could you do a video on starting a production company and the processes one must go through
I’ll be honest - I’m seriously considering starting one soon. Scared shitless. But I feel it’s a natural progression. So I might start a series about that in the near future.
@@nur-niaz i'm in the midst of starting one myself, but without any industry experience. Your transparant video's would be of unimaginable value to me :)
All the way from Tanzania🇹🇿
We gonna meet someday 😅
@@donotieno486
Awesome 💯
Where can I find a good example/template of a basic contract for, let's say, a music video? Thanks
I've found some good ones over at tropicolor once. not free though.
Вот значит где Cаботовский прячется, давно его не видел. Контент как обычно 10/10. Особенно радует уникальность тем, на которые практически никто больше не говорит и не снимает. Еще вопрос - какой здесь мист использован - 1/2 или 1/4?
спасибо! 1/2 pro mist
Question: If you’re a DP, what about gear costs. You mentioned that audio people would charge for gear on top of their day rate. If a DP has gear, wouldn’t they charge on top of the day rate? Wouldn’t you respond with “hey this is my day rate, but if we use my gear my full rate is this. But If we’re not using my stuff, then its just this number”
Thanks for this information, Nur
Sorry it was unclear. Yes, camera, lighting and grip equipment are typically sourced from rentals and are budgeted separately. If a DP owns everything then they can replace the rental in that particular case. But then again as a producer you have to see if it is beneficial going with the DPs own gear or getting everything from a rental they have an established relationship with. Especially when the said DP only owns a camera package and the rest of the gear still needs to be sourced from a rental. Most rentals give discounts when you rent more.
From kenya
U ever thought of doing a course on how to be a commercial director ?
Thought about it and am seriously considering it :)
@@nur-niaz yeah that’s sorta my short term goal but idk how to break into the industry
You said the flat rate at 7:50 but not hourly rate. Where I am confused is how can we calcuate our flat rate?
When I was starting out and knew no one, I would calculate my monthly expenses and then see how many days I can possibly work in a month. And then just divide the sum by the number of days and roll with it. It turned out to be a terrible pricing strategy. After some time and a few more connections I started asking the producers and other directors I met what the typical rates for someone at my level would be. That gave me a rough idea of where I stand in the market.
@@nur-niaz I hardly know any other directors and producers since I am just starting out.
what do you suggest for person like me.
@@mystic_2024 Are you based in a major market where there’s a lot of shoots? In that case it’s easy - look for facebook groups, reddit subs. There’s probably a ton of meetups and industry mixer events. Otherwise you can still look up your local filmmakers on instagram and see what they’re doing and the production companies they work with (they usually mention them in the video descriptions). Approach people who work at those companies.
@@nur-niaz sure thanks,
I am based in nepal which is really small market but I wanna do international video making. and thanks again for the insights you share which is really helpful for a person who wanna do international just like you.
client my budget is 350 5 hundred max
Idk the context, but purely out of what you said it seems you need to up your skills/portfolio and reach out to the production companies that can sell you better.
99% of the time the clients that come to me ALWAYS come to me and ask me what would I charge.