Dual Longplay [36] Super Street Fighter II (Arcade vs Sega Genesis) Side by Side Comparison
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The arcade is better BUT this is an impressive port on the Genesis and it plays perfectly with the 6 button controller.
@@filevans You are right. I should have said conversion to be more exact because in the 16-bit days there was no way the game systems could get a port of a 32-bit arcade game. Don't be too upset, just be happy it happened and people were able to enjoy these games at home. Happy Holidays!
@@filevans Agreed. Set people straight! Happy Thanksgiving and Happy Holidays
I'll always remain impressed that the Ryu intro animates perfectly on the Sega Genesis and isn't missing any frames of animation. The SNES version is missing a lot of them and supplements them with more movement, making Ryu's limbs look floaty.
Nice observation. Megadrive is messing the hadoken start up energy balls that’s floats to Ryu hands. Other than that and slightly redrawn. Frame wise it’s accurate af
Also the SNES intro Ryu doesn't bend his arms at the elbow but only moves them at the shoulder - and his Kimono is stiff as well..!
That's the additional cartridge space, the game has 40megs on Megadrive and 32megs on SNES but it sounds terrible
My then 13 year old self lost sleep waiting for this conversion to hit the shops lol 😁 i must of read the magazine "Mean Machines Sega" over and over 1000 times reading the previews and then review just like i did with sf2 special champion edition 😁 the year before and wasn't disappointed either absolutely loved this port the megadrive was a god in my book. Aye the megadrive they were some good days...good days indeed!
impressive port on the Genesis! Wonderful
ARCADE WINS
GENESIS VERY GOOD PORTS 👍
Good job Capcom for Mega Drive
What amazed me in this comparison is that the 4 stars turbo is always forgotten and that it is not available on snes, unless an action replay code is put. Also in versus mode demo, both snes and md display a 8 stars turbo if you press button while watching a match. Probably the devs wanted to do already ssf2x but were stopped in the middle of their course.
Sega Genesis was a masterpiece of technology
i actually played the genesis version many times as a kid.
The intro looks better on the Sega Genesis only because there's more frames of animation then the arcade!
A conversão mais fiel de todos os consoles, tirando o Neo Geo. O Mega Drive não fez feio não.
Hahahahha, vc ta falando da conversão do Mega pro Arcade né? Megão muito superior, muito mais rápido!
Good port: the biggest differences are in sound and size of the characters..
Da Re and missing animations
What about the blown out colors, the missing backgrounds and missing background animations on the Genesis/MD? Colors on the Genesis look horrendous.
@@Adertitsoff999 Well the Mega Drive is a lot less powerful, but yeah, DJ's background colour looks like an 8 Bit console. They could have done more with an40 mb Cart.
Sega Genesis had smaller sprites of course but it was a great port. Probably the best of the 16-bit era. The best copy of Street Fighter II is the Saturn version.
Actually the sprites are not smaller... the whole game was simply zoomed out a bit. The backgrounds are all proportional and in same alinement. Best part about this is you can see more background details especially in the foreground on genesis
看到這麼多人分享對這個遊戲的喜愛，真的很感動的說！這讓我更想要去挑戰看看，希望能和大家一樣熱愛這款遊戲的說！
A Versão Arcade vai ser sempre superior, porém fizeram um belo trabalho na versão do Mega Drive, eu achei bem próxima a versão do Mega se tratando do limite do aparelho para época ☺.
Excelent port for Genesis
It’s always nice to see a 16bit (MD) keeping pace with a 32bit (CPS II) system.
Essa abertura no Mega Drive com TODOS os quadros de animação do arcade é tão foda!
Melhor comparação sempre é entre a versão original e o Port, nesse caso o Port para mega drive ficou fantástico, jogabilidade praticamente perfeita em relação ao arcade!
Apesar da ampla diferença entre CPS2 e Mega a conversão ficou incrível com praticamente todos os detalhes do arcade, isso me faz pensar pq o Zero 2 foi convertido apenas pro SNES no mega com certeza a conversão seria mais suave pela velocidade.
E com certeza nao teria loading depois do "FIGHT!"
Não saiu por causa do Saturn.... é o que dizem
Flávio Eduardo Pontes The game could be transferred to SNES thanks to the external chip s-dd1 of compression and decomposition of graphs something impossible in MD
O chip DD1 usado no SFAlpha 2 do Snes usava um compactador pra caber mais memoria no cartucho e foi criado pela nintendo. Obviamente não havia um desses para o Mega Drive, mas nada impediria a Sega de criar um. O chip 3D do Mega Drive, o SVP, era muito mais potente que o chip 3D do SNES, o Super FX.
Assim, não seria nada impossivel a Sega ter criado um chip compactador para o Mega até mesmo mais forte que o DD1 da Nintendo. Mas pq ela nao fez? Pq o Mega Drive já não tinha mais suporte e o Saturno já existia... E a conversão do SFalpha2 para Saturno fazia muito mais sentido e sairia mais barato pra Capcom e pra Sega...
Não faria mais sentido a Capcom fazer um Zero 2 pro Nintendo 64 com uma versão tb praticamente perfeita tirando o som que eu acho que não ficaria igual ao invés da versão SNES.
Decent Sega port
You should to compare the hacked version with the new voice sounds and colors now.
Although the color is a little off I love how a system with more limitations was able to be pretty arcade accurate in reproducing the arcade game at home.
Excelente longplay! Parabéns pelo video!!!!
O tom das cores ficaram um.pouco mais escuras no MD e o som em alguns stages ficaram meio estranhos mas os quadros de animaçao estão bem fluidos. Os 8 Mega de diferença entre o cart de snes (32 Mega) e do Mega drive (40 Mega) realmente fez a diferença. Detalhe p musica no stage que eh contínua entre um round e outro.
Mega bit
The Sega Genesis sounds like there's a frog in the narrators voice
VCdecide. Queria saber que magia é essa q vc faz para enfrentar os mesmos oponentes em ambas as versões...
Esse game é muito bom!!! A versão do Mega é bem competente pra época dele!! Contando a limitação do Console!! Eu a pouco tempo descobri que existe esse game para o Dreamcast! Aquela versão é o Arcade e tem até músicas remixadas que ficaram lindas!!! Só a dificuldade é absurda kkk!! Mas de resto é perfeito!!
Is the person on the MD side at least trying to beat the Bonus Games?
I remember my first comparison was in a Funcoland game shop, and til this day Ryu always looked meaner on the Sega version.
Genesis/MD fans will swear on their life that the Genesis port looks better than the actual arcade. Despite the fact that it has a shitty 9-bit RGB. They'll do any sort of mental gymnastics to make there beloved Genesis/MD look superior. I've seen people on the SSF2 SNES vs Genesis comparison actually say that the Genesis version looks better because of the colors. The funny thing is when you compare the SNES to the Arcade you notice just how much closer it is in color to the arcade than the Genesis/MD. Not to mention that the SNES has a beefier 15-bit RGB.The Genesis version looks like it was colored by someone with a very limited pallette (and it essentially was) and it looks basic and blown out in some parts. Also the Genesis/MD is missing a lot of background animations as well. It's a good port, but definitely not superior to the arcade (lol) or the SNES version.
the genesis has a bigger cart than the SNES one, and the SNES has a lot of frames removed, that's not the case for the genesis version.
Played the shit out of the Genesis version.
Sempre me pergunto,: como ficaria uma versão SF para o Nintendo 64?
Tangram soltando Hadouken;
Like the Arcade-Original!
Claro que com perdas em relação ao Megão
to me the genesis version is a a bit of a step down in some areas compaired to special champion edition . the music was awful as special was pretty damn close . the backgrounds didn't look so great either . but the game play still was great with great controls . it was far from bad , but far from good port .
Exactly my thoughts! Champion Edition music was so much nicer!
I believe that step down in music it is related due memory restrictions.
@@MarcoPolo82
(This isn't fair) We now know memory constraints had nothing to do with the areas this port stumbled in. The developers rushed this version of SF out just like they did with Championship Edition but how do I know this? An indy developer fixed both Street Fighter ports on the Genesis and my God is it a thing of beauty. The music is cleaned up considerably and the voices are now arcade perfect, no joke. They even fixed the color making it by far the best 16-bit home port of SF. The ROM can be played on a bone stock Sega Genesis right now. ;)
The Mega Cart, with issues in his music/sound, still is a good port compared to Arcade.
On SNES it's a tick better!
Caralho.... A versão de Mega é um milagre... Como eles conseguiram fazer com que um jogo da placa CPS2 rodasse no hardware do Mega? O que eles cortaram não compromete em nada a qualidade final do jogo...
Sinto dizer, Yoda... Vc é um mestre jedi, e talz... Mas esse jogo foi o primeiro da placa CPS2... Os dois que saíram depois foram X-MEN: CHILDREN OF THE ATOM e DARKSTALKERS...
@@NegoClau esses jogos rodariam todos facilmente no Megão
Apesar de ser um jogo de CPS2, os SSF são pouca coisa melhor que as versões de CPS1. Basicamente a paleta de cor é levemente melhor e musicalmente melhorou muito.
CPS2 entregou jogos muito mais impressionantes depois.
Sim@@burnermanx
The Vs music theme is based on the arranged one from the World Warrior and Turbo version for SNES.
Essa Versão do Mega Drive ficou foi Boa, mesmo com as perdas Obvias Boa Comparação.
MD wins
£50 compared to £1500 for the arcade
Lol arcade:coins, coins, coins...
1800 pounds for CPS2 SSF2 at the time.
Sound on the megs drive was awful on this game.
Sobreo Street concordo contigo em relação a perda de quadros em uma possível versão do 64 mas acho que tirando que não teria loading e o som que seria pior creio que a perda de quadros seria semelhante a da versão saturno
Ah the cheese grater that was Genesis's sound system. There's a few cool sounds and tunes on the Genesis, but it's not when it was trying to emulate someone else's pre made tunes.
Actually it was a great sound system it was just devs didn't want to spend extra time on it and just often used the easiest sound core to program for even if it sounded terrible.
Esses videos mais antigos merecem um remake. Para pegar melhor o framerate correto dos jogos.
mega drive guerreiro demais.
Never realized how accurate the Ryu animation was in the genesis to the arcade while the snes was missing a lot of frames. The thing with this port though was how shitty the music and SFX were heavily degraded when the console is much capable.
Megadrive: 40megs, SNES: 32megs - the intro is the only aspect, where the Megadrive-port is better imo
The timer seems a little fast on the Genesis.
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I find it nuts that people even try to dispute this. The genesis version is significantly better in every way that mattered.
I mean compared to the snes
AWESOME MD! Time to hook up the JAMMADRIVE again!! Excellent Sega!!
O contraste do Megão é superior!
Apesar das limitações, o Mega até que foi fiel. Não é lindo, mas pelo menos segue ao jogo, ao contrário dos ports do MK I e II, que não tinham nada a ver com o arcade.
Marvel vs Capcom! PS1 x Dreamcast!
Pow mais aí seria um Estupro e estupro é Crime...
Giovanni Marcelo da silva Verdade...kkkkk, mas eu gostaria de ver ele lado-a-lado, e tambem o Darkstalkers 3 (PS1 x Sega Saturn).
Cheap-ass Bison moves 🤜🔥⚡️
Hit like punch and kick , fall in ground , sound track is more near the arcard in Sega Genesis that Snes , the game have a low quality in voices , but this can by explain with a complet game , Sega port nothing was riped out like narrator missing voices in Nintendo
Given the huge hardware differences, it's a great port. But I can't stand the Genesis' ugly SFX/music, that's why I prefer the SNES version. I know there are color and sound improvement hacks out there, but they sound just slightly better. Whatever, SF2 games never get old or boring!
Eu me lembro que em algumas revistas da época eles listavam Darkstalkers como um título de lançamento do 64 esse com certeza sem chance pois os quadros são imensos tanto que converteram pro ps1 e ficou muito zoado perto da segunda versão lançada pro saturno
Arcade wins
Genesis very good ports
Sounds Music better on Arcade
Arcade!!!!
Wow....you know so much fuss was made back when the 4th generation ports of SSFII came out about them not being close to the arcade. I even felt that way but I didn't care because Super Street Fighter was in my home. After watching them side-by-side I think the 16-bit consoles did a damn fine job.
However, it's even better now that an indy developer has completely fixed both versions of Street Fighter for the Genesis. Now it's so close to the arcade it is scary. I wonder, did Capcom purposefully nerf the Sega Genesis version so it wouldn't blow past the Snes port? It really seems that way too me as when the Genesis has the proper sound codecs and the right color implementation it's not even close. The Snes port becomes inferior in every way conceivable. The fixed Genesis port sounds almost arcade perfect, it already featured better frames of animation, it has all voices that are arcade perfect, all backgrounds found in the arcade fully animated, and the new colors just pop off the screen like a fireworks display.
Genesis always got an A for effort but holy hell the shading on genesis ports in general looked terrible
La versión de MD es muy parecida a la de arcade. Esta es una de las mejores conversiones que vi.
Worse graphics but better animation and more voices than SNES + the music doens't reboot between each rounds unlike SNES + one exclusive game mode. Good port overall even though it could have been tweaked in a few aspects.
Thats because the game had an extra megabyte of storage compared to the snes game
The opening has extra animation on Genesis. The game itself -- whether character sprites or background animation -- is either as animated on SNES or, in the case of those backgrounds, richer, more detailed and, yes, more animated.
This can be seen in Dee Jay's, Blanka's and Ryu's stages, as just a few examples.
pessoal insistem em dizer q mega e melhor q snes em resoluções. então pq na epoca tudo mundo comprava snes? mega era bom mas o snes era superior. Eu admito isso
mas o snes não tinha só beleza. os jogos também eram bons
Tem jogos de mega q São melhores. mas a galera diz mega e melhor. eu respeito. gosto da sega ela se virava com o monopólio da Nintendo
Poeta Denil A Nintendo ferrou a sega na epoca do Nintendinho
unica coisa que no mega era melhor era o processador de resto perdia em tudo pro SNES, mas os fanáticos pela SEGA são uns "CEGOS" e insistem em falar que os jogos no MEGA ficam melhores kkkk
Mas o pessoal comprar mais SNES do que o Mega não tem absolutamente nada a ver com a resolução. E de fato, o Mega é superior nisso. O Main CPU também é superior, assim com o VDP que consegue acessar dados da RAM muito mais rápido que o SNES (Blast Processing).
Mas sobre um ser melhor que o outro, depende. Depende muito do tipo de jogo. O Mega sempre foi melhor em jogos mais rápidos de plataforma e scrolling shooters. O SNES é um console muito melhor quando se trata de JRPGS. Não adianta nada ter uma maior paleta de cores quando o framerate vai lá embaixo se muita coisa aparecer ao mesmo tempo. Um ótimo exemplo disso é o Super R-Type.
arcade will always be better then super Nintendo or the sega
No shit🚫💩 Captain Obvious ‼
faz do castlevania do pc engine
This seems like MD vs Arcade not just Genesis. But Arcade version of anything always wins. That being said I didn't watch the entire video.
muito boa a conversão para o mega eu acho que a diferença ficou no tamanho dos personagens e deve ter perdido alguns quadros de animação mais ficou perfeito
O som em si, é sofrível no mega, infelizmente:/
Que isso hein, praticamente iguais :o
The Arcade version are way better.
Amazing observation! sigh.
It is a unfair comparation.
But does the arcade have sega blast processing?
This is not a comparison of which version is better. This is just a comparison if the Genesis version is a good port or not.
@@Lightblue2222 You know that's bullshit. Blast processing is bs
Os cara escrevendo que o mega conseguiria rodar s. alfha 2 melhor que o snes ,kk mano gosto do mega tbm, mas dizer que o mega era superior ao snes kkk só se for muito fã mesmo. kk uma prova que o mega é bem inferior ao snes é o Donkie kong 99 hack 😂😂😂😂
Agnaldo Silva na verdade poderia hipoteticamente sim rodar no mega drive com algum acessório como o 32x ou o sega cd
E também como você já disse é uma hack e não um jogo oficial
eu joguei o alfha 2 no snes e uma merda muito travado e muito lento uma bosta ta falado e se tevece lançado pro mega seria uma merda tambem
O Donkey Kong é um hack, alguém fez um port nas coxas. Sem cabimento esse seu argumento.
Eu acho que rodaria sim, de boa. E mais veloz e sem travamento. Uma versão não foi feita pro mega por que era fim de geração, o SNES tava em "alta" e a Capcom tava afim de lucrar mais uns trocados.
Mega drive detona o snes...
Super Nintendo was better.......but not better then the arcade of course. In liquor terms The arcade was Hennessey SNES and MD was E&J LOL
the megadrive hardware wise is nearer to the CPS2 than the SNES is. And the genesis mostly use the arcade source code with a bit of recoding.
The real letdown was the sound. SSF2 on Genesis features some real terrible quality music (and SFX, no surprise there). But you can't fault the developers for it. Genesis sound chip simply couldn't process higher quality sound output (you could store higher quality samples on the cart for sure, but you couldn't play them at that precision).
Yet Championship Edition had great music on the Mega Drive.
the problem is tied to the sound driver. Developers are fully at fault. With the hacked version that use a good sound driver, music and sfx are way much better !
Esse port do mega drive ficou fiel ao arcade
The Arcade Aka CPS2 version is way superior in my opinion. So is the SNES version as well.
John Jameson Well that's true.
of course. You can't compare a 1800 pounds arcade hardware with a shitty 50 pounds SNES hardware. Let's be serious. And the Genesis hardware has more in common with the arcade than the SNES.
*Super Nintendo wins with best controller in the world back then and CD quality sound back then!* ⭐️
Arcade
So 🤔 consoles are harder but smaller though darker colors and bad music.
Although the MD version puts out pretty damn good if you want a true arcade perfect port get the street fighter collection on the Japanese Sega Dreamcast it had the original CPS2 arcade version of street fighter 2 the new challengers
arcade vs sega genesis? you are a insane, and sega fanboy...
Show a versão do Mega Drive
The only 40 Mb cartridge on 16-bit!
Aren't MK3 and UMK3 bigger? Also SNES has 40 and 48 meg carts with Tales of Phantasia and a few others. And then there are the post-official games such as Pier Solar and its 68 meg or the forthcoming Paprium and its 80 meg.
+Yohko M. - It is in fighting games, near of neo geo style. SNES had some games with more storage, but these were japanese rpg, very slow games. In fighting games, SNES did not surpass 32Mb and already these had problems.
Apparently MK3 and UMK3 even on SNES are also bigger, at least the rom sizes are. btw Star Ocean is 48.
+John Jameson
Ha! I already implied a lie in another video, when someone claimed that Street Fighter II SCE is bigger cart on Genesis than SNES while actually Genesis rom size is smaller. I don't know how it works though between cart size (meg) and rom size but if it's a lie, then next level Crapcom towards Sega (in addition to others bullshit such as Mega Man the Wily Wars).
+Don't do it
While in rom size terms SSF2 genesis = 2,74 Mo while MK3 SNES = 3,35 Mo.
Tiny characters and dull colors on the Genesis.
still better than the SNES version ahahah.
Graphics were a good effort ... It was the sound that let the Megadrive down badly even to the SNES let alone the arcade. It sounded tinny and awful. And it sucked that you had to buy a 6 button controller to play it properly as the original only had three buttons. 2 if you wanted multiplayer.
Megão mesmo boicotado pela Capcom, muito superior!
Better Graphics and Sound: Arcade
Better Color pallete: Sega
Yo por arcade o tliin
Genesis version is garbage. Especially the sound. The graphics are a little nicer than the SNES version, but the SNES does everything other than the graphics right.
SNES version had frames removed, not the genesis (more animation frames, more background detail, etc). After all the genesis program surely share a good chunk of the arcade program.
First - Chupa Giovani = D
estou assistindo ainda XD
Le versión arcade siempre será la mejor, no hay ninguna adaptación que pueda llegar a lo que el arcade genera
MD more fiel to arcade
Street Fighter 2 new challengers for Sega is a Perfect port.
LoL... NO
It's a good port not a perfect one!
Are you high?
it isn't
It's a shitty port with horrible sound.
Genesis Does ! What Arcadon't!😂
Not really, the arcade game SQUASHES the bad sounding MD version.
No
Arcade and snes stomp the genesis version!
No.
This is my opinion ok? Don't judge it.
@@louiskeiflin5858 if you don't want someone to respond then don't post a comment.
No !
The gameplay is a way better on genesis !
@@louiskeiflin5858 are you missing that the genesis and the arcade have more in common than the SNES with the arcade ? Capcom had to reprogram SSF2 for SNES, while they used the arcade program with recoded part on the genesis. you see the difference ?
Arcade é melhor do que qualquer console
Mega Drive, como siempre, malísima y la música pésima..
Colors, voices and music are terrible. Decent port though.
Genesis sound.....iugh
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