Therapist Reacts to Ginny and Georgia with Bob Bordone
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- Are you trying your best but failing? Are you doing more harm than good? Watch this video as Jono and mediator expert Bob Bordone deep dive into Ginny and Georgia, what went right and what went wrong in the parenting/child dynamic.
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00:00 Ginny and Georgia
01:00 Bob Bordone
02:15 Ginny and Georgia clip
03:30 Emotional refractory period
06:19 Don’t make it about you
09:50 Negotiation is the art of influencing
11:00 Be in the moment
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Georgia is a flawed, damaged character. She does some sketchy things, criminal things, dangerous things, and when you look at her past, her childhood, you understand why she is the way she is, but what I find is her biggest redeeming quality is how much she loves her kids. There is nothing, absolutely nothing she won't do for her kid's, to keep her kids safe, especially because no one protected her. She reacts rather extremely towards threats to her kids because of her unhealed, festertering trauma.
Yeah she loves her kids but she constantly makes the wrong decisions for them and actively puts them in situations she later has to protect them from. If she'd just settle down in one place, get therapy and a normal, stable job and let her kids actually have a secure home she'd be expressing that love a lot more healthily.
@@Jemini4228 Is that not what she's trying to do in this season? She's trying to get away from all that. Yes she killed her friends husband but she saw it as humane... Her friend just told her she wished it would end and so Georgia ended it... On her eyes she is doing what she thinks is best not right... Because of what she has been through... No one is excusing her actions but they understand why she is the way she is and can see the humanity in that... Some people are just open-minded.
@@Jemini4228 while I can agree with your sentiment, for damaged people, such as Georgia, it is easier said than done. She is trying, and succeeding more than her mother and sister in ways. Sure, she isn't perfect and her actions or mistakes do have consequences...but her intent where her kids are concerned do come from a genuine place. Damaged people can, unfortunately, cause damage to the people that they love and trying to protect but that doesn't diminish their ability to love nor their desire to do good or protect the object of their love, they just don't have the healthy tools to do it nor the confidence to seek the help that they need. The sad fact is that often, those who need help the most are unlikely to get it.
She must project out that what she did not receive herself! She can use it as an opportunity to feed her own fear or healing it depends which lense she views it through!
She made credit cards in her kids names, f-up their credit score. How is that doing everything for her kids?
Thanks for covering Ginny and Georgia. I really enjoyed the show. Just to give some context, Ginny's dad isn't dead, in fact he was the one who convinced Ginny to go to therapy once he found out about her self-harming. The relationship between Georgia and Ginny's dad is complicated because they still seem to have feelings for each other but Georgia is trying to move on. I'd love for you to explore the dynamics between Ginny and her boyfriend.
oh yeah that relationship is great for analysis aswell! Love the suggestion.
I just finished season one, and when he said that dad was dead my mind immediately went to “OMG season two spoiler noooo!” But in glad to hear that he still alive 😂
While I like this show, I'm usually more invested in Georgia's storyline than in the teens' hijinks. She would walk through fire for her children, but this often takes more sinister meanings.
My mom saying similar words to Georgia… “give that pain to me, I can deal with it” Got me through the darkest time of my life. Those words stay with me always, giving me hope even when my brain says there’s no light. Now I’m an adult and love myself but at first those words made me realize my existence was worth it and I couldn’t do that to those that loved me so much.
wow that's so powerful.
I wish I had a safe enough relationship with my mom to do that😢 she tells me things like this sort of but then she gets manipulative later down the line cause she has a binge drinking problem.
@@Daydreamerr13 I’m so sorry you are going through this. I’ve seen how uncontrolled drinking can make a person behave. If possible try to stay away from that situation, I can’t judge but I will say if you are feeling down and they’re being manipulative, ITS NOT YOU, they need to fix it.
OMG Jono PLEASE react to more Ginny and Georgia. There is so much mental health material to go over honestly.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES THANK YOU.
Georgia is a very protective mother. She would go to very far lengths for her kids and she’s proven that. Although her methods may seem very.. illegal.. but Georgia has always lived on survival mode. So when she says “I can handle it” she’s not bluffing. She genuinely can handle it.
In one of the episodes in S2, Ginny explains to a therapist “ when a bully pushes you off your bike you want your mom to hold you and tell you it’ll be OK. You don’t want your mom to takeoff the screws of the bullies bike and have him crash himself.” don’t quote me, but that’s verbatim what she said. And that explains a lot about Georgia and that explains a lot what Ginny wants from Georgia and as a parent who struggled with poverty, sexual assault teen pregnancy, You can understand why Georgia doesn’t really have that quality to console the way most moms do. Georgia is very protective because she wasn’t protected.
She was sexually abused by her mother’s boyfriend . She was abused by a man twice her age after she gave birth, she was abused again by the father of her second child . Her husband years later, harassed her daughter. And in all of those instances she “took care of them.” to protect Ginny. I honestly found Georgia’s vulnerability with her daughter very progressive for her because Georgia like I’ve said before is protective. she will do anything for her kids if someone hurts them. but when she sees that the person that’s hurting her kid is herself Georgia kind of doesn’t know what to do because again she’s very used to taking care of the things that’s hurting her kids. So seeing Georgia immediately going to Mom mode the way that Ginny has always wanted, It’s very very heartwarming to see.
There is an unreal amount of complex trauma all up in this show. I think both Ginny and Georgia exhibit disorganized attachment and you really see it in these moments of conflict and how they each relate to others in their lives. Would be interesting to hear a family systems approach if these 2 came into therapy
It’s not a horrible show. It gets compared to Gilmore Girls but it's way different. The comparisons start and end at the mom having a her daughter as a teenager. There's a lot to unpack in this show.
maybe you guys could talk about the Ginny & Georgia scene where Marcus Baker talks about depression. Best description I've heard in a tv series of what depression is like.
Honestly, this show is so great. From a family therapy standpoint, you will love watching and analyzing it. I binged it so fast.
Hey, just wanted to clarify some things! TW: mentions of sexual harassment, murder, exploitation and child endangerment
Ginny's dad is not dead; he was an absent father most of Ginny's childhood but during the show he moves to be closer to Ginny so he can be more involved in her life. Georgia killed her ex-husband, Kenny, after witnessing him sexually harassing Ginny, and Ginny recently learned about it (that's what the Kenny comment was about). Georgia also killed her other ex-husband, who she married as a teenager, because he was coercive and forced her to stay in their apartment for three days. He was a generally creepy guy and she only married him so she could get Ginny back (Ginny was a baby at the time and had been placed in foster care after Georgia took the fall for an illegal gambling ring her boyfriend/boss (same guy she married) was running).
You could do a whole series on clips from this show. There’s a lot to unpack.
yess especially season 2 from beginning to end it was full of so much that’s like perfect for the channel
Actually in the first season of this Show, I really was questioning if Georga was soziopathic. I really would love you to cover some scenes from the first and second season to analyze that. It is true, she does some sinister stuff, which can be explained by her background, but also leads us to the way we are. Also sociopathy. But it shines through that she really loves her kids. But I really would be greatful for your opinion on that Jonno. :)
This show is a really good one to do some more commentary on! It's so beautiful and it shows so many complex characters and trauma and family dynamics. I just finished watching it for the second time and I cried so much watching it
I really hope that you react to more of this series. There's so much to talk about and unpack in this show. Especially with the dynamic between Ginny and Georgia and with Georgia and Ginny as individual characters. Also, her dad isn't dead. He's distant, borderline absent but he appears as a recurring character
People online hate Ginny for having real emotions and her behavior but always justify Georgia’s behavior .
Yeah, I hate that they have so much empathy towards Georgia but they want to hate Ginny no matter what.
@@anja200 exactly ! I hate it so much and I might be wrong about this but I do think it’s because Georgia is beautiful so her unfavorable personality gets forgotten. Just something I have noticed.
@@MaryKat2 people tend to compare their experiences, and be like „Georgia had it worse” and completely ignore Ginny’s problems. Yes, Georgia loves her children very much but it doesn’t justify her immature behavior and all the wrong things she did. It’s not a surprise that all of that affected Ginny and she is so mad at her. People who experienced a similar thing know, that you can be mad at your parents for what they did but at the same time feel guilty about it and still love them.
her father Zion is not passed away. he is involved in Ginny’s life
Not really. All thanks( or no thanks) to georgia
Georgia left zion and made ginny grew up without à father.
I'm gonna comment this from the pov of a child who has parents with a lot of unhealed trauma (admittedly, they don't try to get better), the scene of Georgia forcing Ginny down her bed and making her show her scars killed any sympathy I had for Georgia. It left me shaking and scared in a way I didn't ever want to feel again.
I was hospitalised for SH and ending attempts. and I remember having to strip naked in front of strangers to prove I don't have anything on me that I could harm myself with. It left me terrified and feeling violated. Every day I had to go through these searches that, surely must've seemed rational from an outside perspective. But inside, all I could think about was how I didn't want their eyes on my body. How humiliated it felt what I wasn't willing to show and knowing I had no say in it. They were able to do with me as they pleased just as Georgia did when she did this.
Ginny screaming "Stop" feels like me in those moments when everyone had more authority over my body than myself
Yay, been waiting for you to do this show 😊
I've been watching TH-cam clips of this show over the past few days, so the timing is funny!
I found this show to be very interesting in terms of understanding human behavior, how each person’s past affects their current and possible future behavior and habits, and of course there’s a lot of therapy in this show which may be interesting for those in the field. I wasn’t a big fan of the high school drama but Georgia is one of the most interesting, multilayered characters I have seen in a show/movie.
Please do the whole show! It’s so good! 😭😭😭
I love your videos! I’d love to see a Big Little Lies analysis if you haven’t done one - I’ve always been unsure of the depiction of therapy in that show and it’d be great to hear your insight
Both of these actresses are phenomenal at portraying those complex emotions
when i first started this show it was to snark watch it because i had seen it in so many cringe compilations online and clips of really clunky “gen z” dialogue. but it was nothing like i expected and the character writing is actually very very interesting (if you can get past the admittedly cringe dialogue that’s al over season one)
this show is amazingg
Can you do Never Have I Ever pleaseeeeeee???? S3E9 specificially when Nalini tells Devi "you are never too much and always enough"? It is such a great line Devi's feeling is so relatable...i need help processing that line and believing for myself tbh
I would be very interested in your thoughts on Marcus, his relationship with Ginny and especially the portrayal of his depression.
I would love to see you react to This is Us ! The scene of Jack’s death for example, and then how Mandy Moore’s character deals with it !
Please make a video about the TV show Fringe.
I would love to do something like this as I am a therapist.. I would love advice on how to get started or how to protect myself from people finding out where I live or harassment etc.. Just because the internet scares me but I feel like I would have a lot to offer by doing something like this also.
I started to watch this show a while ago with the same thought that it was light and fluffy and it was instead really triggering for me. Never got to finish it
Please make a video about the TV show Grimm.
Please make a video about the anime Mushoku Sensei.
I want you to react to when the daughter and when Paul react to Georgia’s crimes
Pleaaase resct to more parts of jenny and georgiaa I love it and there are so many scenes you could react to!!
Woah!! If my mum had reacted like that when she found out about my burns, I'd probably not confide in her about anything any time soon ... 😮 But thanks for taking on the subject of self-harm. It's good for those around to see how *not* to behave. Please make a video that's more directed to *us* too. What I would like to hear most of all is your persepective - WHY is this so frowned upon by therpists/doctors? If it helps us to regain control and not commit suicide, I don't understand why it's seen as so wrong 🤔
Have you done United States of Tara? Sooooo much mental health and the first time I saw DID on tv
Supernatural would be a good show to therapize
Can't stand Georgia in this show. Never really commiting to building stability amd roots for her kids, flitting from one idea and place to another, subjecting Ginny to parentification and getting pissed off at her for self harming.
Did Bob persuade you to do these episodes with him? :D
You really should watch the show. You would have a lot of subjects to make videos of from it
Please make a romcom movie that makes sense in terms of healthy love.
This isn't a romcom but if you are interested in a video on healthy love, on Jonathan's other channel Cinema Therapy they just dropped a video called "6 Reasons Hiccup and Astrid are Couple Goals"
Its all about healthy couple dynamics and what Hiccup and Astrid do right in their relationship.
PLEASEEEE IM BEGGING DO TRACY FREELAND FROM THE MOVIE THIRTEEN
Hello, today I just watched the most toxic Bollywood movie called "animal" it has so much for you to analyse i would really appreciate if you reacted to
I love this show. I held out for the longest time because it sounded like a Gilmore Girls rip off, but the tone is quite different. I also think Georgia is a sociopath.
The father has not passed away, his name is Zion
It’s not a horrible show. It gets a lot of flack and I do see it getting by a lot on aesthetics but there are entertaining aspects of it. It’s no Gilmore Girls. Lol.
I think that's why I disliked it. I expected a present day Gilmore Girls and it is definitely not that.
Just so you know the father isn’t dead, the parents are just not together
Omigosh, this makes me so mad to see people smash and grab so cavalierly. Windows are expensive to replace! 😫
Please keep glitter bomb farting on these ne’er do wells. 💚🤣
The father didn’t pass they just split up
He was very absent tought.
You need to watch degrassi